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April 12, 2025 • 31 mins

Jason Smith and Mike Harmon react to the news of Derek Carr potentially missing the season and explore their potential QB options, young and old. The Knicks end their regular season with a dud. Plus, the guys explain why Nikola Jokic has no shot at winning MVP despite an MVP-worthy season.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
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(00:48):
I'm about as beloved by JJ Reddick as uh Nico
Harrison is by Mavericks fans. He told us earlier the show.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
No, that's fantastic, I mean, unfortunately Nico Harrison is a
fall guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, and you're you, But that's all right. Living rent
free in the head of JJ.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh, that's great. This is the fuel that spurs the
Lakers on there's some great postseason accolades and acumen and success.
Then you're the big winner.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Oh man, that's gonna be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You get one of those rings that you take the
top off and inside is the crypt yeah, JJ from
the day that he decided to take you on as
an enemy. Yeah, and recognize that you are living rent
free in his dome.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know, you know what would be It would be
like I could, I could say it because you know,
you've had a chance to watch it. Maybe like the
end of Daisy Jones and the Six when when they're
all on stage at the end, and and and Billy,
who's the lead singer, you know, is still you don't
know what's gonna happen because Eddie the the the bassist
you know, had sex with his wife when they were
fighting and everything, and like it's like, okay, hey, look

(01:58):
where we got. We're headlining in Chicago Stadium. We become
the biggest band in the world. Like, hey, it's all
it's all come together. And I would hug JJ Reddick
and say, hey, I love you brother, and he he
would say to me, like Billy said to Eddie, blank,
you you're done.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, it's not a bad way to go to that
or where you just look at each other like Buckingham
and Nicks.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, I love you, Blank you You're done.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
You had a good run.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Hey uh. Speaking of before we get to this big NFL,
I just want to say this, Maybe the smartest guy
in the world, athlete in the world, because sometimes you're smart.
Sometimes sometimes you rhyme slow, sometimes you rhyme quick. Maybe
the smartest guy.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
You couldn't even get that out because I'm doing my
Darth Vader death grip on you right now. Take that
chicken jockey, chicken jockey exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
I bit the inside of my mouth and I hate
I do that. Maybe the smartest guy in the world
is gonna turn out to be Pede Alonzo. All right,
Like wanted the big contract this past offseason, couldn't find it.
It was very difficult. Came to terms with the Mets
on a on a two year deal. Okay, great, you know,
two year deal, getting paid a decent amount of money,

(03:19):
but we can opt out after this year to look
for a big, long term deal. He has just hit
another home run. The Mets lead the as seven to four.
He now has fifteen RBIs tied for fifth. Now three
more RBIs tonight, so he jumps up from tied for
fifth in league to I believe he is third in
the league now in RBIs he's got an ops of

(03:39):
one point two. This is gonna be a pretty big
contract for ped Alonzo. I think I think he played
it right with Hey, I'll sign short term and I'll
get another bite at free agency next offseason, because wow,
as he had some kind of start. He's hitting three
fifty he has had, I mean he is. He has
carried the Mets so far the sea.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
Yeah, he's up to three seventy eight after a big
night tonight. Just think about it, don't they'd waited a
little bit longer, the A's had to spend money to
hit the floor. He could have been playing in this
ballpark every damn night.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
A little bit sad turn of affairs for the polar Bear,
beloved in New York City. Now are you playing? I
don't know where I call home?

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Doesn't matter. Pete Alonza BoA's a rolling stone. He may
you make it a one hundred million dollars a year
to back behind one.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
So well, he might want to send him some edible
arrangements sir, some kind of gift. I'll take maybe a
bottle of bourbon, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
And the torpedo bats. I think you say he's starting
to use torpedo bats. Now look out Pedoldso look at.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Wait a minute, we just said they didn't matter.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, but mentally, if it helps you, it helps you, right,
If you think you're hitting better than you are.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Sure find all you find your wins man.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
What does crash Davis say in in in pulldrum If
you're playing better because you are, or you're not having
so than you are, if you play better because you're
wearing a certain pair of underwear than you are, Like that,
that's how it goes in sports.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
And he like slow, deep wet kisses and all that
other stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yeah, I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. Then he
did a whole movie showing you that maybe he didn't
act alone. So there's that.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
But such a paradox, Crash Davis, I didn't really see
that turn on.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
A huge day in the NFL, because we might have
saw something today that completely froze the top ten into flux.
Derek Carr may miss the season due to a shoulder injury.
Saints quarterback. His status for this year is quote iffy. Remember,
he hasn't played the game since he broke several bones

