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May 17, 2025 • 40 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon debate if Jalen Brunson has surpassed Patrick Ewing as the greatest New York Knick ever. The Brockalypse is here. And Celtics legend Paul Pierce calls out the Knicks!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Hello, Welcome inside final hour tonight the Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon. So my favorite this
is why, you know, certain reasons in certain days.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I love the internet.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
And last year my favorite and I mean it's something
that I just happened to find.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
My favorite thing on the.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Internet last year was all the fan videos.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
That Mets fans put up of them watching Pete Alonzo
was home running the ninth inning against the Brewers. Right,
the big, biggest, biggest play in baseball last year, Alonzo,
it's the three run homer watching all the fans put
up their own videos from Hey, I'm taking video of
my dad watching this at bat. You know, my party
on Matt watching this at bat. Like I'm just going
through them going, let me see the next one. Let

(01:17):
me see next, let me sit the next one. I
can already tell the Knicks fans videos that are putting
get put up.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
On the internet.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
After tonight's game and the second round win against the Celtics,
this is gonna be my favorite group of videos for
twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I'll tell you that Alonso thing had a lot of
run for you though. I mean there were several days
where I'd come in. You'd be sitting having a little
cup of coffee watching whatever was the game was on,
but on your phone you'd be watching Alonzo videos. Oh yeah,
that was how it seemed like a coping MECHANI or
anything might do in the winter.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah yeah, you got the got the bathtuball ready to go. No,
in the winter, I would drive into work. When the
drive was bad, I would just go to YouTube and
find the how We rose called the Ninth Inning God.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
I remember that.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
That's twenty five minutes of me here on the top
of the ninth the I List. I did that probably
like fifteen times. But the videos that Knicks fans are
putting out tonight are just hysterical. They're idea. Uh we
got one from Barstool Frostburg can you play the uh
play the one from barstool that you just showed me.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I don't know if we could play it, but but
I will. All right, guy, I thank them.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
J Dog, the cal Bridges dog, Josh Hart dog.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
What's you know? This is every video it's eron. There's
the one guy you put out a video going the
only seeing Celtics and see you blanket later like this.
It's amazing all these videos that are that are being
put out. It's like I want to watch all of them.

(02:50):
They didn't bother to grease the poles though these people
were able to climb and yeah, they're bouncing, bounce around
things are gonnad badly. I mean it's what only one o'clock.
I mean, you're not even too two hours and forty
minutes from last call. And those are for the ones
that actually subscribe and and go through the regulations of
shutting down at four. Yeah. See they're not shutting down

(03:10):
at four tonight. Well no, no, no, but that's the you're
in here maybe four nobody else. They don't just don't leave.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
There were nights.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
And from being someone who would go out when when
I graduate siecause when I went to college and I
went to Syracuse, right, the bars are closed too, Okay,
you know, I fy your bars close it too, and
everything else bars closed probably midnight on Sundays. Then I
moved to Connecticut, and I'm like, whoa bars closing? Can't
buy beer on Sunday, Connecticut.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They help Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yeah, And you can't buy beer in Connecticut on Sunday, right,
like they closed up, you can't buy it. Right, But
in New York, New York City and in Staten Island
where I grew up, uh, the bars are open till four.
And there were nights when I would go out with
my when I graduated college and everything, and and I'm
back out. I'm like, we're gonna be till four. This
is awesome. Like I did eight hours at work today
and I want to do eight hours at the bar.

(03:56):
And generally what happened at four o'clock was they never
really close the bar. And again this is this is
I'm not saying. I'm not saying, you know, Jennyson Smith.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Go.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Can't just Elliott nest your way in like it's prohibition.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
But generally at four o'clock, they just wouldn't let anybody
that's right in, right, and then at six they would
start me open again.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, breakfast, Oh you want a mimosa? Okay, after hours,
any guys ready, we're gonna be the shuffle.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
The cook will be here about twenty. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I heard a discussion the other day. Someone was like,
who's drinking at eight o'clock? Oh no, It was a
big discussion because Santa Monica is doing a big vote
here to bring the world closer here, right, global entity
on the iHeartRadio app, Santa Monica famous. You see it
on any broadcast of an LA team. Right, there's the
board walk and everything. Well, they were doing a whole

(04:50):
thing about whether they should extend not only the drinking hours,
but also to have open carry passed unanimously. Yeah that pass.
It's gonna be open carry out prom now, right, so
they but they were looking at financials of it, but
trying to figure it out like that. That's essentially it now,
you know. Now it's the all right, who would stick
around and then be there when a bar would reopen

