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February 18, 2025 40 mins

Jason and Mike got two BIG stories out of Yankees and Red Sox camp. The guys debate if Mac Mcclung deserves an NBA roster spot. Tee Higgins mom said whaa?!? And Aaron Rodgers takes desperation to a whole new level.

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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well dressed, hobo.

Speaker 4 (00:59):
So we're just the.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Beginning of spring training and already two large stories that
are going to have a huge effect on the season,
and they involved two of the biggest teams in baseball.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
No, it was great.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
One Soto at his press conmerce today talking about the
Mets and the vibe. It was awesome. Aaron Judge saying,
I disagree with Sodo. I think we have a better
chance to win here. Fine, what do you expect me
to say? This is not that conversation. But you were
so excited about the Sodo Olay like Soto. Yeah, we're back.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
We're ready.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's like, no, sorry, buddy, you got knocked off of
every headline.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
It's so exciting, it's so exciting.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
But two big headline again, two of the biggest teams
in baseball today. And I'm telling you I'm already ready
to hear one Star is out for the season.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
He's not a mat It's not said star.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Oh stop, you said you said it in your words? Okay, okay,
who is it? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
He is using your words against I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
See you in the NLCS again, and this time we'll
left money on the field instead of the money you're getting.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Is watching a replay last year we did?

Speaker 4 (02:08):
Okay, that's why I'll see I'll see you that. We'll
see that.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Uh when when Shawn and Ay is pitching against the Almamoto,
everybody says, look at the money.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
And then Kershaw comes in and closes it all out,
and then Kofax comes in out of that, and then
your nemesis oral her shy.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
Kofax will brush a couple of guys back Sandy's eighty seven.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I'm still gonna knock you out. It's gonna knock you down.
How great would that be? I still got a couple
of throws.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Left in this arm man again.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
One of the biggest thrills of my dad's life when
I brought him to see Sandy Kofax speak called Safe
at Home. Oh, about fifteen years ago, when when Joe
Tory was doing this event and he asked Sandy Kofax
to come and be the speaker, and he came and spoke.
It's like, Sandy Kofax is coming to this and it
was it was downtown l A. I brought my dad
to go, Dad, I got a secret for surprise. Where
you We're going somewhere. It says, okay, I go, you're

(02:58):
gonna see Joe Tory because y fan, my daddy does
all right, ago, but there's somebody else you're gonna.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
See and Kofax Himsody goes, WHOA. He had no idea
it was going to be.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
It was like a little kid reduced to putty. He
was because here's what he did. Like it's a big
audience in the crowd and we're watching it's a whole
big thing.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
And the late T. J.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Simers at LA Times is interviewing Joe Tory and Sandy
Kopax and they're just telling baseball stories. And the first
story he tells is that that uh TJ. Simers asked
Sandy KOPHI is a Sandy, did you throw it Willie Mays?

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Did you tell me? I know you threw it Willie Mays.
You're like, whoa.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
He's starting right out of the gate, And Sandy Kofax
tells this funny story about how you know, yeah, I'll
admit I did right, just but you couldn't hit Willie.
You couldn't hit him. That was the most impressive thing
I ever thought about Willie Mays. You couldn't hit him.
You could throw it for a guy that digs in
as good as what. You couldn't hit Willy Mays. You
just couldn't do it right. So he tells the story

(03:49):
and everybody last and he stops, and there's a dead
spot and my dad just says it because he's so
in and my dad just goes, yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
You couldn't hit him.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Everybody hears it in the tire auditorium, like Dad, Dad,
come on, dad, let's stop.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
Now you're in your sixties. Listen. Yeah, you couldn't hit him.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I'm trying to find it. He was never hit. A
quick response was that he was never hit by a
pitch in a playoff or.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
World Series game. Now, I'm trying to figure out howfect
said you couldn't hit him. I tried a couple of
times to send him.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
He couldn't hit him. You couldn't hit him. He was
impossible to hit him.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Like, wow, that's awesome. But he's like an avenger.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Yeah, that's where the that's where the good stories from
my dad and the Yankees. And because today it was
revealed that gen Carlos Stanton has not swung a bat
in four weeks. Wait, has swung about in four weeks? No,
because he's got such pain in both of his elbows,
he can't swing a bat. It's almost like a carpal

(04:51):
tunnel type situation where they're figuring it out. But this
is a guy that shows up to spring training and
he hasn't been able to swing a bat in a month. Okay,
if that if you show up to spring training and
you're that hurt that you can't swing a bat, and
obviously you wait this long to figure it out. How
much is he really gonna play this year? I'm waiting

(05:13):
to hear gin Carlo Stanton and it probably won't be
out for the year, but I'm waiting to hear jin
Carlo stan out for a long time, Like, don't even
ask me he's coming back. He's got really bad elbow injuries.
He's not gonna and then at some point during the
season it will be one of those understood situations that
he's not going to play this year. Like it reminds
me when cespit has showed up to spring training for
the Mets. Oh, I got spurs in both my heels.

