September 12, 2025 • 36 mins
Jason Smith: t's so difficult for a non-QB to win NFL MVP - but if there's anyone who can do it this year? It's Micah Parsons. He has the storyline & the production so far to seize the narrative.
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Hello, Welcome inside final Hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
I'm your poppy Chulo.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We got Jay Glazer coming up in about twenty minutes,
some great stuff from him. On the Thursday night game,
Packers win it over the Commanders twenty seven eighteen, a
game that wasn't really that close if you didn't get
to see it. It was a Packers domination from the beginning.
We talked about it last night. Why I picked the
Packers tonight. These are the games you get Micah Parsons
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for to cause havoc in the backfield and make Jade
and Daniels uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Tonna.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's exactly what tonight was. Even on plays he didn't
get to the quarterback. The Commander's offense is out of sync.
There's plays he's triple teamed on and he's still forcing
the play. A little bit earlier, the Commanders never looked
like they were in sync. The Packers had to lead
the entire game twenty seven to eighteen, but the real
score of the game feels like it should have been like, hey,
you know, forty five eighteen, Like that's the kind of
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blowout that they had.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm taking credit for the beatdown that I called
for last night minus three, minus three and a half.
However you got in. Daniel still finishes with an okay
stat line, you know, for fantasy purposes when it's all
said and done. But one thing that flows out of
this game. Remember we were tracking odds now at plus
seven hundred equal to the Eagles for the best.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
To the NFC.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is two games in the Packs against two really
good offenses, different styles, and the Packers defense, thanks to
Michael Parsons, has absolutely dominated. And I'll tell you this
to give you a little fun, little hot take here.
It's it's usually impossible, absolutely impossible for a position other
than a quarterback to win MVP. However, it's also about
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grabbing the storyline and being the story throughout the year,
and the Micah Parsons trade was such a big deal
coming in, He's got the storyline. Look how good the
Packers defense has been the first two weeks, and if
this is a Packers team that starts rolling through it
and look we said it, maybe they really are the
Super Bowl favorites. We joked around about it after they
got Michah Parsons, But maybe he is really that making
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them those big favorites. If the Packers defense plays like this,
guess who's gonna be there at the end for MVP
Micah Parsons. Now, it's almost impossible to beat out a quarterback,
especially when you know somebody, whether it's Josh Allen or
Joe Burrow, somebody's gonna throw forty touchdowns and be oh,
it's the most important position. But I'll tell you what,
Parsons has put himself in the position to be. Hey,
a heavy part of that conversation over the course of
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the season.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, I mean before it's all said and done. Don't
forget his quarterback was no slouch today either. Who's all
of a sudden up to uh number three in the
betting market? There Alan Jackson, see what I did there
down the Chattahoochee.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And then you got Jordan Love at plus seven hundred.
I had a Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow who are
now both eleven to one. Justin Herbert also surgery up
to twelve to one in this process. But yeah, domination performance,
and you got to stop calling him a linebacker, though.
I gotta correct you because he wants, you know, the
next deal. He's going the next five years. Okay, he's
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got to be an edge. That's because that's where you're
gonna get paid. You're not get paid as a linebacker.
He will worry about that in a few in four years,
he'll worry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
But it's a long lead, man, you gotta get that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, it's all building blocks, right if you start getting
the narrative out there, Look what he does and in
chaos he creates from the linebackers condition like, no, don't
call me that, don't.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Call me a tight end, but you play tight end? Yeah,
but it doesn't matter. I don't want to go. But
how many how many times do we see that?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
No, I want to be reclassified. I run out, you know,
mostly in pass and pass routes. So I want to
be a wide receiver. I want to be considered there.
It's like, nah, you're a tight end, get over it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So yeah, that look, that's really if you're talking about
anybody that can grab the headlines for MVP, it's Micah
Parsons outside of the quarterback. Now, unfortunately, things aren't all sunshine,
lollipops and rainbows for the Green Bay Packers. As you
know what we mentioned a few we mentioned last hour
on the show, how good Jordan Love is right and
this could be his bounce back year, turning into a
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quarterback that we thought he was going to be the
beginning of last year. And that's say a top seven
overall quarterback in the game. Still had a good year
last year, was hurt a little bit, was hurt the
beginning of the seasons. You don't know how much that
went through. Didn't quite capitalize on the year he had
in twenty twenty three, but it was very similar. But
still okay, yeah, we're kind of counting them out a
little bit. We're not expecting as much from Jordan Love,
but with this team he is on so far first
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two weeks quarterback rating one hundred and thirteen one hundred
and twenty four touchdowns, no picks. He is finding a
way to make it work with whoever has the best
at receiver. You know, this week it was Tyler Craft
who said, I never even had one hundred yard game
in college, and you know here he is his first
time in the NFL. He was wide open so many
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times tonight Jordan Love was able to find him. This
is the year that Jordan Love springboards and gets back
to being Hey, he's a top seven quarterback in the game, right,
that's the talent level Jordan Love hasn't clearly he's on
that start tonight, but he's going to have to do
without one of his best receivers for quite a while,
as Jaden Reid left the game earlier tonight shoulder injury
(05:30):
did not return. It is a broken collar bone for
Jaden Reid and he is going to be out, according
to the Packers, quite a while now. The flip side
of the sunny side of it is that you have
four or five receivers who are all of the same
talent level that are all pretty good. You're expecting, okay,
Matthew Golden to maybe take a step up and look
Golden would have had a touchdown tonight if Jordan Love
(05:52):
didn't severely underthrow him on fourth down. And really that
play was kind of weird from the start where the
Packers wanted to hurry up and run a fourth down play,
the officials wouldn't let him snap the ball and Lafleur
was screaming on the sideline. So then Love gets back
into the shotgun calls a play, So it was a
little weird to see it, but still he completely underthrows Golden.
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Would have been a touchdown because he had his defender
beat by three to five yards. So yes, you expect
Golden to step up. Eventually, Watson will be there. You
have Dobbs. Now clearly you can still throw to Dontavian
Wicks and look to night craft is a big weapon too, But.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Mean, look, Wick's had two catches right off the jump,
right first possessions, Like, all right, let's start spreading this
thing out.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And if you want to think that, okay, you can
keep this going. But boy, of all the receivers, Reid
is probably the most talented. He's the one guy that
gets out of all these receivers the Packers have had,
and anybody plays fantasy football knows every single disappointing wide
receiver the Packers have that I can't play him because
I can't trust him. Of all the guys they can
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least afford to miss, he's the one. He's the one
that clearly is the most talented. He's gonna catch sixty
some odd passes a year, which is probably gonna lead
the team. You have a lot of guys around there,
but he looks to be the one guy to separate
himself the most. It's him, and now you're not going
to have him for probably at least the next six
to eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I would assume fourteen yards per catch to his two
years and change. So moving the ball, and that was
the one thing I think that was encouraging. We talked
about Josh Jacobs and celebrating him. You had the over
on his eighty rushing yards and it took a little
bit of doing, but he finally got there and extended
that scoring streak ten straight games. So you have balance
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and you're gonna be able to work off play action. Eventually,
the timing with Golden who they drafted in the first round,
they'll get that down because really both attempts to Golden
should have been big plays, right, one should have been
a touchdown, the other should have been a big game
and love and he just didn't connect. So opportunity there.
