Hour 4 – Miracle on Ice Memories

In Hour 4 of tonight’s edition of the Jason Smith Show, Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier, the guy's debate about NBA players resting for load management, and the prices of tickets. Plus, the guys remember the 43rd anniversary of the Miracle on Ice, and so much more!

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Sports Radio. Welcome in Fine all hour of the programs
and night Artie Spaniard, the Power Hour, as you like
to call it. But no, no, no, the Power Hours
last time? Oh what is the bonus hour? Bonus? This
is every damn night here. I know, I don't know
how you're jostening. Four hours is just way too much

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because I'm a powerful and attractive man and I just
keep going. Alex has me on the right diet. I'm
not consuming a bunch of sugar here in the final hours,
A little bit of caffeine, a lot of water, and
I'm ready to go. And I'm watching movies about ampires
and highlights. Are watching games? Are you watching anything like?
Instead of the All Star Game? I was watching a

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new series. I can't remember the name of it. It
has Sissy Space in it, and um, what's that guy
that sucks another guy in the face because of the
drums or something. I forget the name of the movie.
You know JK. Simmons is in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he's in it. I mean he was in Lala Land.
He fired and he said you're fight. He was j

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Jonah Jamison and Spider Man. So you don't know what
I'm serious about. No, no, oh, it's a good one. Man.
It's like futuristic and they do space travel nights Sky. Yeah,
that's night Sky had no idea. Irene and Franklin York
have kept secret a chamber that leads to a deserted planet,

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but the arrival of an enigmatic young man up ends
their quiet existence. Yeah, that sounds like something I could watch.
You would like it, I'm telling you should. You should
check it out out. You would like I dig that.
You know what I've been watching Shrinking on Apple TV.
I've not seen that. Jason Siegelt Miller and Harrison Ford.
Oh that's good. It is quite good. And it's one

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they've been releasing once a week. So uh. Therapist uh
lost his wife trying to deal with a teenage daughter
Krista Miller, who you know from the Drew Carey Show
and Scrubs. Uh, and and is the wife of the
show's creator. Uh, she's next door and she's kind of
over the top. And then you have Harrison Ford who's

(02:35):
a therapist but he's going throughimers. Yeah, and also we
Uh my wife makes me watch that show Reacher. Have
you ever seen Reacher? Now? What is wrong with you?
I watched a lot of other things. Tom Cruise played Reacher.
They have this new Reacher. Yeah, there's a TV show now, No,
it's it's it's yeah, it's like a series and it's

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all buff out. My wife just watches the show to
see him take his shirt off. So no, no no, no,
he's Jack Ryan. J from the Office. Is Jack Ryan.
It's not Jack Ryan. I'm not talking about Job talking
about Reacher. Yeah, hey, Tysher was trying to help. No,
don't him. Yeah, don't listen to him. I do like
Jack Ryan Jack Reacher. Yeah no, I don't know that

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you want the surname of Reacher. It's a problem. Yeah,
but that's that's a good series too. The guys all
I have no doubt stuff. Yeah, yeah, I'm ready for
Ted Lasso to Come Back. I haven't seen that one really, No,
I've been watching a lot of like one off movies.
It was a nice one that Dave Franco and Allison
Breed just had out the person, uh, someone I used

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to know I think was the title of that one.
I like him. I'll go check it out. So it's
kind of cool. I mean it's not, you know, slapstick comedy. Likewise,
Siegel has some funny moments. We don't go to the
theater like you do, you know what I mean. I
didn't judge you, don't try to judge me. So, like
I always say with folks, with your discretionary and come
if you okay, however you choose to spend it, as

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long as you're not hurting somebody else. You went to
what Time Square to go see a play? Right? Didn't
you go all the way out there? Yeah? We were.
We were on Broadway. We went to a number of things.
Look at you. My daughter's going back for a class
trip in April, which is kind of cool. They're gonna
get some training and behind the scenes fun. But but
it's what we do. We love concerts, right, We've got