(05:36):
I can't play, and then suddenly I'd have operations on
his heels. He didn't play for a whole year. It
was a horrible contract the Mets gave him. But that's
kind of what this reminds me of. What you show
up at spring training, can't swing a bat, haven't done
it for a month. How much is he going to
be in the lineup? And they were the Yankees are saying, hey,
we let one Soto go. Yes, we had other guys
we brought in, but we need you to be that
masher behind judge now and you had a big year

(05:58):
last year and now we need you. And now you're
talking about taking the second biggest slugger out of the lineup, Like, honestly,
when are we going to see him play if he's
out for the year. I'm not gonna be surprised.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, the report today was that he dealt with it
as best he could last year. So playing through the
full season now, quick google AI report medial epicondolitis golfer's elbow. Okay,
so it's a tendon ische so not tennis elbow, but
golfers elba elbow. But both elbows, Yeah, both elbows, so

(06:31):
it's intended. Cardilitis is intent What did I? I is
epicondulightis epicondolitis is epicondulight I epicondulight like epicond light eye.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It sounds like.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Or we could make it someone who's a knock knock,
who's there epecondal light I epiconli who eperconna lied? I
don't know, trying to go stuck in an l stuck
in low die again, I don't know. So I guess

(07:09):
if you're Sandiegians carrying the bat all the way through
the zone with both arms. That you're getting into emotion,
competitive stress, if you're hitting the cage is a ton
and whatever over the course of a year.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's brutal, but it's okay because
in the field he'll be oh wait, oh wait, wait
oh wait, if only.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
He can hide him in right, tell him what are
we waiting for? He's not going to catch your telling
you man, he's not.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
He's really I don't know when he's and if he's
gonna play this year. Like that's that's how big a
deal this is right here now. Luckily for the Yankees,
the Red Sox are saying, huh, I see your John
Collars Stanton problem. And I raised you one Rafael Devers problem.
It was just a couple of days ago. Hey, Red
Sox lineup looks awesome. Look at what they did. Yeah,
they go and get Alex Bregman, who's still an elite

(08:01):
ish offensive player and still a Gold Glove third baseman.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
And the lineup that lineup mashes right.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
And the pitching is kind of middle of the pack
for the Red Sox, but the lineup mashes I said,
they're gonna be a wildcard team.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
They're gonna score enough runs. They're gonna be a lot
of fun.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
Well maybe one of their best players, if not their
best player, is not.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Quite happy right now.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Rafael Devers, who you know they're paying three hundred million
dollars to the lays third base. Yeah, you would think
that the Red Sox would have a real conversation with
him about, Hey, when Alex Bregman signs, yes, we love
you at third base. But Bregman's a gold Glove third baseman,
He's gonna be the third baseman. Devers said today at

(08:45):
camp quote, third base is my position. It's what I play.
I don't know what their plans are, the Red Sox.
We had a conversation. I made it clear on what
my desires were. Whatever happens from here, I don't know.
Then he gets asked if he's willing to become a
designated hitter. Before his interpreter even relaid the question, he said, no, okay,

(09:07):
so I'm playing third base or I'm not playing anywhere,
not a designated hitter. He sounds like I'd rather be
traded than play someplace other than third base. So now
you are the Red Sox, and you have hit spring training,
and you have at least one unhappy player who all,
by the way, happens to be your best player, because
how is how is he gonna solve this? You're gonna

(09:28):
move Bregman the guy's goal clube third basement. Did you
have a conversation with him saying, Hey, if if Devers
doesn't want to move, will you move? I'm a third baseman.
Oh okay, here's one hundred and twenty million dollars. Like
you know, both players are gonna wind up being unhappy
no matter what happens, because one's gonna say, I'm keeping
this guy from here, but I'm happy to be playing it.
So you have hit a situation where, if you're the

(09:48):
Red Sox, you have to know your guy. You have
to know Hey, let's make sure that you know. Let
let's look at our depth chart. Oh, I forgot our
best player plays third base. Let's make sure he's cool
with moving positions. Let's make sure we do that right
Like this, this offseason, the Mets talked to Mark Vientos
and said, hey, if we don't sign Peede Alonzo, we

(10:09):
want you to move to first base. Okay, probably not
what he wanted to do. He made a big improvements
at third base last week. That was one of the
best young hitters in baseball. But I'll move to first base.
Started taking some reps at first base. Now, don't have
to worry about that because Alonzo's back. But you have
to do that. I mean the Devors. I mean this
is not just hey, I'm a third baseman. We have
to figure something out. This is I'm a third baseman.

