December 3, 2022 • 27 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon discuss the Texas Rangers making a big splash for Jacob deGrom but at what price? The Lakers seem to be getting the version of Anthony Davis they expected to have and the guys wonder what made Davis flip that switch. Plus, Utah beat USC in the Pac-12 championship causing potential ruckus in college football!
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You know, I think that's the best. Can we hear
from Allen again? Tell Alan, let's just run that on
a loop. That's pretty good? Did did we ever? Find
that clip of Jason from this afternoon. Oh, now that
you speak of it, my god, should we play it
like now or should we wait like a couple of
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minutes for Jason to set it up? Okay, let's wait
for Jason. First of all? Is it I will say this?
Is it cleaned up? No? I mean it's cleaned up
enough for us to play now that it's ten o'clock. Yeah, alright,
you were really really mad when this signing went down,
you know, would not describe it. But it's got like
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two and twenty thousand views already, so you're doing good
on Twitter. Good for you to monetize that. All right,
I gotta try to do that. I gotta, I gotta.
I gotta sink that to an advertise with a subcude.
So Jacob deGrom is gone. He has no longer a Met.
He is now a Texas Ranger signing a five year,
five million dollar deal with the Rangers, is shooting the Mets.
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And now he's gone. And I know, thank you for
asking about me, Thank you for I am fine. I
am okay. Number one, Yes, I told you this summer
it was my long goodbye to Jacob deGrom. He was
going to leave after this year, and with what we
found out about this story right months ago, he didn't
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want to stay. He wasn't going to stay. He wanted
to leave right. The same thing what I told you
was gonna happen with Aaron Judge and Jacob deGrom is
happening right. Both teams don't want to make it look like, well,
we can't go after our franchise players. Want to make
sure we're looking like we're giving an effort to keep them.
So what did I say was going to happen very
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early in free agency, Yankees Mets are gonna make their
offers to Gram and to Aaron Judge where if they
took them, great, we'd love to keep you. It's awesome.
But more than likely they were gonna say no because
they were gonna get more money someplace else. And the
Mets and the Yankees would say, we tried, but they
wanted more money, and we have to figure out the
rest of the team. Don't get mad at us, and
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the fans would understand, the team would understand, the rest
of the organization would understand. But that was the whole plan.
It's the plan with er. It's why the eight year,
three million dollar contract was leaked for for Judge. Why
why does that need to be out there? Because the
Giants are preparing their offer and they know if they
go with an extra year, an extra sixty million dollars
are and Judge is gonna be a San Francisco Giant.
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What happened with the Mets and to Grab? What did
we find out tonight? The Mets offered to Grom a
three year deal in the hundred and twenty million dollar ring,
so about what they paid Max Scher's or a year ago.
It wasn't very shortly after that where de Grom got
the offer from the Rangers and the Mets, according to
the New York Post, only found out he was going
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to the Rangers right before it was announced. So it's
not like to Grab came back to the Mets and said, hey,
this is their offer. Can you get back this was?
This is your offer? Okay, this is the offer. I'm
going with the Rangers. I told you this was gonna
happen because number one, the Mets new giving to Grab
all kinds of money for five six years doesn't work.
The guy's thirty five years. I love to Grab. He's great,
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but he's gonna be thirty five, he can't stay healthy,
and he's a bonus guy. The Mets won a hundred
games and he was a ghost this year. They can't
give him money and expect to count on him. Nobody
the Rangers can't expect to count on him. But they said,
we don't care because we're the Rangers. What does it matter.
It's like it's not even money. It's like it's just
printed on on on the backup pizza boxes. Money you're
paying when you go to the Texas Rangers. It doesn't matter, right,
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But what did I say? Forget about that for a second.
Do you really think the Gram wants to stay? He
Brody van Waggon in four years ago, right, he was undervalued.
He could have got more money, brodieven. The only good
thing Brody van wagon It did was bringing Jacob de
Gram at less than he could have gotten somewhere else.
Every word out of de Gram this year was I'm
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opting out at the end of the year. I'm opting out.
I'm opting out, which fine, because you know you're gonna
get more money. I'm opting out at the end of
the year. Not once did he publicly say I want
to stay I want to be a Met. What is
the only thing you heard throughout this entire time on
de Gram has told friends, has told teammates, and if
the money is close, I want to stay a Met.
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Nothing public from him, nothing, I want to stay. Nothing.
I hope it can be worked out, but if it doesn't,
I can go someplace else. He was always going to leave,
and the fact that this is how it went. The
Mets made him a pretty good offer, he got a
better offer and said, that's what I want. There's no haggling,
there's no back and forth. So let me go back
to the Mets and come back here. The Rangers can
wait another day before he decided to take their money
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or not. De Gram was always going to leave. The
Mets were always going to give him a somewhat half
hearted offer, but de Graham was always going to leave.
It's like two people that know they're going to break
up and and and you kind of want to be
the bad guy to say, well, I'm the one push.
It's like we go both kind of you both kind
of do the bare minimum possible to make it seem
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like you want to stay together. That was the Mets
and to grob Hey, we'll offer you this kind of buddy,
know what, you're gonna take it someplace else to Grob
knows I'm gonna get at someplace else. But I'll listen
to your first offer, and I'm leaving. This was always
going to happen. If you know what, the Mets are
better off because you can go to Texas, make your
twelve or fourteen starts a year and see how it goes.
You're not gonna suddenly get healthier at thirty four, thirty
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five years old. Good luck the Mets. Good to do this.
I'm okay with it. Okay, yeah. I think part of
it goes down to the legacy type contracts, because we
we lament them, were debate them. Where's the useful money?
Where's the right thank you for a job either well
done for a short period or just done because the
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contract runs out, depending on where you're at in that timeline,
right from the Cabreras to the Poolholes to the Rendos
and all the way down the line with Jake up
to Grom. Could you have paid him this money and
just said all right, we're hopeful to get two good
years and really push our window because we'll have him
for eighteen starts or whatever the case may be, and
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we can move forward. Sure, but when when you get
into the language playing it in the press, I think
enough guys have learned that you're not winning, no no
matter what your your verbiage is. At this point, like
with Aaron Judge, where's the win? Alright, just gotta say,
you know, I'm hopeful it works out. And that's as
nebulous it could be with de Gram a little bit less,
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but all right, the balls in the team's court. And
I would think for the fans that would be mad
about it. They're looking at the team. No matter what,
you got money. The lie to me you got money.