(05:12):
at eight like all the time? Southside Chicago, that's New York. Yeah,
I'm here now that's everybody realizing, Wait, we've been leaving
money on the table all.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
The first time.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And this is how, this is how I am in
so short a period of time where I was like
out of college, I'm like, yeah, I could do it.
Going out at eight o'clock. Yeah, I'm at a bar
at eight o'clock, four o'clock in the morning. I'm still
going strong. They closed the close the doors. It's sick,
you know everything. I still remember the very first time
I went to a bar. I went with my dad.
I was okay, I was seventeen, and I went to

(05:48):
This is the first time I just went. I went
into a bar, okay. And it was a bar restaurant,
so it wasn't like, you know, it was like you
go in and you could sit and eat, but it
was also a bar. So we go in and and
we're we're at the bar and I'm like okay, and
I you know, I'm drinking coke and diet coke and
everything else. And we going at like one o'clock. And
the thing is we're going to see a Syracuse Chiefs game.

(06:11):
And the game started at six thirty, right, so six
thirty at night, we're gonna walk down to the Chiefs game.
Minor league baby a baseball. It's enough for that well,
here's the thing. So I'm seventeen and this is me
going up to visit Syracuse right to see if I
want to go to college here, right, it's in the
in the summer, and and so we go, we go,
We go to the bar. Weber's was the bar which

(06:32):
became my home bar at one o'clock. And you know,
we go there at one o'clock and my dad see
some of his friends gonna come to g This is
my son, Jason.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Oh, how you doing okay?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
Here? So we're here, and now it's like two o'clock
and I've noticed, you know, my dad had a beer.
And I'm sitting here drinking diet drinking diet coke. And
I'm looking around and I'm going, so, uh, what are
we doing? He goes, well, we're going to the game
at six thirty.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I go, well, are we gonna? What are we gonna
do until then? And he looks at me like I
got nine heads.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
He goes, We're just gonna stay here, And I said,
just gonna sit here for four hours, just gonna sit here.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Then I realized very quickly, oh that's pretty easy to do.
I can sit at a bar for four hours.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
That enough people watching, but enough beers looking at the clock,
and I'm going, what, We're just gonna sit here in
a bar for four hours.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Like we're not gonna go home, We're gonna go to
the movies or something.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Okay, So that you've been in Pandora's box, Yeah, what
did you do for those four hours? And what was
the most entertaining client that you can talk about without
getting them arrested. I drank a lot of die of
coke and I watched the Mets. I said, well, the
Mets are on, so I got okay, the releast did
that something you would have done anyway? Yeah, and you
made Dad happy and he and his buddies have any
secret handshakes or anything. No, they were all very.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Interesting to meet me because they had never met me
before because my parents got divorced, and you know, my
my I live with my mom's family in Staten Island
and my dad in Syracuse, so I would go visit him.
When I go visit him, he wouldn't take me when
I'm younger, he wouldn't take me around the bars.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Like now I'm setting you.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Really missed out. Yeah. I was hung around a lot
of the FW halls as a kid.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, this is Mike Michael Gradey went now fifth, Hey
that's great.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Hey you had to be favorite, going, Hey go grab
me that pack of cigarettes right there.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, but that's it, the horses, I'm running cigarettes. I
was like spider in these places. Yeah, the dance that
drink over to me.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Oh man, so oh boy?

Speaker 1 (08:25):
So yeah, you know, I don't know, Okay, we're gonna
sit at a bar until I remember telling my mom
we did that, and I didn't think it was that
big a deal because I'm still like, yeah, I don't know,
because they they didn't spel it. They didn't have a
great relationship, my mom and my dad. Once I got divorced,
it was kind of like, oh boy, how do I
explain this. It's it's like, you know those couples who
they get divorced, but they understand they need to work together,

(08:47):
they're co parenting. This was the exact opposite. Okay, okay,
there's that. So when my mom said, so what you
what'd you do? I said, well, here's what we did
on Friday, you know, Thursday, and then Friday we did this,
and what'd you do? Saturday was Saturday? Went to the
went to the Chiefs game at night six thirty. I said,
before that, we went to Weber's this you know, this
bar that the dad goes. She was, oh, you took you.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
To a bar? I said, yeah, yeah, we went there
and I had lunch and stuff. Shes Oh how long
were you there? I said, Oh god, Mom, was a
long time? Was like five hours? She was, your dad
brought you to bar for five hours? Yeah, yeah, in
the middle of the day. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah huh.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
And I think the next thing she did would say, okay, here,
why don't you go get a sandwich, I gotta make.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
A phone call.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Oh boy, that was well way right away, well.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
At least the story and then with well dad gave
me a bunch of singles and told me to go
have fun.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah, Dad, that would have gone overwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Dad said who do you like? In the sixth that
Santa Anita? Just just just go through who do you like?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
See, now you're judging my entire up bring dude, yalk.
But now it's we get off air right eleven o'clock
Pacific time, and bars here generally last call is just
after one o'clock, right, So drink a beer and shove luck. Normally,
I leave here and I go, I don't have enough
time to go to a bar, like why bother? Yeah,

