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December 10, 2025 32 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon get the romanticism of Philip Rivers coming back. But looking at the back of his football card doesn't mean this is going to go well because it's 2025 now. Plus, another College Football Playoff meltdown!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:50):
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Send it to friends and family, evangelize for the holiday holiday, holiday,
and then you can cross people off your gift list.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Done, done, done, done and done.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, you know there is that. I'm one of those
people that when you accomplish stuff and you cross off
off a list, it feels it feels great. If you're
shod you're doing it, like finishing Christmas shopping for people
like that's like a huge sense of accomplishment, like, hey,
I finish this side of my family. I feel really
good about that. I finish this side of my family.
I feel really good about that I finished. I feel
really good about it. There's something about getting being done,

(01:24):
like yeah, I'm done. I feel good that.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Don't exchange a lot of gifts anymore. I show up
because it's gonna pay a lot to travel to see people.
Here's the gift, Tana. Here, I am pain enough to
fly here. Okay, just so you know, I brought you
a bottle of booges.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So a story I thought wasn't and hoping wasn't going
to be true today was true. Because Philip Rivers has
come out of retirement to sign with the Indianapolis Colts.
He is on the practice squad. It is not known
yet if he's going to be activated for this week
at Seattle.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
I gotta go see if there's some over underlines for
his stats.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
And that's my full side show, Bob running out of
the rake. He has a tryout on Monday, and this
shows you how desperate the Indianapolis Colts are is They
signed Philip Rivers to a contract to potentially play football
for them the rest of this season as they try
to salvage what looked like could have been a Super

(02:27):
Bowl year midway through the year. Now, Daniel Jones is
out for the year, Riley Leonard is week to week.
Anthony Richardson is still out after the orbital fractory suffered
earlier this year. This is desperation in its worst form,
because I look at the Colts and I go, what
the hell are you thinking that this is where you're at,

(02:49):
that this was a solution. Like on Sunday night, the
brain trust probably got together going, Okay, what do we
want to do? Hey, no stupid ideas? All right, don't
worry about it. No stupid ideas every one of those
companies are they? No idea is too stupid. He realized,
I really like this idea. But if you think it's stupid,
you're never gonna trust me again. No, no idea is
too stupid.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's also, you know, really dangerous because now it becomes
a nine hour meeting. Yeah no, you have to let
them talk. No, that's stupid. Burt Jones, Nah, Burt.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
No, no, No, when you win the MVP seventy five,
Yeah no, no, Burt Joe can't do Burt Jones. Can't
do Burt Jones? All right? How about Jack Trudeau? Wait,
isn't he the guy that runs Canada? No, that's Justin Trudeau.
Oh okay, so Jack Trudeau, Jack.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Zack and Jack here, Fox Sports Radio Mornings back in
the day.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
I can't do it, can't do it. What about Philip Rivers? Now,
wait a minute. When he was on the team in
twenty twenty, things were okay for boy. He played pretty well.
Things ended poorly. Remember Philip Rivers. At the very end
you could tell he was done in the NFL.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But that was after a lot of throws and a
lot of hits.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
He's fresh, he was done. Oh, but he's familiar with
the offense, he's familiar with the team. We have weapons
out there. Let's go get Philip Rivers. How does a
professional football team get to that decision for a guy
that's been out of the game for five years and
is forty four years old.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, we'll talk about a lot of guys starting every year. Right,
we're into the fifties and odds are well. I mean,
Philip Rivers is almost fifty fifteen to one installed odds
as comeback player of the year, and that mean some
third on the list behind Christian McCaffrey and Dak Prescott.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
I fail to see how this became something that a
professional football team and not the Jets that said, yeah,
this is what we want to do.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
I would love this conversation, right, So what I mean
how this comes to be? And we've seen the reports
that Philip Rivers has regular conversations with stich In, his
former QB coach, a guy who's worked with in the past,
and that Rivers had installed essentially what the Colts run
as his offense for his high school team, so well