I know you got money. They keep talking always, but
that's always money in the banana stand. Remember that. So
you have the situation with Kramov, right, you're absolutely right.
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It could be two years, could be one more year
until he falls off a cliff and now has to
become a sixth inning set up guy to continue his career.
I don't can you imagine coming out of the bulpen,
Jacob Degram, He's getting paid forty three million dollars this
year to pitch the sixth living. Yeah, it's it's a
little bit of the uh sarcasm dripping from the mouth.
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But it's like, I'll be damned if I'm giving you
a forty three million dollars and saying goodbye to you.
Uh that way right, you know it's out of spite.
You're gonna at least still be on the staff. But
for both he and going back to Aaron Judge, you know,
you try to consider all the different component parts because
you've each made good money. Judge, this is the one
that is obviously the I'm gonna build homes. For de
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gram it's it's one more monster deal in his career
as he's already thirty four. So you decide how much
does the cash make sense? For de Gram member, he
saves that nine to ten percent, right, state income tax
goes out the window, so they're a nice raise. So
maybe maybe that's the difference. Maybe Colin wouldn't come up
the extra again, the extra twenty million to offset that
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over the five years, how about that? But for Judge,
some of the same rationale when you go into the
dollars and cents, but you're also trying to look at
where can I win. I mean, for de Graham may
maybe just kind of shrugs. It's like, that's not in
the cards for me. I'm gonna go take the cash.
Now that he's thirty, coming off the monster season that
he had, he's looking around. It's like, all right, I
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want to win consistently as well. But there's also the numbers.
If I put up quality home run numbers over the
five to seven years. Now we're talking about immortality and
these Hall of Fame voting things that we're getting from
these committees and all that. My name goes up the
that ladder, So you know, those things are running concurrently.
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And look, the Almighty Dollar probably wins out ninety nine
out of a hundred times. But I like to think
about the the sanctity of the game. I haven't said
that in a while, So I really worked my way
to to get to that end game. Now, look, now,
I just honestly that what kind of about this is
not just that you know, look, the Mets didn't have
to pay him this money, but he didn't go to
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the Braves. That's right, the resounding Rangers. Where are you
gonna do the least damage to me possible? Oh, the Rangers.
The Rangers is about the answer of that. Good luck
and you're also taking yourself off the radar unless something
really strange happens. Right, Not only is he not making
himself relevant, you're also not covetous of whatever he's doing
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because it's not leaving anything playing for the Texas Rangers. Now,
Frostburg has had some time now that Jason smiths with
Mike Harmon live from the tirect dot com studios, he's
had some time. He has cleaned up the audio of
of what I put on social media right after Jake. Guys,
this was Jason when the GRAM signing went down, and
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he was not happy at all. America, take a listen.
This is gonna happen. Is gonna good. It's gonna be
a good day day, know you. That's what I don't like.
The cowards. Not on the other broadcast they say it
isn't just that they're gonna get the pitching or quilling down.
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No days, it's gone to God. Speaking of rough, he'll
be fighting every day and center fail have rough navvy kids.
I'm gonna think a mos this offseason. Nothing, it's still
still will you know if they got shorter last year,
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but no, they do dol ship to seat you at
the h and they quote the wrong didn't rough under
wrong again. Jo, Listen and you say you're okay, You're
not okay. No, listen. Do you think I spent too
much time talking about Terran Roughs? I think maybe I
should have talked more about to grab on that. You
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are not okay, buddy. But that's the whole point. You
were so unhinged you forgot what you were starting your
rant about. Yeah no, but but seriously, part of why
I'm really okay because he didn't go to the Braves
because if not now would change things a ton going.
Oh my god, Now I know he's now. I know
he's gonna be healthy. He's gonna make thirty five starts
a year. He's gonna go twenty five and five. E
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r A is gonna be one point oh eight. Oh,
it's gonna be. He hasn't signed the paper yet. There's time,
he's arranged. He's a ranger. He Twitter and how about
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the odds on favorite to win the World Series. Who
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crossing stop because trains can't It has been a huge
Friday night, usc has fallen. College football playoff is in chaos.
Joining us now on the hotline for more on this
and other big stories. Our insider in Las Vegas, former
odds maker at Caesar's. Check him out the Bet the
Board podcast. You can see him on CBS. He was
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at the Pack twelve championship game tonight in Vegas. He
caught four passes from Caleb Williams in the second half
for seventy six yards of a touchdown. It is Vegas
insider Todd firm and talk what's happening, and Buddy, I
didn't catch four passes from Kayleb Williams operating on one
hamstring at the latter portions of that game. But I
can tell you I would have missed about the same
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tackles as many tackles as the USC defenders did in
the second half trying to slow down that Utah offense.
You know, I want to say for you know, honestly,
this is I'm being honest stuff. I want to say
thank you because tuting in tonight watching USC and Utah,
knowing that there were big stakes involved. Right Pack twelve.
After dark, USC wins, they go to the College Football Playoff.
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The rock STARTUS of USC is back. It was nice
tuning into the PAC twelve championship game and going, hey,
there's a full house, there's an exciting game. We got
star players. This is hell and gone. From three thousand
people at Levi Stadium on a Friday night like it
was up until paymins, an aflute electric environment was the Yeah.
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I was the first sellout that the Pack Troll has
had in that conference championship game SINCECE moved to Vegas.
It was electric environment. Full credit to the Utah fans.
I mean they traveled in waves and they treated it
like it was a home game. It was Rice Echo
Stadium South is really what it felt like. They drowned
out the USC fans for extended stretches of the game. Uh.
And both fan bases have a lot to be proud
of for the way that their teams performed throughout the year.
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Obviously a lot of optimism for the way SC is
trending and Utah quietly the much maligned program in the conference.
Now back to Backpack twelve champions Uh And I don't
think Kyle Whittingham gets nearly enough credit on the national
stage for what he's been able to build in a
consistent winner, not only in the Pack twelve, but the
Mountain Western leagues before out there in Salt Lake City.
From an odds perspectived in game wagering, where it's been available.