But losing a guy that has shown as Reid did,
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he became the go to for a good chunk of
last season. It's a big loss, but again, operating from
the balance that you have on the offensive side and
now taking what was already a top ten defense and
making it that much more potent with Micah Parsons, you
can weather the storm. You look at their schedule these
next couple of weeks while they get read healthy. You've
(08:18):
got road games at Cleveland. We'll see what that defense
was or if it's just the usual a A Bengals
suck in September and then you're on the road at
Dallas for Week four. I had a Week five.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
By and then Week six Cowboys are still going to
try to get that game canceled. Hey, can we just
move that to later in the year, or you know,
we really don't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We really don't want to do Yeah, no, I mean, look,
you want to get it out of the way, rip
the band aid off and just be done with it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't really want that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But think about that the game of inches that it
is like if ceedee Lamb catches that ball in Week
one and the Cowboys win, Jerry gets to be chesty.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Hey, it worked out for us. Look what we did.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I told you Dak even when he you know,
missed all those games and made me look bad a
year ago. I mean, he's ready, and I got him,
and I got I got the CD. But you know
you're looking at that game. Uh is a big one
because that's a I think that's a Sunday night football
one age.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, they're going to cancel all the other games to
show that one, and then the following everybody else gets
a buye.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We just got the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Tail tailgate all day and then we'll get to it,
and then you've got week six, the aforementioned Bengals.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Uh, come to lambeau Field.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
By that point all it should be on all cylinders
and you'll have covered up whatever issue in the passing
game you got, you got enough weapons. And if Tucker
Craft's going to be this big a weapon as a
as a blocker and then sliding out into pass, uh,
that's a reception target targets and and and totals with
that much space, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now the flip side of tonight, Okay, so that's a
lot on the Packers, right, clear, Look they may be
the best team in football, right that. That's clearly what
Michael Parsons has done.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
M v P.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The commander side of it. They come into this year,
they pay Terry McLaurin. Okay, NFC Championship game last year.
We're getting back there, right, We're young, we are ascending.
We we got an incredible quarterback in Jade and Daniels
who in one year has become one of the top
five quarterbacks in the game.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You really love him. But tonight they lose Austin.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Eckler likely for the season, right, torn achilles, which is
what they're saying. It's a torn achilles. Likely, it's a
torn achilles and Austin Eckler's done for the year. Either
that or you're just doctor Smith. Bill Crossky Merritt is
a great story, Bill, right, He's a great story. They
call him Bill. It's Chacorry, but they call him Bill
because of his his They call him that from when
he was a kid, because his his resemblance. One of
(10:42):
the characters from the old the animated Cosby Show from
all the way back in the seventh Bill. Yeah, little Bill,
it's a great story. But clearly the Commanders they're in.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
A win now mode.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
With Jade and Daniels on a rookie contract you can't
give away this year. They absolutely need to trade for
running back. They've been really I get that, Hey, we
like guys in camp and and and we think things
are going so we can make that big trade at
the running back position. And but this is what you're
going into the season with. How bad are things with
Brian Robbinson.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's what I want. I want that, Yeah, Kurt hold
back for me.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean that that almost seems like a bit of
a bit of malpractice, where, Okay, you go in with
with Austin Eckler, who's thirty, so you can't give him
a big, a big work workload. You think that crosskey
merrit is gonna be good. But okay, you know you
need to you need as many weapons as you can,
and you're going in saying, hey, we're gonna take a
chance with our running back room. And clearly after tonight
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you have seen that, Okay, they need to run the football.
You can't have nineteen carries or fifty one yards. You
can't have games like that, right and didn't really run
the ball that great. The Giants are absolutely terrible. So
this is a team that I can tell right now
they should be making phone calls. Who are we going
to get to play running back? How long until we
call the Jets for Hall? Is it after they lose
to the Bills this week and they're zero and two?
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When do we call the Jets for Breese Hall? Because
you know that's gonna happen. You know, the Jets are
hey with him. They have other young running backs they like.
Breese Hall is gonna be a very popular name we
get closer and closer to the trade deadline. He had
a huge week one, right they're gonna you can get
you can get a lot for him right now. There's
also other guys as teams fall in and out of
of the of the races that we have to go
get somebody, but you gotta go get somebody big. But
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Breese Hall is gonna be at the top of everybody's list.
Because the Jets are starting over, they're a run heavy team.
They have a couple of running backs. They already really
like Braylan Allen is terrific, uh you know, giving him
the ball on fourth down and big plays. So he's
gonna be the name at the top of that list.
But yeah, if you, if you are the commanders, you
absolutely have to go out there and get somebody. And
(12:45):
I don't know if it's a case of where somebody
gets unseated or they wind up not being a part
of the the uh the offense like they were. But
you can't wait very long. You can't just say, well,
the deadline will get somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Uh no, you really might not be able to run
the football a lot. You have to sit here and say, hey,
in a month, what is our running back room going
to look like? What is the right we're gonna look
like at the beginning of October, because we got to
have somebody to be able to come in here that
we can get them the playbook that they can by
the time the middle of the season is here, then
they're running on all cylinders, not at the deadline. By
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the hey, by December, we're looking pretty good. No, no, no,
you got to do it quicker than that. The NFC
East is too, is the NFC itself is too competitive,
and you can see that's a crying need you have
been able to run.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But we talked about the Giants right that you expected
that their defense would be solid. Then it's the wait
and see until we're at Jackson, Dart, Malik, Neighbors and
company getting it done. But that wasn't a very clean game.
Right from an operations standpoint, there was a lot to
be desired. Now you bring in larrymy Tunsel to help
what was an okay but not great offensive line, and
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then he just got worked today. He looked like he
was maybe adding an extra year or two on his
oh dometer this offseason. As we spin forward to twelve
twenty five. The other guy that I would be curious
to look at was a guy that was injured a
bit in the preseason to the point where the aforementioned
Brian Robinson was potentially mentioned to be down there to
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work while he got himself back into shape. And that's
Devon h Chan down there in Miami. Because we saw
that no show effort that they put up in week one.
Now they had their team meetings, so maybe they come
out fired in week two. But how quickly do they
turn the page and just start divesting all their component
parts in coluding their coach. That can happen pretty fast.
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So h Chan the other name to watch in the
AFC East as we change up all the component parts,
it's the bills and everybody.
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Speaker 3 (17:33):
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Tyer'son one of those You know, I'm just thinking about
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Okay, okay, okay, and he leans over and takes his
hand and mixt the zero. The thing uh so big
night tonight in the NFL. Micah Parsons is a huge
difference maker for the Packers night again. If anybody can
win MVP in the NFL, that's not a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
A MICHAEH.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Parsons season. The storyline early on in the season, the
Packers are this good. The defense is that good.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Get in now one hundred and fifty to one.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'll tell you man, it was. He's been something so
far for the Packer.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Packers.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now earlier you had a chance talked to Jay Glazer
and he's had a great story about how Michah Parsons
ended up in Green Bay and a great story about
Dan Quinn here on the on the anniversary of nine
to eleven, and uh, gonna bring that back for you
right now. As normally, welcome Jay in the studio, ask
him how he's doing. Jay's usually doing great. How's it going, Jay?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Good man? How are we doing? Gain?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'll tell you, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, I know we're only you know, one week in,
one game in, but wow, this Packer's defense, this Packers
team looks really impressive.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, it really does. You know what, man, They had
a lot of strigger actually coming in and then when
they did the micro Parsons stray of the look, hey
we're going for it, and one move like that could
totally energize a team. And you know, it's interesting because
they're you know, I hear the different coordinator actually talked
ironically a week ago, he talked to Dan Quinn, they
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tell me what I need to about Michael Parsons because
obviously dan Quinn was the you know, Jeff Affles new coordinator,
but dan Quinn was coordinator in Dallas, and Dale was like, hey,
they always challenge him, and you could do all these
things with them. You don't just play him here. You know,
one spot or two spots. You can do so many
different things with them as long as you challenge him.
And happened. He's like, Oh my goodness, I'm gonna put
(20:11):
him everywhere. If there's whatever week link I'm gonna find,
I'm gonna play him there. And it was perfect for them.
