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August 21, 2024 40 mins

In Hour 4 of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, the guys open the hour with an observation on the MLB's pace of play. Then they get into a quote from Jerry Jones on the CeeDee Lamb contract situation and discuss what it tells us about the state of the Cowboys. In honor of National Radio Day, the guys take a few minutes to reminisce about the past 10 years of the show, along with their overall time in the industry. Finally, Jason closes out the show explaining why the 49ers piss him off.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Buying should be.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
I got that big football story coming up in a
couple moniscaus. Boy.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Every day that goes by, it just gets more fun
and more stressful for the Dallas Cowboys. But just something
that hit me watching this game, the last game we're
watching tonight, the Mariners and the Dodgers. Right, they're tied
at three apiece and this game is in the bottom
of the eighth inning. The Dodgers are threatening. They have
two on two out. This game is approaching the three

(01:15):
hour mark.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, like baseball should be.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
This is how good pace of play has been for
the game. I give Rob Manford a lot of flat
because he's a horrible commissioner, but he makes up for
it with but he makes up for being a bad
commissioner with a lot of bad ideas. However, this idea
of pace of play has really worked because I'm watching
this game and again, we're in the bottom of the eighth.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
We're just getting up to three.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Hours, not even there. We're still a few minutes shy
of three hours. And it's ti Oscar Hernandez bobblehead.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It is. It is.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, and this game feels like it's a four and
a half hour game. It's been going on forever and
just needs to end, like one of those Sunday night
Baseball Yankee Red Sox games. It starts at seven and
ends at eleven thirty like that, Like that's when when
a game gets to be close to three three hours. Now,
it feels like this game is too long. We've been
watching it for it needs to end. It's too long.
This baseball is too long. So in just a couple

(02:07):
of years. We've gotten used to the new way so
fast that when a game just gets back too close
to what it's old length used to be, it's no,
this is too long. You can't have this anymore. Now
in the playoffs, are we gonna get a little bit
longer games, Yeah, but you're also talking about paying attention
to one game at a time, or shoot games, and
not an entire slate of games.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
But when you add the gravity of those games or whatever,
a little bit of extra baseball and extra moves.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
This game's had nine pitchers.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, it's it feels it feels like it's this game
is going so slow.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
It's just absolutely dragging and it needs to end.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And I say this, and Jason Hayward goes deep for
a three run home but that to give the Dodgers
a six to three lead in the bottom of the eighth.
So you've spoken into exhibiting. We're gonna finish a round.
You're welcome, everybody, You're welcome, baseball fan. I was looking
for free baseball.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I was hoping we'd be saying, coming up next to
our show, I am, and we'd be able to say,
all right, we took him right through it.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I am the Alpha and Omega. I ended this game.
I ended this game right now.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I'd make the saying sports radio Jesus, I already claim
that I ended this game.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
I'm trying to pull this stuff. You did what I
ended it? No, how long is Jason Heyward? How long
does it take you to regenerate?

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Pretty fast, short period, but yeah, I mean it's just
goes forever.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
These games are just and now if okay, and we've
gotten used to the two and a half hour pace
or the two forty pace, and when when you get
out of oh my god, this game is still going on.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It's like it's not even ten o'clock.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Chris Sale doesn't seem so special any like once upon
a time it was this guy gets the.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Ball and he deals, he cuts up jerseys and he
gets after him. Now he's just a guy, and he's
gonna win the cy young, but he's just a guy. So,
because the pace of play has been so radically altered
across Major League base except for nights.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Like tonight, and you look at it, it's not like
there's a lot of walks, so you know that usually
is one thing in the box scoder. We got four
and now we only get we got eight walks. So
that walks, I mean that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot.
Now the pitching changes will kill you. Miller went four,
and that's the thing for the Dodgers that you just
keep you got. I'm sorry Bueller went tonight. He went

(04:23):
for Miller.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
On the other side, he only goes four starting pitching man.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
This goes back to the Ferguson Jenkins thing we had
with John Palmer Rossi earlier in the show. You're You're
at your leader in the clubhouse. Right now among active
pitchers has twenty six justin Verlander, Friggy Jenks is over
two fifty two of you certain records.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are not getting broke.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
No no, no, no, or being approached by a composite
league alone individual pictures at this point.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
So again, Dodgers up now six to three over the
Mariner's bottom of the eighth. The Mariners, once prom season
continuing to spiral downward into oblivion. Uh. The Dallas Cowboys
need to know and what the team needs to know,
what fans need to know, but the NFL needs to know.
No news is bad news, right, everything is usually no