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Once they were down seventeen three, what kind of odds
you getting on Utah for the comeback? Other number got
up to twelve and a half. You could have found
them there in a money line price right around plus
three forty plus three fifty, and USC had a chance
to really put a nail on the coffin. Potentially they
get to turnover when it's seventeen to three, they probably
go three and out. And it gave Utah lifeline. And
you could see the energy and the momentum start to
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swell in that Utah team when they were able to
impose their will fit sstically um USC just wasn't able
to make the tackles they needed to. And when USC
got back in the game in that second half, cuts
into a field goal three plays later, Utah is dancing
in the end zone and you knew it was goodnight, sweetheart.
And the e trojan streams of getting the college football
playoff we're gonna be dashed for at least another season,
all right, So what would you put the odds at
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right now? If I said, okay, the odds that Ohio
State is the fourth two? Considering that, thinking that, all right,
no matter what Georgia, Michigan and TC you we're gonna
wind up being in what what were the what odd
you gonna be for Ohio State being the fourth team?
What odd did you give be Alabama being the fourth team.
I'll give you ninety eight and a half percent for
Ohio State to be the fourth team in there. And
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I think Alabama is gonna need some help. They may
need Kansas State to be TCU by thirty five for
them to get a seat at the table. So if
you're looking at Alabama and trying to be realistic about
their numbers, I'd give them a ten to twelve percent
chance to get in. I don't think the committee can
keep TCU on the outside looking in and punish them
for an undefeated regular season in a Power five conference
regardless of what happens tomorrow. Now see becomes a hundred
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million dollar question. Does Ohio State end up going on
the road to the Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta to
take on Georgia and the playoff opener and you get
Michigan TCU or do they set up a potential rematch
that Ohio State fans normally would have to wait a
year to get about three weeks after they were bludgeoned
in their own building by the Wolverines. Jason's got some
conspiracy chaos theory because there's a Syracuse guy to try
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to figure out how to get Clemson into the mix. Snowball,
what are we talking? The best way for Clemson to
get into the mix is to get a time machine,
go back and figure out how to hand the ball
to Will Shipley in the second half allows Spencer Rattler
to go up and down the field. Clemson made their
own bed and they never looked like a college football
playoff contender most of the season. They had a chance
to back in and I'm thrilled, to be quite honest,
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that Clemson ends up losing and taking their name out
of the equation. I think the one team, though, should
be kicking themselves more than any in college football. USC
put forth a value and effort with a dinged up quarterback.
They have nothing to be ashamed of. But Tennessee going
on the road losing in Columbia to the game Coox
that single handedly wrecked the playoff hopes and dreams for
both the Clemson Tigers and Tennessee volunteers in subsequent weekends.
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So Todd, wait, wait, you're not gonna give me any
conspiracy theory that USC stays at number four. Hey, Caleb
Williams got hurt. They were playing until that point, they're
rock stars. Man. We gotta people gotta watch on TV. Man,
we gotta keep USC in this that you know, I
wouldn't rule it out. I actually think USC getting into
number four may have a higher probability than Alabama at
that point. But I think when you look at USC,
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it's tough to make a strong compelling case, knowing that
even though they finished the season with that Gaudie eleven
and two record, both of their losses came against Utah
and they really needed to try and atone for the
one point loss at rices Echo Stadium earlier this season.
Todd ferman I guest so Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.
Here in Fox Sports Radio, you find Todd at Todd
Fermin on Twitter, the bet the Board podcast, including live
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updates on Sunday mornings. You know the pros Joe's kind
of breakdown that you do there on Instagram Todd as well. So, uh,
nownloaded and be the smartest man or woman at the
water cooler. But staying in Vegas, about the chargers on
the road at Las Vegas, Uh narrow favorite are the
raiders forty nine and a half the total and we
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see the area yards from Justin Herbert, one of the
low numbers, but starting to get healthy in the receiving corps.
But can Josh McDaniels and company actually get a streak going.
I mean, this is the Raiders team that was significantly
better than the final score line indicated last week, and
they went against the Seattle Hunter Yards on Pete Carroll's defense,
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and he saw how explosive they could be getting Josh
Jacobs involved, who's a little bit nicked up in his
own right, uh, and took some of the pressure off
of Derek Carr after he had to cost potentially costly
interceptions early in the game. The problem for this Chargers
team is they're going in as a shell of themselves.
I mean, you look at their injury report, it's truly
who's who of impact players, from Trey Pipkins and Corey
Lindsley around the offensive line to Mike Williams in the
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receiving room, let alone all of the injuries that they've
dealt with on the defensive side of ball. Will monitor
the status obviously for the Raiders and see if Jacobs
can go and what'll kind of workload he'll be capable
of taking on. But even if he's not out of
It's a great matchup for the Chargers in this particular spot,
and that's the main reason you've seen the Chargers go
from short road favorite is minus two on the road
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to one point underdogs. Will see if that number continues
to trend in the Raiders direction. What's your over under
on Mike White touchdowns on Sunday six six and a half? What?
What's what's that? Yeah, I'm not gonna quake go that high.
When you beat up on the Chicago Bears, which is
a half step up above playing in the Sun Belt,
It's leaves here a little room for the margin for air.
But I do think this Jets offense, looking at the
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way Mike White served as a facilitator, there are a
lot of playmakers to be excited about. You talk about
Garrett Wilson, who has four touchdown receptions this year too,
with Joe Flacco at the helm to already with Mike
White and zero is Zach Wilson, Elijah more off the
milk carton back and irrelevance with two catches respector for
me and this Jets offense honestly a homecoming of sorts
for him. I think Ty Coughlin is the player to watch.