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our tickets for Taylor swift, we've got our rings. Oh
my goodness, how did you get tickets for that? Don't
they cost like a million dollars to pay that? No?
And see, and that's the problem, and this is paid
a million dollars ticket. No, this is where it gets
dopey in the discussion of all of this stuff. You
can't get it. That's the problem is people look on
the secondary market of what people are trying to get

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for their tickets and they get all excited, but look
what it costs to go. It's like, no, here's the thing,
supply demand. It's like the super Bowl. We have this
argument every year where people get upset like it's a
surprise the super Bowl ticket cost you a couple grand.
Guess what. There's millions and millions like the Rocks fans,
the millions and millions that are trying to clamor to

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get into the stadium to watch said events. Well, how
did you get tickets this? So what they did was
when they the initial one, I got shut out, right,
And then they went through and they eliminated nearly two
hundred thousand tickets that were consumed buy bots. So there
was a second chance, and I got in on the

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second chance. Did you have to pay a million dollars?
I think total costs with fees they came out to
under two hundred dollars each. And how much can you
sell it for seven fifty each? Right? I tell your
girls that's sorry, we can't go. I have to sell
the tickets. If I was, you know what, do look man,

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there's there's a highly lucrative business in doing those things.
I mean way back to day. If you told your daughters, sorry, girls,
I'll give you a choice. We could either go to
the concert or I'll give you the cash. Where do
you want? My kids would take the cash. Now. They
love the experiences. There's no question we've been blessed right now.
I don't look any of it in, you know, as

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in the face and turn it away or make light
of it. Likewise, sitting here being able to do this.
But but like the thing I always tried, like, oh,
you guys get everything for free, It's like I don't.
I'm not a guy on that rung. Super Fox super
Bowl was just in in Arizona. Did I have a
ticket for that? Nope? When I was in Las Vegas

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working for two days, and then I was sitting at
a at a party where that broke out doing football trivia.
So tell me when I got there. Yeah, when I
first got married, my wife won two tickets in the
pool for the NBA All Star Game and the three
point Judy contest to the slam dunk cost all that
one when it was still good and people wanted to
go there, and we were just getting married, and somebody

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offered her three thousand dollars for the pair. And she
turned to me and she goes, where do you think
I go? Give it? Give us three thousand dollars. We're
gonna watch it on TV. Man, what do you get
me get out of here? Three thousand dollars? That was
big money back then? You know that's big money now. Well,
but that's the thing, right, It's all about value proposition,
Right if you're a team, if you're a fan of

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a team that goes oftentimes, right, and like say you
were a Patriots fan, Well, now you're picking and choosing.
You had a lot of opportunities to go see a
Super Bowl during time. I'm still not going to mortgage
my house to go see a Super Bowl. Well, but
but it's all it's all becomes a relativity thing, right
If suddenly you just say, hey, I've got to come
up with seven thousand dollars my team or ten thousand

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or whatever the fictional number is, because my team made
it to the super Bowl. Then yes, it's probably gonna
be like, wow, that's tight. But if it's a hey,
you know what that Starbucks run that I make with
my coworkers every day, how about I get a glass
of water that day and I get coffee from this
from me? Yeah? Right, but it's five bucks, Like no,
but literally a hundred times. Yeah, you know, but for

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a lot of teams, you have multiple decades before your
team goes I'm a Bears fan. They hadn't gone to
one Super Bowl since the nineteen eighty five team, so
I went to that one, right, But legitimately like that,
look that it's always remembering for what Prince did playing
Purple Rain in the Rain. They lost to Peyton Manning,
who didn't play great, but he gets he gets the win.
Devin Hester returned the opening kickoff for a touchdown, so

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you got that thrilling moment and a loss. Unfortunately, timing wise,
I was at a position in my life with a
newborn I couldn't go. I mean we made the choice.
We went. I was able to get home. My brothers
were able to get tickets to a World Series game
for the White Sox, which is why we went to
Game two. That's a set Nick home run, the Canarico

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home run. I'll never be able to trade that. I
had to cancel all my radio appearances for a week
because I had no voice. No, it's something I'll never
was worth every penny of it. Of course, I'll never
forget this. As a kid, I was like twelve or
thirteen years old, we had just moved to California. We
had no money whatsoever, talking about no like. I was
living with my aunt, my parents were living with my grandparents.