I will tell you this. Two gangs. Now, I went
to Green Bay two weeks ago and their general manager
Brian Duda just came out to me and said, and
we're just talking. He says he Dallas isn't really trading
Mike out. I'm like, hey, dude, Dallas is trading Michael
(20:33):
like they're trading him. He's like, come on, I'm like
they're trading them. Between him and Jerry, there was something
there with him and Jared. And I told every team
that camp there's something there with him and Jerry, and
Jerry isn't a guy really like Jerry'll calls chaos and
then you kind of have makeup sex, you know, and
he doesn't really have stuff that goes on with players
(20:54):
where you can't come back from it. And there was
something there that was the deal. And I told Judy,
I'm like, no, I don't I don't see him come
back from it. I don't see them doing a long
term deal after this. And man, if you know, I said,
I know you guys are in on it, but if
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you really want to do it, I said, the Cowboys
are expecting the phones to light up in the dead week,
which used to be the fourth preseason game. If you
guys love them, jump in and jump in early. They're
expecting to train him for doing the AFC team and
no AFC team really nobody was showing interest. So man,
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but and then Goody said, what do you think it'll take?
I said, I mean, I think I know they're asking
for at least two ones and if they like d
tackles Kenny Clarkin, I said, man, if if Michael works out,
then your first round picks those two ones, they're you know,
twenty eight to thirty two. So what do you care?
(21:56):
He said, no, I agree, and it would just be
aggressive and he run, Now, I'm not saying is. I'm
not saying he did it because I said this, but
like they were already aggressive. They were the they were
the ones who showed the most interest from the early, early,
early start to the end. And it was kind of
always them, the leaders of the clubhouse. And I was
(22:16):
I was supposed because I was going around a camp saying,
like asking teams, hey, would you be interested? And it's like, nah,
the money's too much or the picture too much, or
how along those lines. And I'm like, man, you get
a generational talent and you guys don't want to chime
in when like Jamal Adams are traded for for a
(22:36):
couple of ones, you know, Like I was a little
I'm a little confused why other teams weren't jumping over
themselves to get into those.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, well, Jay, look, I get what you're saying, but
I think this is a bombshell. Now thirty teams hate
you because you got this trade Gune like.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What Blazer talking the Packers like that, they wouldn't have
traded for him.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I can't go to any No. I talked to twenty
other teams about the same thing, but the Packers weren't like, no,
we're in But all these other teams like, no, we
don't have that. I was like, hey, you know, every
time I go to camp, a team would say, hey,
do you think they're really training them? And going yeah.
So I really asked me, I said, is uh is
mikee is gonna be there week? When I said, I
(23:19):
think he is? And Howy rose was like come on,
I'm like, Nope, I don't think he is. He said,
I just think of Tim and Jerry. I don't think
it's top of him. He's in no way. So obviously
Howie Roseman had offered the world and they wouldn't do it.
But no, every team was asked me, hey, what do
you think is gonna happen with Mike and Daubs? And
I'm like, I don't think they're working out, man, I
said to trade them, and they're like come on. I'm like,
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I have the same conversation that I have with Brian
Goudakiss with twenty other gms and and head coaches and
owners and so many conversations. And really the Packers were
the ones who were like, yeah, we'll do it. We're in.
There's a couple of other teams who I thought they
were gonna do it. And then once the Cowboys were
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like real, like, no, we really want two ones, they
bailed out. Between the two ones and the price, everybody
kind of bailed out. I'm kind of like I was.
I was. I was very I was shocked that a
lot more teams didn't want to do what the packers did.
I was very shocked. Yeah, I was. I was explored.
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So I have the same conversation with like twenty years eena,
but all of the packers like, yeah, that's yeah, that
seems fair to us. Why wouldn't we do it?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
After watching Micah terrorizes off at some why do you
think dan Quinn should have told, uh, Halfley, I'll talk
to you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But that's kind of good dude. Dan Quinn is such
a good dude with's like, you know, anybody needs his help.
Dan Quinn is such a good guy. Where I don't
you know, today's not eleven? When not eleven happened? Dan Quinn,
a lot of people don't know this almost left the
NFL to join the Marines. He legitimately almost left the
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NFL to go join the Marines to go fight for
a country. Here was a serious conversation with him and
his wife, and he has always been. In fact, this
week he showed his team and every year he does this.
I'm not eleven, Hey, I want to He showed them
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like what happened not eleven So a lot of you
guys weren't even born yet. That's what happened. That's why
it's important that you should know about this day. Dan
Quinn is the most selfless coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
He's on Twitter at Jay Glazer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That is at Jay Glazier again NFL on Fox check
him out. Baller's on HBO, founder of MVP and Unbreakable
Performance Mental Health Warrior.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Appreciate your time after the game tonight. And still I
don't think it's gonna be different when you go to
camps next year and go, oh, there's Glazier.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The guy that got Mike out the Packers. Okay, and
it's gonna happen for you, Bud.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I didn't get him to the Packers. They got him.
But I have the same conversation everywhere. I just couldn't believe,
like nobody else is in Oh, don't make it like
I trade him.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Don't keep in that bay here, Jay, I got him.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There goes Jay unbelievable appearance by him. You're only gonna
get him with us after the Thursday night game every week.
He's not at any other show. You're only gonna get
Jay Glazer with us after Thursday night football, with us
only place.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I do question how many times he's gotten someone holding
up a piece of paper where our pictures going, Why
do you why do you talk to the You know,
these guys that get me a troubles problems all the time.
But I mean all that stuff, like those relationships, all
the years that Jay's put in the road trips. We've
talked about Glazer Palooza at the end of the year,
but that's what his training camp is, and all of
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those things he's forged through the years to where we
get the stories like you have with dan Quinn that
you're not finding anywhere else. And that's we're blessed to
have that, that relationship you and I have had with
Jay going back many years.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, the dan Quinn is amazing, right and nine to eleven,
of course a day will never forget you see, never
forget trend And yeah, it's it's weird that we're so
far you know, when he was telling me about how
dan Quinn shows this to players and you think about
there's people that were too young now that don't remember it, right.
I mean, if if you this is something you had
to be born, if you're remembering nine to eleven, like
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you've had to be at least born in nineteen ninety, right,
Like I mean maybe when you're eleven, you're like, you're
ten or eleven, remember they like wow, so wait, so
like we're twenty four years away. You know, they're twenty
you know, from from nine to eleven, And it's just
it baffles me because it still feels like it's yesterday
because it changed the world forever. It changed our world,
and yeah, it's like wow. If you're you think, oh okay,
(27:43):
people who are kids who were ten twelve years old obviously,
but it's like, no, this is like if you're if
you were born after nineteen ninety now, I mean you're
you're you you're in your thirties, right, you're in your
mid thirties, and it's like, oh yeah, I kind of
remember nine to eleven a little bit. I remember coming
home from school. I remember hearing what my parents would say,
and everybody was watching TV and we were sad. But
that's the people that old that don't remember nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
No, I remember that day and the fallout, like this morning,
woke up and it was it was a very quiet,
long sit with a cup of coffee, just thinking about
the week that the three or four weeks that we
had at the job I was at thereafter, and obviously
all the all the fallout that we still feel to
this day twenty four years later.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Now the other part of it with Jay, which again
incredibly interesting, how twenty teams were like, yeah, we don't
know Mike, and Jay's like, I'm telling you, I'm telling you,
and like nobody believes it right that Jerry would eventually
that's the thing, like to see the market for Micah
Parsons and it turns out to be the Packers a
couple of first round picks and a defensive tackle, right
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like I would almost guarantee at this point the majority
of the teams that said we're not in were ones
that just didn't think they were actually going to pull
the trigger. And that's probably the Packers are going, oh man,
we're keeping our fingers crossed because we're getting the finish
line with his trade from Micah Parsons. And yes, we
just got to hope that he doesn't talk to anybody else.
