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August 30, 2025 • 41 mins

Jason Smith & Steve DeSaegher discuss now that Micah Parsons is a Green Bay Packer, he has a huge chip on his shoulders from how wronged he felt from the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hello, Welcome inside Fineal Hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon or special delivery Steve
de Sager. Thank you in for Harmon tonight and uh
I gotta tell you Steve O big night in college football,
it's fun. Like you know, I really wish this isn't

(00:47):
a this isn't a perfect world because it's it's kind
of it would be kind of hard to do that,
But I would love for there to be a world
where college football at the beginning of the season got
a little bit more than just Labor Day weekend to
get some of the spotlight. Like I wish we had
two or three weeks of college football before the NFL started,

(01:08):
Rather give them that. Then the NFL starts, we get
into it. Because I feel like, you know, college football
is a sport that we talk about going into Saturday,
and it's a really big preview. Obviously, NFL, you know,
dominates all week. But then you get to Monday and
it's like, okay, we spend so much time talking about
the NFL on Monday and Tuesday off the Monday night games,
and then we get to Wednesday, and all of a sudden,

(01:28):
Thursday Night football is here, and okay, now we're looking
at like college football really sort of disappears by Monday,
and really, this is the one weekend where college football
is runs unopposed, all right, like this this is absolutely
running unopposed at this point, but it's only one week.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
I will say, it's nationally you're talking about that college
football has moments of disappearing. There are regions where, believe me,
it never disappears.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
We do have a as you would expect, larger slate
of games coming up on Saturday, and it is not
just the first big weekend of college football. It is
a holiday weekend, so we will have games on through Monday, because,
as you mentioned, the NFL is not starting till Thursday,
when Philadelphia hosts Dallas cannot wait for the schedule through

(02:14):
the weekend, but particularly tomorrow, and it's gonna start with
the big noon kickoff noon Eastern on Fox TV. Number
one Texas at number three Ohio State.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Now, speaking of college foot we'll have more on that
coming up in a bit. We'll give you our big
pick between Texas and Ohio State. The game, the new
game of the decade, that's a few hours away, and
you know, maybe I'll able to tell you what happens
if Dave Portnoy actually gets to appear on camera. But
the day after for Micah Parsons and the Cowboys brought

(02:45):
us nearly as much entertainment as the first day. I can't,
I can't, I can't in good conscience say it was
as much because boy Jerry Jones's press conference, which was
be a better idea if he just didn't say anything.
That was just gold Man, you know, him discovering it.
You know, after the trade of Micah Party, when Micah
Parsons wanted out, they had to stop the run. That's
my favorite part. We got to stop the run. Didn't

(03:06):
know this, but we have to stop the run. So
let's make a trade, right, But we got stuffed today
from both the Cowboys and Parsons for different new angles
on this that makes you look at things a little
bit differently. All right, Now, first we got to hear
from Brian Schottenheimer, right, Cowboys head coach. Who now is
I mean he said yes to the job, so you
can't feel too bad for but you know, put in

(03:26):
the situation of trying to figure out what's next talking
to his team about Micah Parsons and what they where
they go from here. Big meeting, Yeah, with the team
today and one of the things he said after he
talked with the team was that, hey, our goals for
this season are still the same. What he said was
he said nothing.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Nobody there, Yeah, nothing, good luck.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Schottenheimer said, Look, our goals haven't changed, right, the goals
haven't changed, So that means nine or ten wins, one
playoff game and continuing the thirty five year old drought
of a Super Bowl. But but uh, look the main
thing is.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That and not last year for the no no, no,
well look they would.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
If Dak hadn't gotten hurt, they would have gotten Look,
Dak's a good quarterback. I mean, if you can't treat
Dak Prescott like you know, but Dak's a good quarterback.
But that's the Cowboys ceiling every years nine or ten wins,
and that's what they're honestly what you're hoping for in
that division, which now has two teams that are markedly
better than you and the Giants. So that's the big thing.

(04:34):
But him saying, we had a passionate conversations today with
with with with the team. You know, we talked him,
We had a we had a you know, a real
conversation and it got passionate. Uh you know, but it
was still good the communication he has with his team.
So I wonder, Steve, if passionate means hey, what the
hell are we doing? Man? I get up, but I
get a notification on my phone we traded Micah Partson's

(04:55):
who's gonna make up for those sixty sacks? Come on, man,
what are we doing?

