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Merry Christmas wherever you're however you're listening, Thanks for being
with us and being part of our extended family. The
greeting cards are in the mail, maybe some half melted
chocolates or something along the way. I'm Mike garving alongside me,
(00:45):
Arnie Spanner. No, Jason Smith back after the new year,
little relaxation.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Where did he go this time? An application? You don't know,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
He did text me this morning. We went back and forth,
Nick Show.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I'll ask him like, where are you? Where are you
going on vacation? No? Wow, you guys are close.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Well no, because that gives us something to talk about
when we get back on air. Hey, what'd you do?
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Oh cool?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Let's talk about it.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, cool, I don't know if that's the word.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Plans change and in life, life goes on and it's
like whatever. It's like we worked together a lot, we
laugh about a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Where is your next big vacation? I know last time
I spoke to you, you were like going to see
Taylor Swift with your daughter.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, that was last year already in Dublin. Yeah it
been that long. Yeah, No, that was last summer already.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The air was the cause to a gazillion dollars.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It was not cheap, but between Ireland and England. I'll
tell you what. All the clips from Ireland that I've
had in my timeline the last couple of days that
I was like I could do this, and I was
telling the girls maybe maybe we figure out a way
to Ireland for a couple of days during the holidays
next year, you know, in between all their schooling and
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things like that.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Tickets more expensive in Ireland to see Taylor Swift more expensive.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well here's well, here's the problem is that there's no
scalping in Ireland, so you no, no, it's it's bad
because there's no availability. So you either figure out an
in Unfortunately, through my brother, he did the the work
with his company and was able to find someone to
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help him out. Uh, and they took care of us
and we ended up having a wonderful time, met some
great people.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
How did you sell your car to get tickets?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, not quite, not quite. Some other considerations, but when
when you get down to it, it's it was just
the curiosity of there are places where people list tickets.
But it became a all right, I have to meet you,
You've got to do this, which it's a whole other thing.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Would you ever do that for yourself, like pay that
type of money for a band that you wanted to see?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Sure, I have the Stones, I've done the Stones. I'm
a little disappointed. It turns out they were going to
do a European tour, but Keith isn't up for tour.
Ring right now. Just celebrate another birthday by the way.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Oh nice. I think my biggest concert I went to
was it was a triple header Madness, the Police and
the Thompson Twin look at you. Yeah, that goes a way.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Let's go back to eighty three ish.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
That goes way back that the nineteen eighties. Yeah, there's
no doubt that was their thing.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, so it's they hold me now, yeah, no question
about see now we get singing, Arnie span You're in
the fourth hour of the program, four point eight remaining
Denver up one thirteen, one twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Can I back up for a second?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Can I I want to hit the backup? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:42):
No, I wanted to talk about a subject that we
already brought up, but we missed one part of it.
And I know you're not going to bring up the
Kansas City Chiefs again.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Kansas City Chiefs are going to be somewhat part of
this discussion, not all kickball perspective. But I was just talking.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
About the all the people talking about the new stadium
and how it's the gusting and.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
How so that's where I was going, Oh.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, I'm sorry. Well it set it up, then, baby,
set it up, because I have definitely thoughts on that,
no doubt.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
All right, So there there there is our Arnie Spain
here and another.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I thought we missed it when we talked about.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Just shaking his head going what the hell?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I forgot to shake his head like.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The way right now, Shay's come on, what Uncle Arney
just she just took over. This is where John Barenthal,
one of my favorite memes going around from the Fishes
episode of What of the Bear where he starts throwing
forks at Bob Odenkirk get the dinner table. That's exactly
what I would be doing if we were sitting across
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from each other.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Okay, well that's probably what you would be doing. I
have no idea.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Say what do you what do you think of what
Uncle Arney did to me just here?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
This was this was an Uncle Arne move? What What
did I do?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
You mean?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That's what I I did was moving alog a little
bit for crist out loud. I'm like, I want to
bring up this.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
You're the one that takes me off on the exit ramp.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah, I do that sometimes to go.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Find something you found in your mapping system that doesn't exist.
