February 6, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason explains that not only did the Lakers become title contenders; they set up their long-term future for the next decade with Luka Doncic, Mark Williams & Austin Reaves as their Big 3. The guys react to the Jimmy Butler to the Golden State Warriors trade and how that compares in value to the Luka and AD trade. Plus, Jason explains why it’s ridiculous to think that the Heat got more in return than the Mavericks getting Anthony Davis back in exchange for Luka.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm gonna ask by, Hey, why do I got to
be the scrub closer?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
How about how about I'm Alonzo this time?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You're a pretty good closer. Man. Well, because Alonzo's my guy,
he's my team, that'd be so so I'm Alonzo. You
see see Ricky Bobby. If I'm I'm am Alonzo, can
you be Alonzo like I'm I'm Alonzo and you're you're
You're got to be Alonso earlier. You're Alonzo.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Just wait for Jake to shoot you in the ass.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Love shoot dot Com Studio. Shoot it. I'll kick you
in the back of the head.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yes, the Mets make the move that we long thought
was gonna happen. Our long national nightmare is over. Pete Alonzo,
one of the last of the great free agents left,
finally has a home as we get set for spring training.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, I mean, would you have cried if he left?
Like depending on these said?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Only is a third deal to become a you know,
the last man on the bench.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Stop, What did I tell you? I said goodbye to
Alonzo was right when he hired Scott Boris as his oath.
You didn't, really, That's when I knew. However long we
have him, it's gonna be great. But Boris is gonna
take him and somebody else is going to want to
spend a lot of money. He's gonna go someplace else.
Boris doesn't usually bring his guys back to the same team.
That doesn't normally happen. You don't usually see guys resign.
(02:18):
So I said goodbye to him. Then when he hit
the home run, off the Williams. I said, give them
a hundred million dollars for next year. I don't care
give him a hundred million died. I did that home run.
It's the biggest home run in the history of the franchise.
Oh my god, I still listen to that home run.
I listened to that the Mets ninth inning of that
game against the Brewers. Driving to work the other night
when I was sucking traffic, I just said, let me
let it's here twenty minutes and here's how he rose
(02:40):
that the whole top of the ninth in in the
Mets and the Brewers, and it's it's glorious. I just again,
and I watched the highlight again. I mean, it's such
a great thing. But no, but I said goodbye to
him because I knew he wasn't coming back. Then, as
I saw things going, I thought, oh maybe, Oh, other
guys are out there, other guys are going other places.
They're not making a lot of money. Event she's gonna
come back. I was just hoping it wasn't going to
(03:01):
be a case of he holds him out so long.
We get into spring training, we get in close to
the season, and Alonso trying to come back, winds up,
getting hurt, pulls a hamstring or something like that, and
then he winds up. So I'm just that was my
biggest fear was that where he's the day before the
regular season, he's gonna sign, you know, and that's gonna
be it. But instead, now it's still a few days
(03:22):
before spring training. Look, he's been working out with Sean
Manea all off season, right, they've been where he's been
working out with his teammates everything else. So at least now, hey,
everything is fine. They get the spring training and normal
spring training and the injury thing hopefully fingers crossed. I
don't have to worry about it, won't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I really enjoy that though, justin that suddenly it's the hey,
he's gotta have a hamstriak saying he doesn't run.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, so what the hell's the difference? But he's got
to run around the base if it's a home mark,
I mean, he's gotta.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Worry about that little little truck, same gate. It's like
the same swing carca Ice had.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
All those years, just.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
A matter of whether you hit his bat or not.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
With Alonzo, You're like, I don't know, he's gonna pull
a hamsug or something like, really, that's not my concern.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You would have been a wreck.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, dude, I've been seller.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
At the end of Dodgeball, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you wanna know something for the ride home? Right
here we go. My milksay brings on the boys to
the yard and they're like, it's better than you're Uh so,
Pete Alonzo is a Met And the online shopping I'm
gonna do in approximately one hour, my credit card is
going to be smoking. I'm so, did you not buy
that hat yet? Not yet, because I'm not afraid they
(04:32):
were gonna.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Sell out of that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, They're not. Is I
got a lot of things in different carts. I'm like,
you know, let me just let me just I don't
want to make a make a rush decision, right Like
I should have bought that hoodie before I bought that hat.
I should have bought that. So it's just I just
gotta wait a little bit. It's gotta you know, make
sure you know three.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Hours of do you get an extra discount being the
only one on the website.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Hey, that Mets guy is back on eBay. Hey, make
sure you put your stuff up. Make sure you offerm it,
this cart a bargain because he'll buy it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's that guy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I think Cohen brings it to your door and the
hand delivers it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now with that going on, right, that was the big
move that happened right as we came on the air tonight,
and then we got some incredible moves brandon ingram Is
dealt from the Pelicans to the Raptors. We talked about
this last hour on the show. The Raptors could wind
up being the new Rockets, right, a team that got
to the heights they needed to get to, and then
they had to rebuild, and after a year or two
(05:31):
they gelled pretty fast and suddenly, very quietly, they're at
the top of the Western Conference. Same thing could happen
with the Raptors with Quickly and RJ Barrett. Now you're
throwing an all star in there. Great great move. But
the Lakers move that they made about an hour ago
getting Mark Williams from the Hornets in exchange for Dalton connect,
Camraddish and a couple of picks. Look, I get that
(05:54):
he's a name that not a lot of people know
because it's the Hornets, and he's young. He's been in
the league of couple of years. But this kid is
so talented. He's one of the best of the young
big men in the game. And already he's blossomed into
a seventeen and ten guy. He's the guy been in
the league three years. He has some injury, some injury
issues that he's had, but as you know you mentioned
(06:15):
a few minutes ago, Dan Weiki, Lakers insider friend of
the show, said, Hey, they're pretty confident that his back
issues are behind him now and it's time to trot
out that old Hey, remember, the Lakers have kind of
always had a center, no matter what you say about them,
and then when they've had Lebron or Kobe or Magic,
the Lakers have always had a center, right, whether it
(06:36):
was Wilt to Kareem, to Vlotty sort of to Shack
to bind him, Okay, not really, to Dwight Howard, Okay,
not really, to Anthony Davis who hated playing center but
was great at it. Okay, fort Al gamble, and now
you've heldon Gampbell had a good run. The less said
about the early nineties Lakers, I think the better. But
(06:58):
now you know, they get back to having a center,
and you know, if you think, Okay, Mark waives a
great ad. I mean, people are going to start seeing
this deal and seeing what a great move it is.
But honestly, this is the second part of setting the
Lakers up for the next ten years, because now how
many more years of Lebron have left? Probably three, right,
I mean, I mean it's hard to say at forty
(07:20):
years old, but the guy really is not slowing down.
He's still playing the same level he wasn't he was
thirty eight, thirty seven. I mean again, it's incredible what
he's doing at forty. Nobody else in the history of
sports has played this well at the age of forty.
But you get out of the Lebron era, because now
we're out of the ad era, Right, We're out of Lebron.
Now we're getting out of the out of the the
ad era, And what are the Lakers going to look like?
(07:41):
The big three is Luca and now Williams and Austin Reeves.
That's the Lakers Big three. So now they're going forward
for the better part of the next decade and these
are their guys, and suddenly it's whoa the Lakers just
redid there? Yes? For now being a championship contender. But
my goodness, did they just set their future up because
(08:04):
these are the three guys they're gonna build around for
the next decade. To do that in a week is amazing.
I mean sometimes it takes teams years to do this. Right, Well,
we get a good draft pick this year, then we'll
throw another good draft pick on that next year. Then
the year after that, we'll make a trade for somebody,
And it takes like two or three years to try
to get a big three like this together. Well the
(08:24):
Lakers say, hey, all right, in a week, it's like, okay,
now we have our guys. Now we have our big
three going forward. And really it is something to be
able to do this. And now you can never tell
me again the rest of my life. Oh, we can't
make a trade. Can't make a trade, can't ma, it's
just impossible. We can't make the money. We're knada. There's
always ways to make a trade. When I hear a
GM say I can't do it, we could matter, that's
(08:47):
a lazy GM who wasn't able to either a figure
out stuff involving other teams or b was afraid to
make a trade. Because you can always make a deal.
You can do it. But somehow the Bucks today were
able to get cut Well, Kuzma, trade away Chris Middleton,
who is older than Kuzma, injured and owed more money
than Kuzma. In the next two years they got the better.
(09:09):
But it's not like, hey, here's Middleton and will give
you like eight first round picks. No, it was basically,
oh wow, it's Middleton here for Kyle Kuzma. They were
able to make that happen. Right, The Spurs were able
to get the Aaron Fox without having to trade Castle
or Vosslyn and any of their other young players and Johnson.
