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Well, we made it another year. We made it through the.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Big Summer, which is halfway on to another NFL season
Pro Football Hall of Fame game tonight. The Bears win
in a weather shortened game because there was too much
lightning and thunder and rain in the area. The Bears
beat the Texans twenty one seventeen. We'll get to the
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new kickoff rule in a second, but I'll tell you
we knew coming in we weren't going to see Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Not gonna see a lot of starters playing. Okay, I
get that.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Now I find myself lucky and I feel good when
we see backups of the caliber that we saw tonight,
When we see backups that all of us have heard of,
that have seen played, that we've had in our fantasy
lineups at some point in our lives, I feel calm.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I feel good about that.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
I feel good tonight that we saw Brett Rippen, and
we saw Khalil Herbert and Rashawn Johnson, and we saw
case Keenum a little bit.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
You know, I feel good.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
We saw Davis Mills, we saw JJ Taylor, all these guys.
At some point we're supposed to be good. We're good
at one point. Now they're not anymore. Now you see
those guys, I know, I'm watching a real exhibition game,
and I'm feeling good about it.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
We all win. It's when there's players.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Coming, It's like, I know this guy is it's gonna
be the third quarterback.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's here, it's here.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
That's but seeing all those guys tonight, oh, it's like
watching old friends.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I think we all won tonight.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Old friends they mean much more to me the new friends,
because they can see where you are and they know
where you've been. Harry Chapin, everybody. Look, it's the the
idea that we've had some veterans. So there was competent play.
That was one of the things that you really could
emphasize in the first half. Some crisp playing, not a
lot of penalties, I think only two accepted, and the
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clock kept moving. You saw some some good drives. Davis Mills,
I mean, he was looked like he was gonna be
a serviceable starter. Oh and then CJ. Shrouds showed up,
so that was the end of that. Yeah, but between
him and Rippin and you know Colin Johnson, he'll be
a wide receiver nine for the Bears, but uh, he's
there and next man up kind of mentality. But you
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got to see some some ONTs of real football, and
guys got to put up some good tape. So when
the inevitability of the rash of injuries in the NFL happens,
who knows, Davis Mills or Ripping could be the guys
leading your team to the promise Land Maybe case Keenum,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, oh no, no, no, could be. Hey, case has
a Minneapolis miracle. Remember he's going, He's going. Man, five
years ago, I had the Minneapolis Miracle, and now here
I am, and I'm playing in the Hall of Fame
and I'm the third guy. I thought I was over
with that. I thought it was all right. I guess
this is where we're at right now.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Now. I mean he did get paid coming out of
all of that, so I mean I'm around.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
No, I'm not saying he's unhappy. I'm just saying, no, no.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
He's unhappy. He's the third guy.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
He's not the starter, but he got he got paid,
so he's not really unhappy.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
But he's unhappy to a point.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Right's completely happy. I'm somewhat happy.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Well, but if you win the job as the primary backup,
it's a decent to pay and you get to carry
a clipboard and wear a hat. That's backwards, I don't know,
but the idea is that you know you're still in
the league, you're still in the game, and you're one
snap away. It's that movie Twenty Feet from Stardom, right,
it was all about backup singers and going all the
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way through the history of You're just that far away
from being the number one, and maybe you never get there.
But you're in the room with the Jaggers and the
and the heavyweights across the music landscape, you know. So
there you go.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Okay, you're in the room where it happens.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Well exactly, Okay. You see he's now writing something about
the Warriors. You see this, it's crazy, the movie The Warriors. Yeah,
so he's gonna take the Warriors. He's evidently got some
big idea that he's gonna write a musical based on
the Warriors.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Wow, they're gonna have all that have the baseball furies.
I told you how much they've scared me when I
was a kid. I was so scared of the baseball fury.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Yeah. So yeah, let Manuel mor and Isaid Davis collaborate
with NAS. They got NAS in the mix too, Warriors
inspired concept album, which maybe there's some theatrical production down
the line.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Interesting, interesting about all right? All right? So while we
have that Grete, that's you adding.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Value, add value to America, Adding value, Buddy, adding valobal.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Value, right there, buddy, let's go.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Meanwhile, we saw the brand new.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
On side Kick or the brand new Kickoff, the Kickoff foret.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Will We'll get to the on side kick in a second. Look.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I'll be honest. When the rule was first announced, I
I was excited because I thought, all right, we might
see a little bit something different, we might see something
a little bit better overall, in in in the kickoff,
because the kickoff, they keep trying to find a way
to make it work. Maybe we get something. All right,
(06:01):
I'm with you on this, Maybe that could happen. Let
me reserve judgment and see how it goes. And then
I watched how they lined up for the opening kickoff
because I knew I had to wait and actually see it.
