June 4, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason & Mike talk about the Knicks firing Tom Thibodeau. Freddie Freeman walks it off for the Dodgers in extras on the Mets. We got two BIG stories out of the NFL. And Seattle Seahawks head coach Mike Macdonald reiterates that Sam Darnold is their starting quarterback!
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Hello, Welcome inside final hour tonight The Jason Smith Show
with My babe, Miss Harmon, Live from the.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
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Speaker 1 (00:45):
Mets and the Dodgers tied at five apiece in the
bottom of the nine after Max Muncy, Yes, who is
bookending tonight's game with an incredible performance.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Big home running the first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And then a home run to lead off the ninth
inning here against Brasi Man. So it's five five, Dodger's
still batting two out bottom of the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You can take that one out of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that was that was a note. That was a
no doubter. Or that's one of those when I get cheated.
That was one of those when he hit it, it was, well,
there you go, it's five to five.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You know this is uh that home run though, is
is meaningful on a whole other level, right obviously, ty
game bottom nine blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh yeah, it screws the Mets.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Well.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Clayton Kershaw came into the game for his career eleven
and zer with an ERA of two and eighteen career
appearances against the Mets. He was on the on the
hook for the loss, and he's no longer. Perfection remains
on Kershaw.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You don't want to lose to the Mets.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Uh, dude, You've lost three out of four to us
so far.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, just so you know, as the guy who counts
banners on June third.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes I do, dude, you kidd The Mets have already
have a Bobblehead Night for winning the first three.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Out of four from the Dodgers this year.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's the fourth je You go back to watching reruns
of Halliburton's game one shot.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
It's happened.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
There never gonna see it. I saw that as I
rewatched Monday Night Raw. They had it and they were
selling his shirt in the w W E shop of
the joke.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Jason, just say you wanted to hear it again.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I wasn't Frost, But why don't you go back to
watching highlights of the Lakers in the second round of
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Oh no, I know, I know you didn't. That's why
I thought we did for a secon.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We totally thought we made the Sega round.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Dude, You're so getting Doc Rivers next year.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's so happening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You just heard me.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
The Knicks are gonna get what am I in?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You didn't get on your swing bike.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Now, Hey, one of those bikes went for over one
hundred grand out of prop auction.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I didn't mean the real one is so uh Meds
and Dodgers tied five apiece as the Dodgers back in
the bottom of the I think we'll have more of
this game coming up. But look, the big story of
the day the Knicks decided to fire Tom Thibodeaux after
their best run in twenty five years to make it
to the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, let's fire our head coach.
(03:15):
And look, we've talked a lot about this tonight, and
there's a lot of different angles on it that we've
gone through. You know, we have the player angle on it,
and the Brunson angle and the what's next for the players.
But Timms gets fired, and we told you last week,
I'm not going to be surprised if what happens because
sometimes and I wasn't surprised today, because sometimes losses are
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so bad that you need a fresh start. You can't
come back from them. And the Knicks lost game one
of this round to the Pacers. Teams were fourteen hundred
and fourteen wins and no losses in NBA history, with
a nine point lead and fifty seconds left to go
(04:00):
up until Game one, where somehow the Knicks found a
way to lose. And I guarantee it, it's even worse
because this only goes back to nineteen ninety five. Right
before nineteen ninety five, that were keeping stats. But I
got news for you. Before nineteen ninety five, nobody made
threes like they do now in the NBA. Right, you
go back and watch the final couple minutes of a
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finals game from like the late nineties minutes, if someone's
up four with twenty five seconds left, like the game's over.
We're up four with twenty even it's over. We're not
gonna lose it. Now it's for twenty five seconds. It's
a toss up. So you go back when teams didn't
make threes as much. I guarantee you nobody blew a
nine point lead with fifty seconds left. And then you
want to get back to the eighties, Hey guess what
that was? No three pointers? So I guarantee you since
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the peach baskets, we had a hole torn in the
bottom so the ball could drop all the way through.
Nobody in NBA history had blown a lead like that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Chooks did. It was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's so all time awful for the Knicks. It's so
all time awful for the franchise. Think about the cloud
that's been going.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Up over them.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They lose that game, they lose the series. They thought
they were going to the finals. Forget it. Man, this
is so bad that you know there's some sort of outcome.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
There needs to be some sort.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Of of of of toll paid for this loss.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And I told you the two guys that were gonna
play it because I said, hey, this is so bad.
Watch what happens if they lose this series. The two
guys that are gonna be on the hook are TIBs
and Karl Anthony Towns. Right, watch out, don't be surprised
if TIBs gets fired, Oh, Tim Ducketty friede fire, TIBs
gets fired, because if you bring him back, this is
not a loss where you can simply say, all right,
(05:38):
it happened, we blew a lead, we shargar shoulder, bring
the same same guys back.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That's not gonna work. Obviously it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It wasn't gonna work because the Nick showed that all
the warts they had in the Eastern Conference Finals were
opened up by the Pacers and bringing TIBs back, this game,
this series hangs over the Knicks with tip just just
Tibbs's presence. It hangs over the Knicks, It hangs over
the fan base, it hangs over Nick's nation, hangs over
the players.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
They need a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And that's why when it happened today, I was not
shocked because I know the Knicks. Okay, hey, how much
of it is Tibbs's fault, But it doesn't matter because
if Tibbs comes back, this is the loss that defines them,
and it's gonna be an all time loss anyway, right,
But you want to be able to move past it
while you have this group of players potentially win a
championship and then it's just one of those, you know,
(06:27):
bad memories, but you have the title from whatever year
coming up the next couple of years.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Not all losses are created equal. And this game won
and then.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Subsequent finals loss was so incredibly bad they had no choice.
They had no choice but to start over because they
need that fresh start for next year.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And that's why Tim's got fired.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of different parts
to it. I mean, you were talking about blame Pi.
You know, how much his roster construction, how much is
buy in, how much his tired legs. We talked with
Mark Stein last ou or remember that during the regular season,
one of the big notes about the Nicks, even in
the rise to the number three seed in the East,
(07:06):
was the fact that they couldn't beat anybody good triple
underscore that because generally, what are the teams that you're
playing in the playoffs. They're at least semi competent with
a little bit of luck that will push him past.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
The finish line.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Right as we talk about each and every year, you
don't have to love the teams that are playing in
the conference finals or the finals, but clearly they were
able to navigate.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
A bunch of potholes along the way.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
And for Thibadeau, the other part I saw starting to
circle about. I was like, well, you just signed him
to an extension. It goes back to the guy who's
currently the favorite to replace him, which is something that
Leon Rose and our man James do. One need to
remind yourself if you've decided that the guy is done,
the dollar amount that you're beholden to him doesn't matter anymore.
(07:54):
Right for the playoff run in Denver, they decided we're
done with the coach and the GM see you, We'll
do make our best run we can with the guys
that are here. Congratulations, Adamman now has the job and
he moves forward with the Knicks. The fact that Tibbodeau
signed the extension that was in the moment, well, guess what,
we don't we live in a different world than we
(08:15):
did thirty seconds ago.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I'm telling you it was I can get Draft Day
and I got to. So that's what we're at.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
It's like you're looking at it going forward, going is
this tenable? Is this a situation where this is the
floor of what we can achieve? And if that's If
that's the case, then Tips stays. If not, then you say, hey,
thank you, congratulations, here's a novelty check.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
We'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Now things I see, things change so much after that
first game. It was okay, and then they lose. If
they won the series, obviously it's different, but that one
game was just it was just so bad, Like everything
turned anti TIBs and anti Carl Anthony Townsend, anti everything
after that first game. And it's New York and people
want blood and people, hey, there's got to be somebody's
(09:01):
got to pay for that. This is an all time
worst defeat in NBA history. Somebody's got to pay. And
Tips paid. You know why, because Tim's had a bad playoff, right.
I mean, go back to the go back to the
first round against Detroit where he didn't have Jalen Brunton
on the court for the final time for.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Minute to get him back on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's like, dude, he's your best player, he's a top
five NBA player. I get that, oh the flow of
the game, but you gotta get him back on the court.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Man, what are you doing so automatically? That was a
big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But then they beat the Celtics and everything is good
and and okay, they won, and it was it was shocking.
And they won the first two games, it was okay,
but that one loss changed everything, right, And it's it's
kind of like this. Usually we see that with players.
You know, when when a team blows a big lead
in in Major League Baseball and they you know, they
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don't make the playoffs. They blow a division lead, or
in the NFL, they blow a division lead and they
wind up not being able to advance in the playoffs
and things get really bad. You see get fired. Right, Oh,
you presided over this big this big collapse. Right, Okay,
you get that. But normally we see it with players, right,
And I'll go back to just watched Pete Alonzo striking
(10:09):
out in the tenth inning, and now the Mets are
gonna lose. Devin Williams is one of the best relievers
in baseball for the last couple of years right now.
