May 14, 2025 • 41 mins
Pete Rose will 100% get in the Hall of Fame in the next few years. MLB (and all sports) are entwined with legalized gambling. There are ads during games. The votes will fall his way b/c of how MLB is now. Pete did his time. Should've been sooner. Like when he was alive.
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Speaking of ripping the knob off, we will get to
the big stuff tonight out of the NBA in a
few minutes. We've spend some time the last hour talking
a lot about the Cavaliers loss and now the Thunder
one game away from the Western Conference Finals. But today
was a big day in Major League Baseball. To another
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day to get to talk about Pete Rose and shoeless
Joe Jackson, for me to watch Eight Men Out for
the five hundredth time in my life, and all day
I'm just thinking of all the great eight Men Out
lines I'm gonna run in the show tonight, and like
I haven't run it out like I thought it would
run at least like twenty five or thirty, and I
have because of the movies in my life that I
know the most, the most dialogue of you know, with
(01:42):
Caddy Shock and Cars and Top Gun a few good men,
like Eight Men Out is at the top because I
know I've seen that movie one hundred times. I've seen
it so many times after it came out and then
years after. It's just one of those movies that I
always love watching. It's always been, you know, and always
whenever somebody has a question about the nineteen nineteen White Sox,
(02:03):
they asked me, Hey, jameson Rabb, Dicky Kerr won one
game three. Uh yeah, we pitched a shutout. Uh yeah,
and you know he was a guy that was not
in on the fix, just so you know, nobody thought
they could win.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He was nervous before the.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Game, but then he talked about how the first big
league game he ever went to Huey Jennings at a
home run of the ninth and kid gleats and pitched
a no hitter. Yeah, it's a very big deal. So
you will get only the money you deserve. So I
thought I'd run many more Eight Men Out lines than
I would. And it's such a it's such a forgotten
movie because it's you know, it's look, it deals with
(02:36):
the Black Sox scandal. Obviously Field of Dreams does as well,
but that's more about someone's you know, Kevin Costner's life
spoiler alert. And and how the you know, shoeless Joe
Jackson plays into what is a different story. Eight Man
Out is specifically about, you know, the White Sox throwing
the World Series in nineteen nine, Chicago politics, Chicago. Yeah,
And when I told my daughter, like we finally was,
(02:57):
she finally watched it, like a few months if I said,
this is thing for you and I because I've seen
this movie so many times. She goes, are you gonna
say every line in the movie? And I said, do
you want me to or not? No? She goes, who's it?
I said, okay, so okay, who would you know? I said, okay,
so it's Michael Rooker and yeah, John Cusack and dB
Sweeney and and uh David Straight. Then she's like, whoa
(03:21):
what all of these people were in this movie? Yeah,
it's like three you didn't have to you know, other
movies you would have straight there and from from allege
of their own and from the firm. She knows Charlie Sheen, Uh,
you know she knows John Cusack from John cus Like,
she was, yeah, oh yeah, don't forget Michael Lerner too,
you know him, remember him from this movie and all
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the different watch.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So she knows Mahoney Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well she knew she knew John Mahoney from uh from
say anything, I said, John, all of these people. I said, yes,
it's a phenomenal movie. She's like, all right, let's watch.
And I'm like, yeah, let's go. So he watched eight
Men Out? No, Like, what did you think that?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
She was, Wow, I can't believe it was that easy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
To fix the World series. Don't forget Gordon clap NYPD Blue.
Yeah she didn't know Gordon clap I said, yeah, yeah,
your teacher about simple wits. Soon enough, I said, this
is Metavoyd. He would walk a hey and the and
the what what about? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What about?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I said he was dating Donna Aben Dondo. You know
a different thing.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
People were went from Sesame Street. He was mister Noodle. Yeah, yeah, oh,
mister one of the mister noodles.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's got something forever. You remember Swede? He was
from Diehard too.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
She goes, yeah, he was one of the henchmen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And yeah, stud remember when we saw him at the
at the at the when when we were getting our
Christmas tree and we saw the guy Don Harvey who
played goes, Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I said, yeah, that's him, that's Swede.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And you got all starstruck and acted all weird. Yeah,
Don Harvey, that's great.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Though.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I can't get my daughters anywhere near a television with
this time. I could put one hundred bucks on top
of a bucket of popcorn and they're not sitting there
for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And the thing is no chance.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I know, Don Harvey saw me and when I gave
him that double tank, he was like, I to go
eight men out or die Hard too. I was gonna
say both, but eight men out especially, I said, Sweet
is a hard guy. Like you know, this is mind going, okay,
say eight men out or die Hard too?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, one of those, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He's probably still getting residual checks now and again from
the streaming service Away and they're not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Huge, no, no, And he was in the next to
last season A better Call Saul.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But all of that to say, I mean getting recognized thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Years out movie, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'd like to think I've come to grips with that,
and I'm happy that you recognize. Now if I've had
a long career and you're gonna run lines.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh yeah, dude, I'm fifty five other credit since then?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Can we do that scene of you and Chick in
the bathroom when you figure out the fix and you
tell him Freddy's in, even though Swede he's not even
gonna play, and you do with your hair and you go, Chick,
he's in. He's in What's Next? And here comes Christopher Lloyd.
Oh yeah, Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. Yeah, my god, Doc Brown,
I said yes. And do you remember the guy Billiam
harsh Goes, Yeah, yeah, he was the guy that stole
the car and Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes, this is the cast of this movie.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
She was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So it's a cast of legends. I mean they're everywhere.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's no question about it. Burns strictly bench material. I
won a few games, you lost a few more. But
you know a couple of things about this. You know,
first of all, why do we get this today? Why
is suddenly Pete Rose and Joe Jackson and the other
Black Sox eligible for the Hall of Fame. You look
down third base. Next year, Buck Weavers gonna be playing
his butt off. And it's pretty simple because it is
(06:32):
no coincidence that a month ago President Trump very vocally said, hey,
I think you had a meeting talk to Rob Manfred.
I think Pete Rose should be reinstated into Major League baseball.
And here we are a month later where Pete Rose
is reinstated in Major League Baseball. And we've talked about this,
and we got into this a bit with the Eagles
decision to go to the White House, where every sport knows,
(06:56):
Now if something happens and you appear to be at
odds with the White House. It's going to be a thing, right,
It's just it's going to be something public and it's
going to come up. And I'm sure the Eagles thought,
you know what, we're gonna go because we don't want
it to be if we don't want this to be
a storyline where the White House is upset with us
for not going and suddenly we have to deal with
publicity fall out of this. We're gonna go. If you
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want to come, great, If you don't want to come,
don't come. Right, people have not come before to the
White House that you People didn't go to see Biden,
people didn't go to see Obama, people didn't go to
see Bush. It happens, right, So just but we're gonna
go to stay away from this. And I'm sure part
of that with what Rob Manford is well, okay, this
is a thing, and we're probably thinking about reinstating him
anyway because the lifetime ban is over it at the
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time of his death, and you know, and look, and
I don't know I'm kind of projecting now, but obviously
with where we sit with with people being able to
stay in the country and not a lot of players
coming to the United States, and the Dominican Republican and
other countries want to make sure these players are allowed
to play and stay and that goes well. And I'm
sure that Rob Manford decided, Okay, it's not worth it
to get into it. I don't want this to become
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a thing where I don't reinstate Pete Rose. And now
it becomes a thing at the Daily Press, Brie thing
or someone talking because look, Trump went in on Alcatraz,
became a three day story. We're going to reopen Alcatraz
because he probably saw that TV show on local TV
last week, and no, we're gonna reopen Alcatraz to do it.
So I'm sure that's where that's where sports groups and
sports leagues sitting now is like, Okay, everything can get
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so hyper politicized. We're just gonna stay out of it.
And so here is. For years, it was never Pete
Rose canking in, Pete Rose canking in, chewless Joe Jackson
canking in. And now if you want to say, well,
Pete Rose just passed away. Uh Sholes Joe died a
long time ago. All the Black Saws players died. Well, okay,
yeah he's I don't think he's in Syracuse hanging out
with Jim Morrison. But all these Black Sox players died
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a long time ago, right, So you can't sit here
and say, well, Pete Rose, no, no, Black Socks players
were dead for a long time. You could have done
this if you wanted to, but you didn't. And so
now you're doing it. There's no coincidence that here comes
a little nudge from President Trump on it, and now
here a month later, here are these players who are reinstated.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now we go to the team thing when we talked
about it with the Eagles, is that you're going to
have people that vote on both sides of the aisles
as part of your organization in that locker room, in
the front offices, et cetera, so blanket decisions, and that
probably will ruffle some feathers behind the scenes. Likewise, it's
an institution. It's a historical thing to where you know,
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I didn't have a lot of teams that said, hey,
we're not going to do these things, and not that
there isn't precedence for individuals, and certainly in the past
with this presidency as well. And you know, it becomes
public fodder.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The thing is, there's a million stories that flow every day,
so it's usually pretty quickly forgotten something like this. But
to your point, when you're talking about the globalization of
sports and the amount of money, personnel, talent being called
from around the globe, Yeah, it's certainly something to that.