(05:16):
news is good news. No no news is bad news.
Every day we get a story slash update on the
contract situations of Dak Prescott and Cdee Lamb. Dak Prescott,
who's looking for sixty million dollars a year, Ceedee Lamb,
who wants a new deal, holding out or holding in,
holding out, holding away, not with the Dallas Cowboys. And

(05:37):
Jerry Jones gave an interview today in which he talked
about the status of cd Lamb and I'm gonna I'm
gonna read you what he said. I'm gonna say what
he said. I'm gonna say it like Jerry Jones, so
you understand the absolute word salad that Jerry Jones is
giving now when he's asked about these two players.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Okay, here we go.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
So he gets asked, hey, are you optimistic there will
be a deal, and Jerry Jones said, well, I think
I am. And when I say that, it doesn't sound
too promising. Facts are that I believe we'll come together.
I don't want to speak for him, That's what I'm
trying not to do. But we wouldn't have offered him
what we offered him if we didn't want him to
be here. Now, I don't mean that to be insensitive

(06:18):
to our fans or to CDP. But we're in good
shape there and we're having promising talks. You say, well,
why do you keep talking? Why don't you do something again?
Is in anything it takes both of you there at
the same time. So Jerry Jones started that by saying
it doesn't sound too promising, but then says, we're having
promising talks. Okay, I'm gonna throw in tomatoes and avocado

(06:42):
and egg and egg whites and this word salad.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
You're gonna love it. This is outstand owt outwardly.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
You don't think it's too promising because we're just you know,
it's just reports and your favorite reporters getting out there
and saying we're having these conversations. I assure you, we
are having these conversations and we are actually progressing. But yeah,
it's a bunch of nothing, like for this point, for
the forty nine ers, for the Cowboys, I don't want

(07:10):
to hear about imminently traded or you know, signing is imminently.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Just let me know what it happens. Wake me up
when that.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Happened, Like the Naked Eyes saying promises, promises.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, so you know.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah. I mean Ary can used to say, no good
news is with Gary Canoe. That was great space coaster. Yeah,
me watched that when I was a kid. Look at
that empty headed was a guy with the air going out.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Of his ears. What was the question was, i'mst going back.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
It was about the seed of Lamb and the uh
right and whether you're gonna get a deal done.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Look, the Lamb kid is now. Look there's no news.
There's no news. This is not news. But yet Jerry Jones,
there's there's no progress, there's no nothing right. The Cowboys
like both of these guys right now, at this number
where they're at right now, they are more than comfortable
with Dak Prescott hitting free agent and see and they
don't want to extend ceed Lamb if for some crazy

(08:03):
ass reason. Dak Prescott says, fine, I want to be
a cowboy so much, I'll take way less money. I'll
take forty million a year. Jerry Jones said, all right,
well let's sign that deal right now. Same thing with
Ceede Lamb. But Jerry Jones has told you I don't
want to do it. He's he's okay putting the season
at risk because he doesn't want to give money to

(08:24):
Dak Prescott and Ced Lamb. There's lots of guys that
want money. We told you the two playoff losses last
two years broke Jerry Jones. They're going into this season
now you don't have Ced Lamb, and who knows what
kind of seasons he's gonna have now because he's gonna
have to rush to get himself back in shape to
get ready to go. They're gonna say he's all ready
to go Week one, and then he's gonna tweak a

(08:45):
hamstring or a caf and be in and out of
the lineup, because that's how it goes with everybody who
sits out of camp and doesn't play. The Cowboys fans
are gonna be mad. Dak Prescott is mad because his
number one receiver is not here, a guy that he's
got to have a good around to have a good
year so he can get sixty million dollars a year
next year. Whether it's from the Cowboys or somebody else,
the Cowboys are going into this year.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I don't even know how you get excited.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
If there's any level of excitement for this, it's Jerry
Jones has said, I am going to sacrifice and punt
on twenty twenty four and if you don't believe me,
I'm sorry you don't believe me, but I am okay
sacrificing it. There's no thing going back and forth. There's
no talk about optimism. If the two sides were close,
they would say something, because Jerry Jones would love to

(09:27):
be able to hey, we got we got a great
deal with Dak coming up.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
Dax.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
People would love to say, hey, everybody, this is gonna
get taken care of. And I'm the same thing with
Ceedee Lamb. The Cowboys are okay, and Jerry Jones is
okay opening the season under controversy and players missing and
wondering how the hell we're gonna put together some kind
of year when our owner didn't go after any players
in the offseason and is just throwing us all back
out there, hoping to run it back, and we're gonna

(09:52):
be just as good, if not better, than we were
a year ago, which doesn't happen. If you don't improve,
you can't run it back. If you win the Super Bowl,
you can run it back. I knew the Sean mcvagh
run it back, right. You can run it back when
you win the super Bowl. You can't run it back
if you don't win the super Bowl, and the Cowboys
were four steps away from winning the super Bowl. This
is just what it's going to be. And now this