(05:46):
in his non throwing hand in a Week fourteen game
against the Giants. And this shoulder injury is something that
the Saints have reportedly known about for a while now.
It's not known if this is the old ac joint
injury had a couple years ago, if this is something new,
if this is something he played with, if this is
something that happened in the off season. But this shoulder injury,

(06:07):
it could derail him for the season. I thought this
was gonna be true but even before this, but now
I'll double and triple down on it. At nine, the
Saints are gonna draft Jackson Dart. Dart is coming off
the board at nine. And like we said yesterday, every
day there's gonna be an NFL story between now and

(06:29):
the draft that involves Shador Sanders, and about youa Door Sanders,
this is that story because you would think, well, no
matter where he goes, Shad Door Sanders's not gonna fall
past nine. The Saints aren't gonna just take him because
he's there, right. They have spent a lot of time
with Jackson Dart. And part of it is, hey, when
the off season started, the Saints are saying, okay, we're

(06:49):
picking nine, what can we do? What do we like
at quarterback? They start looking at the guys. They really
like Jackson Dart. Right you think, Okay, Sanders is going
one two with cam Ward. Now his time has gotten
closer to the draft Shador Sanders has fallen through. But
the Saints, again I said, they spent a lot of
time you see on Jackson Dart. They're not talking a
lot about what they want. When you pick it nine,

(07:10):
you can't let it be known what your priority is.
But they know they got to get a quarterback. They know,
and Jackson Dart checks all the boxes for them. He
had a long career in college right started over fifty games.
The fans will love it because it's that Mississippi to
New Orleans pipeline made popular by Archie Manning all those
years ago. Jackson Dart is the quarterback riser. They don't

(07:33):
have to trade up to get him. Maybe somebody wants
to trade with them. They can slide down in the draft.
But them sitting at nine, it's they're kind of in
a great spot because right before them and right after them.
It's sort of no man's land, right. The Jets aren't
gonna take a quarterback at seven. They're not gonna come
in while Aaron Glenn is trying to set a culture. Hey,
we gave a lot of money to Justin Fields. We
love him. We're not gonna suddenly grab a quarterback at

(07:56):
seven and throw this into flux, right, We're not gonna
do that. I'm gonna set my culture and then we
can figure out the court. We'd like Justin Fields. They
want him to be their quarterback of the present and future.
So once you get outside of five, okay, there's nobody
till the Saints pick at nine. Then you get outside
of the Saints at nine, there's nobody until you want
to get down towards the Steelers. So that's a perfect

(08:16):
sweet spot for that, and the fact that they have
done so much work on him. Yeah, outside of cam
Ward going number one of the Titans, which seems like
a FATA complete at this point. If you told me
where's the if I could try to guarantee you a
place where another quarterback is going to end up, it's
Jackson Dart at nine to the New Orleans Saints.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
I do like the cut of your Jim the chaos theory,
and that Dart comes all the way up there. We've
seen some mock drafts that had the quarterbacks going one, two, three.
That's backed off a little bit as we get closer
to D day here and decision day for all of
these war rooms along the way, and certainly we'll have
all that coverage here on Fox Sports Radio with our

(08:56):
panel of experts, and then you and I come up
in a viserate what the different gms did. Except you'll
throw flowers at the Jets.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
But it's the idea that the they're gonna take an
offensive lineman. I want, I'd love them to take Tyde Warren,
but they're gonna take an offensive line.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
And maybe they'll surprise you. He could be a culture guy.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Can't he. With the number seven pick, the Jets select
Cam Skataboo, running back Arizona State.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Well, I think that might be a little bit. Well,
they did say they want to take some of the
load away from Freese Hall.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Sure, but all of that, they're fine, They're fine.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Nicely done. But Shador Sanders still seems in play. Early
in the draft. Cleveland and the Giants have made a
bunch of quarterback moves. It's like they're stockpiling. It's like,
you can't have any We're just gonna keep signing guys.
As we saw the Joe Flacco move. Seattle brings back
Drew Lock. How about that one? A little little extra

(09:51):
for you, but for the draft purposes, you know, there's
so many guys in that second second tier, right, you
got Schuck, you got Viewers, You've got all these other
guys that come all the way down the line. Your guy,
I'm a cord that I wonder if the Saints don't
draft a quarterback here. And it's actually something that was