(10:29):
You make a decision like if I'm another team. I
call the Red Sox tomorrow and go, hey, so never
seems unhappy. We got some prospects for you. We got
some good players. You got a pretty deep line. We
got a we got a pitcher for you. You want
a good do you want a big starting pitcher? Here,
we'll take dev We'll take that salary. He's twenty eight
years old. He's a bleeping superstar. I call them tomorrow

(10:49):
because this is not just hey, I'm a little unhappy.
We have to coexist. This is I play third base
and nowhere else. How could I win?

Speaker 4 (10:57):
If you win?

Speaker 1 (10:58):
You know, if you win, how could I win? Okay,
stand that, right, you win? I can't win, right, understand that.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Now.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
The other part of it is he made twelve errors
last year, but there were a ton of reports heading
into the season how much work he'd done in the
offseason for his defense, fewest errors committed in the year
as a team at third base, they still had the
sixth most at the position across Major League Baseball. But
the boy, being the guy, busted his ass so like

(11:24):
that was part of the Hey, we're paying him to
be the anchor at the hot corner going forward, right,
He said he studied all sorts of Nolan Arenado and
other third baseman's foot techniques and everything else to try
to make himself a better player. And for the last
what since twenty nineteen, offensively, he's been one of the
best in the game. RBI count down a little bit

(11:46):
last year, but as a team, not necessarily the same
Congo line that you're used to. All that being said,
you paid him three hundred million US. Yes, I mean
you have played that position, and look, but you would,
but you would think you're talking to him and his
agent whoever else before we say, wow, Bregman's still on
the market, because it's not like it was. You know,
you got twenty four hours. Yeah right, it's the blue

(12:07):
Light special. I gotta decide. Amy buying it or not.
Something else is going to be at that end cap tomorrow.
So I got to dive in. No, Bregman was on
the market a while.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, you get it?

Speaker 1 (12:16):
What not like, hey, this is brand new and Alex
Corus said today, Hey, we have solutions out there, like
Bregman could wind up at second or third and Endevor's
can play third or dh Okay, hang on a second,
Is that really going to make both of them happy?

Speaker 3 (12:29):
No?

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Probably make both them happy.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
And there's very there's very few tenants I believe as
a coach that are universal. Right, there's always if I
have a system for something that can work with this
certain number of players, this system can work here, this
attitude can work with this team. You have to adjust
to who is what your personnel is. But one of
the things I went from youth coach youth coach all
the way up is that a happy player is a

(12:51):
good player.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Right. An unhappy player is not a good player. They're
in their head.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
A happy player is a good player. Tell me that
both and Devers are coming to camp happy with this, No,
because they're upset with what they have to do. I
have to learn a new position. They're also upset with
ego what it's going to be like for the other
guy because they're both highly paid, Like, how does how's
this going to work? Do you just come what a
gold glove i'd call one of the reasons you just

(13:18):
gave them.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
Three years and one hundred twenty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
Is is excellence in that position? Oh wait, we already
had a guy.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, good luck, good luck with that. I'm telling you
call the Red Sox, call it red Hayes.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
I do like that.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Fired up though, you guys not happy as opposed to
just oh we'll talk through it or no, that's my position.

Speaker 4 (13:36):
No, he said, they called me out of Convererce. They
know what I wanted.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
So it's not like he can say, well, I gave
the green light to it, saying I'll move somewhere. He said, no,
they said me, and they does say, hey, you play
third No, no, no, no, I play third base. Okay, well
we'll make it work. We'll go get a bragman to
make it work. Oh okay, that's a big thing right there.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
I made for one hundred and twenty million dollars. I
think I'd make it work short term. But if I
had grandiose expectations that not only am I already looking
at because it's.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Only a three year deal, I'm a gold glove. Third basement,
what are we gonna do? We're gonna play it. Second, wait,
why that does that? That's like a Mets. That's like
a Mets years ago pre Cohen thing to do. Hey,
you're really good. We're gonna move your position.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
We're gonna prove that you're versatile and then your marketability
for your next deal. Let me tell you.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
It's off the charts.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
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Speaker 4 (14:36):
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Speaker 1 (15:24):
So the NBA All Star Game has been slightly criticized
in the last I missed a few days, like, not
a lot of criticism today, very tepidly. I was really
dialed in all forty eight hours. No, No, there's been
a you know, apparently a couple of people weren't big
fans of the All Stary.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
But it's very tight. It's too very tight.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
I mean, I'm sorry they didn't get what they needed
out of this not a stellar event. Yeah, it's saying
you had comedians doing play by play.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Too much.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Kevin Hart, there's two little best ball. There's too much cursing.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
The guys out, shut up and let me play basketball already.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Now it's funny you say that because this is this
is a story that I I I failed to grasp
why this hasn't happened all right now, this weekend, Mac
McClung won his third straight Slamm Dunk Championship, right, key, no, prop,
I mean.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
To every day. Yeah, he's like yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
He was out like Gallagher smashing water melons and I'm
dunking a basketball.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Sure, he started handing out everybody, everyone chose.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
To everybody, everybody in the front roads, wearing them on
picture of there.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
Like I'm at water World and Disney.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Uh So he wins his third straight Slam Dunk contest.
So he's got three Slam Dunk Championships.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
And he's widely viewed as this is the best dunker
of a generation.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
He's playing in five generation, five NBA game, generation generation
talent in dunking the basketball. It's like he's could be
on his own End One Tour with like the Professor
and everybody from the early two thousands.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Yeah, we get the End One Tour going.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
It's the official DJ.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
But Mac McClung is one of the most exciting I
can't say players because he's played in five games in
three years. He's one of the most exciting stars the
NBA has, and yet he can't get on the floor.
And I don't understand why. I don't understand why he
can't play a little bit, why the NBA can't capitalize