He was hurt a little bit last year, but when
he was healthy, he was great. A fastball change up,
that's his bread and butter.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He's basically unhittable when he was healthy. But what happens
in that first round series against the Mets it's a
two to nothing lead in the ninth inning. All he's
got to do is close out this game. Brewers are
onto the nlds and everything is great. Instead, what happens
Pete Alonso. It's the biggest home run of the season.
In the ninth inningyive the Mets a three to two lead.
They score four runs in that inning and the Brewers lose,
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and the Mets go on and the Brewers go home.
That was a really bad loss. And sometimes you can't
have a guy come back. And Devin Williams, if he
came back to the Brewers, that loss was gonna hang
over him. It's what all the fans are gonna think
every time he comes out. It's what's gonna go through
his head. It's what we go through his teammates heads.
He blew that game. You're not gonna get past it.
(11:05):
So they had to move on. So boom.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Now he's the Yankee.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Right, some loss is just really difficult to get over.
And this is just so incredibly bad that Okay, if
the head coach is here, who already had a bad
enough postseason, that's gonna be the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Obviously, we can't change out all the players, But the
coach is the first domino to go because this was
something that we can't come back and rerun the same
thing over again because not only did he have a
bad playoff, but when you compound it with this loss
to the Pacers in Game one, that the fan base
and the team is never gonna get over. Yeah, it's
not surprising that Tibbs is gone as a head coach.
(11:41):
I don't think the Knicks are that surprised. I don't
think the Knicks players are that surprised. I think it
surprised a lot of fans. Look, we've been talking about
this for the last couple of weeks. Hey, Tibbs and
Karl Anthony Towns, these are the guys could go from
the Knicks, and today it was Tibbs's turn.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
And once again, you know, not only did you get
out coach, you got a coach by the same guy.
And Carlisle's not going where He's just gond be waving
at you when it's all said none, because Tibbineau's if
he were to have stayed, you know, no, there's no
stylistic changes to short rotation, heavy minutes and then occasionally
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break glass in case of emergency and hope it works.
And two of your starters are still going to be
defensive liabilities. Oj O Geanoovi has to basically play the
role of three guys to try to compensate, and it's
just not sustainable against better squads.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So yeah, it's it's a final.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
And now we get into the long laundry list of
the odds, which really are kind of funny, all the
way down to Stephen A.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Smith at sixty to one.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh dude, they're great.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Man again watching the different names trend today, going, oh,
people think Rick Patino's going to be the head coach
of the next Okay, great, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
The first start of the guys that get included that
are still head coaches in the NBA, right, it's like, wait, that.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Guy has a job. Yeah yeah, year.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, Like Atkinson is the second favorite.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
It's like, okay, so now we're getting into trade mode.
Now that's trade carl An trade Karl Anthony Towns for
Kenny Atkins.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Well, I mean he's got one more year before he
gets fired, because I mean all coaches of the year
get fired because Tibbs completes that run. Right, Oh yeah,
but he since twenty eighteen, that wonted Coach of the
Year award.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you know what, no longer with that squad. It's
like winning an Oscar. Like you win an Oscar. Okay,
you're not going to get a big role for another
twenty years, right, Like you won an Oscar. Now people
are second year that you're not going to get big roles.
Just be happy that you won.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Gets get some consistent work.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And then some of those studios that had a movie
that they tested poorly or they didn't want to spend
the money on the marketing for it's like, guess what,
here we go. We've got this like the McConaughey. Uh,
you know horror film from all those years ago. Right,
it's like, hey, you don't look at Matthew McConaughey, you
can watch him or Jennifer Aniston. Now is the big
star of Leprecaun all these years later it's waiting, couldn't
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get released before.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But now I'm a big star and I won an award. Yes,
I've won a Golden Razzie for Leprechaun.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Eh Leprechaun?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
What a series.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome again? Just
think about sometimes losses are so bad.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
You have no choice.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You have no choice but to move on to give
a fresh start, and that's what we saw.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
We have more on this story coming up. What's next.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
We got a couple of big hot takes when it
comes to the Knicks and what's next for them, what
could be next for the rest of the NBA if
you like some of the players on the Knicks roster.
But straight ahead a double barrel of big NFL stories,
including one quarterback derby that we didn't think we were
gonna have but apparently might happen.
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Speaker 5 (16:33):
First Bitch Freeman Lifts One The Other Way Back Ghost Demo.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Still Back, Still Back Here, It is over, Pretty Freeman
Dressing Tommy Edmund, The Dodgers come back and win it
in ten.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So one of the met's gonna hang the banner. We
led through eight.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That play by play on Dodgers TV not nearly representative
of what that play was, right you think, Oh, Freddie
Freeman hit one off the wall. No, Freddy Freean with
one out and runners at first and second, Freddie Freeman
hit a fly ball to the middle of the warning
track in left center field and a left field really
and Brandon Nimmo runs back and he overruns the ball,
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and he turns around and the ball bounces next to
him in the middle of the warning track. It's a
catchable fly ball. It should be two outs and the
game going. Freddie Freeman hit a long fly ball in
the middle of the warning track, and Brandon Nimmo did
his Holly Hollywood and wolfman, where'd he go?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
We went like this?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He went like this. Hollywood said, where'd he go? I said,
where did who go?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
You're a professional out I got a pole quick.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Come on, man, that was the I mean, how do
you make a play like this?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Jason?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Did no understand that you lost?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Because that was that was basically an error, even though
he touched the ball.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
He just.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You know what, you guys, dude, it's a fly ball.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That landed in the warning track and left field. You
have to catch that ball, like, that's a catch. I
don't know what he was doing the mass.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Do we have a better record than you? We beat
you three out of five games? Okay, just stop, okay,
stop stop with that. You're not you're winning.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It's three out of five games, six games? Did we
beat you three out of seven out of eight?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
No, let me ask the whole question, though, m or
Carol Anthony Towns.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh, well, you know that's that's a push. There are
no winners here.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That's one of those things.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
That was just awful.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Ill what's he doing?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's that's completely terrible, man, I don't drifting.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Drifting, Yeah, oh, it's a home run.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, it's a flyout, and Nimo for some reason, over
runs it spins around, spins around, and it still falls
to the side of him. Like, I don't know what
happened on that play. I really can't wait to hear
what he says. I I'm hoping he says I wasn't
paying attention or I didn't see it. I lost it
in the sun, even though it's eleven o'clock at night.
I'm hoping for something, because that that that's not a
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play a professional outfielder makes.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Jason, did you not hear the highlight? This is exactly
how the play unfolded.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Streaming lifts the other way back goes Nemo still back.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Still back. This is over, pretty Freeman.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Tommy Edmond, I don't know where all that other stuff is.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, man, it's little Tommy that scores the runs. So
how does that make a liar?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
No, I'm saying Joe Davis very just forgot about it,
very creatively.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Just didn't say because what the call should have been
was this flyball to left Nemo back middle of the
warning track. He's spinning around, What the hell is he doing?
It lands next to him, and Edmund's gonna score and
the Dodgers are gonna win this. I need a drink?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Are you?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That's what you criticize, using Joe Davis for being respectful,
uh and not unverbally undressing your player even though he
was the opponent.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, well, I'm saying he creatively wanted to make it
seem like Freddy Freeman had this courageous blast off the
wall that one again, and that's not That's exactly what
it was Brandon him let a catchable fly ball that
every outfielder in the majors makes.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Next time.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, no, he hit to the right guy. I'm not
saying he did.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I liked that every outfielder in the majors last time.
Look Dodgers majors.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, every time except for that. Yeah, oh yeah,
Freddy Freeman's here. No, he hit a fly ball that
should have been caught. But you know, Mets, so.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Your old guy Frank the tank had a hot take.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Oh boy, there's not a single redeeming quality with the
blankety blank and Dodgers, not one single likable pier.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Catch and home run all for nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah all that. I thought that he ridded a ball
down and you got nothing out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, Well, then he struck out in the in the
tenth inning with the time let's go ahead run at
second because he swings at the first two pitches that
are eight feet off the plate in the dirt.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I'm like, what is he swinging at?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
But it also does go back to science. If if
you don't get the Lindor home run, you don't win.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Jason, you want to know how bad the Mets are.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
We're not bad. We have.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
The same Yeah, yeah, And here's you know, here's the
other part.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is that so Brazaban who threw thirty five pitches last night,
let's bring him back in the closing night.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He threw thirty five pitches.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Last nights threw like fifteen pitches. Why is he not
he's on. I guess maybe it's three days in a
row for Daz. But he threw thirty five pitches last night,
and once he takes them deep that a ball that
still hasn't landed just passed by my house.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
It just landed again. There's no cheap ones our guy.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
You cla Dodger Frank on Twitter in his best Burman quote,
and TJ Nemo had no chance of finding that fly ball.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
DJ Jason, you want to know how good Tanner Scott
was tonight?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
How good was Tanner Scott tonight?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
He went one, two, three in the tenth on the Mets.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
You just said that like making sure you heard it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's like thirty seconds ago. You know, repetition, Remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Don't keep saying the same joke over and over again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The back page of the post is gonna be Freddie
Freeman on the on the keyboard with sausages tied.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Do you you honestly think the back page of the
post has any time for anything that's not Tibbs?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
You really think it's gonna it's gonna.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Be well, if you'd won, it was gonna be the
redemption of Sodo, It's gonna be Tom to go.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And then in very very tiny print, it's gonna go.
