July 13, 2024 • 41 mins
On tonight's edition of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon, Chris Plank fills in for Jason Smith! The hosts kick off the hour by diving into the 2024-2025 NCAA football season, offering their predictions for the upcoming year. They also share their early Heisman Trophy predictions, examining the odds for the top prospects. Finally, Mike and Chris chime in on Mike Gundy's comments from earlier this week and Big 12 Commissioner Brett Yormarks comments at the conference's media day! Tune in to Hour 4 for all this and more!
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He's transitioned.
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Well, now he's starting his yeah, yeah, now he's starting
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Saint Lewis, Welcome to the party. One of the things
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that I think would be your calling card, going back
and owing to the joker there for a moment, would
be your knowledge and love of college athletics as a whole.
We talked a little Oklahoma softball earlier, but also foosball
and college football. With media days this week from Big
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Boastful kind of Presentations, we'll talk about the Big twelve
and we'll get some audio from their commissioner in about
twenty minutes from now. But also you know the sad
you know one one violin guy playing for the Pac twelve.
They open though open bar that was, and then you
had the poor guy that wasn't twenty one and all
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the events were held out of twenty one and over
representing his team, so we had to go sit over
by himself at the Bellagio. So we saw that, and
then you've got SEC media days, the New World Order
in the Nick Saban era, and I saw this headline,
started reading the article. It got pretty deep. You know,
you're kind of doing the family tree, like you're in
(04:09):
Harry Potter Askaban up on the wall and we're seeing
all the people that are related to the Lastranges and
and everybody else and Gary Oldman's character right serious black
and how.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You go on down there?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Or the thing you got to do if you're watching
Game of Thrones that you need that giant chart next
to you to figure out who the hell everybody is.
Same thing here. It was kind of the here's everything
that happened because of Nick Saban leaving college football to
become an analyst, speechmaker and sometimes a comedian. It was
over four hundred people, Chris Blank and I think they
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were being conservative with that estimate, the number of jobs
and lives affected directly by his departure. Yeah, you not
only have. I mean, I just saw af the top
of my head. The Washington staff is completely different, The
Arizona staff becomes completely different, and than in that, the
San Jose State staff becomes completely different, and then whomever Santos.
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So there's four full staffs that are affected with support staff.
Then you got the player movement that took place, and
oh yeah, by the way, you have those Alabama assistants
that were there that might go somewhere else or it's
wild just to see the amount of difference or the
amount of change that triggered. And now I think going forward,
just the biggest question, more than anything else, is how
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different is it going to make Alabama? Right, We're going
into a season where returning quarterbacks on I guess you
could say playoff favorites are few and far between. Dylan
Gabriel is the Heisman favored right now. He was at
Oklahoma last year, he's in Oregon. Now everyone's picking Ohio State.
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They're going to have likely a first year starting quarterback.
Alabama and Georgia are the two contenders where you you.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could throw like a Missouri in there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I guess too, They're the three where you're like, oh
my gosh, they got a starting quarterback that's returning for them.
Is that gonna be enough? With Jalen Milroe and Alabama
this season? I don't know. This was a team that
lost to Texas last year and you know, kind of
had a politic their way into the playoffs. But I'm
I'm telling you right now, I just don't think it's
gonna be a what is it?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Wash? Rinse repeat, rinse, wash repeat? Is that like ready,
aim and shoot, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Gonna be out wash? You go get a stud like
Kaylen to Bor. He's gonna do great things. But all
the change that resulted because of Nick Saban leaving probably
the biggest change more than anything else, Mike, everyone kind
of feels like an opportunity opened up. Yeah, George has
been on fire recently. They won two straight titles. How
dare they lose a game last year?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Absolutely? Do you realize they haven't lost an SEC regular
season game in two years? Their last two SEC losses
have been in the SEC championship game to Alabama. And
that's how good Georgia has been so obviously Kirby Smart
has it cooking. But everywhere else, especially Ohio State, who
got two really good players out of them leaving. It's
a fascinating, maybe over talked story for those of us
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that live this every day, every second. But Mike, we
always just pencil in Alabama to the playoffs. Are we
gonna continue to do that? They have both, Nick Sabanera,
let me do this sec winner odds right now, going
across a number of sports books. This is through Vegas
Insider dot com. Updated as today. You've got Georgia the
favorite two to one basically across the board, a couple
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of plus one fifties, Texas being second somewhere between three
to one. That makes no sense. Three and a half
returning starting quarterback. There you are and arching on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, but it also becomes the large alumni base, large
amounts of wagers and all those You start moving some
odds along the way. Sure, Oh, miss is third at
six or seven to one. There's another starting quarterback that's
back Jackson Dart. Okay, Jackson Dart, We've heard of him.