(05:00):
versed in the terminology, play call sheets, formations and everything
that they would utilize. So in that way, you've got
a quick transition where in your break glass in case
of emergency, desperation being a stinky cologne that I see,
it's like, well, this is all the stuff. He won't

(05:20):
have to do that one of these younger guys that
we could plug off a practice squad elsewhere, who might
be more mobile and able to play, could do. I mean,
he's going to know the play sheet better.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean, I understand you're desperate. I understand desperation is
a stinky Cologne. I understand that, but wow, there's other
guys that have that could fit into this offense because
the silver lining is hey. As I said when Daniel
Jones got signed in the spring, I said, that's why
they're my super Bowl long shot. He's gonna come in.
He'll fit with what this offense wants to do. And

(05:53):
sure enough, first half of the season it was great
right now and you saw what the division had faded away. Yeah,
and now all of a sudden, Jacksonville and Houston are
in this resurgence and have chased them down in the
standings during this slide, and the consistency wasn't there, and
Jones was already playing compromised with the leg injury. So

(06:14):
the elusiveness and being able to get to the edge
as a runner and buying time.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
For his receivers, that was gone.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
You don't have to worry about that with Philip Rivers, buddy,
It's already been gone for many a year.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
With Rivers, it's the signing of or the the uh.
The way the first half unfolded, you were a one
ad nin Mitchell drop ball away from being undefeated. You
decided to go for it because you don't make a
trade for Sauce Gardner unless you know Daniel Jones is
our quarterback going forward. We have our guy, right, We're

(06:45):
going on. We're going to get one of the best
young cornerbacks in theory out there who really has never
been as good as his rookie year. We're gonna go
spend a lot to go get him. You gave up
draft picks, youre going and got him. Now he's hurt.
I get the desperation, but wow, man, really, I mean
the stuff you can convince yourself of that's a great
idea when in the light of day someone needs to

(07:07):
walk into that room and go, you guys insane. You're
taking a forty four year old guy that's been out
of the game for five years, and it's not like
he's been training every day to come back. It's not
like he's been trying to get back and calling teams
all the time. How did that try How good could
that tryout have been? That they said, yes, Philip Rivers
practice squad, How great could that try out have been? Again,
the guy has been away from the NFL for five years.

(07:28):
There's players who are in their twenties that are training
all year round. That if they hold out from camp,
and they show up about a week before the season.
When do you really see their best not till midway
through the season. Need a couple of months to get
into football shape. These are guys in their twenties that
this is in there in their wheelhouse to do it,
and they still need time to get into football shape.
Philip Rivers is going to show up and be that

(07:49):
guy and he's gonna run an offense. I mean, I
cringe at to what the possibility of this is going
to be. I hope they don't put him in Sunday
against at Seattle. That would just be absolutely terrible. And
I can't believe they will because you need a week.
He's got to learn the playbook at least a little bit.
But man, I know you want to win. A better option? Wow? Man,
who's a better option you? You could you give me names,

(08:10):
you could go. Okay, let's let's look at some of
the third where you go get Bailey z Appy off
the off He's not better than Philip Rivers. Sure he
is Philip Rivers again, forty four years old, five years away.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
As you get to bring Keenan Allen with him and
thereby stink No, there's Look, there's plenty of terrible options
that are out there. Yeah right, I mean we we
we go down the line. Guys, remember handing her her
that you were excited about. He's unemployed? Ellinger? Who was there?

(08:43):
Ryan Tannehill? Whose name pops up better? No, but that's
but that's the thing, right, we're talking to all all
guys that are unemployed, Uh, not for as long as
Philip Rivers, but some that are still hanging around the
practice squad's Taylor High would be a name, right, Mike
White's up there.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mike White is Christmas from Mike White. Mike White is
out there.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Sure, Mike White has stunk for as long as Philip
Rivers is last playoff, Mike White would be fine for
a come bring back.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Trevor siyon.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
They these guys have been in the league. At least
they're there.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
I mean, I.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Don't know what you're expecting with Philip Rivers.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Din'd you say?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
Though?