Speaker 3 (04:59):
That's exactly what the that means. Passionate means Wow, we
got some pushback on this. Wow, dude, I'm just the messenger.
I just got this gig. I've never been a head
coach before. Maybe you could you know, we have a
general manager and he happens to be the owner who's
paying your contract. Maybe you could chat with him.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
You know, he walked in saying, guys, just let you know,
first of all, I did not make this trade right.
That's not met Hey Clark, sorry, happy you're here, man,
but I did not make this trade right.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Just so you got that's right. I'm offensive coordinator. I
don't even know that we have a defense. You can't
blame me.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
But think about how when he talks about how passionate
it was, because you know how this has gone over
in the Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Locker room right like a lead balloon.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Things. Two things for the Cowboys before you get the Parsons.
Number one, if you think it's bad in Dallas now
with the fans and the team after this trade, you
wait and see what happens if the Cowboys start getting
boast rates earlier early in the season.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Let's start with Philly, as we mentioned so.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Right, so that'll be and that'll be national TV Week
one next week. Good bleep and luck. That's gonna make
right now look like a guy in the street giving
away money, because you can imagine if they start losing early,
because this was Jerry Jones punting on the season a
week before. We don't need the best defensive player in
the NFL. We have to move them now. Oh boy,

(06:19):
So now you're sending the message that yeah, hey, we're
we're not better. You can't tell me we're better now
everybody knows they're not. You can't. You can't pull the
wool over the players eyes. They know they're there in
the locker room every day. But you think it's bad
now with the reaction from the fans who hate their
team more than they hate their rivals. Now, I guarantee
you Cowboys fans hate their team more than they hate

(06:39):
the Eagles. Right, that's how much. That's how mad Cowboys
hold on. You wait until three four weeks into the
season when it's the fans and it's this trade that
continues to loom over the team and seeing the Cowboys
lose and the and what it is for the players
who have to live with this every single day. I mean,
remember what happened to John Grudner. You traded Khalil Mack

(07:01):
Right when every week was a strip sack and a
and a return for a touchdown. It was like, man,
did you make a really bad job.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
That's when we got to make the day. Ask that
arden Key he can take over for mac right, key,
everything is fine. Can I just think of what might
be the worst case scenario we can think of over
the next month for the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, you lose
at Philadelphia, that seems quite realistic Thursday night. Yeah, then

(07:28):
what if you lose your home opener to the Giants
after that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
And Jackson off the bench for three touchdowns in the
second half, and then you.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Lose at the Bears and you're oh and three the.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Fourth game Caleb Williams four touchdowns, three p fifty through
the air.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, what if you're oh and three going into the
game to end the month of September. It's Sunday Night
Football and the Cowboys are hosting Micah Parsons and the
Green Bay Packers, and Parsons sacks Dack causes the big
turnover to change the game, and Dack's out for a month.
That's about the worst case scenario that I can think of.

(08:07):
Where you I was gonna say, reverse run the table
for September. You're going nowhere and the guy you trained
is the guy that affects the game to give you
that l at the end of the month.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Well, here's the thing. I will tell you this if
that happens, and and and that loss to the Packers
and Parsons has a big day, the Cowboys will just
quit on the season. And I don't mean they'll be no,
I mean they're not gonna play any more games. They'll say, listen,
we're done. We'll see you next year. We're gonna all
go away on vacation. Everybody that plays us now gets
a win. Right, It's like a It's like the youth

(08:39):
team that forfeits because listen, at like three four weeks in,
we can't get the players, a couple of girls quit.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Or a good nights for your jets.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Get we'll get it, buye and a win. But look
the other part, weirdly, right, weirdly for the Cowboys as
this is that in a really strange way. Right again,
think it's bad now, you just wait going into this season. Right,
the Cowboys are always the number one story in the NFL,
right because they're the Cowboys, Right, we know this, But

(09:08):
this was kind of a garden variety year where the
Cowboys were a big story. Right, Cowboys are always big.
Jerry Jones, Dak Prescott makes it that way, like they're
always a big story. But this year was more of
a okay, so they're going in, but no one really
had expectations for the Cowboys. You know, maybe if things
go right, the offense can be really good. And I

(09:28):
think the offense can be really good. I think they
can actually have a really good year offense. And maybe
it's a year where hey, just don't get in a
shootout with the Cowboys because Dak is hot and he's
got a couple of really good receivers and a really
good tight end. Because Ferguson had a big year when
Dak was healthy two years ago, So that'd be that top.
But it's a general year where other stories would creep up.
Right if Patrick Mahomes suddenly turns into Mahomes of three

(09:50):
years ago, Wow, look at the story that would be, right.
Caleb Williams if he turns out to be great in Chicago,
Chador Sanders if he ever winds up starting for the
Browns Week eight. That But now, because of this trade,
the Cowboys have become the number one story in the
NFL every single week for the first half of the season. Good, bad,