They were able to make this happen. So don't tell
me that we can't make a trade, because obviously you
(09:30):
see teams get creative enough, they make deals like this happen.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I am in the age Old Adage, the Art of
the Deal. You look it up.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You may find books written by your current president with
that title, as well as many others that have used
it through the years of all right, you have either
a distressed property or you got a guy that you
think is underutilized with the talent surrounding him. My jobs
to pitch you that he doesn't work for you, and
(09:59):
that you just need to get rid of him, because
it's not it's dragging you down, right, That's what I
gotta do as a GM or I just hold them.
See if I can hold my breath a little longer,
Like you're Jimmy Butler against big bad pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That's the most fun of the day.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It'll never give up well, you know whatever for Williams,
for your guy Brandon Ingram, Right, all of these things,
it's just a matter of whether they hold up health wise. Right,
you get a little bit of the concerns and maybe
that's what makes them available for trade. With Williams, some
of the per and some of the advanced metrics. You're like,
(10:37):
all right, how much of that is him? How much
of that is coming off injury? How much of that
is a surrounding cast. You go through and you say,
all right, with our squad, we can get the best
out of them. For you know, going back to that
trade to the Raptors. For Ingram, it's the all right
because his body hold up right, He's missed a lot
of games the last couple of years. But if it
(10:59):
played out well, then then it's a pretty good bet.
And it gives you a little bit of a launching pad.
But all of that to say, yeah, it's creativity.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
We've talked a lot about the aprons and trying to
understand the new rules of the NBA, because once upon
a time it was really Jason, what was it?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
All?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
We gotta make the salaries match. Everybody, get out your calculator.
Is that within the acceptable threshold of percentages? Or do
they have to you know, include Keith van Horn's contract again,
or requisite requisite veteran. It's kind of like baseball now.
Every once in a while it's like, wait, that guy
hasn't played a couple of years. Yeah, but he was
(11:36):
still on the books. You know, we got to include
his contract here. But it's just just that, you know,
being aggressive, Like I Mark Stein joined us last hour
and catch the podcast. It'll go up next hour. Justin
and Alex will have that up the full conversation. But
I've always agreed with him. We've talked about it being
(11:57):
aggressive and taking big swim. You have to be willing
to fail, right, you're trying to see the peace. It's
the beautiful mind kind of thing. Russell Crowe standing there
and you know you're seeing all the numbers they're not
really there. It's all this head right, but but it's
that kind of thing of all right, I can see
(12:18):
how this puzzle is gonna fit and if it works right,
and sometimes it doesn't. Injuries, inconsistency, guys that just don't
get along, other a million things can happen. But you
get to a trade deadline, and if the math as
fuzzy as it is with the NBA, if you can
get it within reason, you know you're gonna get guys
(12:40):
to take a swing. And as soon as the Luca
trade went down, like you you're calling me and we're
going back and forth, and it's like, you know, this
really kind of opens the door and what did you hear?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, now front office is looking at the world through
a completely different lens of we're not stuck with the guy.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We're not, you know, beholden to any of these you
know contracts that that we've signed that these guys have
to ride them out here, and then we know what what,
you know, whatever comes we'll deal.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
With then say no, let's let's shuffle it up and
see if we can't go for broke.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Now I love it, and look, if this is the
beginning of a new era of NBA basketball. And for
all the ratings issues, I mean, I can't sell it
as a TV show watching insiders answer their phones, but
damn it, the results have been pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, you know. And and the thing is about this trade,
right because the Dalton connect angle of it is something
that's really interesting because this was this was somebody who
was supposed to be the next great Laker, right, the
guy Lebron wanted, the guy that was going to be
their future. And early on in the college guy, Yeah,
he had a couple of big games and suddenly, yeah,
he can go for Mark Williams. Somehow he he he
(13:56):
fell out of favor, fell out of the rotation. It's
not like Brawny started to take his minutes would have
been something. But he almost became expendable in this right,
he almost became well, if we're gonna get but we
have enough shooters, now, we have enough offense. Now. He
really became expendable. You know. It's it's I think it
would have been a little bit more pause if he
was still a big member of the rotation. But he
(14:16):
wasn't anymore. You know, it wasn't the beginning of the year.
And so now Okay. It's almost like in fantasy where
you say, oh, I'm this guy's on my bench. I
can trade him because I'm not playing him that much.
So I mean, if Connect was still playing, I think
it would have been a different thing. But hey, he's
not part of rotation. We still have been playing really well,
the best record we've had in the regular season in
the last four years, and now we can add uh
(14:38):
and and complete our big three for the next decade.
Let's go do it. Man. This is to quote Mark
Stein with us, this is an absolute home run for
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I've said, Jason, you like him, you don't love him,
and you're looking at two windows.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Whatever Lebron's is left and the future thereafter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
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Stop not on Peter Alonzo Day, not on Peter Alonzo
coming back. They stop with that, stop with that. Well,
Peter Alonzo came back, the Met signed him. We thought
it was gonna happen, and now he's here and we're
winning the World Series. There you go there, But he
never really left. Well, he was kind of leaving. He's
(17:05):
sort of he's sort of left. It's kind of like
if you break up with somebody who says I just
need a little bit of time doesn't mean I want
to break up. It just means I need some me
time right now, and they're okay, and then you bite
your nails for a month or so and then hey, no,
I want to get back together. I took care of
my issues probably now let's get back to Oh okay, great,
So do we technically really break up? Ay? Maybe no
(17:28):
one knows what you did that month while we're up.
We're better in that month.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Might have been some crazy stuff going on and Alonzo
did nothing.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Jason, when I gave you this pen A Lonzo story
at the top of the show, yeah, it wasn't for
you to do multiple times.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well, it's a big story, Frostburg, I mean different, It's
the biggest story in the world right now, maybe the world.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Whoa, whoa, come on now, well, sure it is biggest time.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm looking at things like he's got blood on his hands.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Wow, I mean, that's why he keeps trying to sanitize
it by talking about how great this is.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So we started the show with Pete Alonzo signing with
the Mets, and in the middle of the show we
got two big, big NBA stories Trade deadline coming up
just about fourteen hours from now, brandon Ingram goes to
the Raptors and the Lakers get Mark Williams from the
Hornets in a big trade that involved Dalton connect So
(18:24):
just today we have seen brandon Ingram all Star get
dealt all right, Williams is one of the best young
centers in the game. Kyle Kuzma goes to the Milwaukee
Bucks and Jimmy Butler gets dealt to the Golden State Warriors.
This on the heels of Luca and AD's trade over
the weekend, and there's a really big thing that Luca
(18:46):
and Ad trade is going to usher in in the
NBA now. And it goes back to where we saw
Jokic and Steph kind of allude to it in the
last twenty four hours, where they were asked their opinions
and they said, no one is safe, no one is safe.
No one said, well, what do you mean, No one's safe?
And anybody can be traded. Okay, Well, in theory anybody
(19:07):
can be traded at any time. Only a couple of
players have no trade clauses, so all right, anybody can
get dealt at anytime, which I thought was kind of
weak by jokichen Steph because it's like, oh, you're not
gonna be mad if other players get traded to your team, right,
like Steph Curry, go, no, anybody traded in time. I
don't think Steph Curry's upset. They got Jimmy Butler and
Jimmy Butler is a guy that now I gotta move
(19:28):
my life again and move it across country and everything else.
You're okay that getting players? Just all if I get traded,
all I don't want that. That's not right. No, just stop.
But they did hit on something that you are going
to see now without fail Luca and Ad trade, the
next trend is going to see now superstar players. I
(19:50):
don't just mean star players, but superstar players are going
to get dealt much more regularly than they ever have
been before because you need to trade like this to
sort of break the ice on it. Because certain players,
even though you didn't think they were going to get traded,
they were always viewed as untouchable. Right there, there's a
good twenty players in the league. You would think, okay, yeah,
(20:12):
these guys are kind of untouchable. Man may maybe ten,
ten or fifteen players are are untouchable. But now, uh
that's out the window. Because the Mavericks, even though they're
getting a lot of criticism now because they traded Luca, hey,
let's not forget for all the criticism. They got back
an All NBA player, Right, They got back the best
player they were possibly going to get in getting a
(20:33):
d back. Okay, So so just understand that was a
good trade. They got back what they needed to get
back because they weren't gonna sign Luca long term and
he didn't want to be there. So yeah, they got
the best guy they could possibly get. They got a
star player. But I can see now in the next
few years, like I can look and say, if the
(20:54):
Sixers continue to be bad, I can see Maxi and
Embiid both getting dealt. Right, Kevin Durant's probably gonna trade
it at some point. Again, if the Timberwolves never become
the great team they're supposed to become, I can see
Anthony Edwards get traded. I could see Devin Booker get dealt.