Other teams don't call him, because you would think that
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other teams would say, oh, hey, wait a minute, we'll
give you first round picks that are better than the
first round picture you get from Green Bay. You want
to send them to the AFC. You want to send
him to a bottom feedt of team Jets. You want
to send them to a team that's terrible Browns. You
want to send him somewhere. Hey, you want to really
teach them a lesson for negotiating with you. This is
where you go. And the fact that didn't happen, that's
on Jerry Jones because this is because honestly, Jerry Jones
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has to see again.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Why I think.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Business wise he's lost his fastball is that, Okay, you
have a guy, you have a talent that everybody would want.
You got to make sure they all know this guy's available.
It's the fantasy equivalent of sending a note out to
the league, putting people on the trading block. Oh hey, okay,
well they really want to trade this guy. Okay, let's
see what we can do. Like I don't think Jerry
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Jones did and Cowoys did a good enough job convincing
people we will make this trade. We will make this trade,
call me or whether it's more they had to do
more outreach, or they had to talk to teams more,
whatever they needed to do to have teams take it
more seriously. It should have been a huge benning war
from Michael Park, huge Benning war from Michael Park.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Always business never personal.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And this is where on both sides of this, as
we get further away from it, it got personal to
where that was never repaired. And for Jerry Jones, it
got in the way of the business acumen of I
just need this off my desk, whereas most teams.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Did you take this off my desk plase but like.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
There was nothing to force you to Joe, but there
was nothing to force you to make that move right away,
whether you want to call his bluff of whether he's
going to show up for week one or not, or
you trade him in season when teams are truly.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Desperate and trying to figure out where they are. You
didn't have to make this trade that fast. So the
fact that he did it there it was a I
just don't want to think about this, I don't want
to deal with this anymore, and all right, they gave
us the best offer, just make it happen, Whereas you
had a number of other teams going, well, we're a
week and a half out from training, what does this
mean if we have to give up not only draft
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picks but some component parts of our defense. Does it
really submarine what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And do we want to pay this guy one hundred
and eighty eight million dollars?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like, that's the thing I give Guda Kunst and at
Policy who takes over for Mark Murphy who retired by
the you know, the age restriction that they had. It
was a mandatory retirement. Hey, ed one hundred eighty eight Yeah, go,
I don't know that this happens with Mark Murphy. I
think it's the perfect convergence of circumstances, both for Jerry
(31:31):
getting in his fields and the Packers having new leadership.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Exit out about a Fresco exit, swelling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon time not
to find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports with someone who's been called the Micah Parsons of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
That's right, take her as down, can I say that because.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
When she doesn't like what's going on, she will land
a table and look really disinterested.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
It's Monty Bell, lay on a table if I'm uninterested,
that is correct, that is and just like I'll tell
you the day is going dandy when you know I
don't mean it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh yeah, no, that's that's what that's what's word. When
she's having a bed how's your day and she says it's.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Going dandy, it's dandy, and the smile gets wider and
then and then.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
The tears start coming down as I turn around. Yeah,
that's one of those days, right, But it's not today, guys.
We're not We're not that.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
We are not laying on the table like Michael Parsons,
I am waiting for this damn baseball game to end
in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's never going you go over it.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
They also went into extra innings yesterday.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's baseball. What's the problem.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
But I I got a job to do.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
I gotta leave, you know, do updates with updated scores
and what am I.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Gonna see here all night? I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know who else is just as mad Sports Center
Sports Center. They're sitting around waiting to start their show
until this game ends. No one goes home until the
last game of the night is over. I believe I
worked on those shows. Yeah, this is a big enough game.
Then you know what, it doesn't matter if they're close
to first. They were a game out of.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
In the northwest part of the United States. Nobody cares, nobody.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I wish you could never.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Go to Seattle again. Frostburg for rail. You can't go.
You're good to go.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
In the bottom of the eleventh inning, the Angels decided
to walk Cal Rawley and Julio Rodriguez to load the
bases so that their lefty pitcher could face Josh Naylor.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
And then Josh Naylor doesn't put the ball in play,
just strikes out. So here we are, twelfth inning. Bottom
of the twelfth inning.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
A tie game between the Angels and the Mariners, tied
at six apiece. But also, Mike Trout did hit home
run number three hundred and ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Almost they hurt Tomorrow Bill stalking on Mike Trout, say,
former Angels and Dodgers slugger Albert Pools.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Maybe their new manager crazy?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Yes, I saw that, what right, righter manager player?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Manager?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Aside from that game.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
In baseball, the Yankees outscored the Tigers nine to three
and Judge two homers, bringing his total to forty six
on the season. He drove in his one hundredth run
and tied Joe DiMaggio on the career home run lists
for the Yankees with number three hundred and sixty one.
New York is still three games back of the Blue Jays.
In the Al East. Phillies were down four runs came
back to defeat the Mets sixty four hand in New
York their six straight loss. San Francisco and Cincinnati are
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now one and a half games back of the Mets
for the final walkart spot in the National League. In
the NFL, the Packers defeated the Commanders twenty eight to
seventeen behind Jordan Love, who completed nineteen of thirty one
passes for two hundred and ninety two yards and two touchdowns.
Tucker Kraft also had six catches for one hundred and
twenty four yards and one of those touchdowns that Love threw,
but Green Bay did loser. Wide receiver Jayden reed to
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a broken collarbone early in the lead. He's heded to
injured reserve but they do expect him back. This season,
Washington lost their running back Austin Eckler. He went down
on an on contact injury in the second half was
carted to the locker room. It is believe he suffered
a torn achilles. Commander's quarterback Jaden Daniels was twenty four
to forty two for two hundred yards and two touchdowns
in the loss.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Here is Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed really well.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Because they won the game and we just didn't make plays.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Starts with meetings, starts with everybody in front, starts with
the whole.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Offensive Skooll group. So it's not putting point a finger
at anybody. Collectively, we're all to blame and we'll get
back to work.
Speaker 12 (35:19):
Also, the Dolphins had the players held a player's only
meeting after their Week one loss to the coltsanbacker Jordan Brooks,
who was one of Miami's six captains this season, spoke
to the Miami Herald and he just said that the
message was to stay locked in after a loss like
that and make sure that they hadn't lost the belief.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
That that was what the meeting was about.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I think the reading was, Hey, we're getting pizza. If
you're in a meeting, show up. And then they all
sang along and danced to share.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I know what they're gonna say in next week's meeting.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
What are they gonna say?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh no, we suck again.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
And there's Mike McDaniel back.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
To you guys wants Bolanos is gonna get to go home?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The game winning sacrifice. If I fly for the Seattle Mariners,
they win it in twelve, seven to six pop, all
kinds of stuff flying onto the field, MANSI you can
go home.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I think this means that they're now in the lead
over the Astros for their division.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Right they were tied.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Big deal for.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Seattle Sports Center starts in thirty once again, go home.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
The Astros cheats so blank them coming up next one
of the biggest stories of the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I really don't think is that big a deal And
I don't think I'm alone with that. That's next Jason
and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
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Speaker 3 (00:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We got Jay Glazer coming up in about twenty minutes,
some great stuff from him. On the Thursday night game,
Packers win it over the Commanders twenty seven eighteen, a
game that wasn't really that close if you didn't get
to see it. It was a Packers domination from the beginning.
We talked about it last night. Why I picked the
Packers tonight. These are the games you get Micah Parsons
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for to cause havoc in the backfield and make Jade
and Daniels uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Tonna.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
That's exactly what tonight was. Even on plays he didn't
get to the quarterback. The Commander's offense is out of sync.
There's plays he's triple teamed on and he's still forcing
the play. A little bit earlier, the Commanders never looked
like they were in sync. The Packers had to lead
the entire game twenty seven to eighteen, but the real
score of the game feels like it should have been like, hey,
you know, forty five eighteen, Like that's the kind of
(01:25):
blowout that they had.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Yeah, I'm taking credit for the beatdown that I called
for last night minus three, minus three and a half.