That's a good name because it's got the X. Yes right.
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Fourth is Alabama at eight to one, Wow, ahead of
LSU nine or ten to one, Missouri twelve, anywhere from
nine to fourteen to one, so you could do some
price shopping and maybe find yourself some love there.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then Tennessee coming in behind them, so Vegas isn't
necessarily over that. Even though those aren't terrible odds, that
seems about where I would have them right now. I'm
still shocked by the Texas talk. But if there is
anything I would tell people that don't really follow college football,
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this is for some reason the way that Texas is
viewed and talked about every single off season. Well, but
they're the Cowboys just at the collegiate level.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, absolutely, Like how.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Do we find a way to blaine a player, players, coaches,
whatever into greatness? I mean, that's just it. The expectation
is there's going to be a year where everything clicks.
And to your point, I mean continuity. I mean we
watch it in all sports, sure, I mean certainly in
the NFL. I mean you could count on one hand,
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and then why you and I, as Raiders and Bears fans,
we shake our heads because continuity is not a thing
we know right between coaching staffs, quarterbacks. It's a veritable
roulette wheel spinning round and round and wondering where the
ball's get to Land. Whereas you look at Green Bay,
you look at New England for all those years, you
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look at San Francisco, Kansas City. Now you pick five
or six teams, that's it. They're outliers, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, what
do I get to seven or eight? And then the
rest of the league, good luck. Detroit's trying to get there.
You got a couple of teams that look like they
might be heading in that direction. But most others it's
organized chaos in college sports, same thing, especially the way
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jobs shuffle and players finding the next best thing, right,
I mean. One of the other stories that was circulating
coming out of all these media days was Jane Norvel
talking about a player saying he was offered six hundred
k to leave Colorado State to go to Kansas State,
and then said, well, I'm not saying there's anything wrong,
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that they did anything wrong, Like, no, you wouldn't have
brought it up, right if you didn't think there was
some foul play going on.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Coach he named names double time.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well, I'll say this, though college football used to have that,
they used to have that stability. It was no but
that's just it. It was it anymore it's not. You
may look at the conferences. I mean you're learning a
whole new way, not just with conferences, but with your roster.
I mean, call it what you want. People get mad
when you call it pay for play for some reason,
but it's pay for play. David Randa the best quote
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of media Days. It wasn't my Gundhy, it was Dave.
We'll get to him because I know you've got some thoughts. Yeah,
you've known and covered Gun for years. Data had the
best quote of Big twelve media Days. They said, what's
you've recruited better than Baylor?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Straight?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
He's head coach at Baylor. They struggled last year, they
were not good. He had a great recruiting class. They
asked him to say, hey, what helped your recruiting this year?
You guys had a great recruiting class. He said, and
I'm not kidding dead Penny goes. We can pay the players.
We paid players. That's how we got a good recruiting class.
And I literally lost it because he said the quiet
part out loud. Yeah, they paid a Listen. We got
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the kid that were down between us and TCU because
we offered him ten grand more year. That's the world
that we live in right now, and I think we're
still intrigued to see how that works in locker rooms.
We're in the very infancy of it, and then what
is going to be the lasting effect. There's so many
nerdy angles. I could take us down. Well, we could
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keep doing that, but I'll just say this is a
fun opening salvo to what is a long, arduous college
football season. Media Days kicks it off.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's a very fancy way to put it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And SEC Media Day start on Monday, four days, four days,
four teams a day. We're going to be there for
a while. It's a big hotel bill. But it goes
back to Nick Saban, and it goes back to what
I think is going to be the most intriguing question
in college football this year. Yes, we have twelve teams
in the playoffs. Now how long will we have twelve?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Will we move to sixteen? Probably?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, we have Texas trying to get to that level
in the SEC along with Oklahoma where they can be
national championship contenders. Right, they're all new Big ten and everything.
But to me, it's is Alabama's dominance, all right? Is
it going to be tabled for a little bit? Because
what Nick Saban did pretty amazing, man. And even when
they weren't playing for national championships, Mike, they were still
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in the mix. Yeah, and you take a team that
loses its leader, I think it's going to be why
we don't. We've kind of slept on it a little
bit over the last few months because kayleble Boor has
gone into Tuscaloosa Alabama fans. You know, he has done
all the right things and set all the right things.
He's opened it up more. He talks to the media.
But I think it's brilliant. You know, you get him
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on your side a little bit more. But if you
don't win, we know what's going to happen. And I
think that's going to be a very fascinating storyline to follow.