Mets also played late, but that's all. It's gonna tell
you to have.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
A copy of it, and it says big letters, what's up? Doc?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Can't you can't you?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Okay? You won tonight.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Can't you just stop putting out in the atmosphere that
you want the Mets and you want the Mets, that
you want the Knicks to hire Doc Rivers.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Stop doing that. I wouldn't do that to you, though,
I mean no where fy. I mean I wouldn't do
that to one for the team.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, do you take what I don't want that I'm
not We're not gonna talk about basketball at all.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Next.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Are you choosing America or the Knicks?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
America?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Oh, I choose the Knicks. I choose a Nix, I
choose a Nick. Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. You
realize how I just lost in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Come on man.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But we will have more on the on the Knicks
coming up in a few minutes, including two big hot
takes for what is next after the I said takes
not cakes, but hotcakes sound good too. What's next for
the next after firing TIBs? But two big stories out
of the NFL to get to here.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Uh, you know it's becoming.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Relevant now and and and a bunch of people in
the in the blogosphere are talking about what the final
price is going to be for you to get every
NFL game this season.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Right, We'll get to Sam Donald a couple of seconds,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Gonna cost over fifteen hundred bucks for you to watch
every NFL game this year because of all the all
the money you'd have to pay for cable, for the
streaming sites. Fifteen hundred dollars to get every game.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Yeah, you also get a lot of other great quality product.
Oh yeah, you would content along the way, so.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
It's not in a vacuum.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Hey, speaking of great great quality, Department Q on Netflix phenomenal,
it's fantastic. Does start watching Department Q. It's a it's
a mystery, it's an it's fantastic it is absolutely v
part of it. No, No, Department K actually takes place
in Edinburgh, where we went for vacation last so god,
we'll try it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Matthew good is in it, he's the big star.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Kelly McDonald from Boardwalk Empire, Yeah yeah, and Shirley Henderson
moaning Myrtle is in it.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It's it's so good. I can't I can't tell you
how good it is.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But anyway, so fifteen hundred bucks to watch all the
game and I get that that sounds a daunting, but
no one's gonna pay fifteen hundred bucks to get all
the games.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
This is where the NFL is gonna get to a point.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
This is why they need to condense the streaming issues,
because with too many entities having streaming, they're gonna get
to a point where people are gonna say.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
You know what, I don't need this. I don't need
this streaming service. I don't need those games. I don't
need this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm gonna pick and choo because I'm an pick and
choose where I spend my money. And if I get
the NFL package on Sunday, that's it.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Do I need to do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, I'd love to have the games around Christmas time,
but you know whatever, I'll be out shopping. Maybe i'll
watch it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
This is where the NFL is going to get into
trouble with with with streaming. With too many sites people
are and you have to spend all kinds of money,
people are simply gonna say, I'm not gonna do it,
Like no one's gonna not buy the YouTube package, right,
which is still gonna always be the thing and all Sundays,
all the games, but with too many games on too
many different streaming venues, this is going to be a
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two or three year trend where they're gonna say, oh,
wait a minute, people aren't spending enough for this because
it's just too much, Like no one's gonna spend.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
For all of those streaming services.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So this is where the NFL will get to, Okay,
maybe now we want to have a couple of packages
and we're gonna put them together and let streaming services
bid on them, because we want people to say you
can have the YouTube and Netflix and Amazon and that's it, right,
or the or your peacock and Amazon and that's it.
So the NFL is eventually going to get to that
because this is where they'll get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Well, in the end, you're looking at two hundred and
seventy two divvied up, and outside of lunatics like us
and the lunatic fringe, nobody's looking to watch all to
seventy two. Tell me, if tell me all the non
Titans fans that are clamoring to go watch what they're
gonna put out or I don't know, to see duval
(26:51):
You know, wow, I just went to Douvons.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Even though you love Travis Hunter, and you know, we'll
see what happens. But all of that to say, you pick.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
And choose right, you know, the lamentation and handwringing that
goes on about the NBA playoff ratings. Okay, so they
got eight million for the Knick's final loss to the Pacers,
but overall, what do we hear all year? Ah, they
only get one point whatever million per game.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Don't matter. They signed a ten year deal for seventy
six billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Those guys that are getting those funds cycling through right now,
a lot of them will be dead in ten years.
When you talk about ownership groups or whatever they want,
what they get now, what happens down the road doesn't matter.
For fans that want the full experience, then you pay.
Just remember what it was a short time ago where
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you had your one or two national windows. I remember
growing up, I got the Bears and then every week
I got either the Cowboys or the forty nine Ers,
which meant I grew a very irrational hate for both
of those squads.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Forty nine Ers a little bit more because of the playoff.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
But all of that to say that you didn't have
a lot of options, So you watch what you watch
here if you really need all of that, guess what
it's like everything else for only the cup of coffee,
and do what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I mean, you make your choices.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
If you buy the YouTube TV thing, remember that also
comes with the eighty three bucks a month for the
monthly subscription.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The other ones are a pittance in.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Comparison to that for those games, and you find your
value in your prime and whatever else. I'm not trying
to do a sales pitch for them, but all in all,
I would say that you're a ways away before this
becomes a harmful experience to where you're turning away willing customers.
(28:45):
At this point, it's a fractionalization, and all those moneys
have been paid for by the streaming services. So the
NFL is just looking at their coffers right now. What
happens ten fifteen years down the road, you only care
to a point.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Won't be ten fit it'll be it'll be the next
two or three years. It'll be whoa, whoah wallh.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Because again you're gonna see all the streaming services are
going to uh find it that there's not going to
be as many because now they're all not going to
make money and they're going to be some kind of condensing.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
But you know these aren't going to munchling places.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Jason, Yeah, but it's still but you're still paying for it.
I mean, who's paid.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Netflix? Those aren't going away.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, but you're still paying fifteen hundred dollars for how
many four or five different streaming services to get games.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, people aren't gonna do all of that, well,
most of that is.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
If you want to do through the YouTube TV subscription,
you're looking at eighty three a month, So whatever do
it over five or six months, four hundred five hundred
dollars plus the cost of the NFL package, which is
going to be another four whatever.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So I mean there's nine hundred of it right there.
So you just have to decide is that what you
what you're looking to do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's it's a lot of money to ask fans to
say when you're not, when you're over served for football already,
to say, yes, pay this money for it. I'll tell
you it can happen fast. It can happen really fast.
You see how you see how the economics change really
quickly in this country.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
It could be faster.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, I don't need that those games, those games turn
out to not be good games. I don't need that
streaming service because midway through the season, I can tell
you that the Dolphins and the Jaguars Week seven, I
don't need to watch that game.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I don't need that. So I don't need that service.
I mean, NFL fans are smart. You're gonna see and
I like the Major League Baseball is gonna go all Apple,
So you know.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Oh yeah, that's that's gonna be a great decision.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Uh. Time now to find out what's trending in the wide.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
World of sports.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So someone who's been called the Brandon Nimo of Fox
Sports Radio sometimes walking down the hall, he gets turned
around too and drops things.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It's Steve to say, I don't think I've ever been
that confused.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wow, that was awful.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I mean just genuinely awful. You wouldn't see that in
a lot of minor league games. And yet that's how
this otherwise great major league game ended at Dodgers Stadium tonight,
LA over the Mets in ten innings, six to five,
twentieth comeback win by the Dodgers, most in the Majors
this year. Freddie Freeman what's called a game winning double.
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Max Munsey with two home runs, including one to tie
in the bottom of the night. The Mets had one
eight of their last nine. The Dodgers record about the
last four weeks is now up to fourteen and fourteen
and shortstout Mookie Betts did return from the broken toe
tonight and had two hits. A Padres comeback win in
ten innings at San Francisco three to two. The Padres
(31:33):
are the first major league team in over twenty years
to win back to back road games, despite being shot
out through eight innings in each. Comeback last night and
a comeback tonight. In fact, with two outs in the
ninth Manny Machado hit the tying two runs single.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
He went four for four.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
And then there's the A's, who've lost eight in a
row nineteen of their last twenty first time the franchise
has been that bad over this stretch since nineteen forty three.
So to beat the Athletics ten to three, by the way,
the t era for the A's in this losing nineteen
of twenty span eight point two nine. Colorado meanwhile, one
(32:11):
at Miami again, three to two on a solo homer
in the eighth. Colorado had trailed two nothing early on
the road. Until yesterday, the Rockies were three and twenty eight.