(10:05):
as opposed to your five hour what am I gonna
do for five hours? Like I'm caught on the other gym?
Like what am I gonna get it to go for
an hour? Like what the hell's the point? Yeah? I
mean how long can I say? Can I get there for? Left?

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well, that was the whole thing when we worked at ESPN,
when we would do Sports Center, right, because Connecticut was
a no no, no, no, No one ever drank it
work as far as you know, uh, we always had
the big like that's the see, that's a big part.
But I'll pull the curtain back is that's the biggest.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Is that.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
It was an early town and most of the time
bars closed at one right, So bars closed Connecticut at
one o'clock. There was a bar called Bleachers that was
I want to say it was two miles from where
ESPN was, And so we would do the eleven o'clock
Sports Center and we would get done at midnight and
all of us would hope that the show would go

(11:01):
well and we wouldn't have to have a post meeting
because you don't have a post meeting at midnight after
the show if the show went bad, because the church
would say, okay, why did this happen? Why did But
if it was a clean show, he would say, great,
good show, everybody, and we would all get to our
cars and just I mean, and like that old joke.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Okay, yeah, okay, drive safe, you know, drive as fast
as you can.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
We would get there because the bar would close. They'd
have last call like a quarter to one, so all
of a sudden, it like between five and ten after twelve,
like this bar bleachers would get overrun by a bunch
of twenty five.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Year olds, like, hey, you want to come here and
hang out for a half hour. But then it always
turned into okay, whose turn is it? And so it'd
say yeah, okay, let's go get a case of beer
and come to mind.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
And everybody lived close to each other. It was almost
like college, Like.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
There were all these these apartments and they were really close.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
To each other.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
You could walk back and forth say okay, I'll have
people over. So almost every night someone would have people
over there. And since you're working till midnight, you're at
the bar till one, they would have people over till
three four in the morning, go home, go to sleep,
wake up the next day, do it again.

Speaker 4 (12:03):
It was like an extension of Cols.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Everybody worked hard, but it was like, hey, I got
unwind because you're just under the pressure cooker here for
like eight nine hours. It was like almost every night
people would you know, people would have something until like
three four in the morning, and that's how it would work.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, Leacher's Bar ct dot net. Oh okay, But here's
the question I would have for you. Which executive had
an interest in that bar? Uh? Oh boy, I don't
know that any I'm trying to think because the.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Christeve Levy bought coaches, which was the bar in Hartford
we would all go to if you were going to
a Whaler's game or something else or a Yukon game
like he bought he bought uh uh coach coaches. I
think okay that I think him and like Jim Calhoun
and somebody else like it just went like that.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
That was a bar that that Levy owned.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And Calhoun tell them about, you know, state employee. He said,
get some facts and come back and see me. Get
some facts and come back and see what was it
take tonight. But no, I don't think any executives own
play because the one thing we would say was, hey,
can you keep it open open? You know your investigated mind.
That would have been the question I was asking Kevin

(13:19):
Ollie Dog, Danny Hurley, Dog, Bobby Hurley.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right, Reggie Miller.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
See if you can find any more Knicks videos that
we can play on the show that we don't have
to bleep out.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
Okay, I just find So there you go.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
The party in full swing right now, go get you
go to New York. Coming up next, we'll tell you
the biggest takeaway from Game six of the Eastern Conference Finals,
and it's time to make room on Mount Rushmore for somebody.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Plus more on the Brock party story. We told you
last hour he got paid because of where he got drafted.
There's actually a bigger reason now he got all this money.
We'll tell you why next Jason and Mike Fox.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app Shower.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
Any NBA team.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
Could win the title, and the videos they would put
out aren't close to what Knicks fans are putting out
tonight not even close.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Now, I got to figure out how to monetize this
shower curtain, leather, Burkin Nixon, fie. I mean, it's really
it's a part.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
If if I you said to me, you could wave
a magic wand and say, Jason, I could take you
to any sporting event of the last ten years, I
would want to go to tonight's next game, not even
the whole game, from the middle of the second quarter
to the end, because it would feel like I was
in the ocean riding waves. Because it was just a