Speaker 2 (09:20):
I didn't understand the break glass?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
You know, I'm really mad as hell and I'm not
going to take any more of this. Like, who's he
keeping from really getting a job? This is like when
j R. Smith was on the golf team, Like, all right,
so some kids gotta go someone who cares. This guy's
gonna bring eyeballs and some money, and the kids that
are on the team with him are probably gonna eat

(09:45):
really well, travel well, get some pre swag and whatever.
Tim Tebow when he was in the minor league for
the Mets, I think everybody probably benefited from that. If
he's taken a guys either getting to the bigs or
he's not the same thing here and you're you're wishing
and hoping, you're saying, you know, this is the Christmas
miracle of Carol Brady getting her voice back in time

(10:06):
to sing during ass Man.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
It's a fun story, and I understand it's fun. It's
fun for all of us because anytime you talk about
a guy from the past who's doing something we love
it right retro is something we all love. It all
makes us think of when we were younger. At this point,
we're five years younger, remember Philip Rivers career. We were
younger at whatever it was in the world that at
that time. We're going back to twenty twenty, which is

(10:29):
the pandemic, which was awful, all the way back to.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Two thousand and four when a young, bright eyed Philip
Rivers came in.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
You're going back to his entire career. And I understand that.
But you can't look at the back of a guy's
football card and think, oh, this is what. No, you're
not getting that guy. You're getting the forty four year
old version of that guy. You don't go to a
You go to a high school reunion thinking, oh, I
can't wait to see Christine. She was so hot. Oh
my god, Christine's not gonna look the same, just as
Christine's coming going, Oh, I can't wait to see Jason. Know,

(10:55):
Jason doesn't look the same, right, doesn't have the same hair,
It doesn't have the same It's getting that version of
this play.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But now you look like Luthor and people, so that
might help you look like a criminal mastermind.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
You don't know what version you're getting. He hasn't played
in five years. You have no idea exactly. It could
be okay and they win the game. Set but I
could do this for he was very likely was thirteen
and a half. No, if he was good, he'd still
be playing.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
He would What are you going to do Monday when
you have to apologize for this?

Speaker 1 (11:22):
I'm not worried about having to apologize Monday.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Well, you better start working on it.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Not worried about that first writing that apology. You really
think he's going to get it against the Seahawks in
Seattle and go wait and light it up. That's not happening.
Howat would that not be the story of the year.
It would be a miracle. It would be an amazing story.
It would be it would be absolutely amazing to be
a Sportsman of the Year. I can't see a path
to it. I can't see a path to it, man,

(11:46):
I really can't. I'd love to be able to say, yes,
this is going to work out.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
You know, I'm hoping he just is able to still
physically walk back to the locker room at the end
of said game.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I mean, everybody's excited. You see videos of him from
his prime. It is if this is the quarterback that
the Colts are getting, they're gonna win the next guy
you're not getting that you're not getting because you see
a highlight of Philip Rivers from twenty fifteen. That's not
the guy you're getting. Man, that's ten years ago, right,
I mean, it's it really is something that you have

(12:15):
a lot of other quarterbacks that have been able to
step in and do some things and at least that.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Name a better option.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
I just gave you a few, and not one of
those guys is a better option than Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
In Philip Rivers career versus these guys career, Philip Rivers
options better the guys go in the Hall of Fame.
Philip Rivers at forty four, hasn't played five years.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Those other guys were better options.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
They would have called them not as good as these guys. No,
And I don't know why they're calling Philip because he's
a better option.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
No, But it goes back to right and JJ Watt
posted this and we talked about it a little bit earlier.
Is the idea that he's got that connection to stiching
and the terminology whatever. Now does that translate into him
being able to throw the football?

Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Joe Flacco is not much.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Younger, and he's winging it around when he's in there,
And is he always on Tartan No?

