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Speaker 3 (00:30):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Dan byer in for Jason Smith tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Jason, we'll be back middle of next week gallivanting in
the Greater state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
We went back and forth a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Normally we leave each other alone.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Over the course of our travels highways and byways, vacations,
we see enough of each other.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's like beat it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But over the last week twice they all have been
the circumstance of nah man, you know, one of those
legacy and childhood things. With the passing of Ozzy Osbourne
a few days ago and then today, man, all I
did was run around. I want to I wish I
had a ring where I could have just bounced off
the ropes a while to try to get my head
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around the fact that Hulk Hogan Terry Balaya, the uh
super Destroyer there you go, when he wore a mask
and you weren't supposed to know who he was. All
of those things had passed away. You know a bit
of that childhood. You know, it's starting to get sluffed
off here.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Bit by bit.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I can go full on, you know, take the movie
analogies of say like The Avengers spoiler alert, when they
all get turned to dust off a thano snap.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I feel like bits of pieces are going to day
after day.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Heah, yeah, I know where you're coming from. One hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I will say that it is amazing that that we're
sitting here and being like seventy one, considering all of
the guys that he wrestled that are no longer here.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And had been gone a long time for many of them.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Yes, right, yes, like that's that's part of it, and
I just I can't get away from because now it's
been we're still within twenty four hours of finding out
of his passing. There were I don't want to call
him reports Mike, but there was talk saw some stuff
on TikTok recently on that Hulk Hogan wasn't in good condition.
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Didn't know necessarily what was going on with it, but
the news just didn't sound good. Seemed like it was
information that was from a source that wasn't just making
it up that it was, and why would you make
up something like that? But still when it happens, it
hurts now the Ozzie one because of the concert and everything.
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There's so many emotions coming up with that mentioned Malcolm
Jamal Warner earlier, and I bring him up again because
of just the shock of it. But I know that
there are many people today who grew up watching The
Cosby Show, listening the Ozzy Osbourne and watching professional wrestling,
and I'm looking at one of them right now that
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are just like, my.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Goodness, how could this happen?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
And you want to look back at all of the
good times in the great times, and with Hulk Hogan
there were a lot of great times in the nineteen
eighties and there were a lot of great times in
the nineteen nineties. There's going to be discourse and discussions
about stuff that's happened recently. But I just think within
this twenty four hours, we have to honor the guy
that so many people were fans of, looked up to,
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just made their life better, allowed them to escape through
the world of wrestling. And the character doesn't even seem right,
but the name of Halkoka Go.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's just it right, separating the guy Terry Blaya and
the business side of all of this was somewhere in
between the character and the person. And certainly plenty of
stories from around the ring and behind the scenes and
power plays and whatever else, not terribly different than a
lot of the stuff that goes on in any workplace
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of folks trying to climb a ladder or if they're
at the top of the food chain, you know what,
trying to stay there. Right, We've seen all of that
go back through some of the steroid trials, go back
through some of the other issues unionizing and things of
those nature. You can do deep dives on all of that,
plenty of documentaries to be had. Certainly some verbiage that
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has resurfaced and has been part of the lexicon today,
not new information, just if you're new to the story
or you decide to as I like to call it.
You know, it's the theater of all of this in
our greater media world, and with everybody now having the
lower case jay for journalism with it as long as
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armed with a phone and a social media account to
where it becomes a if I say something really outrageous
and pick at this, this or this, I can get
huge engagement. And certainly with Hulk Hogan, a lot of
folks were blissfully ignorant of some of the other things.
Doesn't mean they didn't happen, But for the purpose of today,
you're talking about a lot of people whose livelihoods spawned
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from it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Who owe back to it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
All the wrestlers who had personal beef with several of
the instances that I'm talking about here, recognize like Brunus
the barber Beefcake. Yes he's still out there people, and
he still has his scissors.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They never reconciled.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They had a falling out years ago, It's been chronicled
in many interviews. Anything first thing he put up, it's like,
I love this man a lot of time together. I'm
sorry we didn't get to heal our rift before he passed,
and put up just as many photos of the two
of them together in different circumstances down in clear Water,
in the larger Tampa area where many of them call
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home and everything else. So today I'm celebrating like I'm
ten and eleven watching Saturday Morning Wrestling WrestleMania, our first outing.
If you miss that story, get the podcast. It's one
that my brother's like, yeah, you captured that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You can actually speak once in a while to which,
like with my mom and the White Sox raise game yesterday,
might have got.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
A middle finger EMODEI back there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
General direction, but just the idea of the sentimentality of it,
of you know, you long for those spaces which are
fewer and farther between as you get older. Right, you
got parents going through stuff, relatives going through stuff, people
that you're working with, your friends, all of these different things,
not to mention the world at large that don't allow
you to calm your mind for five minutes. But when
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you have an opportunity like here to touch back like
I did with Ozzy songs. I'm like, oh, remember when
he covered this whatever, Hey Hogan, remember this battle against
the Rock? Remember this, remember the nWo that you have
a laugh and you can reconnect with just that boyhood
if it's even if it's fleeting, it takes you out
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of your headspace for some of the other negativity.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Steve Stunt called Steve Austin who wrote Haul Cogan was
born to be a professional wrestler larger than live charisma.
For days, he was in a stratosphere all on his own.
His contributions already mens, his influence will be forever. Haul
Caimania lives on. My condolences to his family and loved ones,
and there's a many like that going out there. The
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separation of Hulk and Terry, I think is legit. Politics
obviously play a role in it lately, and whether you're
on the side or not on the side, I just said,
today is not that day for it, and I just
I refused to go down that road, Mike, and I
understand if you don't like it, but also just have
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some respect. I have some respect for that life in
that career and what meant to so many, And you
pointed out of just of how many wrestlers as as
I'm looking at the Rock Hogan showdown that you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Earlier, that's that's on our screen.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
How many wrestlers were lifted because of what he did
and the groundwork that that he laid. And the other
part of that mic is I understand he also was
a huge benefit. Who wouldn't want to be the biggest
star in the face And there's stuff sure that came
with it, But I would also have to think that
it maybe necessarily think it wasn't always easy, you know,
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like it couldn't always be easy. And you know, I
think was Annie that did the documentary you know, behind
the WCW and they're you know, falling out there. There's
there's all sorts of stories that will be rehashed and
we judicated over the how many you know, till whenever.