Knowing the Minnesota goes about playing his own, Ancolind can
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be the guy to take advantage in the middle of
the field. I'm a little bit concerned though about the
Jets ground game. I'm not as bullish on Zonovan White
as a lot of folks are thinking he's going to
be the second coming of Bruce Hall. But defensively, Sauce
Gardner against Justin Jefferson will be the matchup not only
of that game, but maybe the entire weekend to watch
and if the Jets can neutralize him. The three worst
games that Jefferson has put forth this year, the Vikings
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are one and two and their one win was a
come from behind victory against the Detroit Lions early in
the season. One of the games of the week, the
Dolphins on the road at the fort forties six and
a half the latest total I saw with San Francisco
a four point favorite. McCaffrey banged up, Mitchell already done
for the year. Uh, looking at a beat up running
back room. But Jimmy g and that defense that's been
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sod Miami, the high power offense, what gives here? Yeah,
CNCLB just fine. He'll be a capable of taking on
a full worklate. I wouldn't worry about him whatsoever. Jimmy
Garoppolo hasn't had a knee brace on despite that ugly
hit that potentially looked to be a lot more damaging
than it turned out to be last week and against
the Saints, but Trent Williams along that offensive line left
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practice today. That could be a big loss on their
offensive line. Knowing that the Dolphins tremuile dealing with the
quad hamstring whatever the hell they're calling it right now,
I don't think he'll be anywhere close to And when
you look at the way to beat this Miami Dolphins defense,
it's with wide receivers that can beat man coverage. That's
not how the forty niners are built. So this is
a little bit of a difficult matchup, but at the
same time, a massive loss for the Dolphins that you're
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gonna want to monitor between now and Sunday if Tron
Armstead isn't out there. I mean, tour was a sitting
duck in the second half against the Houston Texans. Uh,
and I think Miami will really have to alter their
game plan. But truly a meeting of the minds. Knowing
the high level of familiarity and incests to a certain
extent between Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel, given how much
time they've spent with each other, going all the way
back to the two thousand eleventh season. All right, lastly, Todd,
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over the course of the week, the last few days,
we get ready for absolute chaos. A couple of stuff.
What is the betting line for that game? Over the
wee We've had the Christian polistic situation with the play
he's not plaguing now he's plagued the Netherlands half the
team has the flu. What's the better line looked like
for that's the last couple of You've seen a little
bit of movement Smith towards Team USA. There's still half
goal underdogs, but there has been a slight adjustment and
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the juice on that. The other bigger move has come
on the total. It opened it two and a half
most books, and you're not looking at pretty much a
too flat out there in the market. You talk about
the flu situation for the Netherlands, and it's a team
that really underwhelmed in one of the easier groups at
least through their first three matches. Team USA has a
pretty impressive distinction so far, with the pool play officially
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being completed, the only team in the entire competition that
has not conceded a goal. Of course, the loan blemish
on their resume a penalty kick for Gareth Bale in
their openers, so a lot of reason for optimism about
Team USA. They shouldn't be intimidating this matchup, as the
Netherlands roster nowhere close to the same strength of an
Argentina or Brazil, and I wouldn't be shocked whatsoever if
they find a way to play greedy style, grind down
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the Dutch and move on to the quarterfinals if things
break the right way, as long as they're able to
find that moment of brilliance like we saw from Christian
Blistic and the one that went against I ran look
at that. I love Chaos Smith. I gotta ask one
for Frostburg. So since a lot of USC people moved
up there towards Vegas tonight for this title game, how
much money came in on the Lakers given their recent
surge and Anthony Davis for m v P. I don't
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know about the Anthony Davis for m v P. But
when you look at the Lakers, obviously their current form
significantly better than what we've seen. A nice little pay
day there. If you had the foresight to peg him
not only plus the eight and a half against the
Bucks tonight, but to bet them on the money line, Smith,
it would have been a perfect parlay leg for you
to try and tie in at plus three dollars to
what kind of price you would have said on Jacob
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Degram not resounding with the matt Here's career. Oh hey,
number one, I told you that was gonna happen. Number two,
I'm okay with it happening because it wasn't the Braves.
So yeah, you want to go to Tech, go ahead,
take that money from Texas. You beg as well be
playing on Mars. Go ahead pay that's just don't do
it the NL East. That's a complete you know, at
least it's silver lining for Mets fans. They have a
hundred two million dollars allocated towards listening to Timmy Trumpet
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for the next five years going into the eighth and
ninth inning show, So that should be what everyone looks
forward to at City Field over the next I can't
do the mass plus days or potential losses for the Mets.
He is on Twitter at Todd Ferber. That is at
Todd Ferber. Check out the bet the Board podcast with him.
He's on CBS former Hods Maker at Caesar's All the
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it there again at Todd Ferman. Todd will talk to
you and you guys as well. Hopefully quick turn around
for you. Expect you to be at some adult establishments
drinking some of the finest domestic beer at seven o'clock
Pacific time tomorrow morning, nice and early. Maybe let's go.
If you're talking about five establishment being my couch with
a beer at seven am. Yes, that that will know,
he said, fine establishment. Hey, my couch is a fine establishment.
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It's comfortable. Thanks a bunch, Todd. You know, before we
get to Steve, just really quick, you know, Todd brings
up something interesting if in fact things go as we expect,
and the four teams of the playoff that wind up
with you know, Georgia wins tomorrow mission and wins tomorrow.
Ohio State gets in TCU wins and those are the
four teams. The sting is gonna be pretty easy for
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this because the one thing the committee does not want
to do is put Michigan Ohio State back against each other,
not a week after Michigan just won by twenty five points.
They do not like rematches, and nobody wants to see that.
We just saw that game. Let's see something different. So
if things go as long as they go according to
what it looks like now, the USC is out, it's
gonna be Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan TCU in some kind
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of order. If one of those teams, even if Georgia
loses and drops, doesn't matter, they'll still have to play
Ohio State because they're they're just they're gonna avoid Michigan
Ohio State in that rematch at all costs. Not that
it means that Ohio State can't beat Michigan, but just well,
we just watch this game, Michigan just one. You gotta
have as much juice as possible going into these games, well,
always trying to figure out how you make the best
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uh glamour scenario that you possibly can, and that rematch
as much chairs were regionality and such for college football,
there's enough people that have seen both of these squads
and maybe enough of hardball that they just hate everybody involved.
So then you sit around and you hate watch and
hate gamble. I'm gonna hate gamble. I don't want to gamble,
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but I'm gonna hate gabble. Well, you don't think people
go into a casino and say, you know what, I
and I normally don't bet really heavy, but you know what,
I'm I hate the Raiders, all right, I'm a Charger fan.
I'm going to that game and I'm saying, you know what, blank,
this put out put that much more down because I
hate the Raiders that much as opposed to my normal bets.
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I mean, it's Vegas makes money, because that's exactly right.
Rationality goes out the window. But we we know that
it's a real thing. It's kind of like the side
bet you and Tyshert have over Us and Netherlands.