Speaker 2 (13:09):
But yeah, but he can still wing it around.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
I mean, look and understand Frostburg's wearing his Boltman gear tonight.
What he's talking about, how great Philip River. Is it,
By the way, whatever happened to the How do I
buy that? Is that shown up in an auction anywhere?
Because I want it? I think I think maybe that
or mack Tonight, the same guy. He was maybe a
lawsuit with Boltman and duff Man. There might have been Oh.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, he wants to party down, Oh no, here comes,
Oh no, today's that day? Man.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Look, I'd love to be look and I'd love to
be able to say I'm wrong. Wow, what an unbelievable
thing from Philip Rivers. Right, I'd love to say that.
I love because we've had a year. We've watched old
guys do well. Right, the big Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers
quarterback duel dropping up Lebron James is some Wizards. No,
he would not not going to the Wizards. He's not

(14:01):
gonna ruin Jordan's and at the Wizards. But I mean,
I mean, I I don't know how this gets. This
is this seems like one of those stories that gets
out of control that you decide really late at night,
after you're up in you're just punching, going, hey, let's
go aget Philip Rivers, why not? Okay? Okay, all right,
let's see, let's let's see.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
How do you think Brett Rippon feels.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh yeah, you're Brett Rippin, Man, You're just could Philip
Rivers do one of those things where like it's a
simulation and he's on the sideline, he goes through the
motions and it's Rippin's body kind of runs along what
it is he does. What if Rippin starts Sunday and
plays great and suddenly Philip, hey, Philip, sorry, manure.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Philip Rivers will be hired as a head coach somewhere
next year.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
You're gonna roll with Brett Rippen for a little while.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Philip Rivers offensive coordinator, New York Jets.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
No, he just comes in and and and takes and
takes the board, everything away from psyching. I'm calling the
plays now, man, you got you guys, you move, you move,
you move, you get all the offensive coaches out. I'm calling,
And all of a sudden, everybody's really positive because the
coach is a curse at him. He's really stern, but
he doesn't curse really And I don't know, man, that
last game of the year against the Texans, oo, go hey, hey, hey,

(15:11):
that's Week fifteen.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
First, Baby, let's go. We got a full slate, no
more buys, none of this nonsense.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (15:17):
That's not gonna be good Man.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
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Speaker 7 (16:38):
And when Diaz said, bye, the Mets are no longer special, Bunnett, Bunnet,
They're no longer special.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best
friend Mike Harmon.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
This is legendary.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
This is great. It was really hoping that line would
jump into away from Santa Claus and get to what
the hell is he doing here?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Jason?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Is this Creeter nickelback? H this is Tommy York? Well, Ai,
Tom York I'm sure now speaking of songs, and Justin
Frossberg jumping in there. Edwin Diaz brand new Dodger. Uh.

(17:50):
Never let it be said that baseball is always in
the off season because famed Los Angeles Dodgers keyboardist, pianist
keyboardist DEETERA Rule, the legend, legend, absolute legend, has already
been hard at work on a song. I'm sure he'll
be playing at some point during the season. You can't

(18:11):
always have well, I guess you have to always have
the intro. But at least a couple of times you're
gonna have to see uh, Deeter Rule playing this. Oh
you didn't really think you were getting did you? I
thought for sure we're getting Deeta rule. Really, I thought
you because it's Deeta rule playing. It's something you want
to hear. Frost person, Now you want to hear Edwin
Diaz's music. You've been trashing them all night down. Now

(18:33):
he's a Dodger. Now you're begging to hear his music. Wait,
you don't want to hear it, you' I'm listening to
it right now. You trash Edwin Diaz for the better
part of the last three years, and now you love
the guy. I could play this game too. You love
the guy now, Timmy el Trope. Yeah, but I get
to hear it and you don't.

Speaker 4 (18:48):
Now you love me, You're gonna have to wait till
opening day when he comes in.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
So wow. So now all the Dodger fans listening to
everybody else who wants to hear it done, they don't
get to hear it.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Now. Any Dodger fan hit me up, I'll send it
right to you.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'll just email it to you. Uh. This is dieta
rule figuring out how to play Narco right away on
the day that Diaz was traded or or signs the
free agent with the Dodgers.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
It was just side of it. Storage.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Maybe diet Rule has lost his fastball.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Maybe it's not the same. He's not the same organist.
Who hasn't lost his fastball? Now, who hasn't edwin? Just
wait Frostburg, Just wait opening day when he comes in
with a to nothing leading the ninth and suddenly he
leaves the basis load and it's two to time.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
If you're gonna cry, I'll play for you, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Ah, here it is. Here's a rule. I love it.