However you got in. Daniel still finishes with an okay
stat line, you know, for fantasy purposes when it's all
said and done. But one thing that flows out of
this game. Remember we were tracking odds now at plus
seven hundred equal to the Eagles for the best.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
To the NFC.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
This is two games in the Packs against two really
good offenses, different styles, and the Packers defense, thanks to
Michael Parsons, has absolutely dominated. And I'll tell you this
to give you a little fun, little hot take here.
It's it's usually impossible, absolutely impossible for a position other
than a quarterback to win MVP. However, it's also about
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grabbing the storyline and being the story throughout the year,
and the Micah Parsons trade was such a big deal
coming in, He's got the storyline. Look how good the
Packers defense has been the first two weeks, and if
this is a Packers team that starts rolling through it
and look we said it, maybe they really are the
Super Bowl favorites. We joked around about it after they
got Michah Parsons, But maybe he is really that making
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them those big favorites. If the Packers defense plays like this,
guess who's gonna be there at the end for MVP
Micah Parsons. Now, it's almost impossible to beat out a quarterback,
especially when you know somebody, whether it's Josh Allen or
Joe Burrow, somebody's gonna throw forty touchdowns and be oh,
it's the most important position. But I'll tell you what,
Parsons has put himself in the position to be. Hey,
a heavy part of that conversation over the course of
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the season.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yeah, I mean before it's all said and done. Don't
forget his quarterback was no slouch today either. Who's all
of a sudden up to uh number three in the
betting market? There Alan Jackson, see what I did there
down the Chattahoochee.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
And then you got Jordan Love at plus seven hundred.
I had a Patrick Mahomes and Joe Burrow who are
now both eleven to one. Justin Herbert also surgery up
to twelve to one in this process. But yeah, domination performance,
and you got to stop calling him a linebacker, though.
I gotta correct you because he wants, you know, the
next deal. He's going the next five years. Okay, he's
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got to be an edge. That's because that's where you're
gonna get paid. You're not get paid as a linebacker.
He will worry about that in a few in four years,
he'll worry about that.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
But it's a long lead, man, you gotta get that.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yeah, it's all building blocks, right if you start getting
the narrative out there, Look what he does and in
chaos he creates from the linebackers condition like, no, don't
call me that, don't.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Call me a tight end, but you play tight end? Yeah,
but it doesn't matter. I don't want to go. But
how many how many times do we see that?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
No, I want to be reclassified. I run out, you know,
mostly in pass and pass routes. So I want to
be a wide receiver. I want to be considered there.
It's like, nah, you're a tight end, get over it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So yeah, that look, that's really if you're talking about
anybody that can grab the headlines for MVP, it's Micah
Parsons outside of the quarterback. Now, unfortunately, things aren't all sunshine,
lollipops and rainbows for the Green Bay Packers. As you
know what we mentioned a few we mentioned last hour
on the show, how good Jordan Love is right and
this could be his bounce back year, turning into a
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quarterback that we thought he was going to be the
beginning of last year. And that's say a top seven
overall quarterback in the game. Still had a good year
last year, was hurt a little bit, was hurt the
beginning of the seasons. You don't know how much that
went through. Didn't quite capitalize on the year he had
in twenty twenty three, but it was very similar. But
still okay, yeah, we're kind of counting them out a
little bit. We're not expecting as much from Jordan Love,
but with this team he is on so far first
(04:49):
two weeks quarterback rating one hundred and thirteen one hundred
and twenty four touchdowns, no picks. He is finding a
way to make it work with whoever has the best
at receiver. You know, this week it was Tyler Craft
who said, I never even had one hundred yard game
in college, and you know here he is his first
time in the NFL. He was wide open so many
(05:10):
times tonight Jordan Love was able to find him. This
is the year that Jordan Love springboards and gets back
to being Hey, he's a top seven quarterback in the game, right,
that's the talent level Jordan Love hasn't clearly he's on
that start tonight, but he's going to have to do
without one of his best receivers for quite a while,
as Jaden Reid left the game earlier tonight shoulder injury
(05:30):
did not return. It is a broken collar bone for
Jaden Reid and he is going to be out, according
to the Packers, quite a while now. The flip side
of the sunny side of it is that you have
four or five receivers who are all of the same
talent level that are all pretty good. You're expecting, okay,
Matthew Golden to maybe take a step up and look
Golden would have had a touchdown tonight if Jordan Love
(05:52):
didn't severely underthrow him on fourth down. And really that
play was kind of weird from the start where the
Packers wanted to hurry up and run a fourth down play,
the officials wouldn't let him snap the ball and Lafleur
was screaming on the sideline. So then Love gets back
into the shotgun calls a play, So it was a
little weird to see it, but still he completely underthrows Golden.
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Would have been a touchdown because he had his defender
beat by three to five yards. So yes, you expect
Golden to step up. Eventually, Watson will be there. You
have Dobbs. Now clearly you can still throw to Dontavian
Wicks and look to night craft is a big weapon too, But.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Mean, look, Wick's had two catches right off the jump,
right first possessions, Like, all right, let's start spreading this
thing out.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And if you want to think that, okay, you can
keep this going. But boy, of all the receivers, Reid
is probably the most talented. He's the one guy that
gets out of all these receivers the Packers have had,
and anybody plays fantasy football knows every single disappointing wide
receiver the Packers have that I can't play him because
I can't trust him. Of all the guys they can
(06:52):
least afford to miss, he's the one. He's the one
that clearly is the most talented. He's gonna catch sixty
some odd passes a year, which is probably gonna lead
the team. You have a lot of guys around there,
but he looks to be the one guy to separate
himself the most. It's him, and now you're not going
to have him for probably at least the next six
to eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I would assume fourteen yards per catch to his two
years and change. So moving the ball, and that was
the one thing I think that was encouraging. We talked
about Josh Jacobs and celebrating him. You had the over
on his eighty rushing yards and it took a little
bit of doing, but he finally got there and extended
that scoring streak ten straight games. So you have balance
(07:33):
and you're gonna be able to work off play action. Eventually,
the timing with Golden who they drafted in the first round,
they'll get that down because really both attempts to Golden
should have been big plays, right, one should have been
a touchdown, the other should have been a big game
and love and he just didn't connect. So opportunity there.
But losing a guy that has shown as Reid did,
(07:55):
he became the go to for a good chunk of
last season. It's a big loss, but again, operating from
the balance that you have on the offensive side and
now taking what was already a top ten defense and
making it that much more potent with Micah Parsons, you
can weather the storm. You look at their schedule these
next couple of weeks while they get read healthy. You've
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got road games at Cleveland. We'll see what that defense
was or if it's just the usual a A Bengals
suck in September and then you're on the road at
Dallas for Week four. I had a Week five.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
By and then Week six Cowboys are still going to
try to get that game canceled. Hey, can we just
move that to later in the year, or you know,
we really don't want to.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We really don't want to do Yeah, no, I mean, look,
you want to get it out of the way, rip
the band aid off and just be done with it.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
I don't really want that.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
But think about that the game of inches that it
is like if ceedee Lamb catches that ball in Week
one and the Cowboys win, Jerry gets to be chesty.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Hey, it worked out for us. Look what we did.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And I told you Dak even when he you know,
missed all those games and made me look bad a
year ago. I mean, he's ready, and I got him,
and I got I got the CD. But you know
you're looking at that game. Uh is a big one
because that's a I think that's a Sunday night football
one age.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, they're going to cancel all the other games to
show that one, and then the following everybody else gets
a buye.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We just got the.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Tail tailgate all day and then we'll get to it,
and then you've got week six, the aforementioned Bengals.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
Uh, come to lambeau Field.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
By that point all it should be on all cylinders
and you'll have covered up whatever issue in the passing
game you got, you got enough weapons. And if Tucker
Craft's going to be this big a weapon as a
as a blocker and then sliding out into pass, uh,
that's a reception target targets and and and totals with
that much space, you're in trouble.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Now the flip side of tonight, Okay, so that's a
lot on the Packers, right, clear, Look they may be
the best team in football, right that. That's clearly what
Michael Parsons has done.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
M v P.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
The commander side of it. They come into this year,
they pay Terry McLaurin. Okay, NFC Championship game last year.