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You know, I think that's the best. Can we hear
from Allen again? Tell Alan, let's just run that on
a loop. That's pretty good? Did did we ever? Find
that clip of Jason from this afternoon. Oh, now that
you speak of it, my god, should we play it
like now or should we wait like a couple of
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minutes for Jason to set it up? Okay, let's wait
for Jason. First of all? Is it I will say this?
Is it cleaned up? No? I mean it's cleaned up
enough for us to play now that it's ten o'clock. Yeah, alright,
you were really really mad when this signing went down,
you know, would not describe it. But it's got like
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two and twenty thousand views already, so you're doing good
on Twitter. Good for you to monetize that. All right,
I gotta try to do that. I gotta, I gotta.
I gotta sink that to an advertise with a subcude.
So Jacob deGrom is gone. He has no longer a Met.
He is now a Texas Ranger signing a five year,
five million dollar deal with the Rangers, is shooting the Mets.
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And now he's gone. And I know, thank you for
asking about me, Thank you for I am fine. I
am okay. Number one, Yes, I told you this summer
it was my long goodbye to Jacob deGrom. He was
going to leave after this year, and with what we
found out about this story right months ago, he didn't
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want to stay. He wasn't going to stay. He wanted
to leave right. The same thing what I told you
was gonna happen with Aaron Judge and Jacob deGrom is
happening right. Both teams don't want to make it look like, well,
we can't go after our franchise players. Want to make
sure we're looking like we're giving an effort to keep them.
So what did I say was going to happen very
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early in free agency, Yankees Mets are gonna make their
offers to Gram and to Aaron Judge where if they
took them, great, we'd love to keep you. It's awesome.
But more than likely they were gonna say no because
they were gonna get more money someplace else. And the
Mets and the Yankees would say, we tried, but they
wanted more money, and we have to figure out the
rest of the team. Don't get mad at us, and
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the fans would understand, the team would understand, the rest
of the organization would understand. But that was the whole plan.
It's the plan with er. It's why the eight year,
three million dollar contract was leaked for for Judge. Why
why does that need to be out there? Because the
Giants are preparing their offer and they know if they
go with an extra year, an extra sixty million dollars
are and Judge is gonna be a San Francisco Giant.
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What happened with the Mets and to Grab? What did
we find out tonight? The Mets offered to Grom a
three year deal in the hundred and twenty million dollar ring,
so about what they paid Max Scher's or a year ago.
It wasn't very shortly after that where de Grom got
the offer from the Rangers and the Mets, according to
the New York Post, only found out he was going
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to the Rangers right before it was announced. So it's
not like to Grab came back to the Mets and said, hey,
this is their offer. Can you get back this was?
This is your offer? Okay, this is the offer. I'm
going with the Rangers. I told you this was gonna
happen because number one, the Mets new giving to Grab
all kinds of money for five six years doesn't work.
The guy's thirty five years. I love to Grab. He's great,
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but he's gonna be thirty five, he can't stay healthy,
and he's a bonus guy. The Mets won a hundred
games and he was a ghost this year. They can't
give him money and expect to count on him. Nobody
the Rangers can't expect to count on him. But they said,
we don't care because we're the Rangers. What does it matter.
It's like it's not even money. It's like it's just
printed on on on the backup pizza boxes. Money you're
paying when you go to the Texas Rangers. It doesn't matter, right,
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But what did I say? Forget about that for a second.
Do you really think the Gram wants to stay? He
Brody van Waggon in four years ago, right, he was undervalued.
He could have got more money, brodieven. The only good
thing Brody van wagon It did was bringing Jacob de
Gram at less than he could have gotten somewhere else.
Every word out of de Gram this year was I'm
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opting out at the end of the year. I'm opting out.
I'm opting out, which fine, because you know you're gonna
get more money. I'm opting out at the end of
the year. Not once did he publicly say I want
to stay I want to be a Met. What is
the only thing you heard throughout this entire time on
de Gram has told friends, has told teammates, and if
the money is close, I want to stay a Met.
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Nothing public from him, nothing, I want to stay. Nothing.
I hope it can be worked out, but if it doesn't,
I can go someplace else. He was always going to leave,
and the fact that this is how it went. The
Mets made him a pretty good offer, he got a
better offer and said, that's what I want. There's no haggling,
there's no back and forth. So let me go back
to the Mets and come back here. The Rangers can
wait another day before he decided to take their money
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or not. De Gram was always going to leave. The
Mets were always going to give him a somewhat half
hearted offer, but de Graham was always going to leave.
It's like two people that know they're going to break
up and and and you kind of want to be
the bad guy to say, well, I'm the one push.
It's like we go both kind of you both kind
of do the bare minimum possible to make it seem
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like you want to stay together. That was the Mets
and to grob Hey, we'll offer you this kind of buddy,
know what, you're gonna take it someplace else to Grob
knows I'm gonna get at someplace else. But I'll listen
to your first offer, and I'm leaving. This was always
going to happen. If you know what, the Mets are
better off because you can go to Texas, make your
twelve or fourteen starts a year and see how it goes.
You're not gonna suddenly get healthier at thirty four, thirty
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five years old. Good luck the Mets. Good to do this.
I'm okay with it. Okay, yeah. I think part of
it goes down to the legacy type contracts, because we
we lament them, were debate them. Where's the useful money?
Where's the right thank you for a job either well
done for a short period or just done because the
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contract runs out, depending on where you're at in that timeline,
right from the Cabreras to the Poolholes to the Rendos
and all the way down the line with Jake up
to Grom. Could you have paid him this money and
just said all right, we're hopeful to get two good
years and really push our window because we'll have him
for eighteen starts or whatever the case may be, and
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we can move forward. Sure, but when when you get
into the language playing it in the press, I think
enough guys have learned that you're not winning, no no
matter what your your verbiage is. At this point, like
with Aaron Judge, where's the win? Alright, just gotta say,
you know, I'm hopeful it works out. And that's as
nebulous it could be with de Gram a little bit less,
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but all right, the balls in the team's court. And
I would think for the fans that would be mad
about it. They're looking at the team. No matter what,
you got money. The lie to me you got money.
I know you got money. They keep talking always, but
that's always money in the banana stand. Remember that. So
you have the situation with Kramov, right, you're absolutely right.
