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we're looking at the Miami Heat with a stranglehold of
a lead over the Boston Celtics. They win Game two,
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one eleven, one oh five. And there is one part
of this that I I really can't believe that teams
still do this, knowing full well who Jimmy Butler is.
And it's weird because when you think about professional sports,
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and you hear your friends, You and your friends talk
about sports, going, oh man, you know the Jets are
gonna kill the Dolphins in this game. Why oh, they're
so pissed about what happened last year. They're so pissed
about that. I'm just making stuff up, like nothing really
other than the Jets just losing. Y know, they're so
pissed after what happened last year. They're gonna be so
pissed on Sunday. Being pissed off doesn't win your games, right, yeah, okay?
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You know, emotion may take you through a play or two,
but then you have to play the rest of the
way like everybody else, because everybody's motivated, because everybody's professionals.
So I always think the emotional aspect of something is overrated.
Sometimes something overwhelmingly can can can for you on whether
it's the return of a teammate who is hurt for
a long time and you keep mental focus or or what.
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But the general oh man, they're pissed man, the garden variety,
you know, piss somebody off. That usually doesn't work every day,
except with Jimmy Butler, because Butler is that kind of
a guy, all right. He is absolutely that kind of
a guy. And you know, because we're gonna illustrate what
happened tonight in the fourth quarter of this game that
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detells you that's exactly Jimmy Butler is. But you kind
of see that this is in line with who he's
been his entire career, because who has Butler been. He's
a guy that scores twenty two points a game, right,
that's pretty good, and it used to be really good. Now,
you know, eighty guys score twenty points a game in
the NBA, so it's really not that big a deal.
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But it's the playoff moments. It's big moments where suddenly
Jimmy Butler raises his game to another level. Now, there's
a difference between raising your game to another level and
just suddenly becoming a different play and Butler just becomes
a different player. Why because he's motivated more for whatever
reason in the playoffs or big times individually during regular
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season games. But it's just not there for him on
a nightly basis. You could make the argument that Jimmy
Butler really is underachieved a lot, knowing that he's capable
of this, but yet every night we kind of get
a Guard Variety twenty twenty three points a game for him. Boy,
he was He's really capable of a lot more. Man,
he's really underachieved. But because it's Friday, we're about positivity.
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Let's push this thing forward.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Get you the underachieving Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Just stay right here. You look at the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Round just in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Just think about that, though, Just think about that. You
see him play in the playoffs. Do you think he
could be doing a little bit better in the regular season?
I think he can.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Could you guys be working any harder, mister Simpson?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
I think I think Jimmy Buckets could have given us
a little bit more points per game, a little bit
more than he has in the regular season. But this
is kind of who he is. And when that kind
of player is who you're up against, the last thing
you want to do is poke the bear. The last
thing you want to do is wake a guy like
that up. And that's exactly what the Celtics did tonight. Now,
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when I think of something like this, I think about
some guys that I played softball against or hockey against
during my life, where they were they were good players,
but they would just go out there to play. But
if you, you know, got in their face or did
something that really motivated them, boy, they would just be
like a buzzsaw. You'd be like, Oh, why the hell
did I wake that guy up? Why the hell did
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I say something to him? Now it's suddenly looking him Now,
now we can't stop. He just scored two goals in
the last five minutes. How the hell are we going
to win this game? Now we're wearing three to one.
Now it's tied, and he's a lunatic because somebody decided
to say something to him, getting his face after we
scored that goal. Yeah, that's usually, you know, playing in
a beer league where someone can I'm emotion I'm gonna
take off him.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I got a drendaline going for five minutes here, and
usually it ends badly. Yeah, usually because usually.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, but but this is but now now you can
pare that out and this is the NBA, And you
think guys aren't like that. No, Jimmy Buckets is like that.
The Celtics were up in the fourth quarter and it
looked like a game where they were just gonna cruise away.
Miami would go back home one one. What they wanted
to do they won game won in Boston and Grant
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Williams hits a jumper over Jimmy Butler and starts getting
in his face. Back to back possessions with Grant Williams,
head to forehead to forehead, cheek to cheek with Jimmy Butler.