(17:32):
on his stardom. I don't understand he can't get on
the floor for the magic.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Okay, I get it right, But.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
There what a seven seed right now?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Right?

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean, but really, he can't play any minutes. He
can't play a few minutes a game. He can't give
you something in garbage time or something. Bronnie is playing minutes,
right Bronnie is playing minutes. Mac McClung is somebody that
people will come to the arena to see. And it's
three years now, and I yeah, you have to develop
for a little while. But this guy's got crazy athleticism.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
Here's a gen league NBAP can't get in a game.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Like if you're Adam Silver And I'm I'm not a
believer that a commissioner should come in and get involved
in stuff, but I want to come in and say, hey, Orlando,
if he can't play for you, let's get him somewhere
where he can get on the floor, because maybe he's
really good and he's something that can help another team
and help the NBA because he would help people would
want to see his dunking highlights to night if he

(18:25):
gets in the game. There's a lot of bad teams
in the NBA. Man, you could send him to the Wizards.
He could play thirty minutes a night already. Okay, why
can't he send him somewhere where he can play. This
is a guy that you know once a year, gets
a lot of attention, and what he does he does terrifically.
I get that you're not gonna put him on the floor.

(18:46):
He can't just jump onto the thunder and say, hey,
guess what are you gonna play alongside SGA boy, he
could luck getting shots from him, but bottom feeder teams,
teams that aren't going anywhere. He's got to be able
to get on the floor. I don't even know how Wizard,
I don't see how he can't get on the floor
for Ortlanta. This is where the NBA has got to
get involved and say, Okay, if he's not working out
for you, let's find a way to get him somewhere
you can get some minutes.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
And they should do that for him as well. If
you're not playing here.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Hey, clearly the Wizards will have minutes for him, right,
many teams will have minutes for mac McClung because of
the the attention he brings the desired people out.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
They'll sell jerseys, they will they you know, you don't know.
And he goes flying through the air.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Now it's levy Osa, not levy Osaw. She's a nightmare.
So that's something that is a This is he's a
he's a commodity that the NBA has decided to say, Yeah,
we're just gonna let him sit idle, Like.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
How do you how do you do that?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
No movie reference?

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And stone unturned man, we've been talking about no sperads
to a bunch. I mean, Silver has been compared Get
those bony fingers the shadow makes makes mclung move. It
also goes back to something any long.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Don't you see Adam Silver in a top hat and
a big long long coat in in nos Faraitoo And
he's coming out like, Hey, let's have a tournament in
which we have the most powerful vampires.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
All right, it'll be a mid season.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Vampire tournament, right Mega, We'll give a big trophy to
the vampire that beats all the other vampires. What about
the end of the season vampire tournament. No, we're talking
to have that, but this will be a mid season
vampire tournament. We're gonna have to kick it all off, right,
and I'll interview with all the vampires.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
We'll talk to them all about this. Yeah, as long
as we get.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
Blade, I'm cool.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
But like longtime listeners of the show, and you guys
have heard this, Blade versus Edward, that'll be the first round.