Now they've won twice at Miami. Houston won at Pittsburgh
three nothing with homers in the seventh and the ninth,
and in Houston's won eight of eleven and gone into
first half game over Seattle, which was beaten at home
(32:33):
five to one by Baltimore. Kansas City was a comeback
ten to seven winner at Saint Louis the Royals DH
tonight in his major league debut, Jack cagleone oh for five.
White Sox beat Detroit eight to one. White Sox had
been up one nothing in the sixth Tampa Bay five
to one over Texas the Rays of one ten of thirteen.
Arizona got two home runs from Ketel Marte and two
(32:55):
from Corbyn Carroll and an eight three win at Atlanta,
beating Spencer Strider, who's four Angels won in ten innings
four to three. At Boston, the Phillies Bryce Harper returned
from the Bruce elbow homeward in the first In fact,
six runs for Philly in the first eight three the win.
At Toronto, Yankees held off Cleveland three to two. The
save to Devin Williams, but he allowed to run in
(33:16):
the ninth. Yankee closer Luke Weaver goes on the il
with a strained hamstring. Cincinnati ended Milwaukee's eight game win
streak four to two. Cubs beat Washington eight to three.
The Knicks fired coach Tom Thibodeaux. WNBA Minnesota eight and
O beat Phoenix. US women's soccer won its exhibition in
Saint Louis four nothing over Jamaica Number two. See Carlos
(33:37):
Alcarez one as quarterfinal at the French Open and former
Vikings defensive end Jim Marshall passed away at age eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Back to you thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Carra and we'll get
to that Sam Darnold story coming up in a few minutes,
as well as two big hot takes for the Knicks
coming off the firing of Tibbs.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's next.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
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Speaker 1 (34:05):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon, Brandon Nimmo, thanks for nothing.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Uh, but you're You've won three out of five, Yeah,
Marti five. We're good, second best record in bab We're good.
We're good. Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Uh. We'll get to two big hot takes what's next
for the Knicks coming up in a couple of minutes.
But Doc Rivers, Uh no, not Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers
has a job. You are You are tampering Frostburg. Like
you're gonna get fired for tampering. Man, That's what I'm
gonna do. Say that again. I don't work for the Knicks,
doesn't matter. You work for the you work for you
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work for America, and you are tampering with Doc Rivers.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
America loves my idea.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
No, they don't. And we're also global. No downloads on
the iHeartRadio. We tampering all over, tampering, tampering.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Print cal.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Prink caller, print caller.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Well you get a five hour fine. I mean, come on, no,
a lot of money, a lot of money where.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
He never says the Nick should get doc rivers again,
like you know, you're not allowed to say those words again.
It's almost like you you said the Michael Buffer line.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You have to pay him cash. Oh he comes after
you for ten grands. How bad it is, That's how
bad it is.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But this this quick story out of out of the NFL,
because this is really crazy. Earlier today, Seahawks head coach
Michael McDonald did an interview on seven to ten in Seattle,
and he was asked by the hosts, Hey, any situation,
any scenario between now and the start of the season
(35:37):
outside of an injury where somebody else besides Sam Donald
could be the Seahawks quarterback. This because Donald has been
really up and down in OTA's not been.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Great so far.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
We reporters only get to see some of OTA's You
don't get every day. But what people have gotten to see,
reporter's gotten to see Donald has it look great? And
McDonald said, hey, look, man, you guys are crazy. I
respect you got to ask it, but it's just a
crazy question. Sam's our quarterback. He's doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Okay, I don't know about that so much, But what
I do know is that Sam Donald is not.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
A good quarterback. He is a good quarterback in the
right system. And I know that the Seahawks figure, hey,
look at what he did. We can bring him right
over here and he can be our guy. Well, you
know what, there's four other teams that thought Sam Donald
could be their guy. The Vikings didn't even think he
could be their guy. They wanted to be their backup.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I've seen him fail three out of four systems, and
they were all made. The Objets system was put around him,
and the Panthers system and I've seen him fail three
out of four times. So yeah, the rockiness here, Yes,
it's OTA's it's fine, I understand, but just remember Sam
Donald's not a good quarterback. He's good in the right systems.
(36:50):
As much as I like the fact the Seahawks said,
let's move on, Let's move on from Geno because we've
only gotten so far. Let's try something new. This was
a huge risk to bring in Sam Darnald. They are
really out on there with the risky proportion to go
get Sam. Donald said, here's three years and one hundred
and ten million dollars, Come be our guy. Because remember,
he's only good in the right system, and you don't
(37:13):
even know if he's going to be good in the system.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Well, I mean, we've cited a couple of the other
teams that he's played for, not exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Think tanks in terms of developing people.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And no, this is true.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
This is true, So I take it with a grain
of salt.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Maybe because he is still on the younger side, right,
we talk about his age all the time, but a
lot of years have experienced that maybe he turned the corner.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Maybe last year was it. Maybe it's not.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Maybe it's it's crashes and burns and it's in you know,
Flaming the led Zeppelin. But we don't know, but it's
it's just curious, and it's great that it's in Seattle
because you get to have this question because remember it
was posed back in twenty twelve when they signed Matt
Flynn to a lot of money, relatively inexperienced minute least
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Sam Donald's got more skin in the game, and.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Sure, more history and more recent success.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And you say all right, cool as opposed to a
couple of starts going fine, we're sold and then oh
wait no, the rookie that we drafted out of Wisconsin,
We're gonna use him instead, and the birtha Russell Wilson,
Uh Seahawks era began. So uh best organization, I guess
to do it all over again. So and if it's
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Sam Sam, Sam, then it makes the Jets look that
much worse. So they go not as bad as Nimo. Yeah, no, no, no,
that was bad.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
That was I I want to see you going after
our guy John Paul too well.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, John Paul Morosi puts out there, what a hit
by Freddy Freemans.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Why he's going to the Hall of Fame. Dude, Nimo
didn't catch a fly ball.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
He should have caught.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Jason.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's not Freddy.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Gee, I'm surprised. Okay, you know what everybody's got eyes.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
You look at the watch twenty times, not once, do
I see what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I'm making.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
You gotta watch with your eyes open. That's you gotta
watch with your eyes open.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And yeah, I take the l that we gave that,
we gave that, we gave you this game. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
We feel bad for you, so we gave it to
That's what it was, Brandon new That's the only that's
the only explanation from Nimo.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Well, I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I didn't know how to catch a fly ball, usually
on my side, and then I flip around, I flip over.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Sometimes I get hot and then I'll get out from
under the covers, but usually on my side. Asked an answer,
you asked how I sleep at night?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Now for the Knicks, what is next for them?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Firing of tips? Okay, it's not doc Rivers, and it's
not gonna be doc Rivers. If it is doc Rivers,
I I I can't follow through on that threat. But okay,
U two things. Number One, Karl Anthony Towns is the
player who potentially could be next out gone right. We
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talked about this for a few days. I will tell
you this hot take. Number one, Jalen Brunson is the
only player I can guarantee you will be on the
Knicks roster next season. This doesn't mean they're trading everybody,
but everybody else is available for the Knicks to improve
this team. It's gonna be a new head coach, a
new system. They know they need to change things up.
(40:20):
They didn't just fire Tips to bring in somebody else
and do the same thing. But everybody else will be available.
Cats be available, and nobody's available. Bridges is available, they
are Heart's available. They all make a lot of money,
Mitchell Robinson. They all make a lot of money. They
are all available. It will be at least a couple
of those guys getting traded, so then Nick can bring
in a playmaking forward, a guard that can create some offense,
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a big download that's more athletic. All those guys available,
Brunson is the only guy guarantee you will be on
the roster next season.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Get in there and sell, sell, sell, and they'll probably
hire someone that gets along with Leon Rose and James Dolan,
doesn't scoff at someone a little better with the media
than grumpiness.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
The other hot take is this, you didn't stop with that.
You didn't really see a lot of the Knicks. Some
of them were upset. Oh hey, thanks to thanks to tibbs.
Like Josh Hart put out of thanks, but it was
kind of a goodbye thing. I don't think the Knicks
were that surprised. Where we that upset that Tibbs got
let go. You didn't see it big, What is going on?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
What is going on? I think that went over kind
of how they thought it was going to.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
We're not getting doc rivers.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
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Mets and the Dodgers tied at five apiece in the
bottom of the nine after Max Muncy, Yes, who is
bookending tonight's game with an incredible performance.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Big home running the first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
And then a home run to lead off the ninth
inning here against Brasi Man. So it's five five, Dodger's
still batting two out bottom of the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
You can take that one out of the ocean.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah, that was that was a note. That was a
no doubter. Or that's one of those when I get cheated.
That was one of those when he hit it, it was, well,
there you go, it's five to five.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
You know this is uh that home run though, is
is meaningful on a whole other level, right obviously, ty
game bottom nine blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh yeah, it screws the Mets.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Well.