(15:10):
party in Madison Square Garden. The Knicks kept hitting big shots.
They led to Celtics by thirty thirty five, forty points.
It would have been, it would have been.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
It's not.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
It wasn't just a game. It was the event it
will be.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
I was there Game six Celtics in twenty twenty five
when it was bedlam and it was a celebration and
everything went right.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
To get out of the second round, I know it
would do. You know what they always say, to be
the man, you gotta beat the man.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
But that's the thing is, like tonight, it was more
than just a game, Like it was more than just Hey,
here's what they.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Just a game, a game, just a game.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
It was it was it was an event.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
It was an event to be at where you felt
like you were being like I'd be hand passed through.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
The crowd, seaman was crowd serving.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, I would feel like I was high watching this. Really,
I well, I think you kind were sitting here. I
might have been without the you know, the extra stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
I might have been. Man, I might have been you.
You were right, you were ride high. And then the
fact that you know your energy is not dissipated fully
yet it was pretty good.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I tell you, it's gonna oh yeah, this is party,
gonna go to Wednesday. And that's no, no, he's gonna
go to Wednesday till the Pacers go boot to stop.
You are with me for another thirty five minutes. Because
we knocked out the Celtics. Then you can say, is
going to kick your ass?

Speaker 4 (16:30):
You can do that. The Celtics lost, you said, I ain't.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Not only did the Celtics lose go to New York
lost their souls all right.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Now, we talked about this, or we'll get to brock
Perty coming up in a couple of minutes. But we
talked about this earlier in the show. If you asked
anybody who the greatest Nick is of all time, I mean,
I can only go back to when I started watching basketball,
so I go back to the unfortunately the late seventies.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
This is after the next Heyday. Right. Well, you might
have had you know, Bill Brand at the game. Yeah,
maybe you men mentioned Clyde Frazier. Yeah, because he's been
a staple all these years, so you still remember his career. Yeah,
a little, right, because he's there, had great beard commercials
for him.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
With a look so natural.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
But uh, but you go back, and I would say, okay,
like going back now fifty years, go back?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Uh some Elik Rose, uh Ken the Animal Banister. Uh,
you go back? Okay.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Generally the consensus is that Patrick Ewing is the greatest Nick.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Right.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's a Hall of Fame player. He led the Knicks
to a couple of NBA finals. They probably would have
won the second one if he didn't get hurt because
he tore his achilles at the end of the Eastern
Finals against the Pacers and ninety nine, so that had
to play the Spurs without him.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
It was a huge deal. Like that was the end
of you like Ewing's prime, like that was the end
of it. But Ewing had some playoff failures and as
great as he was, right, as great as he was,
he was someone who took the Knicks form obscurity because
they were terrible for the late seventies early eighties. They
drafted Youing in eighty five, and suddenly the fortunes turned around,
and for most of the nineties they were in the

(18:07):
Eastern Conference finals just about every year. You ever said,
David Stern that thank you? Uh no, well, I didn't
think it was I didn't think it was that big.
I didn't think frozen envelope stuff was that big a
deal until a few years later.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Like, of course the Knicks are getting Patrick Ewing.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
We need him, all right, great, I said our offseason goals, Dad,
I said it at the lunch table. We needed a center.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
But I'll but I'll tell you what is that their
games And there's times when Ewing failed the next right,
I talked about the big the big leape, miss using
the series to the Pacers in ninety five, getting hurt
like Ewing. Ewing's era is is kind of defined by
he was a great player. The Knicks got to a
couple of finals, but he wasn't good enough to lead

(18:50):
them to a championship.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
That he gets a hall pass to some degree because
everybody just says, well, you had Jordan.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah, well, you know he makes a lot of money
because he spends a lot of its true, but like
just one championship, right, but generally you look back at
you and go, yeah, he was great, never won a title.
Even though Jalen Brunson has not gotten there, he has
come through in just about every clutch moment and he
has brought the Knicks back from doldrums that were even

(19:17):
lower than when Ewing did. Because when Ewing brought the
Knicks back in the in the early eighties, it was boy, okay,
we never expect the Nicks to do anything. Right, they
had they never had any you know, they won the title,
you know in sixty nine, they went back in seventy three,
and then okay, yeah, then it was the era of
the Sixers and the Celtics and the Lakers. Knicks were
really off the map, and so all of a sudden
it was like, oh hey, it's found money. But then

(19:40):
after they go to the finals in ninety nine, when
they never break through because of Jordan and the Bulls.
The desire to see them get back was so great,
and there were so many failures, from Isaiah Thomas to
Carmelo Anthony, to Steve Novak, Oh, Steve Novak Gannis from
all of these and now here's Brun's and who in