And I'm sure for Rob Manford, like, it's not like
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he took more than three seconds to write the statement
that he did.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It was like a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Clearly up in comment that he said to someone, Yeah,
clean that up.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Oh no, they put it out verbatim. How I felt
about that?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh man, you were supposed to put some flowery language
in there.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What the hell are you say?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But all of that say, yeah, I mean's the all right,
what's the greater good and greater statement being made if
we take a certain course of action in this case.
I don't know that I've heard a lot of clamoring
for Joe Jackson or the Black Sox players forever.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
As we talked with John Paul Morosi a little earlier
in the show, it's a museum, so people are represented
for feats, for streaks, for their prominence in different statistical categories.
Whether it's Pete Rose's hits or you know, Barry Bond's MVPs,
et cetera. Like they're represented, but there's obviously a difference.
(10:51):
And the league, or I should say, the voters, have
done an interesting job through the years picking and choosing
how they they had unicate those terms. But we'll leave
them for a separate time. You know, Barry and Roger
and Sammy and all of those guys versus some of
those others that have walked into the Hall of Fame,
(11:12):
and you will nod and wink and you know exactly
what I'm talking about there. But for these purposes, yeah,
I mean, it's it's indelicate the way the commissioner put
out the statement, but not altogether wrong. Right in terms
of all right, let's reevaluate this.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Say, a lifetime ban ends on pond the death of
the player, and that's all you have to say, Okay,
all right, And you can give a nod to the
office of the President without you know, really going out
of your way to say, you know, President Trump, President Trump,
I mean, he's going to take the credit for it,
but you can say, hey, you know, we we re
(11:50):
examined it. Right, that was a nudge and we reconvened. Whatever,
take whatever tax you need to again a better statement
than what you did, because I don't don't think anybody
rationally thinking this thing out would disagree with the all right,
it was a lifetime band bit cold, bit callous is
related to Hey, that was some It's like when Ron
(12:11):
Sandel got into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The guy was pleading to be.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
In the Hall of Fame for years, then he dies
and all of a sudden, likeh it goes to the committee. Yeah,
that guy certainly was a Hall of Fame, There's no
question about it. That's the worst you can do. But
Pete Rose's family, extended family and friends and fans all
get to celebrate that, perhaps eventually if he has voted in.
Because there is that pesky little part of it that
(12:35):
still needs to come.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, we'll get to the voting part of it coming
up next, because I think a one both of these guys,
I mean Pete Rose and Shuless Joe Jackson are getting
in the Hall of Fame. But a little bit different
reason why we got that end the big story out
of the NBA today that I can't believe, and we
had stupid being a theme earlier last year with Rob Manford.
I can't believe people are actually saying this when it
(12:58):
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Speaker 1 (14:07):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
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Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now, we always.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Talk a lot about retirements here in sports and hanging
them up and leaving quitters. How about an unretirement. To
tell you about an unretirement? He's this more AI he
has been retteling. Maybe he has been retired since twenty seventeen.
Patrick Cuting after Patrick Hey, he was, hey, hey, can solve.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Your big man problem?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Ewling and Rick Patino hugging after the Knicks win.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Lesson.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I was once at the urinal with Patrick Ewing. Were
you well, wow, there were no dividers?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh wow? How do you think that one? You were intimidated?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Did he did he tap you on the head and say, hey,
how you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Nice to meet you? Just stop that oll when he
was done eating peanuts out of the uine.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Uh so, And again one of the most decorated careers
you will ever see.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Phil ja not Phil Jackson.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Daniel day Lewis coming out of retirement, not that announced
earlier today he is going to be acting in his
son's movie, So he is ending a seven well eight
year retirement from acting coming out to act right here.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
How great would this be those you're on the set
and you've you've agreed just sight unseen. Dad, I've got
this opportunity. I'm going to drink this picture. I'd love
you to fill this role. You're Daniel day Lewis, you
walked away. You're a method actor of the highest degree.
And then you get the material and you realize after
(15:40):
about three pages it's no good or you're totally just
gonna say, well, I'm doing this out go out of
my own you know, goodness of my heart from my son,
He's going.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To make this the greatest thing of all time.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
A bloody bowling pin at the beginning of the first
scene of This Man.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Sounds like an out the script Homer wrote in The
Simpsons when Ron Howard says it's about a it's about
a robot that goes back in time for some reason,
and his best friend's a talking pie.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Legitimately it's one of those yeah, Dad, Dad, will you
do this?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And then he's in there and he's like I don't
even know how to get into this character. And and
the movie is called Milkshake.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It's called anemone. I live in an m and live
action Marlin. Yeah, that's what it is. It's actually coming back.
I'm writing a live action version of Finding. We're gonna
use real fish to Uh let's my dad has.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Been working on his underwater breathing for a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Uh so, welcome back to acting, Daniel. That's fantastic, and.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Starts to drink milkshake. I drink your milk. I'm not
freaking at all.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The Boys to the Arm one of the greatest musical
remixes that we ever. You think every time he goes
out to dinner wherever he's at, someone buys him a
milkshake and then he comes over and says, I want
to drink your milkshas.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Who he is? Now?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't spend a lot of time on gossip sites,
but I got a question. How often Daniel day Lewis
has been seen in public? That's not many people know
exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I think a lot of people a lot sure.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think he looks like just a gangly what is he?
Six feet tall? He can hide pretty well. Yeah, yeah,
but I think we got Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He's not walking around with the top hat like he's
the butcher. He pay attention to me now, thanks Tom Cruise.
These guys can't go out Lewis, I'm sure can go
out without getting.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
He's not walking around with a knife tapping on a
glass eye. I mean, it's not what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think he lives in Europe, right, he's from He's
from England, so I'm sure when he goes out and
everybody knows who he is in England, I'm sure I'm
talking about oh here, Yeah no, I don't think. I
don't think he's here. I don't think he doesn't live.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But even overseas, I don't. I think they'd leave a
lot of come on.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I won three Award Academy Awards for Best Actor. I
think everybody knows who he is. I'm pretty sure I
think he can blend in. He's a kam Alien. You
see what he does with his work. He becomes that guy.
If he was walking around like Lincoln. You just said,
there's the crazy man dressed like Lincoln. He stole that
oscar from Tom Cruise in nineteen eighty nine. He's a
left foot and Tom Cruise was born in the fourth
(18:22):
of July. But then he did Cocktail the same year.
It's probably why he didn't win.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Uh so he got the hippy hippie shake.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was going to vote for you, but then I
saw Cocktail and I said, wow.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Jason, I would never know who that was if he
walked by me. Who Tom Cruise, Well, no, I know Cruise.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh okay, you did. Daniel Dan Lewis, I have no idea.
Have you seen any of his movies Alsyser goes, you know,
the little Guy, the little Guy? Yeah, you know a
little guy.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
See his movies?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, okay, you would know. I think you would have seen.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There Will be Blood at least fifty times he was. Yeah,
you would know.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Daniel way Lewis, Yeah, absolutely you will.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
If he was dressed like Bill the Butcher, maybe no,
but that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Like if he's in full regalia that dread that guy
or Lincoln, Hey it's Abraham Lincoln like, but he immerses himself.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
So like if he's just walking around and he's now
got his members only jacket, uh, some cavalry, he's just
wandering in the streets.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, so ri ip to anybody putting out a film
the same year, is this one coming out?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, you're not gonna win interesting credibility for his son. Sorry, sorry,
Glenn has already been prenominated for an oscar.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You're not gonna win for Twisters, Glenn pal I'm sorry,
but but good luck on the Chad Powers thing. So
I actually just started watching Twisters with my younger daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Neither of us have ever seen it, and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
There was a scene very early in the movie where
he does one of those long stare, you know, looking
looking back, and it just goes on, Oh yeah, It's like, really,
when do you get to the range decided you had
to have that go an extra one, two three, or
it's like with that smirk on his face and like
(19:58):
come ons, wait you'll see the rain, Wait till the
rain shot that goes forever. Although you know they have
a release date now for Chad Powers.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, it's a new ted last up. I'm excited. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We talked about something stupid a little while ago, which
whitch Time, which was Rob Manford and his statement about hey,
when you're dead, you're no longer a threat to baseball.
We can reinstate. You sure something just as stupid has
been talked about a lot the last twenty four hours
when it comes to the draft lottery. Now, the draft
lottery last night and the Mavericks win. Remember I told
you Friday night, I don't care what the mathematic odds are.
(20:31):
The MAVs, the Sixers, or the Bulls are winning the
draft lottery. Zion in New Orleans has been a disaster.
You know, Wemby and san Antonio was good, but now
he's hurt. Hopefully he can come back. Prayers up for him.
But yeah, I don't think Cooper Flagg, the latest, you know,
the third generational talent in the last eight years, is
going to start his NBA career somewhere other than a
(20:52):
big market heritage team. Then oh, here's the Mavericks, the
latest team to lose their superstar because of the Nico
Harrison trade. They get to reply with Cooper flag right now.