(10:10):
and different. They trade Micah Parsons. They're terrible. Everybody jumps
up and down on them. We knew it. They're good.
You get people who want to say this trade is
great for them. Look at the attention Jerry Jones does
a victory lap. Or even if they're mediocre, they're terrible,
they'd be better with Micah Parsons. Like, no matter how
it goes, every week, because of this trade, the Cowboys

(10:31):
become story number one in the NFL. And I guarantee
you that's what Jerry Jones is walking around Valley Ranch
did today all today, go say, turn us into the
big story. Thought we weren't gonna be, but now look
were turned cowboys. Cowboys cowboys. Right, Let's go out to
happy hour everybody. What a great day for us. It's
a Friday. We don't play game for another week. We're
happy now. I got us relevant again by trading Michah Parsons.

(10:53):
And if we need to middle of the season, I
could trade Dak or CD. It depends. It depends how
Dak is playing. So but really, in a weird way,
he has amped up the attention on the Cowboys to
now where they're the biggest story in the NFL this year,
and in the first half of the season. I don't
see there being something that's bigger than the Cowboys coming
off of this trade of Michaeh Parsons.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
We'll see if it lasts passed the Green Bay game,
depending how that matchup goes and the first month of
the season. But Micah Parsons did play a majority of
the games last year. In thirteen games, he had twelve sacks.
There were a handful of other Cowboys with about five sacks,
roughly tied four second. The Dallas defense, they allowed twenty

(11:35):
eight points per game last year. That is second worst
in the entire NFL, second worst to only Carolina. So
I realized they were atrocious. With Micah Parsons. You might
get better getting first rounders from in this case, Green
Bay each of the next two years. Okay, I agree

(11:55):
with all of that. There are so many holes for
you to fill, general Manager, and you've botched this up
so royally. Do you not see that it's almost gotten
to the point of whack a mole? There are so
many problems cropping up with the Cowboys, and pretty soon
it's going to be decades plural worth of problems cropping up.
You're not solving anything. You're just running around in circles

(12:18):
and not going forward, Cowboys in the NFC Championship. Maybe
in our lifetimes that might happen again, and arm right,
I'm not sure about that at this point in our one.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
What happens next the Cowboys in the NFC Championship or
the end of the final Bobby Benia Day, that's twenty
thirty five.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
What happens for that's really not that far away when you're.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Look all right, all right, let me give you a
different one. Let me give a different one. The Cowboys
in the NFC Championship or the end of the Dodgers
Paying Show. Hey o, Tani, that's ten years after that.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Okay, here's why I don't have to explain why I'm
going to side with the Cowboys on this. Okay, I
don't mean to be morbid, but the guy who happens
to be general manager right now, he's elderly.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh wow.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Therefore, perhaps some other decisions will be made in the
next twenty years of Dallas Cowboy history.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Okay, Okay, I thought i'd put that gently enough.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Woo. No, no, okay, no, okay, I got you there,
I got you. Uh listen, So there's the Cowboys, right
understand that that's where we're at the day after. Now,
let's get to MICHAEH. Parsons for a couple of minutes, right,
because this is as good as things can be from
Micah Parsons. He wanted out. He got his trade, he
got the biggest contract of a non quarterback in NFL history.

(13:42):
Here he was today talking about now his new NFL
life in Green Bay.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I looked on that wall and I saw Brett fav
I saw Reggie, I saw all those legends, and I
was like, I gotta be there, and you know, you
go and you go near the draft room and they're
all having their hands up and they having that moment.
I'm looking for that moment, and you know, I'm going
to take advantage of this moment and maximize it to
reach that moment.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So this is the what could be a dark side
from Micah Parsons. Right. Look, I love the fact that
he understands the pageantry and the legacy of the Green
Bay Packers. Right, He's going to a great situation. But
this is the thing, right, this is the dark side
from Micah Parsons. He wanted out. It's been a very
emotional last few months. He had zero saying. He said
I didn't have any say where I was getting traded.

(14:28):
I didn't know where I was getting traded. But at
some point you do you know, Okay, it's the packers,
because the packers aren't making that trade unless they know
you're going to agree to a new contract.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
Corus So.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
But he said, I had no say. We knew the
Packers were interested a few days ago. Right, Remember that
rumor was, hey, packers want to talk to the Cowboys
about Micah Parsons. That was out there a couple of
days ago. So where there was smoke, there was fire.
So that's going on. But this is Micah Parsons now,
who is hitting the point where he's gonna be in

(14:58):
the middle of his prime as an NFL player. Now
maybe he's a Miles Garrett type player where in his
early thirties he can still be dominant for a couple
of years. He's right now, this is your Yeah, He's
had his the first half of his prime. Now the
back half of his prime is what he's gonna have.