(20:00):
just a couple of years gets us to incredible relevancy
last year and now to the East Finals. This is ue
where they're the favorites to get to the NBA Finals. Yeah,
I get why Knicks fans are saying he's the greatest
nick of all time, and it's you know, obviously I'm
going back to the mid late seventies when I started watching.
But yeah, I mean, I know I'm kind of prisoner

(20:21):
of the moment, but I think Jalen Brunson is is
a consensus he's the greatest Nick ever. He's in the
middle of his career. Yes, it is sad because he's
twenty seven and all these times more like for your franchise,
it's got well, yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
It's sad.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I mean it's I mean, I'm happy because we're in
the East Finals, but it's a little said that that
this is what you need to do. But there's just
such a there's such a movement surrounding Brunson, where there
was never that much of a movement surrounding Patrick Ewing.
Patrick Uing was never someone who had a lot of
conversation about him, whereas now a big time conversation the

(20:55):
NBA is about Jalen Brunson and about the Knicks. Like
he has done more. He has done more of a
job of relevancy of raising the Knicks and has more
respect for that. And granted, I think we're forgetting a
little bit of Ewing's tenure.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
Hey, when you're in the.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
East Finals almost every year, Pacers or Bulls, it's a
pretty big accomplishment. Just look at where the Knicks are now.
But yeah, I mean I look at Jalen brunts like,
oh yeah, he's the greatest Nick. Of course he is.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
Look where we are.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Well, I think from nowhere goes to the conversation we
were having a little bit related to brock Purty, who
will get back to in a minute, is that you
had massive expectations out of what Ewing was going to be. Right,
He's a well decorated, long standing fixture on our basketball
loving selves at that point, right, because he was on

(21:41):
every Saturday. Here's Georgetown front and center. Here's the big
guys from Georgetown. There's John Thompson all the time. There's
the guy that wears the T shirt under his jersey.
There's Patrick Ewing and then he's the number one pick
and he goes to New York and he's a center
and centers. It's a different animal, right, because we do
our best. Stuves right, whenever you actually go down this

(22:02):
top five all time, how convenient or the goat conversations
usually it's say, yeah, Wilt and Kareem, they're over there,
and I think when you start thinking best of your franchise,
it oftentimes the centers kind of get pushed to the
side as well.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, because relatability to a degree, unless you're shocked, because
Shack was so beloved and there were.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
All shock But he's a different but it's also a
different time, a guy that embraced media. Patrick Ewing did
not know again the only quote that anybody remembers for
his playing days was the workstop and Joe, we make
a lot of money, we spend a lot of money,
so you need to have some sympathy for us in
our battle to change the structure of the CBA. But

(22:46):
for Jalen Brunson, he was a guy that was the
cast off from Dallas. Did they want him, Sure, they
wanted him to stay, but not at top notch money.
He went to New York and at the time, I
remember the conversation we were having, It's like, for a
point guard that's going to come in and be your guy,
he's underpaid, right. It's like we talk about quarterbacks, we're
talking about purty, we talk about guys at elite positions.

(23:10):
You're going to get paid and if you go and
you win, you become the stuff of legend. Hen't won
anything yet, but there are these indelibly etched moments for
him that have New York fans believing again as opposed
to add the Knicks are a fun, fun off season
thing until we get to concert season and whatever else

(23:30):
and we're back out, you know, on the on the
island and we're hanging out and going to the beach
and whatever else. So it's the for Brunson, he's a
guy that doesn't look the part. And I'm not casting
as ursions. I'm a short squad man myself, but he's
a guy that defies that we always talking. He's not fast,

(23:51):
but he's quick, but he can get his shot off.
He's tenacious, all of these things creating space. He'll ask
you out of the way, like, so he's a full
hero plus at this point and now that it's coming
with Wind's tail to it, Yeah, he takes plus ad,
social media, plus, he loves doing interviews like all of

(24:12):
those things, check every box. He embraced New York City
on a whole other level. Hell, how many times do
we see that in Villanova commercial tonight fifteen Gizo the
Villanova dog. But but all of that to say, right,
he's a guy you embraced because he wasn't the number
one pick. He wasn't the guy that was supposed to

(24:34):
come in and set the world on fire. And when
he came to the next it became all right, what's
he gonna do? How far can they go? And last
year they went pretty far and they got hurt. Yeah,
excuses reasons whatever. Who did they play when they went
out last year?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, we were up two zip against the Pacers then
and then we.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Lost everybody and then nemhard got him the Pacers, right hard.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
That three that's not happening this route we're sweeping the Pacers.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
Just so you know, Rick Carlisle, I think he's gonna.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
He's doing some sort of telethon right now about the
officiating in the Eastern Conferences.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
Yeah, can we go to Rick Carlile live talking about it?
But nobody told me, yeah, I get ready.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Uh now you mentioned Brock Party, right, and I'm telling
you Jalen Brunson greatest Nick. Yes, And and if he
gets the Knicks to this finals, then it doesn't matter
that then he's the greatest Nick. Then then then there's
no debate on I'm telling you right now, how fast.
But there's no debate on how fast does the statue
go up? If they win a title? They start fast.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Putting out during the clinching game against the Pacers.