But this is not saying that the lottery is fixed
or the lottery is not because you're chance. I was
stunned last night. We had Mark Stein on and you
asked him about the lottery and this, and I said,
(21:13):
you know, I've known Mark Stein for a long time.
He's going to say, look, guys, the fixing of the
draft lottery. You're talking about something, And instead he said,
I don't know how Adam Silver is going to talk
about this and explain it away, because you see, it's
been happened so many times now, where players have been,
where teams have been able to replace stars, they've all
the big stars have gone to big markets.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But it's not about if you believe it's fixed or
if you don't believe it's fixed. What I want to
focus on is the amount of times I have seen
people say today you just want to throw out there
you know I was in the room, or I've been
there and I've seen it. There's no way the lottery.
I've been there, the lottery is not fixed. And I
want to say, you just want to say you were there,
(21:54):
because to say to say that is just stupid, because
what you're saying is, oh, when I was there, when
all the people were there watching the draft lottery, nothing
was fixed. Oh, Because that's when they're gonna fix it,
when reporters are there and when people are there watching
seeing every move you make when you're pulling the the
ping pong balls out and you figure out who gets
what picked that.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They're not gonna fix it in front of you.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
If they're gonna fix it, it would be before they
do anything public with you. There'd be ways for that time.
The number of peoples that I was in the room,
you can't fix it. Oh right, right, So because they
didn't do it right in front of you, it means
that's just dumb, that's just absolutely dumb.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Eye.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, they would fix it in front, yes, because that's
how when you want to fix something, you do it
in front of as many people as possible. Oh, you know,
I thought we could fix this, my boy. There's a
lot of people here. Can can what do you guys
like to kind of distract them, like with the magic
trick or something, or get them to watch the game
on TV so I can fix the ping pong balls
behind you? I mean, make sure they don't turn around?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Can you do it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Just because I really gotta I gotta wait these ping
pong balls down so they come up for the Dallas
Mavericks like that. I mean, really, is that how it's done?
Is that how you think it's done?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I'm in the room and I've done Oh okay, right, right, right,
because that's exactly when they're gonna fix it, Like that's
just stupid.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, the categorical dismissiveness.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Of it all is the problem I have with it
right Where there's there's too much this, there's too much
of that. Are they subject to the same rules as
the California State lottery or super Lotto or whatever we're
doing when we watch the drug No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But all of it's to say that it's just happened
way too frequently since the Patrick Ewing envelope. And I
know we've changed the process.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They've changed the weighting, no pun intended, They've changed the
weighting of how teams are given their their chances. Right,
it's now three teams with a fourteen percent shot. All
of that to say, am I gonna come here and
immediately just pound the table saying that it's that it's
(23:58):
all rigged? I just saying that I'd love a great
explanation from the commissioner. And that's what I asked Mark
Stein of You know, you don't have just one piece
of data, right. This is not an outlier with Cooper Flag.
It happened with Derrick rose one point eight percent chance.
It happened with Lebron going to Cleveland. It happened the
(24:19):
year after Lebron left Cleveland that the Cleveland gets the
number one pick. It happened with Zion, they had a
six percent shot after Anthony Davis got traded. There's just
so many circumstances where it's like, wow, that seems way
too convenient of a fix for the team that lost
said superstar to just be able to just go I
don't know, like the math on it just says, all right,
(24:43):
this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You know, you start putting the calculation of it together
to try to allay the fears, and in the end,
if it's good for business, keep it going.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Everybody works right for the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Something we talked about after the trade of Luca, where
all the estimates of the losses from television deals and
and all of the overseas and endorsement opportunities and overseas
signage opportunities and carriage rights and all of that stuff. Well,
Cooper Flagg coming to Dallas in such a huge metroplex
(25:19):
fixes a lot of those financial ills right there. Oh,
and they still get the hundred million dollar cash savings
off of the Luca deal, but for all their other
rights where it looked like, wow, they're taking a bath
off this in the back end. So it's really foolhardy
even if you didn't like how well or not conditioned
he was in terms of getting through the end of
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a season. But for people to just say while I
was in the room, like there's a there's a million ways.
I mean we've all watched enough sleight of hand and
go back to the sting, go through now you see
me go through any of the Hey, magician's secrets exposed
on Fox.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean you've seen a.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Million different ways that you know slight a hand can
have you thinking you saw something when you didn't. Again
for the NBA dangerous business. Uh, but just saying hey,
I was in the room and nothing funny happens.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like you don't know it didn't or didn't. Okay, great
because you're all because they didn't do it right in
front of you. Oh okay, that makes it. No, that's
just dumb. Uh. Hey, we got a big Hall of
Fame discussion come in your way in about ninety seconds.
But first Chris Burphett has what's trending in the Wide
World of Sports and night CP What do you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, we let's start with the NBA. Nikola Jokic had
forty four points. Wasn't enough. The Thunder claim the lead
and the nugget and defeat the Nuggets one twelve to
one oh five. They take a three to two series lead.
Donovan Mitchell was in the line for the Cavaliers. Wasn't
enough there either. The Pacers close out that series with
a one fourteen to one oh five victory. The Dallas
Stars and the Ice defeat the Winnipeg Jets three to
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one to take a three to one series lead, coming
off of mkhil Granlin hat trick in that game four
walk off. In baseball on Tuesday Night, Fernando Tattis Junior
hits a walk off home run for the Padres six
or four over the Angels. Howve Baia's three run home
run in the eleventh inning Tiger's defeat the Red Sox
ten to nine. JP Crawford hits a RBI walkoff for
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the Mariners to defeat the Yankees two to one, and
Isaac Peretz had a walk off home run single home
run as the Astors defeat the Royals to to one.
The Athletics hit five home runs and had eighteen hits
to just destroy the Los Angeles Dodgers eleven to one. However,
some interesting news on the way. As Dodgers manager on Tuesday,
(27:35):
Dave Roberts announced Clayton Kershaw would make his season debut
on Saturday against the La Angels. Mike and Jason, back
to you. Thank you very much, thanks for everything tonight, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Jarden Man, have a great night. So we talked about
this last a few minutes ago about the situation involving
Pete Rose and Truless Joe Jackson, who are now eligible
for the Hall of Fame being reinstated by Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I'm pretty sure Jason, I'm pretty sure he has shoes
by now.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Uh yeah, Well he's been dead since the seventies, so
I'm sure they've enough to try to get a pair somewhere.
Uh So i'd stare at till the IGO's blonde. It's
good for my bat and ee uh now, I'm just
gonna get all the eight men outlines in in the
last hour. So we've had a couple of different discussions
about them and now that they are both reinstated and
(28:26):
eligible for the Hall of Fame? Are they going to
get in? And I am one hundred percent that they
will both get into the Hall of Fame because it's
the Veterans Committee that's going to vote on it. We
talked with John Paul Morosi, who joined us earlier in
the show, and he said, look, a lot of the
people on the Veterans Committee are people that have played
with Pete Rose in the seventies. So that's going to
happen now. The first time he's eligible, which is going
(28:48):
to be about a year and a half from now,
I can see the Veterans Committee not voting for him,
just as a I'm going to take a stance and
show you that I disagree with what they did that
neither of the you know, they shouldn't have bet on baseball,
they shouldn't have thrown the World Series. I'm going to
take a stance against that. But then they're gonna let
(29:08):
him in because really, you know, Pete Rose and Shoeless
Joe Jackson, all these guys, they did their time right,
They did their time with a lifetime ban from Major
League Baseball, and at that point, it's okay, they're going
to get in. Pete did his time, right, Pete, When
you talk throwing the World Series is one thing, Pete Rose,
gambling on baseball not quite that, right, So for Pete
(29:29):
it should be an easier discussion because it was. Hey,
Pete was gambling when there were rules saying you couldn't gamble.
But especially now that Major League Baseball and the NFL,
in the NBA all professional sports league, they're all in
bed with gambling. There's ads for gambling in games, right,
they tell you here, here's where to go, here, here's
how to gamble. Here, here's our advice for this game
(29:50):
that you have play by play guys reading gambling ads.
Because now of professional sports relationship with gambling, that line
has been blurred so much that even players who haven't
played in a long time still understand where the game
is at. Well, okay, I get that now that there's
gambling is there and if you run a foul of
rules with gambling in sports now you get a year suspension.
(30:13):
So Pete Rose, if it happened now, he probably would
have gotten a year suspension. Right, That's what players get
when they gamble illegally. Right, you gamble on games, I'm
supposed to gamble from a place you're not supposed to,
you get a year. Pete would have gotten a year,
right and that or would have gotten most of He
would have gotten the rest of the year when it
was figured out, and it would have been another year
after that that would have been Pete Rose's fate. But
then he would have been able to manage again, would
(30:35):
be able to get back in the game. So for
those two reasons, I see, it's one hundred percent that
they're both getting it. Now. Did Eddie see Cotton Buck
Weaver have the careers to get to the Hall of Fame?