(10:13):
has gone from Hey, what's gonna happen after this year?
Are we gonna have Dak Prescott or we're gonna have
cdee Lamb to whoa, whoa whoa. Now people are just
coming around to what's this year gonna be like? Because
the quarterback's not happy, the star wide receivers not happy,
the two of the three most important players on the
team alongside Michael Parsons, these guys are not happy, and
one of them is not even in camp. What kind

(10:35):
of year are we really gonna have? Forget about next year?
If you have the offseason, Hey, what's gonna happen when
we hit the field for the first time. We're gonna
go out like we did last year, motivated and beat
the crap out of the Giants forty to nothing and
send Daniel Jones spiraling again downward into oblivion. That's not
gonna be the Cowboys this year. This year can be
so ugly right away, And that's just the way it's

(10:56):
moving yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
But the bigger question is what did Cedee Lamb mean
when he posts the picture of Toby maguire as Spider
Man in the black suit from Spider Man.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Three Spider Man.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
It means even Spider Man, I'll tell you what I
think this is, even Spider Man had to change uniforms
at some point or costumes because well that was the
plotline because he had the black costume, which kind took
him over. It's kind of like Venom. But his point
is is that, hey, you're used to Spider Man in
this one costume and it was Venom. But yeah, yeah,
it's okay. Well people that watch the Venom movies don't

(11:29):
understand that. So I wanted to, but they didn't. But
they didn't go full with it, No, they didn't. Spider Man,
Joe for Gray sucked. Ceedee Lamb's been a cowboy his
whole career. But maybe you're gonna see him in a
different uniform because if Spider Man can change uniforms, see
Ricky Bobby, if you win, If Spider Man can change
uniforms and it's still Spider Man, Ceedee Lamb can change

(11:50):
uniforms and it's still seed It as long as he
could do that cool Toby Maguire walk what he was.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
You've all seen the meme, you know exactly what I'm saying.
It was the one where the point when does a
little dance and he's you know, winking and nodding it
all the ladies.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, when Cameron Brike was living across the hall from
him pretty much.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, no, that's it, and then looking at him like
he was crazy.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But yeah, all of that, I know, I like, I
like that theory. That's good. Yeah, hears my super suit.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Even Spider Man changes his costume, even ceed Lamb.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Right, how many how many guys have said, well, you know,
other people have had to go on the quarterbacks I
grew up on have gone and played in other uniforms. Right,
We've had that from Dak and from other people along
the way, recognizing the rules of engagement, especially as you
get on with your career, that sometimes the dollars just
don't make sense. And for CD Lamb, evidently they still

(12:46):
have a bridge that they need to cross. I don't
know if you can build a web strong enough to
get your cross.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Those last couple of billions tell you things.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Things are just going this way for the cowboys and
and I I observe this, and I go, Okay, there's
a faction of people like you and I that understand
sure that this is going to hell. Like you're on
You're You're in Toy Story four and you're in that
You're in that slow ride to the fire.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Hey, we're all gonna burn, right. I mean, I want
to say, here's how you save it.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
You give these two guys the money, and you say,
I love you, Micah, but you gotta go.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Look, some people understand, like you and I. That's where
the cowboyds are going. Yeah, some people don't want to
understand it and think, no, no, Jerry Jones is gonna find it.
Some people are going to say, at the last minute,
everything's gonna get solved, everything's gonna be great.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
And then there's some who just don't want to believe
it's happening. Yeah, Like.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
I lean towards the middle only for the he's gonna
see he's finally gonna have his feet in the fire
and he's gonna get singed.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
See how we pulled it all together there.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
No, he's in Spider Man and Toys Story with the
with the with the one bear that smelled like Raspberry.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
You know, sure, hey, you leave lots of hugging bear
out of this.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I couldn't think of his that he smelled like strawberry
or Raspberry could have done it, but that. But there's
different penis front different people. Yeah, well, well yeah, that's
a big thing now.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
People like to put bears on the front of cards.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
But but there's like three groups of in the media
and athletes and analysts and fans that I'm telling you.
Jerry Jones has been saying, oh, this is what I'm doing.
If you don't want to believe me, that's not my
that's the problem is you. We got thirty years of
him doing the opposite.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
I know, I'm old, I know, I know.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Run away.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
It's like it's like it's like if you grew up
with your with a dad who didn't want to discipline
you or because for whatever reason, and after you get
away with a lot of stuff, finally your dad's like
you do the wrong. Your dad's just like, okay, you
know what, don't make me come back there now. You
can't go to the dance on Friday, and your home
all weekend and all week long. Right the kids are