Speaker 4 (25:39):
Let's get it going.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
They get a good artist, that going to hell a
hell of a statue.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Yeah, buddy, Now you mentioned Brock Party and and look
the other big story of the day today. Uh, we'll
make sure we get Yeah, we got dwayn Wade's get
hey boy, it kind of looks like, hmm, maybe we
want to do that again. Uh, going up until the
next game tonight, right with the big breaking news early
in the day.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
The Broncolypse is here.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Right, brock Purdy gets paid five year, two hundred and
sixty five million dollar extension with the San Francisco forty
nine ers.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Right, we're waiting for the Brocalypse the last two and
a half years. It's here.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's weird that something we talk about on and off
for so such a long time, all of a sudden.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Bang it's here. Okay, and the nixt win.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
It's like, oh, page two, but the broncolypse happens, and
he gets paid, and it's time to stop asking a
question about why a quarterback is getting paid what he
is and is he getting paid too much money? Because
that is irrelevant now right where it used to be
a thing, Oh can this guy? Is this guy really

(26:43):
worth the money? Did you throw it away? Did you
pay him too much? That used to be a legit conversation.
Right When a guy like Daniel Jones gets four years,
one hundred and sixty millions, what are you doing? The
guy's not that good? Right, there's one thing about paying
a guy who's not that good, and there's another thing
to sit here and say, Okay, you know, how do
you pay a guy who is, and you're just debating

(27:03):
how good he is, right, Daniel Jones, Like the guy
had really just a couple of good games at the
end of one year, whereas brock Party has been pretty
good to last three years. So now where do you go.
Is brock Purty worth fifty five million dollars a year?
That's no longer the question because once I explain this,
you're gonna understand. Oh, this is just how it goes.
Teams know how miserable it is in the NFL when

(27:26):
you don't have a quarterback. You watch teams like the Jets,
who for forty years been trying to find a quarterback,
or the Raiders or anybody else that don't have a quarterback,
and they go, wow, it is a miserable existence. And
fighting a quarterback ain't easy.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
You would think it'd be a little bit easier, especially
for the Jets, like it'd be a little easier, Like
it seems like every year, like six or seven teams
find a quarterback and we can't be that team. But
teams know how miserable it is, so when they find
someone who doesn't doesn't mean you're one of the top
five or six quarterbacks. You'd love to be able to
find a Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Jalen Hurts.

(27:59):
But general, when you find a brock Party who is
a top fifteen quarterback in the NFL, you're gonna keep
them because you know how miserable life is without it,
and you don't want to risk that we could do
a lot worse and who knows what could happen to
the team if we're wrong in the next couple of quarterbacks. Look,

(28:19):
brock perty was a guy they found, right, mister irrelevant,
final pick in the draft.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
So you can debate.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Where brock Purty, say, boy, can a guy who could
rank thirteenth or fourteenth best quarterback in the NFL? Is
he worth fifty five million dollars a year? Yeah, he
kinda is, because it's a position you don't have to
worry about. You can win with brock Purty, and you
don't want to have to worry about. Okay, if I
move on from brock Party, what's the chances I'm getting
a better quarterback? Really, you don't have to replace him,

(28:48):
so of course you want to keep that guy. So
once you realize that, all the other stuff makes sense,
like it makes sense, I understand the Jaguar saying, well,
we're gonna give fifty five million a year to Trevor
Lawrence because we could do a lot worse. Right, why
does Geno Smith get that big extension with the Raiders
Because you could do a lot, and the Raiders know
about doing worse at quarterback, Hey, we could do. Geno

(29:09):
Smith's a league average court a little bit better than
legue average when he plays well. So when you have
one of those guys, it's easy to say, yeah, I
want to give him money. And so of course that
money's gonna keep going up because there's sixteen fifteen, sixteen quarterbacks.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
You could say are in the top half of the NFL.
So when these guys keep coming up, they're gonna keep
setting the bar higher. And then when the best guys
come up, okay, they're gonna set the bar higher than anybody. So, yeah,
the guys like Burrow are gonna do that, and Lamar
and Mahomes are going to continue to do that, but
these other guys are gonna do it too, because teams
understand this is a guy we can win with. He's