To that you can debate that these guys were all
guys that didn't play, you know, much past their age
of thirty. So do they have the nap felch? Did
he have the numbers? I've been I've thrown three games,
only been paid for one, Like, did they have the
(30:57):
careers to get in the Hall of Fame? Probably not,
But you know, maybe Eddie c Cott did a little bit,
but shootless, Joe Jackson clearly one of the best players
to ever play the game. Like I see, he and
Pete Rose are both going to get in uh and
and within the next three years.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Both of them will get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, I have no doubt that that's where we end
up in the in this process, just a matter of when.
I think it would be interesting, since they.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Ever were officially on the ballot, if they were to
have to go through the other process right where you're
talking about cross generational voters. You know, with our esteemed
colleague Rob Parker is one of those guys to have
that kind of discussion. But we've certainly seen Veterans Committee
and look, my, my guy Harold Bain's benefited from it,
(31:42):
like like who's sitting on that panel and making the
decision and making the arguments foreign against as it goes through.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But again, you know, you've had.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
This long standing process and you'll never reconcile fully like
because you can't tell me that all of a sudden
Pete Rose became a manager and suddenly decided that day
he was gonna start betting on baseball, all right, That
that whole part of the sequencing is always, I don't know,
has been fairly poorly reported and discussed throughout the ages
(32:15):
or how he managed for that matter, ginning to inning.
But that's neither here nor there at this point, you
still look at forty two to fifty six, You still
look at Joe Jackson and the numbers put up that
will get him into the Hall. Whatever they put on
the plaque, that'll be an interesting secondary part of the
(32:35):
process if how much of a nod to those circumstances
are there. But certainly for the Hall of Fame when
we argue every year, it's like, wow, we need another
star in while all those other guys from that nineties era.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The greatest era are sidelined. Yeah you need star power.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, that'll that'll bring people to Cooper's down to discuss,
debate and so celebrate those.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Careers exit out about a Fresco exit swalling Dome. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio series
Just wait three more years and you'll see them get
in the Hall of Fame. Coming up next, boy, do
we have a couple of big hot takes coming off
another big night in the NBA coming your way next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Pacers in three. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. You know I was.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Having lunch today and uh, where was that?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Where is eton luncheon? Where is that having lunch today? McDonald's.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
No, no, no, no, no, no mobile McDonald No, I wish mobile.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
No where.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Can we get some money together and franchise those out?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Can we get a couple of those mobile McDonald's.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I think we have to pay the Saudi's if
we do that much, O, that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, we're gonna give a a plane in return, or
or or what if the plane is the mole McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh wow, how about that?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Get on a plane? Have McDonald's McDonald's on a plane.
Oh my god, I forget snakes. I'll meet McDonald's on
a plane. Oh yeah, there you go say that like
you haven't so.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Uh we're man McDonald's on a plane McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I'm sure I've done that. I'm sure, but I can't
believe I would have not been done eating it before
I even buckled in, Like I'm done.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I ate the quarter pounder. It's all done, it's all,
it's all finished. I had it all, but then you
had the second one.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Uh, I'm trying to pound was the appetizer I'm have
a quarter pound while I'm deciding what I want to eat.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, I'm just gonna eat that, and I forget.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm trying to think because I was like, oh my goodness,
because I thought I looked around to see if any
of you guys here, especially Tysher, because I was, uh,
Pam and I were at lunch and I got a
metal buck where I was eating lunch today anyway, wherever
we were, they played some band does this like heavy
metal version of Running Up that Hill? And they played it,
and I'm going, this is running up that It's like
(35:06):
a heavy metal version. I don't want to hear this stuff.
And I felt embarrassed because like I was kind of
into it in the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It sounds good.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm like, wait, these lyrics sound familiar.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Wait, this is that song.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can't stand Oh, man, I don't believe that. I
hate when people do that. And I was I was like,
oh my goodness, I can't believe that. Okay, great, now
I got running up the heill. It's a heavy metal
version run up the Help?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Jason, where'd you eat?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I wish I could remember. Now I'm trying to think
what did I have? I had chicken I had, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Was delicious chicken? Oh it was.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It was at a gastro pub near where we live,
and they were playing like they play rock songs, and
I've they played the song. I'm like, oh man, I
gotta listen to this. And actually the song is not bad,
all right better the other version of Tyser plays everything.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I just like the term gastro. It's Jason, I remember
where you ate? Jason is pretty good. Yeah, this is
a song.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
This is a song.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Who is this? That would be Kate Bush. It's not
Kate Busch. This is Kate without the Bush.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It sounds like, uh, it sounds like it's like simple
plan and this is Kate no Bush.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm addicted to you hard. Who is that? That's Kate
no Bush?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, very good? Are you're not gonna tell me? All right?
That's fine. That's funny, guys. But that was the song.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was a song right there that it tormented you
because you felt the beat and your pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Good and I'm like, yeah, but but I can't stand
the song.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's no resolve, No resolve, okay, and TJ definitely no
resolve for Jason Smith, who had to listen to that
song while they played.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It, Did it make it like your lunch less? No?
It it made me like myself less. Where'd you eat lunch?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A place called Gulp was where it was gulp like
gulp like big gulp, g u l.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
P, Yes, gulp today m gulp.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And now I'm gonna make sure that they don't play
that song anymore when I go back there. So two
big results in the NBA ten. The Thunder beat the
Nuggets one twelve, one oh five, a big final minute
from Sga, who delivers on a three to give the
Thunder a six point lead.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The Nuggets don't get any closer, and the thunderwent at
one twelve one oh five. Meanwhile, we watched the Cavaliers
go down despite a big night offensively from Donovan Mitchell,
coming back from injury, stays in the you know is
in the lineup, doesn't shoot all that well, but gives
you the good and bad of the Calves tonight in
one stretch where he hits a three, gets fouled making
(37:49):
a three, misses all three free throws with a minute
left to go. That really sensed the loss, but then
he hits another three just to keep it close.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It was maddening the thing.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
He left for a yeah, but came back and played
put up twenty five shots, So it was all on
his shoulders, you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Know, and not to think.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And that's the big take. When I look at both
of these games and compare them, is like, especially the
last couple of nights, seeing the clutch play we get
from Jalen Brunson, seeing the clutch play we get from
Tyre's Halliburton, who was phenomenal tonight, and the clutch end
of game performance tonight from Gildess Alexander. Like I get
(38:26):
when I watching the three of them, I get the
sense of calm that all of them have at the
end of games. They each have the ball in their
hands and they make the right decision, and if they
they don't, you live with it because it's not something
where I'm dribbling into trouble and I'm forcing up a
bad shot. Well, you live with a bad four shot
from your best player. Now, Brunson, SGA, Halliburton, all make
(38:49):
the right decisions in the final minutes of a game.
And this is not to say that Donovan Mitchell's bat,
but I don't get that same sense of calm from
him in the final minutes. I don't get that said
I'm going to make the right play. I get the
sense of I'm hot, give me the ball, I want
to shoot it like that, And Mitchell's a great player,
right and again, I don't want to come down on
two hour because the guy's a Mets fan. He loves
(39:09):
the Mets like I do. But I don't get the
level of superstarness. There's a difference, and where Mitchell is
is a level below because I don't get that end
of game sense that he's going to make the right call.
It's I'm a shooter and give me the ball and
I'm gonna make the shot. But watching him, watching his
body language for the three free throws at the end,
like if each one was worse than the last, and
(39:31):
he looked uncomfortable at the line, I'm like, you got
you missed that first one. You're an eighty percent free
throw shooter, and you miss three in a row. Okay,
eighty percent free throw you don't miss three in a row, Like, okay,
if you miss one, it's boy, how do you miss one?
But at least you hit two of them and it's
a four point game with a minute left to go.
But instead you miss all three. I don't get that
sense of end of game takeover, but a sense of
(39:55):
calm where I'm gonna make the right place. I don't
get that from Mitchell. I get that from the other
three guys.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
And that's the hard art for Mitchell is that this
carries over from you know, his years in Utah of
watching their early exits, even if you thought they had
a great squad, and look all that's say you won
sixty eight games, you had a huge lead in this
one and couldn't finish it, which is the story, you know,
overarching story of this NBA season. The other being the
(40:21):
three guys that you mentioned. They're rarefied air anymore. How
many closers do we really have?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, gotta like going to closure by committee in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
In the NBA, there are very few.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Guys that are going to knock down the shots and
get the ball in their hands. You're feeling comfortable they're
gonna give us the best chance to win. Jokic being
that on the other side, But beyond that.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Stratusfram by the way White Sox played the Reds today
ironic since we have the lifting of the band today.