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We were just really poor. We were eating at McDonald's, right,
it was like that, you know, that was the thing.
That we're eating McDonald's and the guy next to me
is looking at it as four tickets to the Rams
Vikings playoff game in Los Angeles, and me, being a
big mouth New Yorker, I go, hey, hey, you, where's
the two tickets? For being my dad? And he took
two tickets out and just handed them to us, just

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handed him for free. And we took the two tickets
my dad took me to the game. It was pouring,
like raating. Remember correctly, I think Minnesota won the game
fourteen to seven. And I'll never forget it. We couldn't
afford to go, but the fact that the guy gave
us the tickets for free, just handed them out over.
My dad said, let's go, man, we'll go to the game.

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And it was like like three hours before the game.
It was crazy. Man, I'll never forget. It was a
great moment, you know. But yeah, I mean it just
goes back to the larger thing about experiences and being
able to take in those moments if it has that
much meaning to you. Yeah. Right, if you're a downtrodden franchise,
you've got a lot of time to put some money away. Yeah. No,
the dollar here, a dollar there. It's general principles and

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something that as a country and individuals, and we all
fail at it. I'm terrible at it oftentimes because you're
you're looking at it and you know you're going through
some stuff. What do you have retail therapy, You have
some circumstance like today, I was having a little bit
of a lull and then I stopped that. I bought
a box of baseball cards that said, hey, Mike picked

(10:31):
us up. You know, I pulled some crazy Julio Rodriguez
autograph card that pays for my week. And then somehow
so that could that would pay for half of a
super Bowl ticket, the thing I pulled today. But it's
the idea that you know we do. It was that
the best idea with the money ahead, No, but in
the end it paid off. But the experience matter, Like,
my kids are gonna grow up and eventually hopefully they

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have the means, the opportunity, the time to go do
some of this, and I love that I've been able
to do that with them. And I know that's the
father's son thing, father daughter thing, exact concerts. Whatever. You
don't get that time back, No you don't. A matter
of fact, I'll give you one more time. My dad
went to one LA Kings game. One game. He took
my brother just one game, and that happened to be

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the miracle on Manchester when they were down by five goals,
tied it up in the third and won it and overtime.
I think they were down five goals in the third
mic and ended up winning that game. So that was
the one Kings game went. But I mean, that's it, right.
I mean, I'm fortunate to be in this space to
be able to do it. I'm blessed with the opportunities
we've been able to have professionally personally, and these experiences

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are are you know, worth their weighting goal? And you know,
that's my one piece to to anybody as if as
you can, you try to grab one of those, and
if it's a Super Bowl, if it's a World Series game,
if it's just week nine and that. Yeah, but you
know you did. It's easy for you to say that.
Now suppose you just spent the whole bunch of time.
Because I heard Rob Parker um on before us talking

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about how he has family coming in the town. So
he bought tickets to see the Lakers in Dallas and
it cost him almost two thousand dollars. I don't know
how many. That means he bought good tickets. Yeah, But
my point is what happens if there's no Lebron or
there's no Luca the games still being played? Isn't it
again though, as he experienced any less, because these guys

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don't play. That's see, that's the problem with the NBA.
Now you're gonna make an excuse for these guys going
on load management that that's terrible when somebody spends all
that type of money to see a product and three
or four of the products don't show up, that that's
just terrible to spend that type of money. You know. Well,
but again it's a choice that you recognize the game

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you're playing right now when you're you're going and buying
NBA tickets. I hate to say it, but that's where
you're at, particularly if it's the back end of a
back to back game. Guess what you're probably not seeing
that star. Well, you gotta plan it right, and that's
built in to the math. Guys. And again used to
guess the starting pitches. I used to when I was
a kid. We used to say wins Fernando. Now you