And when I saw them line up, I said, I
hate this. I hate I absolutely hate this because it
looks so gimmicky and it looks so XFL like I was,
(06:24):
where are the black and neon green uniforms and the
red helmets and nobody in the stands? I mean where,
because that's what it looked like. I saw it right away.
I said, I hate this. I absolutely hate this because
it just it doesn't look like the NFL. It looks
like it looks like, hey, I'm trying something, I'm desperate.
I'm in a mid life or late life crisis, whatever
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it is. I'm just trying something sports car.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You know, I'm eighty four years.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Old, but I'm gonna get I'm gonna get my I'm
gonna get my hair. I'm gonna get a pink line
in my hair because I'm gonna It's like, what's going on?
Like I watched this from and I just said, I
just don't like it, and there's so many different things
to it. And you can't run until the ball is
touched and he kicks from back. It's just crazy. And
while I will give it time because I look, I
get that, you know, certain new ideas come up and
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it's easy to hate them right away, like I hate. Okay,
let's wait and see if it's something you actually like. No,
I understand that, but but I watched, like, I'll give
it time, but it just looks so ridiculous. It did
and and and I'm saying, you know, like the NFL
keeps throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks
with this, and I go, okay, maybe it's time to
stop like this. This just looks like like what are
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we doing here? And teams are gonna be trying trial
and error to figure things out all season long, wall,
how do we do this? How does this work?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
And it's just it's just absolute insanity. And I right
away I hated it because I felt it look gimmicky
and it looked like something you know, that that a
spring league would come up with, because they kind of did,
and and I just I right away I said, nope,
I hate it.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I hate I'm sorry. I have to go by how
I feel and write.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
As soon as I saw the way they were lined
up and they got their hands down.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
There, no, I hate this. I absolutely hate this.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah. I think one of the things right off the
jump is you're watching the lineup, it's like, all right,
so it'll play out kind of like a run play right,
you're at the line of scrimmage and you get that
engagement there, and I think where it'll be interesting the
first couple of weeks is if you special teams coordinator
comes up with the wrinkle to figure out how to
spring a guy. Otherwise we're gonna have a lot of
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all right, kickoff return twenty seven yard line, kickoff return
twenty two yard line, kick off return thirty two like that,
We're gonna we're gonna be in that range, it's gonna
be about a seven to ten yard range and that like,
so at that point, why are we kicking off right
for that one or two outlier kind of play? Maybe
they could do some like rugby plays to where we
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keep it, keep the ball moving, and keep going. But
the idea of the wrinkle is that, okay, maybe you
have a situation whereby you can break containment of that wall. Right,
Because in watching the kickoffs when they did give you
the all twenty two version, it was kind of a
discussion point of all, right, most of you the players
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are going to be on that line, so what's the
rotation to give them a second line of defense or
to have you know, the idea of a free safety
back there that'll be able to run down a return
or if he breaks containment. So I mean, we'll get
a couple of those, but I think overall, it's it's
a lot hold to do about nothing. In the first
hour of the program, I referenced it as a I
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don't really care about your player safety because this.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I don't care about your player right, because let everybody
get hurt.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
But I don't know there if they all run down
and they all wind up hurting themselves.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
But it's it's the easy line for the NFL to
use whenever something isn't working on the field. You know
what for player safe, You're gonna do this. And it
may be you know, a substantive you know, coefficient in
front of that variable that that leads you to say,
you know, this is really causing a lot of injuries,
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or you're saying, all right, it's in the margins. I'm
guessing we're more towards the it's in the margins, but
it's easy the legislate it out. Again, you're talking about
the long play of the next CBA negotiations and small
concessions by the league are big wins for the players,
(10:22):
or at least in perception. Right, We've seen that time
and again. Hey you guys want to give up one
or two offseason workout days? Oh yeah, wait, what do
we give up? Damn it? We shouldn't have given that up, right,
That's generally the reaction when the vote goes through. So
this seems like this may be another one of them,
and at least for Game one, except for you know,
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the twelfth man coming on to help with the kickoffs
because it's windy and you don't want the ball flying
off the tee. Right, that was the one part of
it that worked. Okay, I'm in favor of that. So
we can get the play back on the field.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
What do you have we have? Okay, let's get it
back on now. Look, I'm not a big save the
kickoff guy, Right, I'm not. I'm not gonna walk around.