I can see Kate Cunningham get traded by the Pistons.
If suddenly the money is too much and the Pistons
(21:14):
don't wind up getting to a point where they look
like they're gonna contend the biggest players in the game,
you're gonna start seeing them get traded because teams are
gonna go, hey, it's not that big a deal. And
if we're coming up to a point where, boy, this
guy is due a lot of money that we're not
sure we want to pay. And I don't mean just
suddenly guys are gonna get traded because a GM wakes
up one Danes. I'm gonna trade my star. But if
(21:36):
their circumstances, like, hey, this guy's do a lot of money, man,
and I don't know if we want to give him
four hundred million dollars over the next however many years, Yeah,
we're gonna move him. We're gonna for whatever reason we're
gonna move him, whether we don't think he's gonna be
the same player, whether he's getting too old, whether he's
too injured. And suddenly these stars are gonna get moved
(21:56):
and superstars are gonna get moved. So that was kind
of if that's kind of what what Jokic and Steph
were getting at. Yeah, that's gonna be an eerror where
you can you can see trades like that made a lot,
and I mean it, in the next few years, all
those guys I mentioned, I can see them get dealt
if suddenly the money is too much or the team
is not contending, they're looking for a complete reboot and
(22:18):
they need other things Like that's going to happen. You're
gonna see guys get traded. You would never think in
a million years could get delt. Look, we woke up, sat, well,
that's not happening. We woke up Saturday and it was hey, man,
I can't believe this. So Luca, Luca just got trade.
I mean, the fact that we saw a top three
player in the NBA get dealt tells you that just
(22:39):
about anybody can get traded. The only guy I would
say right now, the two players I would say would
absolutely be untradeable are probably Wemby and Gilgess Alexander. I mean,
Jokic is getting to be thirty. You don't know what
his situation is gonna be like, you know how he's
going to age. I could see Yannis saying I'm done
in Milwaukee. I want out and I need to get
(22:59):
somewhere because I want to go win a title. Like
I could see. I could see it happening. I could
see these guys something going on where Hey, okay, you
wouldn't think these guys ever be out there, but here
they are. They're out there to get traded.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, and especially.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Because Yanna said Joki wants the Jokic on the Knicks.
So now that that's out there, we can make that happen.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, just kind of threw what he wanted.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He's started just throwing euros into the bigger US cities.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But that's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I think the larger things that come out of it. Right,
we talk about Bradley Beal and what a pain in
the ass that's been for the Suns, which is how
a lot of the Kevin Durant rumors started to spin out,
Like you follow it of all right, we need to
shake something up, and this guy's not even like open
to listening, so we're kind of stuck. We got to
pivot over here, right and look at and see what
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the market is. And KD obviously doesn't want to go.
But look, there's still fourteen hours. Anything can happen for Jokic,
for Steph. You know, it's the lamentation of a change
of doing business. I would be curious if, you know,
you start getting into negotiations where you don't necessarily go
back to the NBA. You know, the players going to
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the two in one or three and two, you know,
option option shorter contracts, but if they don't give back
something so that they do get some limited no trade
protections in there. But a lot of it is again
turnover in in management in gms. It's not quite as
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bad as the NFL, where we seemingly shuffle coaches and
gms at about a what eighteen month clip for about
half the teams in the league anymore, shuffle up and deal, Hey,
what's your direction?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm gonna get fired by the end of the year,
so I'm not really giving. So you got a little
of that that goes on. But I think it's good
for the game that you do get this little good
and evil kind of battle back and forth about roster
shuffling players for the last decade or so of deciding, hey,
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operation shutdown and look that's still winning, all right, Jimmy
Butler got his way, got his extension, et cetera. But
maybe you know, we we meet in the middle somewhere
where you know, gms, when they see an obvious fix
in the marketplace, can feel empowered to go get it,
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knowing that there's going to be backlash. And I think
that's the other part, right, is you know, job security
and getting the backing of your ownership group to go
be bold. And how many how many teams truly have that?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
How many? How many guys truly have that? All right? Yeah,
you think this is gonna do it? All right?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
We take a short term hit. I mean, look what
Dallas did right. Not to belabor the point, but the
refund idea. I get at your hospitality. People make people happy,
shake hands, kiss babies, whatever. But if legitimately all people
are getting back is two grand, like you know, you've
got bigger fish to fry in the marketplace. But it's
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just the the idea that, okay, we have to do that,
and that's that's the public response of us trying to
win long term because you like the Luca jersey you.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Bought that much. You know.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's those kind of things, you know, trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well someone wear seventy seven again? Just will anybody wear
seventy seven again? Can I wear this? We'll give you.
We'll give you a new name patch.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
We promise.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh that exit out about a Fresca exit swallen down
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All the breakdown we've had tonight of all the big
moves in the NBA, NFL stuff will be there in
about a half hour from now. Time now to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports from
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someone who's been called the Nakola Jokic of Fox Sports
Radio all the tools, but says no one is safe.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's right. Uh luka.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Doncic is expected to make his Lakers debut this Saturday
against the Pacers, so that game is now going to
air on ESPN Tip Office at four Eastern. But I
gotta tell you, Jason what what game got got?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But did the did the Clippers get pushed off?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, it was not the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I was about to give you a compliment.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Non okay, No, I'm gonna tell you what, Tony, when
the when the Luca trade happened, I was laughing at
it was the best Twitter I've ever seen. Like people
were just hilarious, but your tweet had me rolling. I
even sent it to my brothers when you were like,
I'm calling everyone like I just had a kid and
I died died laughing because it was just so accurate
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as to what was happening.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And I literally I sent it to my brothers.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I was like, this is one of my coworkers and
I could not stop laughing.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh okay, yeah, no, it's so good.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It brought out the best in Twitter that and I
really did, like it was so good.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It was so good.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
But Jimmy Butler's you guys are gonna talk about how
good is this trade? He is headed to the Warriors
on a multi team trade. Andrew Wiggins, PJ Tucker, Kyle
Anderson are headed to the Heat. Dennis Shredter is headed
to the Jazz. Butler is declining his twenty twenty five
twenty six player option to agree to a new two
year deal with the Warriors. The Lakers are trading Dalton
connect Cam Reddish, a twenty thirty one unprotected first round
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pick and a twenty thirty pickswap to the Hornets for
center Mark Williams. The Pelicans have trade Brandon Ingram to
the Raptors. The Knicks are training senator Jericho sim but
it's part of that Bucks trade with the Wizards where
Kyle Kuzma and Chris Middleton were swapped. Lonzo Ball and
the Bulls have agreed to a two year, twenty million
dollar contract extension. Scores in the NBA on Wednesday night,
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Shay gil Jes Alexander dropped another fifty points as the
thunder crushed the Suns one forty to one oh nine.
Darius Garland hit the game winning logo three as the
Cavs beat the Pistons one eighteen to one fifteen. Darren Fox,
in his Spurs debut, had twenty four points and thirteen assists.
In San Antonio edged Atlanta one twenty six to one
twenty five. Anthony Edwards had forty nine points and nine
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rebounds as the Timberwolves outscored the Bulls one twenty seven
to one oh eight. Nikola Jokic had thirty eight points.
Michael Porter Junior had thirty nine points, and the Nuggets
took down the Pelicans one forty four to one nineteen.