(29:44):
good enough, he's young enough. We know we were confident
that he's not a flash in the pan that.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
He's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
So let's make sure we lock him in because in
three years, are we gonna say and MBNA say, brock
Perty's overpaid. No, you're talking about the guys at the
bottom level of being franchise starting quarterbacks who're making fifty
five million dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
But that's just it, right, he's seventh today or eighth today.
In two years, he's guess what fifteenth or lower? Right,
just the way this works and the cap keeps going up.
But what do we always watch teams in roster construction
trying to get better via the draft. So the better
organization stockpiling picks and finding starters in the second third

(30:25):
day of the draft, and then placing free agents as
you need to, and then you're top heavy, right with
three or four big contracts at the most critical positions
your attacker, your thrower, and your protector, and then you
wield out from there. So you're looking at brock Purdy
institutional knowledge. You've got a lot of other changing parts

(30:46):
you want to change your quarterback to. You just changed
out a lot of talent, right your offensive line, Trent
Williams Older, and you're looking at his health and availability.
The rest of that offensive line just keep going on
down the line. Mccaffery's coming back, How great is he
going to be? Is he gonna be his old self? No,
you need a quarterback who you know what his baseline is.

(31:08):
And while last year wasn't you know, record smashing with
all those guys getting hurt, you didn't bottom out, you
didn't lose because of him, still the guy with one
hundred and five career Q quarterback rating, touchdowns, interception ratio.
All of that to say, it's now on his arm
and his shoulders. But it becomes the question. You know

(31:29):
you mentioned the Jets, You can mention the Bears and
all these other teams that have been wandering in the
desert for a quarterback for years. They have a bit
of an organizational stability that is rare in our NFL.
What do you got six to eight teams where you
just say, okay, it's the same GM, same brain trust,
and same coach, right, Otherwise it shuffles out time and

(31:51):
time again. So yeah, all of that to say for
Brock Purdy, you may not like it, And I know
some folks are like, ah, he's game manager or whatever.
It's like, yeah, it seemed to man them, okay, and
now they hit this next phase in a retooled division
and it's there for him to go and be the
elite guy because he's gonna have to take over games
perhaps a bit hurt in the past. Dog, We're gonna

(32:16):
do this for the next three days. That's great.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I like this dog coming up next. Well, if you
missed that audio, we'll play that back for you. But
straight ahead, what's the biggest thing we have learned about
the NBA season up until this point.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
I'll tell you next Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
The bases are really.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
Good, alex ty shirt Dog, and that's not the lesson Nicks.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Wow, how about to come kick your ass because.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Let me go tonight Friday Night.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
I have the entire.

Speaker 4 (32:51):
Knicks behind me. I could kick your ass.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Yeah. Trust me when I when I hit you, there
will be two hits. Say that me hitting you and
you hit the floor.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon.
We have a couple of amazing pieces of audio to
play for you in the next few minutes.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Are we spinning out to a bar after this? Keep
this party going? Oh, I'm drinking diet cherry coke all night.
I'm having a party already.

Speaker 4 (33:27):
Possibly the tweet of the night from Alice.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's just Jason are talking about how the Knicks fans
are celebrating.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
They're celebrating like they beat Thanos.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It's fair point dog Thanos was a dog. Save the universe.
Let's go get Shwarma now, you know.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
So there, there you go, there's your tweet of the night.
That's your house.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
We've been talking about when you hear saying dog all
the time, because nobody is having as much fun tonight
as Knicks fans who are celebrating like they won.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
The NBA tal Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Here's our favorite, well, the one that we can play
on the air because a lot of actual expert is,
I mean, the Knicks party videos, Knicks fans party video
tonight are just amazing. Here's our favorite because and it's
one that we can play for you because there's no
curse words in it.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
Jalen Runson dog, Cal Bridges dog, Josh Hart dogg.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
What's Reggie Noller.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
You just wait. You know Reggie Miller is going to
be front and center.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Oh right, he's the happiest guy in the world. Oh,
I get to be relevant again. I thought last year
was going to be it with me and the Knicks fans. Oh,
I get to do it again?

Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right? Great, good luck, Reggie will see it. Minus
won sixty for the series, applying sixty two percent probability
at the Knicks are your victor?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Minus more satum.