(14:52):
hanging around telling his friends. Yeah, my dad's and I
can't go, but i'll see you pick me up at seven.
Everything's fine, I'll see you there. I'll go out after
then Saturday we'll go to the beach. Right, These are
the NFF and saying, ah, it's not really gonna happen,
and the dad is Jerry Jones keeps telling the kid
all week, you're not going to the dance on Friday.
Yeah whatever, Dad, I know whatever. Yeah, sure that I'll
be out late Friday night. Dad, I'll be home at

(15:13):
like two. No, you're gonna be here Friday night and
you're not going to the beach shadow Yeah, yeah, no.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
And the week is going on and.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
He's making plans, making plans, and Dad's like okay. And
then Friday night comes and Dad said, you're not going anywhere,
and he stands in front of the door. Go to
your room, and you're finally gonna understand that you have
to obey me or you can't do bad things. And
I don't know what that point is gonna be. For
fans and analysts and players go, oh, Jerry Jones really

(15:40):
really meant that. Well, times can't believe he really meant
he wasn't gonna cave to Dak Prescott, and he wasn't
gonna cave to see he live. I didn't see it
coming because for thirty years he had said. Then I
know we got guys. Get forget it. Here's your money.
I could never stay mad at you. Here you go, Zeke.
You take all this money and just go suck for
the next couple of years. Then we'll get rid of you.

(16:01):
Then we'll bring you back and I'll pay you no money.
When you're twenty nine years.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Old fighting for reps with Rico Dawdle as you're starting.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Duze Fawn, don't forget duce Wan. Last year everybody loved
Duze won last year.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Buddy. Come on, man, we m you tell everybody.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Loved to tell him not to fall from the love
Dawn love due fun.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Duzevaun is four eleven. He's not gonna can't carry the
football all this time.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
He's an exciting player, but come on, man, you can't
start him in fantasy.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Come on, you can't do that.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Then it went from he can't beat your number one
back to you can't start that guy in fantasy.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
You just jumped straight across that bridge.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
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Speaker 2 (16:51):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
Got another big story out of the NFL one Super
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Speaker 2 (17:54):
Do you take the balabushka with him?

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (17:57):
What do you let um leave with the balabushka?

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Happy National Radio Day, Big day our industry is. We're
celebrating things. Mike Harmon's got big loud noises coming off
these look Mike and I and all of us here
at Fox Sports Radio love bringing you the content we
do every single day here, and it's it's just a blast.

(18:21):
You know. I talked about this earlier in the show,
and you know, I can only remember really one day
where I thought, maybe, you know, one day in my
entire career, I thought, you know, I've got sports talk radio. God,
if I could quit today, I would. But overall, this
has really been the only thing I ever wanted to
do since college. Once I got the radio bug at

(18:44):
Syracuse at Z eighty nine and doing the morning show there,
and I was like, this is this is what I want.
And I've I've been fortunate enough to be able to
do this for a long time. I've also hey along
the way dovetail into oh I got to do TV
right and all that.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
But This has been the only thing I've ever really.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Wanted to do, and I still love coming in every
night and doing this show with you and doing it
ten years now. It's so much fun and we never
take any of it for granted, and it's just it's
just a blast to be able to do this for
four hours a night. And you think four hours is
a lot, Well, Mike and I go home and go, oh,
we could have done this. We could have done this,
we could have done that. There's always things we feel
like we could do more of, and it's it's just

(19:22):
an absolute blast to be able to do this every
single day.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
No, it's fun kicking stories around during the day, and
certainly when we're here and bad things happen to our teams,
they become part of the show and it becomes an
on air therapy session slash take out the vitriol of
your own lives, whatever's going on at your workplace, whatever's
going on in your home. You can laugh at us

(19:46):
and it makes you feel better for a minute, or
you can miserate with us in that moment. It's a blessing.
Across nearly five hundred now, I mean, what's the official number.
I think we got to go to getting ready to
flip that. I saw some things and need the socials
all of that, and we appreciate each and every one
of the markets global. We get some notes from across
the oceans and the sands of time. So I mean,

(20:08):
it's cool as hell. And I see some of the
the memories that pop up right and you know, different
social media platforms, and and you think back, like, wow,
that was already seven years ago.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Wow, that was cool.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
We were on air for this, We were on air
for that. So many big moments, big games.