(10:13):
proffered by one of our Twitter users. I had followers
and listeners. I postured it and put it in my
notes earlier, but I'll give him credit for reminding me
of the thought earlier. And this goes to Gunner. It's
like Aaron Rodgers hasn't signed with anybody yet, He's mulling
over offers. Does the Big Easy kind of look like

(10:33):
an opportunity for him?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Maybe? Oh no, come on, he's got to go someplace
where he can win that team.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
He could, but he could go win in that division.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
No, Now, Tampa Bay is still pretty good. Baker Mayfield's
really good. I don't know, man, this, if you want
to play, why would you not go to Pittsburgh? Right,
I get it. You're necessarily gonna win a ton there.
You're gonna clash with Mike Tomlin. That's one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
It's great for us.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Hey, it's a better team. Pittsburgh's a better team.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Right, But you're also in a division where even Cleveland,
while they roll the dice like they're playing dungeons and
dragons about the quarterback position, they got a pretty good roster,
but they're not an easy win since.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
But look at the Steelers, look at look at their history. Man,
they win ten games every year, doesn't matter. They win
ten games every year. Telling me the Saints are going
to win ten games, I have more confidence that I'm
going to get to the playoffs with the Steelers that
I do with the Saints.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't know if if they stay healthy, and this
is always the big if, right, if you get a
lave back to what he is, You've got a couple
of burners on the outside. Kamara is still a good
running back. Defense wasn't terrible. I think you got it.
Up there that you can do.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
The Steelers haven't finished under five hundred and twenty three years,
no matter what kind of team they put out there.
And they put a team out there at Russell Wilson
at quarterback the last five weeks and they still won
ten games.

Speaker 3 (11:55):
That's all finding good. I'm just throwing it up as
a potential option because but the Steelers are also a
squad where you're not gonna come in and you're not
gonna be the Aaron Rodgers. You're gonna have to give
up some of your Aaron Rodgers nests if you're going
to that squad.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, but you you want to He wants to go,
and he knows. Hey, you know, I really put my
legacy at peril when I went to the Chests. I
want to make sure I go out on the best.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Broadway. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
I went to see some great shows. Yeah, Okay, suddenly
he's Danny Hurley. Hey, we had a great all expenses
paid weekend trip to LA when I went to talk
to the Lakers.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
Or you're going and complain like other coaches saying we
didn't get that extra day in New York.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
J He's got one more chance to win and and Yeah,
the division is not great. I'm with you on that.
I'm with the division. The division is not great. Win it,
but the team, but the team is better and way
better in Pittsburgh. Yeah, but you look better with the
fleur de l Let's see Rogers. He's the king of Bourbon.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Street, he's doing beads and people, king of Marti Gras.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, you know, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I hanging out with the shadow Man.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
It works well. No, I think you know what, honestly,
you know, you bring up a good point there. I
think Aaron Rodgers to sign with the team where he
looks the best in their jersey. I'm with you on that.
It looked better in a Steelers jersey than he would
in a in a Saint I.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Was more thinking, you know, the wind, but yeah, the
flour of these And then he's a guy that likes
the mystic arts and trying to find yourself. What better
place than than the Vodoo buy you Suddenly now he's
doctor Strange.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
You'll find or will equal to your sure.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
But the roster's not terrible, and the division's winnable. Him
and Wong standing next time. Opening portals come on?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Now, No, I think the grizzled of the beard and
the gray and the smile. It looks better in a
Steeler's uniform than in a than in a Saints unifor
for the grizzled look looks a lot better for Steelers
than it does for the Saints.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Just saying since he hasn't signed to anybody's knowledge, that
this isn't a done deal. There's no verbal agreement waiting
on a day to where he has to sign a
contract because then he has to comply by all NFLPA
rules and regulations. That the Saints are now an opportunity
because Derek carr is he wasn't good anyway, but now

(14:26):
he's gonna probably gonna be unavailable a while.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Jackson dark to the Saints at nine, right at then.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
He could battle Spencer Spencer Rattler.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
And don't forget Ben Denucci is there too?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
Oh nice? Yeah, that's actually triumvirate if there ever was
exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
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more on the draft, something absolutely crazy about what we're
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
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Speaker 1 (16:25):
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This is one of those songs. Hey, you know, if
the Cure ever did a song and they called it lovesong,
what would it sound like? It would sound just like this,
like this is it? Uh, nothing is easy? Nothing is easy.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
That's a great Jethrotol song. Nicely done, Metsley.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Thea's seven to five in the bottom of the ninth,
Edwin Diaz has lit the fire out of the gas can.
Yes as a second and third with one out in
the top of the ninth. In the bottom of the
ninth inning, and you know, here's the thing. Normally, Hey,
this is Daz's game, and it goes on, but the
Mets have people up in the bullpen, which shows you,