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It could be two years, could be one more year
until he falls off a cliff and now has to
become a sixth inning set up guy to continue his career.
I don't can you imagine coming out of the bulpen,
Jacob Degram, He's getting paid forty three million dollars this
year to pitch the sixth living. Yeah, it's it's a
little bit of the uh sarcasm dripping from the mouth.
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But it's like, I'll be damned if I'm giving you
a forty three million dollars and saying goodbye to you.
Uh that way right, you know it's out of spite.
You're gonna at least still be on the staff. But
for both he and going back to Aaron Judge, you know,
you try to consider all the different component parts because
you've each made good money. Judge, this is the one
that is obviously the I'm gonna build homes. For de
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gram it's it's one more monster deal in his career
as he's already thirty four. So you decide how much
does the cash make sense? For de Gram member, he
saves that nine to ten percent, right, state income tax
goes out the window, so they're a nice raise. So
maybe maybe that's the difference. Maybe Colin wouldn't come up
the extra again, the extra twenty million to offset that
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over the five years, how about that? But for Judge,
some of the same rationale when you go into the
dollars and cents, but you're also trying to look at
where can I win. I mean, for de Graham may
maybe just kind of shrugs. It's like, that's not in
the cards for me. I'm gonna go take the cash.
Now that he's thirty, coming off the monster season that
he had, he's looking around. It's like, all right, I
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want to win consistently as well. But there's also the numbers.
If I put up quality home run numbers over the
five to seven years. Now we're talking about immortality and
these Hall of Fame voting things that we're getting from
these committees and all that. My name goes up the
that ladder, So you know, those things are running concurrently.
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And look, the Almighty Dollar probably wins out ninety nine
out of a hundred times. But I like to think
about the the sanctity of the game. I haven't said
that in a while, So I really worked my way
to to get to that end game. Now, look, now,
I just honestly that what kind of about this is
not just that you know, look, the Mets didn't have
to pay him this money, but he didn't go to
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the Braves. That's right, the resounding Rangers. Where are you
gonna do the least damage to me possible? Oh, the Rangers.
The Rangers is about the answer of that. Good luck
and you're also taking yourself off the radar unless something
really strange happens. Right, Not only is he not making
himself relevant, you're also not covetous of whatever he's doing
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because it's not leaving anything playing for the Texas Rangers. Now,
Frostburg has had some time now that Jason smiths with
Mike Harmon live from the tirect dot com studios, he's
had some time. He has cleaned up the audio of
of what I put on social media right after Jake. Guys,
this was Jason when the GRAM signing went down, and
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he was not happy at all. America, take a listen.
This is gonna happen. Is gonna good. It's gonna be
a good day day, know you. That's what I don't like.
The cowards. Not on the other broadcast they say it
isn't just that they're gonna get the pitching or quilling down.
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No days, it's gone to God. Speaking of rough, he'll
be fighting every day and center fail have rough navvy kids.
I'm gonna think a mos this offseason. Nothing, it's still
still will you know if they got shorter last year,
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but no, they do dol ship to seat you at
the h and they quote the wrong didn't rough under
wrong again. Jo, Listen and you say you're okay, You're
not okay. No, listen. Do you think I spent too
much time talking about Terran Roughs? I think maybe I
should have talked more about to grab on that. You
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are not okay, buddy. But that's the whole point. You
were so unhinged you forgot what you were starting your
rant about. Yeah no, but but seriously, part of why
I'm really okay because he didn't go to the Braves
because if not now would change things a ton going.
Oh my god, Now I know he's now. I know
he's gonna be healthy. He's gonna make thirty five starts
a year. He's gonna go twenty five and five. E
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r A is gonna be one point oh eight. Oh,
it's gonna be. He hasn't signed the paper yet. There's time,
he's arranged. He's a ranger. He Twitter and how about
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crossing stop because trains can't It has been a huge
Friday night, usc has fallen. College football playoff is in chaos.
Joining us now on the hotline for more on this
and other big stories. Our insider in Las Vegas, former
odds maker at Caesar's. Check him out the Bet the
Board podcast. You can see him on CBS. He was
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at the Pack twelve championship game tonight in Vegas. He
caught four passes from Caleb Williams in the second half
for seventy six yards of a touchdown. It is Vegas
insider Todd firm and talk what's happening, and Buddy, I
didn't catch four passes from Kayleb Williams operating on one
hamstring at the latter portions of that game. But I
can tell you I would have missed about the same
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tackles as many tackles as the USC defenders did in
the second half trying to slow down that Utah offense.
You know, I want to say for you know, honestly,
this is I'm being honest stuff. I want to say
thank you because tuting in tonight watching USC and Utah,
knowing that there were big stakes involved. Right Pack twelve.
After dark, USC wins, they go to the College Football Playoff.
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The rock STARTUS of USC is back. It was nice
tuning into the PAC twelve championship game and going, hey,
there's a full house, there's an exciting game. We got
star players. This is hell and gone. From three thousand
people at Levi Stadium on a Friday night like it
was up until paymins, an aflute electric environment was the Yeah.
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I was the first sellout that the Pack Troll has
had in that conference championship game SINCECE moved to Vegas.
It was electric environment. Full credit to the Utah fans.
I mean they traveled in waves and they treated it
like it was a home game. It was Rice Echo
Stadium South is really what it felt like. They drowned
out the USC fans for extended stretches of the game. Uh.
And both fan bases have a lot to be proud
of for the way that their teams performed throughout the year.
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Obviously a lot of optimism for the way SC is
trending and Utah quietly the much maligned program in the conference.
Now back to Backpack twelve champions Uh And I don't
think Kyle Whittingham gets nearly enough credit on the national
stage for what he's been able to build in a
consistent winner, not only in the Pack twelve, but the
Mountain Western leagues before out there in Salt Lake City.
From an odds perspectived in game wagering, where it's been available.
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Once they were down seventeen three, what kind of odds
you getting on Utah for the comeback? Other number got
up to twelve and a half. You could have found
them there in a money line price right around plus
three forty plus three fifty, and USC had a chance
to really put a nail on the coffin. Potentially they
get to turnover when it's seventeen to three, they probably
go three and out. And it gave Utah lifeline. And
you could see the energy and the momentum start to
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swell in that Utah team when they were able to
impose their will fit sstically um USC just wasn't able
to make the tackles they needed to. And when USC
got back in the game in that second half, cuts
into a field goal three plays later, Utah is dancing
in the end zone and you knew it was goodnight, sweetheart.