Speaker 4 (20:24):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
And it's always an honor to share that and go
through those in real time and then get up and
do it again. How do you top at the show
the night before?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (20:34):
The you know, look, I always people say to me, hey,
are there any days you don't want to go into work?
And I always say, well, you know, generally, when someone dies,
that's always a tough show because, you know, how do
you have a celebration of someone's life when when they die,
especially if they's someone who died young, it's it's it's
really difficult that that that's a difficult part. But now

(20:54):
I've been doing it for a you know, for a while,
I understand that. Okay, you know, how how can we
talk about this and talk about remember good things and
and and and be that, because look, people don't want
to turn on and just and just be depressed about stuff.
And then you just started thinking about boy, you know
when someone asked me not too long ago, so oh,
you know you ever have days I want to win?
And I remember this one day where I got and
And the thing is I can I can speak in

(21:15):
general terms of this, is that when everybody at ESPN
Radio that.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Worked at nights was really mad.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Right, So there's like three shows that were on at night,
and it was you know, the morning she was it
was Mike and Mike and then it was Colin and
Dan Patrick, and then it was uh Sports Bash in
the afternoon with Eric Cacilius was yeah, and then it
was you know, so he's on four to seven but
really seven to ten, and then it's It's Game Night,
which was John Cybel and Freddie Coleman and and and

(21:43):
Doug Gottlieb, and then I did all night after.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
So this is back.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
This is the only and and and this is the
only time I actually said to one of my superiors
if you want my job, you can have it.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
If you do that, you can have it. Right.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
But I was again, sometimes I speak and I should
not say things. But uh, we were working radio. We've
all done that when five times what I mean, I
mean like off the air to people. No, we've all
done that at least five times this week. This is
back when Barry Bonds is gonna break the all time
home run record. Okay, so he's closing in on on
Hank Aaron seven fifty five. And we had a boss

(22:17):
that I'm like that this okay, this guy, I can
tell a lotus, but I'm just gonna tell you this.
So he said, he comes in. We haven't meet.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
He's meeting like with all of us because he's in
charge of the night program. He says, I, you know,
it's just what you know, you know, Bonds.

Speaker 1 (22:29):
Is at seven fifty two, seven fifty three, you know
we're getting there seven fifty five. When he hits to
be big seven fifty six, obviously it's gonna be the
big one. And you know what it's it's probably gonna
happen on our watch. And I looked at him and
I said, they play games at night, Okay, unless it
happens on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon, which you don't
have to worry about.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
You know, we're not working. Of course it's gonna happen
when we're on the air. Like I'm like, what do
you like?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
Said, well, yeah, it's gonna happen. We're on the air
because of games are night. If it's Monday through Friday night,
it's gonna happen one of our shows are on the air.
But I said it in such a way where I
was like, well, yeah, we're gonna be on him, like
this guy is my boss. This guy is my boss. Right.
So then he says, okay, just so you know, we're
trying to figure out how we're gonna handle it, what
we're gonna do with it, Like are we gonna do something?
We're gonna go live to it when he when he's
up to break a record, are we gonna do it?

(23:17):
So all these different things we can do because major
League Baseball you can't really go live to games because
they are the right.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
One They will actually fight you on right, So why
you get dramatic reenactments thirty seconds after something happened.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
So so he's like, I'll let you guys know what
it's what it's gonna be. So're like, okay, great, So
he comes in. So he comes in and he and
he's I forget who else is in the room? Was?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I definitely me and my producer. Maybe there's a couple
other talent there. I forget.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Now I'm going back like this is almost twenty years
ago because Barry Barry Bonds did it win a five?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
Right? A four?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
A five?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
He broke the record.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Anyway, so he says, so we're still trying to figure
out how to do it. Uh, we can't go live
to it, but we'll be able to. He's saying a
couple of things we can and can't do, right, So
what happens the night he breaks the record? We're not
gonna be able to go live to it. We have
a couple of these guests set up to talk after.
I think there was like Willy Mays was gonna come
on to talk about it.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
And this is what.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Depending what time it is, Willie Mays will come on
and talk. If it's too late, we're gonna have this.
So they set it all up, right, this is a
big deal. Will William Mays and or whoever it was
was gonna come on and then he said and I said, wow,
I said, it sounds like there's a lot of stuff
that go and I goes, oh, man, you wouldn't believe
he was there was even day There was even talk
like it was big debate today, like hey, do we
just bring in like Dan and Colin to you know,

(24:31):
if he breaks the record, you do the shows that night,
like to come in at night and do shows. And
I stopped and I said, if you want to do that,
you can have my job. If you want to bring
in somebody else, somebody from the daytime to do my show,
you can have my job then, And I was like,
should I have said that?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
But I was really pissed.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
I'm like, as you should that, Just really, you're gonna
bring in daytime to come in and say, oh, it's
a big deal, So somebody else got to come in
and do this. One of the daytime hosts has to
come in and do the show. And I'm like, this
is stuff that actually gets thrown round behind closed doors,
like oh my goodness. That's the only time I was
so like, you know, I didn't want to work tonight.
I don't even want to work tonight because I can't
believe that you're really gonna say to me, oh, hey,