(20:08):
You can you can hear him really pounding the keys.
You can hear him really nice in.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
The accompanying video.

Speaker 3 (20:13):
Now, I'm gonna learn how to play the opening of Narco,
and I will torment you every night. You think Diaz
will consider with a little cassio keyboard the whole time?

Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know why? It may not have sounded so good?
Why not?

Speaker 2 (20:23):
I think his hands are still sore from that eighteen
inning game.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
He may never be the same. He's still getting hand
massages every day. That's too tough.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
That was tough.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Uh. What do you think first time Diz comes out,
Dieta Rule plays that form or do you think he
comes out to actual Narco?

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Oh? That Timmy out will be there.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Oh yeah, probably will be there. Probably will be there. Okay, yeah,
but when would you hear dieta Rule playing Narco? Like, well,
maybe if he comes in at the end of an
inning and then comes out and starts the next inning,
you'd be they play Narco.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
They're gonna jam that in wherever they can, and you'll
you'll get the full symphonic effect of you know, Timmy
Timmy l trumpet.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, got to get Nancy b hologram.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
Oh I didn't think about that. Yeah, you're right about
that for this yeah, right after. Yeah, I'll just say that.
That's great.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I mean I feel how fast till till that's Frostburg's
that that's Frostburg's ring tone on his phone? How long?

Speaker 2 (21:20):
How I think it's already there? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
You think that or that version of creep? Okay, okay,
what the hell's he doing here's uh no, that's that's
ty Shirts. That's ty shirts ring tone.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
T Shirt's got a million of them, like he's assigned
each of us, say holiday, holiday, holiday mashup.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
And Nancy bu just passed away earlier this year. Was
a Dodgers organist for twenty eight years. Uh, you know
doing this as well, So you know I'm telling you man,
this is a uh, this is a big thing. Now
I'll getting Narco already ready for the for the organ.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Hey, gotta gotta start ramping it up big days. Three years,
sixty nine million dollars. Uh, you weakened one of your
top opponents and then league and.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
Now we can play Narco on the organ exactly again week.
And I don't know. We had the good ds last year.
He's in every other year.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Guy, just by putting on a Mets uniform, that Williams
is going.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
To be saved.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
Like the King tells how he gets to win. I
think like the King tells everybody in the second act
of Hamilton, good luck.

Speaker 7 (22:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
I mean, certainly are temperamental beings.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
Now outside of believe it or not, Like we had
the big drama today in Major League Baseball. Got a
big NFL story coming you're wear in a few minutes.
We had another great meltdown in the wake of the
college football playoff controversy, Miami getting in over Notre Dame.
Notre Dame saying we're not going to a bowl game.

(22:51):
We got an assurance, we got in next year if
we're one of the top twelve teams. We're upset that
the ACC pushed their teams over our team, even though
we're a business partner with the ACC, which is just stupid,
which is why I said last night, I hope No
Tre Dame gets left out of everything. Every playoff notreme.
They went from sympathetic, they had the full Anakin, He'll
turn on now, we're not going to a bowl game.

(23:13):
We need assurances we get in because we don't want
to join a conference, so we want to be treated
as more special in everybody else. And oh, by the way,
the ACC, how dare they back their full time schools
over us? Right, it's stupid, but to.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Side by side comparisons just facts. They put a bunch
of that, like they started disparacy. He's like yeah, and
that that running back love his comic book's no good man.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
It's like, just say, just say you went out of
the a SEC. Just say you went out of whatever
whatever the arrangement is. Well, never mind the fact the
AEC saved Notre Dame in twenty twenty during COVID and
they played a full ACC schedule that year and got
to the playoff Oh no, no, we're Notre Dame. I
hope they get left out of everything everything. But today
Big twelve commissioner Brett your Mark got in on things,