Speaker 6 (01:29):
Clayton Kershaw came into the game for his career eleven
and zer with an ERA of two and eighteen career
appearances against the Mets. He was on the on the
hook for the loss, and he's no longer. Perfection remains
on Kershaw.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You don't want to lose to the Mets.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Uh, dude, You've lost three out of four to us
so far.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Okay, just so you know, as the guy who counts
banners on June third.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yes I do, dude, you kidd The Mets have already
have a Bobblehead Night for winning the first three.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Out of four from the Dodgers this year.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
It's the fourth je You go back to watching reruns
of Halliburton's game one shot.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
It's happened.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
There never gonna see it. I saw that as I
rewatched Monday Night Raw. They had it and they were
selling his shirt in the w W E shop of
the joke.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Jason, just say you wanted to hear it again.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I wasn't Frost, But why don't you go back to
watching highlights of the Lakers in the second round of
the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Oh no, I know, I know you didn't. That's why
I thought we did for a secon.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
We totally thought we made the Sega round.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Dude, You're so getting Doc Rivers next year.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
It's so happening.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
You just heard me.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
The Knicks are gonna get what am I in?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
You didn't get on your swing bike.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Now, Hey, one of those bikes went for over one
hundred grand out of prop auction.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I didn't mean the real one is so uh Meds
and Dodgers tied five apiece as the Dodgers back in
the bottom of the I think we'll have more of
this game coming up. But look, the big story of
the day the Knicks decided to fire Tom Thibodeaux after
their best run in twenty five years to make it
to the Eastern Conference finals. Yeah, let's fire our head coach.
(03:15):
And look, we've talked a lot about this tonight, and
there's a lot of different angles on it that we've
gone through. You know, we have the player angle on it,
and the Brunson angle and the what's next for the players.
But Timms gets fired, and we told you last week,
I'm not going to be surprised if what happens because
sometimes and I wasn't surprised today, because sometimes losses are
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so bad that you need a fresh start. You can't
come back from them. And the Knicks lost game one
of this round to the Pacers. Teams were fourteen hundred
and fourteen wins and no losses in NBA history, with
a nine point lead and fifty seconds left to go
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up until Game one, where somehow the Knicks found a
way to lose. And I guarantee it, it's even worse
because this only goes back to nineteen ninety five. Right
before nineteen ninety five, that were keeping stats. But I
got news for you. Before nineteen ninety five, nobody made
threes like they do now in the NBA. Right, you
go back and watch the final couple minutes of a
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finals game from like the late nineties minutes, if someone's
up four with twenty five seconds left, like the game's over.
We're up four with twenty even it's over. We're not
gonna lose it. Now it's for twenty five seconds. It's
a toss up. So you go back when teams didn't
make threes as much. I guarantee you nobody blew a
nine point lead with fifty seconds left. And then you
want to get back to the eighties, Hey guess what
that was? No three pointers? So I guarantee you since
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the peach baskets, we had a hole torn in the
bottom so the ball could drop all the way through.
Nobody in NBA history had blown a lead like that.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Chooks did. It was.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
It's so all time awful for the Knicks. It's so
all time awful for the franchise. Think about the cloud
that's been going.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Up over them.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
They lose that game, they lose the series. They thought
they were going to the finals. Forget it. Man, this
is so bad that you know there's some sort of outcome.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
There needs to be some sort.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Of of of of toll paid for this loss.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
And I told you the two guys that were gonna
play it because I said, hey, this is so bad.
Watch what happens if they lose this series. The two
guys that are gonna be on the hook are TIBs
and Karl Anthony Towns. Right, watch out, don't be surprised
if TIBs gets fired, Oh, Tim Ducketty friede fire, TIBs
gets fired, because if you bring him back, this is
not a loss where you can simply say, all right,
(05:38):
it happened, we blew a lead, we shargar shoulder, bring
the same same guys back.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
That's not gonna work. Obviously it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
It wasn't gonna work because the Nick showed that all
the warts they had in the Eastern Conference Finals were
opened up by the Pacers and bringing TIBs back, this game,
this series hangs over the Knicks with tip just just
Tibbs's presence. It hangs over the Knicks, It hangs over
the fan base, it hangs over Nick's nation, hangs over
the players.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
They need a fresh start.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
And that's why when it happened today, I was not
shocked because I know the Knicks. Okay, hey, how much
of it is Tibbs's fault, But it doesn't matter because
if Tibbs comes back, this is the loss that defines them,
and it's gonna be an all time loss anyway, right,
But you want to be able to move past it
while you have this group of players potentially win a
championship and then it's just one of those, you know,
(06:27):
bad memories, but you have the title from whatever year
coming up the next couple of years.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Not all losses are created equal. And this game won
and then.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Subsequent finals loss was so incredibly bad they had no choice.
They had no choice but to start over because they
need that fresh start for next year.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And that's why Tim's got fired.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of different parts
to it. I mean, you were talking about blame Pi.
You know, how much his roster construction, how much is
buy in, how much his tired legs. We talked with
Mark Stein last ou or remember that during the regular season,
one of the big notes about the Nicks, even in
the rise to the number three seed in the East,
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was the fact that they couldn't beat anybody good triple
underscore that because generally, what are the teams that you're
playing in the playoffs. They're at least semi competent with
a little bit of luck that will push him past.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
The finish line.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Right as we talk about each and every year, you
don't have to love the teams that are playing in
the conference finals or the finals, but clearly they were
able to navigate.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
A bunch of potholes along the way.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
And for Thibadeau, the other part I saw starting to
circle about. I was like, well, you just signed him
to an extension. It goes back to the guy who's
currently the favorite to replace him, which is something that
Leon Rose and our man James do. One need to
remind yourself if you've decided that the guy is done,
the dollar amount that you're beholden to him doesn't matter anymore.
(07:54):
Right for the playoff run in Denver, they decided we're
done with the coach and the GM see you, We'll
do make our best run we can with the guys
that are here. Congratulations, Adamman now has the job and
he moves forward with the Knicks. The fact that Tibbodeau
signed the extension that was in the moment, well, guess what,
we don't we live in a different world than we
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did thirty seconds ago.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
I'm telling you it was I can get Draft Day
and I got to. So that's what we're at.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
It's like you're looking at it going forward, going is
this tenable? Is this a situation where this is the
floor of what we can achieve? And if that's If
that's the case, then Tips stays. If not, then you say, hey,
thank you, congratulations, here's a novelty check.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
We'll see you later.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Now things I see, things change so much after that
first game. It was okay, and then they lose. If
they won the series, obviously it's different, but that one
game was just it was just so bad, Like everything
turned anti TIBs and anti Carl Anthony Townsend, anti everything
after that first game. And it's New York and people
want blood and people, hey, there's got to be somebody's
(09:01):
got to pay for that. This is an all time
worst defeat in NBA history. Somebody's got to pay. And
Tips paid. You know why, because Tim's had a bad playoff, right.
I mean, go back to the go back to the
first round against Detroit where he didn't have Jalen Brunton
on the court for the final time for.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Minute to get him back on.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
It's like, dude, he's your best player, he's a top
five NBA player. I get that, oh the flow of
the game, but you gotta get him back on the court.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Man, what are you doing so automatically? That was a
big thing.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
But then they beat the Celtics and everything is good
and and okay, they won, and it was it was shocking.
And they won the first two games, it was okay,
but that one loss changed everything, right, And it's it's
kind of like this. Usually we see that with players.
You know, when when a team blows a big lead
in in Major League Baseball and they you know, they
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don't make the playoffs. They blow a division lead, or
in the NFL, they blow a division lead and they
wind up not being able to advance in the playoffs
and things get really bad. You see get fired. Right, Oh,
you presided over this big this big collapse. Right, Okay,
you get that. But normally we see it with players, right,
And I'll go back to just watched Pete Alonzo striking
(10:09):
out in the tenth inning, and now the Mets are
gonna lose. Devin Williams is one of the best relievers
in baseball for the last couple of years right now.
He was hurt a little bit last year, but when
he was healthy, he was great. A fastball change up,
that's his bread and butter.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
He was.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
He's basically unhittable when he was healthy. But what happens
in that first round series against the Mets it's a
two to nothing lead in the ninth inning. All he's
got to do is close out this game. Brewers are
onto the nlds and everything is great. Instead, what happens
Pete Alonso. It's the biggest home run of the season.
In the ninth inningyive the Mets a three to two lead.
They score four runs in that inning and the Brewers lose,
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and the Mets go on and the Brewers go home.
That was a really bad loss. And sometimes you can't
have a guy come back. And Devin Williams, if he
came back to the Brewers, that loss was gonna hang
over him. It's what all the fans are gonna think
every time he comes out. It's what's gonna go through
his head. It's what we go through his teammates heads.
He blew that game. You're not gonna get past it.
(11:05):
So they had to move on. So boom.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
Now he's the Yankee.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Right, some loss is just really difficult to get over.