I heard there was a great place to get some
liquorico over here. Yeah no, no, let's go back to this.
We're talking about traditions. We're talking about the NFL and
the changing face and Chase part of this discussion as well,
because we've got the Kansas City New Stadium, We've got
the Bears flirting with Indiana and saying, hey, we're willing
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to move right again. We talked about Soldier Field earlier
in the show, how they don't get any revenue when
there's a Taylor Swift series of shows and whatever else
because it's a park district owned. So you have the
circumstance whereby the Chiefs, the Bears, the Browns are all
looking to move and get better deals, tax exemptions and monies.
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For the Chiefs. That came out that a lot of
the revenue would be off a liquor tax. We're still
talking twenty thirty one could change, but in the interim
there's there's a lot of hand ringing and madness. Right.
We saw Mitchell Schwartz Uh. He came out uh and
and he had uh some some thoughts on it as
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well from his perspective as a player, because part of
the discussion is that they would lose a lot of
seating in this process. Not a whole heck of a lot,
but it's a couple of thousand seats, so it starts
to add up over an eight games schedule.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Why are we concerned about that? We're not the owners.
We don't concern about the money that's going to go
in his pocket.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
But that's the thing, right, and this is where we
start straddling the line. Look in the way of progress
business to keep your team moving forward. And for the
stewart we always talk about good stewards. Everybody complains in baseball,
nobody spending money to compete with the Dodgers. It's unfair.
They built an organization, organization and a structure that everybody
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would to have, but you need the initial capital. Here's
what Mitchell Schwartz had to say, Clark Hunt and what
will happen with the change in stadium. Quote, they can
do what they want, but acting like it's in the
best interest in the fans and then taking thousands of
seats away from them and making more of the remaining
into switets and high end seating is the last thing
the fan base wants or needs. Well, that's the question why.
(07:23):
It makes a good point there, but to a point,
to a point. But again, it's it's their toy, Mike.
If they want to wrap it or paint it, or
rip an arm off like we used to when you'd
lose a lightsaber fight, that's the way it goes.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Mike. You went to Northwestern. I'm surprised you've not brought
this up already. Forget about football, for just a second.
If you were a mayor, a senator, a congressman, whatever
you are, and you're a politician, and I said, why
should I vote for you? The first thing you're get
to say is, well, I want to make the economy better.
I want to create more jobs, you know, I want
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to do something like that. Isn't that what this is
doing is creating more jobs, you know, bringing an economy
to your area, bringing you know, restaurants and hotels, and
people are gonna come there and spend there, and you're
gonna have construction work and people will have money and
and go to where. It is not what you want
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to begin with if you're just you know, fans living
there before even talk about what the chiefs owner is
gonna get out of this thing.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Well, but that's the thing, right if you're a politician, Yeah,
it's not about the chiefs. No, you're selling economic progress,
which is good.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
So why why wouldn't the people want the same thing.
Why wouldn't the people that live there go, yeah, we'll
build a new stadium. Now, maybe the owner is getting
a little too much compensation. I could certainly understand that
they're saying that the money that he's putting in gets
to go to uh you know, uh improvements later on
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and stuff like that. But but besides that, though there's
he owns the team. You know he could move the team.
You want them to stay. You want him to bring
that economic lift to your area. So I'm always surprised
when people are like, no, no, we're giving it too much.
We're giving it too much. Yeah, you don't want to
raise taxes and you don't want to use tax paying dollars,
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but you do have to use tax paying dollars to
go ahead and keep the economy moving and to bring
in new businesses. And you know when you bring in
like a Google or an app or do they you
don't think they get special discounts and taxes and all
the tax excepted and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Take Arnie to what we were dealing with here in
the greater area of Los Angeles and up and down
the coast. Yeah, they're losing tons of what was a
burgeoning movie business right yes to Canada.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I had a lot of productions moved to Canada. A
lot of productions moved to Georgia. Uh and anywhere where
the land is cheap.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
If you used to be Arizona and something out. Yeah,
Old West, a lot of Westerns.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
But that's just it. You got a lot of states
that say, hey, you can come shoot here. Right, Chicago
as a city and you back backdrop for Batman and such.