Speaker 4 (35:00):
Oh oh, whoa too soon? Miss snap into a slim
gym eat me.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
If you only knew, if you only knew what you
were saying sports wise, I knew.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
You don't know you're like to do.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
You're like a kid that learns a curse word and
just says it because they WHOA don't say that?

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Why I don't understand. Implemented means we'll see him in
twenty twenty six. I get it.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
Well, okay, brother, what now?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Hey? Speaking of things that shouldn't be said, Paul Pierce,
Celtic's legend who already walked to work.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Because if the Celtics blow this lead, I'll walk to.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Work walked five one hundred miles. Uh Paul Pierce showing
that he is still really bitter putting this video up
on social media tonight and again, Friday nights may not
always be the best time to put videos up on
social media, but he's uh, you know, in this video
holding a Red Solo Cup in his hand, and he
wanted to make sure that even though Knicks fans were celebrating, uh,

(35:56):
you know what, your time at the top is short lived.

Speaker 6 (36:00):
You know, whatever y'all, y'all, y'all did, y'all New York
is a pacer was gonna pop. Y'all though y'all know that, right,
y'all know that the Pacers is gonna get y'all, so
I don't even want to hear all that, Like, yeah,
y'all feeling good, y'all beat the say, y'all beat it,
y'all be an injured Celtics team. Y'all beat an injured

(36:22):
Celtics team. Bro. We didn't have our our all NBA
player first Team v P candidate, Yeah, who led us
in all these categories the first four games off?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
You know, a red Solo Cup?

Speaker 6 (36:36):
Whatever? The shout out to y'all New York.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Paul Pierce, Yeah, no, you know you had Jason Tatum
for the first We were up three to one with
Jason Tatum, just so you know, you got hurt in
the final couple of minutes when we had a twelve
point lead. So yeah, we were up three to one
when you had Jason Tatum.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Oh and Inja, he sounds so bitter and so jealous
and so so and.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
So dog he sounds.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
I love that audio because all it just makes me
do is just laugh because he's just so mad. He's
so incredibly mad that the Celtics lost to the Knicks
that he wants to sit here and have a ten
year old argument of yeah, you guys are losing the
next round, like that's what he wanted to do.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know, a red solo cup is the perfect receptacle.
You know, you think a guy who had to walk
to work because he ran his mouth too much about
the Knicks and the Celtics would understand, Okay, the Knicks one,
I'm good.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
No, no, no, I'll make sure his wheelchair wasn't available.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
But that's the thing. It undercuts the punishment of what
he did. He did not learn his lesson, so clearly
he did not walk that in fifteen miles.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
No no, maybe he should walk to work again.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
I mean unless he experienced the pain, the callous yeah,
the bliss. I would even say, if you want to
get push in a wheelchair fifteen miles to work, that's
fine too. Now he's gotta get a little motorized. Okay,
you can't put that on somebody else that they got
to push his ass for fifteen miles.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Well, we beat someone like a celebrity, like a different Boston.
Celebrities like Dennis Leary would do it for a little while.
Then Mark Wahlberg would do it for a little while.
We've got a couple of Wallburgs work with.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Yeah, you go Wahlburg to Wallburg and they cant. They
can put a thing for their Hamburger sandwich board on DJ.
It's wall to Wallburg pushing get the rest of the
new kids on the Boston. The only c I see, Hey, Boston,
who's getting wild? And I Kronk could push him for

(38:34):
a little while. Brady could push him for a little while. Sure,
why not?

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, all that he's got, he's just so Daniel Stern, Yeah,
I love it. I let certain times when when I
when I see people just get really argue without logic
I understand how how mad they are, and it's just fun.

Speaker 4 (38:58):
It's just so fun.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
See this one is these is true feelings or I
got it? You you get what I'm asking America and globally.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
I mean, Paul, I'm sorry when you come in and
do speak.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Next, you're gonna be talking about the Knicks, because you
will have to talk about the Knicks because they're the
most popular team left in the NBA playoffs. You think
Knicks content, You're saying, wait, do you see what Knicks
content looks like for the next four days because it's
the Knicks, It's New York, Indiana, Minnesota, and then either
Denver or Oklahoma City that's gonna be in the NBA

(39:37):
Final Four. You see how much airtime the Knicks get
on TV and the radio the next few days.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
You just wait and see?

Speaker 2 (39:42):
All right, really quick before we seed way for our guy,
Chris Plank plus eight and a half. Right now, are
the Denver Nuggets Aaron Gordon doubtful with a hammy.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I will take the Nuggets in an upset. They manage
the final few minutes, things get too dicey for the thunder.
Jamal Murray goes for forty in the Wind.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
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Speaker 4 (40:10):
I'm Jason nix Yo.

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