But for today, for this twenty four hours, I think
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it's only fair and right to look back at a
figure that meant so much to so many.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, and certainly throughout pop culture we had the rock
and wrestling connection leading up to a WrestleMania one. You
get mister t in obviously they work together in Rocky three,
so it's a big part of that, and it continued
build the whole persona of Thunderlips a lot of TV shows,
a lot of movies, no matter how bad they are,
(09:34):
at some point you just appreciate how bad they are
and how much he really connect beyond the character that
was Hulk Hogan. And that's fine because guess what most
of these guys can't. The Rock is the same guy
and everything he just is and now.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
We're rock catching a stray Geez Harvin, I.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Know, just like Rick Flair baying tribute to Hogan by
talking about the greatness of Ricky Stema. But it's like
all the actors all the way through, and to a man,
they're like, hey, Dave Bautista might end up being the
best of all, which is kind of interesting. But it's
just that kind of thing of you accept it for
what it is, like it or don't. As we quote
Kevin Durant all the time, you don't like it, no,
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watch and move on. Right if it's not your thing,
and it's not to deify things like from a wrestling perspective,
just go back through it. It's like I always thought
the leg drop was kind of lazy, but and it
also caused back injuries and problems, because that's the other
side of all of this.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know, it's just choreographed.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
With that, it's still three hundred pound guys falling some
level distance from the top rope or being thrown around
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
The cumulative effect of that.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like you think about it's like, well, some of these
guys now have contracts where they only work eight days
a year in terms of taking a physical bump, Okay,
they get time to heal. Back then, you didn't Vince
McMahon had you and doing dark matches Monday through Friday.
You had a pay per view once some month, and
then you had Saturday Night Main Event, which is back
(11:04):
now which used to tag in for Saturday Night Live,
where you might have to do an appearance there, and
you're on the road three hundred plus.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Days of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's a different animal. Some of people are still road
warriors the top of the food chain, particularly a guy
like Hogan in his place and sert your equivalent of it.
In today's wwe wouldn't necessarily necessarily have to take the
physical bumps the same way they did. But you watch
the physical toll it took on all of these guys,
And to your point earlier, how few of his contemporaries
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are around even eulogize him, yes, or have their airing
of the grievances if they needed to, because at seventy
one he survived many of them for myriad reasons across
the way. But for today, it's just looking back at
the zeitgeist, the capturing of the imagination, the fact that
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you had a professional wrestler showing up, sitting there with
Regis and Kathy Lee.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Right, you have shorts.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Illustrated, sitcouns and sports illustrated. All of the merchandise that
flowed out. I read off the thing, and you know,
you always take it with a grain of sault in
the Wikipedia world, but one hundred and seventy one different
action figures six time. You know, champion in the wwfwwe
all of the work with WCW, the Tours of Japan
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way back in the day. The fact that he was
a tag team partner of Dennis Rodman fighting against Carl Malone.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I mean, there's so many.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Tough points, just random data points where you're just like, yeah,
I remember that, you know the lean periods, the bulked
up periods, all of that stuff. It's it's just a
rich tapestry, but it's a lifetime, right. This goes back
to me being a little kid in the basement or
watching it in with you know, the Spanish language version
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in the evening while sorting trading cards to do a
show the next day at a convention center in the
Greater Chicago area. It just brings back all those great memories.
My brothers and I we were.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Just sending memes of stuff all throughout.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Here's a clip of the Iron Sheet cursing out Hulk
cogin fifteen years ago. Here's Sergeant Slaughter going out. I
like all of these things, and it's like, for a minute,
I'm a kid, Like I'm not thinking about all right,
the next bill coming from a doctor, the next scheduled
appointment here or there, whatever the doctor's appointment I had today,
which really was not my favorite to steal from my
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child earlier. All of these things like, for a minute,
you just pause and you just go enjoy what you
grew up getting to just be a kid and enjoy.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So I felt, it's about us as much as you
wanted to be about Hulkogan.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's about us, It's about.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Where we were growing up at that time, whatever age
you were, if you were in it, if you were younger,
you may not.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Follow wrestling now, you still were following.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
It at that time. And that's what like, that's what
it's about. That's what I think that today is about.
And it's just it's too bad. Seventy one is a
good life, a lot better than his contemporaries, as we've
talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But you just can't.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
You can't right your childhood like so many people of
our age, mic without hal Kogan.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And it was the biggest of the big Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So I'm gonna go back after we're done with the show,
drive home, make myself my PhD weight loss cappuccino, and
I'm gonna sit there and get back in the gym
in the morning. But until then, it's some more of
those WrestleMania's, as he headlined, what seven of the first eight.
Go back and watch WrestleMania three from the Pontiac Silvernome,
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go back to Madison Square Garden, who put up a
great tribute to him on the Marquee earlier today, and
just think of all those guys that passed through Ted
DIBIASI did an interview with our guys over at AM
five to seventy LA Sports. You can go and check
that out as well, talking about how early on he
had to get Hogan over. That was what he was
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charged to do when Hogan was first coming up, and
then it would eventually get to pay the favor back
when the million dollar man Moniker with Virgil and everything
became a bigger deal. So you know, the Quicken pro quo,
all that greatness that necessarily flows from there, good times,
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with Me Mike Harmon dancing in the studio. Get the
blood flowing. As we rolled through into the late night
here West Coast time on a Thursday into Friday morning,
wherever however you're.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Listening, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Big sports weekend ahead, a lot of rivalry series Dodgers
are in Boston. Like we chronicled yesterday, We'll see if
the Ara Mark and Union issue gets hammered out at
least for a slight reprieve to make sure the money
and beer is flowing.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Ahead of first pitch.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
There we've got Cubs, White Sox, so battle of family
members and friends for me, Dan Brewers.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Who's their rival this weekend? What have they got?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I forget the I saw the schedule earlier, I was like, Oh,
this is gonna be a f it's.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
A cross If it's cross division, it's the Twins. Yeah,
I don't have enough. Oh the start series with the Marlins.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, that's why windows early tomorrow too.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So it's a game day baseball. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'll be sitting probably sleeping through parts of the fantastic
movie that comes out, very excitable, but the girls are
eager to go see it.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
So I gotta be honest, Like, I took two days
off because I had family in town, which is not
two days off. I have no idea what day it is.
It's honestly, I've done that a couple of times today.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, Steve, five.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Percent of today I thought it was Wednesday. Like, I
don't know why.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I just it zero zero and I'm like, God, not
a lot of baseball today. That's probably because it's Thursday.
That's probably why, Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's all right. I mean, in the end, it all
comes out in the wash.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Was there anything on your Thursday that you skipped because
you didn't know it?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I mean like if you missed an appointment or something,
then you know.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Well you know this.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
They're Major League Baseball's having the throwback caps for Hall
of Fame weekend. So you're gonna see a lot of
unique old baseball caps, which I think are pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I always love. I mean, it's the one thing baseball
does better. We'll get to James Franklin ten media days
in a moment. But you see those sweet Blue Jays hats,
the ultra teal I think would be how I described
that Marlin's hat that goes for the center and certainly
going on down the road, the old school bird, the
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classic brown see brown. No matter what we do, Dan,
we can't avoid it, the old San Diego Padres. It
makes me, you know, wax poetic of past conversations with
the late great Tony Gwynn.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I do like that. As you go through the roster.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
On one of the blogs, they have a guy associated with
each cap, and then you got Reggie Jackson with the
old A's Luis Gonzalez becomes the poster child for the
d Backs, the old school classic late sixties Braves with
Hank Aaron and going on down the line.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You mentioned the Marlins, like that's one of the unfortunate
things was when they had that teal helmet or teal hat.