(15:19):
He didn't choose where he goes to play, and he's
there for the next four years because he signed for
the money, so he got the he's got his bag.
He got what he wanted right in great moment today
talking about how I could tell my mom to retire
and and it's an awesome, awesome thing. But he didn't
get to go free agent and pick his destination. He
didn't get to have any input on, hey, I really
want to go here. He didn't get to pick a

(15:41):
team or a system that he thinks can best utilize
his talents. He didn't get to pick the coaching staff
that he likes the most. It was here's your trade,
and now you're here for the next four years. Like
that's a big life change to suddenly go from Okay
here I am. I thought it was going to be
a Dallas cowboy. Now the last few months I've been living,
you know, in purgatory every day. I don't know what's happening,

(16:04):
but I just know I'm miserable. Now you get your
you get your wish, you get your lease on le
hey boom, you're getting your trade. You're getting out. Great.
Where am I going? Green Bay? Four years? Here's your money?
Hope you're happy. Like that's a big change for him,
and it better work or boy, the packers are gonna
be stunn Like it better work for him in their
system now I think it will. Parsons is kind of

(16:24):
a plug and play guy, and he's that talented. But
the one, the one dark side is that, Hey, when
you're a player and you become one of the best
players in the game, like you're the best defensive player,
you want to be able to pick where you go, right,
You want to pick where you go where you get
your contract, and you did not have a say in that.
So that's always a big question. Are you we going
to use you the right way? Like go back to

(16:44):
Jamal Adams, like he talked his way out of New
York with the Jets. He was just miserable. Miserable, miserable
would go on the radio and say things even though
the Jets wanted to give him money, make him a
franchise player, No, I want out. So the Jets trade
him to Seattle, and what happens He's beat in the league. Now.
Didn't work out in Seattle. Yeah, he got paid, he
got some money, but his career has been eh. Instead

(17:06):
of what could have been a legendary career where he
could have been a player with much more cachet around him,
he went and it never really worked that great in Seattle.
He was never able to stay healthy and what could
have been a yearly Pro Bowl maybe Hall of Fame
like career was just Yeah, it was disappointing. And that's
really what it's like for Jamal Adams. So you think
about it because again didn't have his pick. You know,

(17:28):
you're the one of the best young players in the league,
one of the best young box safeties in the game.
You want to get to pick where you No here,
you go go to Seattle, hope you're happy. H Okay.
So that's been a little bit of the dark side,
is that when you don't pick your destination, your happiness
and your ability to fit in and to be able
to dominate and play the same way you played in
your old system, that's a thing, right, that's a thing
that that that's a that's a worry. That's the only

(17:49):
worry I have for Micah Parsons, And that suddenly it
went from I want and I want out and now suddenly, okay,
here's a day later, and now you know where your
next four plus years are going to be in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
Or he'll do the teacher want and get another huge
contract when he's thirty. I mean that might actually happen.
And by the way, I know we got a break here.
Can I just say, Micah Parsons and all athletes, you
don't fool us with the whole gotta feed my family garbage.
That's what it is. Your signing bonus out of college

(18:20):
was almost ten million dollars. Don't tell us today that
your mom can retire ten million dollars as a kid
out of college, plus the salaries you've been getting the
last four years.

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Speaker 1 (20:03):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon
Special Delivery Steve de Seger in for Harmon tonight and
I'll tell you what Steve yes looking at tonight In
college football and seeing where where we sit at going
into Week one. We had the Colorado lost tonight, right,

(20:24):
we had Boise State losing last night badly. Already, like
already I'm sitting here thinking of how they like this
is the way with a new playoff, with the new playoff, right,
because now it's like, okay, you wait, let things go
Like with the new playoff, twelve teams are going all right,
they lost and they lost and that might help my team,
squeak in if we get have a two loss season,

(20:47):
Like I'm already thinking, not just me, like I think
Syracuse is gonna get the oh byt Evangeli Heisman Trophy,
but like like not that serious, but like I'm thinking
about what the playoff implications of this are already with
these couple losses. Hey, maybe Colorado's gonna be great and
maybe that no up they lose to Georgia Tech tonight,
and okay, Boise State's gonna be that bid snatching team

(21:09):
from the big No. No, Boise State lost, okay, scratch them.
Like I'm already thinking about playoffs.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
So we're already thinking I got to keep an eye
on James Madison. What's going on there? Might be the one.
You know, all twelve teams from last year's playoff were
ranked in this year's AP preseason Top twenty five, including
number sixteen SMU. The SMU football program had not been
preseason ranked in forty years. So actually that's in the

(21:38):
Dallas area, isn't it. I wonder if, because we just
talked about Dallas, it's been what thirty years without going
to an NFC title game? Yeah, I wonder if while
gonna actually stretch longer? What's you asked? What's going to
be longer? And p Sason rankings or the Cowboys? How
long they go without making the NFC the title game?