So I think I'm gonna go home and watch eight
Men Out.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, good, pick it up.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Maybe I'll just watch up until the World Series because
I know how it ends. Yeah, ends and eight games
for Mike, Tom Jason coming up next to my buddy
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Speaking of ripping the knob off, we will get to
the big stuff tonight out of the NBA in a
few minutes. We've spend some time the last hour talking
a lot about the Cavaliers loss and now the Thunder
one game away from the Western Conference Finals. But today
was a big day in Major League Baseball. To another
(01:20):
day to get to talk about Pete Rose and shoeless
Joe Jackson, for me to watch Eight Men Out for
the five hundredth time in my life, and all day
I'm just thinking of all the great eight Men Out
lines I'm gonna run in the show tonight, and like
I haven't run it out like I thought it would
run at least like twenty five or thirty, and I
have because of the movies in my life that I
know the most, the most dialogue of you know, with
(01:42):
Caddy Shock and Cars and Top Gun a few good men,
like Eight Men Out is at the top because I
know I've seen that movie one hundred times. I've seen
it so many times after it came out and then
years after. It's just one of those movies that I
always love watching. It's always been, you know, and always
whenever somebody has a question about the nineteen nineteen White Sox,
(02:03):
they asked me, Hey, jameson Rabb, Dicky Kerr won one
game three. Uh yeah, we pitched a shutout. Uh yeah,
and you know he was a guy that was not
in on the fix, just so you know, nobody thought
they could win.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
He was nervous before the.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Game, but then he talked about how the first big
league game he ever went to Huey Jennings at a
home run of the ninth and kid gleats and pitched
a no hitter. Yeah, it's a very big deal. So
you will get only the money you deserve. So I
thought I'd run many more Eight Men Out lines than
I would. And it's such a it's such a forgotten
movie because it's you know, it's look, it deals with
(02:36):
the Black Sox scandal. Obviously Field of Dreams does as well,
but that's more about someone's you know, Kevin Costner's life
spoiler alert. And and how the you know, shoeless Joe
Jackson plays into what is a different story. Eight Man
Out is specifically about, you know, the White Sox throwing
the World Series in nineteen nine, Chicago politics, Chicago. Yeah,
And when I told my daughter, like we finally was,
(02:57):
she finally watched it, like a few months if I said,
this is thing for you and I because I've seen
this movie so many times. She goes, are you gonna
say every line in the movie? And I said, do
you want me to or not? No? She goes, who's it?
I said, okay, so okay, who would you know? I said, okay,
so it's Michael Rooker and yeah, John Cusack and dB
Sweeney and and uh David Straight. Then she's like, whoa
(03:21):
what all of these people were in this movie? Yeah,
it's like three you didn't have to you know, other
movies you would have straight there and from from allege
of their own and from the firm. She knows Charlie Sheen, Uh,
you know she knows John Cusack from John cus Like,
she was, yeah, oh yeah, don't forget Michael Lerner too,
you know him, remember him from this movie and all
(03:42):
the different watch.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
So she knows Mahoney Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well she knew she knew John Mahoney from uh from
say anything, I said, John, all of these people. I said, yes,
it's a phenomenal movie. She's like, all right, let's watch.
And I'm like, yeah, let's go. So he watched eight
Men Out? No, Like, what did you think that?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
She was, Wow, I can't believe it was that easy.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
To fix the World series. Don't forget Gordon clap NYPD Blue.
Yeah she didn't know Gordon clap I said, yeah, yeah,
your teacher about simple wits. Soon enough, I said, this
is Metavoyd. He would walk a hey and the and
the what what about? Uh?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
What about?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I said he was dating Donna Aben Dondo. You know
a different thing.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
People were went from Sesame Street. He was mister Noodle. Yeah, yeah, oh,
mister one of the mister noodles.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, it's got something forever. You remember Swede? He was
from Diehard too.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
She goes, yeah, he was one of the henchmen.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
And yeah, stud remember when we saw him at the
at the at the when when we were getting our
Christmas tree and we saw the guy Don Harvey who
played goes, Oh, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I said, yeah, that's him, that's Swede.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And you got all starstruck and acted all weird. Yeah,
Don Harvey, that's great.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Though.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
I can't get my daughters anywhere near a television with
this time. I could put one hundred bucks on top
of a bucket of popcorn and they're not sitting there
for ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
And the thing is no chance.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
I know, Don Harvey saw me and when I gave
him that double tank, he was like, I to go
eight men out or die Hard too. I was gonna
say both, but eight men out especially, I said, Sweet
is a hard guy. Like you know, this is mind going, okay,
say eight men out or die Hard too?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, one of those, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
He's probably still getting residual checks now and again from
the streaming service Away and they're not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Huge, no, no, And he was in the next to
last season A better Call Saul.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
But all of that to say, I mean getting recognized thirty.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Years out movie, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
I'd like to think I've come to grips with that,
and I'm happy that you recognize. Now if I've had
a long career and you're gonna run lines.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Oh yeah, dude, I'm fifty five other credit since then?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Can we do that scene of you and Chick in
the bathroom when you figure out the fix and you
tell him Freddy's in, even though Swede he's not even
gonna play, and you do with your hair and you go, Chick,
he's in. He's in What's Next? And here comes Christopher Lloyd.
Oh yeah, Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. Yeah, my god, Doc Brown,
I said yes. And do you remember the guy Billiam
harsh Goes, Yeah, yeah, he was the guy that stole
the car and Ferris Bueller.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes, this is the cast of this movie.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
She was.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
So it's a cast of legends. I mean they're everywhere.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
There's no question about it. Burns strictly bench material. I
won a few games, you lost a few more. But
you know a couple of things about this. You know,
first of all, why do we get this today? Why
is suddenly Pete Rose and Joe Jackson and the other
Black Sox eligible for the Hall of Fame. You look
down third base. Next year, Buck Weavers gonna be playing
his butt off. And it's pretty simple because it is
(06:32):
no coincidence that a month ago President Trump very vocally said, hey,
I think you had a meeting talk to Rob Manfred.
I think Pete Rose should be reinstated into Major League baseball.
And here we are a month later where Pete Rose
is reinstated in Major League Baseball. And we've talked about this,
and we got into this a bit with the Eagles
decision to go to the White House, where every sport knows,
(06:56):
Now if something happens and you appear to be at
odds with the White House. It's going to be a thing, right,
It's just it's going to be something public and it's
going to come up. And I'm sure the Eagles thought,
you know what, we're gonna go because we don't want
it to be if we don't want this to be
a storyline where the White House is upset with us
for not going and suddenly we have to deal with
publicity fall out of this. We're gonna go. If you
(07:16):
want to come, great, If you don't want to come,
don't come. Right, people have not come before to the
White House that you People didn't go to see Biden,
people didn't go to see Obama, people didn't go to
see Bush. It happens, right, So just but we're gonna
go to stay away from this. And I'm sure part
of that with what Rob Manford is well, okay, this
is a thing, and we're probably thinking about reinstating him
anyway because the lifetime ban is over it at the
(07:37):
time of his death, and you know, and look, and
I don't know I'm kind of projecting now, but obviously
with where we sit with with people being able to
stay in the country and not a lot of players
coming to the United States, and the Dominican Republican and
other countries want to make sure these players are allowed
to play and stay and that goes well. And I'm
sure that Rob Manford decided, Okay, it's not worth it
to get into it. I don't want this to become
(07:58):
a thing where I don't reinstate Pete Rose. And now
it becomes a thing at the Daily Press, Brie thing
or someone talking because look, Trump went in on Alcatraz,
became a three day story. We're going to reopen Alcatraz
because he probably saw that TV show on local TV
last week, and no, we're gonna reopen Alcatraz to do it.
So I'm sure that's where that's where sports groups and
sports leagues sitting now is like, Okay, everything can get
(08:20):
so hyper politicized. We're just gonna stay out of it.
And so here is. For years, it was never Pete
Rose canking in, Pete Rose canking in, chewless Joe Jackson
canking in. And now if you want to say, well,
Pete Rose just passed away. Uh Sholes Joe died a
long time ago. All the Black Saws players died. Well, okay,
yeah he's I don't think he's in Syracuse hanging out
with Jim Morrison. But all these Black Sox players died
(08:41):
a long time ago, right, So you can't sit here
and say, well, Pete Rose, no, no, Black Socks players
were dead for a long time. You could have done
this if you wanted to, but you didn't. And so
now you're doing it. There's no coincidence that here comes
a little nudge from President Trump on it, and now
here a month later, here are these players who are reinstated.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Now we go to the team thing when we talked
about it with the Eagles, is that you're going to
have people that vote on both sides of the aisles
as part of your organization in that locker room, in
the front offices, et cetera, so blanket decisions, and that
probably will ruffle some feathers behind the scenes. Likewise, it's
an institution. It's a historical thing to where you know,
(09:18):
I didn't have a lot of teams that said, hey,
we're not going to do these things, and not that
there isn't precedence for individuals, and certainly in the past
with this presidency as well. And you know, it becomes
public fodder.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
The thing is, there's a million stories that flow every day,
so it's usually pretty quickly forgotten something like this. But
to your point, when you're talking about the globalization of
sports and the amount of money, personnel, talent being called
from around the globe, Yeah, it's certainly something to that.