It stood out so much, but then they ended up
in later years just transitioning to the black helmet and
now hat. And because of the Miami Marlins anymore, there's
no more ability to have to go back and have
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the f there because there's in Florida for it. But
you can do it on a throwback weekend like this.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now one I wish they would have gone and done
because mine got filthy because I overused it. I'm not
an Angels guy, but the one that actually had a
halo on top on the top of the cap. So
for this weekend, it's the two thousand and two World
Series team being commemorated. But I'll tell you what, you
tried out that old Nolan Ryan halo hat. I'm there, man,
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let me go.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
The Twins are wearing because I love the Twins in
the TC and I don't mind as much the new
am with their north star above it. Like, that's creative.
But you'll know it when you say it. When you
say that, Kirby Pucket, m that's what they're going to
do this weekend. That like it just screams childhood. He
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was I love the TC. When they went away from it,
I was so disappointed. But the Twins are going to
be rocking that.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Brewers rocking the seventy five Hank Aaron end of his run,
breaking the record. I do like with the Marlins, look
at it, look at shows up, good old shun up.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They found a picture of him not smoking. Okay, he
may have.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Actually, Charlie Hockitch looked like he was sixty eight years
old when he was pitching for the Marlins.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah he did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Legend I think he was in his mid forties.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh yeah, Oh, but.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I didn't think about one of the great things in
pop cultures, the Wilford Brimley line. You have a picture
of him from Cocoon. He was He wasn't even fifty
one years old at that point. Yes, And then you
look at Paul Rudd, you look at some of these
other guys, you look at me. We don't look anywhere
near as old as good old Wilford Brimley, even if
my hairline has crept back just a wee bit, and
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maybe the eyes are a little tired.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I've seen some things. Man.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If I were a cat again, you got to listen
to the whole show. I'd probably be on my seventh life.
But let's start our attention back to the wonderful world
of college football in a moment. But first, why don't
we take a trip over to the news desk one
final time for the night Monziga.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Get out of here, get out of dodge.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Eeow No, just for that, she's gonna do a ten
minute I'm gonna stare at her.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Go.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
You know, it's funny, Dad, when you were like, I
don't know what dat is?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I felt that's so hard.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I know what day is today, But those weeks where
you're out of sync and you're just like, what day
is it today?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And you keep reliving the wrong day?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, and the Brewers play at four o'clock Eastern time tomorrow,
so you're thinking get away day, right, you know?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
So like so yeah, so just or what is what
is tomorrow? In a lot of places across this country already,
what is tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (23:54):
You're right, You're right, all right, guys, we'll start in baseball.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Why not?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Well, the trade deadline is set for Thursday, July thirty first,
so less than a week away six Eastern, and the
Mariners have acquired first baseman Josh Naylor from the Diamondbacks.
The Mariners also played today. They defeated the Angels four
to two, ran Dietro Sarana with the go ahead two
run shot that put them up, and they just cruise
passed the A snapped their four game losing streak. They
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topped the ass Shows five to two. The Cardinals outscored
the Padres nine to seven behind three run home runs
from both Brendan Donovan and Wilson Candreras, while the Blue
Jays cruise passed the Tigers eleven to four. Detroit is
now one to ten in their last eleven games. In
NFL news, the Raiders are releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins,
just one year after he signed a four year, one
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hundred and ten million dollars deal. The team is voiding
his remaining guarantees due to how he has handled his
foot injury rehab. Wilkins is filing a grievance Kansas men's
basketball coach Bill Self was hospitalized and underwent a heart
procedure after feeling unwell and experiencing concerning symptoms. But the
procedure went well and he is currently recovering. When it
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comes to the w NBA, Fever announced that Kaitlin Clark
has no timetable for her return.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
They did another evaluation this weekend.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
They said no additional injuries or damage, but she was
going to continue to rehab with the priority on her
long term health and well being. Indiana did not need
Kaitlin Clark tonight. They beat the Aces eighty to seventy guys.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's been fun more dangerous without her, right, No, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know what's great is we actually did kind of
the tongue in cheek. Yeah, this is going to become
a thing, And then the next day it became a thing.
It became Jason and I just joking about it, and
then all of a sudden, it's like, hey, we spoke that.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
In new existence.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah. No, it goes back to that performative hot take
nonsense thing we were talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I can get some run, I'm gonna take a lot
of heat. But you know what they're gonna know my name.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Are gonna know they are? But no, they're not better
without her. Back to you guys, and now we know
her name, it's dangerous, yeah, jurious. Okay, don't forget the
Tilda on the bide. Tilde Tilda are nice, nicely done, And.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Again, thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I won an award once and upon a time, and
I downloaded my Babbel account. We're gonna be conversing in
Spanish by the end of football season.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Full On podcast do great.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Thanks the Bob Costa Saturday Night Live. Do you remember
San Francisco? No, I gotta go back and look at
Manzi wasn't even born yet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, it's aired, so look as soon as Bob got
up on his soapbox and started telling me everything I
did was wrong after making millions.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Of dollars Caul Cogan haters today, you know, like, let's
you know, let's at least let Costas on SNL.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, well, we'll let them late for the moment. One
last news update. This comes from ad how about a fresca? Yes,
our buddy Jason Smith quote proof there are higher beings
looking out for us. Twenty four Hour White Castle in Michigan.
When you land at eleven twenty seven pm, you can
be there by twelve fourteen am.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So you hasn't been in Michigan this this whole time.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Just I knew he was going at some point this week.
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Now Smith is in the Mitten.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Here's the thing with white Castle. Yeah, because I'm a
picky eater. Again, I eat like a nine year old.
My hamburgers have to be playing and there's just no
way to get a plane hamburger from white Castle, Like
it has to have the onions.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So I just is that right?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yes, well, I would assume, especially like how they make them.
They make like forty at a time, and then you
just cut them up.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And I think you're just going to say, give me
forty of those bad boys with that.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I need to get a whole plane. Just the bun
and the meat, please, That's all that I need. But
then again, it probably wouldn't be white Castle.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
That's a fair point. White Castle was the end of
race night.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
We either went to the place with burritos as big
as our heads or white Castle near Midway Airport, which I.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Don't think is even there anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
I'll tell you, like the eight night window of like
white Castle late night. Sure white Castle isn't everywhere, but
the the we just went to a party where we're
all going that seems like a white Castle thing for
the single guy getting off work late eleven o'clock midnight.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
The Wendy's open light window. Okay, yes, like.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
That was it was game changer, Like it absolutely was,
because usually everything's closed. And I feel like other places,
other places like cashed in on it. But I wonder
if Wendy's is like, well, look, everybody just goes to
white Castle, I would just keep our drive through open.
I feel like Wendy's was one of the first to
do that, and maybe they were inspired by all of
the late night white Castle trips because that was that.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Was all we did.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I mean, it began the what what else is open? Yes,
not a whole lot, and while around that area where
we were for good reason anymore. So let's leave it there.