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have more perfect information on that, uh, and you do it.
But like, think about the chase to Kareem's record, Not
to to belabor the point too much, but think about
the chase to Kareem's record and how much was being
spent on the secondary market for that game against Milwaukee.
You weren't buying tickets face value. You went into the market,

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but legitimately you went into the market place thinking you
were gonna see history, and you decided whatever that multiple
was to pay and you got lucky. Right, But I'm
sorry it didn't work out for you. If you waited
till that week's saying, oh, it's gonna kind, it's gonna
have that's different though, if if if he doesn't reach
the market in one game, right, but then he didn't

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play either because he was hurt. Yeah, it's just it's
just it stings when you spend that type of money
and you have guys sitting out on purpose because they
just don't want to get tired or something or risk
getting hurt. Well, but unfortunately, again at this point, we're
at the We're at the point where I'm just a
realist that when when I go, i I the laundry

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is still playing. I had partial season tickets for the
Lakers in Kobe's final year. You know how many times
I went to games and saw him play? Zero? No,
how many guy was over for six get out of
well he how many games did miss? How many? I
forget how many he missed on the year. The point
was every game I had tickets too that I went. Yeah,

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but but I knew that was the case where he
was physically and where we were in the continuum management.
But it was to a degree like Kobe was a
guy that was going to try to gut it out
and be out there, but they also still had to
be judicious with those minutes so that when he did play,
they got a maximum return. Right, That's kind of where

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we are a little bit. Yeah, then you got to
lower the prices um when something like that happens, I guess.
But but the point I'm making with this is, you know,
if you're going into the secondary market, you know, it's
it's a bit of a buyer beware. And that's not
to rob that's to the The whole equation of it
is that you know, especially with the NBA, you know,
guys may sit right baseball games. Not that you have

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the same thing, but if you know, the Yankees come
to town, you're in Chicago or whatever possible, Judge doesn't
play one of those, Yeah, but you can go ahead
and get you know, tickets to two or three of
the games. Baseball still is way more affordable. It's the best.
Baseball is the best bargain in all of sports, I think.
But again, it's what are you paying for it, because
if you're paying five hundred dollars a seat, you're not

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sitting in the three hundred levels. It's my point, you're
not paying You made it, but you made a choice
to go and upgrade your experience. Yeah, you're not paying
that much for baseball. I promise that all depending on
the game, you might really really well and where you
want to sit. Right, if you just want to get
in most ball games you can get in for under
twenty thirty bucks. You'll play there, you go. I mean,

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you'll pay more to park, But again it becomes the
what's your experience? Are you trying to sit lower level?
Are you trying to sit by the dugouts? Then you're
probably shoving out on a game. I want to have
a couple of Dodger dogs. I want to be able
to sit there and relax and then leaving the third inning.
That you know, that's like typical LA fans. Wow, look
at that taking the shots at the LA fans. Be

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Welcome back in Fox Sports A Radio to Jason Smith.
YEA with me Mike Harmon here on a beautiful Wednesday
from the tirerac dot Com, Fox Sports or radio studios.
There's no Jason Smith tonight. No, it's Arnie Spaniards. Yes,

(16:47):
Steak of Genius himself, my guy in uh so kind
to join us tonight from his palatial Vermont surrounding Vermont
Snowy Vermont. Is it starting to come down now? Yeah? Yeah,
it's coming down. It's coming down hard. Have you and
your wife worked out a plan for what time in
the middle of the night she's got to get up
and start shoveling or what she'll get up two am,

(17:08):
three am? What are we looking at to try to
curb the wait damage? As I'm going to bed and say,
get up, you have to start shoveling now, and she'll
get out there. Okay, make sure you got some coffee
or some hot coke already yet, let's go, let's shovel
That's why maybe something laden with that beautiful Vermont syrup
that has all the sparkles in it. You like that