Speaker 4 (20:30):
One blade. We'll see who wins.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
My mom's old thing was anything good, good new, It
would be unused. It's like, Wow, you bought that pot.
That was a great deal. You found that at a
you know, a thrift store. It's a you know, a
luck Russett. You got that one. But I mean you
got the wife doves the dollar right, It's like, what's it?
What's it doing sitting in this Cabinet's like, but you

(20:52):
made a nice pot.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
You made a stum. I mean it's.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Perfect, Like, nah, save it for good.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
It's like, no, come.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
On, why is the other stell gonna be better than
this stud We're.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Just two consenting adults making a stew That's what's going
on here buster making a stew but it's like the
McClung thing.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
He's like, you know what, we're just gonna leave him
there as a break glass in case of emergency. And
every year, damn it, it seems like for the Dunk Contest,
we need to break the glass. This year that went
so far as to, hey, we need the Kia, they
need a new activation as a sponsor of these events.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
I'm not saying he's got to play twenty five minutes, say,
although with the Wizards he could, but like at some
point doesn't he deserve because it's it's just like in
the NFL we talk about quarterbacks, right, You draft a
quarterback and you can see him in practice all you want.
You can give him all the reps with the ones
you want, You give him all the reps in the preseason,
you want, all the joint practices, you can give him
all the reps you want. Maybe you maybe he looks good,

(21:51):
maybe he doesn't. How we're not sure if he's ready.
You don't know about a quarterback until you put him
in the game and then when the lights go on
and you never know. That happens with a lot of guys.
Mac McClung might be one of those guys.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Ah, we don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
He hasn't showed it, but you get him in a
game and suddenly his athleticism, he's all over the place,
and and we didn't know he could do all these things,
but he can. Like, I think he's got enough of
a resume to merit a chance somewhere twenty seven. No,
I'll let him come off the bench for the next
one starting stop. We have the best starting five in
the end, you know what though, But think about.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
It, you know, coming off road with the second Unite
one of your current five starters, about that that'd be
something even Just start with the Broun.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Just give him Brownny minutes, you know, Bronny blowout games
when it's that you just.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Put him out there and let him play one verse five.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, I mean twenty five to
seven a game, four point seven boards, six point six
assists to.

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Win the key G League MVP.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Now see, I even gave him their their love because
they kind of owned the G League. So is their
guy that he played that well to where he's now?
So what is he a quad eight player? To take
it to baseball terms? Listen maybe here, I.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Don't know, but but just think about that is what
like you listen to JJ Reddick, you know, friend of
the show JJ Redick. Uh that we're still feuding apparently,
but they haven't. I go away for two days. You're
starting to beef with my coach. I know, right, dude,
I didn't. Man, he started it months ago and he
started with st and stirred it up and it wasn't
j j Reddick.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Just we're just making a stu here.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Uh, that's my acting coach, Carl Weathers, And uh, what
do you get there?

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Is that you hear JJ Reddicks all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Hey, Brownie earned his minutes playing as well as he
does in the G League. You got a guy who's
MVP of the G League. He doesn't earn a few
minutes there. I mean, really, Mac McClung, is that bad?
You can't trust him? I mean really, at some point
you got to You got a little guy with this
kind of upside play.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
And that's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
If it's not for the magic, I understand if he's
not your guy for whatever reason, but the NBA's got okay,
we gotta we gotta get this guy some we can
get on the court.

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Nothing else.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
You got a lot of theme parks in Orlando. He's
got to have at least a couple of shows daily.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Hey Mac, you're not gonna play tonight, but instead you're
gonna do the Dunk Tank at Orlando, right in Harry
potter Land.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, we're gonna do that. Okay. You're gonna be right
near Weasley.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Wizarding Wheezes, and you're gonna dunk and they're gonna do
a thing where it's a magic trick and you come
out and dunk and then they go back and when
Guardian Leviosa you come back. That's how it's gonna go.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
It would be kind of fun to see his rights
transferred from the Magic to the Wizards.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh, Magic Wizards, I see he did right there, Magic Wizards,
Magic Wizards. Time Together, Exit Out about a Fresca exit
swelling down the Jason smithsher with Mike Carmon live from
the Tirech dot Com Studios. Time Out to find out
what's trending in the wide world of sports. From a
guy who's been called the Mac McClung of Fox Sports Radio.
We see him once a year. He does pretty well.

(24:48):
Then disappears for the other eleven and a half months.
It's Steve Disager.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Actually, he's played three more games to the NBA than
I have in the last three years, three, he said.
The NBA, by the way, is off until Wednesday's makeup
game Hornets at Lakers. Most teams return to play on
Thursday night. The NHL is off for almost two weeks
total until this Saturday. No NHL All Star Game this year.
Instead the Four Nations face off, which concluded the round

(25:14):
robin portion in Boston tonight. The US was already two
and zero, did not need to win this evening and
did not. The Americans did score in the opening minutes,
but lost to two to one to Sweden. In fact,
it was two one after the first period. Backup Jake
Ottinger started in goal, but the Americans were already a
shortest spot in the championship game Thursday night in Boston