Alabama's dominance does a continue minus Nick Saban, Well, you
become the favorite son for a moment. It's like the
backup quarterback that gets elevated. You get a couple of games,
maybe a couple of seasons as a coach, but the
sand in the hour glass runs out pretty fast if
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the winning doesn't follow.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Hey, we appreciate how cool you are. You're very funny
and I'm glad that we got this open invitation to practice,
but we just lost to LSU.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, we're not happy right now.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's just it, you know, it's funny. But talking about
Nick Saban, I just remember, and I wasn't a member
of the media. I was just hanging out. I was
at it worked for Yahoo, so I was working in sports.
But we lived for a couple of years on the
Stanford campus. My ex wife, she was in grad school
at the time, and that was when the shrine game
there was still all that. Yeah, but literally it was
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on the intermural fields right by the housing facility that
they had that we lived in. I literally walked onto
the sidelines and would meet up and talk to these guys,
right Brady, At one point, I'm standing there and all
of a sudden, I'm between Brent Jones Jerry Jones, and
now he's introducing me to Hayden Fry and a bunch
of other coaches. Like it's weird as hell, But that
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was where I ended up meeting Nick Saban for the
first time, and he had just taken the LSU job,
but he still honored his commitment to come to coach
there as he was leaving Michigan State. Who knew he
would become the guy that he did.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Like we're chatting and he's like, you know, it's a
great opportunity. I'm like, well, well, mission in the Big ten,
you know, me being Big ten apologists with my Northwestern degree.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
One of the thrills being in Evanstone was that these big, bad,
dominant coaches and teams would come play at Little then
Dyke Stadium, Lara Ryan Field now raised and gonna get rebuilt,
and now we're gonna play on me. It's amazing, it's
gonna look good. But another team, you know, school like
my school one of my big lamentations. Like, there's a
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lot of things and misguided things and decision making that
I still have questions about over the last couple of years.
But when it comes to nil and all of these things, Northwestern, Syracuse, Duke, Stanford,
all of those schools should have been first, had first
mover advantages with all of the smarty pants that are
running around in every operation in business to try to say, okay,
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how do we take advantage of this? And they were
all late to the game, every last damn one of them.
In terms of trying to figure it out because it
wasn't a priority when it should have been, because you're
gonna work nimbly and maybe found some way to get
that competitive advantage. Now, Northwestern's had its runs, no question
about it. But when you're watching the world change, you
(15:51):
know first mover advantages because eventually you know there's going
to be some sort of regulatory part of it that
starts to creep back in. So while it's the wild West,
figure out where you can, where you can win, and
say that quiet power part out loud as you need to.
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We got some Heisman odds, Dylan Gabriel and Carson Beck
currently between seven and eight to one. Okay, you got
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Quinn yours at ten to one, Will Howard coming in
at fourteen to one, and then Nico IAmA levea.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
We how to say?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It was like Ima Leva, Yeah, that's it. I've seen
it in a couple of different ways. And then you
get Jalen mill wrote Jackson Dart both at sixteen to one,
and then Garrett nuss Meyer at eighteen to one. Lsu
any of those gets you excited? Yeah? Does that the
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Tennessee quarterback? Is that the guy that's?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
IAmA leava there the IAmA anciation. No, I don't think
a freshman quarterback is gonna win it. And I get it.
He's a red shirt freshman, and I know that Johnny
Manziel did that, and Nico's pretty special. Jackson Arnold's pretty
special for Oklahoma, but I think that they're going to
take some lumps this year. The name you said that
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fascinates me, and I'm not trying to suck up to
our listeners in Tuscaloosa tonight. But as Jalen Milroe right,
you go from an offense that was a little bit
makeshifted times last year Tommy Rees, I don't necessarily know
how well he graded out, especially in the eyes of
Alabama fans. Now you bring in an offensive minded head
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coach that has worked wonders with at least one transfer,
quarterback Mike Carman. I remember watching Michael Pinnock's play at
Indiana and when he transferred. I know he had injuries
that he had overcome and everything, And when he transferred
to Washington, I openly laughed. I was like, what are
they doing? Why in the world would they get that guy.
He's like thirty years old, he's on a bum leg,
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and he's terrible, And look what happened. He ended up
taking his team to the playoffs championship game and was
a top ten pick in the draft. So obviously, Kaylyn
de Boor knows a thing or two about quarterbacks and
developing them, so I would find that as a flyer.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The interesting one though, is Dylan Gabriel. I'm working on.