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or what that work? Why did you get any? So?
She didn't send any to me, that's right. I didn't
send it to the host, just to the producer, and
then there was a problem with folks stealing meat sticks.
We're still trying to figure out the culprit here. I know,
I couldn't believe that they went in the bags. They
were taking up meat sticks. Yeah, for folks, for folks
that missed this. Arnie is one of the most benevolent

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and kind hearted souls we've got here. He and his
wife always send goody bags to our update anchors and
to the technical producers and our assistant and executive producers.
And it's always a number of treats and it's beautiful
stuff in the bags from Vermlont, and he included these
meat sticks that got the reputation in the calendar year

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twenty twenty one. Is something special. So when the bags
arrived in twenty twenty two, I tried to grab my producer,
Red Frostberg, who's normally here. I tried to grab it
to make sure nothing got bootguarded, and it turned got
someone dad. They took all his meat sticks. And then
we started talking about it and multiple people yeah I
had one, I had two, and then someone else like

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I got three. It's like, well, now you put yourself
on a short list of suspect took him. Yeah, exactly.
I couldn't believe. I told my wife that. She was
just laughing. She She's like, I can't believe people were
stealing the meat sticks. So we'll have to figure out
a way to send them next year. Well, you know what,
you're gonna have to just like put tie shirt and
charge you just send them meat sticks. Well, I mean

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you just send them directly to him and then he
you've got to check an I d like you're at
a library. Well it's true, Like my bag wasn't touch
which is funny because I don't even eat the meat
six and they were gone right there. Well mine were there.
I don't know why nobody didn't take mine. Mine would
be the perfect ones to take. Maybe you took everybody else,
But I don't eat the meat stick, SARNI doesn't mean

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you don't have people in your live exactly. I mean
that's fair. I like, because that is true. I do
have meat eaters around me. Hey, a story that popped
up on the timeline today concerning well one of the
players that we love or don't in the NBA, depending
on where you are in that pendulum swing, and that's

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Lebron James' son, Ronnie James, not yet out of high school,
still trying to figure out exactly where the commitment is
and everything as we go into the collegiate ranks and
that year gap between eligibility for the draft and ESPN
has their prediction for twenty twenty four and they have

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him as a lottery pick. How's that possible? How's that possible?
Escalated quickly, it did. How's that possible? He's not even
the best kid on his on his high school team, right,
I yeah, I have seen him ranked in the low
thirties and forties coming into the season. Now, I'm not
gonna lie. I haven't quite paid attention here in recent

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weeks and months to see what might have escalated and changed.
There's a line quote as most of his peers of flatline.
In the past twelve to eighteen months, James has grown,
filled out his frame, found another gear with his explosiveness,
and become an absolute terror off the ball defensively. Okay,
well did he did? Wait? Did he get that transferred

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to him? Because his dad doesn't play defense anyway? Yeah?
Exactly what does that say about all the college kids
right now out there? You know, at two, three, four
years or two three years don't be a two three
four year guy. I guess not. I guess it doesn't pay.
Who do you think has a better her career? I
might have brought this up to you before the show.
Do you think it's gonna be Bronnie or Charlie Woods? Um?

(21:06):
I think I think Charlie. I did that. I like
that his middle name is Axel. I didn't see. I
didn't know, not like Axel Rose who just celebrated his
sixtieth birthday while announcing another track on the world tour
with Guns n' Roses, or Axel Foley another film in
there as they bring back Eddie Murphy no a x
E L like like Axel Foley. Um, I would go

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Charlie just for giggles because I think it's kind of fun. Well,
I mean for giggles, but let's be honest. I mean
he swings the club like like like he's been on
the tour for years, you know what I mean? I mean,
just Bronnie just getting to the NBA. It's gonna be
tough enough. Well, and that one's to talk twelve months ago, right,
was is he ever gonna be an NBA caliber caliber player?