The Grizzlies beat the Raptors, the Heat took down the
seventy six ers, the Wizards beat the Nets, the Magic
took down the Kings in Sacramento won thirty to one eleven,
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and the Jazz had a one thirty one to one
twenty eight win over the Warriors. In men's college hoops,
Number two do Cus win's sixteen in a row after
defeating Syracuse eighty three to fifty four, while Rutgers upset
Number twenty three Illinois eighty two to seventy three. And
in baseball, Pete Alonso and the Mets are in agreement
on a two year deal worth fifty four million. The
deal includes a ten million dollars signing bonus, and it
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includes an opt out after the first season. What to night, guys,
Let's do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Thanks a bunch of Monzi. We'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, Dow Great things.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the tairaq
dot Com Studios. Now, she mentioned Jimmy Butler, who got
his long awaited deal today sent to the Warriors, proving
that if you hold your breath, then stand in the
corner long enough and stamp your feet, you're going to
get what you want. Now, the thing is look, and
it's really this is a great day because I could
say the teams that were aggressive, I loved all the
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moves they made. I even like for all the criticism
I give the Warriors and how they should have traded
step away rather than but I get it. I like
this move because it's the first of what I expect
to be big moves over the course of the next
few months. Because they get Jimmy Butler, and is Butler
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going to be someone who's a difference maker for them
this year?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Right, they traded away. They traded away Wiggins. Right, they
traded away. They gave away a couple of plays. You know,
Shrewder is now on the move. He's going to the
Jazz as part of this deal. But they gave away
a few players. This is not the case where Jimmy
Butler suddenly gets the Warriors over the top. But this
is a move that's made for the two years after this,
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because not only did they get Jimmy Butler, but they
gave him that huge hundred and twenty million dollars two
year extension for the next two years after this, because
the real window for the Warriors, they know, is over
the next two seasons, right, whatever they do else between
now and the deadline, what they do in free agency
in the offseason, this is this is why it's just
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an incomplete move. Getting Jimmy Butler is a nice first move,
but they gotta do more. And the reason why I
like it is because as much as it looked like
Jimmy Butler was washed, how many guys have we seen
looked washed because they just don't care anymore about the
team they're playing for, And then suddenly they get a
trade and they look like it's five years ago. Like,
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how much does Jimmy Butler was? He done with the
heat and suddenly he was sort of on a decline
over the course of the last year, getting suspended three times.
I'm willing to say I've seen this movie enough, Mike,
whether it was James Harden or anybody else where. Hey,
they look like they're done and look like they're just
gonna fade into oblivion. But now suddenly they get a
trade and they look like they did five years ago.
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And wow, Jimmy Butler looks like he scored thirty five.
Butler had thirty eight tonight. He looks like he's that
guy again. So I've seen it enough to know that
Jimmy Butler is one of those guys. We've seen it
throughout his career.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Right, We've seen it a lot with him.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He finds his way, he finds his way out of
as old of a situation where he can't be anymore,
and then things are great in his new location for
a while. So those two reasons I like why the
Warriors did what they did today.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Bullish for it, right, and if they can creep into
the back end and into the play play in uh tournament,
we we might get some fireworks, right.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, whether it's be him and Draymond getting after
it on the court, but you suddenly get a guy
who will hold the young guys to task, sometimes maybe
a bit too aggressively and abrupt uh in his in
his and Kurt like he's the wolf in his assessments.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But I like the boldness.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Obviously he gets what he wants. So it's it's kind
of funny because everybody just said, you know, pat Riley's
gonna win forever. But for the Warriors, it extends a
window that looked like it was closing. There are a
couple of fake insider accounts that are talking about Steph
demanding a trade, so.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Don't fall for those. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Uh And Steve Kerr did his requisite complaining about the
timing of the trade deadline, so uh, we at least
got him back to being a whiner.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, it's amazing you talking about Everybody always loves
bold moves, right, I love that bold move, except when
it comes to the Netvericks trading. Luca, I don't like it,
but that was bold. It was the boldest of all
the bold moves. Yeah, no, but I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well again, I mean we we've diminished Anthony Davis. Remember
he's he's a bum, no show though the Mavericks got
nothing in the deal, nothing discernible. I may have heard
that take a few times over the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And that after all the trades the Lakers made, Guys,
Lebron might play for decades.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You might be playing when he's fifty.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
A lot of people are really salty that Dalton connect
is no more a Laker.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
It'll be okay, exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
Coming up next, our final thoughts on the biggest trade
of the day and something we have to get into
that happened today in the NBA. A big move made
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Speaker 2 (35:06):
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Speaker 1 (35:18):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon Livethetireck dot Com Studios. Now you've avoided
this for the last couple hours, Harmon, but we we
got to get into this here. You know, NBA trade
deadline coming up about thirteen or so hours from now.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know every year your bulls don't trade anybody, They
don't trade for anybody. They're just content with sucking with
talented guys on the team they have. They said no, no, no,
like something's going to change. You've had this big three
that you've had for the left that they all they think, right,
your team is terrible. You don't trade anybody, you don't
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trade anybody away. Yet today you decide, Oh, Lonzo Ball,
who has barely come back to the league for the
first time in years, let's sign him for two more years.
I mean, what what are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I mean one of them, it's two for twenty. I
mean the second year is a player option. By the way,
your nick didn't do anything, so shut up.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We still left time. We still left time to go time.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, we've trade away, traded away every player that we
possibly can, so I don't know, I think he's still
left some guys you could trade away, all right, Well,
I mean you gotta build with something. I mean, you know,
you look at a beatdown at the hand of the
the t Wolves. I mean, buzalis Is, it looks like
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he could be a player. Vucevic could still be on
the outs. He's gonna get delt tomorrow, Okay, ten and
eleven night, And they still love Kobe White.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I guess, Josh. I mean, there's a couple of guys.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I feel like this has been the same team since
twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No, it's very very similar.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, No, no, No, it's just a cycling through. Occasionally you
get a splash like hey, DeRozan's a bull.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And not for long.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
They can only sign players on Scottie Pippins's pit money
not much to go around.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
No, that is absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That boy passing the collection play, you're gonna you're gonna
come up short. But yeah, you say sent Levine out.
But yeah, Lonzo ball. It's a feel good story. Yeah,
I don't know do the history of the draft. I mean,
you got a couple of guys that are that are interesting,
but are they any good?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They're twenty two and thirty after the loss tonight Jalen Smith, Right,
he was with Phoenix. Look like he's on the cup
fourteen off the bench tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
That's great. Yeah, you lost by by nineteen.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yay, So now as we get sens for the rest
of the trade deadline?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Right, yeah, Hey, I'll always have the nineties.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
By the way, you'll never have true you will have
the night. Yet you'll never have a decade like I
lived that year. That No, you you you'll never have
a decade like you had had that year. That's right,
I mean it felt like a year. I mean because
it was just so exciting from pillar to post, like
you sure.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Look, we've talked about the Lakers and this Mark Williams move,
and they've got their big three for the next decade
now with Luca and Reeves. And I'll double down on
what I said last night that this really reminds me
when they got pau Gasol and they just took off
running right away, and I expect them to take off
running white right away. You know you telling you man,
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I'm just I'm just getting this, getting that. I'm just
getting nice. We said it last night, man, We're just
getting that. But the deal that I really want to
see right that I of more than anything tomorrow right now,
Kevin Durant, it probably is not going anywhere, right. We
had Mark Stein joining us saying after what happened today,
Kevin Durant's probably not going anywhere. He told the Warriors
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he was not interested in the reunion. So there he's
sitting in Phoenix. The deal where I would love to
see k D go right is and and it's it's
a tough fit because hey, any team that it's that
close to winning a championship, you might have to give
up a little bit too. Much for Kevin Durant. He's
a guy that's going to come in and just score, right.
He's still a great scorer. Thirty five years only thirty five,
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thirty six, he still does that at an elite level.
I would love to see him go to the Pistons.
I really would, man, This is a great story in
the NBA. The Pistons are suddenly okay after years of
being just absolutely terrible. Suddenly he goes there. He's the
old head on the team. He can slide right. When
you're a scorer, you can slider and assimilate really well.
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All the young guys on the team, Kate Cunningham has
become a star. Nobody would want to play them in
the playoffs. Eight on Kadi can send you home in
a series. It would be great for the NBA, It
would be great for him. Be great to see the
Pistons really gain that, and let's face it, Detroit needs
it after the Lions just really kind of, you know,
fell on their face. Kay heat to the Pistons. That's
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a trade I want to see the most.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
They're still cleaning up your mess. H. No, I agree
with you, though. I think this should be a lot
of fun. Because then we immediately start getting old footage.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Of the bad Boys, Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Beer and that other title team, but nobody talks about
those guys. Ben Wallace and those guys don't exist. But
it's kind of like the two thousand and five White Sox.
It's like, yeah, it's the World Series that never happened.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Angels.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, I know, they really don't they.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Really they don't. Yeah, commemorate that one quite so much.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Next stop stop, come on stop.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But yeah, kadda Detroit. Pair him with Kid Cunningham. You
talk about scoring for days, let's go.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, give me some of that, man. Uh if look
if we had an incredible last couple of days, an
incredible night. I can't wait to see what the next
thirteen hours brings. I can't wait to wake up tomorrow
and see maybe the Mets make another big trade. I
don't know, but I can't wait to wake up and
see what we get tomorrow. The NBA trade deadline will
have Rick Buker on the show. Another big show tomorrow
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and Twitter at how about a Fresco Mike hat swollen
dome coming up next? My buddy Ben Mallar, This is
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Speaker 3 (00:54):
I'm gonna ask by, Hey, why do I got to
be the scrub closer?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
How about how about I'm Alonzo this time?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
You're a pretty good closer. Man. Well, because Alonzo's my guy,
he's my team, that'd be so so I'm Alonzo. You
see see Ricky Bobby. If I'm I'm am Alonzo, can
you be Alonzo like I'm I'm Alonzo and you're you're
You're got to be Alonso earlier. You're Alonzo.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Just wait for Jake to shoot you in the ass.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Whoa whoa.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Love shoot dot Com Studio. Shoot it. I'll kick you
in the back of the head.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yes, the Mets make the move that we long thought
was gonna happen. Our long national nightmare is over. Pete Alonzo,
one of the last of the great free agents left,
finally has a home as we get set for spring training.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, I mean, would you have cried if he left?