(17:16):
all right, all right, we've kind of had it with Daz.
All right, we've had we We understand twenty twenty two
was really special and uh yeah, still walk closer because
we gave him a lot of money. But I'll tell
you this right now, Uh yeah, not above taking him
out at this point and already action the bullpen. He
walked the first batter on four pitches. It's a three
run lead for the Mets. Nothing comes easy, nothing nicely done.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
We go all the way back to nineteen sixty nine
with nothing is easy from Jeal. Nothing is easy still.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Because I'm looking for something to take the sting out
of the Knicks loss tonight to the Cavaliers, which is
just wow.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Uh just go watch highlights of staying fighting back in
w CW. It'll be that doesn't staying Saying truth hurts.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
Every I'd rather than say say, oh this time, Look,
we talked a lot about the NBA tonight and clearly
look a big achievement night for the Lakers, whinning fifth
game of the year. Uh danger, nobody wants to play
them in the playoffs. Right, they're a big unknown, are
they Are they good enough to get all the way through?

(18:17):
Are they going to have the stamina to get all
the way through? What's it gonna be? What kind of
role is Luca gonna have? Will he see to Lebron
at all? But nobody wants to find that out right,
Nobody wants to play the Lakers. Meanwhile, in the East,
I think they're all fighting to get see. Hey, I
want to play the Knicks and the Pistons. Congratulations they won.

(18:37):
They get to play the Knicks in the first round.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Make it quick exactly.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
The Knicks, I mean they look done. They look absolutely done.
They had a chance tonight to clinch third place overall
by winning. Now they wound up clinching third place because, uh,
you had the later game where the the Indiana Pacers lost.
So it's the Pace and the Bucks locked into the
first round. The Knicks are up by twenty four against

(19:04):
the Calves in a game where the Cavaliers rested everybody.
No Donovan Mitchell, no Jerome, no Mark Price, no Brad Darty,
no Craig Elo. They rested everyone tonight.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
Off to dribble.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
They rested. Yeah, but he would still hit a big
three year come on, but he would still do that. Uh,
they no varage out tonight. They rested everybody, and still
what was the name of the fighter, David? Uh, what
was it?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
What was the fighter pilot? To coach?

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Oh, David Black, Not to worry about all the all
the different things changes, David. They rested everyone tonight in
a game they didn't need, they didn't care about, and
still they came from twenty four down to beat the
Knicks in Madison Square Garden. Like the Knicks finished the

(19:55):
season now zero to ten against the three best teams
in the league.

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Right, it's well for the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Oh for well, it bodes well for the other teams
have to play the Knicks. But like this is again,
this is such an awful uh development for the Knicks. Like, really,
if they lose in the first round, it's going to
be a new head coach. Sure, I've talked about I
talked about it last night and we had Rick Buker
on and I asked him point blank, if they lose

(20:22):
in the first round, as Tim's gone, and he said, yeah. Now,
there's no reports to Tim's being in trouble right now, obviously,
you know the Nicks are playing. It's smart. It's not like, hey,
we put a we put a dictum out there saying
that you need to win or you're done. No, no, no,
the okay, we'll letting see how things go. But if
they lose in the first round or they're non competitive
in a second round against the Celtic slash Calves, guess what, man,

(20:47):
it's something new, because you know, it's not just that, hey,
all of a sudden, Tims is a bad coach. It's
that defense has been the knicks hallmark for the last
five years under TIBs, and they've been getting better and better,
and now they're one of the worst defenses in the league. Again,
how many times do I have to watch a team
shoot fifty percent from the floor against the Knicks and
win and tonight it's just a bunch of guys.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
They Yeah, they had Garland, Strews said nineteen.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
And the thing is it was actually Wayne Garland, former
Indians pitcher, that Darius Garland.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
He had good hair too.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, remember that seventy eight card mustache and the
done I mean, really, I mean, how many times I
have to watch that and understand that This is just
not This is just not how it should be. The
Knicks are winning games. They're a fifty win team because
you know what, they have an incredible amount of talent
in their starting five, right, I mean, I don't know

(21:42):
anybody has more talent overall in their starting five than
the Knicks. Two.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
You want to have some fun, though, fun with numbers? Uh?