(25:34):
against Canada, which advanced today with a five to three
victory over Finland. That game was for nothing in the
third period.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Did you say Emmett Otter played goalie for the United
States tonight? Not even Emmett Sheen was in goal. The
River Bottom Gang didn't play a song. Okay, the jug band,
let's go.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
You know we might need this guy Thursday. If the
goalie gets running, I mean the real goalie gets run into.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
So better than making sure.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Men's college basketball about three weeks left in the regular season.
Number three Duke a winner easily at Virginia eighty to
sixty two. Late night game win to nineteenth ranked Arizona
seventy four to sixty seven at Baylor. Auburn is ranked
number one for the sixth straight week. Florida is up
to number two. Friday night on Fox TV, Number twelve
Michigan hosts number fourteen Michigan State. The new number one
in women's hoops is Notreed Aime. It won tonight against

(26:21):
number eleven Dukes sixty four forty nine. Eighth ranked Ohio
State won in overtime against Iowa. Maryland beat Michigan. By
the way. Texas moved up to number two in the
new poll. The women's number one was UCLA, it fell
to three. USC is up to number four. Mike Trout
of the Angels is switching to right field to try
and stay healthy after fourteen years in center. He's thirty

(26:41):
three years old. Trout has missed almost four hundred games
in the last four years.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
Is he see how many of them are relevant? Zero?

Speaker 5 (26:49):
He's won literally zero games. In fact, his Angels in
his career, not a single playoff win, and only one
postseason appearance twenty fourteen, and they were swept by the Royals.
Then he went one for twelve in that series. The
Angel's first full squad workout at spring training was today.
The A's gave manager Mark Kotse a three year extension.
The Diamondbacks gave short stop Geraldo Perdomo a four year

(27:12):
contract extension. The Padres invited veteran first baseman Julie Guriel
to spring training. All star Rafael Devers of the Red
Sox says he does not want to give up his
third base position after Boston's recent signing of Alex Bregman.
Nets pitcher Frankie Montaz has a lat strain and will
be shut down for six to eight weeks, so he
might not pitch in the majors until late May.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Ever, again, it's the Mets. I can't believe it. Ever
again an.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
In case you didn't hear, Yankees DH gen Carlos Stanton
is uncertain for opening day due to sore elbows plural.
The Cincinnati Bengals planned a franchise tag wide receiver t
Higgins again this year if they can't sign him to
a long term deal in the next couple of weeks.
The NFL's tag window officially opens on Tuesday afternoon. It'll
last until March the fourth.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Back to you, Thank you, Steve O.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Now, it's funny you say that because we talked about
how franchise tag day is tomorrow in the NFL, and
we talked about Sam Donald a month month, two months ago.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
I thought he's getting it for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Now after seeing Kevin O'Connell talk the last couple of weeks,
it's all they're gonna let him walk, and he's gonna
be out there, and we're gonna spend tomorrow talking about
the best landing spots for Sam. Darnald T Higgins is
the other big name out there, right, He's he's basically
a number one receiver anywhere else another team, except he
plays in the Bengals. Who oh, by the way, have
Jamar Chase, who's not bad. I've seen him play a

(28:29):
little bit. Jamar Chase is not a bad player. According
to sources, they're gonna try to sign Chase Higgins and
Trey Hendrickson, who led the league in sacks last year.
That's a hell of a trio all to new contracts. Okay,
let's try to figure this out for a second. So
you're already paying Joe Burrow for forty five million dollars
a year, right, I know the NFL, sorry cow keeps

(28:52):
going up, But you're paying Joe Burrow forty plus million
dollars a year. Jamar, Chase is gonna want more than
thirty million dollars a year, so I add another thirty
to that. Tee Higgins is gonna want thirty million dollars
a year, and if you franchise him, it's gonna be
about twenty seven million a year. Hendrickson is also gonna
want thirty million a year because that's what big pass
rushers get. So are you really gonna pay those four guys,

(29:15):
four guys on the team. You're gonna pay them a
total of one hundred and twenty to one hundred and
thirty million dollars. Yeah, they're gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Burrow's extension was five years to seventy five.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
I mean, it's so so fifty. He's fifty five. Okay,
but either way.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
But the point just being that we're talking about a
ridiculous amount of money. Oh and you still have to
fill out the rest of your roster and uh, lest
we forget this is kind of the you're still in
the middle of the bleep and desert moment, Elliott Gould
and Ocean's eleven. You're still the Bengals, that's and a
guy that does not like to spend money.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
That would be three. I mean they are spending a
little bit more.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Mike Brown is opening his purse a little bit more,
and the Bengals opening their first little King one fired him.
Yeah yeah, boy, Remembery's Coach of the Year with the Kings.
But you can't pay four guys one hundred and forty
five million dollars like you can't that that that doesn't
work anymore, especially when three of the guys are it's
a quarterback and two wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
You could pay one wide receiver, but you can't pay.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Two line could because one team who could do that Dodgers.
The Dodgers could Yeah yeah, I mean if Joe Burrow
would defer his contract money.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
For I'm gonna get a million dollars a year and
then in twenty years, I'm gonna get fifty million a year,
just like show.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Hey.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
Uh, but I mean, you can't do this right. So
I know the Bengals are gonna try to keep him.
I'm sure they're gonna I'm sure he's gonna get the
franchise Tagmar. They're not gonna have some kind of long
term deal worked out. When Jamar Chase is gonna want money,
and whatever t Higgins gets, Jamar Chase is gonna want more,
and he should get more. You might got the guys
coming off being the Triple Crown uh wide receivers last year,
receiving yards, touchdowns, receptions. I mean, the guy's the best