(25:09):
by the way, so and so is gonna come in
and do your show tonight, not because you're out or
you're on vacation, but because hey, they're a big Now.
I'm like, oh, so I could do it as long
as it's not nothing big going on. Like I'm like,
and I know that that probably wasn't their intent, but
you got to realize, hey, when a bad idea is
a bad idea?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
B what not to tell talent? You know, no, tell
him that.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
This goes to the conversation we had last night about
to a tongue of Iilaa and Brian Flores. You could think, hey,
this guy sucks. He's not gonna get me over you,
or to a tongue of Iloa in this case, but
you can't say it no, well directly or indirectly by
bringing up, as Flores allegedly did other players. This guy

(25:54):
could be here and he went to the podium today
and said, hey, I learned what did we say yesterday?
He was gonna go to the odium and talk about
how much learning and growing and everything else that he'd done.
But yeah, that that is not a conversation to have
but just germane to the conversation of twenty four hours
ago and what is carried the first part of the

(26:15):
sporting week of how do you deal with talent on
the athletic field, in the corporate office or on the radio. Yeah,
you gotta be a little smarter about the temperate because
we all have egos, right, we all sit in these
chairs or you sit behind the desk and you think,
maybe rightly so maybe Rodley, that you're the smartest guy

(26:38):
in the room. So to have it implied that hey,
you're not big enough for this moment blank that I
was so and I'd say the same thing now for
all those guys as they.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Get there of hey, you know Colin and Dan or whoever,
these are our big stars and they okay, so have
him as a okay, but think about is it really
worth it? I mean, feel more people are going to
tune in Barry Bonds breaks the record? Are you not
going to tune Are you going to tune in if
Barry Bonds breaks the record? And but if I'm doing
the show, you're not. But if Dan or Collins doing

(27:09):
the show, you aren't. You're tuning in because Barry Bonds
broke the record. What's going to be said, Oh, hey,
this is kind of you. I get the I get
the thought process of hey, this is kind of cool
to do this, But at the same time, it's like, wow, really,
I mean, ESPN did enough of saying these three shows
are just hey, you guys, you guys are on the air,
These three shows are all we want to talk about,

(27:31):
right that would that was a whole big thing they
would always do is always Mike and Mike and Colin
and Dan was always hey, these three shows and and
and they kind of do it. And it was awesome
because they were able to do whatever they wanted to
go out.

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Team at a big sporting event. This guy, this guy,
and the rest and and and I get that.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
And I'm like, I completely understand that, right, these are
the these are the guys that that that that pushed
the money, that that make a lot of money, these
guys that have been in the business for a long No.
I completely get that, But I'm like, wow, like, like,
do you really need to go to that extent.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
To say, Okay, hey, this is what we think of
you guys, Like it's insane. I'm like, okay, and I was,
and I had a couple other people say, oh you
said I heard you say that.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Thanks. I was like, yeah, oh, I don't get fired.
They don't go out. He is the one to work.
You can no, no, no. But you didn't throw out
a hey, blank that guy.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Like if you single that one of those guys, I said,
blank him, blank him, he's cool.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
I did not hear it. Blank him, he's out.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Like if you picked one of those four that was
cool and the other three that you were, you know,
giving the business, and maybe you would have found yourself
out on your ass. But in this case, it was
just in general of like it's my slot, it's what
we do, and it didn't do you not appreciate what
we do every day because if they're gonna have your
best response, like so if I'm out, you're not producing

(28:51):
that show, right, you're talking about bringing their whole show
in jacket.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I didn't know, like if it happens at seven thirty,
are you gonna pull people off the air like sudden?
Like like what like how is this gonna happen? Like
were they gonna come in and do the shows every
night until he hit the home run? You know what
you can do the show until Willie Mays hits the
warm line. Then you're out, and we're tagging this guy
in from wherever he is on satellite phone. There's a
there's a home. There's a home run by Barri number

(29:19):
seven fifty six. And all of a sudden, like shannons,
someone's walking into the studio.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I gotta go hey.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
He Like in Batman where the joker pushes the mayor off,
there goes Jason Smith.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
He had a good ride. Hi'm that pad. How are
you gonna do that?

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Well?

Speaker 2 (29:33):
How are you gonna do? How are you gonna? I mean, really,
these are some ideas that go out there. It's it's
a man, But I know.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
All of them are well thought out. Tappy National Radio Day,
Radio Day, some good story. I don't know that I've
ever been as frustrated A was in that moment that day.
I don't know why that's gotten because look, I've I've
been part and parcel to so many ideas. I'm like, oh,
that's a good idea. All that idea is terrible just
for being around the business. As long as that that's
a good I idea, that's I've been around a lot

(30:01):
of bad ideas a lot of minutes, but that one,
for some reason, just stuck with me and got me
so you could tell him over it, and he got
so mad that.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
I was like, yeah, you can have it.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
You want?