New York certainly shows up a lot. Uh, and yeah,
you can do that on the back lots here. But
when you're talking about getting huge tax incentives to come
and do your production somewhere else, it's hard to look
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away from, right. And that's and that's a lot of
the union fight right now in Los Angeles when we
start talking about you know, the different guilds because they're
losing a lot of work, a lot of hours, right
that are that go that are going into other states.
And when we talk about an economy that runs on
a lot of the movie magic and that upkeep, that
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becomes a problem, you know.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And I'm surprised Mitchell Schwartz talks about how well they're
gonna have less seats, so that's taken away from the
real fans, and they're gonna have more you know, upper
echelon type seats and uh, you know, more expensive seating
and stuff like that. Well, it's going to be a
dome though, is it not? Is it not gonna be
more comfortable? Is it's not gonna have more men these
for the fans?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
But the point that he's making is what would be
the equivalent of the three hundred levels? Right? Those fans.
A lot of those folks are losing their seats. So
I understand that to a point. Right, if you're a
lifetime and certainly anybody that's ever been in for any
portion or a full season ticket package, there come times
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where it's like, all right, we need to move you,
we need to change you. You brought up Northwestern. They're moving
into a new facility.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I was about to say, you do you not want
that new facility, Mike? Do you prefer to be in
an older city where you can't recruit is as good
as the other schools because your facility is not as nice.
So your stadium is not as nice as the other schools.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, And that's the point. It doesn't need to have
maximum capacity, right, some huge, monolithic kind of structure, right,
but you've got to be updated. And as much as
I love Dyke Stadium and going to the bowels of
that place, it's old, it's antiquated, and it's not I mean, one,
it's still not gonna be on campus regardless, but you're
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looking at a facility that was outdated. The weight room
was outdated.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
That's why I said that about UCLA. I think they
I know, people say it's impossible because it's the whole
Beverly Hills thing, but they have to figure out how
to get a stadium on campus otherwise it's not going
to be as as good as the other schools they
you know, where Drake Stadium is up there in UCLA,
where the track is. They got to figure it out
otherwise they're going to be in trouble. It's too far
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to go to Pasadena.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah, I mean, and some of it is trying to
decide where you are in the packing order and where
you stand. For a Northwestern you're hoping that every now
and again things ring together to where you can go
on a run. And they had a fantastic season overall.
And the way this plant played out under the current
coach and administration and everything, Pat Fitzgerald re enters the
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fray over it.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
I love that guy. I think Michigan State did a
great higher the well.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
And they also got the best benefit of someone dropped
three hundred million dollars on the athletic department, Yes, four
hundred overall. Right, But when we talk about Ron and
what they've done with the Northwestern squad, you're hoping for
the against the hope of all hopes, that one the
schedule is in your favor, i e. You're not staring
at Michigan, Ohio State Oregon in the same season, right,
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because generally we can say with your going one and
two at best most years, almost all years, right right,
I mean I always thought Northwestern Stanford and teams like that,
Notre Dame, even to a lesser degree, not that I
lived in.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Chicago when they made that run. How many years ago
was it when they won the uh.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
When you're going back to the Rose Bowl year? Yeah, yeah,
that was the year after my I graduated.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Geez am, I that old damn Yeah, I was living
in Chicago back then.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
There you go, so all the way back in the
way back machine for Arnie. But the point being schools
like that, you know, it's the perfect storm or in
this case, as the rules really became a kangaroo court
of what the hell's legal? What isn't that you would
take advantage of it and activate your alumni base, many
of whom have large pocketbooks.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yes they do, right, because we've.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Seen coaches in the middle of introductory press conference saying,
we just need one guy to right a twenty million
dollar check, right, I mean we saw that last week.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Are Mike Carmen to cut a check?
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Right? Uh?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Huh sure?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
But just that idea of you have an opportunity to
go change the game and put it in your favor
for a little bit, right the George Clooney speech from
Ocean's eleven. At one time, when you have the opportunity
to take the house, you had them big kind of thing, right,
I'm obviously paraphrasing, but you know, and then he forced
the speech according to Brad Pitt, But it's just that
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because you're recognizing that most years you're playing for the
middle and hoping the ball bounces your way one or
two more times to get you over UCLA probably in
that same boat. So it becomes a question of investment.