I'm work shopping either a take or putting some numbers
behind it. I think quarterbacks struggle whenever they go in
as just a one year starter. I don't think dying
ness this now. Jalen Hurts is the anomaly to this.
He went to Oklahoma in twenty nineteen took the team
to the playoffs. Caleb Williams was incredible his first year
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at USC, but again he was there for a second
year too, so you knew you had him for two years.
Sam Hartman, you remember everyone after the listen I'm not here.
I listened to you guys NonStop, and I remember Jason
was telling us how Sam Hartman was gonna win the
Heisman Trophy and it wasn't even going to be closed.
I think he was just enamored by his beard and hair.
He's a very handsome man. It's already trying to look
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like clipboard Jesus revisited. But he was a one year
rent a quarterback like Riley Leonard is at Notre Dame
this year, like will Howard is at Ohio State, like
Dylan Gabriel, is all these quarterbacks that you're yelling at
the radio, what about Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow was at
LSU for two years, justin fields at Ohio State for
a couple of years. You get in that system, you
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get around the players and the coaches, you become more
understanding of what they need. So I'm not trying to
spell doom for either Dylan Gabriel or Will Howard. I
just found myself fascinated to see those two names Mike
in the top five of the heighest nods right now,
And according to ESPN bet today, those odds shifted and
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it's as odd of a shift as they've seen. These
will still be the longest odds that a preseason favorite
will go into the season with. But it's wild to
me to see how some of it is still moving around.
I guess what people just looking for? Maybe value at
this point. Yeah, I think part of it is also
trying to suss out schedules and how the process is
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working with all of the conference changes. Right we talk
about the SEC new coaches not just saving what A
and M Mississippi State, and then you're talking about a
revamped big ten, figure out themization what Michigan becomes and
right whatever, what is Michigan gonna be? No idea clue?
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How good is Penn State?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
How good is James Franklin? I don't know. Does Drew
Allerd get better? I mean he's thirty five to one?
Is he really is schor Sanders? You want to guess
fifty forty? There might be some value there, at least
in a floor curious, but I didn't look right off
the jump. They could get beat by North Dakota State.
It all goes to hell. Yeah, by the way, North
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Dakota State and South Dakota State looking like pretty good
picks in that first week in as south to Dakota
State is Oklahoma State. But it's interesting because you do
bring up the whole angle of it's it's all new
and one of these just everyone has slammed dunked that
nothing's gonna change for Oregon and it's just going to
be easier and better for them. They've got a trip
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to ann Arbor they're gonna have to take in November.
They've got Ohio State coming to Eugene on October twelve.
They've got to deal with going to Madison, Wisconsin on
November sixteenth. Again, I don't know if Wisconsin's going to
be any good or not, but they're good at home.
They're great at home, so and it's November by then
they will have gelled into whatever they're gonna be there.
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We're kind of rubber stamp in Oregon and I'm not listen.
I love Jeff Schwartz. I'm not trying to be answered to,
picnic for him or anything, but I just I think
that some of these moves are gonna be more challenging.
I love my Sooners, I love Oklahoma. I think it's
gonna be a pretty tough year. I think Texas is
gonna have a tough year. So it's just it's different.
I think USC is gonna have a tough season. I mean,
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it's just it's hard. It's a different world. But after
you get your feet settled and you're able to recruit
more towards that conference and with that conference as your backdrop,
I think Oregon's gonna be better in time. I think
oklahom is gonna be good in time. Texas too, But
this first year shift is gonna be odd. So long
way to get to the point I would probably steer
clear of anyone that's a one year starting quarterback or
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a first year starting quarterback, or are their teams in
a new car.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think I would want someone a little stablish Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I just think there's just that potential for chaos. And look,
it might be fine right if organization, you know, and
and fluidity and the way you approach business right, business
as usual. It's just a longer road trip, more zoom,
calls back into classes or whatever the case it's got
to be. But there are some new variables added to
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the equation when you start going into going across multiple
time zones in a new conference. New style style makes
fight the old you know line that we use all
the time, Chris, you know, my daughter's playing in you
know the some some pretty high stakes you know stuff
for soccer out in Virginia this week. And one of
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the teams they play like everybody's a head taller, like
to just grow them different. But the style starts to change, right,
a little more physicality, try and test where the referees are.
I mean, we see it in every every sport we're watching,
you know, Copa America. And we had some great audio
from the Uruguay coach, but you know it's it's not translated.