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And all of a sudden he shoots up to where
it's like, not only is he gonna be dry, he's
a top ten guy. I'm like, wait, what I would do?
The Rory you know the Rory McIlroy bet, Remember that
where his father um went to a you know, one
of those gambling places and said, I bet you my
kid wins the was it the British Open in the
next five years or something to that effect, and he
wanted he wanted the last year um of that bet

(22:16):
and won big money on that. Could you imagine just say,
I would to take Charlie Woods to win the Masters
in the next ten years. See if somebody gets jobs
on that. I think I did that. I think I'm
in no Charlie Wood. But also the individual sport, so
you don't have to know the acclamation there, And we've
watched with golf the potential to break through because you

(22:36):
don't have a single dominant force like his old man was.
Do you think all the Tiger fans and lebron fans
will watch the next generation because well, they're never gonna
be as good as Tiger. No, no, no no, But
if they if they go out and become more than
just serviceable, right. If if Charlie is competing for top

(22:57):
ten or even at the start top twenty finishes with
regularity to where you see a growth, then yeah, people
will jump on board. Ronnie James happen to be more
than a rotation guy. Yeah, but Tiger fans are now,
what in their fifties, sixties, Um, you know, are they
gonna be you know, Charlie fans when they're in their
seventies and eighties if they're still around. I'm not even

(23:21):
sure about that. And well, but the idea is hopefully
you cultivate some young golf fans that I mean, not
you know, not to get too deep into them, but yeah,
I mean that's that's the thing we talk about with
all these sports, right, how do you get them away
from devices and back to games that's and back on
the golf course. Good luck to that. Yeah. Well, but

(23:42):
I mean it is one of these you know, larger things, right.
I brought this up, you know, we also brought this
up on Sunday. Think about this. Think of all the
icons we've had in sports that you have I have seen,
you know, like the Michael Jordan's and the Kobe's and
the Kareems and the magics UM and the Tom Brady's
and Joe Matin and Wayne Gretzky and all that, and
then think of the ones that are going to be

(24:04):
iconic like that from here on out. Maybe you got
Patrick Mahomes and that's it. Maybe Otani maybe, and who
else maybe Luca, but nobody else that transcends UM like
those guys I gave you. We really saw some big
names in sports that um almost as bigger than the sport.

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To be honest, I would say some of that goes
into media consumption and maybe this is me nerding out
and taking the broader approach. Back then it was highlight,
real stuff. We didn't get to watch every game, no,
but you see more of the players that. But that's
my point is is that they're everywhere the ubiquitous. It's
it's like I think it was um what's her name?

(24:49):
The woman that played Marilyn Monroe in this movie. She's
nominated for an Oscar and all that, and u Armist
I think is her name. She's been in a bunch
of stuff, but she talked about movie stars in this
day and age and how that's kind of a dying
breed because you know everything about everybody's whereabouts. Everybody's got

(25:13):
a cell phone to take a picture. You can't even
go to dinner without someone saying, hey, you know what,
they had a rubin and a diet cokee, you know.
But legitimately like there's nothing, there's no mystery because you're
in the public eye and the fact that you're always selling.
Back then, you made a movie, you went away. You

(25:34):
either went to make another movie or your party. In
the movie Babylon, which is now out. If you haven't
seen Verse twenty minutes, you tell me which part of
the screen your eyes gravitate too. But then the rest
of it pretty good story of the changing face in
Hollywood from the silent films into you know, the talking
and sound arrow, which is pretty interesting. But it's to

(25:55):
that level of now we don't have those those iconic
things because we just it's always there. It's always there.
But you would think it would it would elevate these
athletes to a bigger um, you know, being bigger than
life than the other ones that you never really got
to see much. That we're you know, on one or
two days a week, like you were looking to get

(26:17):
to NB. But that was the point. It was appointment viewing,
whereas now it's it's another slate of NBA games, well
like and every night it's the same rotation. I don't
want to watch the Suns again. Well maybe I do now,
but all years like, all right, it's the late window
on TNT. What do I got? The sons there? They
are staring me in the face again. But even with that,
all I could thought think of was Mahomes and Altani