And this is just so incredibly bad that Okay, if
the head coach is here, who already had a bad
enough postseason, that's gonna be the worst thing.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Right.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Obviously, we can't change out all the players, But the
coach is the first domino to go because this was
something that we can't come back and rerun the same
thing over again because not only did he have a
bad playoff, but when you compound it with this loss
to the Pacers in Game one, that the fan base
and the team is never gonna get over. Yeah, it's
not surprising that Tibbs is gone as a head coach.
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I don't think the Knicks are that surprised. I don't
think the Knicks players are that surprised. I think it
surprised a lot of fans. Look, we've been talking about
this for the last couple of weeks. Hey, Tibbs and
Karl Anthony Towns, these are the guys could go from
the Knicks, and today it was Tibbs's turn.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
And once again, you know, not only did you get
out coach, you got a coach by the same guy.
And Carlisle's not going where He's just gond be waving
at you when it's all said none, because Tibbineau's if
he were to have stayed, you know, no, there's no
stylistic changes to short rotation, heavy minutes and then occasionally
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break glass in case of emergency and hope it works.
And two of your starters are still going to be
defensive liabilities. Oj O Geanoovi has to basically play the
role of three guys to try to compensate, and it's
just not sustainable against better squads.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
So yeah, it's it's a final.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
And now we get into the long laundry list of
the odds, which really are kind of funny, all the
way down to Stephen A.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
Smith at sixty to one.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh dude, they're great.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Man again watching the different names trend today, going, oh,
people think Rick Patino's going to be the head coach
of the next Okay, great, yeah, well.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
The first start of the guys that get included that
are still head coaches in the NBA, right, it's like, wait, that.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Guy has a job. Yeah yeah, year.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah, Like Atkinson is the second favorite.
Speaker 5 (13:04):
It's like, okay, so now we're getting into trade mode.
Now that's trade carl An trade Karl Anthony Towns for
Kenny Atkins.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Well, I mean he's got one more year before he
gets fired, because I mean all coaches of the year
get fired because Tibbs completes that run. Right, Oh yeah,
but he since twenty eighteen, that wonted Coach of the
Year award.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you know what, no longer with that squad. It's
like winning an Oscar. Like you win an Oscar. Okay,
you're not going to get a big role for another
twenty years, right, Like you won an Oscar. Now people
are second year that you're not going to get big roles.
Just be happy that you won.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Gets get some consistent work.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
And then some of those studios that had a movie
that they tested poorly or they didn't want to spend
the money on the marketing for it's like, guess what,
here we go. We've got this like the McConaughey. Uh,
you know horror film from all those years ago. Right,
it's like, hey, you don't look at Matthew McConaughey, you
can watch him or Jennifer Aniston. Now is the big
star of Leprecaun all these years later it's waiting, couldn't
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get released before.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
But now I'm a big star and I won an award. Yes,
I've won a Golden Razzie for Leprechaun.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Eh Leprechaun?
Speaker 5 (14:08):
What a series.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome again? Just
think about sometimes losses are so bad.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
You have no choice.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You have no choice but to move on to give
a fresh start, and that's what we saw.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
We have more on this story coming up. What's next.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
We got a couple of big hot takes when it
comes to the Knicks and what's next for them, what
could be next for the rest of the NBA if
you like some of the players on the Knicks roster.
But straight ahead a double barrel of big NFL stories,
including one quarterback derby that we didn't think we were
gonna have but apparently might happen.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
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Speaker 5 (16:33):
First Bitch Freeman Lifts One The Other Way Back Ghost Demo.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Still Back, Still Back Here, It is over, Pretty Freeman
Dressing Tommy Edmund, The Dodgers come back and win it
in ten.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
So one of the met's gonna hang the banner. We
led through eight.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
That play by play on Dodgers TV not nearly representative
of what that play was, right you think, Oh, Freddie
Freeman hit one off the wall. No, Freddy Freean with
one out and runners at first and second, Freddie Freeman
hit a fly ball to the middle of the warning
track in left center field and a left field really
and Brandon Nimmo runs back and he overruns the ball,
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and he turns around and the ball bounces next to
him in the middle of the warning track. It's a
catchable fly ball. It should be two outs and the
game going. Freddie Freeman hit a long fly ball in
the middle of the warning track, and Brandon Nimmo did
his Holly Hollywood and wolfman, where'd he go?
Speaker 5 (17:38):
We went like this?
Speaker 4 (17:39):
He went like this. Hollywood said, where'd he go? I said,
where did who go?
Speaker 5 (17:44):
You're a professional out I got a pole quick.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Come on, man, that was the I mean, how do
you make a play like this?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Jason?
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Did no understand that you lost?
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Because that was that was basically an error, even though
he touched the ball.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
He just.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
You know what, you guys, dude, it's a fly ball.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
That landed in the warning track and left field. You
have to catch that ball, like, that's a catch. I
don't know what he was doing the mass.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Do we have a better record than you? We beat
you three out of five games? Okay, just stop, okay,
stop stop with that. You're not you're winning.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
It's three out of five games, six games? Did we
beat you three out of seven out of eight?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
No, let me ask the whole question, though, m or
Carol Anthony Towns.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
Oh, well, you know that's that's a push. There are
no winners here.
Speaker 4 (18:37):
That's one of those things.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
That was just awful.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Ill what's he doing?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That's that's completely terrible, man, I don't drifting.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
Drifting, Yeah, oh, it's a home run.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
No, it's a flyout, and Nimo for some reason, over
runs it spins around, spins around, and it still falls
to the side of him. Like, I don't know what
happened on that play. I really can't wait to hear
what he says. I I'm hoping he says I wasn't
paying attention or I didn't see it. I lost it
in the sun, even though it's eleven o'clock at night.
I'm hoping for something, because that that that's not a
(19:12):
play a professional outfielder makes.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Jason, did you not hear the highlight? This is exactly
how the play unfolded.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
Streaming lifts the other way back goes Nemo still back.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Still back. This is over, pretty Freeman.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Tommy Edmond, I don't know where all that other stuff is.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, man, it's little Tommy that scores the runs. So
how does that make a liar?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
No, I'm saying Joe Davis very just forgot about it,
very creatively.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Just didn't say because what the call should have been
was this flyball to left Nemo back middle of the
warning track. He's spinning around, What the hell is he doing?
It lands next to him, and Edmund's gonna score and
the Dodgers are gonna win this. I need a drink?
Speaker 5 (19:57):
Are you?
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That's what you criticize, using Joe Davis for being respectful,
uh and not unverbally undressing your player even though he
was the opponent.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yeah, well, I'm saying he creatively wanted to make it
seem like Freddy Freeman had this courageous blast off the
wall that one again, and that's not That's exactly what
it was Brandon him let a catchable fly ball that
every outfielder in the majors makes.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
Next time.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Yeah, no, he hit to the right guy. I'm not
saying he did.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
I liked that every outfielder in the majors last time.
Look Dodgers majors.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, yeah, every time except for that. Yeah, oh yeah,
Freddy Freeman's here. No, he hit a fly ball that
should have been caught. But you know, Mets, so.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
Your old guy Frank the tank had a hot take.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
Oh boy, there's not a single redeeming quality with the
blankety blank and Dodgers, not one single likable pier.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Catch and home run all for nothing.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
Yeah all that. I thought that he ridded a ball
down and you got nothing out of it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
No, Well, then he struck out in the in the
tenth inning with the time let's go ahead run at
second because he swings at the first two pitches that
are eight feet off the plate in the dirt.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
I'm like, what is he swinging at?
Speaker 6 (21:13):
But it also does go back to science. If if
you don't get the Lindor home run, you don't win.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Jason, you want to know how bad the Mets are.
Speaker 5 (21:26):
We're not bad. We have.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
The same Yeah, yeah, And here's you know, here's the
other part.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Is that so Brazaban who threw thirty five pitches last night,
let's bring him back in the closing night.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
He threw thirty five pitches.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Last nights threw like fifteen pitches. Why is he not
he's on. I guess maybe it's three days in a
row for Daz. But he threw thirty five pitches last night,
and once he takes them deep that a ball that
still hasn't landed just passed by my house.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
It just landed again. There's no cheap ones our guy.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
You cla Dodger Frank on Twitter in his best Burman quote,
and TJ Nemo had no chance of finding that fly ball.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
DJ Jason, you want to know how good Tanner Scott
was tonight?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
How good was Tanner Scott tonight?
Speaker 3 (22:15):
He went one, two, three in the tenth on the Mets.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
You just said that like making sure you heard it.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
It's like thirty seconds ago. You know, repetition, Remember that.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Don't keep saying the same joke over and over again.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
The back page of the post is gonna be Freddie
Freeman on the on the keyboard with sausages tied.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Do you you honestly think the back page of the
post has any time for anything that's not Tibbs?