James Franklin Big ten media days we've been having all
the time.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
I'm going to Wendy's after work.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
By w I'm gonna drive to the border and go
to White Castle near Vegas. Now, I mean I'm out.
Let's go road trip. Who wants to go play some graps?
Let's get happen and maybe we can meet up with
James Franklin. He's mad, he's not. He doesn't have anybody
asking for his autograph in Vegas, so why don't we
get to it. Let's hear from James Franklin about the
fun and challenges of Big ten media.
Speaker 11 (29:23):
A lot of our beat writers did not come to
this because they couldn't.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Afford to get out here. And the majority of our teams.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Are near Chicago, where this used to always be. A
majority of our teams are near Indianapolis where this used
to be, and it.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Creates a different environment.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
I walk around the lobby, I'll see I don't see
any signage, I'll see anything for the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I'll see people getting autographs.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I'll see it's a different vibe, but it's.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
A different feeling.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
I think that other conference, when they have their their meetings,
there's essentially a press conference every single day at the
end of the meetings, keeps people talking about that conference
at a time of the year and makes them relevant.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We're not doing that.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
We need to be talking about the Big Ten and
our programs and the things that we do and making
it as successful to everybody as we possibly can, and
connecting with the Fansroks. I think Vegas is a special place,
and I think they run events as well as anybody,
but it's a different.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you think anybody who was up in jumping up
and down with a sign that said Las Vegas Tourism
At the end when Franklin circles back as if to
remind him, is like, you didn't pay a dime to
come here, and you're still getting your say, everybody's kissing
your ass as you're expected to perform.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well, here's the Vegas sign. They've done us fairly well.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Now it looks on on TV you got these wide
gaps between middle of this massive ass ballroom where they've
set up some of the big ten network tables, and
then you just have what looks like a football fee
to the other media members that are sociated. So it's
got an odd look to it. I get his point though, right.
It's it goes back to that you want to make
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it to where it's an event for your fans. Now
you do a lot in Chicago and certainly Indianapolis. As
you and I have talked about a lot a lot
of events, and I like that it's walkable, Like I
remember the Super Bowl week and the weather cooperated and
all of that was great, but everything was in a
mile square where you can pretty much walk everywhere. That's cool.
Chicago not as much. A little bit of a pain
(31:30):
in the ass getting around with some work, you can
get it. But for Las Vegas, but I guarantee you
the bottom line was they got incentivized heavily to make
it there. You're trying to make it an event into
a into and of itself, and maybe for those diehards
that make it, maybe you don't have critical mass, but
you know, you are still trying to stand out. And
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Las Vegas is well no longer an outpost in some
of these leagues.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's still on the table.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I think that it's it's tricky, especially because of the
old name that it's had. I covered Big Ten basketball
media days. Mikey has at a hotel across the freeway
from O'Hare. Yeah, so everybody flew a You went into
a ballroom at the Hilton and everybody was there. And
it's basketball, So it's a little lesson son as big
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as football was. But still you know, it's a time
where Tom was there, Bo Ryan was there during my time,
so you had notable names and you sat down at
a table and he talked to everyone. That's not necessarily
what this is. Everybody's on a podium. Sure you're doing
the same sort of exercise, but it's more of promote day.
And I think that James Franklin is right with a
(32:38):
lot of stuff. He's right, but he's not right in
essence of I don't think that, like, how does USC, UCLA,
Oregon and Washington feel during the season when they're traveling
across the country and figuring out those things, and and
like that's that's a bigger problem than taking this one
off in July and going around. I get all of
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it points for it, but it's the bed that they
made and the deal with that the Big Ten made
and bringing those four schools in. They played a They've
played a conference basketball tournament in Washington, d C. They've
played one in Madison Square Garden a week earlier because
they didn't want it to conflict with the Big East
Tournament a few years back, but because they wanted the
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New York market. You don't think they're gonna take football
and go to Las Vegas for a couple of days,
which is exactly what they've did. There've been more egregious
things that they have done to try to expand their
footprint than this, and it stinks.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
There's entities that can't afford to do the cross country trip,
especially with if Penn State's got other games out west
that maybe they'll That company's got a budget for all
of that is fair, but it doesn't look at the
big picture of it. I think it's point of fandom
and stuff like that may be fair, but I still
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don't know how much of that goes on. I don't
know how many people are waiting outside for autographs. I
don't think that's necessarily a real thing. So while I
get his gripes for it, I just don't think that
it's necessarily for the media. And by the way, Mike
Media Day, turn on Big ten Network. They've got it
all for you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's covered now. You don't get to ask your individual questions.
Sit down, have a cup of coffee at the table.
This is also an opportunity for the university. If you
think it's that important, there's monies to be had. It
does not cost that much for people that cover you,
particularly the university side of things, to make that up.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Sure, if they felt that that endity needed to go,
but if you felt like people.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Can make this happen, right, you've got people in the organization,
you know what, it would behoove us to have more
people from greater Pennsylvania in that room.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I think I think that's a convenient excuse.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
It's versal. Wasn't there a press conference last year? Or
he didn't want to answer any question?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, he's done that. He's so temperament I.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Aw, he's worried about the So yeah, he's right, but
he's wrong if there's a way that you could put it.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
And it's not just about the media, it's much more
than that.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And as for those other four teams, they made a
choice by blowing up that other conference and deciding, and
so two of them especially, Yeah, so I'm not feeling
terribly terribly bad for them, for some of the athletes.
But again, you're choosing where you go to school, you
know where the If you are already in the school,
then yeah, you're a victim of circumstance as that changes,
But as you're making your decision now or you're in
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the portal potential, you're deciding where you're going.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Well, it makes sense though, because the Big Ten does
have a team in the school in Las Vegas well.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And in pretty much pretty much stayed at this point, Dane.
Maybe they'll take over a U and OL at least
close in Maryland and DC like it makes sense, you know, yeah,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, I mean it's we're adjacent to navas sure, just
a hop is skipping a jolt.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Everybody at LI goes to Vegas anyway, so what's the point.
Maybe that's what they were thinking.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Go sit in the highway for five hours. You'll have
at it. He's Dan Bayer and Dan Byron Fox. Find
me over d zwelling down.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
We'll stay with the Big Ten coaches because now Oregon's
coach wants to raise his hand and say, hey, don't
forget about us.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We're in a pretty good spot. But we like where
we're at. We'll talk.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
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Speaker 4 (00:52):
Dan byer in for Jason Smith tonight.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Jason, we'll be back middle of next week gallivanting in
the Greater state of Michigan.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
We went back and forth a little bit earlier.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Normally we leave each other alone.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Over the course of our travels highways and byways, vacations,
we see enough of each other.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
It's like beat it.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
But over the last week twice they all have been
the circumstance of nah man, you know, one of those
legacy and childhood things. With the passing of Ozzy Osbourne
a few days ago and then today, man, all I
did was run around. I want to I wish I
had a ring where I could have just bounced off
the ropes a while to try to get my head
(01:33):
around the fact that Hulk Hogan Terry Balaya, the uh
super Destroyer there you go, when he wore a mask
and you weren't supposed to know who he was. All
of those things had passed away. You know a bit
of that childhood. You know, it's starting to get sluffed
off here.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Bit by bit.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
I can go full on, you know, take the movie
analogies of say like The Avengers spoiler alert, when they
all get turned to dust off a thano snap.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
I feel like bits of pieces are going to day
after day.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
Heah, yeah, I know where you're coming from. One hundred percent.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
I will say that it is amazing that that we're
sitting here and being like seventy one, considering all of
the guys that he wrestled that are no longer here.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And had been gone a long time for many of them.