(24:02):
saying how upset he was with Notre Dame's ADP Bavaqua,
saying that, hey, we were upset with the acc and
they've irreparably damaged our relationship with them the comments man
and the Dan Patrick show. Your Mark said that his
comments and behavior was egregious and Bavaqua was totally out
of bounds in his approach and if he was in

(24:22):
the room, I'd tell him the same thing. Okay, now
this is why this story, and again we talked about
it last night. College football has no rules. When you
don't have rules, this is what you're gonna get.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
We knew it was going to be this much of
a tire fire because there's no rules. But what's so
frustrating about this is that the two biggest things were
things that college football could have prevented, and seventy five
percent of this controversy would have gone away. Seventy five
percent would have gone away. All college football needed to
do was one a week ago, rank Miami over Notre

(24:59):
Dame or at some point, right Miami ahead of Notre Dame.
Because if they're that close and Miami beat Notre Dame,
you look stupid if you can't if you flip them
when you just want to put them ahead of Notre Dame.
When then nobody plays and somehow Miami gets ahead of
Notre Dame, that's stupid. But you can't do the twist
until the season finale, That's just dumb. It was there

(25:21):
in the bag in the writer's room. It was there,
is all right, if all this happens, that we still
have this at our disposal, you could still have that
that you know how the that was you only.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Think anybody cared about for weeks until Lane Kiffen left.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
You know how this is gonna come out. You know
this is gonna come out. This is you know you
knew you could have and should have put Miami ahead
of Notre Dame, and you would have still had conference.
We would still argue about it, but you wouldn't look stupid.
You look stupid. The other thing was this, and we
told you this a year ago, talk about being ahead
of the curve. What did I say last year? We
have to go to sixteen teams because what's gonna be

(25:54):
the biggest sticky wicket that college football is gonna have
to navigate. How do you deal with a team with
two losses that goes to the conference championship game and
gets that third loss. There needs to be a more
uniform way of dealing with it, because what did the Ncay,
what did the committee decide to do? Yeah, not a
big deal for Alabama. Oh but BYU you're out. Okay,

(26:15):
that's a really big thing. Right when you go to
the conference championship game and lose, when you play that
extra game, that's why you got to go to sixteen teams.
You have to start taking from the four major conferences.
You have to take both teams that make it to
the conference championship, right, And I'd be okay with Duke
making it If that's the case. You go to sixteen teams,
you're just making four teams in the conference championship into

(26:38):
the playoff and you still have stakes to play for. Right,
You're still playing for a bye most likely if you're
playing in one of the top four conferences, Right, you're
still playing for a buye. But knowing that second team
gets in and there's still four more wild card spots
out there for you to get right. You're not doing
anything else but taking away that controversy because we knew

(26:58):
last year. How are you going to do what that
extra game? For some teams you decide it means something,
for other teams you decide it doesn't. And those two
things right, Miami over Notre Dame and how to deal
with the conference championship games. That's seventy five percent right.
You could have done both of those things and left
Notre Dame out and it would be a big story. Oh,
Notre Dame got left out, But I'd understand why. I'd

(27:20):
understand why Notre Dame got left out because here's how
things went. Miami beat them, they were ranked ahead of them,
here's where they went. If you had figured out that
that college football situation with the conference title game, that
would have taken care of all of the controversis that
makes you look stupid, and instead we just concentrate on
the controversy of the selection process itself. That way, it

(27:41):
takes us back to the early days of the BCS.
You're talking about arguing for one to two or the
top four teams. Hey, at least then you have argument
where you can stand on something and make a big
and make a big point about and go out. I
understand why you think this team should be four, but
I understand why they thought this team was four, why
this team was three. You would least have arguments that
are based in what you've seen on the field and