Speaker 4 (22:39):
You really think it's gonna it's gonna.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Be well, if you'd won, it was gonna be the
redemption of Sodo, It's gonna be Tom to go.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And then in very very tiny print, it's gonna go.
Mets also played late, but that's all. It's gonna tell
you to have.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
A copy of it, and it says big letters, what's up? Doc?
Speaker 5 (23:03):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Can't you can't you?
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Okay? You won tonight.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Can't you just stop putting out in the atmosphere that
you want the Mets and you want the Mets, that
you want the Knicks to hire Doc Rivers.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Stop doing that. I wouldn't do that to you, though,
I mean no where fy. I mean I wouldn't do
that to one for the team.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Well, do you take what I don't want that I'm
not We're not gonna talk about basketball at all.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Next.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Are you choosing America or the Knicks?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
America?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Oh, I choose the Knicks. I choose a Nix, I
choose a Nick. Yeah, oh yeah, one hundred percent. You
realize how I just lost in the Eastern Conference Finals.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
Come on man.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
But we will have more on the on the Knicks
coming up in a few minutes, including two big hot
takes for what is next after the I said takes
not cakes, but hotcakes sound good too. What's next for
the next after firing TIBs? But two big stories out
of the NFL to get to here.
Speaker 4 (23:50):
Uh, you know it's becoming.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
Relevant now and and and a bunch of people in
the in the blogosphere are talking about what the final
price is going to be for you to get every
NFL game this season.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Right, We'll get to Sam Donald a couple of seconds,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Gonna cost over fifteen hundred bucks for you to watch
every NFL game this year because of all the all
the money you'd have to pay for cable, for the
streaming sites. Fifteen hundred dollars to get every game.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
Yeah, you also get a lot of other great quality product.
Oh yeah, you would content along the way, so.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
It's not in a vacuum.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Hey, speaking of great great quality, Department Q on Netflix phenomenal,
it's fantastic. Does start watching Department Q. It's a it's
a mystery, it's an it's fantastic it is absolutely v
part of it. No, No, Department K actually takes place
in Edinburgh, where we went for vacation last so god,
we'll try it.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Matthew good is in it, he's the big star.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Kelly McDonald from Boardwalk Empire, Yeah yeah, and Shirley Henderson
moaning Myrtle is in it.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
It's it's so good. I can't I can't tell you
how good it is.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But anyway, so fifteen hundred bucks to watch all the
game and I get that that sounds a daunting, but
no one's gonna pay fifteen hundred bucks to get all
the games.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
This is where the NFL is gonna get to a point.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
This is why they need to condense the streaming issues,
because with too many entities having streaming, they're gonna get
to a point where people are gonna say.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
You know what, I don't need this. I don't need
this streaming service. I don't need those games. I don't
need this.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I'm gonna pick and choo because I'm an pick and
choose where I spend my money. And if I get
the NFL package on Sunday, that's it.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Do I need to do?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yeah, I'd love to have the games around Christmas time,
but you know whatever, I'll be out shopping. Maybe i'll
watch it.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
This is where the NFL is going to get into
trouble with with with streaming. With too many sites people
are and you have to spend all kinds of money,
people are simply gonna say, I'm not gonna do it,
Like no one's gonna not buy the YouTube package, right,
which is still gonna always be the thing and all Sundays,
all the games, but with too many games on too
many different streaming venues, this is going to be a
(26:00):
two or three year trend where they're gonna say, oh,
wait a minute, people aren't spending enough for this because
it's just too much, Like no one's gonna spend.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
For all of those streaming services.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So this is where the NFL will get to, Okay,
maybe now we want to have a couple of packages
and we're gonna put them together and let streaming services
bid on them, because we want people to say you
can have the YouTube and Netflix and Amazon and that's it, right,
or the or your peacock and Amazon and that's it.
So the NFL is eventually going to get to that
because this is where they'll get in trouble.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
Well, in the end, you're looking at two hundred and
seventy two divvied up, and outside of lunatics like us
and the lunatic fringe, nobody's looking to watch all to
seventy two. Tell me, if tell me all the non
Titans fans that are clamoring to go watch what they're
gonna put out or I don't know, to see duval
(26:51):
You know, wow, I just went to Douvons.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Even though you love Travis Hunter, and you know, we'll
see what happens. But all of that to say, you pick.
Speaker 6 (27:02):
And choose right, you know, the lamentation and handwringing that
goes on about the NBA playoff ratings. Okay, so they
got eight million for the Knick's final loss to the Pacers,
but overall, what do we hear all year? Ah, they
only get one point whatever million per game.
Speaker 5 (27:19):
Don't matter. They signed a ten year deal for seventy
six billion dollars.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Those guys that are getting those funds cycling through right now,
a lot of them will be dead in ten years.
When you talk about ownership groups or whatever they want,
what they get now, what happens down the road doesn't matter.
For fans that want the full experience, then you pay.
Just remember what it was a short time ago where
(27:44):
you had your one or two national windows. I remember
growing up, I got the Bears and then every week
I got either the Cowboys or the forty nine Ers,
which meant I grew a very irrational hate for both
of those squads.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
Forty nine Ers a little bit more because of the playoff.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
But all of that to say that you didn't have
a lot of options, So you watch what you watch
here if you really need all of that, guess what
it's like everything else for only the cup of coffee,
and do what you need to do.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
I mean, you make your choices.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
If you buy the YouTube TV thing, remember that also
comes with the eighty three bucks a month for the
monthly subscription.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
The other ones are a pittance in.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Comparison to that for those games, and you find your
value in your prime and whatever else. I'm not trying
to do a sales pitch for them, but all in all,
I would say that you're a ways away before this
becomes a harmful experience to where you're turning away willing customers.
(28:45):
At this point, it's a fractionalization, and all those moneys
have been paid for by the streaming services. So the
NFL is just looking at their coffers right now. What
happens ten fifteen years down the road, you only care
to a point.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Won't be ten fit it'll be it'll be the next
two or three years. It'll be whoa, whoah wallh.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Because again you're gonna see all the streaming services are
going to uh find it that there's not going to
be as many because now they're all not going to
make money and they're going to be some kind of condensing.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
But you know these aren't going to munchling places.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Jason, Yeah, but it's still but you're still paying for it.
I mean, who's paid.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Netflix? Those aren't going away.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, but you're still paying fifteen hundred dollars for how
many four or five different streaming services to get games.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
I mean, people aren't gonna do all of that, well,
most of that is.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
If you want to do through the YouTube TV subscription,
you're looking at eighty three a month, So whatever do
it over five or six months, four hundred five hundred
dollars plus the cost of the NFL package, which is
going to be another four whatever.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
So I mean there's nine hundred of it right there.
So you just have to decide is that what you
what you're looking to do.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
It's it's a lot of money to ask fans to
say when you're not, when you're over served for football already,
to say, yes, pay this money for it. I'll tell
you it can happen fast. It can happen really fast.
You see how you see how the economics change really
quickly in this country.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
It could be faster.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah, I don't need that those games, those games turn
out to not be good games. I don't need that
streaming service because midway through the season, I can tell
you that the Dolphins and the Jaguars Week seven, I
don't need to watch that game.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I don't need that. So I don't need that service.
I mean, NFL fans are smart. You're gonna see and
I like the Major League Baseball is gonna go all Apple,
So you know.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Oh yeah, that's that's gonna be a great decision.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Uh. Time now to find out what's trending in the wide.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
World of sports.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
So someone who's been called the Brandon Nimo of Fox
Sports Radio sometimes walking down the hall, he gets turned
around too and drops things.
Speaker 7 (30:45):
It's Steve to say, I don't think I've ever been
that confused.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Wow, that was awful.
Speaker 7 (30:51):
I mean just genuinely awful. You wouldn't see that in
a lot of minor league games. And yet that's how
this otherwise great major league game ended at Dodgers Stadium tonight,
LA over the Mets in ten innings, six to five,
twentieth comeback win by the Dodgers, most in the Majors
this year. Freddie Freeman what's called a game winning double.
(31:12):
Max Munsey with two home runs, including one to tie
in the bottom of the night. The Mets had one
eight of their last nine. The Dodgers record about the
last four weeks is now up to fourteen and fourteen
and shortstout Mookie Betts did return from the broken toe
tonight and had two hits. A Padres comeback win in
ten innings at San Francisco three to two. The Padres
(31:33):
are the first major league team in over twenty years
to win back to back road games, despite being shot
out through eight innings in each. Comeback last night and
a comeback tonight. In fact, with two outs in the
ninth Manny Machado hit the tying two runs single.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
He went four for four.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
And then there's the A's, who've lost eight in a
row nineteen of their last twenty first time the franchise
has been that bad over this stretch since nineteen forty three.
So to beat the Athletics ten to three, by the way,
the t era for the A's in this losing nineteen
of twenty span eight point two nine. Colorado meanwhile, one
(32:11):
at Miami again, three to two on a solo homer
in the eighth. Colorado had trailed two nothing early on
the road. Until yesterday, the Rockies were three and twenty eight.