I'm not gonna walk side save the kickoff.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The kickoff, it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's not gonna take jobs away from anybody because you
still have to worry about the the the on side
kicks if they use them. You still have punt teams,
punt return, field goal, field goal block.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
Extra point, extra point block. Like it's it's not.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It's not doing any big damage to the game where
you say, oh boy, this is gonna be really something.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
They've tried for a long time to make the kickoff work,
and just because they've always done something doesn't mean that
it always is going to be around. Right, doesn't mean well,
we've always had the kickoffs. It means you always have
to know it's we've seen in the world. Just because
stuff has always been around, it doesn't always need to
be around.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Up inside the NBA, too soon. Man, I'm just grabbing
stories from the headlines, like you're good.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
You are so going to hell for that. I can't
believe you said that.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
But look, it's a case of all right, maybe we've
done enough. We certainly have tried to make the kickoff work,
but in the modern era, we want to try to
find a good balance between player safety and keeping it
a play because you know, you see the players that
get hurt on the kickoffs because of the high level collisions. Yes,
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the NFL wants to cut down on those. They've tried
over the last fifteen years different ways. Okay, we're gonna
make it safe. We're gonna kick off from the forty
yard line. Everybody's kicking into the end zone. I want
to make it a play again. They've tried everything, and
now that they've tried everything, I think you can say,
if this doesn't work, this crazy ass thing, I don't
want to try anything else.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
This is dumb. I don't want this to be Hey,
it's the year they tried that.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But it's it to get out of an idea that
doesn't work, you do it fast, and quite honestly, if
you decided to say, hey, every offensive possession is going
to start a team's twenty or twenty five yard line.
Everybody would say fine, all right, everybody would say fine,
as far as you want to have on sidekick. Okay,
you can't do the surprise on sidekick. How many times
does that really happen over the course of the season, right,
(13:12):
you all know when the on sidekick is coming. Hey,
we're down by six and there's forty eight seconds left
and we have no timeouts.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
We're gonna on sidekick.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Okay, very rare outlier situations.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So you can.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
You can have an on sidekick, but it's gotta be
an on sidekick. You can't kick it deep, you can't
do it. It's got to be a certain thing like that.
That's I think we would move towards that, and that
would get an approval right away.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Right. Nobody would go crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
It would be something we would go, oh, no more kickoffs,
and we would lament and we would say, boy, remember
Devin Hester, remember all the kickoff. It's a great kickoff returns.
We're not gonna see this anymore in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Everything. But we say okay that and after.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Three days it would be okay, Yeah, quarterbacks coming out
starting ball twenty five yard line, I mean, or twenty
years whatever you want to say, back to the twenty
twenty five yard line, whatever you want to make it
for the offense.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
We get used to that pretty fast.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
So if this doesn't work after this year, yeah, I'm
not gonna save the kickoff bandwagon if you wanted to
make it that, and that's how.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Teams took over. We get used to it pretty quick.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
Yeah. I think in the end, you've got so many
different initiatives of improving the game. The one that I
hope really bears out well is, you know, getting rid
of the Chain gang again. I don't want to get
those guys fired, you know, find another place for them,
you know, to sling some concessions or or or or
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move them into another booth or something as part of
the review team. But you know, those are the important things.
This one, it just seems like, all right, we're gonna
do something, even if it's uh. I don't want to
say it's wrong, but it's not right either. It's changed
for Chain's sake more than more than anything else. Like,
(14:49):
I don't I don't see how this is gonna greatly
benefit And I've seen a lot of thought pieces and
and you know the expository. Here's Twitter, you know, one
of five on the new kickoff rule talking about how
it is going to be so great for offense, Like,
all right, maybe in week one and two because guys
are just getting back into full tackling mode.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 4 (15:10):
I mean, I don't from what I saw tonight, and
it's the Texans and the Bears, so two out of
thirty two sample size, there didn't seem to be anything
special coming. Not that they're going to show their hand
of creativity and reverses and whatever whatever the hell else
they might come up with. But color me is, you know,
(15:32):
not nonplus not excited about this innovation to the game
for twenty twenty four. I got other ideas that are
far more entertaining, especially after watching Gaelic football and a
lot of rugby. I think we got some other innovations
we can bring to the game that are not from the.