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Why is it gonna make the Knicks look bad? I
don't want to do well?

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Maybe a little?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Okay, go ahead, all right?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Tied for twenty third? Yeah, boy, opponents field goal percent.
Teams behind they're tied with the Spurs, Yeah, okay, teams
behind them, the Pacers. Yeah, there's a player team, the Jazz,
the Nets, the Hawks, the Pelicans, and the Sixers.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
There's only one thing wrong with all those teams. There's
only one thing all there's only one thing wrong all
of these name like eights, a lot.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Of powerhouse all stars in there.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
No, no, no, there's only one thing wrong with those teams.
One thing. They stink. That's what they all have in common.
They stink. I mean it. And when when you're a
head coach and your hallmark has been defense, and here's
a team that is Helen gone from there. Man, Like,
it's just I've thrown talented guys out there and let's

(22:48):
see if we can win games. Like, that's what they're doing.
They got Karl Anthony Towns in the offseason, they got
Michael Bridges. That's how they're winning these games. It's because
they're out talenting other teams on most of the night.
It's on five out of every eight nights. It's what
they're doing. But man, this is not a team that's
gonna go anywhere in the play. I'm not gonna suddenly
get it. This is not a team that had the
the chemistry of last year's team. It's just a bunch

(23:11):
of guys. So if you're head coach, if you got
him in there and you're not even he's not even
there for the reasons you brought him in, what are
you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Right?

Speaker 1 (23:19):
You lock you're locked into these players. You give up
five first round picks for Bridges, Right, you're locked into
these guys. It's gotta be something new. It's got to
be a new kind of energy, something new to come
in where, hey, maybe next year the Knicks will put
it all together with their talent. Because I'm telling you.
You can't backslide. And if they bat the if they
lose to the Pistons, first of all, my family be

(23:41):
very happy. And they're already trash talking on on on
text on already, yeah barely, oh yeah, no, no no.
As soon as they found out Pistons next, they're like, yeah, yeah,
everybody's doing it.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
Pistons.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
Hey, remember I was only three years early on the
Pistons a playoff thing.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Of course, you also burned down the Lions bandwagon.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So no, no, no, I got the Lions as far
as I could. That is not my fault.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
But I mean, if you if you can't get past
the Pistons in the first round, what's suddenly gonna say
we're gonna change things next year? What do you what
else are you gonna bring in? What do you need
to do? You know, you need some kind of different leadership,
different way to things go. And as much as I
want to say, hey man, Danny Hurley on this team
would be great, the first guy they'd call, I guarantee,
who's gonna see You're gonna see link to this if

(24:30):
they get rid of Tibbs is Jay Wright one hundred
percent first guy he won a national title, two national titles.
With these guys, he'll probably find a way to get
Devincenzo back from the Timberwolves of the off season. Find
a way to do that. Jay Wright will be the
first guy linked to this job one hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
I kind of dig that philosophy right there. But certainly
for Tibbadeau, it's been about defense and short rotations. Time
for he and or whoever succeeds him and uh, mister
Rose to go back to the drawing board because the
se an eight man rotation and the eight is a
maybe on a given night clearly doesn't work. As you

(25:07):
come out and down the stretch, you're you're on fumes.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
I I don't know how it can get better. I
really don't. I I'm hoping against hope that there's lightning
in a bottle. But man, congratulations, pit they drew the team.
Everybody wants to play the Lakers and the and the
and the Bucks. Of the two teams, nobody wants to
play in one team in each of the conferences. The
next of the team, everybody wants to play. I want
to play them. I want to play them right now.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Well, let me ask you this, though, I mean is
there some kind of way that I don't know, maybe
you or another Knicks fan of great reputation could take
the joystick and make Karl Anthony Towns move on defense. No,
what about you add like, you know, he's you know,
I'm just I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
It's gonna be a tough one man. That's gonna be
a tough sell that's gonna be a tough sports psychologist.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Look, I'm gonna need you to buy in on this
side of the bell. Rotations gotta happen.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
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Speaker 1 (26:14):
Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with My best friend
Mike Harmon Live from Thetirack dot Com studios. And uh look,
we're starting to get clarity for the NBA playoff picture.
Now still comes down to Sunday for a few teams.
The Nuggets, for instance, can finish fourth in the West,
they can finish seventh in the West, depending on how