Now they've won twice at Miami. Houston won at Pittsburgh
three nothing with homers in the seventh and the ninth,
and in Houston's won eight of eleven and gone into
first half game over Seattle, which was beaten at home
(32:33):
five to one by Baltimore. Kansas City was a comeback
ten to seven winner at Saint Louis the Royals DH
tonight in his major league debut, Jack cagleone oh for five.
White Sox beat Detroit eight to one. White Sox had
been up one nothing in the sixth Tampa Bay five
to one over Texas the Rays of one ten of thirteen.
Arizona got two home runs from Ketel Marte and two
(32:55):
from Corbyn Carroll and an eight three win at Atlanta,
beating Spencer Strider, who's four Angels won in ten innings
four to three. At Boston, the Phillies Bryce Harper returned
from the Bruce elbow homeward in the first In fact,
six runs for Philly in the first eight three the win.
At Toronto, Yankees held off Cleveland three to two. The
save to Devin Williams, but he allowed to run in
(33:16):
the ninth. Yankee closer Luke Weaver goes on the il
with a strained hamstring. Cincinnati ended Milwaukee's eight game win
streak four to two. Cubs beat Washington eight to three.
The Knicks fired coach Tom Thibodeaux. WNBA Minnesota eight and
O beat Phoenix. US women's soccer won its exhibition in
Saint Louis four nothing over Jamaica Number two. See Carlos
(33:37):
Alcarez one as quarterfinal at the French Open and former
Vikings defensive end Jim Marshall passed away at age eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Back to you thank you, Steve though The Jason Smith
Show with my best friend Mike Carra and we'll get
to that Sam Darnold story coming up in a few minutes,
as well as two big hot takes for the Knicks
coming off the firing of Tibbs.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
That's next.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific, Fox.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend
Mike Harmon, Brandon Nimmo, thanks for nothing.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Uh, but you're You've won three out of five, Yeah,
Marti five. We're good, second best record in bab We're good.
We're good. Everything is good.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Uh. We'll get to two big hot takes what's next
for the Knicks coming up in a couple of minutes.
But Doc Rivers, Uh no, not Doc Rivers. Doc Rivers
has a job. You are You are tampering Frostburg. Like
you're gonna get fired for tampering. Man, That's what I'm
gonna do. Say that again. I don't work for the Knicks,
doesn't matter. You work for the you work for you
(34:41):
work for America, and you are tampering with Doc Rivers.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
America loves my idea.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
No, they don't. And we're also global. No downloads on
the iHeartRadio. We tampering all over, tampering, tampering.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Can't do it, can't do it.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
Print cal.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Prink caller, print caller.
Speaker 5 (34:57):
Well you get a five hour fine. I mean, come on, no,
a lot of money, a lot of money where.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
He never says the Nick should get doc rivers again,
like you know, you're not allowed to say those words again.
It's almost like you you said the Michael Buffer line.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
You have to pay him cash. Oh he comes after
you for ten grands. How bad it is, That's how
bad it is.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
But this this quick story out of out of the NFL,
because this is really crazy. Earlier today, Seahawks head coach
Michael McDonald did an interview on seven to ten in Seattle,
and he was asked by the hosts, Hey, any situation,
any scenario between now and the start of the season
(35:37):
outside of an injury where somebody else besides Sam Donald
could be the Seahawks quarterback. This because Donald has been
really up and down in OTA's not been.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Great so far.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
We reporters only get to see some of OTA's You
don't get every day. But what people have gotten to see,
reporter's gotten to see Donald has it look great? And
McDonald said, hey, look, man, you guys are crazy. I
respect you got to ask it, but it's just a
crazy question. Sam's our quarterback. He's doing a tremendous job.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Okay, I don't know about that so much, But what
I do know is that Sam Donald is not.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
A good quarterback. He is a good quarterback in the
right system. And I know that the Seahawks figure, hey,
look at what he did. We can bring him right
over here and he can be our guy. Well, you
know what, there's four other teams that thought Sam Donald
could be their guy. The Vikings didn't even think he
could be their guy. They wanted to be their backup.
Speaker 5 (36:29):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I've seen him fail three out of four systems, and
they were all made. The Objets system was put around him,
and the Panthers system and I've seen him fail three
out of four times. So yeah, the rockiness here, Yes,
it's OTA's it's fine, I understand, but just remember Sam
Donald's not a good quarterback. He's good in the right systems.
(36:50):
As much as I like the fact the Seahawks said,
let's move on, Let's move on from Geno because we've
only gotten so far. Let's try something new. This was
a huge risk to bring in Sam Darnald. They are
really out on there with the risky proportion to go
get Sam. Donald said, here's three years and one hundred
and ten million dollars, Come be our guy. Because remember,
he's only good in the right system, and you don't
(37:13):
even know if he's going to be good in the system.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Well, I mean, we've cited a couple of the other
teams that he's played for, not exactly.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
Think tanks in terms of developing people.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
And no, this is true.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
This is true, So I take it with a grain
of salt.
Speaker 6 (37:30):
Maybe because he is still on the younger side, right,
we talk about his age all the time, but a
lot of years have experienced that maybe he turned the corner.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Maybe last year was it. Maybe it's not.
Speaker 6 (37:40):
Maybe it's it's crashes and burns and it's in you know,
Flaming the led Zeppelin. But we don't know, but it's
it's just curious, and it's great that it's in Seattle
because you get to have this question because remember it
was posed back in twenty twelve when they signed Matt
Flynn to a lot of money, relatively inexperienced minute least
(38:03):
Sam Donald's got more skin in the game, and.
Speaker 5 (38:05):
Sure, more history and more recent success.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
And you say all right, cool as opposed to a
couple of starts going fine, we're sold and then oh
wait no, the rookie that we drafted out of Wisconsin,
We're gonna use him instead, and the birtha Russell Wilson,
Uh Seahawks era began. So uh best organization, I guess
to do it all over again. So and if it's
(38:28):
Sam Sam, Sam, then it makes the Jets look that
much worse. So they go not as bad as Nimo. Yeah, no, no, no,
that was bad.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
That was I I want to see you going after
our guy John Paul too well.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
Yeah, John Paul Morosi puts out there, what a hit
by Freddy Freemans.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Why he's going to the Hall of Fame. Dude, Nimo
didn't catch a fly ball.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
He should have caught.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
Jason.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
It's not Freddy.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Gee, I'm surprised. Okay, you know what everybody's got eyes.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
You look at the watch twenty times, not once, do
I see what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
I'm making.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
You gotta watch with your eyes open. That's you gotta
watch with your eyes open.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
And yeah, I take the l that we gave that,
we gave that, we gave you this game. Congratulations.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
We feel bad for you, so we gave it to
That's what it was, Brandon new That's the only that's
the only explanation from Nimo.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Well, I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
I didn't know how to catch a fly ball, usually
on my side, and then I flip around, I flip over.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Sometimes I get hot and then I'll get out from
under the covers, but usually on my side. Asked an answer,
you asked how I sleep at night?
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (39:33):
Now for the Knicks, what is next for them?
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Firing of tips? Okay, it's not doc Rivers, and it's
not gonna be doc Rivers. If it is doc Rivers,
I I I can't follow through on that threat. But okay,
U two things. Number One, Karl Anthony Towns is the
player who potentially could be next out gone right. We
(39:59):
talked about this for a few days. I will tell
you this hot take. Number one, Jalen Brunson is the
only player I can guarantee you will be on the
Knicks roster next season. This doesn't mean they're trading everybody,
but everybody else is available for the Knicks to improve
this team. It's gonna be a new head coach, a
new system. They know they need to change things up.
(40:20):
They didn't just fire Tips to bring in somebody else
and do the same thing. But everybody else will be available.
Cats be available, and nobody's available. Bridges is available, they
are Heart's available. They all make a lot of money,
Mitchell Robinson. They all make a lot of money. They
are all available. It will be at least a couple
of those guys getting traded, so then Nick can bring
in a playmaking forward, a guard that can create some offense,
(40:42):
a big download that's more athletic. All those guys available,
Brunson is the only guy guarantee you will be on
the roster next season.
Speaker 6 (40:48):
Get in there and sell, sell, sell, and they'll probably
hire someone that gets along with Leon Rose and James Dolan,
doesn't scoff at someone a little better with the media
than grumpiness.
Speaker 1 (41:01):
The other hot take is this, you didn't stop with that.
You didn't really see a lot of the Knicks. Some
of them were upset. Oh hey, thanks to thanks to tibbs.
Like Josh Hart put out of thanks, but it was
kind of a goodbye thing. I don't think the Knicks
were that surprised. Where we that upset that Tibbs got
let go. You didn't see it big, What is going on?
Speaker 5 (41:22):
What is going on? I think that went over kind
of how they thought it was going to.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
We're not getting doc rivers.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
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