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One of the most underrated rock songs of all time
is Remedy by The Black Crows. This is their best
song and their first album was so good and it's
not even close.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
How great a song.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
This is great album, yeah, I mean that was top
to bottom. It was fantastic. But this one, yeah, this
is a banger.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
I remember when when this came out for their second album,
I said, oh my god, they're gonna carry rock and
roll for the next twenty years. And and well, well
they kind of had this album and then that was it.
But this song, I mean, the first time I heard
Barnwarm where I'm like, oh my god, Black Crows is
the greatest band in the world.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
This song is incredible.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Jason Spid Mike Harmon live from the Tireck dot Com Studios.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Go ahead, buddy, it just took you so.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Far back, like you're just in your head of how
excited you were at the release, all the way going.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Nineteen ninety two.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
You want you want, you want a story about the
song real fast. You want a story about the song.
You want to know something. You want me to pull
the curtain back hit me. Nineteen ninety two. Ninety two
was it tough? Was a really tough year for me
because I had just graduated college and I had a
tough time getting a job right like this. You know,
it wasn't like now where I could graduate Syracuse and
my degree and I can, oh, guess what, I'm announcing
(18:24):
the lacrosse Final four on ESPN. U.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
No, this was where ninety two it was.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Hey man, it's tough for you for me to get
in doing nights at a country music station in Ithaca, right, Like.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
That's how hard it was.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's not like it is now, right, And I'm not
I'm just saying this is what the time was, just
to give you my more expanded workplace in.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Sports and opportunities for people to break in at an
earlier age.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
And I remember like it was tough time.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
I went through the whole summer and I was trying
to find a job in radio and I couldn't do it.
And I was living on Staten Island. I had moved
back from Syracuy, and I didn't know what was going on.
I had interned for ESPN and New York, but I
didn't know what I wanted. And at this point I
had started working at the supermarket where at my old
job from high school. Right, it was like in the
Mellins this is yeah, this was this is not what
(19:14):
I wanted. But I had to make money, right, So
while I'm waiting, I'm like, okay, I'll go back to work.
And it was fine, like it wasn't a big deal.
Was like, okay, I'm done with college waiting to get
a job. And they knew, so it was fine, but
I was still like, wow, really, this is what I'm
doing after this. And I remember it was something It
was September, it might have been September October, and it
was some kind of I don't know if it was
(19:36):
the Grammy. It wasn't the Grammys, but it was some
other big rock show that was on TV and I
had worked during the day and I just didn't know it.
And I turned on the whatever award show it was
on it and I might have been American Music Awards
or something, I don't know what it was. And the
Black Crows opened it up with Remedy and like, I
loved the song so much when it came out, and
(19:59):
I'm watching them do the song and Chris Robinson is
strutting around the stage and I'm just hearing the guitar
and it's just flipping awesome, And at that moment, I said,
I have to go back to Syracuse and get on
the radio. It just hit me, was like a bolt
of it. It was a bolt of light and just
hit me, says I gotta get back, Like I was up,
and I was up, and I was moving about myself
(20:21):
in the basement. And I feel like such a goober
now telling the story. But I'm standing and oh and
I just hit me. It says, I gotta leave here.
I gotta go back to Syracuse. I gotta get back
on the radio. That's what That's what I have to
I gotta go back because I didn't go I'm like,
why didn't I do this? Why didn't I try to
take advantage of the market I had done radio when
when I was in college. I said, no, I gotta
go back to Syracuse. I gotta get back on the radio.
(20:43):
And I wrote some letters, and I applied for a
couple of part time gigs and I got one finally,
and a month later, I moved back to Syracuse. And
I made that decision hearing Remedy by the Black Crows.
I don't like, I said, I wish I remember what
it was like American Music Awards. But it just hit
me like a bolt to lightning. Go what am I doing?
I got to do something more proactive than just continuing
(21:04):
to send out tapes fruitlessly.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So I'm going back to Syracuse and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
And it hit me in the middle of remedy, and
it always kills me that I never told Steve Gorman
that story. Worked with him for how long here at
Fox Sports Radio. We would talk on Twitter once in
a while, and I never told him that story, and
I feel like I should have.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Well, you know what, I'm still in touch with Steve.
We would go back and forth on stuff a bunch.