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And since we're not simulcast on FS one right now,
I say, right now, him shaking his fist and screaming
with subtitles, it doesn't work on radio, so we're not
gonna play it. But it's just the idea of you know,
you come into a facility, come into a space, and
sometimes it's not what you expect, and sometimes the rules
of engagement are a little different in conference to conference,
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and it's not like it used to be, right the
Big ten. As much as I loved my three yards
and a cloud of dust, you know, that left a
long time ago. So it's now, you know, trying to
recruit against teams in your conference that are now eighteen
twenty teams deep, and then the Big twelve with all
their bold proclamations of how they're they're coming and what
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the next iteration of that is. We'll hear from their
commissioner coming up in about fifteen minutes. But it's just
that kind of idea, Chris, that you know, there's just
so many variables and trying to figure out exactly what
the coefficient is on them. See how nerdy I really
got that Yeah. And by the way, you bringing up
the shador Sanders. Let's remember too, the Heisman conversation is
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a much different one than like who's going to the playoffs,
especially with twelve teams or to the pros or any
of those both things. Yeah, and it's uh, there might
be some value in those long Ger odds, especially Milroe
looking at Sanders, because I just I think there's gonna
be some of those favorites right now that just aren't
necessarily my eyes, guys, and I would look at favorites
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as favorites for the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
He's Chris blank In for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Harmon
here Fox Sports Radio. Now let's turn over to the
news desk one final time tonight. Chris. It's our guy,
Steve de Seger and his disco ball is down, by
the way.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
For college football schedule, things get going in earnest the
final weekend of August, and we do have a Thursday
night Fox TV game that weekend with North Carolina at Minnesota.
The big noon kickoff the last Saturday in August that
is new in Eastern time on Fox State at West
Virginia and USC's opener this season is a Sunday night
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in Vegas, the Trojans against LSU as for football tonight. Yeah,
the CFL plays one game Thursday, one Friday, one Saturday.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's their schedule pretty much every weekend. They don't have
many teams in the league. At Winnipeg tonight, quarterback Zach
Klaros from the University of Cincinnati a winner as the
Blue Bombers took it forty one thirty seven over Calgary.
A reminder, Wimbledon has the ladies final tomorrow and then
the men's final Sunday. That men's final will be Novak
Djokovic against Carlos Alcarez, as each advanced. Today, Ludwig Oberg
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leads the Scottish Open by one stroke. And Fox TV
will have two potentially great games on Sunday with the
Euro Soccer Finals Sunday at three pm Eastern Time from Berlin.
It's England against Spain, and the Copa America Final is
Sunday nights on Fox TV, with Argentina against Columbia from
Miami eight pm Eastern Time Sunday. Colombia is unbeaten in
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its last twenty eight games. Over the last two and
a half years since a loss to Argentina. Argentina ranked
number one in the world. By the way, the US
women's soccer team is going to be in action with
an exhibition this weekend. Now the Women's Soccer League NWSL
is off for about a month and a half. Women's
soccer with that pre Olympic exhibition Saturday in New Jersey
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against Mexico. Lynn Williams was added to the US team
for the injured Katerina Macario, who has a sore knee.
US Olympic women's basketball team in just over a week
has its sendoff game against a team of WNBA Stars,
and then that hoops league will be off for about
a month due to the summer games. There were three
WNBA games tonight, Seattle at home Rip Minnesota ninety one
(29:47):
sixty three, Necka Gumaca twenty six points. Las Vegas won again,
this time at Atlanta, Asia Wilson. She got thirty three
points and eighteen rebounds and five blocks and billboards everywhere
well does start this year again. Indiana winner over Phoenix
rookie Caitlin Clark twenty points and thirteen assists. NBA Summer
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League started in Las Vegas today Houston first rounder Reed
Shepherd had twenty three points in a win over the Lakers.
Lakers first rounder Dalton Connect twenty five points, Lakers second
rounder Bronnie James three of fourteen shooting from the floor
from three point range oh of eight. He had eight points,
no assists, three turnovers. The Lake game, by the way,
(30:29):
had Denver against the Clippers and the Nuggets. Recent first
rounder to Ron Holmes was injured, the Athletics saying he
suffered a torn achilles and is out for the Nuggets
upcoming season. Athletic also saying Detroit is hiring Luke Walton
as lead assistant. Jalen Brunson agreed to an extension with
the Knicks. The late game in Major League Baseball, San
(30:50):
Francisco seven to one over Minnesota. Arizona on a sackfly
bottom of the ninth beat Toronto five to four. Atlanta
was a six to one winner at San Diego. Padres
have lost in a row. Marcel Ozuna with his twenty
fifth and twenty six home runs for the Braves. Seattle
had won three in a row, but gave up a
two run homer bottom of the tenth and lost to
the Angels six to five. Mariners pitcher Logan Gilbert was
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replaced on the All Star roster by Seattle pitcher Andres Munoz.