And I'm sure for Rob Manford, like, it's not like
(09:54):
he took more than three seconds to write the statement
that he did.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It was like a.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Clearly up in comment that he said to someone, Yeah,
clean that up.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Oh no, they put it out verbatim. How I felt
about that?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Oh man, you were supposed to put some flowery language
in there.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
What the hell are you say?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
But all of that say, yeah, I mean's the all right,
what's the greater good and greater statement being made if
we take a certain course of action in this case.
I don't know that I've heard a lot of clamoring
for Joe Jackson or the Black Sox players forever.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
As we talked with John Paul Morosi a little earlier
in the show, it's a museum, so people are represented
for feats, for streaks, for their prominence in different statistical categories.
Whether it's Pete Rose's hits or you know, Barry Bond's MVPs,
et cetera. Like they're represented, but there's obviously a difference.
(10:51):
And the league, or I should say, the voters, have
done an interesting job through the years picking and choosing
how they they had unicate those terms. But we'll leave
them for a separate time. You know, Barry and Roger
and Sammy and all of those guys versus some of
those others that have walked into the Hall of Fame,
(11:12):
and you will nod and wink and you know exactly
what I'm talking about there. But for these purposes, yeah,
I mean, it's it's indelicate the way the commissioner put
out the statement, but not altogether wrong. Right in terms
of all right, let's reevaluate this.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Say, a lifetime ban ends on pond the death of
the player, and that's all you have to say, Okay,
all right, And you can give a nod to the
office of the President without you know, really going out
of your way to say, you know, President Trump, President Trump,
I mean, he's going to take the credit for it,
but you can say, hey, you know, we we re
(11:50):
examined it. Right, that was a nudge and we reconvened. Whatever,
take whatever tax you need to again a better statement
than what you did, because I don't don't think anybody
rationally thinking this thing out would disagree with the all right,
it was a lifetime band bit cold, bit callous is
related to Hey, that was some It's like when Ron
(12:11):
Sandel got into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
The guy was pleading to be.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
In the Hall of Fame for years, then he dies
and all of a sudden, likeh it goes to the committee. Yeah,
that guy certainly was a Hall of Fame, There's no
question about it. That's the worst you can do. But
Pete Rose's family, extended family and friends and fans all
get to celebrate that, perhaps eventually if he has voted in.
Because there is that pesky little part of it that
(12:35):
still needs to come.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Well, we'll get to the voting part of it coming
up next, because I think a one both of these guys,
I mean Pete Rose and Shuless Joe Jackson are getting
in the Hall of Fame. But a little bit different
reason why we got that end the big story out
of the NBA today that I can't believe, and we
had stupid being a theme earlier last year with Rob Manford.
I can't believe people are actually saying this when it
(12:58):
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Speaker 1 (14:07):
Fox Sports Radio, The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon. Well dressed, hobo.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Now, we always.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Talk a lot about retirements here in sports and hanging
them up and leaving quitters. How about an unretirement. To
tell you about an unretirement? He's this more AI he
has been retteling. Maybe he has been retired since twenty seventeen.
Patrick Cuting after Patrick Hey, he was, hey, hey, can solve.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Your big man problem?
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Ewling and Rick Patino hugging after the Knicks win.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Lesson.
Speaker 5 (14:37):
I was once at the urinal with Patrick Ewing. Were
you well, wow, there were no dividers?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Oh wow? How do you think that one? You were intimidated?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Did he did he tap you on the head and say, hey,
how you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Nice to meet you? Just stop that oll when he
was done eating peanuts out of the uine.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Uh so, And again one of the most decorated careers
you will ever see.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Phil ja not Phil Jackson.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Daniel day Lewis coming out of retirement, not that announced
earlier today he is going to be acting in his
son's movie, So he is ending a seven well eight
year retirement from acting coming out to act right here.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
How great would this be those you're on the set
and you've you've agreed just sight unseen. Dad, I've got
this opportunity. I'm going to drink this picture. I'd love
you to fill this role. You're Daniel day Lewis, you
walked away. You're a method actor of the highest degree.
And then you get the material and you realize after
(15:40):
about three pages it's no good or you're totally just
gonna say, well, I'm doing this out go out of
my own you know, goodness of my heart from my son,
He's going.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
To make this the greatest thing of all time.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
A bloody bowling pin at the beginning of the first
scene of This Man.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Sounds like an out the script Homer wrote in The
Simpsons when Ron Howard says it's about a it's about
a robot that goes back in time for some reason,
and his best friend's a talking pie.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Legitimately it's one of those yeah, Dad, Dad, will you
do this?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (16:14):
And then he's in there and he's like I don't
even know how to get into this character. And and
the movie is called Milkshake.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
No it's not.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
It's called anemone. I live in an m and live
action Marlin. Yeah, that's what it is. It's actually coming back.
I'm writing a live action version of Finding. We're gonna
use real fish to Uh let's my dad has.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Been working on his underwater breathing for a long time.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Uh so, welcome back to acting, Daniel. That's fantastic, and.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Starts to drink milkshake. I drink your milk. I'm not
freaking at all.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
The Boys to the Arm one of the greatest musical
remixes that we ever. You think every time he goes
out to dinner wherever he's at, someone buys him a
milkshake and then he comes over and says, I want
to drink your milkshas.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Who he is? Now?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I don't spend a lot of time on gossip sites,
but I got a question. How often Daniel day Lewis
has been seen in public? That's not many people know
exactly who he is.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
I think a lot of people a lot sure.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I think he looks like just a gangly what is he?
Six feet tall? He can hide pretty well. Yeah, yeah,
but I think we got Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
He can't.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
He's not walking around with the top hat like he's
the butcher. He pay attention to me now, thanks Tom Cruise.
These guys can't go out Lewis, I'm sure can go
out without getting.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
He's not walking around with a knife tapping on a
glass eye. I mean, it's not what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
I think he lives in Europe, right, he's from He's
from England, so I'm sure when he goes out and
everybody knows who he is in England, I'm sure I'm
talking about oh here, Yeah no, I don't think. I
don't think he's here. I don't think he doesn't live.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But even overseas, I don't. I think they'd leave a
lot of come on.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I won three Award Academy Awards for Best Actor. I
think everybody knows who he is. I'm pretty sure I
think he can blend in. He's a kam Alien. You
see what he does with his work. He becomes that guy.
If he was walking around like Lincoln. You just said,
there's the crazy man dressed like Lincoln. He stole that
oscar from Tom Cruise in nineteen eighty nine. He's a
left foot and Tom Cruise was born in the fourth
(18:22):
of July. But then he did Cocktail the same year.
It's probably why he didn't win.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Uh so he got the hippy hippie shake.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I was going to vote for you, but then I
saw Cocktail and I said, wow.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Jason, I would never know who that was if he
walked by me. Who Tom Cruise, Well, no, I know Cruise.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Oh okay, you did. Daniel Dan Lewis, I have no idea.
Have you seen any of his movies Alsyser goes, you know,
the little Guy, the little Guy? Yeah, you know a
little guy.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
See his movies?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, okay, you would know. I think you would have seen.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
There Will be Blood at least fifty times he was. Yeah,
you would know.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Daniel way Lewis, Yeah, absolutely you will.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
If he was dressed like Bill the Butcher, maybe no,
but that's what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Like if he's in full regalia that dread that guy
or Lincoln, Hey it's Abraham Lincoln like, but he immerses himself.
Speaker 4 (19:05):
So like if he's just walking around and he's now
got his members only jacket, uh, some cavalry, he's just
wandering in the streets.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Yeah, so ri ip to anybody putting out a film
the same year, is this one coming out?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, you're not gonna win interesting credibility for his son. Sorry, sorry,
Glenn has already been prenominated for an oscar.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
You're not gonna win for Twisters, Glenn pal I'm sorry,
but but good luck on the Chad Powers thing. So
I actually just started watching Twisters with my younger daughter.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Neither of us have ever seen it, and.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
There was a scene very early in the movie where
he does one of those long stare, you know, looking
looking back, and it just goes on, Oh yeah, It's like, really,
when do you get to the range decided you had
to have that go an extra one, two three, or
it's like with that smirk on his face and like
(19:58):
come ons, wait you'll see the rain, Wait till the
rain shot that goes forever. Although you know they have
a release date now for Chad Powers.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, it's a new ted last up. I'm excited. Now.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
We talked about something stupid a little while ago, which
whitch Time, which was Rob Manford and his statement about hey,
when you're dead, you're no longer a threat to baseball.
We can reinstate. You sure something just as stupid has
been talked about a lot the last twenty four hours
when it comes to the draft lottery. Now, the draft
lottery last night and the Mavericks win. Remember I told
you Friday night, I don't care what the mathematic odds are.
(20:31):
The MAVs, the Sixers, or the Bulls are winning the
draft lottery. Zion in New Orleans has been a disaster.
You know, Wemby and san Antonio was good, but now
he's hurt. Hopefully he can come back. Prayers up for him.
But yeah, I don't think Cooper Flagg, the latest, you know,
the third generational talent in the last eight years, is
going to start his NBA career somewhere other than a
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big market heritage team. Then oh, here's the Mavericks, the
latest team to lose their superstar because of the Nico
Harrison trade. They get to reply with Cooper flag right now.