(26:37):
games go on Sunday. But one thing that was clinched
tonight is Nikola Jokic became the third player in the
history of the NBA to average a triple double for
the season and incredible accomplishment, and that should net him
second place in voting for NBA MVP.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
That sounds about right.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
I mean really, I know it's hard to say, well,
wait three, history of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, play
it's MVP and Player of the Year. People want to
blur that line about about uh well this guy's yeah, okay,
Well then then Jordan would have won every single year
and Shaquille O'Neil would have won MVP every single year.
I mean, that's how it would have went. But every

(27:18):
year the Nuggets are the same. They're a fifty win
team in the regular season. And Jokich is great, right,
you need to kind of you're gonna be the MVP.
This is I led my team to something that. Boy,
where would they be without me? And yes, of course,
where would Nuggets be without Jokic? They wouldn't nearly be
as good, but he led them to the middle of
the standings. That's where they are. Shake Giljess Alexander was

(27:43):
unreal spending so much time this year. You had you
had a pretty good supporting cast, but you had guys
miss a ton of time. Chet Holmgren missed a ton
of time, and it didn't matter. I mean, that's you're
talking about a top pick in the NBA draft. It
didn't matter if they had him. They were still winning.
You know, Isaiah Hartenstein was hurt. He was a huge
signing off of the Knicks this offseason. Doesn't you miss him?

(28:04):
He was tough? Yeah, well I miss I miss a
few guys. But Gildes Alexander is able to lead the
Thunder to the best record in the NBA. That's the MVP.
You gotta do something in the standings to be MVP again.
If you want to have a Player of the Year award,

(28:25):
if you want to have the Kobe Bryant Player of
the Year Award, you want to make it some new hardware.
That's awesome, and you have that in the MVP. Terrific,
But you gotta kind of lead somebody to something. It's
kind of like a couple of years ago when Steph
Curry had a really great regular season when he was
thirty two, thirty three, and it was, oh, Steph's got
to be the MVP. They're seventh in the West. They
were barely made. They were barely hanging on in the

(28:47):
playing round. Can't give that guy MVP wherever they be
without him. Yeah, but you gotta lead your team higher
than the middle of the pack, right, and gildess Alexander
makes his teammates better. He carries him on his back. Look,
we've seen a lot of thunder this year. No matter what.
He's the constant, and they win, and they win big.
He's the MVP A great years Jokic had SGA is

(29:08):
the MVP.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, that's it. If we want to yearly put a
like you're passing around a fantasy sports trophy, put his
name up there as best player this year.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Have at it.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
But the team didn't achieve any great heights because of him. Yes,
they might have achieved. I mean, in the wake of
Michael Malone getting fired, maybe it puts Nikoly Jokic up
a little higher. But he doesn't play defense, right, we
spotlighted that time and again, Shaye plays defense. You talk
about what he means to that squad overall, look prohibitive

(29:41):
favorite in the odds as much as you know, folks
can do the great talking game about the triple double
average and we all marvel at what Jokic is There's
no question about it. This sixty point triple double will
stand forever. But the reality is you're a middle of
the pack squad. As you said, fourth to seventh.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yay.

Speaker 3 (30:03):
It's like when of those guys were with Like I
always go back to eighty seven and Andre Dawson, fantastic
gear for the Cubs. They sucked. Yeah, so what like
great stats, fantastic They still lost a ton of games.
Had other guys that achieved, So why.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Are we doing that here? Six eighty six, the Mets
won the NL East by thirty games and Mike Schmidt
was the MVP. Come on, man, really, come on. But
like I will say this about about Jokich is that
if we hadn't seen Russell Westbrook go for a triple double,
average a triple double for season four times, the newness

(30:41):
of it, I would give Jokic more of a shot.
Like we watched Hey Otani or Lindor for MVP last year.
Otani went fifty to fifty. We'd never seen it before.
He's the MVP. If we hadn't seen it so much
in the last decade, I would say Yokic would have
a bed.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Kind of ironic. This is gone kind of ironic, then
Westbrook's screwing him again.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Everything comes out to being Westbrook's fault.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
We lost several games because Malone was too trusting and
and loyal, and now it cost him the MVP because
he'd won Trip, he had the triple doubles before Nicole.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
How do you feel about finishing second? This is all
Russ's fault. It's all his everything has been his fault.
It's a game here, exit out by a Fresco exit,
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