Speaker 6 (02:21):
Yes, right, yes, like that's that's part of it, and
I just I can't get away from because now it's
been we're still within twenty four hours of finding out
of his passing. There were I don't want to call
him reports Mike, but there was talk saw some stuff
on TikTok recently on that Hulk Hogan wasn't in good condition.
(02:42):
Didn't know necessarily what was going on with it, but
the news just didn't sound good. Seemed like it was
information that was from a source that wasn't just making
it up that it was, and why would you make
up something like that? But still when it happens, it
hurts now the Ozzie one because of the concert and everything.
(03:04):
There's so many emotions coming up with that mentioned Malcolm
Jamal Warner earlier, and I bring him up again because
of just the shock of it. But I know that
there are many people today who grew up watching The
Cosby Show, listening the Ozzy Osbourne and watching professional wrestling,
and I'm looking at one of them right now that
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are just like, my.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Goodness, how could this happen?
Speaker 6 (03:30):
And you want to look back at all of the
good times in the great times, and with Hulk Hogan
there were a lot of great times in the nineteen
eighties and there were a lot of great times in
the nineteen nineties. There's going to be discourse and discussions
about stuff that's happened recently. But I just think within
this twenty four hours, we have to honor the guy
that so many people were fans of, looked up to,
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just made their life better, allowed them to escape through
the world of wrestling. And the character doesn't even seem right,
but the name of Halkoka Go.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
That's just it right, separating the guy Terry Blaya and
the business side of all of this was somewhere in
between the character and the person. And certainly plenty of
stories from around the ring and behind the scenes and
power plays and whatever else, not terribly different than a
lot of the stuff that goes on in any workplace
(04:27):
of folks trying to climb a ladder or if they're
at the top of the food chain, you know what,
trying to stay there. Right, We've seen all of that
go back through some of the steroid trials, go back
through some of the other issues unionizing and things of
those nature. You can do deep dives on all of that,
plenty of documentaries to be had. Certainly some verbiage that
(04:51):
has resurfaced and has been part of the lexicon today,
not new information, just if you're new to the story
or you decide to as I like to call it.
You know, it's the theater of all of this in
our greater media world, and with everybody now having the
lower case jay for journalism with it as long as
(05:13):
armed with a phone and a social media account to
where it becomes a if I say something really outrageous
and pick at this, this or this, I can get
huge engagement. And certainly with Hulk Hogan, a lot of
folks were blissfully ignorant of some of the other things.
Doesn't mean they didn't happen, But for the purpose of today,
you're talking about a lot of people whose livelihoods spawned
(05:37):
from it.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Who owe back to it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
All the wrestlers who had personal beef with several of
the instances that I'm talking about here, recognize like Brunus
the barber Beefcake. Yes he's still out there people, and
he still has his scissors.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
They never reconciled.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
They had a falling out years ago, It's been chronicled
in many interviews. Anything first thing he put up, it's like,
I love this man a lot of time together. I'm
sorry we didn't get to heal our rift before he passed,
and put up just as many photos of the two
of them together in different circumstances down in clear Water,
in the larger Tampa area where many of them call
(06:13):
home and everything else. So today I'm celebrating like I'm
ten and eleven watching Saturday Morning Wrestling WrestleMania, our first outing.
If you miss that story, get the podcast. It's one
that my brother's like, yeah, you captured that.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Well.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You can actually speak once in a while to which,
like with my mom and the White Sox raise game yesterday,
might have got.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
A middle finger EMODEI back there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
General direction, but just the idea of the sentimentality of it,
of you know, you long for those spaces which are
fewer and farther between as you get older. Right, you
got parents going through stuff, relatives going through stuff, people
that you're working with, your friends, all of these different things,
not to mention the world at large that don't allow
you to calm your mind for five minutes. But when
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you have an opportunity like here to touch back like
I did with Ozzy songs. I'm like, oh, remember when
he covered this whatever, Hey Hogan, remember this battle against
the Rock? Remember this, remember the nWo that you have
a laugh and you can reconnect with just that boyhood
if it's even if it's fleeting, it takes you out
(07:23):
of your headspace for some of the other negativity.
Speaker 6 (07:25):
Steve Stunt called Steve Austin who wrote Haul Cogan was
born to be a professional wrestler larger than live charisma.
For days, he was in a stratosphere all on his own.
His contributions already mens, his influence will be forever. Haul
Caimania lives on. My condolences to his family and loved ones,
and there's a many like that going out there. The
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separation of Hulk and Terry, I think is legit. Politics
obviously play a role in it lately, and whether you're
on the side or not on the side, I just said,
today is not that day for it, and I just
I refused to go down that road, Mike, and I
understand if you don't like it, but also just have
(08:07):
some respect. I have some respect for that life in
that career and what meant to so many, And you
pointed out of just of how many wrestlers as as
I'm looking at the Rock Hogan showdown that you mentioned.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
Earlier, that's that's on our screen.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
How many wrestlers were lifted because of what he did
and the groundwork that that he laid. And the other
part of that mic is I understand he also was
a huge benefit. Who wouldn't want to be the biggest
star in the face And there's stuff sure that came
with it, But I would also have to think that
it maybe necessarily think it wasn't always easy, you know,
(08:45):
like it couldn't always be easy. And you know, I
think was Annie that did the documentary you know, behind
the WCW and they're you know, falling out there. There's
there's all sorts of stories that will be rehashed and
we judicated over the how many you know, till whenever.
But for today, for this twenty four hours, I think
(09:07):
it's only fair and right to look back at a
figure that meant so much to so many.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, and certainly throughout pop culture we had the rock
and wrestling connection leading up to a WrestleMania one. You
get mister t in obviously they work together in Rocky three,
so it's a big part of that, and it continued
build the whole persona of Thunderlips a lot of TV shows,
a lot of movies, no matter how bad they are,
(09:34):
at some point you just appreciate how bad they are
and how much he really connect beyond the character that
was Hulk Hogan. And that's fine because guess what most
of these guys can't. The Rock is the same guy
and everything he just is and now.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
We're rock catching a stray Geez Harvin, I.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Know, just like Rick Flair baying tribute to Hogan by
talking about the greatness of Ricky Stema. But it's like
all the actors all the way through, and to a man,
they're like, hey, Dave Bautista might end up being the
best of all, which is kind of interesting. But it's
just that kind of thing of you accept it for
what it is, like it or don't. As we quote
Kevin Durant all the time, you don't like it, no,
(10:15):
watch and move on. Right if it's not your thing,
and it's not to deify things like from a wrestling perspective,
just go back through it. It's like I always thought
the leg drop was kind of lazy, but and it
also caused back injuries and problems, because that's the other
side of all of this.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know, it's just choreographed.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
With that, it's still three hundred pound guys falling some
level distance from the top rope or being thrown around
or whatever.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
The cumulative effect of that.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Like you think about it's like, well, some of these
guys now have contracts where they only work eight days
a year in terms of taking a physical bump, Okay,
they get time to heal. Back then, you didn't Vince
McMahon had you and doing dark matches Monday through Friday.