But this is not saying that the lottery is fixed
or the lottery is not because you're chance. I was
stunned last night. We had Mark Stein on and you
asked him about the lottery and this, and I said,
(21:13):
you know, I've known Mark Stein for a long time.
He's going to say, look, guys, the fixing of the
draft lottery. You're talking about something, And instead he said,
I don't know how Adam Silver is going to talk
about this and explain it away, because you see, it's
been happened so many times now, where players have been,
where teams have been able to replace stars, they've all
the big stars have gone to big markets.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
It's whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
But it's not about if you believe it's fixed or
if you don't believe it's fixed. What I want to
focus on is the amount of times I have seen
people say today you just want to throw out there
you know I was in the room, or I've been
there and I've seen it. There's no way the lottery.
I've been there, the lottery is not fixed. And I
want to say, you just want to say you were there,
(21:54):
because to say to say that is just stupid, because
what you're saying is, oh, when I was there, when
all the people were there watching the draft lottery, nothing
was fixed. Oh, Because that's when they're gonna fix it,
when reporters are there and when people are there watching
seeing every move you make when you're pulling the the
ping pong balls out and you figure out who gets
what picked that.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
They're not gonna fix it in front of you.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
If they're gonna fix it, it would be before they
do anything public with you. There'd be ways for that time.
The number of peoples that I was in the room,
you can't fix it. Oh right, right, So because they
didn't do it right in front of you, it means
that's just dumb, that's just absolutely dumb.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
Eye.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
Well, they would fix it in front, yes, because that's
how when you want to fix something, you do it
in front of as many people as possible. Oh, you know,
I thought we could fix this, my boy. There's a
lot of people here. Can can what do you guys
like to kind of distract them, like with the magic
trick or something, or get them to watch the game
on TV so I can fix the ping pong balls
behind you? I mean, make sure they don't turn around?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Can you do it?
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Just because I really gotta I gotta wait these ping
pong balls down so they come up for the Dallas
Mavericks like that. I mean, really, is that how it's done?
Is that how you think it's done?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:00):
I'm in the room and I've done Oh okay, right, right, right,
because that's exactly when they're gonna fix it, Like that's
just stupid.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Yeah, the categorical dismissiveness.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Of it all is the problem I have with it
right Where there's there's too much this, there's too much
of that. Are they subject to the same rules as
the California State lottery or super Lotto or whatever we're
doing when we watch the drug No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
But all of it's to say that it's just happened
way too frequently since the Patrick Ewing envelope. And I
know we've changed the process.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
They've changed the weighting, no pun intended, They've changed the
weighting of how teams are given their their chances. Right,
it's now three teams with a fourteen percent shot. All
of that to say, am I gonna come here and
immediately just pound the table saying that it's that it's
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all rigged? I just saying that I'd love a great
explanation from the commissioner. And that's what I asked Mark
Stein of You know, you don't have just one piece
of data, right. This is not an outlier with Cooper Flag.
It happened with Derrick rose one point eight percent chance.
It happened with Lebron going to Cleveland. It happened the
(24:19):
year after Lebron left Cleveland that the Cleveland gets the
number one pick. It happened with Zion, they had a
six percent shot after Anthony Davis got traded. There's just
so many circumstances where it's like, wow, that seems way
too convenient of a fix for the team that lost
said superstar to just be able to just go I
don't know, like the math on it just says, all right,
(24:43):
this is a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
You know, you start putting the calculation of it together
to try to allay the fears, and in the end,
if it's good for business, keep it going.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Everybody works right for the Mavericks.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Something we talked about after the trade of Luca, where
all the estimates of the losses from television deals and
and all of the overseas and endorsement opportunities and overseas
signage opportunities and carriage rights and all of that stuff. Well,
Cooper Flagg coming to Dallas in such a huge metroplex
(25:19):
fixes a lot of those financial ills right there. Oh,
and they still get the hundred million dollar cash savings
off of the Luca deal, but for all their other
rights where it looked like, wow, they're taking a bath
off this in the back end. So it's really foolhardy
even if you didn't like how well or not conditioned
he was in terms of getting through the end of
(25:40):
a season. But for people to just say while I
was in the room, like there's a there's a million ways.
I mean we've all watched enough sleight of hand and
go back to the sting, go through now you see
me go through any of the Hey, magician's secrets exposed
on Fox.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
I mean you've seen a.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Million different ways that you know slight a hand can
have you thinking you saw something when you didn't. Again
for the NBA dangerous business. Uh, but just saying hey,
I was in the room and nothing funny happens.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Like you don't know it didn't or didn't. Okay, great
because you're all because they didn't do it right in
front of you. Oh okay, that makes it. No, that's
just dumb. Uh. Hey, we got a big Hall of
Fame discussion come in your way in about ninety seconds.
But first Chris Burphett has what's trending in the Wide
World of Sports and night CP What do you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Well, we let's start with the NBA. Nikola Jokic had
forty four points. Wasn't enough. The Thunder claim the lead
and the nugget and defeat the Nuggets one twelve to
one oh five. They take a three to two series lead.
Donovan Mitchell was in the line for the Cavaliers. Wasn't
enough there either. The Pacers close out that series with
a one fourteen to one oh five victory. The Dallas
Stars and the Ice defeat the Winnipeg Jets three to
(26:53):
one to take a three to one series lead, coming
off of mkhil Granlin hat trick in that game four
walk off. In baseball on Tuesday Night, Fernando Tattis Junior
hits a walk off home run for the Padres six
or four over the Angels. Howve Baia's three run home
run in the eleventh inning Tiger's defeat the Red Sox
ten to nine. JP Crawford hits a RBI walkoff for
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the Mariners to defeat the Yankees two to one, and
Isaac Peretz had a walk off home run single home
run as the Astors defeat the Royals to to one.
The Athletics hit five home runs and had eighteen hits
to just destroy the Los Angeles Dodgers eleven to one. However,
some interesting news on the way. As Dodgers manager on Tuesday,
(27:35):
Dave Roberts announced Clayton Kershaw would make his season debut
on Saturday against the La Angels. Mike and Jason, back
to you. Thank you very much, thanks for everything tonight, Thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Jarden Man, have a great night. So we talked about
this last a few minutes ago about the situation involving
Pete Rose and Truless Joe Jackson, who are now eligible
for the Hall of Fame being reinstated by Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
I'm pretty sure Jason, I'm pretty sure he has shoes
by now.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Uh yeah, Well he's been dead since the seventies, so
I'm sure they've enough to try to get a pair somewhere.
Uh So i'd stare at till the IGO's blonde. It's
good for my bat and ee uh now, I'm just
gonna get all the eight men outlines in in the
last hour. So we've had a couple of different discussions
about them and now that they are both reinstated and
(28:26):
eligible for the Hall of Fame? Are they going to
get in? And I am one hundred percent that they
will both get into the Hall of Fame because it's
the Veterans Committee that's going to vote on it. We
talked with John Paul Morosi, who joined us earlier in
the show, and he said, look, a lot of the
people on the Veterans Committee are people that have played
with Pete Rose in the seventies. So that's going to
happen now. The first time he's eligible, which is going
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to be about a year and a half from now,
I can see the Veterans Committee not voting for him,
just as a I'm going to take a stance and
show you that I disagree with what they did that
neither of the you know, they shouldn't have bet on baseball,
they shouldn't have thrown the World Series. I'm going to
take a stance against that. But then they're gonna let
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him in because really, you know, Pete Rose and Shoeless
Joe Jackson, all these guys, they did their time right,
They did their time with a lifetime ban from Major
League Baseball, and at that point, it's okay, they're going
to get in. Pete did his time, right, Pete, When
you talk throwing the World Series is one thing, Pete Rose,
gambling on baseball not quite that, right, So for Pete
(29:29):
it should be an easier discussion because it was. Hey,
Pete was gambling when there were rules saying you couldn't gamble.
But especially now that Major League Baseball and the NFL,
in the NBA all professional sports league, they're all in
bed with gambling. There's ads for gambling in games, right,
they tell you here, here's where to go, here, here's
how to gamble. Here, here's our advice for this game
(29:50):
that you have play by play guys reading gambling ads.
Because now of professional sports relationship with gambling, that line
has been blurred so much that even players who haven't
played in a long time still understand where the game
is at. Well, okay, I get that now that there's
gambling is there and if you run a foul of
rules with gambling in sports now you get a year suspension.
(30:13):
So Pete Rose, if it happened now, he probably would
have gotten a year suspension. Right, That's what players get
when they gamble illegally. Right, you gamble on games, I'm
supposed to gamble from a place you're not supposed to,
you get a year. Pete would have gotten a year,
right and that or would have gotten most of He
would have gotten the rest of the year when it
was figured out, and it would have been another year
after that that would have been Pete Rose's fate. But
then he would have been able to manage again, would
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be able to get back in the game. So for
those two reasons, I see, it's one hundred percent that
they're both getting it. Now. Did Eddie see Cotton Buck
Weaver have the careers to get to the Hall of Fame?