So yeah, we'll make sure that story gets seven.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
The only thing is he was he was playing drums
on that at that time, right like it was, he.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Was playing dru Make sure he was on the stage
at that time.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
No, no, for those like integral part of the early
success of what they did, and the acrimony has been
well documented and well established. The Crow's doing their thing,
Steve doing radio. Uh, he did sports with us here
at Fox Sports Radio, and I believe he's in Minnesota now.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Yeah, he's doing mornings in Minnesota. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
And that was the best, that's the best behind the
music ever because Chris and Rich Robinson, the guitarist, their brothers.
They get into how much they argued all the time
and hated each other, and it's almost like that. It's
almost like in The Bear season three and everybody's yelling
all the time. Like he's telling this story about they
went to pick up a music executive, like when they
(22:20):
were gonna release Shake Your Money Maker, and they were
They picked him up from the airport and they were
driving him back to the studio and they started arguing
in the car about what the fastest way was back
to the studio, and Chris Robinson saying, and I'm yelling, no,
you gotta take Peachtree. We're like, no, you're not blank
and taking Peachtree, get off here and make the right
and no, I'm not making the right here.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
It's gonna take me down to the end of street.
I'm taking Peachtree.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
He goes, and this guy's in the car going must
have been like, what the hell is going on with
these guys?
Speaker 3 (22:45):
We're gonna sign.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Them, they can't even figure out how to drive me
to the studio.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I love that. Yeah. I loved hanging out with Steve
and Jeffrey, who's back with the Colts when they were
down in Tennessee. You got to visit them and hang
for a few days back of the day. So maybe
maybe I'll.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Go find him in Minnesota, or just if you tell
them tell him that story. I really am bummed. I
never told him that story.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Now would you believe this remedy peaked at number forty
eight on the charts. That's why I want to scold
all of the programmers from back in the day. That
is just failed.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
It sane because that's how good, That's how good of
a song that is.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Man, that was a great album, Like, yeah, those first
couple of albums were tremendous.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Now you want a hot take, and I will pull
the curtain back. Of course we want a hot take.
You want a hot take. We watched the US women's
basketball team today beat Belgium. Aristotle was not Belgium beat
Belgium eighty four, said, looked they won by thirteen eighty
seven seventy four. And it was a game in which
the United States struggled again.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Way more than you thought.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Now the good news before the hot take as much
of a struggle as it's been. Because the United States
women you think they're still at a point where they
should be rolling over teams by twenty five at thirty points.
Not that way with the men, but with the women.
That that that's the way it's been for since nineteen
ninety two, to make it all bring it all the
way back to that. Uh, it's been a little bit
more difficult. I still can't see them losing the gold medal.
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And it goes back to what we talked about the
night of their first game. Brianna Stewart and Asa Wilson
are the two best players in the world right now,
and they are absolutely unstoppable. And Brianna Stewart might wind
up playing guards. She might, she would be their best guard.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
She should.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
But the way she played today, spread the floor, saw
the court, all of it.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
That gets to the hot take. But we're getting ahead
of ourselves.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Hey, they were twenty two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
By the way, the bigs are just so good, those
two and then and then when one of them needs
a break, Brittany Grinder comes in and she's unstoppable. She's
not playing as many minutes, still kind of get you know,
getting into shape and everything else, you know, coming back.
Obviously basketball was secondary for her coming into this year,
but the three of them. They're unstoppable, and two of
them are on the court together at all times, and
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so there's no way I can see there being any
other result other than the two of them are going
to bring us to the gold medal, right, Like they're
gonna find a way to get it done. But it's
way more difficult than it has to be. Why because
the guards have been bad. They played five players at
guard tonight against Belgium, and they combined to shoot six
out of twenty fourteen assists and nine turnovers, Like none
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of them were any good. The best I can say is, hey,
Kelsey Plum defensively really was a thorn in their side
in the fourth quarter and stop them from hitting threes
and making comebacks.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
And she forced a lot of bad shots.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That was really you know, I love the Kelsey Plum
defensively in the fourth quarter as a real difference maker.
Still times she got lost, and still times you see
both men's and women's having trouble defending the three. But
outside of that, the guard's been bad. They've not been
able to get the ball in and not been able
to score.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
They have been bad.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
And I'll tell you what if Caitlin Clark was on
this team and she should be obviously we talked about it.
She would be starting the next game. She would go
for hey player on the bottom, which he should have
been selected, like they always take the number one pick
in the WNBA draft in the Olympic year, because you
want to get them experience. You put them on the team.