And the e trojan streams of getting the college football
playoff we're gonna be dashed for at least another season,
all right, So what would you put the odds at
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right now? If I said, okay, the odds that Ohio
State is the fourth two? Considering that, thinking that, all right,
no matter what Georgia, Michigan and TC you we're gonna
wind up being in what what were the what odd
you gonna be for Ohio State being the fourth team?
What odd did you give be Alabama being the fourth team.
I'll give you ninety eight and a half percent for
Ohio State to be the fourth team in there. And
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I think Alabama is gonna need some help. They may
need Kansas State to be TCU by thirty five for
them to get a seat at the table. So if
you're looking at Alabama and trying to be realistic about
their numbers, I'd give them a ten to twelve percent
chance to get in. I don't think the committee can
keep TCU on the outside looking in and punish them
for an undefeated regular season in a Power five conference
regardless of what happens tomorrow. Now see becomes a hundred
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million dollar question. Does Ohio State end up going on
the road to the Mercedes Benz Dome in Atlanta to
take on Georgia and the playoff opener and you get
Michigan TCU or do they set up a potential rematch
that Ohio State fans normally would have to wait a
year to get about three weeks after they were bludgeoned
in their own building by the Wolverines. Jason's got some
conspiracy chaos theory because there's a Syracuse guy to try
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to figure out how to get Clemson into the mix. Snowball,
what are we talking? The best way for Clemson to
get into the mix is to get a time machine,
go back and figure out how to hand the ball
to Will Shipley in the second half allows Spencer Rattler
to go up and down the field. Clemson made their
own bed and they never looked like a college football
playoff contender most of the season. They had a chance
to back in and I'm thrilled, to be quite honest,
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that Clemson ends up losing and taking their name out
of the equation. I think the one team, though, should
be kicking themselves more than any in college football. USC
put forth a value and effort with a dinged up quarterback.
They have nothing to be ashamed of. But Tennessee going
on the road losing in Columbia to the game Coox
that single handedly wrecked the playoff hopes and dreams for
both the Clemson Tigers and Tennessee volunteers in subsequent weekends.
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So Todd, wait, wait, you're not gonna give me any
conspiracy theory that USC stays at number four. Hey, Caleb
Williams got hurt. They were playing until that point, they're
rock stars. Man. We gotta people gotta watch on TV. Man,
we gotta keep USC in this that you know, I
wouldn't rule it out. I actually think USC getting into
number four may have a higher probability than Alabama at
that point. But I think when you look at USC,
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it's tough to make a strong compelling case, knowing that
even though they finished the season with that Gaudie eleven
and two record, both of their losses came against Utah
and they really needed to try and atone for the
one point loss at rices Echo Stadium earlier this season.
Todd ferman I guest so Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon.
Here in Fox Sports Radio, you find Todd at Todd
Fermin on Twitter, the bet the Board podcast, including live
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updates on Sunday mornings. You know the pros Joe's kind
of breakdown that you do there on Instagram Todd as well. So, uh,
nownloaded and be the smartest man or woman at the
water cooler. But staying in Vegas, about the chargers on
the road at Las Vegas, Uh narrow favorite are the
raiders forty nine and a half the total and we
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see the area yards from Justin Herbert, one of the
low numbers, but starting to get healthy in the receiving corps.
But can Josh McDaniels and company actually get a streak going.
I mean, this is the Raiders team that was significantly
better than the final score line indicated last week, and
they went against the Seattle Hunter Yards on Pete Carroll's defense,
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and he saw how explosive they could be getting Josh
Jacobs involved, who's a little bit nicked up in his
own right, uh, and took some of the pressure off
of Derek Carr after he had to cost potentially costly
interceptions early in the game. The problem for this Chargers
team is they're going in as a shell of themselves.
I mean, you look at their injury report, it's truly
who's who of impact players, from Trey Pipkins and Corey
Lindsley around the offensive line to Mike Williams in the
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receiving room, let alone all of the injuries that they've
dealt with on the defensive side of ball. Will monitor
the status obviously for the Raiders and see if Jacobs
can go and what'll kind of workload he'll be capable
of taking on. But even if he's not out of
It's a great matchup for the Chargers in this particular spot,
and that's the main reason you've seen the Chargers go
from short road favorite is minus two on the road
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to one point underdogs. Will see if that number continues
to trend in the Raiders direction. What's your over under
on Mike White touchdowns on Sunday six six and a half? What?
What's what's that? Yeah, I'm not gonna quake go that high.
When you beat up on the Chicago Bears, which is
a half step up above playing in the Sun Belt,
It's leaves here a little room for the margin for air.
But I do think this Jets offense, looking at the
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way Mike White served as a facilitator, there are a
lot of playmakers to be excited about. You talk about
Garrett Wilson, who has four touchdown receptions this year too,
with Joe Flacco at the helm to already with Mike
White and zero is Zach Wilson, Elijah more off the
milk carton back and irrelevance with two catches respector for
me and this Jets offense honestly a homecoming of sorts
for him. I think Ty Coughlin is the player to watch.