To that you can debate that these guys were all
guys that didn't play, you know, much past their age
of thirty. So do they have the nap felch? Did
he have the numbers? I've been I've thrown three games,
only been paid for one, Like, did they have the
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careers to get in the Hall of Fame? Probably not,
But you know, maybe Eddie c Cott did a little bit,
but shootless, Joe Jackson clearly one of the best players
to ever play the game. Like I see, he and
Pete Rose are both going to get in uh and
and within the next three years.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Both of them will get in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, I have no doubt that that's where we end
up in the in this process, just a matter of when.
I think it would be interesting, since they.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Ever were officially on the ballot, if they were to
have to go through the other process right where you're
talking about cross generational voters. You know, with our esteemed
colleague Rob Parker is one of those guys to have
that kind of discussion. But we've certainly seen Veterans Committee
and look, my, my guy Harold Bain's benefited from it,
(31:42):
like like who's sitting on that panel and making the
decision and making the arguments foreign against as it goes through.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
But again, you know, you've had.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
This long standing process and you'll never reconcile fully like
because you can't tell me that all of a sudden
Pete Rose became a manager and suddenly decided that day
he was gonna start betting on baseball, all right, That
that whole part of the sequencing is always, I don't know,
has been fairly poorly reported and discussed throughout the ages
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or how he managed for that matter, ginning to inning.
But that's neither here nor there at this point, you
still look at forty two to fifty six, You still
look at Joe Jackson and the numbers put up that
will get him into the Hall. Whatever they put on
the plaque, that'll be an interesting secondary part of the
(32:35):
process if how much of a nod to those circumstances
are there. But certainly for the Hall of Fame when
we argue every year, it's like, wow, we need another
star in while all those other guys from that nineties era.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
The greatest era are sidelined. Yeah you need star power.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah, that'll that'll bring people to Cooper's down to discuss,
debate and so celebrate those.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Careers exit out about a Fresco exit swalling Dome. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio series
Just wait three more years and you'll see them get
in the Hall of Fame. Coming up next, boy, do
we have a couple of big hot takes coming off
another big night in the NBA coming your way next
right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Pacers in three. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten
pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific. You know I was.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Having lunch today and uh, where was that?
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Where is eton luncheon? Where is that having lunch today? McDonald's.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
No, no, no, no, no, no mobile McDonald No, I wish mobile.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
No where.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Can we get some money together and franchise those out?
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Can we get a couple of those mobile McDonald's.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
Yeah, I think we have to pay the Saudi's if
we do that much, O, that's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Yeah, we're gonna give a a plane in return, or
or or what if the plane is the mole McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Oh wow, how about that?
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Get on a plane? Have McDonald's McDonald's on a plane.
Oh my god, I forget snakes. I'll meet McDonald's on
a plane. Oh yeah, there you go say that like
you haven't so.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Uh we're man McDonald's on a plane McDonald's.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I'm sure I've done that. I'm sure, but I can't
believe I would have not been done eating it before
I even buckled in, Like I'm done.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I ate the quarter pounder. It's all done, it's all,
it's all finished. I had it all, but then you
had the second one.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Uh, I'm trying to pound was the appetizer I'm have
a quarter pound while I'm deciding what I want to eat.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
No, I'm just gonna eat that, and I forget.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I'm trying to think because I was like, oh my goodness,
because I thought I looked around to see if any
of you guys here, especially Tysher, because I was, uh,
Pam and I were at lunch and I got a
metal buck where I was eating lunch today anyway, wherever
we were, they played some band does this like heavy
metal version of Running Up that Hill? And they played it,
and I'm going, this is running up that It's like
(35:06):
a heavy metal version. I don't want to hear this stuff.
And I felt embarrassed because like I was kind of
into it in the very beginning.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
It sounds good.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
I'm like, wait, these lyrics sound familiar.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Wait, this is that song.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
I can't stand Oh, man, I don't believe that. I
hate when people do that. And I was I was like,
oh my goodness, I can't believe that. Okay, great, now
I got running up the heill. It's a heavy metal
version run up the Help?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Jason, where'd you eat?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I wish I could remember. Now I'm trying to think
what did I have? I had chicken I had, uh.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Was delicious chicken? Oh it was.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
It was at a gastro pub near where we live,
and they were playing like they play rock songs, and
I've they played the song. I'm like, oh man, I
gotta listen to this. And actually the song is not bad,
all right better the other version of Tyser plays everything.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I just like the term gastro. It's Jason, I remember
where you ate? Jason is pretty good. Yeah, this is
a song.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
This is a song.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Who is this? That would be Kate Bush. It's not
Kate Busch. This is Kate without the Bush.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
It sounds like, uh, it sounds like it's like simple
plan and this is Kate no Bush.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
I'm addicted to you hard. Who is that? That's Kate
no Bush?
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Kay?
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Okay, very good? Are you're not gonna tell me? All right?
That's fine. That's funny, guys. But that was the song.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
That was a song right there that it tormented you
because you felt the beat and your pretty.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Good and I'm like, yeah, but but I can't stand
the song.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
It's no resolve, No resolve, okay, and TJ definitely no
resolve for Jason Smith, who had to listen to that
song while they played.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
It, Did it make it like your lunch less? No?
It it made me like myself less. Where'd you eat lunch?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
A place called Gulp was where it was gulp like
gulp like big gulp, g u l.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
P, Yes, gulp today m gulp.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And now I'm gonna make sure that they don't play
that song anymore when I go back there. So two
big results in the NBA ten. The Thunder beat the
Nuggets one twelve, one oh five, a big final minute
from Sga, who delivers on a three to give the
Thunder a six point lead.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
They don't.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
The Nuggets don't get any closer, and the thunderwent at
one twelve one oh five. Meanwhile, we watched the Cavaliers
go down despite a big night offensively from Donovan Mitchell,
coming back from injury, stays in the you know is
in the lineup, doesn't shoot all that well, but gives
you the good and bad of the Calves tonight in
one stretch where he hits a three, gets fouled making
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a three, misses all three free throws with a minute
left to go. That really sensed the loss, but then
he hits another three just to keep it close.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It was maddening the thing.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
He left for a yeah, but came back and played
put up twenty five shots, So it was all on
his shoulders, you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Know, and not to think.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
And that's the big take. When I look at both
of these games and compare them, is like, especially the
last couple of nights, seeing the clutch play we get
from Jalen Brunson, seeing the clutch play we get from
Tyre's Halliburton, who was phenomenal tonight, and the clutch end
of game performance tonight from Gildess Alexander. Like I get
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when I watching the three of them, I get the
sense of calm that all of them have at the
end of games. They each have the ball in their
hands and they make the right decision, and if they
they don't, you live with it because it's not something
where I'm dribbling into trouble and I'm forcing up a
bad shot. Well, you live with a bad four shot
from your best player. Now, Brunson, SGA, Halliburton, all make
(38:49):
the right decisions in the final minutes of a game.
And this is not to say that Donovan Mitchell's bat,
but I don't get that same sense of calm from
him in the final minutes. I don't get that said
I'm going to make the right play. I get the
sense of I'm hot, give me the ball, I want
to shoot it like that, And Mitchell's a great player,
right and again, I don't want to come down on
two hour because the guy's a Mets fan. He loves
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the Mets like I do. But I don't get the
level of superstarness. There's a difference, and where Mitchell is
is a level below because I don't get that end
of game sense that he's going to make the right call.
It's I'm a shooter and give me the ball and
I'm gonna make the shot. But watching him, watching his
body language for the three free throws at the end,
like if each one was worse than the last, and
(39:31):
he looked uncomfortable at the line, I'm like, you got
you missed that first one. You're an eighty percent free
throw shooter, and you miss three in a row. Okay,
eighty percent free throw you don't miss three in a row, Like, okay,
if you miss one, it's boy, how do you miss one?
But at least you hit two of them and it's
a four point game with a minute left to go.
But instead you miss all three. I don't get that
sense of end of game takeover, but a sense of
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calm where I'm gonna make the right place. I don't
get that from Mitchell. I get that from the other
three guys.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
And that's the hard art for Mitchell is that this
carries over from you know, his years in Utah of
watching their early exits, even if you thought they had
a great squad, and look all that's say you won
sixty eight games, you had a huge lead in this
one and couldn't finish it, which is the story, you know,
overarching story of this NBA season. The other being the
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three guys that you mentioned. They're rarefied air anymore. How
many closers do we really have?
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, gotta like going to closure by committee in Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
In the NBA, there are very few.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Guys that are going to knock down the shots and
get the ball in their hands. You're feeling comfortable they're
gonna give us the best chance to win. Jokic being
that on the other side, But beyond that.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Stratusfram by the way White Sox played the Reds today
ironic since we have the lifting of the band today.
So I think I'm gonna go home and watch eight
Men Out.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Okay, good, pick it up.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Maybe I'll just watch up until the World Series because
I know how it ends. Yeah, ends and eight games
for Mike, Tom Jason coming up next to my buddy
Ben Mall. One of this is Fox Sports Radio nix
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