Like depending on these said?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Only is a third deal to become a you know,
the last man on the bench.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
No?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Stop, What did I tell you? I said goodbye to
Alonzo was right when he hired Scott Boris as his oath.
You didn't, really, That's when I knew. However long we
have him, it's gonna be great. But Boris is gonna
take him and somebody else is going to want to
spend a lot of money. He's gonna go someplace else.
Boris doesn't usually bring his guys back to the same team.
That doesn't normally happen. You don't usually see guys resign.
(02:18):
So I said goodbye to him. Then when he hit
the home run, off the Williams. I said, give them
a hundred million dollars for next year. I don't care
give him a hundred million died. I did that home run.
It's the biggest home run in the history of the franchise.
Oh my god, I still listen to that home run.
I listened to that the Mets ninth inning of that
game against the Brewers. Driving to work the other night
when I was sucking traffic, I just said, let me
let it's here twenty minutes and here's how he rose
(02:40):
that the whole top of the ninth in in the
Mets and the Brewers, and it's it's glorious. I just again,
and I watched the highlight again. I mean, it's such
a great thing. But no, but I said goodbye to
him because I knew he wasn't coming back. Then, as
I saw things going, I thought, oh maybe, Oh, other
guys are out there, other guys are going other places.
They're not making a lot of money. Event she's gonna
come back. I was just hoping it wasn't going to
(03:01):
be a case of he holds him out so long.
We get into spring training, we get in close to
the season, and Alonso trying to come back, winds up,
getting hurt, pulls a hamstring or something like that, and
then he winds up. So I'm just that was my
biggest fear was that where he's the day before the
regular season, he's gonna sign, you know, and that's gonna
be it. But instead, now it's still a few days
(03:22):
before spring training. Look, he's been working out with Sean
Manea all off season, right, they've been where he's been
working out with his teammates everything else. So at least now, hey,
everything is fine. They get the spring training and normal
spring training and the injury thing hopefully fingers crossed. I
don't have to worry about it, won't.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I really enjoy that though, justin that suddenly it's the hey,
he's gotta have a hamstriak saying he doesn't run.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
No, so what the hell's the difference? But he's got
to run around the base if it's a home mark,
I mean, he's gotta.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Worry about that little little truck, same gate. It's like
the same swing carca Ice had.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
All those years, just.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
A matter of whether you hit his bat or not.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
With Alonzo, You're like, I don't know, he's gonna pull
a hamsug or something like, really, that's not my concern.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You would have been a wreck.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
No, dude, I've been seller.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
At the end of Dodgeball, I was.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
But you wanna know something for the ride home? Right
here we go. My milksay brings on the boys to
the yard and they're like, it's better than you're Uh so,
Pete Alonzo is a Met And the online shopping I'm
gonna do in approximately one hour, my credit card is
going to be smoking. I'm so, did you not buy
that hat yet? Not yet, because I'm not afraid they
(04:32):
were gonna.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Sell out of that.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
No no, no, no, no, no, no, They're not. Is I
got a lot of things in different carts. I'm like,
you know, let me just let me just I don't
want to make a make a rush decision, right Like
I should have bought that hoodie before I bought that hat.
I should have bought that. So it's just I just
gotta wait a little bit. It's gotta you know, make
sure you know three.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Hours of do you get an extra discount being the
only one on the website.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Hey, that Mets guy is back on eBay. Hey, make
sure you put your stuff up. Make sure you offerm it,
this cart a bargain because he'll buy it.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
That's that guy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
I think Cohen brings it to your door and the
hand delivers it.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Now with that going on, right, that was the big
move that happened right as we came on the air tonight,
and then we got some incredible moves brandon ingram Is
dealt from the Pelicans to the Raptors. We talked about
this last hour on the show. The Raptors could wind
up being the new Rockets, right, a team that got
to the heights they needed to get to, and then
they had to rebuild, and after a year or two
(05:31):
they gelled pretty fast and suddenly, very quietly, they're at
the top of the Western Conference. Same thing could happen
with the Raptors with Quickly and RJ Barrett. Now you're
throwing an all star in there. Great great move. But
the Lakers move that they made about an hour ago
getting Mark Williams from the Hornets in exchange for Dalton connect,
Camraddish and a couple of picks. Look, I get that
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he's a name that not a lot of people know
because it's the Hornets, and he's young. He's been in
the league of couple of years. But this kid is
so talented. He's one of the best of the young
big men in the game. And already he's blossomed into
a seventeen and ten guy. He's the guy been in
the league three years. He has some injury, some injury
issues that he's had, but as you know you mentioned
(06:15):
a few minutes ago, Dan Weiki, Lakers insider friend of
the show, said, Hey, they're pretty confident that his back
issues are behind him now and it's time to trot
out that old Hey, remember, the Lakers have kind of
always had a center, no matter what you say about them,
and then when they've had Lebron or Kobe or Magic,
the Lakers have always had a center, right, whether it
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was Wilt to Kareem, to Vlotty sort of to Shack
to bind him, Okay, not really, to Dwight Howard, Okay,
not really, to Anthony Davis who hated playing center but
was great at it. Okay, fort Al gamble, and now
you've heldon Gampbell had a good run. The less said
about the early nineties Lakers, I think the better. But
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now you know, they get back to having a center,
and you know, if you think, Okay, Mark waives a
great ad. I mean, people are going to start seeing
this deal and seeing what a great move it is.
But honestly, this is the second part of setting the
Lakers up for the next ten years, because now how
many more years of Lebron have left? Probably three, right,
I mean, I mean it's hard to say at forty
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years old, but the guy really is not slowing down.
He's still playing the same level he wasn't he was
thirty eight, thirty seven. I mean again, it's incredible what
he's doing at forty. Nobody else in the history of
sports has played this well at the age of forty.
But you get out of the Lebron era, because now
we're out of the ad era, Right, We're out of Lebron.
Now we're getting out of the out of the the
ad era, And what are the Lakers going to look like?
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The big three is Luca and now Williams and Austin Reeves.
That's the Lakers Big three. So now they're going forward
for the better part of the next decade and these
are their guys, and suddenly it's whoa the Lakers just
redid there? Yes? For now being a championship contender. But
my goodness, did they just set their future up because
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these are the three guys they're gonna build around for
the next decade. To do that in a week is amazing.
I mean sometimes it takes teams years to do this. Right, Well,
we get a good draft pick this year, then we'll
throw another good draft pick on that next year. Then
the year after that, we'll make a trade for somebody,
And it takes like two or three years to try
to get a big three like this together. Well the
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Lakers say, hey, all right, in a week, it's like, okay,
now we have our guys. Now we have our big
three going forward. And really it is something to be
able to do this. And now you can never tell
me again the rest of my life. Oh, we can't
make a trade. Can't make a trade, can't ma, it's
just impossible. We can't make the money. We're knada. There's
always ways to make a trade. When I hear a
GM say I can't do it, we could matter, that's
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a lazy GM who wasn't able to either a figure
out stuff involving other teams or b was afraid to
make a trade. Because you can always make a deal.
You can do it. But somehow the Bucks today were
able to get cut Well, Kuzma, trade away Chris Middleton,
who is older than Kuzma, injured and owed more money
than Kuzma. In the next two years they got the better.
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But it's not like, hey, here's Middleton and will give
you like eight first round picks. No, it was basically,
oh wow, it's Middleton here for Kyle Kuzma. They were
able to make that happen. Right, The Spurs were able
to get the Aaron Fox without having to trade Castle
or Vosslyn and any of their other young players and Johnson.
They were able to make this happen. So don't tell
me that we can't make a trade, because obviously you
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see teams get creative enough, they make deals like this happen.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I am in the age Old Adage, the Art of
the Deal. You look it up.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
You may find books written by your current president with
that title, as well as many others that have used
it through the years of all right, you have either
a distressed property or you got a guy that you
think is underutilized with the talent surrounding him. My jobs
to pitch you that he doesn't work for you, and
(09:59):
that you just need to get rid of him, because
it's not it's dragging you down, right, That's what I
gotta do as a GM or I just hold them.