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Do you want? You want to do that, you can
do like my last thought, I worked that I'll leave,
don't forget my last check. And and I was. I
was so upset about that. It was so mad.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
But you said it up perfectly because while you offered
kind of to quit, you didn't quit.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Actually they would have actually had to fire you, and
then you'd have gotten severed. I didn't walk in like
like the cop in the movie, and here's my gun
and my badge, and I quit, and then I go
investigate the crime on my own right. And then at
the end the the my lieutenant says, hey, good job,
here's your gun in your badge back. While I'm at
my partner's funeral. Hey, sorry he died, but I'm the
hero here in the in the movie. So I get

(30:47):
the gun in the badge back. I'll take care of
his widow, you know, all.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
The stuff everything else.

Speaker 1 (30:55):
That's how the end of all the cop movies go
ceremonial in the bag. I've said everything. They filled the
flag and hand it.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure that's how it goes.
They went down a deep dark path there.

Speaker 5 (31:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I thought we got you back up here.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
You were living down here when you were having that memory,
and I thought I chuckled you out of there and
then you would bright back in.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I'm here, you know, like a roller coaster with another
dip you didn't expect. Why is it in the movie?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Every every movie, every hero cop has like a young
family that's wife and young kids. Like no hero cops
are just hey, guy, I had a girlfriend, but that's it,
you know, didn't really, I know, she felt weird about
coming to the funeral, so she didn't show.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Up like everyone. Oh no, no wife family all is
oh making me up to welcome.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
In the movies, Yeah, he's got a girl, had a
lot of girlfriends, had a lot of girlfriends, gonna show
up here, and yeah it could be a fight after
it's over.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Look, it's all the sets of movie. We need to write.
It's all the same movie. What happened?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Well, oh boy, so happy nationality? Know, you know, open
investigation as to how the guy died. Oh yeah, you
got everybody fighting for his attendance. It would be the
lieutenant who you thought was your friend would be the
guy that really was running something really illegal.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
And that's how you get you trying to get one
of your many girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Yeah, oh well one of the no, one of the
girlfriends would help you turn him in and then suddenly
you become the item with her at the end. That's
how that would be right there. Yeah, here's the rat,
Harvey Kaitel. Find out what's trending right now from Brian Fendley.
He's got it all right now.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Jason, you talk about what it was like and potentially
getting pulled from a radio show because of a home run,
And I can't imagine what they would have done if
they saw what Jason Hayward did tonight and what they
would have done your show with that three run home
run he hit in the eighth inning.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, it was the the Dodgers are relying on. Really,
you went a long way for that segue.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
I really thought this would be you would have gotten
yourself fired for your excited veterances after Neimo dropped the ball.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's what I thought was coming. I thought you guys
would appreciate the transition there. Oh you got a home running, Yeah,
I was trying to.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
Obviously, it was a little bit of a stretch because
it was just a single Jason Hayward home run, which
actually presented a nice benefit to the Dodgers prospects tonight.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
They went on to win in a three.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Hour plus game, which, as you guys were talking about,
that is a rare breed these day. Six to three
Dodgers over the Mariners, so they maintain, of course, their
first play standing in the NL West, and they have
a three game lead over the San Diego Padres at
this stage and a four game lead over the Arizona
Diamondbacks in the division. Speaking of the Padres, they also

(33:43):
got a three run home run in the eighth inning,
like the Dodgers did, but Jerkson Profar did it and
it was a seven to five win for the Padres
over the Twins, thanks in large part to profar As
proficiency down the stretch. Red Sox over the Astro six
to five, also wins for the Cubs, the Brewers. The
Braves stifle the Phillies three to one. The Mets they

(34:06):
get beaten down by the Orioles, nine to five, James
McCann hitting a home run against his former employer, And
if we look at how that all shakes out when
it comes to the wild card standing out in the NL.
In the NL, the Padres are at the top, then
the Diamondbacks Braves at that third and final position, and
then the lowly Mets.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Actually, that's probably too strong the playoffs we're talking about.
I was just trying to see what your reaction was.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
Yes, No, lowly would be too extreme.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
They are My team has ninety losses. That is lowly.
That would be lowly.