They're getting ready to carry the league the next few years.
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But no, no, no, because we're petty and we're petulant
and we're jealous, we're not gonna take Caitlin Clark. No,
the coach doesn't like her. You know, the players probably
didn't want her. We're not gonna take her. And so
she would have had some mop up minutes here in
the first couple of games, just a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Here and there, maybe a DNP.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
But you know what, by next game, Cheryl Reeve would
have to swallow big and go, you know what, we
got a starter her, We have to start. There's nothing else.
I I didn't want her on the team. I don't
like that she's getting all the attention that she does.
But you have to start the player who can get
to the hoop, because none of the players can get
to the hoop and score. Someone who can hit threes
because nobody else can hit threes, and someone.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
Who, oh, by the way, is leading the WNBA.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And assists and can get the ball to Brianna Stewart,
can get the ball to Asia Wilson because she can
dribble and move around the court and not get into trouble,
which is what happened to a lot of these guards.
Right Caitlyn Clark is used to being picked up in
the backcourt and still getting the ball up the floor
and getting it into the bigs and racking up ten, twelve,
fourteen assists in the game. None of these guards are
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used to that. They all pick up their dribble as
soon as they cross half court. They have trouble getting
the ball up over their defenders. There's a lot of turnovers,
there's not a lot of plays. The guards are not good.
They're just not good. And if Caitlyn Clark was on
the team, it would be a huge headline because it
would be Caitlin Clark is going to start the next
game at point guard for Team USA.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
In the end, you've got too much down low and
you'll be able to work with Stewie as they I
just like that. They call her Stewie. Very rarely do
you get a full Brianna Stewart former guests of the show.
By the way, Brianna Stewart.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
And Kinslin cost like come and oh, I can't believe it.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
And Asia will soon like they're just too much down
low right. But the key is getting the ball inside
and Stuart, as we've discussed tonight, doing a lot of
the damage herself and bringing the ball up and finding
her and creating her own shot. So the guard play
what was it six for twenty or something like that
for the night. Yeah, six of fifteen off the bench,
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oho for five from the starters assist. The turnover ratio
barely a one to one, you know, about a one
and a half when it's all said and done. It's
not great, So trying to find a spark. Yeah, they
wish they had her there. We talked about the Dawn
Staley interview when she sat down with Tarico and kind
of admitted, Yeah, where we were at right now and
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this is before they played right If where we're at
right now, she would have been on the team. She
would have been a good fit. What she brings et cetera.
In hindsight twenty twenty. And you watched it the first
couple of games right open shots, and but for a
couple more Belgium makes on wide open shots, maybe you've
got a little bit of a different story. Because remember
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in esc hit that three point shot with what three
seconds remaining because there was gonna be a shot clock violation,
otherwise tossed it up nothing but net. Uh So that
helps in the stats. It all counts in this in
the wash, but that they've been ineffective as a five
person group thus far doesn't show because you still have
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a double digit win. So unless you watched it all,
you're you're only gonna get the highlights of what Stuart
and Wilson did right and that final shot, Oh and
there was the kapper, Like never mind what happened for
the rest.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Of the time on that court.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's like it's the exact opposite of most movies you
see right now. Wow, it was really good for the
first hour and forty five minutes and then it fell apart.
They couldn't land the play.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
Right.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
How many movies do you walk out of going boy,
I was really into it and then boy, that really
killed me. Right the last couple of years have been
some horror movies that people love and I'm like, yeah,
I like seventy percent of it, and then it fell apart.
Kind of the game here have been the opposite. So yeah,
it's Clark would have solved a lot of ills, but
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decision making and someday maybe we'll get the actual truth
right truth serum, because we've gotten snippets from the she
won't play enough minutes so people will be made and
their history together. Coach Reeve and her comments and tweets
and everything else, both for the WNBA side of it
(30:30):
and for the Olympics side of it has not been
a help to you at all. So yeah, all of
that somewhere will get the documentary from Netflix or whoever.