(22:01):
We got it? Okay. By the way, there is a
late game on FS one right now. It's two and
a half minutes to go. Central Michigan kicked a field
goal and now leads sixteen to fourteen at San Jose State.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Whoa look at Central Michigan. They're members of my my
wife's family that went to Central Michigan. They're all over
they went to I got Central, I got Western, I
got Eastern. I don't have Northern Michigan but U and
of course University of Michigan. But nobody in Michigan State.
No oh no, no, no, no Michigan.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
That was the earlier game on FS one today is
Michigan State beating Western Michigan.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Yeah, that was a blowout. That was Yeah. I feel
bad for what because my cousin goes to Western and
she's on.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
The Uh yeah, they really weren't in it.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Yeah, no, she's on the sin. They'll get them back
in synchronized skating. That trusts me. Western Michigan is really
really good. Get back in cincro skating.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Yeah, synchronized skating.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah yeah, oh yeah yeah. Western Michigan's terrific cincro skate.
We went to the Sincro Skating champion National Championships a
year ago. I was in Vegas. What was the hotel
was that they had the big ice rink obviously had
the big ice rink the Orleans and it was awesome.
It was awesome.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
I seen ice skating at the Orleans.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, and the best part was because it was you know,
syncro skating, like you could sit and I got like
my I got my feet over the chairs in front
of me, got my arms around us. This is the best.
I love those sporting events.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
It's fantastic. Syncro skating two people in the ice at
the same time.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Oh, this is team syncro. This is team sync. So
it's like like fifteen f I think sixteen skaters at once.
I think that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
So it's it's like what we see with the Summer Olympics,
you know, in the pool, the artistic swimming as.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
They call it now, except it's in skates and it's
not underwater.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
I was unaware of this sport completely.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
If you could skate underwater, that's a new sport entirely.
I really want to see if you can pull them.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
You could do it.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Once boy really struggling to skate down the ice even
though they are underwater, very very very slippery down there.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
Good lift upside down. I can see this data. It's
still up. Yep, they're not coming up. That's it. Very impressive.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Once one time, that's it. It's over. So we are
less than twelve hours away from college football kicking this season.
The official kicking off of college football with Texas and
Ohio State right hasn't been a bigger opening game in
the regular season in so long. Texas now has become

(24:27):
the betting favorite over Ohio State in the last three hours,
it was Ohio State by a point point and a half.
Now it's Texas by a point point in a half.
And for this game, I'm gonna tell you I'll take Texas.
I know it's tough Ohio State at home, but looking
at the quarterbacks, look, arch Manning is arch Manning. I
think the guy's going to be really good. Now we'll

(24:48):
get to him a little bit more in detailed a
minute with a different story. But he's played a lot
of football, right, He's played enough to come in where
this is not He's got to get his feet wet
in front of one hundred thousand fans in the horseshoe.
All right, arch Manning and Tech, they return a few
more players.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
He has experienced because he's actually played more football than say,
Trey Lance. Uh, Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Oh, who's played more football? Anthony Richardson or Trey Lance?
Who do you think since twenty twenty who's played more football?

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Well? That one season Trey Lance played one game? So okay,
all right, in college I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
Okay, Yeah, No, I think I think it's Anthony Richardson.
I don't think it's close, He's not even close. But look,
I'll go with arch Manning tomorrow. He's going to get
better as the game goes on. Look, Ohio State's terrific
right Caleb Downs. If he was a quarterback, he'd be
the number one pick in the draft, and it's not
even close. That's how talented he is. Like, Ohio State's

(25:42):
got the two most talented guys in the country at
wide receiver and at safety. Right, Caleb Downs is just
that good. But arch Manning is going to make more
plays with his legs as the game goes on. There's
gonna be more points in this game than you expect.
And Ohio State's got a lot of moving pieces, right.
They got a lot of new parts, including their quarterback.
You got new coaches. There's just a lot for Ohio State.