And certainly, look the Northwestern so far, so you know,
which is great, Let's add another team.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It's so fi well, but you could do what you
can do it then, you know, I mean, it might
not be ideal, but it's.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Such short term, long term whatever you need to do.
I mean, you decide, you know where the valuation is
on it. You got a new coach coming in in Chesney.
You just made a big run and maybe you can
jump start things and get folks from being ham handed
as they've been. But just that point of trying to
take the shot. I mean with Northwestern, the stadium that's
being built is the house Fitzgerald built right where.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
They get all the money. Was that all alumni built.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
For Tea and Pat Ryan and folks that have been
around the organization and the school forever. So pockets, very
deep pockets, very deep pockets, and that's kind of where
we're at in the collegiate world. But for the professional mean,
you're trying to figure out how do you get that
organizational next step forward? Right the Bears, it's always been about,
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oh it's just a family business. Well, now you're getting
more more buy in, you know, new people coming in
to the stuff. You know, talk about the White Sox
and Reinesdorf selling stuff off to eh Ball where suddenly
all of a sudden there's going to be more money
and the ability to build the infrastructure, the scouting, the
training and all of those things to be competitive to
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your what are you about choices?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Though, as the people in Saint Louis if they would
want the Rams or they'd rather lose the Rams instead
of building a new stadium, you know what I mean,
as the people do in San Diego, how they felt
when they lost the Chargers because of the stadium issue
out there. I mean, obviously they're not happy about that.
They'd rather have a new stadium and you know, keep
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the team, then lose the team and not have a stadium.
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, and that's the question, right, you're trying to be
good fiscally financially and where the votes are. I mean
in San Diego they voted repeatedly and it never won.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
No, it never won.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Now it's a question of how you phrase it, what
you settle on, and how you put all that together.
But in the end, it wasn't the most pressing consideration
in terms of how they wanted to use public money.
And that's the other part, right, how much of a
fixture to your city in its identity is your football team?
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Well, the Rams owner used a lot of his own money, right, Well.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
But that's the thing, right, and build it so far.
I mean that that was privately done so.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But he got the people out of the profit.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh no, there's no question. There's a bunch of tax
incentives and whatever for doing so. But it's so when
Taylor sells out a week at SOFI or Sabrina Carpenter
or Olivia Rodrigo or any of these people, he's making
money hand over fist and the Chargers continue to pay
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Speaker 3 (20:14):
I love it late games. You always love when there's
live games on when you're on there.
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Oh absolutely, Whenever we can get some extra action into
the fourth hour, it's some next level stuff. You call
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background fodder, find a little bit to laugh at to
get enraged and engaged about at Swollen Dome at stinking
Genius one. How about this and that player that was
drafted in twenty twenty three to the NBA Draft twenty
twenty three is now eligible to go back to school
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to where he has four years of eligibility and he's
gonna go and become a member of the Baylor Bears.
How about this. So he's drafted, he gets traded, he
gets picked, he gets traded, he gets traded again, Pistons
to Hornets to the Knicks, never signed an NBA contract.
He's played basketball overseas.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, he played overseas.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
But now he's able to at the age of twenty one,
the right old age of twenty one, he's able to decide,
you know what, I'm gonna go to college the nil world.
And we've talked about this a lot as related to
quarterbacks and other skill positions in football of the changing face.
But I gotta imagine in basketball it'll be even more pronounced,
right because if you don't get one of those coveted
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first round draft projections and slots, you don't have a
guaranteed contract, right, which means you probably don't have any
guaranteed playing time, and you may toil for a couple
of years before you cycle out, maybe never getting an
opportunity to really breakthrough on a squad. Right, we talk
about the quarterbacks that are drafted in the first round
and then have the opportunity maybe to get a second bite,
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third byte, fourth But hey, I finally find that offensive
genius that makes me look good. Tada here I am.