You had a pay per view once some month, and
then you had Saturday Night Main Event, which is back
(11:04):
now which used to tag in for Saturday Night Live,
where you might have to do an appearance there, and
you're on the road three hundred plus.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Days of the year.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
It's a different animal. Some of people are still road
warriors the top of the food chain, particularly a guy
like Hogan in his place and sert your equivalent of it.
In today's wwe wouldn't necessarily necessarily have to take the
physical bumps the same way they did. But you watch
the physical toll it took on all of these guys,
And to your point earlier, how few of his contemporaries
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are around even eulogize him, yes, or have their airing
of the grievances if they needed to, because at seventy
one he survived many of them for myriad reasons across
the way. But for today, it's just looking back at
the zeitgeist, the capturing of the imagination, the fact that
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you had a professional wrestler showing up, sitting there with
Regis and Kathy Lee.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Right, you have shorts.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Illustrated, sitcouns and sports illustrated. All of the merchandise that
flowed out. I read off the thing, and you know,
you always take it with a grain of sault in
the Wikipedia world, but one hundred and seventy one different
action figures six time. You know, champion in the wwfwwe
all of the work with WCW, the Tours of Japan
(12:27):
way back in the day. The fact that he was
a tag team partner of Dennis Rodman fighting against Carl Malone.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
I mean, there's so many.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Tough points, just random data points where you're just like, yeah,
I remember that, you know the lean periods, the bulked
up periods, all of that stuff. It's it's just a
rich tapestry, but it's a lifetime, right. This goes back
to me being a little kid in the basement or
watching it in with you know, the Spanish language version
(12:57):
in the evening while sorting trading cards to do a
show the next day at a convention center in the
Greater Chicago area. It just brings back all those great memories.
My brothers and I we were.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Just sending memes of stuff all throughout.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Here's a clip of the Iron Sheet cursing out Hulk
cogin fifteen years ago. Here's Sergeant Slaughter going out. I
like all of these things, and it's like, for a minute,
I'm a kid, Like I'm not thinking about all right,
the next bill coming from a doctor, the next scheduled
appointment here or there, whatever the doctor's appointment I had today,
which really was not my favorite to steal from my
(13:33):
child earlier. All of these things like, for a minute,
you just pause and you just go enjoy what you
grew up getting to just be a kid and enjoy.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
So I felt, it's about us as much as you
wanted to be about Hulkogan.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
It's about us, It's about.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
Where we were growing up at that time, whatever age
you were, if you were in it, if you were younger,
you may not.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
Follow wrestling now, you still were following.
Speaker 6 (14:00):
It at that time. And that's what like, that's what
it's about. That's what I think that today is about.
And it's just it's too bad. Seventy one is a
good life, a lot better than his contemporaries, as we've
talked about.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But you just can't.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
You can't right your childhood like so many people of
our age, mic without hal Kogan.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
And it was the biggest of the big Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
So I'm gonna go back after we're done with the show,
drive home, make myself my PhD weight loss cappuccino, and
I'm gonna sit there and get back in the gym
in the morning. But until then, it's some more of
those WrestleMania's, as he headlined, what seven of the first eight.
Go back and watch WrestleMania three from the Pontiac Silvernome,
(14:50):
go back to Madison Square Garden, who put up a
great tribute to him on the Marquee earlier today, and
just think of all those guys that passed through Ted
DIBIASI did an interview with our guys over at AM
five to seventy LA Sports. You can go and check
that out as well, talking about how early on he
had to get Hogan over. That was what he was
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charged to do when Hogan was first coming up, and
then it would eventually get to pay the favor back
when the million dollar man Moniker with Virgil and everything
became a bigger deal. So you know, the Quicken pro quo,
all that greatness that necessarily flows from there, good times,
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Speaker 4 (16:13):
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smit Show
with Me Mike Harmon dancing in the studio. Get the
blood flowing. As we rolled through into the late night
here West Coast time on a Thursday into Friday morning,
wherever however you're.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
Listening, thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
Big sports weekend ahead, a lot of rivalry series Dodgers
are in Boston. Like we chronicled yesterday, We'll see if
the Ara Mark and Union issue gets hammered out at
least for a slight reprieve to make sure the money
and beer is flowing.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
Ahead of first pitch.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
There we've got Cubs, White Sox, so battle of family
members and friends for me, Dan Brewers.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Who's their rival this weekend? What have they got?
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I forget the I saw the schedule earlier, I was like, Oh,
this is gonna be a f it's.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
A cross If it's cross division, it's the Twins. Yeah,
I don't have enough. Oh the start series with the Marlins.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Yeah, that's why windows early tomorrow too.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
So it's a game day baseball. It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I'll be sitting probably sleeping through parts of the fantastic
movie that comes out, very excitable, but the girls are
eager to go see it.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
So I gotta be honest, Like, I took two days
off because I had family in town, which is not
two days off. I have no idea what day it is.
It's honestly, I've done that a couple of times today.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, Steve, five.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Percent of today I thought it was Wednesday. Like, I
don't know why.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
I just it zero zero and I'm like, God, not
a lot of baseball today. That's probably because it's Thursday.
That's probably why, Mike.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's all right. I mean, in the end, it all
comes out in the wash.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Was there anything on your Thursday that you skipped because
you didn't know it?
Speaker 7 (19:39):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:39):
I mean like if you missed an appointment or something,
then you know.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
Well you know this.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
They're Major League Baseball's having the throwback caps for Hall
of Fame weekend. So you're gonna see a lot of
unique old baseball caps, which I think are pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
I always love. I mean, it's the one thing baseball
does better. We'll get to James Franklin ten media days
in a moment. But you see those sweet Blue Jays hats,
the ultra teal I think would be how I described
that Marlin's hat that goes for the center and certainly
going on down the road, the old school bird, the
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classic brown see brown. No matter what we do, Dan,
we can't avoid it, the old San Diego Padres. It
makes me, you know, wax poetic of past conversations with
the late great Tony Gwynn.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
I do like that. As you go through the roster.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
On one of the blogs, they have a guy associated with
each cap, and then you got Reggie Jackson with the
old A's Luis Gonzalez becomes the poster child for the
d Backs, the old school classic late sixties Braves with
Hank Aaron and going on down the line.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
You mentioned the Marlins, like that's one of the unfortunate
things was when they had that teal helmet or teal hat.