See if I can hold my breath a little longer,
Like you're Jimmy Butler against big bad pat Riley.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
That's the most fun of the day.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
It'll never give up well, you know whatever for Williams,
for your guy Brandon Ingram, Right, all of these things,
it's just a matter of whether they hold up health wise. Right,
you get a little bit of the concerns and maybe
that's what makes them available for trade. With Williams, some
of the per and some of the advanced metrics. You're like,
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all right, how much of that is him? How much
of that is coming off injury? How much of that
is a surrounding cast. You go through and you say,
all right, with our squad, we can get the best
out of them. For you know, going back to that
trade to the Raptors. For Ingram, it's the all right
because his body hold up right, He's missed a lot
of games the last couple of years. But if it
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played out well, then then it's a pretty good bet.
And it gives you a little bit of a launching pad.
But all of that to say, yeah, it's creativity.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Right.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
We've talked a lot about the aprons and trying to
understand the new rules of the NBA, because once upon
a time it was really Jason, what was it?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
All?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Right?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
We gotta make the salaries match. Everybody, get out your calculator.
Is that within the acceptable threshold of percentages? Or do
they have to you know, include Keith van Horn's contract again,
or requisite requisite veteran. It's kind of like baseball now.
Every once in a while it's like, wait, that guy
hasn't played a couple of years. Yeah, but he was
(11:36):
still on the books. You know, we got to include
his contract here. But it's just just that, you know,
being aggressive, Like I Mark Stein joined us last hour
and catch the podcast. It'll go up next hour. Justin
and Alex will have that up the full conversation. But
I've always agreed with him. We've talked about it being
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aggressive and taking big swim. You have to be willing
to fail, right, you're trying to see the peace. It's
the beautiful mind kind of thing. Russell Crowe standing there
and you know you're seeing all the numbers they're not
really there. It's all this head right, but but it's
that kind of thing of all right, I can see
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how this puzzle is gonna fit and if it works right,
and sometimes it doesn't. Injuries, inconsistency, guys that just don't
get along, other a million things can happen. But you
get to a trade deadline, and if the math as
fuzzy as it is with the NBA, if you can
get it within reason, you know you're gonna get guys
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to take a swing. And as soon as the Luca
trade went down, like you you're calling me and we're
going back and forth, and it's like, you know, this
really kind of opens the door and what did you hear?
Speaker 4 (12:52):
Well, now front office is looking at the world through
a completely different lens of we're not stuck with the guy.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We're not, you know, beholden to any of these you
know contracts that that we've signed that these guys have
to ride them out here, and then we know what what,
you know, whatever comes we'll deal.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
With then say no, let's let's shuffle it up and
see if we can't go for broke.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Now I love it, and look, if this is the
beginning of a new era of NBA basketball. And for
all the ratings issues, I mean, I can't sell it
as a TV show watching insiders answer their phones, but
damn it, the results have been pretty good.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, you know. And and the thing is about this trade,
right because the Dalton connect angle of it is something
that's really interesting because this was this was somebody who
was supposed to be the next great Laker, right, the
guy Lebron wanted, the guy that was going to be
their future. And early on in the college guy, Yeah,
he had a couple of big games and suddenly, yeah,
he can go for Mark Williams. Somehow he he he
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fell out of favor, fell out of the rotation. It's
not like Brawny started to take his minutes would have
been something. But he almost became expendable in this right,
he almost became well, if we're gonna get but we
have enough shooters, now, we have enough offense. Now. He
really became expendable. You know. It's it's I think it
would have been a little bit more pause if he
was still a big member of the rotation. But he
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wasn't anymore. You know, it wasn't the beginning of the year.
And so now Okay. It's almost like in fantasy where
you say, oh, I'm this guy's on my bench. I
can trade him because I'm not playing him that much.
So I mean, if Connect was still playing, I think
it would have been a different thing. But hey, he's
not part of rotation. We still have been playing really well,
the best record we've had in the regular season in
the last four years, and now we can add uh
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and and complete our big three for the next decade.
Let's go do it. Man. This is to quote Mark
Stein with us, this is an absolute home run for
the Lakers.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I've said, Jason, you like him, you don't love him,
and you're looking at two windows.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Whatever Lebron's is left and the future thereafter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
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Stop not on Peter Alonzo Day, not on Peter Alonzo
coming back. They stop with that, stop with that. Well,
Peter Alonzo came back, the Met signed him. We thought
it was gonna happen, and now he's here and we're
winning the World Series. There you go there, But he
never really left. Well, he was kind of leaving. He's
(17:05):
sort of he's sort of left. It's kind of like
if you break up with somebody who says I just
need a little bit of time doesn't mean I want
to break up. It just means I need some me
time right now, and they're okay, and then you bite
your nails for a month or so and then hey, no,
I want to get back together. I took care of
my issues probably now let's get back to Oh okay, great,
So do we technically really break up? Ay? Maybe no
(17:28):
one knows what you did that month while we're up.
We're better in that month.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Might have been some crazy stuff going on and Alonzo
did nothing.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Jason, when I gave you this pen A Lonzo story
at the top of the show, yeah, it wasn't for
you to do multiple times.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Well, it's a big story, Frostburg, I mean different, It's
the biggest story in the world right now, maybe the world.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Whoa, whoa, come on now, well, sure it is biggest time.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
I'm looking at things like he's got blood on his hands.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Wow, I mean, that's why he keeps trying to sanitize
it by talking about how great this is.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
So we started the show with Pete Alonzo signing with
the Mets, and in the middle of the show we
got two big, big NBA stories Trade deadline coming up
just about fourteen hours from now, brandon Ingram goes to
the Raptors and the Lakers get Mark Williams from the
Hornets in a big trade that involved Dalton connect So
(18:24):
just today we have seen brandon Ingram all Star get
dealt all right, Williams is one of the best young
centers in the game. Kyle Kuzma goes to the Milwaukee
Bucks and Jimmy Butler gets dealt to the Golden State Warriors.
This on the heels of Luca and AD's trade over
the weekend, and there's a really big thing that Luca
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and Ad trade is going to usher in in the
NBA now. And it goes back to where we saw
Jokic and Steph kind of allude to it in the
last twenty four hours, where they were asked their opinions
and they said, no one is safe, no one is safe.
No one said, well, what do you mean, No one's safe?
And anybody can be traded. Okay, Well, in theory anybody
(19:07):
can be traded at any time. Only a couple of
players have no trade clauses, so all right, anybody can
get dealt at anytime, which I thought was kind of
weak by jokichen Steph because it's like, oh, you're not
gonna be mad if other players get traded to your team, right,
like Steph Curry, go, no, anybody traded in time. I
don't think Steph Curry's upset. They got Jimmy Butler and
Jimmy Butler is a guy that now I gotta move
(19:28):
my life again and move it across country and everything else.
You're okay that getting players? Just all if I get traded,
all I don't want that. That's not right. No, just stop.
But they did hit on something that you are going
to see now without fail Luca and Ad trade, the
next trend is going to see now superstar players. I
(19:50):
don't just mean star players, but superstar players are going
to get dealt much more regularly than they ever have
been before because you need to trade like this to
sort of break the ice on it. Because certain players,
even though you didn't think they were going to get traded,
they were always viewed as untouchable. Right there, there's a
good twenty players in the league. You would think, okay, yeah,
(20:12):
these guys are kind of untouchable. Man may maybe ten,
ten or fifteen players are are untouchable. But now, uh
that's out the window. Because the Mavericks, even though they're
getting a lot of criticism now because they traded Luca, hey,
let's not forget for all the criticism. They got back
an All NBA player, Right, They got back the best
player they were possibly going to get in getting a
(20:33):
d back. Okay, So so just understand that was a
good trade. They got back what they needed to get
back because they weren't gonna sign Luca long term and
he didn't want to be there. So yeah, they got
the best guy they could possibly get. They got a
star player. But I can see now in the next
few years, like I can look and say, if the
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Sixers continue to be bad, I can see Maxi and
Embiid both getting dealt. Right, Kevin Durant's probably gonna trade
it at some point. Again, if the Timberwolves never become
the great team they're supposed to become, I can see
Anthony Edwards get traded. I could see Devin Booker get dealt.
I can see Kate Cunningham get traded by the Pistons.