The All Star Game is on Fox TV Tuesday from Texas,
and the National League starting pitcher will be Pirates rookie
Paul Skenes. He is six and oh with an ERA
of one point nine oher. Pittsburgh beat the White Sox
four to one tonight. White Sox record now twenty seven
and sixty nine, possibility of seventy losses there by All
(31:35):
Star break.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yay.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Washington had lost five in a row, but got a
win at Milwaukee against Freddie Perolta in Company, five to two.
The Cubs won their fifth in a row, five to
one at Saint Louis. Cubs have thrown thirty two straight
scoreless innings from the starters on the road. Kyle Hendricks
got the win tonight Houston's jose Al Tuvey with a
three run homer, beating Texas sixty three. Houston's won four
(31:59):
in a row. In fact, the Astros are just one
game behind first place Seattle in the AL West. In
the Al East, Yankees just one game behind the Orioles.
Now Yanks won at Baltimore four to one. Aaron Judge
with his thirty third homer. Mets won there fourth in
a row. Kansas City won its fourth straight home wins
for Tampa Bay and Cincinnati. Oakland won at Philadelphia six
(32:19):
to two, and the Dodgers were four to three winners
at Detroit, ruining a good start from Trek Scouble. No
decision for him. He's ten and three because in the
top of the ninth show, Hey Otani hit the go
ahead RBI double ground rule double the center field. Otani
was sixty seven runs batted in back to you, So
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
You go one of these shoes, your own adventure. Rolling
Stone's lyrics to describe the White Sox it's just your
nineteenth nervous breakdown or sad, sad sad, but you're gonna
be fine.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Uh yeah, the latter.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There you have it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
There's not enough nerves worked up for White Sox game
this year to suffer a breakdown.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, this is true, Thanks so much, Steve. Steve Disager
at the News desk tonight, Chris plank In for Jason Smith.
Coming up, we'll turn our attention back to college athletics
for another moment. We got the Big twelve commissioner making
big bold proclamations and maybe some grand expansion still on
the horizon. And we'd be remiss if we didn't let
(33:17):
Chris Plank comment on a guy he's known for a
couple of decades, and boy, how I wished if he
just said I'm a man, I'm forty again instead of
what he did. We'll talk about it next on Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
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Speaker 3 (33:37):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me, Mike Carmon, Chris Blank in for a Jason Smith.
Thanks to everybody been part of the team this week.
Arnie Spanier, who you'll be back on with two straight nights. Yeah,
tomorrow night, same time slot for this year's show, eight
p What would that be? Eight yody, Well, Pacific time,
(34:01):
eight to eleven Pacific?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
That sounds right, So there you go, and then back
at it on Sunday to eleven Pacific, So you got
seven to eleven, so you got that fourth hour. Get
those fours up the Power Hour as he is. Yeah,
but he did that on the third Hour the other day.
I'm like, what are you doing. He's got he's got
a label for everything. Man label for everything. And man, folks,
gotta get through what again, find your wins, whatever, whatever
(34:25):
pushes you through to that finish line. You need to
chip on your shoulder. You need to stare into a
wall that you know that imagining that person that you
felt slighted you. As long as you're not hurting anybody,
do what you gotta do. Rich Hornberger on Tuesday, our
guy Jason Fitz You guys con miserate on the Raiders.
Martin Weiss yesterday and of course Chris Plank tonight at
Plank Show. Find me over at Swollen Dome Jason and I.
(34:48):
On Monday we'll be in for Cavino and Rich and
we'll roll from there. We've had some a bunch of
college stuff. First, we're gonna go to a guy you've
known forever in Mike Gundhy. You had the unfortunate incident
with Ali Gordon the second and a dui arrest. You
know this comes in conjunction with that long article and
(35:10):
breakdown because You've got a number of driving infractions by
Georgia players over the last several years, so you get
that right. Another couple of guys this week, So you've
got all these incidences. But here was Gundhi commenting earlier
this week, and you know, for those that haven't heard it,
you may want to back away a little bit because
(35:31):
you might cringe.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
So I looked it up on my phone. What would
be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point eight and
Olie was point one. So I looked it up and
it was based on body weight, not to get into
the legal side of it, but I thought, really, two
or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what all
I did. I'm telling you what decision I made. So
(35:54):
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
my life, and you know, it's just fine.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So I got lucky. People get lucky.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
All he made a decision that he wished he could
have done better. But when I talked to Ollie, I
told him said, you're lucky you got out, like because
you make a lot of money to play football. So
back in the day, being able to cover the cost
of what he's going to go through would be difficult
for a college player. It's not for him. Now I'm
(36:21):
not speaking for him, but I'm just saying that's not
an issue for him.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So nop.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
So that that gets us to where we need to
the about one thousand. It's a four minute and thirty
second answer to the question too. Yeah, he kept going
like that's where it began, and we had it, you know,
truncating here shortly, but you know, trying to you know,
mind time here and get comments. And Gundhi obviously has
given a lot of quotes, some memorable, some rants through
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the years. This one, I had to play it back
a second time. It's like I heard him say that
right the thousand times, that that a thousand times myself. Mike,
he hasn't and he tried to back it down later goes, wow,
I wasn't speaking specifically, No, no, no, you said that specifically.