It stood out so much, but then they ended up
in later years just transitioning to the black helmet and
now hat. And because of the Miami Marlins anymore, there's
no more ability to have to go back and have
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the f there because there's in Florida for it. But
you can do it on a throwback weekend like this.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Now one I wish they would have gone and done
because mine got filthy because I overused it. I'm not
an Angels guy, but the one that actually had a
halo on top on the top of the cap. So
for this weekend, it's the two thousand and two World
Series team being commemorated. But I'll tell you what, you
tried out that old Nolan Ryan halo hat. I'm there, man,
(21:42):
let me go.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
The Twins are wearing because I love the Twins in
the TC and I don't mind as much the new
am with their north star above it. Like, that's creative.
But you'll know it when you say it. When you
say that, Kirby Pucket, m that's what they're going to
do this weekend. That like it just screams childhood. He
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was I love the TC. When they went away from it,
I was so disappointed. But the Twins are going to
be rocking that.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Brewers rocking the seventy five Hank Aaron end of his run,
breaking the record. I do like with the Marlins, look
at it, look at shows up, good old shun up.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
They found a picture of him not smoking. Okay, he
may have.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Actually, Charlie Hockitch looked like he was sixty eight years
old when he was pitching for the Marlins.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
Yeah he did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Legend I think he was in his mid forties.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Oh yeah, Oh, but.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I didn't think about one of the great things in
pop cultures, the Wilford Brimley line. You have a picture
of him from Cocoon. He was He wasn't even fifty
one years old at that point. Yes, And then you
look at Paul Rudd, you look at some of these
other guys, you look at me. We don't look anywhere
near as old as good old Wilford Brimley, even if
my hairline has crept back just a wee bit, and
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maybe the eyes are a little tired.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
I've seen some things. Man.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
If I were a cat again, you got to listen
to the whole show. I'd probably be on my seventh life.
But let's start our attention back to the wonderful world
of college football in a moment. But first, why don't
we take a trip over to the news desk one
final time for the night Monziga.
Speaker 5 (23:19):
Get out of here, get out of dodge.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Eeow No, just for that, she's gonna do a ten
minute I'm gonna stare at her.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Go.
Speaker 9 (23:27):
You know, it's funny, Dad, when you were like, I
don't know what dat is?
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I felt that's so hard.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I know what day is today, But those weeks where
you're out of sync and you're just like, what day
is it today?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
And you keep reliving the wrong day?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Yeah, and the Brewers play at four o'clock Eastern time tomorrow,
so you're thinking get away day, right, you know?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
So like so yeah, so just or what is what
is tomorrow? In a lot of places across this country already,
what is tomorrow?
Speaker 9 (23:54):
You're right, You're right, all right, guys, we'll start in baseball.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Why not?
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Well, the trade deadline is set for Thursday, July thirty first,
so less than a week away six Eastern, and the
Mariners have acquired first baseman Josh Naylor from the Diamondbacks.
The Mariners also played today. They defeated the Angels four
to two, ran Dietro Sarana with the go ahead two
run shot that put them up, and they just cruise
passed the A snapped their four game losing streak. They
(24:18):
topped the ass Shows five to two. The Cardinals outscored
the Padres nine to seven behind three run home runs
from both Brendan Donovan and Wilson Candreras, while the Blue
Jays cruise passed the Tigers eleven to four. Detroit is
now one to ten in their last eleven games. In
NFL news, the Raiders are releasing defensive tackle Christian Wilkins,
just one year after he signed a four year, one
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hundred and ten million dollars deal. The team is voiding
his remaining guarantees due to how he has handled his
foot injury rehab. Wilkins is filing a grievance Kansas men's
basketball coach Bill Self was hospitalized and underwent a heart
procedure after feeling unwell and experiencing concerning symptoms. But the
procedure went well and he is currently recovering. When it
(25:00):
comes to the w NBA, Fever announced that Kaitlin Clark
has no timetable for her return.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
They did another evaluation this weekend.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
They said no additional injuries or damage, but she was
going to continue to rehab with the priority on her
long term health and well being. Indiana did not need
Kaitlin Clark tonight. They beat the Aces eighty to seventy guys.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's been fun more dangerous without her, right, No, so stupid.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
You know what's great is we actually did kind of
the tongue in cheek. Yeah, this is going to become
a thing, And then the next day it became a thing.
It became Jason and I just joking about it, and
then all of a sudden, it's like, hey, we spoke that.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
In new existence.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah. No, it goes back to that performative hot take
nonsense thing we were talking about.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
I can get some run, I'm gonna take a lot
of heat. But you know what they're gonna know my name.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Are gonna know they are? But no, they're not better
without her. Back to you guys, and now we know
her name, it's dangerous, yeah, jurious. Okay, don't forget the
Tilda on the bide. Tilde Tilda are nice, nicely done, And.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Again, thank you so much for sharing that.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
I won an award once and upon a time, and
I downloaded my Babbel account. We're gonna be conversing in
Spanish by the end of football season.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Full On podcast do great.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
Thanks the Bob Costa Saturday Night Live. Do you remember
San Francisco? No, I gotta go back and look at
Manzi wasn't even born yet.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, it's aired, so look as soon as Bob got
up on his soapbox and started telling me everything I
did was wrong after making millions.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Of dollars Caul Cogan haters today, you know, like, let's
you know, let's at least let Costas on SNL.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Okay, well, we'll let them late for the moment. One
last news update. This comes from ad how about a fresca? Yes,
our buddy Jason Smith quote proof there are higher beings
looking out for us. Twenty four Hour White Castle in Michigan.
When you land at eleven twenty seven pm, you can
be there by twelve fourteen am.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
There you go.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
So you hasn't been in Michigan this this whole time.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Just I knew he was going at some point this week.
I didn't know.
Speaker 5 (27:14):
Now Smith is in the Mitten.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
Here's the thing with white Castle. Yeah, because I'm a
picky eater. Again, I eat like a nine year old.
My hamburgers have to be playing and there's just no
way to get a plane hamburger from white Castle, Like
it has to have the onions.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
So I just is that right?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Yes, well, I would assume, especially like how they make them.
They make like forty at a time, and then you
just cut them up.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
And I think you're just going to say, give me
forty of those bad boys with that.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
I need to get a whole plane. Just the bun
and the meat, please, That's all that I need. But
then again, it probably wouldn't be white Castle.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
That's a fair point. White Castle was the end of
race night.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
We either went to the place with burritos as big
as our heads or white Castle near Midway Airport, which I.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Don't think is even there anymore.
Speaker 6 (27:57):
I'll tell you, like the eight night window of like
white Castle late night. Sure white Castle isn't everywhere, but
the the we just went to a party where we're
all going that seems like a white Castle thing for
the single guy getting off work late eleven o'clock midnight.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
The Wendy's open light window. Okay, yes, like.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
That was it was game changer, Like it absolutely was,
because usually everything's closed. And I feel like other places,
other places like cashed in on it. But I wonder
if Wendy's is like, well, look, everybody just goes to
white Castle, I would just keep our drive through open.