(28:04):
what you've seen in the rankings. This was just haphazard
and dumb and makes it seem like, yeah, guys just
showed up on Sunday going, yeah, let's yeah put these
teams here. Yeah, Alabama is a better team than bys,
let's let them in. Yeah, let's end BYU home. I mean,
I mean that that's kind of what it looks like
it was done. Seventy five percent of this controversy was
completely avoidable.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I mean, you've got other folks wanting to abolish rankings preseason,
in season because you know, number eleven in week two
is not number eleven in week thirteen. We want to
get rid of these shows that break down and do
any of this. Let's not rank anybody until the end
of the year. How dumb is that? And it's one

(28:44):
of the cottage industries when it comes to college football.
What do you get a promo? It's like Hey, it's
pretty good team against another. For No, you need rankings,
but you need numbers in front of them to get
people fired up. So you're trying to add logic to this.
You're also gonna suggest You're probably gonna say something crazy
like having all football people in a room to debate

(29:06):
who should be in these things as opposed to you know,
well paid, well positioned lobbyists for each conference and heavyweight player.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Exit up about a Fresca exit swollen down the Jason
Smith Show with my best friend Mike harm.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
It's like, thank you for smoking in there with a
couple of football people randomly mixed in. What are you for,
big Tobacco? I'm for I got I got alcohol. What
do you get?

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I'm Gene Hackman from Runaway Jury. Yeah, I'm gonna charge
of I'm gonna get to bring this verdict home for
big Tobacco. That's it.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
That's where we're at this in these debates like wait,
who are you standing for? You're my biggest opponent because
you actually have some pretty good data points trailing you.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Time now to find out what's trending in the wide
world of sports. With someone who's been called the gene
Hackman of Fox Sports Radio. He came up with the
idea of the pick at fence and race team game.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
It's need to say my team's on the court, that's right,
Let's just play five on four the rest of the show.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
NBA two games tonight the NBA Cup Quarterfinals, Orlando and
New York each one to advance.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Top seed.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Orlando at home beat Miami one seventeen one oh eight
thirty seven points for Desmond Vane. New York got thirty
five from Jalen Brunson in a win at Toronto one
seventeen one oh one. The Western Conference quarterfinals are Wednesday.
Hawks guard Trey Young as optimistic he can return from
injury this month. Two college basketball games at Madison Square,
guard number five yukon edge number eighteen right, Florida seventy seven,

(30:37):
seventy three and tenth rank BYU was down by twenty
one points at the half and still beat Clemson sixty
seven sixty four on a three pointer at the buzzer.
In the NHL shootout wins for Nashville and Anaheim. Victories
for Dallas, Carolina and Tampa Bay, which won six to
one at Montreal, Lionel Messi was named MVP of Major
League Soccer for the second straight year. His Miami team

(31:00):
just won the title last weekend. The Colts signed quarterback
Philip Rivers, who hasn't played in five years. Indy has
three injured quarterbacks. The Colts started the season seven to one.
They've lost four or five since then. Falcons wide receiver
Drake London miss practice again with a spring knee. Atlanta
place Thursday at Tampa Bay. Last Saturday Night's Big Ten

(31:21):
title game drew over eighteen million viewers on Fox TV.
The first Bowl game is this Saturday night in La
Boise State against Washington. Shohei Otani was voted AP's Male
Athlete of the Year for a record tying fourth time
for the last five years. The Phillies re signed Kyle
Schwarber to a five year contract, and Schwarber will be
on Team USA in March at the World Baseball Classic.

(31:44):
Aaron Judge is the team captain. Philadelphia gave manager Rob
Thompson a one year extension for twenty twenty seven. The
Dodgers are signing closer Edwin Diaz from the Mets to
a three year deal. His ERA last season was one
point sixty three the Dodgers staff blew twenty t saves
last year. The Mets new closer is Devin Williams. Of course,

(32:04):
Pete Alonzo met Slugger is a free agent. The White
Sox won MLB's draft lottery, so they'll select first next summer.
And the Tigers re signed reliever Kyle Finnegan.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Back to you, Thank you, STEVEO. The Jason Smith Show
with my best friend Mike Harmon coming up next. Now
that this week of the NFL everything is done, we're
looking ahead to next week. We'll tell you the quarterback
that had the biggest week, and it's not who you
think that's next, right here, Jason.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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