But for this situation, for the for James Nausey, it
is now a very curious circumstance, and the door is
open to guys like, well, if you didn't sign a
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deal and never really got offered a contract, right you
got in and brought in for a workout, you got
drafted all of that stuff because normally you signed with
an agent right away and that's done. Well, even that
seems like an arcane piece of NCAA legislation of yesteryear.
I think the doors are wide open, right, come on.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
In look twenty one. I'm okay with. But the fact
that he was already drafted, that he did play overseas.
Forget about whether he said and he did play it
in the sub league, forget about if you signed the
contract or anything. This is not what college basketball is
made out to be. And there's a trickle down effect
to this, Mike. I mean, you get more of these
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twenty four, twenty five, twenty six year olds, or these
kids that are staying around for a fifth and six
year because of the nil Well, you know, that means
very little freshmen are going to get playing time, which
mean high school seniors don't get recruited as much as
they used to back in the day. And it's a
trickle down effect and it really is killing the high
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school kids and a lot of them are gonna have
to end to play in D three. Not that there's
anything wrong with that, but I just think this is
too too much. Once you sign a contract, once you're drafted,
you play in the summer league, you play overseas. I
think that's enough.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
You shouldn't be able to go back to college and
do it just because you want nil money. You're not
doing it for a degree or anything. So I think
it's too much, and we've gone a little too far,
are you. But but again, it's going to be happening
more and more, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Well, but that's the thing, right, whenever we start getting
that pesky thing called education back in and the old
student athletes. Well, but it's it's the dirty little word
at this point, right, it's no longer uh you know,
you say go back and get nil. Well, at this
point your professional basketball players on some level, whether we
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still call it, under the auspices of college basketball and
with education still being in the background. Now, that doesn't
mean that a lot of these guys and women that
are playing don't go on and work through their education,
get their degrees, get some substantive.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
If they were worried about it, they would have stayed
in school if they were worried about.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, no, no, but here's the thing, aren't You can
always go back. I can go get a degree starting
tonight in my underwear from home. I don't have to
step foot in the classroom, so I never have to walk. No,
but but that's the point. But that, but that's the
point of where we're at in this process. You can
always go back. Right. A lot of love guys have
gone act because they promised their moms or whatever, but
they go and do their pro career first. In this case,
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it became a I don't want to live overseas.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I want money is what I want.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well, when I found a loophole. I can go back
to college and maybe I get a little bit of training,
maybe I take a couple of classes. But again, that
doesn't seem to be as nearly the sticking point that
it once was in terms of maintaining eligibility. Now can
he get redrafted? That's where does do his right stay
with the Knicks? Uh? And when he decides to come
back or when when it gets to that point again.
(25:31):
But short term, when we're talking about you know, the
trend the last couple of years. It happened during COVID
or suddenly he had extra years of evailability, right, it took.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
It really took hurt the high school kids.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
So yeah, so it changed for a lot of schools.
It became about, all right, we need veterans. And we'd
always talked about it in the terms of guard play
for sure, right, you always wanted at least one of your.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
Team transfer portal is a big thing now.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Well and now that's the next level, right between that
and sticking around because you're gonna make more money at
of Kentucky a duke you know, insert school here, Arizona,
and then you will as a end of the bench
guy for we take the Timberwolves, take the Charlotte Hornets,
take some of these other teams. Right, just go on
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down the NBA guys that don't get off the bench. Wait,
I can go make a couple million dollars playing college
ball and be around college people, et cetera. I mean,
it's a no brainer for a lot of these guys.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, is it all about the money? Is that what
we're talking about here? Is it a long term solution?