We're getting back there, right, We're young, we are ascending.
We we got an incredible quarterback in Jade and Daniels
who in one year has become one of the top
five quarterbacks in the game.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
You really love him. But tonight they lose Austin.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Eckler likely for the season, right, torn achilles, which is
what they're saying. It's a torn achilles. Likely, it's a
torn achilles and Austin Eckler's done for the year. Either
that or you're just doctor Smith. Bill Crossky Merritt is
a great story, Bill, right, He's a great story. They
call him Bill. It's Chacorry, but they call him Bill
because of his his They call him that from when
he was a kid, because his his resemblance. One of
(10:42):
the characters from the old the animated Cosby Show from
all the way back in the seventh Bill. Yeah, little Bill,
it's a great story. But clearly the Commanders they're in.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
A win now mode.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
With Jade and Daniels on a rookie contract you can't
give away this year. They absolutely need to trade for
running back. They've been really I get that, Hey, we
like guys in camp and and and we think things
are going so we can make that big trade at
the running back position. And but this is what you're
going into the season with. How bad are things with
Brian Robbinson.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's what I want. I want that, Yeah, Kurt hold
back for me.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I mean that that almost seems like a bit of
a bit of malpractice, where, Okay, you go in with
with Austin Eckler, who's thirty, so you can't give him
a big, a big work workload. You think that crosskey
merrit is gonna be good. But okay, you know you
need to you need as many weapons as you can,
and you're going in saying, hey, we're gonna take a
chance with our running back room. And clearly after tonight
(11:42):
you have seen that, Okay, they need to run the football.
You can't have nineteen carries or fifty one yards. You
can't have games like that, right and didn't really run
the ball that great. The Giants are absolutely terrible. So
this is a team that I can tell right now
they should be making phone calls. Who are we going
to get to play running back? How long until we
call the Jets for Hall? Is it after they lose
to the Bills this week and they're zero and two?
(12:03):
When do we call the Jets for Breese Hall? Because
you know that's gonna happen. You know, the Jets are
hey with him. They have other young running backs they like.
Breese Hall is gonna be a very popular name we
get closer and closer to the trade deadline. He had
a huge week one, right they're gonna you can get
you can get a lot for him right now. There's
also other guys as teams fall in and out of
of the of the races that we have to go
get somebody, but you gotta go get somebody big. But
(12:25):
Breese Hall is gonna be at the top of everybody's list.
Because the Jets are starting over, they're a run heavy team.
They have a couple of running backs. They already really
like Braylan Allen is terrific, uh you know, giving him
the ball on fourth down and big plays. So he's
gonna be the name at the top of that list.
But yeah, if you, if you are the commanders, you
absolutely have to go out there and get somebody. And
(12:45):
I don't know if it's a case of where somebody
gets unseated or they wind up not being a part
of the the uh the offense like they were. But
you can't wait very long. You can't just say, well,
the deadline will get somebody.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
They're pretty good.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Uh no, you really might not be able to run
the football a lot. You have to sit here and say, hey,
in a month, what is our running back room going
to look like? What is the right we're gonna look
like at the beginning of October, because we got to
have somebody to be able to come in here that
we can get them the playbook that they can by
the time the middle of the season is here, then
they're running on all cylinders, not at the deadline. By
(13:17):
the hey, by December, we're looking pretty good. No, no, no,
you got to do it quicker than that. The NFC
East is too, is the NFC itself is too competitive,
and you can see that's a crying need you have
been able to run.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But we talked about the Giants right that you expected
that their defense would be solid. Then it's the wait
and see until we're at Jackson, Dart, Malik, Neighbors and
company getting it done. But that wasn't a very clean game.
Right from an operations standpoint, there was a lot to
be desired. Now you bring in larrymy Tunsel to help
what was an okay but not great offensive line, and
(13:49):
then he just got worked today. He looked like he
was maybe adding an extra year or two on his
oh dometer this offseason. As we spin forward to twelve
twenty five. The other guy that I would be curious
to look at was a guy that was injured a
bit in the preseason to the point where the aforementioned
Brian Robinson was potentially mentioned to be down there to
(14:11):
work while he got himself back into shape. And that's
Devon h Chan down there in Miami. Because we saw
that no show effort that they put up in week one.
Now they had their team meetings, so maybe they come
out fired in week two. But how quickly do they
turn the page and just start divesting all their component
parts in coluding their coach. That can happen pretty fast.
(14:32):
So h Chan the other name to watch in the
AFC East as we change up all the component parts,
it's the bills and everybody.
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Speaker 2 (14:49):
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No.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
I think Tyer's in a very reflective mood tonight. Well
it's now deep Thoughts tweak two. If you're a National
Football League season, We've had a fantastic show and we've
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Speaker 1 (17:47):
Tyer'son one of those You know, I'm just thinking about
life right now, just sull He was thinking about that
camping trip that you took away from him by complaiming
that his car got burned down.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
And the fact that we're talking over on Rigos here
is just straight up to respectful. This district will not
stand man, It won't disaggression.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Will not.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Also, dude, exit out about a fresca exit Swallowen dome.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
You ever heard of Vietnam, Larry, you heard of the Vietnam?
There are rules here.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Mark zero, mark zero, Come on, no, give me an eight,
mark zero.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Lead game, smoky.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
He puts the gun mark zero.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Okay, okay, okay, and he leans over and takes his
hand and mixt the zero. The thing uh so big
night tonight in the NFL. Micah Parsons is a huge
difference maker for the Packers night again. If anybody can
win MVP in the NFL, that's not a quarterback.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
A MICHAEH.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Parsons season. The storyline early on in the season, the
Packers are this good. The defense is that good.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Get in now one hundred and fifty to one.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I'll tell you man, it was. He's been something so
far for the Packer.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Packers.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Now earlier you had a chance talked to Jay Glazer
and he's had a great story about how Michah Parsons
ended up in Green Bay and a great story about
Dan Quinn here on the on the anniversary of nine
to eleven, and uh, gonna bring that back for you
right now. As normally, welcome Jay in the studio, ask
him how he's doing. Jay's usually doing great. How's it going, Jay?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Good man? How are we doing? Gain?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I'll tell you, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
I mean, I know we're only you know, one week in,
one game in, but wow, this Packer's defense, this Packers
team looks really impressive.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Yeah, it really does. You know what, man, They had
a lot of strigger actually coming in and then when
they did the micro Parsons stray of the look, hey
we're going for it, and one move like that could
totally energize a team. And you know, it's interesting because
they're you know, I hear the different coordinator actually talked
ironically a week ago, he talked to Dan Quinn, they
(19:51):
tell me what I need to about Michael Parsons because
obviously dan Quinn was the you know, Jeff Affles new coordinator,
but dan Quinn was coordinator in Dallas, and Dale was like, hey,
they always challenge him, and you could do all these
things with them. You don't just play him here. You know,
one spot or two spots. You can do so many
different things with them as long as you challenge him.
And happened. He's like, Oh my goodness, I'm gonna put
(20:11):
him everywhere. If there's whatever week link I'm gonna find,
I'm gonna play him there. And it was perfect for them.