I feel like Wendy's was one of the first to
do that, and maybe they were inspired by all of
the late night white Castle trips because that was that.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Was all we did.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I mean, it began the what what else is open? Yes,
not a whole lot, and while around that area where
we were for good reason anymore. So let's leave it there.
James Franklin Big ten media days we've been having all
the time.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
I'm going to Wendy's after work.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
By w I'm gonna drive to the border and go
to White Castle near Vegas. Now, I mean I'm out.
Let's go road trip. Who wants to go play some graps?
Let's get happen and maybe we can meet up with
James Franklin. He's mad, he's not. He doesn't have anybody
asking for his autograph in Vegas, so why don't we
get to it. Let's hear from James Franklin about the
fun and challenges of Big ten media.
Speaker 11 (29:23):
A lot of our beat writers did not come to
this because they couldn't.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
Afford to get out here. And the majority of our teams.
Speaker 11 (29:31):
Are near Chicago, where this used to always be. A
majority of our teams are near Indianapolis where this used
to be, and it.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
Creates a different environment.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
I walk around the lobby, I'll see I don't see
any signage, I'll see anything for the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
I'll see people getting autographs.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I'll see it's a different vibe, but it's.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
A different feeling.
Speaker 11 (29:50):
I think that other conference, when they have their their meetings,
there's essentially a press conference every single day at the
end of the meetings, keeps people talking about that conference
at a time of the year and makes them relevant.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We're not doing that.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
We need to be talking about the Big Ten and
our programs and the things that we do and making
it as successful to everybody as we possibly can, and
connecting with the Fansroks. I think Vegas is a special place,
and I think they run events as well as anybody,
but it's a different.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
Do you think anybody who was up in jumping up
and down with a sign that said Las Vegas Tourism
At the end when Franklin circles back as if to
remind him, is like, you didn't pay a dime to
come here, and you're still getting your say, everybody's kissing
your ass as you're expected to perform.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Well, here's the Vegas sign. They've done us fairly well.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
Now it looks on on TV you got these wide
gaps between middle of this massive ass ballroom where they've
set up some of the big ten network tables, and
then you just have what looks like a football fee
to the other media members that are sociated. So it's
got an odd look to it. I get his point though, right.
It's it goes back to that you want to make
(31:09):
it to where it's an event for your fans. Now
you do a lot in Chicago and certainly Indianapolis. As
you and I have talked about a lot a lot
of events, and I like that it's walkable, Like I
remember the Super Bowl week and the weather cooperated and
all of that was great, but everything was in a
mile square where you can pretty much walk everywhere. That's cool.
Chicago not as much. A little bit of a pain
(31:30):
in the ass getting around with some work, you can
get it. But for Las Vegas, but I guarantee you
the bottom line was they got incentivized heavily to make
it there. You're trying to make it an event into
a into and of itself, and maybe for those diehards
that make it, maybe you don't have critical mass, but
you know, you are still trying to stand out. And
(31:51):
Las Vegas is well no longer an outpost in some
of these leagues.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's still on the table.
Speaker 6 (31:57):
I think that it's it's tricky, especially because of the
old name that it's had. I covered Big Ten basketball
media days. Mikey has at a hotel across the freeway
from O'Hare. Yeah, so everybody flew a You went into
a ballroom at the Hilton and everybody was there. And
it's basketball, So it's a little lesson son as big
(32:18):
as football was. But still you know, it's a time
where Tom was there, Bo Ryan was there during my time,
so you had notable names and you sat down at
a table and he talked to everyone. That's not necessarily
what this is. Everybody's on a podium. Sure you're doing
the same sort of exercise, but it's more of promote day.
And I think that James Franklin is right with a
(32:38):
lot of stuff. He's right, but he's not right in
essence of I don't think that, like, how does USC, UCLA,
Oregon and Washington feel during the season when they're traveling
across the country and figuring out those things, and and
like that's that's a bigger problem than taking this one
off in July and going around. I get all of
(32:59):
it points for it, but it's the bed that they
made and the deal with that the Big Ten made
and bringing those four schools in. They played a They've
played a conference basketball tournament in Washington, d C. They've
played one in Madison Square Garden a week earlier because
they didn't want it to conflict with the Big East
Tournament a few years back, but because they wanted the
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New York market. You don't think they're gonna take football
and go to Las Vegas for a couple of days,
which is exactly what they've did. There've been more egregious
things that they have done to try to expand their
footprint than this, and it stinks.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
I get it.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
There's entities that can't afford to do the cross country trip,
especially with if Penn State's got other games out west
that maybe they'll That company's got a budget for all
of that is fair, but it doesn't look at the
big picture of it. I think it's point of fandom
and stuff like that may be fair, but I still
(33:55):
don't know how much of that goes on. I don't
know how many people are waiting outside for autographs. I
don't think that's necessarily a real thing. So while I
get his gripes for it, I just don't think that
it's necessarily for the media. And by the way, Mike
Media Day, turn on Big ten Network. They've got it
all for you.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's covered now. You don't get to ask your individual questions.
Sit down, have a cup of coffee at the table.
This is also an opportunity for the university. If you
think it's that important, there's monies to be had. It
does not cost that much for people that cover you,
particularly the university side of things, to make that up.
Speaker 6 (34:32):
Sure, if they felt that that endity needed to go,
but if you felt like people.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Can make this happen, right, you've got people in the organization,
you know what, it would behoove us to have more
people from greater Pennsylvania in that room.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
I think I think that's a convenient excuse.
Speaker 6 (34:48):
It's versal. Wasn't there a press conference last year? Or
he didn't want to answer any question?
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Yeah, he's done that. He's so temperament I.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Aw, he's worried about the So yeah, he's right, but
he's wrong if there's a way that you could put it.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
And it's not just about the media, it's much more
than that.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And as for those other four teams, they made a
choice by blowing up that other conference and deciding, and
so two of them especially, Yeah, so I'm not feeling
terribly terribly bad for them, for some of the athletes.
But again, you're choosing where you go to school, you
know where the If you are already in the school,
then yeah, you're a victim of circumstance as that changes,
But as you're making your decision now or you're in
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the portal potential, you're deciding where you're going.
Speaker 6 (35:29):
Well, it makes sense though, because the Big Ten does
have a team in the school in Las Vegas well.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And in pretty much pretty much stayed at this point, Dane.
Maybe they'll take over a U and OL at least
close in Maryland and DC like it makes sense, you know, yeah,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Well, I mean it's we're adjacent to navas sure, just
a hop is skipping a jolt.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Everybody at LI goes to Vegas anyway, so what's the point.
Maybe that's what they were thinking.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Go sit in the highway for five hours. You'll have
at it. He's Dan Bayer and Dan Byron Fox. Find
me over d zwelling down.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
We'll stay with the Big Ten coaches because now Oregon's
coach wants to raise his hand and say, hey, don't
forget about us.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
We're in a pretty good spot. But we like where
we're at. We'll talk.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
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