(26:05):
And I think as the game goes on, Texas being
a little bit more experienced and art I'll take arch
Manning over Julian Saying in game one and give me
a nice day from arch Manning and Ohio State falls
to Texas at home thirty one to twenty.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Three, or arch scrambles and fumbles and the game stays
low scoring and any little turnover will mean something for
the next two quarters. And then neither team will be
scoring twenty eight in this game tomorrow. And by the way,
did you notice in the coaches preseason poll they really
have the flair for the dramatic and the television promotion.
Because Texas and Ohio State are one to two in

(26:42):
their preseason fall. Ohio State is number three in ap
beginning of the season, and Ohio State usually with a
great defense last year a sensational defense. I'm guessing a
little more on the lower scoring side for this.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Now here's the thing about this game, and here's the
big the scariest thing for college football. What if arch
Manning stinks? Right, Like, I mean, look, I've seen the
guy play for that kind of talent. Yeah, what if
he stinks not just tomorrow, but tomorrow would kick off
the narrative. If arch Manning stinks, that is a huge

(27:16):
blow for college football because he's not just a star
player coming into the season that it didn't work out
for and we move on. Like the entire off season
nationally has been geared towards arch Manning. He's the star
of college football, despite the fact you haven't started yet.
He's the star, his legacy, he is royalty, he is

(27:38):
the show. He's been built up like there's only one
option greatness. I don't know how you pivot away from that.
If arch Manning is not good, right, Like, nationally, you
need the one or two big stars to raise the
sport look regionally, college football is always going to be great,
and it's kind of gone that way the last few years,
but now with more teams in the playoff, it's gotten

(27:58):
a bigger deal. Nationally, it's become people on the West
coast are worried more about results from the East Coast
and vice versa. But if arch Manning, he's that uniting
factor from coast to coast because he's not just a
star player. He's related to Eli and Payton, right, he's
arch Manning, his grandson. He's who we've been hearing about
for years. This is the guy that is the next
great superstar, super duperstar in college football. And if he stinks,

(28:23):
like that's a huge blow coast to coast for the
overall impact that this college football season is gonna have
on a coast to coast basically, so you just don't say, Okay,
well he stinks. Now, Hey, let's just hope that Bryce
Underwood is really good. In Michigan. It doesn't work that way, right,
it doesn't work. We've been this has been hyped up
so much that if he's not good, woo, that that's

(28:45):
really scary for college football.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
Well, if he's really not that good, then that begets
an immediate five part series on the SEC Network answering
that exact question, because they'll still find a way to
churn out the stories that we've been getting all off
season and of course in the week leading up to
this game. I do believe that you and I would
say that we think that's unlikely that he's got the stuff,

(29:08):
and whether he wins tomorrow or not, he'll have a
fine college career title or not.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think he's gonna he's gonna
be He's gonna be really good, right, but tomorrow if
he's bad, If he's great tomorrow, that the plot line's gone, right. Wow.
When you're great against a great team, hey man, look
out man. I mean you have stat games coming up after.
But if he's great against a great team, but if
he's not good, that opens the door, because hey, you
expect great players to play big and big games, right,

(29:37):
Great players don't come up small in big games in
college football, they all come up big right now, the
NFL is not always the case, but college football, big
players play big in big games. If he doesn't, that's
gonna be the narrative of whoa over hyped arch man.
He's not really good And unfortunately, you're not gonna he's
not gonna get another shot at that question for the
month because he's gonna have stat games where it's gonna

(29:57):
be Yeah, that's great that he's got four touchdowns in
the first half AG in sam Houston State, but uh okay,
he's not playing anybody. You know, Eventually, he's going to
play another big game. But that's a storyline that's going
to linger for you know, into the you know, into October,
into the middle of October college football.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
I'm glad you brought this up as we're talking about
Texas because it's the Longhorns program that has one of
the greatest examples of a great player coming up big
in great games. Vince Young played two of the greatest
Rose Bowl individual efforts I've ever seen, and he did
it in back to back years. As I recall about
twenty years ago, beating Michigan and USC. So yes, the

(30:34):
greats are great because of what they do in the spotlight.
Tim Tebow had a lot of highs. You know, people
talked about Tommy Frasier at Nebraska. Matt Lioner before the
loss to Texas had a lot of highs. It just
went it. This is a spotlight game. It's an odd
thing to say when college football. It's not only months

(30:55):
and months away from the finish of the season. It's
a loss doesn't kill you anymore in college football type
of the season. But to say that the spotlight isn't
there would be just fooling yourself.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
For tomorrow, exit out about a Fresco Jason Smith Steve
to say, you're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios,
so that's tomorrow. What about what we saw tonight? We
saw some amazing performances tonight, none better than Jonahtong and
the Mets offense against La Marlin. Steve had the details
on that and more with what's.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Trending Mets in Phillies each one. We will get to that.
In the late night college football game on FS one,
San Jose State and its opener completed a forty yard
pass leaping catch to get into the red zone. They've
just lined up for the winning field goal and missed
it from thirty three just over a minute to go.
Central Michigan is celebrating they'll take over, they can take