It was pretty much a verbatim. I can have the
court reporter read it back to you. Mike, Gundy is
(37:14):
in a mode that I want to get at some
point in my life, not drinking a thousand beers and
then going out and hitting the back roads of Payne County. No, no, no,
he is in the ultimate I d gaf. He doesn't
give a bleep and he's earned that, I guess in
still Water. But he's also he's also had a masterclass
(37:35):
when things like this happen, even going back to the
I'm a man, I'm forty and putting the focus on
him and things he says are things he dos does
and not the players. I don't think it's on purpose though, Mike,
I love the guy. I think he's a trip. I
think he's done a heck of a job as a
head coach, and I think that he's going to be
able to coach at Oklahoma State as long as he wants. Yeah,
(37:57):
but man, he has a mass through class in standing
up for his players. But I don't think doing it
on purpose, in coming up and saying something that makes
the focus get off the players but puts it right
on him. And I don't think it's intentional. I just
think he sticks his foot in his mouth a lot
of times. Sometimes that quiet part out loud that we're
not good yeah no, sometimes doesn't work out so much
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so well and really cast a big shadow. And then
we have Brett Yormark on the other side, Big twelve Commissioner.
You had some negotiations with Colorado, talking about what a
master negotiator he is as you look at conference expansion.
But then he dropped this one, saying, hey, wait, we're
just getting warmed up.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We're one of the and I say this often, we're
one of the three best conferences in America, and we're
getting better.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Think about where we were just twenty four months ago.
Think about where we are today.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
So I will not stop until the number one conference
in that that's my ambition, not share the number one Clemson,
Florida State and whoever else comes on board. But you
got to like that he's channel little Jim Harbaugh, relentless enthusiasm.
Did nobody push back on that? I don't think so.
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I think he got to do kind of like w
W shoot, okay, yeah, the mic I like Brett you
or Mark a lot. I think he's exactly what the
Big twelve needed. But this idea that they're better off
without Oklahoma and Texas is the dumbest thing I think
I've ever heard in my life. Well, what's he gonna say?
I mean, he's got cry for me and plan have
a little violin guy in the background. I mean, just
don't But yeah, that's don't say stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I mean, it's just you're not better off.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, but that's us from the out world outside. I
think looking in you obviously very close to the situation
and saying, hey, you know, we're kind of a big
deal here, no question. But you know he's got to
put on the brave face. I had just take a
little Paul McCartney in the background, mob Brad my bread,
my brave face. Uh. And and you know, buck up,
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Camper because it's going to be a tough road without
all that revenue. No, that's not what he's They're in
a better place than they've ever been. No, that's what
we're saying in his buy And you know, it's the
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn and
people like me Stuart Smalling kind of thing because he's
got to sell the constituency.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
That's a Saturday Night Live reference. By the way, peeps,
you got to catch up the thing that I'm throwing
all the way back to the mid eighties.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Baby. That's that's one thing I will say.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Though I appreciate the enthusiasm, I think we're getting ready
for another seismic shift.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
On the conference front, and we're going to.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Be down to a power three at some point, so
Big twelve is well positioned to be in that group
going forward. And the main reason is because of Brett
you or Mark's vision. Oh and by the way, to
Pack twelve and Ploty well, the fact that Larry Scott
and his band of Merriman fumbled the bag at every opportunity. Yeah,
and then they had that sad little cocktail party twenty
(40:41):
one and over. Poor kid that didn't get to go
feel batsloor. Really tough times. I'll tell you at plig
show where you find him. Here him tomorrow night with
Arnie Spanier. Thanks Chris, appreciate you hanging out, hoping much fun,
see but good stuff. We'll talk again soon, Mike carbon
find me over at Swollen Dome. Smith will be back
on Monday as we're in for Cavino and Rich but
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, It's the
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Saint Lewis, Welcome to the party. One of the things
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that I think would be your calling card, going back
and owing to the joker there for a moment, would
be your knowledge and love of college athletics as a whole.