Take a listen.
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Speaker 4 (05:43):
Owns the Funds Butler a bump the ground, the jolation.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Those two years.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Kenny's cut or no after that three by Grant Williams.
He was having words with Jimmy Butler on the way down.
Here's the dish by Brown and here's the shot make
by Williams. And look at the words already Williams and
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Jimmy Butler is smiling about it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Is he cut? He's cut the rush in his cut.
So Grant Williams hits a jumper that gives the Celtics
a nine point lead right ninety six eighty seven. You're
thinking this is going to be it. Jimmy Buckets then
goes for nine points in the next three minutes and
the Celtics go from up nine to down two. All right,
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Butler just takes over and becomes a different guy. He
was having just an ordinary, garden variety average playoff game.
This is not a Jimmy Butler game where he scored
thirty five. He had thirty thirty two. He was feeling it. No,
Jimmy Buckets at that point had a he had eighteen points, right,
he had sixteen points. Yeah, and you were down eight.
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But then look what happened. There's no coincidence that from
the minute Grant William's gotten Jimmy Buckett's face, the heat
outscored the Celtics twenty four to nine to end the game.
It happens because that's who Jimmy Butler is. He's just
a different dude. And you would think that teams would
know that by now, they would know, Hey, don't do this,
don't rile him up, don't get him to a point
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where suddenly he riles the rest of his team up.
In the next few minutes, we're really struggling, and that's
what happened tonight. All of a sudden, Jimmy Butler is
aggressive in the lane. He's hitting mid range. This wasn't
Jimmy Butler coming down and just start raining threes on everybody.
He's in the lane for tough mid range jumpers from
twelve thirteen fifteen feet three point play that you just
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heard right there for him. This is what he did.
And if you're the Celtics, you're say, why do we
do that? Why do we do that? Again? Certain play?
It's really hard to carry emotion over. But some guys
you just don't poke the bear. And you would think
the Celtics would have known that about Jimmy Butler by now.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Yeah, I look at the way they close out games
and there's a lot of bad shots selection, some terrible
decisions one of eight from three point range, kind of
like the Lakers in game two of their series. Sorry, Frostburg,
it maybe too soon. Stop shooting three point shots. You're
not hitting them. Drive the ball, take the ball into
the into the paint and make something happen, get to
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the line, live at the line instead of awkward bad rotation.
Four shots. But in terms of Grant Williams, a guy
that didn't play in game one, twenty six minutes here
in game two, hits the shot and decides he needs
to talk. In that moment, you know this team's not
going away, right, This isn't hey, We're up thirty and
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they've waved the white flag and Jimmy Butler's sitting there
in his sweats talking to Ludacris on the sideline. Know
this is this is You're playing down a stretch against
a team that doesn't relent, and your history in close
get like it's one of those you just lost your
mind in the moment. Just recognize time space, down distance
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opponent and that guy in Jimmy Butler who lives to
just torment you. Now, the last two years, he's been
fantastic in the playoffs. Career average in the playoffs Jason
is actually only two points higher per game than it
is in the regular season. Would you believe he's only
an eighteen point two point per game score for his
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career as he's well traveled in these NBA circles, but
it seems bigger, The games and the stakes are bigger,
and with the eyes of the NBA watching world on
him and the magnification that comes with it, and the blogs.
And I said blogs, I like saying blog music and
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the social media world that you amplifies it to a
whole other level and maybe takes it to a place
that's perhaps a bit uh inflated. But isn't that what
we do with every story at this point, and the
gravitass of every shot, every steal, every defensive possession. And
we watched that once again with the heat. You knew
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they were gonna clamp down. Now you just gave a
guy another talking point where Sposter can go. Yeah, you
got the backup point. Guard tried to talk trash. What
are you guys gonna do about it?
Speaker 5 (10:25):
So, Jimmy Grant wasn't the answer. Was he to the problem.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
He wasn't. Tell me again now, Jimmy, But no, I
just go out to play. I don't care what guys say.