Knowing the Minnesota goes about playing his own, Ancolind can
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be the guy to take advantage in the middle of
the field. I'm a little bit concerned though about the
Jets ground game. I'm not as bullish on Zonovan White
as a lot of folks are thinking he's going to
be the second coming of Bruce Hall. But defensively, Sauce
Gardner against Justin Jefferson will be the matchup not only
of that game, but maybe the entire weekend to watch
and if the Jets can neutralize him. The three worst
games that Jefferson has put forth this year, the Vikings
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are one and two and their one win was a
come from behind victory against the Detroit Lions early in
the season. One of the games of the week, the
Dolphins on the road at the fort forties six and
a half the latest total I saw with San Francisco
a four point favorite. McCaffrey banged up, Mitchell already done
for the year. Uh, looking at a beat up running
back room. But Jimmy g and that defense that's been
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sod Miami, the high power offense, what gives here? Yeah,
CNCLB just fine. He'll be a capable of taking on
a full worklate. I wouldn't worry about him whatsoever. Jimmy
Garoppolo hasn't had a knee brace on despite that ugly
hit that potentially looked to be a lot more damaging
than it turned out to be last week and against
the Saints, but Trent Williams along that offensive line left
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practice today. That could be a big loss on their
offensive line. Knowing that the Dolphins tremuile dealing with the
quad hamstring whatever the hell they're calling it right now,
I don't think he'll be anywhere close to And when
you look at the way to beat this Miami Dolphins defense,
it's with wide receivers that can beat man coverage. That's
not how the forty niners are built. So this is
a little bit of a difficult matchup, but at the
same time, a massive loss for the Dolphins that you're
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gonna want to monitor between now and Sunday if Tron
Armstead isn't out there. I mean, tour was a sitting
duck in the second half against the Houston Texans. Uh,
and I think Miami will really have to alter their
game plan. But truly a meeting of the minds. Knowing
the high level of familiarity and incests to a certain
extent between Kyle Shanahan and Mike McDaniel, given how much
time they've spent with each other, going all the way
back to the two thousand eleventh season. All right, lastly, Todd,
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over the course of the week, the last few days,
we get ready for absolute chaos. A couple of stuff.
What is the betting line for that game? Over the
wee We've had the Christian polistic situation with the play
he's not plaguing now he's plagued the Netherlands half the
team has the flu. What's the better line looked like
for that's the last couple of You've seen a little
bit of movement Smith towards Team USA. There's still half
goal underdogs, but there has been a slight adjustment and
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the juice on that. The other bigger move has come
on the total. It opened it two and a half
most books, and you're not looking at pretty much a
too flat out there in the market. You talk about
the flu situation for the Netherlands, and it's a team
that really underwhelmed in one of the easier groups at
least through their first three matches. Team USA has a
pretty impressive distinction so far, with the pool play officially
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being completed, the only team in the entire competition that
has not conceded a goal. Of course, the loan blemish
on their resume a penalty kick for Gareth Bale in
their openers, so a lot of reason for optimism about
Team USA. They shouldn't be intimidating this matchup, as the
Netherlands roster nowhere close to the same strength of an
Argentina or Brazil, and I wouldn't be shocked whatsoever if
they find a way to play greedy style, grind down
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the Dutch and move on to the quarterfinals if things
break the right way, as long as they're able to
find that moment of brilliance like we saw from Christian
Blistic and the one that went against I ran look
at that. I love Chaos Smith. I gotta ask one
for Frostburg. So since a lot of USC people moved
up there towards Vegas tonight for this title game, how
much money came in on the Lakers given their recent
surge and Anthony Davis for m v P. I don't
(24:16):
know about the Anthony Davis for m v P. But
when you look at the Lakers, obviously their current form
significantly better than what we've seen. A nice little pay
day there. If you had the foresight to peg him
not only plus the eight and a half against the
Bucks tonight, but to bet them on the money line, Smith,
it would have been a perfect parlay leg for you
to try and tie in at plus three dollars to
what kind of price you would have said on Jacob
(24:37):
Degram not resounding with the matt Here's career. Oh hey,
number one, I told you that was gonna happen. Number two,
I'm okay with it happening because it wasn't the Braves.
So yeah, you want to go to Tech, go ahead,
take that money from Texas. You beg as well be
playing on Mars. Go ahead pay that's just don't do
it the NL East. That's a complete you know, at
least it's silver lining for Mets fans. They have a
hundred two million dollars allocated towards listening to Timmy Trumpet
(25:00):
for the next five years going into the eighth and
ninth inning show, So that should be what everyone looks
forward to at City Field over the next I can't
do the mass plus days or potential losses for the Mets.
He is on Twitter at Todd Ferber. That is at
Todd Ferber. Check out the bet the Board podcast with him.
He's on CBS former Hods Maker at Caesar's All the
content you need for everything Vegas oriented and more. Keep
(25:24):
it there again at Todd Ferman. Todd will talk to
you and you guys as well. Hopefully quick turn around
for you. Expect you to be at some adult establishments
drinking some of the finest domestic beer at seven o'clock
Pacific time tomorrow morning, nice and early. Maybe let's go.
If you're talking about five establishment being my couch with
a beer at seven am. Yes, that that will know,
he said, fine establishment. Hey, my couch is a fine establishment.
(25:45):
It's comfortable. Thanks a bunch, Todd. You know, before we
get to Steve, just really quick, you know, Todd brings
up something interesting if in fact things go as we expect,
and the four teams of the playoff that wind up
with you know, Georgia wins tomorrow mission and wins tomorrow.
Ohio State gets in TCU wins and those are the
four teams. The sting is gonna be pretty easy for
(26:06):
this because the one thing the committee does not want
to do is put Michigan Ohio State back against each other,
not a week after Michigan just won by twenty five points.
They do not like rematches, and nobody wants to see that.
We just saw that game. Let's see something different. So
if things go as long as they go according to
what it looks like now, the USC is out, it's
gonna be Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan TCU in some kind
(26:30):
of order. If one of those teams, even if Georgia
loses and drops, doesn't matter, they'll still have to play
Ohio State because they're they're just they're gonna avoid Michigan
Ohio State in that rematch at all costs. Not that
it means that Ohio State can't beat Michigan, but just well,
we just watch this game, Michigan just one. You gotta
have as much juice as possible going into these games, well,
always trying to figure out how you make the best
(26:53):
uh glamour scenario that you possibly can, and that rematch
as much chairs were regionality and such for college football,
there's enough people that have seen both of these squads
and maybe enough of hardball that they just hate everybody involved.
So then you sit around and you hate watch and
hate gamble. I'm gonna hate gamble. I don't want to gamble,
(27:14):
but I'm gonna hate gabble. Well, you don't think people
go into a casino and say, you know what, I
and I normally don't bet really heavy, but you know what,
I'm I hate the Raiders, all right, I'm a Charger fan.
I'm going to that game and I'm saying, you know what, blank,
this put out put that much more down because I
hate the Raiders that much as opposed to my normal bets.
(27:35):
I mean, it's Vegas makes money, because that's exactly right.
Rationality goes out the window. But we we know that
it's a real thing. It's kind of like the side
bet you and Tyshert have over Us and Netherlands.
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