A couple of years from now, when everybody wants to
speak freely.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I would just rather they did a prets conference and
I'm not answering any more questions. I'm gonna hold my
breath until you stop. Then we just see that for
like twenty seconds.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
I can't fall a good strategy. If that's the thing
that's gonna let you do it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
You know, time now to find out what's trending from
a guy who can hold his breath for over five minutes, really,
Steve de Seger, Sure, I've seen him do that plenty
of time. No.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Actually, Kate Winslet is still the champion in that category.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Up Dating the Olympics, US women's basketball defeated Belgium eighty
seven to seventy four. It was a four point American
lead in the third quarter. Breanna Stewart with twenty six
points the US women since nineteen eighty four in the
Olympic Games seventy one and one. Simone Biles took the
Olympic all around gold in gymnastics. She was in third
place halfway through, but finished strongly today on the beam
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and the floor exercise. This was Bile's sixth career Olympic
gold and ninth medal overall. She's the first female gymnast
to win nine career Olympic medals since Nadiya Komenich. Katie
Ladeki won her thirteenth career medal, a silver in the
four x two hundred relay. Today, Australia took gold. Ladeki
could be in the eight hundred meter final on Saturday.
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Ladeki is the most decorated American female Olympian of all time,
and she could be in the Olympics again in four years.
In Los Angeles, American Kate Douglas took gold in the
two hundred meter breaststroke. US women's fencing won gold in
Team Foyle, and the US won gold in men's four rowing.
Hideki Matsuyama leads the men's golf in France by two
strokes after the first round over Xanderschoffley of the US,
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who's defending gold medalists. Titans wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins will
miss about four weeks with a knee injury. Seahawks quarterback
Gino Smith is out indefinitely with reported knee and hip injuries.
He's missed two straight practices. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert will
be in a walking boot for about two weeks after
a foot injury. He is expected to return to play
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in September. The NFL's Hall of Fame Game, the exhibition opener,
was tonight. The Bears beat the Texans twenty one seventeen,
but in Kanton, Ohio, the game ended due to bad
weather late in the third quarter. The World Series is
due to start October twenty fifth, but could begin earlier
if both LCS series end in five games or less.
Light night in Major League Baseball, Colorado got a two
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run homer in the top of the ninth to tie
and beat the Angels in ten innings, five to four.
Angel outfielder Mike Trout is out for the year after
another meniscus tear. He'll have a second knee surgery this year.
He's in the sixth season of a twelve year contract.
Trout has played a total of one game after the
All Star break in three of the last four seasons.
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The Cubs, with three runs at the bottom of the ninth,
beat Saint Louis five to four. Atlanta over Miami four
to two, the win to Charlie Morton. The Braves hit
three homers for Kansas City, Bobby Witt Junior with his
twentieth homers seven to one. Royals won at Detroit, winning
pitcher Seth Lugo thirteen and five ERA down to two
point five to seven as he went eight innings for Casey,
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and it was Cleveland over Baltimore ten to three, so
the Orioles now tied with the Idole Yankees for first
in the Al East. Anthony Santander did hit his thirty
second homer. But for the Guardians, who won seven of nine,
Jose Ramirez with his twenty eighth homer, he has ninety
RBIs back to you.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Well, Steve, now are you probably does Anthony Santander have
a home run in every game this season?
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I believe that's the case. I mean, I feel like
still hitting him aout two thirty five.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Well, hey, every White Socks lost every game?
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Yeah, also true, yes, but if every night you go
one for four or one for five, but that one
hit is a home run where that works out.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
So don't give him up on those fantasy teams.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
He's like the Dave Kingman of the MLB this year.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
My goodness, I feel like every night you tell me
Anthony Santander at a home of Coursey.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
If only the Orioles could make him pitch, they'd be
going somewhere.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
Thanks buddy.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
We'll talk to you the Jason Smith Show with Mike
Carmon Live the tirec dot Com Studios.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Coming up next.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
We had a big NFL quarterback injury today that hit
us out of the blue. We break it down next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You know, we go from remedy and I tell that
amazing story and now I get running up that hill.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Ah, that's just how it goes. That's just ho. You
know what.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
That's for making fun of the Bears with your actually
and maybes, because everything hang on.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
Steve Desager was the one who said, hey, you know,
the Bears actually are winning tonight.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
That wasn't me, that was the Sager.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
Have you taught Zoe that you know, the term actually
is not actually not always is what you think it is.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Actually, this term isn't always what.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
You think it would be exactly one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Live from the
Tirac dot Com Studios. And uh, look, we had a
big injury in the NFL today that kind of took
us by surprise. Justin Herbert is going to be out
for at least the next couple of weeks, probably longer.