I don't hear what they say on the core now
at all. I'm just out there doing no. No, yeah,
all of that is a big fat lie.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Perfect isolation here behind my wall.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Yeah, big fat lie. I don't.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
So Jimmy Grant wasn't the answer. Was he to the problem.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
He wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Oh you're waiting for me to say more, Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
He wasn't. I said no, right, okay, yeah, man, I
said no, And he's not. He really isn't. Nope, No, no.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
No, oh, you're looking for No, that's all you're getting.
Next question, Next question.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I think Jimmy wasn't. Then he's laughing.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
How much of the heat laughing? Going this going? Dude
grim and Jimmy to Gek Williams got in your face
after he hit that jumbu. Yeah, I don't know what
that dude was thinking. And then it went down and
had that three point plane that I started sticking. Those jumpers.
They start yelling at each other. They're all laughing on
the way back to Miami on the plane and sposers
standing up going, you know, you guys all suck man,
I'm the greatest coach. No, what gives me any credit
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for that? In the NBA? Look at me. I've won championships.
You guys don't know about this. We used to have
Lebron on this team. Don't lie to us, coach, No,
we did. We had Lebron. I coached him a long
time ago. We want championships. I should be the best.
Aw you guys all suck And then they start fighting
on the plane and then they start doing high knees
like Russell Wilson at thirty thousand feet as they're flying
back to Miami for Game three. They are laughing on
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the plane right now. Jimmy Celtics are all just sitting back.
They all have their headphones on, silent, silent on the
way about Walt. It's gonna listen to music, It's all right.
Not gonna play cards, not gonna not They're just gonna
sit listen to music and go to sleep.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
Jimmy wasn't the answer, was he to problem?
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Nope, he wasn't the Jimmy Butler problems. Jimmy Butler problem. Yes,
thank you, Yeah, there we go. We have that.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Do you like that answer after a win, just soft
spoken couple of words, or do you like Michael Malone better?
Speaker 6 (12:42):
It's my billion dude.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I'm sorry, man, Mike. I just didn't want him to
come and choke me out.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Mike Malone really think that little guy's gonna come choke
you out?
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Look, man, I'm a man of peace and love.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Dude, Michael Malone is malty. He's just salty that the
Nuggets aren't getting, he says Michael Malone.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Malone, he asked to be.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
Called Michael Malone. We call him Michael Malone.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Really, since when do you listen to anybody? What they
ask for.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Back when they've been back back when, way back to
coming to America. When they say, is Mama called him Clay,
I'm gonna call him Clay. That's he has to be
called Michael. We call him Michael.
Speaker 6 (13:24):
You know what, Francisco Lindor wanted to be called Francisco Lindor.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
But when he struck out and did that that play,
that's not what you called him.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No, it's true.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
No, I called him you such and so forth.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Juri did exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, choice words for you.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
I did.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
I had some choice, Michael Malone.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
That's my.
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Hey speaking of legends, right, like, we we've talked a
lot about Jim Brown tonight who passed away today at
the age of eighty seven. And we've talked about I
gave you my Jim Brown story. I wouldn't be doing
what I do for a living if it wasn't for
Jim Brown. H you find them the best of podcasts.
(14:31):
It was I really I think about that story a lot.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, even when you did your best to botch it, Yeah,
I did.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
I did my best. I did my best. I want
I I had a Jim Brown scoop and a big
story thirty years ago and my first story I ever
covered in college and it was a very big deal
and I got the fever to be in the media
after that. It's like I got the fever. Now I
got a fever, you know. We we talked about that.
We talked about his who was comp would be as
great as running back as he was. But when you
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think of about athletes who have been able to make
the transition to acting, right, Jim Brown was the first guy,
right because he went I'm you know, I'm in the
middle of my NFL career. Oh, by the way, I'm
doing dirty doesn't one of the most famous action movies
of all time, right, And and it's become an iconic movie.
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He's become an iconic figure in that, and then he
did other big movies too, And you know, the one
I've been thinking about all day, you and I talked
about a little bit was him being Fireball in The
Running Man, which, honestly, I know, you know, look, everybody
loves The Terminator and Terminator too and all these things,
but I gotta say, man, I think Predator and Running
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Man are my two favorite Schwarzenegger movies. And he has
an unbelievable role in Running Man as one of the
what do they call him, the stalkers. You know what
he's He's the big, he's the big you know, Fireball,
He's the big fireball to wardrobe, Fireball to wardrobe, and
he's you know, he's got he's got the big flame
throwers out. I mean, it was awesome, Like here's Jim Brown,
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you know, in the middle of this movie as one
of the big you know, quote bad guys in it.