If suddenly the money is too much and the Pistons
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don't wind up getting to a point where they look
like they're gonna contend the biggest players in the game,
you're gonna start seeing them get traded because teams are
gonna go, hey, it's not that big a deal. And
if we're coming up to a point where, boy, this
guy is due a lot of money that we're not
sure we want to pay. And I don't mean just
suddenly guys are gonna get traded because a GM wakes
up one Danes. I'm gonna trade my star. But if
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their circumstances, like, hey, this guy's do a lot of money, man,
and I don't know if we want to give him
four hundred million dollars over the next however many years, Yeah,
we're gonna move him. We're gonna for whatever reason we're
gonna move him, whether we don't think he's gonna be
the same player, whether he's getting too old, whether he's
too injured. And suddenly these stars are gonna get moved
(21:56):
and superstars are gonna get moved. So that was kind
of if that's kind of what what Jokic and Steph
were getting at. Yeah, that's gonna be an eerror where
you can you can see trades like that made a lot,
and I mean it, in the next few years, all
those guys I mentioned, I can see them get dealt
if suddenly the money is too much or the team
is not contending, they're looking for a complete reboot and
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they need other things Like that's going to happen. You're
gonna see guys get traded. You would never think in
a million years could get delt. Look, we woke up, sat, well,
that's not happening. We woke up Saturday and it was hey, man,
I can't believe this. So Luca, Luca just got trade.
I mean, the fact that we saw a top three
player in the NBA get dealt tells you that just
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about anybody can get traded. The only guy I would
say right now, the two players I would say would
absolutely be untradeable are probably Wemby and Gilgess Alexander. I mean,
Jokic is getting to be thirty. You don't know what
his situation is gonna be like, you know how he's
going to age. I could see Yannis saying I'm done
in Milwaukee. I want out and I need to get
(22:59):
somewhere because I want to go win a title. Like
I could see. I could see it happening. I could
see these guys something going on where Hey, okay, you
wouldn't think these guys ever be out there, but here
they are. They're out there to get traded.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, and especially.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Because Yanna said Joki wants the Jokic on the Knicks.
So now that that's out there, we can make that happen.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well, just kind of threw what he wanted.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
He's started just throwing euros into the bigger US cities.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But that's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
But I think the larger things that come out of it. Right,
we talk about Bradley Beal and what a pain in
the ass that's been for the Suns, which is how
a lot of the Kevin Durant rumors started to spin out,
Like you follow it of all right, we need to
shake something up, and this guy's not even like open
to listening, so we're kind of stuck. We got to
pivot over here, right and look at and see what
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the market is. And KD obviously doesn't want to go.
But look, there's still fourteen hours. Anything can happen for Jokic,
for Steph. You know, it's the lamentation of a change
of doing business. I would be curious if, you know,
you start getting into negotiations where you don't necessarily go
back to the NBA. You know, the players going to
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the two in one or three and two, you know,
option option shorter contracts, but if they don't give back
something so that they do get some limited no trade
protections in there. But a lot of it is again
turnover in in management in gms. It's not quite as
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bad as the NFL, where we seemingly shuffle coaches and
gms at about a what eighteen month clip for about
half the teams in the league anymore, shuffle up and deal, Hey,
what's your direction?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm gonna get fired by the end of the year,
so I'm not really giving. So you got a little
of that that goes on. But I think it's good
for the game that you do get this little good
and evil kind of battle back and forth about roster
shuffling players for the last decade or so of deciding, hey,
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operation shutdown and look that's still winning, all right, Jimmy
Butler got his way, got his extension, et cetera. But
maybe you know, we we meet in the middle somewhere
where you know, gms, when they see an obvious fix
in the marketplace, can feel empowered to go get it,
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knowing that there's going to be backlash. And I think
that's the other part, right, is you know, job security
and getting the backing of your ownership group to go
be bold. And how many how many teams truly have that?
Speaker 4 (25:41):
How many? How many guys truly have that? All right? Yeah,
you think this is gonna do it? All right?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
We take a short term hit. I mean, look what
Dallas did right. Not to belabor the point, but the
refund idea. I get at your hospitality. People make people happy,
shake hands, kiss babies, whatever. But if legitimately all people
are getting back is two grand, like you know, you've
got bigger fish to fry in the marketplace. But it's
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just the the idea that, okay, we have to do that,
and that's that's the public response of us trying to
win long term because you like the Luca jersey you.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Bought that much. You know.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
It's those kind of things, you know, trying to figure out.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Well someone wear seventy seven again? Just will anybody wear
seventy seven again? Can I wear this? We'll give you.
We'll give you a new name patch.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
We promise.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Oh that exit out about a Fresca exit swallen down
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Carbon Live from the
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We will tell you that's gonna be coming up in
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All the breakdown we've had tonight of all the big
moves in the NBA, NFL stuff will be there in
about a half hour from now. Time now to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports from
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someone who's been called the Nakola Jokic of Fox Sports
Radio all the tools, but says no one is safe.
That's right.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I like that.
Speaker 6 (27:28):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's right. Uh luka.
Speaker 6 (27:30):
Doncic is expected to make his Lakers debut this Saturday
against the Pacers, so that game is now going to
air on ESPN Tip Office at four Eastern. But I
gotta tell you, Jason what what game got got?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
But did the did the Clippers get pushed off?
Speaker 2 (27:44):
No, it was not the Clippers.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I was about to give you a compliment.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Non okay, No, I'm gonna tell you what, Tony, when
the when the Luca trade happened, I was laughing at
it was the best Twitter I've ever seen. Like people
were just hilarious, but your tweet had me rolling. I
even sent it to my brothers when you were like,
I'm calling everyone like I just had a kid and
I died died laughing because it was just so accurate
(28:13):
as to what was happening.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
And I literally I sent it to my brothers.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
I was like, this is one of my coworkers and
I could not stop laughing.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
So thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
Oh okay, yeah, no, it's so good.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
It brought out the best in Twitter that and I
really did, like it was so good.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
It was so good.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
But Jimmy Butler's you guys are gonna talk about how
good is this trade? He is headed to the Warriors
on a multi team trade. Andrew Wiggins, PJ Tucker, Kyle
Anderson are headed to the Heat. Dennis Shredter is headed
to the Jazz. Butler is declining his twenty twenty five
twenty six player option to agree to a new two
year deal with the Warriors. The Lakers are trading Dalton
connect Cam Reddish, a twenty thirty one unprotected first round
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pick and a twenty thirty pickswap to the Hornets for
center Mark Williams. The Pelicans have trade Brandon Ingram to
the Raptors. The Knicks are training senator Jericho sim but
it's part of that Bucks trade with the Wizards where
Kyle Kuzma and Chris Middleton were swapped. Lonzo Ball and
the Bulls have agreed to a two year, twenty million
dollar contract extension. Scores in the NBA on Wednesday night,
(29:12):
Shay gil Jes Alexander dropped another fifty points as the
thunder crushed the Suns one forty to one oh nine.
Darius Garland hit the game winning logo three as the
Cavs beat the Pistons one eighteen to one fifteen. Darren Fox,
in his Spurs debut, had twenty four points and thirteen assists.
In San Antonio edged Atlanta one twenty six to one
twenty five. Anthony Edwards had forty nine points and nine
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rebounds as the Timberwolves outscored the Bulls one twenty seven
to one oh eight. Nikola Jokic had thirty eight points.
Michael Porter Junior had thirty nine points, and the Nuggets
took down the Pelicans one forty four to one nineteen.
The Grizzlies beat the Raptors, the Heat took down the
seventy six ers, the Wizards beat the Nets, the Magic
took down the Kings in Sacramento won thirty to one eleven,
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and the Jazz had a one thirty one to one
twenty eight win over the Warriors. In men's college hoops,
Number two do Cus win's sixteen in a row after
defeating Syracuse eighty three to fifty four, while Rutgers upset
Number twenty three Illinois eighty two to seventy three. And
in baseball, Pete Alonso and the Mets are in agreement
on a two year deal worth fifty four million. The
deal includes a ten million dollars signing bonus, and it
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includes an opt out after the first season. What to night, guys,
Let's do it again tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Thanks a bunch of Monzi. We'll do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, Dow Great things.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Jason Smith Show with Mike Carmon Live from the tairaq
dot Com Studios. Now, she mentioned Jimmy Butler, who got
his long awaited deal today sent to the Warriors, proving
that if you hold your breath, then stand in the
corner long enough and stamp your feet, you're going to
get what you want. Now, the thing is look, and
it's really this is a great day because I could
say the teams that were aggressive, I loved all the
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moves they made. I even like for all the criticism
I give the Warriors and how they should have traded
step away rather than but I get it. I like
this move because it's the first of what I expect
to be big moves over the course of the next
few months. Because they get Jimmy Butler, and is Butler
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going to be someone who's a difference maker for them
this year?