I mean, yeah, you're gonna go for the money grab
for the next year, maybe two. But you know, the NBA,
you know, you want to be able to not make
sure you didn't leave a good situation, a good team,
something that you were gonna grow with just because you
were getting a million dollars less. That's the short term
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thinking there. Mind.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
Well, but it's also the you also have to recognize
who and what you are. And we all have this
problem no matter what you do, relationship wise, family wise,
his job wise. You know, recognizing you know, what you
think of yourself may not be with the room things,
what the industry thinks, what the person sitting across the dinner.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
See, not everybody thinks something. The best talk show host,
what are you talking about mine?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Eight seven at stick a genius one at Fox Sports,
Radiote swallowed Dome. But just the idea that you recognize
where you're at the in the pantheon of things. Right,
you're going to be a second round pick. Well, you
hide in school and by high to just say you
stay in school another year, take your il and move
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you actually get to school too.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah. How much of a difference do you think he'll
make well?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
And that that remains to be seen, but clearly it
was a guy good enough to get drafted and the
Knicks decided they at least wanted his rights. Yeah, and
this is where it goes back from many a year
where you had scouts and people in personnel being sent
overseas to scout guys that never came to the States. Right,
how many draft picks were there for the Spurs the Bowl.
(28:00):
I'll just take those two teams of guys who were
drafted there you got their rookie card and then did
that guy ever come to the States. Nope? They had
his rights though. That's great, and it because it's a
first round pick, or maybe it was an early second
round pick or whatever, but now it's it becomes the
if I can stay in school and make that money.
I mean, look at the quarterback, the transfer portal guys
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that would have been, and you're like, wait, i can
make three million dollars and I'm probably a fifth round
pick if I go to the not everybody, no, no, no,
but just just to put it out as something like,
look at what Underwood just made. He may he may
ever be well, he may ever be an NFL player,
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but well he got paid.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Coming in, coming in as a freshman, he was considered
a first rounder, and he may still get there.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Right, It's all short sighted. Right, It's like we were
talking about before in terms of gestation period, allowing a
guy to draw.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
You're giving all this money away. Arch Manning had to
give back some of his money.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, he decided to give back the money. He didn't
have to give back a dime.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Well he did, though.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
No, but he's also trying to look like the good guy.
Here's a lot of poison pens on him for the
course of the year. Where what do you do you
try to buy back some of that public public fund.
I mean, look at Tom Brady. The perception for a
lot of years it was like the guy was walking
in and you know, needing people to give him a sandwich.
He was still making good money. He still made a
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lot of money in his career, and for a long
time he was married to a woman who, for walking
once a year, was making fifty million dollars a year.
I don't begrudge her a dime of it, but I'm
just saying he was a guy that everybody would be like,
look at what he did for the team. Arch Manning's
looking for a little bit of that good will.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
By the way, I love the Tom Brady story. They
played that. They said the other day about how he
brought his offensive linemen all luxury vehicles, but he didn't
tell them they were all one year leases they had
to give He had to give them bags.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Well, I mean, look, you got I read the fine print,
and you doing.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Like that's not giving him a car.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Come on, man, We'll talk about gifts and the good,
the bad, the ugly, because across the NFL there's a
metal stand for sure. We'll get into that as we continue,
but first, for the final time tonight, we head over
to Brianna Murro, who's done a fantastic job keeping a
surprised of what has been a pretty wacky day in sports.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Yeah, guys, the Nuggets are and are playing these rooms
and it's overtime. They're on top of them, one thirty five,
nine seconds left to go. Anthony Edwards was ejected. He
got two technical fouls in his span of like five seconds,
which is just madness.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
He did a really weird thing of kind of tackling
Jokic on inbounds.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Yeah, that made no sense, and then he was like
kind of gesturing like throw me out, throw me out,
and he was kind of doing that weird like I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Come at me, bro Yes, I don't know. But he
signed autographs for a couple of kids. He gave one
of them his jersey on the way out. That was
kind of cool. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
So he finished with forty points, but Nicolea Jokic fifty
four points, sixteen rebounds, fifteen assist for his fifteenth triple
double of this season. Elsewhere in the NBA, the Rockets
curb stomped the Lakers one nineteen to ninety six. The
Warriors knocked off the Mavericks one twenty six to one sixteen.
The Spurs got their eighth straight victory and beat the
thunder one seventeen to one oh two, and Jalen Brentson
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scored thirty four points and the Knicks comeback win against
the Cavaliers one twenty six to one twenty four. In
the NFL, the Broncos beat the Chiefs twenty to thirteen,
bo Nicks one hundred and eighty two yards, passing one
touchdown and one pick in the win. Denver is still
in play for the one seed, and if the Chargers
lose on Saturday, they can also clinch the AFC West.