I mean that's some kind of run because usually guys
go from from from playing and big time sports, like
when you're playing in football, you're playing in in baseball
or basketball, you go do movies now and again, you
ken you got to fit in around your sched You
see a lot of wrestlers do it now. But it's
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much easier for wrestlers to fit things into their schedule
because Okay, I'm gonna miss these two pay per views.
I'll be back for the next pay per view. There's
a pay per view every eight miss this time, Yeah,
he'll We're gonna write you out for a coup up go,
you know, like like Becky Lynch had the baby come
back and then you so we'll write you out.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
So what they're doing with her guy Seth Rollins right now,
he's for the Marvel Universe.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Now that's right. Okay, so we're gonna right set out.
Then we're gonna get him back in. But the guys
that have come in and be able to have that
kind of career over a long period of time, there's
not that many. And he was great at it. Him.
Him and Carl Weathers are probably the two biggest athletes
turned actors that that that you have such incredible memorable roles,
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like big time roles in movies, not just cameos. You know,
John Seen It was great and train Wreck, but he's
in it for about five minutes, right, he's got about
you know what, he's got two and a half minutes
of screen time and.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
The Furious series, Yeah own Peacemaker and the.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah yeah, but he's yeah, but again he's a wrestler,
so he can make more time. But certain guys when
they come in, oh they're great. You know, they don't
have to carry a movie. And like Jim Brown's gotta
you know, you know, carried a couple of the just
like Carl Weathers helped carry Rocky. Like Rocky wouldn't have
been the movie it was if you didn't have Carl
Weathers being such a great quote villain. And then he
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turns not villain and then he dies and I mean
in the movie and it's very sad and now he's
grief Karga. So there's all these things that happened. But
the two of them, you think about that, they were
the first couple of guys. Between the two of them, Hey,
we're going from from sports was Carl Weathers played football
in the NFL. He became an act Jim Brown went
from being the best football player anybody'd ever seen to Yeah,
I'm done, I'm gonna go acting right now. It's the
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decision that that would be unbelieve unbelievably shocking. Now, it
would be the equivalent of Andrew Luck if he was
even better, right, you know, deciding to quit playing football
at the age of twenty nine. Not that Andrew Luck
wasn't great, but he wasn't the best quarterback in the
NFL by far. Jim Brown was the best football player,
the best running back in the game by far, coming
off another MVP and him quitting'd be like a better
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Andrew Luck if he retired when he's twenty nine years old.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
Yeah, I mean, you look at what the Lions had
to go through with Barry Sanders, and you could you
could argue about how many viable, like elite years that
Calvin Johnson had left at the end of his career,
but two guys that walked away. You go through the
rest of the annals of history with big stars in
sports moving into celluloid. You gotta mention Burt Reynolds, right,
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who was a college star not to the pro level
but till that transition. And the great Father Murphy Merlin
Olson or mister Papadopolis and Alex Karras once suspended for gambling.
I mean, all of those things. Fred the Hammer Williamson.
I mean, there's so many guys, Baba Smith, the legends,
but not that they stepped away from their careers. They
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had some roles and appearances mixed therein our guy Ben
Maller's buddy Fred Dryer, and we could do this all day.
But Jim Brown was the guy that broke that mold. Right.
Other guys had had it, Johnny weiss Mueller in Such Tarzan,
he want to go all the way back then. But
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when Jim Brown stepped away in the manner that he did,
he's like, whoa who steps away from being not only
a star in a league and still seemingly having a
number of years left, But when you're at the top
of the game, just saying I can go make more money,
to go throw punches on a movie screen and get
the girl. I mean, good for him. Obviously a lot
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of issues that you make him a much more complicated figure.
But for the purpose of this argument, yeah, and discussion
that this is what led to all of these guys
getting a shot