Planner fascia in his right foot. It was diagnosed after
practice a day ago. Chargers put out a statement on
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it tonight and uh, after a couple of weeks in
a walking boot. He's going to slowly be reintroduced into
being able to take snaps to get back on the
practice field. The Chargers are hopeful and expect him to
be ready by week one. Anytime you hear that, you
know that's.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Up in the air. Well he's exciting to be back
for the season.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
No, that statement, I'd underline like nine words and it's like,
what are you really telling me?
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, that's like when I would go out at night
and my mom would say when be back? So I
expect you to be back by by one. I'm like,
you can expect me to be back by one if
you want, but I'll be home around two. Okay, I'll see.
You can expect all you want, but this is the reality.
And look the bottom When I say the bottom line,
is this right? Because I've talked many times about how
(36:37):
I'm not gonna be surprised if Justin Herbert is on
the trading block or traded next spring. He's a quarterback
that Jim Harbaugh inherited with a big contract that hasn't
lived up to it the last three years. He's got
a big he's on a big three year decline. Three
years ago, phenomena looked like he was gonna be one
of the top five quarterbacks in the game. Not as
great the last couple of years. Harball's putting in an
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offense that is going to definitively put a lot of
attention on the running game.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
He's gonna build an offense like he built at Michigan.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
We're gonna run the football a ton and bringing in
a couple of running backs from Baltimore that hopefully can
stay healthy. I'm not going out to get really good
wide receivers. We're gonna go in with Lad McConkie and
Quentin Johnston and Charlie Joyner and John Jefferson.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
That's how we're gonna do it this year.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
So you already have Justin Herbert into a year in
which he's inherited by Jim Harbaugh. And if he has
another down year, yeah, guess what trading block it's gonna happen.
They'll want to get out from under that contract. Some
team is gonna think Justin Herbert is great. We'll give
you some first round picks for him, and Harbaugh can
go get his own quarterback. You know, eventually he wants
his own quarterback, right just the moves he has made
(37:42):
since he's gotten to LA, you can tell that now
maybe this is gonna be something that might be a
fit for this year between the two of them, and
after that it's gone. So you know, Herbert's got to
have a big year, and now he's gonna start at
a deficit. While he's been able to run in OTAs
and minie camps and get used to the offense, He's
not gonna have the big reps here, not gonna have
the big reps of the joint practices. When when when
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you really get into it and get chemistry with your players,
when you're when you're going through big, padded practices. So
he's going to hit the beginning of the season whenever
he plays with a deficit, and they open up with
a couple of winnable games, but you take Justin Herbert away,
how easy are those games to win? Your second two
games of the year are really tough. So suddenly this
playoff season by the Chargers is thrown into all kinds
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of chaos and the possibility this could be the end of.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Justin Herbert in LA. That's a real thing. Man.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Wow, you know you've gone to h What is it
def Con one's the worst, right, Uh, yeah, the worst? Yeah,
So I mean you've gone full deaf Con one. That
Harbaugh comes in and not only is he not living
up to the billboards along the four oh five uh
south towards Long Beach and they're in between all of
the accident attorneys, uh, but that it's all gone to
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hell and you've got the flaming dumpster fire behind us
to wearing Justin.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Herber sold off for parts.
Speaker 4 (39:02):
I mean that's what you're doing here. Look, I'm curious,
like all off season, very curious of what the offense
would become in a horriball world. Right, the balance and
bringing in the old Ravens running backs hoping that they're
they're up to to snuff and healthy, uh, to create
balance with a wide receiving core. That's not top shelf, right,
(39:24):
it was gonna get your popcorn moment. But now we
look at this injury. That statement is really disturbing, right,
all the wishing and wanting and hoping that that is
not what you want. It's he we expect, not that
you could put a timeline on it, but this is
so nebulous. I'm already getting ready for all right, It's
(39:44):
Dugan versus Eastern Stick. Make it quick, let's go.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
And DJ Max Duggan returns to a starting job for
the first namely done since he was a TCU DJ. Look,
this is not going to be suddenly where I think
he will lose his job this year. It will be
let's go through the whole year and then we're gonna move.
We're gonna go get our quarterback sometime in the off season,
especially if.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
We're gonna wins the Minnesota job eating JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
He'd make that trade right now. Hey, you want to
Herbert from McCarthy, I'll do it right now. Let's do
it right now, let's have it.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Let's have it.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Go Twitter, how about a Fresca Mike and Swollen Dome
come up next, My buddy Ben Mallor.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
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