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and maybe Luca. That was it. Yeah, I couldn't think
of anybody else that is going to be as big
as iconic as all the other ones that we've grown
up watching. And no, it's the curiosity, right. Mahomes is
on that path for sure. Yeah, he's a Turkey. As
long as his uh, his wife and his brothers day
out of the picture, people will still have the love

(26:59):
affair with him. Luca is is curious. I mean, he's good.
You got John Morant to people of gravity, but he's
never could bury John Morant to the names I gave
you is apples and oranges. You know that, right, Well,
but that's the whole point is can they become that guy?
He's not that guy. Now you've just told me you're

(27:21):
shouting from the old man. But you could tell, you
could tell which ones are gonna head toward that direction
of which ones are not. And John Morant is not well.
But part of it is winning, Like Lucas a great story,
is he gonna win in Dallas wherever he goes to
a right Kyrie Irvings showing up there? They lost what
first three games? Three games? Yeah, and three right now? Right?

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So you got that going for you. You just go
through the annals of history. You got a bunch of
guys that are really great, hall of very good, all
of those kind of things. But in terms of becoming
iconic performers, I think part of it is the time
in space. Like even with Lebron, Now, if this feat
of passing Kareem was done ten years ago, doesn't it

(28:04):
feel a little bigger because you have to change up
programming to see him. Maybe you've got to go out
of your way to capture as opposed to right now,
there it is and he's been everywhere. Because I know,
like with Brady, towards the end, a lot of it
was fatigued. Would he would he just go away already?
Whether he and the evaluation of his play was terrible

(28:24):
because people were just tired of him. I felt it
should have been bigger, but I didn't think it was
because that we watched too much of it. But maybe
you're right about that. I felt it could have been
a bigger situation. Well, but the second and it's also
the second time. It's like you did this last year,
so beat it and we still had a Super Bowl
to be played with with Lebron. You've got a lot
of folks and it's it's constant talk. All right, where's it?

(28:49):
I don't care? And now he says how much the
twenty three games being for winning? Like between him and
Darvin Ham, How laughable is that? So what the hell
are we doing running in place for sixty games? None
of this matter? I mean, if we're gonna say that
about the All Star Game, I mean, both of these
guys more or less just said that about the first
two thirds of the season. How about we back out

(29:11):
of load management and just talk about the NBA regular
season if we're going to complain about it, Yes, exactly.
The load management has got a lot of people just
up in arms. It really is going to be the
death of the NBA if it continues like this. Yeah.
And by the way, by the way, we're getting so
many tweets. One guy says, Hey, Scottie says, Lebron, we'll
get his son overdrafted, likely destroy his career, destroyer's career

(29:34):
in doing so. Because some owners want a year of
ticket sales. Well, I mean, look, absolutely unless he buys
Las Vegas, Lebron, But again is that wrong though in
the end, you're running a business. True, as much as
it pains fans to hear it, sometimes you're running a

(29:54):
business and you have to decide how much If folks
are still gonna pay in to whatever the packages are,
folks are still gonna pay to show up to the
eighteen to twenty thousand seat arenas, go on down the line,
trading cards, memorabilia, jerseys, anything sponsored by the league. Then

(30:14):
until you hit a tipping point where that's not happening,
you're worried about your bottom line some of yeah, who
knows it won't be one of the bronze last year's too,
So that is. Be sure to catch live editions of
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(30:39):
in the Jason Smith Show with Me, Mike Harman, Fox
Sports Radio to live from the tire Act dot Com Studios.
Arnie Spaniard. Yes, it's been a pleasure quo. Yeah, No,
four hours goes fast, Yes it does. We didn't get
to mock any NBA things. I mean, we got a
little bit into tickets and load management and the world

(31:00):
that is I'll seemingly unraveling the NBA. Adam Silver says,
nothing to see here, just read another two minute report. Instead,
I gotta get down to New York to go see
a Knicks game that you should. Yeah, I gotta get
down there. They're in the mix. Five hour drive for me,
that's not bad. No, not at all. It's like sometimes
driving from my house to the Yeah here in LA