Speaker 4 (34:43):
That is the definition of yeah in the gutter, in
the duldrums of the standings, but two and a half
games out of that third and final spot in the
wild card. Yes, are the New York Mets a twelve
inning fiesta where the Guardians won it, and they did
it again. It's the Yankees nine to five.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
It's spoiled.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
A forty fifth home run of the season from Aaron Judge.
Also wins for the Diamondbacks and the Rockies, and lastly,
Jason Mike a win for the Giants. I was so
hoping to be able to profess to you, Mike. A
White Sox win but I just I'm not sure if
that's going to happen even once more the rest of

(35:25):
the season.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
It's okay, Thank you, Brian, family appreciate it. I'm at
the acceptance level. Thanks family.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
The Jay for stages of grief. That's right. The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Carmon, Live from the tyrack dot
Com studios. All right, so Happy National Radio Day.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Coming up next the NFL team. It's starting to piss
me off that they're as good as they are. Why
will tell you?

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Fox? Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
seven pm Pacific Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
The Jason Smith Show with My best friend Mike Harmon,
Live from the Tirack dot Com Studio. And I gotta
be honest, sometimes when a team continues to step in it,
it really upsets me that they're as successful as they are.
And I'm at that point with the forty nine ers.
With the forty nine ers, you know you got continued success. Yeah, oh,

(36:18):
roster building. Yes. I'm not saying they don't deserve it.
I'm saying sometimes their their success upsets me.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
I'm ready for a interview.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Can I'd like the twenty five years of the saltiness
towards the towards the Patriots for everything they had gone?

Speaker 1 (36:33):
No, no, no, no no, just look because the forty
nine ers watching them the last five years completely blow
their quarterback situation every single year. They couldn't get it right.
Let's get Jimmy Garoppolo, Let's give them a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
That didn't work.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
Let's keep Jimmy Garoppolo, but let's draft Trey Lance. Trey
Lance is a bust. But they give Trey Lance the
job and say, Jimmy, sorry, you're the backup. Trey Lance
gets hurt and misses the whole season. Jimmy Garoppolo takes
into the NFC Championship game, It's like, oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Then they don't know what to do.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
Do we keep Jimmy, we let Trey Lance go, We
draft Brock Purty as mister irrelevant, and suddenly this guy
who anybody could have had for seven rounds is going
to be a sixty million dollars a year quarterback next year. Right,
So stepping in it when they continue to be so
plotting and deliberate with their quarterback moves Wow, man, that's
like you're talking about living right, okay, But then you

(37:27):
get to this week and it just it baffles me
that teams can make these kind of decisions and it
still works out for them. They play brock Party in
their game this weekend, despite the fact they were missing
three starting offensive linemen. You're playing with a bunch of
backups and none of your first team skilled position players
are playing at all. And Perdy got hit a few times,

(37:49):
played twelve snaps, got hit a few times. It's like, dude,
you're asking for him to get hurt. You put your
franchise quarterback out there behind less than a stellar offensive
line when you're missing three starters the REP and you
put him out there. Seriously, was week two of the
preseason the reg and I'm not saying that I wanted
the guy to get hurt, but it's like, you, you

(38:11):
realize you just put his whole career at stake because
you want to play him in these games again behind
three backups and nobody else.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Are you punishing him for some reason? Like these are.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Decisions that get coaches fired and instead, hey, you the
forty nine ers escape, they got out. Perty's okay, really
they succeed sometimes and they make some of the worst
decisions and it makes me upset because the Jets make
bad decisions and they can't.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Win at all.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
They get punished if we get punished for good decisions. Hey,
let's go get Aaron Rodgers. Nope, not gonna play for
you for a whole year. Well you'll get four snaps,
but that's it.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Okay, great? Can we do the marvel What if with
Aaron Rodgers?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
If he hadn't carried the flag out last week last year, mighty,
it might have gone differently.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Do you think you think he's carrying the flag out
week one? No, they're not happening. No, not happening.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
But with the forty nine ers, part of it is
the old Brady bunch Johnny Bravo. There's a guy that
fits the suit, draft everything else. Right, get a system
in place, I mean, what's your system? As kill Brat
the late GM wants to ask you in a very
aggressive and angry manner like.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
I used to get that way with the Giants, like
they would, but now they've run themselves to the way
they've won those Super Bowls, Yes, but they've run themselves
into disrepair now.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
So I'm okay, okay, the Giants clearly realizing at some
point you got to pay the fight. Hard Knocks.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
I love that digitally everything survives for the fact that
they'll never be able to bury those conversations that were
about Daniel Jones or that phone call with Saquon Barkley
that they okayed, you know, the Bears Hard Knocks, evidently
out of deference to the McCaskey family. No cursing, No okay,
that's why it's a clean hard Knocks and really boring.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
I mean, I've gone from okay the Giants, boy, they
just step in it. No now the but it's a
new year. Get yo, come on exit. How about a
fresco I'm trying, Mike, get swollen dome. Hey, time passages
for all of us here on the show tonight. Coming
up next, my buddy Ben Mallar.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
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