(31:48):
a knee sixteen fourteen. Central Michigan leads with a minute
thirteen to go at San Jose State, So just about
everything is final. UNLV in Kansas each one tonight, Apple
Atchians in Florida International Wake Forest at home won ten
to nine against Kennesaw State. Army lost at home in
double overtime to Tarleton State thirty to twenty seven. Army

(32:10):
committed three turnovers and had two late miss field goals,
a forty three yard are late in regulation, missed a
thirty five yard attempt in the second overtime. Georgia Tech
won at Colorado twenty seven to twenty on a forty
five yard touchdown run with about a minute left by
quarterback Haines King, who had nineteen carries, one hundred and
fifty six yards on the ground, three touchdowns, two turnovers.

(32:32):
On FS one, Michigan State twenty three to six over
Western Michigan. The game on Fox TV had Auburn winning
it Baylor thirty eight to twenty four. Quarterback Jackson Arnold
sixteen carries one hundred and thirty seven yards and two tds.
Twelfth ranked Illinois fifty two to three over Western Illinois
and Yes Texas at Ohio State on Fox TV Saturday

(32:54):
noon Eastern, with Utah at UCLA late Saturday nights on Fox.
The New England page its release Safety Jabrill Peppers women's
number one Arena Sabolenka advanced at the US Open and
number four Jessica Bagoula won her third round match, as
did Taylor Townsend of the US. Number six Ben Shelton
of the USA had to withdraw due to a shoulder injury.

(33:15):
Just two WNBA games, Indiana won seventy six to seventy
five at La No No. Caitlin Clark still out with
the growing and ankle injury, she did actually participate in
shoot around. Last Sunday, Atlanta won at home against Dallas
one hundred to seventy eight. The Dallas Wings are nine
and thirty one. They had to make sure to sign
enough people just to have enough players on the court

(33:36):
for this game tonight. To Major League Baseball, everything is
now a final. The Giants have won their six in
a row fifteen to eight. Over the Orioles, who've lost
five straight. The Dodgers still first in the NS by
two games over the Padres. San Diego lost seven to
four at Minnesota. The lost to Nestra Cortes and Padre
Shortstopsxander Bogarts goes on the injured list with a broken foot.

(33:58):
But then the Dodgers got shot out at home three
to nothing by Arizona. The Diamondbacks offense four for thirty
one with fourteen strikeouts, and they still won. Zach Gallon
over Blake Snell. Detroit and Texas each one on the road.
So did the Cubs Cubbies eleven to seven at Colorado,
Dansby Swanson two homers, six RBIs. Houston shut out the

(34:19):
Angels two nothing, holding the Halos to two hits. Houston
first in the Al West, three games over the Mariners,
who gave up two in the bottom of the ninth
at Cleveland. Guardians five for the final. Milwaukee and Pittsburgh
each one on the road. Yankees as well. Yanks have
won six straight Saint Louis and ten and Ning's won
at Cincinnati. Philadelphia with a run bottom of the ninth,
beat Atlanta two to one, and the Mets were nineteen

(34:40):
to nine winners over Miami, hitting six home runs. Juan
Soto is thirty thirty the year. Pete Alonzo is thirty
first the win in his major league debut to Jonah Tong,
five innings, one earned run, six strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (34:52):
Back to you King Tong, Steve king Tall, one of
the buddy coming out. Something good and something not so
good about the biggest story in sports tonight. That's next
right here, Jason Smith, Steve de Sager in for Harmon.
This is Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
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Speaker 1 (35:22):
Fox Sports Radio. The Jason Smith Show with Steve de
Saga in for Mike Harmon tonight and Look, the biggest story. Hey,
college football loans a spotlight this weekend. Colorado year three
under Dion Sanders, first year without Shador, first year without
Travis Hunter. They fall to Georgia Tech twenty seven to twenty.

(35:43):
Right now. The good news is look, because there's good
and bad news about this. Look. This is the big
result tonight. The good news is Colorado's still pretty good. Right.
It's they're not a world beating team. They're not terrible, right,
That's all the predictions have been all. They're gonna be
this good, They're gonna be this bad. The overunder for
them is five and a half wins. I feel really
comfortable about going over. Georgia Tech's a pretty decent team, right.

(36:05):
It's not like they opened up against you know, a
MAC team or an FCS team and lost at home,
and it's like tonight, yees, yeah, liked, didn't Army lose
to a high school team tonight? Didn't they live?