(30:51):
receiver in the NFL. Uh, he's gonna want more than that.
And Ti Higgins is gonna want somewhere close to thirty
million a year. So Jamar Chase is gonna want thirty
five or forty million. You don't have money for that.
You don't, honestly if you are the Bengals, and I
get that it's a thing, but you have to look
at say, all right, we have to prioritize here. And
you got to tell Joe Burrow, Hey, we're gonna spend

(31:11):
this money. We just have to spend it someplace else,
caring we can't have four players that are really important
all making this kind even if you're gonna defer. Hey,
we got to go out and get a couple of receivers, right,
we have to have the one stud receiver. Then we're
gonna pay some guy a little bit lessh was really
good in the slot. Burrow makes everybody better. I mean,
that's an impossible thing to say for a quarterback, two

(31:32):
wide receiver, defensive end. Big A one hundred and fifty
million dollars can't do it.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
You go and you hug Joe Burrow and you just say,
all right, look, we need to talk about your contract. Look,
we know you like your discretionary income and all that
it's afforded you. I can't wait to see and get
a ride in the Batmobile when it arrives next year.
But we need to rework your contract. And you're really
gonna have to take a little bit of a haircut here.

(31:56):
How much thirteen a year? I want to buy the
Batmobile too. Wait, but that I'm gonna lose thirteen a year.
I'm gonna make thirteen year now, you can. You can
make thirteen years.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
You'll get just can the rest lines. You're just gonna
sign your contract and take it.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Did you see T higgins Mom's tweet?

Speaker 4 (32:16):
No? Oh, well, what'd she say?

Speaker 3 (32:18):
Well, if it's really her, Okay, it looks like it's her.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Okay, check it out.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Tell me what you think when we get back.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Oh wow, is that you call it?

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Tea?

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Yeah, So we'll have that coming up as well as
do you believe that one superstar quarterback begged his former
team to let him come back and that team said, yeah, no,
that's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio
Big Ben's Board Already.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific, Fox.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon. Get well soon, Frankie Montas see you see
at the All Star break. Maybe so with the NFL
franchise Tag Day scheduled to hit in a few hours,

(33:14):
T Higgins, we expect to be franchised by the Bengals.
We'll get to the other quarterback story in a second.
Frostburg challenged us to go find the tweet that was
from T Higgins' mom from earlier today. Find it, Yes,
and it looks like it is T higgins Mom. Like
Dove Climban follows her. Dove climb In retweeted it. Jordan
Schultz follows her.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
I thought it was my burner account. I didn't even
realize I tweeted the same thing.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
She just put out a tweet that said selfish blanks.
And it's a word that rhymes with pastors, so I
mean not pastor, but it rhymes with pastors, selfish pastors.
All they want to do is pray no, so it
rhymes with pastors, selfish pastors. And she was asked, hey,
is this in reference to the Bengals who don't want,

(34:00):
you know, maybe want to franchise T Higgins And she
wrote back, it's not, and Dove climate they're talking about
it now, Okay, what's it about?

Speaker 4 (34:08):
What? What? What is what? What what is this about?

Speaker 1 (34:10):
If it's not about that, I don't I don't know
what it could be just a big subtweet about selfish
blanks plastered because her her account is T higgins Mom.

Speaker 4 (34:21):
That's well, that's the name.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Sometimes you just get after it and just say this
is who I am.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Yeah, uh, and here it is, and like every single
tweet is about him and about the Bengel.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
What either it is his mom or it's not as much.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
No, I'm pretty sure it's his mom. I don't think
that it's not his mom. Okay, probably Okay, I feel
like it is his mom. But now, is it about
the Bengals or not? Like, like, I'm not saying that's
an inaccurate tweet, but she says it's not about the Bengals.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, because I go back and I find a t
Higgins tweet from the in April of twenty twenty that
talks about, you know, proud of my mom turning her
life around for me and my sister whatever. But and
then there's this post is unavailable, and there's also a
link and whoever's account that was that that is from

(35:11):
a suspended account, So I can't really get that. Next
to Island, it did not.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Did you get Rick rolled? At the end of it,
like it's two thousand.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
All of a sudden, there's Rusted Herbert dancing in front
of me here, and there's there's Harbors is an absolute
bleeping star.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
Yeah, it would actually be Jim Harbaugh dancing like do
you think there's a video?