I will tell you this. Two gangs. Now, I went
to Green Bay two weeks ago and their general manager
Brian Duda just came out to me and said, and
we're just talking. He says he Dallas isn't really trading
Mike out. I'm like, hey, dude, Dallas is trading Michael
(20:33):
like they're trading him. He's like, come on, I'm like
they're trading them. Between him and Jerry, there was something
there with him and Jared. And I told every team
that camp there's something there with him and Jerry, and
Jerry isn't a guy really like Jerry'll calls chaos and
then you kind of have makeup sex, you know, and
he doesn't really have stuff that goes on with players
(20:54):
where you can't come back from it. And there was
something there that was the deal. And I told Judy,
I'm like, no, I don't I don't see him come
back from it. I don't see them doing a long
term deal after this. And man, if you know, I said,
I know you guys are in on it, but if
(21:14):
you really want to do it, I said, the Cowboys
are expecting the phones to light up in the dead week,
which used to be the fourth preseason game. If you
guys love them, jump in and jump in early. They're
expecting to train him for doing the AFC team and
no AFC team really nobody was showing interest. So man,
(21:35):
but and then Goody said, what do you think it'll take?
I said, I mean, I think I know they're asking
for at least two ones and if they like d
tackles Kenny Clarkin, I said, man, if if Michael works out,
then your first round picks those two ones, they're you know,
twenty eight to thirty two. So what do you care?
(21:56):
He said, no, I agree, and it would just be
aggressive and he run, Now, I'm not saying is. I'm
not saying he did it because I said this, but
like they were already aggressive. They were the they were
the ones who showed the most interest from the early, early,
early start to the end. And it was kind of
always them, the leaders of the clubhouse. And I was
(22:16):
I was supposed because I was going around a camp saying,
like asking teams, hey, would you be interested? And it's like, nah,
the money's too much or the picture too much, or
how along those lines. And I'm like, man, you get
a generational talent and you guys don't want to chime
in when like Jamal Adams are traded for for a
(22:36):
couple of ones, you know, Like I was a little
I'm a little confused why other teams weren't jumping over
themselves to get into those.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, well, Jay, look, I get what you're saying, but
I think this is a bombshell. Now thirty teams hate
you because you got this trade Gune like.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
What Blazer talking the Packers like that, they wouldn't have
traded for him.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
I can't go to any No. I talked to twenty
other teams about the same thing, but the Packers weren't like, no,
we're in But all these other teams like, no, we
don't have that. I was like, hey, you know, every
time I go to camp, a team would say, hey,
do you think they're really training them? And going yeah.
So I really asked me, I said, is uh is
mikee is gonna be there week? When I said, I
(23:19):
think he is? And Howy rose was like come on,
I'm like, Nope, I don't think he is. He said,
I just think of Tim and Jerry. I don't think
it's top of him. He's in no way. So obviously
Howie Roseman had offered the world and they wouldn't do it.
But no, every team was asked me, hey, what do
you think is gonna happen with Mike and Daubs? And
I'm like, I don't think they're working out, man, I
said to trade them, and they're like come on. I'm like,
(23:41):
I have the same conversation that I have with Brian
Goudakiss with twenty other gms and and head coaches and
owners and so many conversations. And really the Packers were
the ones who were like, yeah, we'll do it. We're in.
There's a couple of other teams who I thought they
were gonna do it. And then once the Cowboys were
(24:01):
like real, like, no, we really want two ones, they
bailed out. Between the two ones and the price, everybody
kind of bailed out. I'm kind of like I was.
I was. I was very I was shocked that a
lot more teams didn't want to do what the packers did.
I was very shocked. Yeah, I was. I was explored.
(24:23):
So I have the same conversation with like twenty years eena,
but all of the packers like, yeah, that's yeah, that
seems fair to us. Why wouldn't we do it?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
After watching Micah terrorizes off at some why do you
think dan Quinn should have told, uh, Halfley, I'll talk
to you on Friday.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
But that's kind of good dude. Dan Quinn is such
a good dude with's like, you know, anybody needs his help.
Dan Quinn is such a good guy. Where I don't
you know, today's not eleven? When not eleven happened? Dan Quinn,
a lot of people don't know this almost left the
NFL to join the Marines. He legitimately almost left the
(25:04):
NFL to go join the Marines to go fight for
a country. Here was a serious conversation with him and
his wife, and he has always been. In fact, this
week he showed his team and every year he does this.
I'm not eleven, Hey, I want to He showed them
(25:24):
like what happened not eleven So a lot of you
guys weren't even born yet. That's what happened. That's why
it's important that you should know about this day. Dan
Quinn is the most selfless coach in this league.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
He's on Twitter at Jay Glazer.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That is at Jay Glazier again NFL on Fox check
him out. Baller's on HBO, founder of MVP and Unbreakable
Performance Mental Health Warrior.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Appreciate your time after the game tonight. And still I
don't think it's gonna be different when you go to
camps next year and go, oh, there's Glazier.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
The guy that got Mike out the Packers. Okay, and
it's gonna happen for you, Bud.
Speaker 4 (25:58):
I didn't get him to the Packers. They got him.
But I have the same conversation everywhere. I just couldn't believe,
like nobody else is in Oh, don't make it like
I trade him.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
Don't keep in that bay here, Jay, I got him.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
There goes Jay unbelievable appearance by him. You're only gonna
get him with us after the Thursday night game every week.
He's not at any other show. You're only gonna get
Jay Glazer with us after Thursday night football, with us
only place.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
I do question how many times he's gotten someone holding
up a piece of paper where our pictures going, Why
do you why do you talk to the You know,
these guys that get me a troubles problems all the time.
But I mean all that stuff, like those relationships, all
the years that Jay's put in the road trips. We've
talked about Glazer Palooza at the end of the year,
but that's what his training camp is, and all of
(26:49):
those things he's forged through the years to where we
get the stories like you have with dan Quinn that
you're not finding anywhere else. And that's we're blessed to
have that, that relationship you and I have had with
Jay going back many years.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, the dan Quinn is amazing, right and nine to eleven,
of course a day will never forget you see, never
forget trend And yeah, it's it's weird that we're so
far you know, when he was telling me about how
dan Quinn shows this to players and you think about
there's people that were too young now that don't remember it, right.
I mean, if if you this is something you had
to be born, if you're remembering nine to eleven, like
(27:21):
you've had to be at least born in nineteen ninety, right,
Like I mean maybe when you're eleven, you're like, you're
ten or eleven, remember they like wow, so wait, so
like we're twenty four years away. You know, they're twenty
you know, from from nine to eleven, And it's just
it baffles me because it still feels like it's yesterday
because it changed the world forever. It changed our world,
and yeah, it's like wow. If you're you think, oh okay,
(27:43):
people who are kids who were ten twelve years old obviously,
but it's like, no, this is like if you're if
you were born after nineteen ninety now, I mean you're
you're you you're in your thirties, right, you're in your
mid thirties, and it's like, oh yeah, I kind of
remember nine to eleven a little bit. I remember coming
home from school. I remember hearing what my parents would say,
and everybody was watching TV and we were sad. But
that's the people that old that don't remember nine to eleven.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
No, I remember that day and the fallout, like this morning,
woke up and it was it was a very quiet,
long sit with a cup of coffee, just thinking about
the week that the three or four weeks that we
had at the job I was at thereafter, and obviously
all the all the fallout that we still feel to
this day twenty four years later.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Now the other part of it with Jay, which again
incredibly interesting, how twenty teams were like, yeah, we don't
know Mike, and Jay's like, I'm telling you, I'm telling you,
and like nobody believes it right that Jerry would eventually
that's the thing, like to see the market for Micah
Parsons and it turns out to be the Packers a
couple of first round picks and a defensive tackle, right
(28:48):
like I would almost guarantee at this point the majority
of the teams that said we're not in were ones
that just didn't think they were actually going to pull
the trigger. And that's probably the Packers are going, oh man,
we're keeping our fingers crossed because we're getting the finish
line with his trade from Micah Parsons. And yes, we
just got to hope that he doesn't talk to anybody else.