Speaker 5 (31:13):
No?
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Right, they traded away. They traded away Wiggins. Right, they
traded away. They gave away a couple of plays. You know,
Shrewder is now on the move. He's going to the
Jazz as part of this deal. But they gave away
a few players. This is not the case where Jimmy
Butler suddenly gets the Warriors over the top. But this
is a move that's made for the two years after this,
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because not only did they get Jimmy Butler, but they
gave him that huge hundred and twenty million dollars two
year extension for the next two years after this, because
the real window for the Warriors, they know, is over
the next two seasons, right, whatever they do else between
now and the deadline, what they do in free agency
in the offseason, this is this is why it's just
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an incomplete move. Getting Jimmy Butler is a nice first move,
but they gotta do more. And the reason why I
like it is because as much as it looked like
Jimmy Butler was washed, how many guys have we seen
looked washed because they just don't care anymore about the
team they're playing for, And then suddenly they get a
trade and they look like it's five years ago. Like,
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how much does Jimmy Butler was? He done with the
heat and suddenly he was sort of on a decline
over the course of the last year, getting suspended three times.
I'm willing to say I've seen this movie enough, Mike,
whether it was James Harden or anybody else where. Hey,
they look like they're done and look like they're just
gonna fade into oblivion. But now suddenly they get a
trade and they look like they did five years ago.
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And wow, Jimmy Butler looks like he scored thirty five.
Butler had thirty eight tonight. He looks like he's that
guy again. So I've seen it enough to know that
Jimmy Butler is one of those guys. We've seen it
throughout his career.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Right, We've seen it a lot with him.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
He finds his way, he finds his way out of
as old of a situation where he can't be anymore,
and then things are great in his new location for
a while. So those two reasons I like why the
Warriors did what they did today.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Bullish for it, right, and if they can creep into
the back end and into the play play in uh tournament,
we we might get some fireworks, right.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
You know, whether it's be him and Draymond getting after
it on the court, but you suddenly get a guy
who will hold the young guys to task, sometimes maybe
a bit too aggressively and abrupt uh in his in
his and Kurt like he's the wolf in his assessments.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
But I like the boldness.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Obviously he gets what he wants. So it's it's kind
of funny because everybody just said, you know, pat Riley's
gonna win forever. But for the Warriors, it extends a
window that looked like it was closing. There are a
couple of fake insider accounts that are talking about Steph
demanding a trade, so.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Don't fall for those. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Uh And Steve Kerr did his requisite complaining about the
timing of the trade deadline, so uh, we at least
got him back to being a whiner.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
So that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know, it's amazing you talking about Everybody always loves
bold moves, right, I love that bold move, except when
it comes to the Netvericks trading. Luca, I don't like it,
but that was bold. It was the boldest of all
the bold moves. Yeah, no, but I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (34:15):
Well again, I mean we we've diminished Anthony Davis. Remember
he's he's a bum, no show though the Mavericks got
nothing in the deal, nothing discernible. I may have heard
that take a few times over the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
And that after all the trades the Lakers made, Guys,
Lebron might play for decades.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
You might be playing when he's fifty.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
A lot of people are really salty that Dalton connect
is no more a Laker.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
It'll be okay, exit out about a Fresca exit swalling down.
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon
Coming up next, our final thoughts on the biggest trade
of the day and something we have to get into
that happened today in the NBA. A big move made
and it just makes you scratch your head. That's next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
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Speaker 1 (35:18):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with My best
Friend Mike Harmon Livethetireck dot Com Studios. Now you've avoided
this for the last couple hours, Harmon, but we we
got to get into this here. You know, NBA trade
deadline coming up about thirteen or so hours from now.
Speaker 4 (35:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
You know every year your bulls don't trade anybody, They
don't trade for anybody. They're just content with sucking with
talented guys on the team they have. They said no, no, no,
like something's going to change. You've had this big three
that you've had for the left that they all they think, right,
your team is terrible. You don't trade anybody, you don't
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trade anybody away. Yet today you decide, Oh, Lonzo Ball,
who has barely come back to the league for the
first time in years, let's sign him for two more years.
I mean, what what are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I mean one of them, it's two for twenty. I
mean the second year is a player option. By the way,
your nick didn't do anything, so shut up.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We still left time. We still left time to go time.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Yeah, we've trade away, traded away every player that we
possibly can, so I don't know, I think he's still
left some guys you could trade away, all right, Well,
I mean you gotta build with something. I mean, you know,
you look at a beatdown at the hand of the
the t Wolves. I mean, buzalis Is, it looks like
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he could be a player. Vucevic could still be on
the outs. He's gonna get delt tomorrow, Okay, ten and
eleven night, And they still love Kobe White.
Speaker 4 (36:51):
I guess, Josh. I mean, there's a couple of guys.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
I feel like this has been the same team since
twenty twelve.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
No, it's very very similar.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Yeah, No, no, No, it's just a cycling through. Occasionally you
get a splash like hey, DeRozan's a bull.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
And not for long.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
They can only sign players on Scottie Pippins's pit money
not much to go around.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
No, that is absolutely true.
Speaker 3 (37:15):
That boy passing the collection play, you're gonna you're gonna
come up short. But yeah, you say sent Levine out.
But yeah, Lonzo ball. It's a feel good story. Yeah,
I don't know do the history of the draft. I mean,
you got a couple of guys that are that are interesting,
but are they any good?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Right?
Speaker 3 (37:32):
They're twenty two and thirty after the loss tonight Jalen Smith, Right,
he was with Phoenix. Look like he's on the cup
fourteen off the bench tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
That's great. Yeah, you lost by by nineteen.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yay, So now as we get sens for the rest
of the trade deadline?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Right, yeah, Hey, I'll always have the nineties.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
By the way, you'll never have true you will have
the night. Yet you'll never have a decade like I
lived that year. That No, you you you'll never have
a decade like you had had that year. That's right,
I mean it felt like a year. I mean because
it was just so exciting from pillar to post, like
you sure.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Look, we've talked about the Lakers and this Mark Williams move,
and they've got their big three for the next decade
now with Luca and Reeves. And I'll double down on
what I said last night that this really reminds me
when they got pau Gasol and they just took off
running right away, and I expect them to take off
running white right away. You know you telling you man,
(38:29):
I'm just I'm just getting this, getting that. I'm just
getting nice. We said it last night, man, We're just
getting that. But the deal that I really want to
see right that I of more than anything tomorrow right now,
Kevin Durant, it probably is not going anywhere, right. We
had Mark Stein joining us saying after what happened today,
Kevin Durant's probably not going anywhere. He told the Warriors
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he was not interested in the reunion. So there he's
sitting in Phoenix. The deal where I would love to
see k D go right is and and it's it's
a tough fit because hey, any team that it's that
close to winning a championship, you might have to give
up a little bit too. Much for Kevin Durant. He's
a guy that's going to come in and just score, right.
He's still a great scorer. Thirty five years only thirty five,
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thirty six, he still does that at an elite level.
I would love to see him go to the Pistons.
I really would, man, This is a great story in
the NBA. The Pistons are suddenly okay after years of
being just absolutely terrible. Suddenly he goes there. He's the
old head on the team. He can slide right. When
you're a scorer, you can slider and assimilate really well.
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All the young guys on the team, Kate Cunningham has
become a star. Nobody would want to play them in
the playoffs. Eight on Kadi can send you home in
a series. It would be great for the NBA, It
would be great for him. Be great to see the
Pistons really gain that, and let's face it, Detroit needs
it after the Lions just really kind of, you know,
fell on their face. Kay heat to the Pistons. That's
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a trade I want to see the most.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
They're still cleaning up your mess. H. No, I agree
with you, though. I think this should be a lot
of fun. Because then we immediately start getting old footage.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Of the bad Boys, Oh.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Beer and that other title team, but nobody talks about
those guys. Ben Wallace and those guys don't exist. But
it's kind of like the two thousand and five White Sox.
It's like, yeah, it's the World Series that never happened.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Angels.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Yeah, I know, they really don't they.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Really they don't. Yeah, commemorate that one quite so much.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
Next stop stop, come on stop.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
But yeah, kadda Detroit. Pair him with Kid Cunningham. You
talk about scoring for days, let's go.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah, give me some of that, man. Uh if look
if we had an incredible last couple of days, an
incredible night. I can't wait to see what the next
thirteen hours brings. I can't wait to wake up tomorrow
and see maybe the Mets make another big trade. I
don't know, but I can't wait to wake up and
see what we get tomorrow. The NBA trade deadline will
have Rick Buker on the show. Another big show tomorrow
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