Speaker 1 (35:32):
I guarantee you there's a video out there of Jim
harbaughd dancing like rick at I guarantee you that's got
to be there. And and Harbor doesn't have a shirt on. Wow,
I guarantee you that that is absolutely there. Absolutely Now
the other big story out of the NFL from this weekend,
that's just you know, this is a sign, right, there's there.
Sometimes there are signs in the world that tells you, hey,

(35:54):
it's time to make a decision. But according to numerous reports,
Aaron Rodgers met with the Jets about staying and he
begged the Jets to stay, begged, begged them to stay,
and the Jets still said no, we're moving.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
On, which they announced last week.

Speaker 1 (36:10):
We wish Aaron Rodgers the best, and we're going to
figure out how to release him.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Maybe we trade him.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
We're working worried about his money that he's due, Like, look,
no one's trading for that contract.

Speaker 4 (36:19):
They don't having to release him.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
But the way this is, but the way this is
termed is that he's begging. What do you think constitutes
begging in this scenario, I'll do anything.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
To say, I'm sorryesday. Okay, were you going full Harvey
Kai tell I did so many bad things?

Speaker 3 (36:37):
Are bad? Lieutenant?

Speaker 4 (36:38):
And what did the Jets tell him they needed?

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Right the first reports before they told him no, they
wanted him to say, Hey, you gotta come to every practice.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
Gotta go. You can't go to Egypt or anything.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Okay, all right, and you can't go on Pat McAfee
during the season whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa whah Wait wait.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah, I mean technically two things that they can't really ask.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Tuesday's my day, man, what are you talking own Tuesday?
Everybody else plays on Sunday. Tuesday is my game day,
all right, this is what I play. This is what
I did. Everybody else is off on Tuesday. I eat
on Tuesday. I'm not gonna not go on back back.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
But doesn't that latter one the McAfee ones kind of
sound like one from a darn schefter.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
Yeah, well, but this is part of the story.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Like this is like ESPN and everybody every and you
had a lot of repuable outlets saying these were two
asks that the Jets had of Aaron Rodgers. Now, could
they make him do it? No, But this is one
of those Hey, we don't want bad storylines. We don't
want to have crazy storylines about vaccines or whatever you're
gonna say, or about ayahuasca or aliens that are in

(37:41):
New Jersey. We wanted to be football and we wanted.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
That they don't already found out and they're actually aliens
running the New York Jets in New Jersey. Look what
we just did.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
We just cracked the case. People.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
The aliens have taken this to Aaron Rodgers. It's like
space jam except now alien to take over Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
But he knew and he found I don't know the
lizard people like the and now they want him out.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
If you beg the Jets to stay, not the forty
nine ers.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Not the Eagles, Yeah, not the Chiefs. You beg the Jets.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
They have a cool logo. Yes, the Jets logo was great.
They went back to eat. It's the color of money,
the losing logo from the eighties the Jets have adopted.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
It's awesome. I love the logo, hated the losing.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
If you beg the Jets to stay and the Jets
say no. That's where you look in the mirror.

Speaker 4 (38:35):
Go it's time. I hang it up.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
It's time. It's not gonna get any better than it
was last year. I still had a pretty good year.
I can still walk out with my head held. Hives
in the top ten for yards and touchdowns. Even though
it didn't translate to wins. You lost too many games
beginning part of the season. They won more with Zach
Wilson they won with me. Okay, that's a sign. When
the Jets tell you no, we'd rather do something else.

(38:57):
You have a plan, No, but we want to do
something else. But what's the we don't have one. Is
it gonna be Torod Taylor?

Speaker 4 (39:02):
I don't know. Is it gonna be Jaylen Milrope.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
I don't know. Is it gonna be Jordan Trapp? I
don't know, but I could stay no, We're gonna do
something that's not you. This is where you say you
know what. This is where I walk out of the
game with my head held as high as it can.
I really enjoyed this that you turned this into a
big bill angvil. If the Jets tell you.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
No, hey, your sign and that's what you just did.
You want to write a home dude, write a whole
bit about it. The Jets do this, Jets tell you know,
here's yours.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
You have to understand that that's a sign from the
universe saying maybe it's time for me to walk away.
It's time for me to be done.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Not try to make it work with Vegas for a year,
Tennessee for a year.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
I would just hold up the rest of the quarterbacks
available in the marketplace and say I'm better than these guys.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Exit out about a Fresco swollen dome. Jason Smith, Mike
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