Other teams don't call him, because you would think that
(29:09):
other teams would say, oh, hey, wait a minute, we'll
give you first round picks that are better than the
first round picture you get from Green Bay. You want
to send them to the AFC. You want to send
him to a bottom feedt of team Jets. You want
to send them to a team that's terrible Browns. You
want to send him somewhere. Hey, you want to really
teach them a lesson for negotiating with you. This is
where you go. And the fact that didn't happen, that's
on Jerry Jones because this is because honestly, Jerry Jones
(29:33):
has to see again.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Why I think.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Business wise he's lost his fastball is that, Okay, you
have a guy, you have a talent that everybody would want.
You got to make sure they all know this guy's available.
It's the fantasy equivalent of sending a note out to
the league, putting people on the trading block. Oh hey, okay,
well they really want to trade this guy. Okay, let's
see what we can do. Like I don't think Jerry
(29:55):
Jones did and Cowoys did a good enough job convincing
people we will make this trade. We will make this trade,
call me or whether it's more they had to do
more outreach, or they had to talk to teams more,
whatever they needed to do to have teams take it
more seriously. It should have been a huge benning war
from Michael Park, huge Benning war from Michael Park.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Always business never personal.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
And this is where on both sides of this, as
we get further away from it, it got personal to
where that was never repaired. And for Jerry Jones, it
got in the way of the business acumen of I
just need this off my desk, whereas most teams.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Did you take this off my desk plase but like.
Speaker 10 (30:29):
There was nothing to force you to Joe, but there
was nothing to force you to make that move right away,
whether you want to call his bluff of whether he's
going to show up for week one or not, or
you trade him in season when teams are truly.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
Desperate and trying to figure out where they are. You
didn't have to make this trade that fast. So the
fact that he did it there it was a I
just don't want to think about this, I don't want
to deal with this anymore, and all right, they gave
us the best offer, just make it happen, Whereas you
had a number of other teams going, well, we're a
week and a half out from training, what does this
mean if we have to give up not only draft
(31:02):
picks but some component parts of our defense. Does it
really submarine what we're doing?
Speaker 2 (31:08):
And do we want to pay this guy one hundred
and eighty eight million dollars?
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Like, that's the thing I give Guda Kunst and at
Policy who takes over for Mark Murphy who retired by
the you know, the age restriction that they had. It
was a mandatory retirement. Hey, ed one hundred eighty eight Yeah, go,
I don't know that this happens with Mark Murphy. I
think it's the perfect convergence of circumstances, both for Jerry
(31:31):
getting in his fields and the Packers having new leadership.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Exit out about a Fresco exit, swelling down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike harmon time not
to find out what's trending in the wide world of
sports with someone who's been called the Micah Parsons of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
That's right, take her as down, can I say that because.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
When she doesn't like what's going on, she will land
a table and look really disinterested.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
It's Monty Bell, lay on a table if I'm uninterested,
that is correct, that is and just like I'll tell
you the day is going dandy when you know I
don't mean it.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
Oh yeah, no, that's that's what that's what's word. When
she's having a bed how's your day and she says it's.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Going dandy, it's dandy, and the smile gets wider and
then and then.
Speaker 9 (32:13):
The tears start coming down as I turn around. Yeah,
that's one of those days, right, But it's not today, guys.
We're not We're not that.
Speaker 5 (32:19):
We are not laying on the table like Michael Parsons,
I am waiting for this damn baseball game to end
in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's never going you go over it.
Speaker 9 (32:27):
They also went into extra innings yesterday.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
It's baseball. What's the problem.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
But I I got a job to do.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
I gotta leave, you know, do updates with updated scores
and what am I.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
Gonna see here all night? I don't do that.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
You know who else is just as mad Sports Center
Sports Center. They're sitting around waiting to start their show
until this game ends. No one goes home until the
last game of the night is over. I believe I
worked on those shows. Yeah, this is a big enough game.
Then you know what, it doesn't matter if they're close
to first. They were a game out of.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
In the northwest part of the United States. Nobody cares, nobody.
Speaker 9 (33:06):
I wish you could never.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Go to Seattle again. Frostburg for rail. You can't go.
You're good to go.
Speaker 11 (33:13):
In the bottom of the eleventh inning, the Angels decided
to walk Cal Rawley and Julio Rodriguez to load the
bases so that their lefty pitcher could face Josh Naylor.
Speaker 9 (33:24):
And then Josh Naylor doesn't put the ball in play,
just strikes out. So here we are, twelfth inning. Bottom
of the twelfth inning.
Speaker 5 (33:31):
A tie game between the Angels and the Mariners, tied
at six apiece. But also, Mike Trout did hit home
run number three hundred and ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Almost they hurt Tomorrow Bill stalking on Mike Trout, say,
former Angels and Dodgers slugger Albert Pools.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Maybe their new manager crazy?
Speaker 9 (33:50):
Yes, I saw that, what right, righter manager player?
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Manager?
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Yeah, bring it back.
Speaker 9 (33:55):
Aside from that game.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
In baseball, the Yankees outscored the Tigers nine to three
and Judge two homers, bringing his total to forty six
on the season. He drove in his one hundredth run
and tied Joe DiMaggio on the career home run lists
for the Yankees with number three hundred and sixty one.
New York is still three games back of the Blue Jays.
In the Al East. Phillies were down four runs came
back to defeat the Mets sixty four hand in New
York their six straight loss. San Francisco and Cincinnati are
(34:19):
now one and a half games back of the Mets
for the final walkart spot in the National League. In
the NFL, the Packers defeated the Commanders twenty eight to
seventeen behind Jordan Love, who completed nineteen of thirty one
passes for two hundred and ninety two yards and two touchdowns.
Tucker Kraft also had six catches for one hundred and
twenty four yards and one of those touchdowns that Love threw,
but Green Bay did loser. Wide receiver Jayden reed to
(34:40):
a broken collarbone early in the lead. He's heded to
injured reserve but they do expect him back. This season,
Washington lost their running back Austin Eckler. He went down
on an on contact injury in the second half was
carted to the locker room. It is believe he suffered
a torn achilles. Commander's quarterback Jaden Daniels was twenty four
to forty two for two hundred yards and two touchdowns
in the loss.
Speaker 9 (35:00):
Here is Jayden Daniels.
Speaker 8 (35:02):
They executed their scheme, whatever it was, they executed really well.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Because they won the game and we just didn't make plays.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Starts with meetings, starts with everybody in front, starts with
the whole.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Offensive Skooll group. So it's not putting point a finger
at anybody. Collectively, we're all to blame and we'll get
back to work.
Speaker 12 (35:19):
Also, the Dolphins had the players held a player's only
meeting after their Week one loss to the coltsanbacker Jordan Brooks,
who was one of Miami's six captains this season, spoke
to the Miami Herald and he just said that the
message was to stay locked in after a loss like
that and make sure that they hadn't lost the belief.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
That that was what the meeting was about.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
It yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I think the reading was, Hey, we're getting pizza. If
you're in a meeting, show up. And then they all
sang along and danced to share.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
I know what they're gonna say in next week's meeting.
Speaker 9 (35:48):
What are they gonna say?
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Oh no, we suck again.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
And there's Mike McDaniel back.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
To you guys wants Bolanos is gonna get to go home?
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Now?
Speaker 1 (35:58):
The game winning sacrifice. If I fly for the Seattle Mariners,
they win it in twelve, seven to six pop, all
kinds of stuff flying onto the field, MANSI you can
go home.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I think this means that they're now in the lead
over the Astros for their division.
Speaker 9 (36:14):
Right they were tied.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Big deal for.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Seattle Sports Center starts in thirty once again, go home.
Speaker 8 (36:20):
The Astros cheats so blank them coming up next one
of the biggest stories of the last forty eight hours.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
I really don't think is that big a deal And
I don't think I'm alone with that. That's next Jason
and Mike Fox.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
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