(31:22):
traffic as you remember, oh so well. But one thing
we need to do it is time. Yeah, it's time
for the progressive play of the day. Brandon at eight,
So with it at seven, at six, Brandon at five,
at four, at three, at two for the way in
it is good. Let's get out of here point eight
to seventy eight, seventy six, Your final, Alabama Number two

(31:46):
takes down the South Carolina Gamecocks on the road. Brandon Miller,
we've talked about it tonight, Arnie. Everything going on with
an investigation into a murder and the gun and where
did it come from, and Miller's potential role in any
of it is up in the investigation and something that

(32:11):
leaves folks uneasy. But Number two prevails on the road.
Eighteen point seven points and eight rebounds per game, coming
in fourteen of twenty five from the field tonight, six
of thirteen from three point range forty one points. Tremend
boards in the win for Miller. No, he was absolutely tremendous.
A matter of fact, I watched part of the game.

(32:31):
Bague business first two shots and then he went on
an absolute tear. He just kept them in the game.
He you know, he fought when they were down by
like six in the first half, got him back in
this thing. They were down by four at halftime. You know,
he hit the one that sent it into overtime, the
one that won the game. He just did everything for them.
He was absolutely tremendous. Reminder that we're brought to you

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(33:16):
Miller's availability for this game. We'll keep an eye on
this case and the investigation thereof as it continues. But
we'd be remiss, Arenie, if we didn't close out tonight
your son plays hockey. We still have to solve the
Did you figure out where he got that five hundred
dollars T shirt? Yeah? I think he put out my
credit card when he was out in Italy without telling me,
and I don't know how much it cost out there.

(33:38):
But he has a Gucci teacher tried to sell for
five hundred, And would you believe that those people actually
interested in buying us? Well, if I have all my
T shirts combined, don't come out to five. I'll tell
you what though, The vintage T shirt market is no joke, Arnie.
If you got a bunch of old concert shirts or
you know YMCA worn band shirts or branded stuff there

(34:03):
there worth a lot of money. I went to a
thing here called thrift Con and that I looked at
this rock shirt from Yeah the Rock Dwayne Dwayne Johnson
from years ago, and it was missing part of his head.
The guy still wanted three out of bucks for I'll
get out. So I mean you got a whole other
world that. Yeah, we talked about him. Man, you don't
you don't know one man's trash dot dot dot. But

(34:26):
let's go is that you are the father of a
hockey player into the world of hockey for well, another
ceremonial play of the night there, you let it up.
Get the pick five, Randy, the kind of hand py
still lose eleven seconds? You've got ten seconds? The pound
going on right now? Borrow February twenty second, nineteen eighty.

(34:53):
Listen to how excited Al Michaels was to call that game.
It still gives me goosebumps. Perhaps the single best victory
for Team USA in any sport at any time. UM.
We were so proud. That was so important, And of
course that wasn't the clincher. We I think we had
to beat Finland um two days later and still get
the gold. Otherwise we would have finished with the with

(35:15):
the bronze. But unbelievable. We had lost to the Russians
in Madison Square Garden like ten to one or something
like that. It was truly a miracle and um, it
was just a fantastic game. Was unbelievable. Look at you, yeah, historian,
you got the garden in the whole nine yards. See,
it's it's all about the garden. Now you're gonna have
to make that that trip. Yeah, but it was, it was.

(35:37):
It was a great time. I think a lot of
people remember that to this day. Al michaels with that
excited call, do you believe we get me one of
those on a Thursday night in twenty twenty three, that's
the question. That'd be great? That awesome. Alright, better games
and better days for al Michael's coming up. Appreciate you
sitting in. We had a great time quick four hours.

(35:57):
Thanks to Brandon, thanks to Alex, thanks to Andre and Patrick,
and of course Brian Fenley on the updates coming out
next on these Fox Sports radio airwaves. Yes, he is
the man with one hundred and fifty seven nicknames. It's
my buddy, Ben Maller taking it into the night. Thanks
everybody having great night.