The Vikings beat the Lions twenty three to ten, Detroit
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officially eliminated from playoff contention, and the Cowboys beat the
Commanders thirty to twenty. Thanks guys, Mary, Christmas have it guy.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
Guys Grey, thank you for being here with us. We
appreciate y'all on this team coming together. It's a big
thing on a Christmas Day. Don't make light of it.
You know, everybody puts their family, friends, whatever, on hold
for a minute, try to entertain and engage and deal
with each other. And certainly we know a lot of
you are out there going through whatever you are, maybe
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just getting away from the family for a minute or
two to listen to a segment. Maybe you're with us
for the four hours, Jason, we saw you online and
for the others that have written in over the course
of the night, we appreciate you. It's not lost on
us that we we are, you know, a nice, kindred
spirit and community in this whole radio business, and we
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appreciate you being out there and Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
To yes, Merry Christmas. Amen to that. And always a
tough time for some people during the holiday. They're alone,
or maybe they're you know, their kids had to go
to their in laws house or something to that effect
that they you know, rotate.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
But you know.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
It's you get through it. You listen to us, and
we get you through those tough times.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Oh yeah, and you know you can be mad at
Arnie instead of whatever alien in your life. That's the
way it works, no question. That's taking genius one at
Swollen Dome. No, truly, it's a blessing to be able
to do this, and we appreciate that feedback coming back
our way, positively or negatively. You can tell me you
hate me, I don't care. You're still listening. So as
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long as you're still out there, turn it up a
little bit. Louder. We appreciate you. And as we continue,
I mentioned the Christmas gifts. There were a couple there,
and then the Jets are doing their best to play
the Grinch. A very curious case that found its way
to the back page of the post. We'll discuss that
as we wrap up shop. Here it's Fox Sports Radio
(33:33):
on a Christmas Night with Arnie Span. You're out, Mike Harmon,
and this is Fox.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Oh, there is the greatest movie villain of all time.
Uncle Billy, tell me I'm wrong. It's a wonderful life.
As we celebrate the end of a beautiful day of sports.
Sure the games might not have been great, but you
enjoyed the company and you enjoyed hanging out with us
here at Fox Sports Radio. Mike Garman alongside my guy
(34:05):
Arnie Span. You're in for Jason Smith. We'll do it
again and run it back tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
As he calls it the Power Hour. As we finished,
we got Bonus Hour, The bon Bonus Hour.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Come on, now, I don't know it used to be
the power hour power out. Well, the power hour is
the last hour. But since you do four hours, the
power hours the third hour.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Oh okay, I just got to get your terminal used
to it.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Come on, I don't know if you're moving in. Uh,
you'll be back with me tomorrow at stick a Genius
one at Swollen Dome. If you spy anything in the
sporting universe that tickles your fancy, we always have our
eyes on the world, as it were, for the sports
and entertainment cross section. But there was a story I
found earlier that really just kind of said it all,
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and it surrounded the New York Football Jets. Yes, even
with Jason Smith not here. We get into the Jets
and they had a kicking contest, right one of these things.
You're you're in the the bowels of the stadium, you know,
the periphery where they set up the Carnie games and
and try to sell your credit cards by giving you
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a tote bag and all those kind of things. They
had a deal in Long Island. Super Fan is how
she's termed chance to kick a field goal at halftime
at this Sunday's game to win one hundred thousand.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Dollars about this Ashley GERVAISI.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
She goes and her dad was a Jets fan. He
since passed, so you know, get the violin out when
they add those details to it all. But was told
that the kick to Cash competition would not include her
because she's a high school soccer coach. So she was
kicking during a tailgate event back in September.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
But she did play in college though, did she not?
Speaker 2 (35:53):
She played college? Yes, she played Division one soccer and
now she's a soccer coach.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Right.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
At at some point, you fill out a form and
you check some boxes. Right, so even if you get
through the preliminaries before the end game, everybody's going to
go back and look at those forms that she was upfront.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
She was upfront, not honus with them.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Well, and that's where the rub is, right. Does their
heart grow three sizes like the Grinch before Sunday? Or
do they ban it? They said they never mentioned anything
about banning coaches. She had told them she was the
Division one soccer player. Quote that was life changing money
for me. I was confident I could make it. And
it's the first time I'm hearing any of these coaching questions.