Speaker 3 (36:15):
I mean a really good high school state Texas?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah? Uh so, Yes, Georgia Tech is really good. Haines
King had a huge night running the football. It looked
does Does the Colorado have problems given up three hundred
yards on the ground? Sure, But Cadence Aalter is a
pretty good quarterback. He had a pretty good first game
transfer from Liberty, who was the most sought after guy
in the portal. Colorado plays in in the Big Twelve.

(36:38):
The Big Twelve schedule isn't that great. The toughest part
of their schedules at the end, when the team will
be in theory playing its best football. They will be
fine and this will be a victorious year for them
if they win between six and eight games. And that's
what I expect them to do. Right, you look at
this guy, don't win between the the'se got some dudes.
He's got some guys. It's okay, it's not a world

(36:58):
beating team, but it's also but you know, you can't
expect it to be Alabama. This is year three of
building something. And remember where Colorado was before he came in,
and give d On credit that he has turned this
program in from an afterthought into something on the national stage.
They have had a really good last couple of years
with attention, They've had a good year with talent. They've

(37:19):
had a good year you know, in winning a little bit,
but now, okay, you got to be able to sustain it.
Six to eight wins. That's a really positive It's a
good season for Colorado and shows you that in a
year where there's transition, that they are on the way
up and they're still building towards something really good.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
And the way their schedule works this year, the two
games against the preseason top twenty fos in their conference
are the last two games late November, about a month
from now, Colorado is due to play at TCU. We
talked earlier tonight about what TCU could mean for Bill
Belichick's team because that's the Monday night opener TCU at
North Carolina. TCU, though on the road, is favored. So

(37:59):
what will Colorado'll be doing when they have to play
at TCU. Again, if you're not familiar with the Big
Twelve standings, last year, Colorado was in it right toward
the end. There were a lot of teams bunched up
for the lead and a four way tie by the end.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
So that's the good part for Colorado. The bad part is, Wow,
if they run games like they'd run the last minute
at tonight's game against Georgia Tech. Yeah, okay, they're tanking
for Arch Manning's younger brother. I don't know who that is,
but they're tanking for a minute two left to go,
they're trailing by a touchdown, and you look at some
of the plays that Colorado ran in the final minute, right,

(38:37):
they run a bubble screen, they run two hail.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Mary's, and quarterback scramble, a.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
Quarterback scramble, and they don't use either of their last
two timeouts they go into and they lose this game
throwing two Hail Mary's on the final couple of plays
with two timeouts in their pocket. And this doesn't make
sense at any level. Look, Deon Sanders said, and it's
not that big a deal. We wanted to save the
timeouts we got, we got out of We got out

(39:05):
of bounds on the couple of plays you need to
get out of bounds. So it's fine, it's not a
big deal. I'm not gonna talk of this because you
guys want something to talk about. Oh boy, that really
isn't the case. Man, Take a little bit of responsibility, right,
Take some responsibility, because when you take off to get
the ball from your twenty yard line with a minute
two left to go, it's not about getting out of bounds.
It's being able to use the entire field to go down.

(39:26):
Because you have those two timeouts, you can throw the
ball and run plays to the middle field and not
stuff just outside the hash marks because if you get
caught in bounds, you're stuck. Right and that first play, hey,
couple of yards, all the time ticked off the clock,
you use a timeout. No, still not going to use
timeouts and to run two hail Mary's like, how are
you not calling a play with fifteen seconds left? Let's

(39:47):
get to the thirty yard line. You're a midfield Let's
get to the thirty yard Cadence salt is a veteran quarterback.
He failed by failing to deliver the ball where he
needed to Pat Sherman the OC. The play calling was
insane and d not using his timeouts, Like this is
where attention to detail is a really big thing, and
this separates the great teams from the also rans. And

(40:09):
this is the one question I've always had, like, Okay,
is that attention to detail there for Deon Sanders, because
that's the kind of coach you have to be. And
there was none of that in the final minute tonight.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
And the go ahead touchdown scored with over a minute
to go for Georgia Tech. So after the touchback, you've
got more than a minute to use and two timeouts
to use and they couldn't get pass midfield. By the way,
the late game is a final on FS one. San
Jose State did get the ball back for another field
goal attempt from fifty six, this time with the second
left that also was wide right. Central Michigan wins sixteen

(40:41):
to fourteen.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Oh wow, so that's that's two miss field goals.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
That's too much like the Army game. Maybe they were
watching the.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
Wow too soon for Army. Come on, Steve, O, that's
too soon for Army. Look at that. Come on, man,
exit out about a fresca Jason Smith. Steve just saying
you're in for my car?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
All right?

Speaker 1 (41:00):
See, but who do you got tomorrow? Texas or Ohio State?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
I kind of like Texas? Can I say that out loud?

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Sure you can. You can say that I like Texas too.
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