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So she's thirty three, played at Stonybrook as a goalkeeper
from twenty ten to twenty fourteen. Spotted outside MetLife Stadium
at a September game, asked by Jets reps, Hey they're
pretty good, why don't you try? And they never asked
her if she was a coach. You know, that's there's
circumstances all the time, like, hey, we asked you question one.
You answered no. It's like cool, you're in. Well, but
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question five that my disqualify, you know, like for many things.
She qualified to kick for the Big Bucks by nailing
a twenty yard field goal in the fan zone during
an October contest. So bracketology comes to fandom and now
there's a petition and all of this to let her kick, let.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Her kick her, let them play, let them play, bad
news bearers. I don't understand why it's don't they want
somebody to win. That's why you're doing the thing. Besides,
you have insurance for the thing, unless insurance isn't gonna
pay because she's a coach. Are they saying it's worse
to be a coach to actually a division.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
I thought the division would be enough to say goodbye, Yeah,
even if you are a cheaper.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Yeah, look, give her a chance. She didn't play football.
If if she played, it was a guy that played
football Division one football, whether it was like an offensive
lineman or a kicker, wouldn't make a difference. I'd say, Okay,
he actually played football, so I could maybe see that.
But I mean, come on, man, let let her kick.
But see what she can do. So what if she
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played soccer in college just because she's a coach, that
doesn't mean anything. I can't believe they're doing this, especially
from a NFL franchise with so much money. I mean, gosh,
how much money are they worth? Let her kick for
one hundred thousand dollars? What's the big deal.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
It just seems to me when you have the level
of futility that you've had for so many years, where
your run as the owner is roundly mocked to where
the best thing that's happened to you in a very
long time was the butt fumble.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
That's that's the most memorable thing other than Aaron Glenn dancing,
I guess during your return. Otherwise, it's been a decade
and a half of futility. Why you would not take
the publicity win and reverse course. Finally a good rand.
It's a hunder grand. Okay, that's a couple of parking spots,
that's a couple of beer sales. It just seems like
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an obvious hey week in over the court of public opinion,
if only for a minute, because that's what it'll be.
I mean, she'll win the one hundred grand or she
won't and it'll blow past. But if she wins, then
it's the goodness of the Jets that they honored her opportunity.
She does the morning shows, the meet and greets, goes
and kicks some footballs. Hey kids, let's go kick some footballs.
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Maybe she recruits a couple of kids to play some
soccer and away we go.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
I agree one hundred percent. IFIVE find out that the
Jets didn't do it because the insurance was going to
get canceled and they would be on the hook, then
I'd really lose my mind. I'm wondering even if they
even have insurance for something like this. Remember there was
Lloyd's London back in the day. Remember that.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
Well, sure you'd have any part of your body protected, yes, exactly,
And if your hand model like George Costanz, it would
be your hand for your already Spaniards.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
That lumberrow Lloyd's's out there.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Sure, okay, yeah, we don't hear about it as much
because there's more competitors now that get into that space.
Because it's like a lot of insurances. You pay the
premiums and never actually collect or when you try to,
they fight you. Oh no, that's the state of California.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Look what I did there.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
And then you had a bunch of guys give out
some pretty big, big gifts along the way from quarterbacks.
Did you see the Josh Jacobs, the running back for
the Packers. What he gave some really massive diamond necklaces.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Oh that wasn't. The suv The little SUVs are the little.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
Yeah, the go carts, the go carts, Yeah, those were
pretty good. And then you had all sorts of other things.
Jacoby Brissett got interrupted during his presser today by his
line and he's like, oh, let's not do this. But
he took care of them with some stuff. Because the
guy has claimed the number one job, he's already spanning
it for Jason. We'll do it again tomorrow. I appreciate
you all hanging out with us. Merry Christmas, hold tight
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