We talked a little Oklahoma softball earlier, but also foosball
and college football. With media days this week from Big
(03:23):
Boastful kind of Presentations, we'll talk about the Big twelve
and we'll get some audio from their commissioner in about
twenty minutes from now. But also you know the sad
you know one one violin guy playing for the Pac twelve.
They open though open bar that was, and then you
had the poor guy that wasn't twenty one and all
(03:46):
the events were held out of twenty one and over
representing his team, so we had to go sit over
by himself at the Bellagio. So we saw that, and
then you've got SEC media days, the New World Order
in the Nick Saban era, and I saw this headline,
started reading the article. It got pretty deep. You know,
you're kind of doing the family tree, like you're in
(04:09):
Harry Potter Askaban up on the wall and we're seeing
all the people that are related to the Lastranges and
and everybody else and Gary Oldman's character right serious black
and how.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
You go on down there?
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Or the thing you got to do if you're watching
Game of Thrones that you need that giant chart next
to you to figure out who the hell everybody is.
Same thing here. It was kind of the here's everything
that happened because of Nick Saban leaving college football to
become an analyst, speechmaker and sometimes a comedian. It was
over four hundred people, Chris Blank and I think they
(04:47):
were being conservative with that estimate, the number of jobs
and lives affected directly by his departure. Yeah, you not
only have. I mean, I just saw af the top
of my head. The Washington staff is completely different, The
Arizona staff becomes completely different, and than in that, the
San Jose State staff becomes completely different, and then whomever Santos.
(05:10):
So there's four full staffs that are affected with support staff.
Then you got the player movement that took place, and
oh yeah, by the way, you have those Alabama assistants
that were there that might go somewhere else or it's
wild just to see the amount of difference or the
amount of change that triggered. And now I think going forward,
just the biggest question, more than anything else, is how
(05:32):
different is it going to make Alabama? Right, We're going
into a season where returning quarterbacks on I guess you
could say playoff favorites are few and far between. Dylan
Gabriel is the Heisman favored right now. He was at
Oklahoma last year, he's in Oregon. Now everyone's picking Ohio State.
(05:52):
They're going to have likely a first year starting quarterback.
Alabama and Georgia are the two contenders where you you.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Could throw like a Missouri in there.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
I guess too, They're the three where you're like, oh
my gosh, they got a starting quarterback that's returning for them.
Is that gonna be enough? With Jalen Milroe and Alabama
this season? I don't know. This was a team that
lost to Texas last year and you know, kind of
had a politic their way into the playoffs. But I'm
I'm telling you right now, I just don't think it's
gonna be a what is it?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Wash? Rinse repeat, rinse, wash repeat? Is that like ready,
aim and shoot, it's.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Gonna be out wash? You go get a stud like
Kaylen to Bor. He's gonna do great things. But all
the change that resulted because of Nick Saban leaving probably
the biggest change more than anything else, Mike, everyone kind
of feels like an opportunity opened up. Yeah, George has
been on fire recently. They won two straight titles. How
dare they lose a game last year?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Absolutely? Do you realize they haven't lost an SEC regular
season game in two years? Their last two SEC losses
have been in the SEC championship game to Alabama. And
that's how good Georgia has been so obviously Kirby Smart
has it cooking. But everywhere else, especially Ohio State, who
got two really good players out of them leaving. It's
a fascinating, maybe over talked story for those of us
(07:13):
that live this every day, every second. But Mike, we
always just pencil in Alabama to the playoffs. Are we
gonna continue to do that? They have both, Nick Sabanera,
let me do this sec winner odds right now, going
across a number of sports books. This is through Vegas
Insider dot com. Updated as today. You've got Georgia the
favorite two to one basically across the board, a couple
(07:36):
of plus one fifties, Texas being second somewhere between three
to one. That makes no sense. Three and a half
returning starting quarterback. There you are and arching on.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Well, but it also becomes the large alumni base, large
amounts of wagers and all those You start moving some
odds along the way. Sure, Oh, miss is third at
six or seven to one. There's another starting quarterback that's
back Jackson Dart. Okay, Jackson Dart, We've heard of him.
That's a good name because it's got the X. Yes right.
(08:11):
Fourth is Alabama at eight to one, Wow, ahead of
LSU nine or ten to one, Missouri twelve, anywhere from
nine to fourteen to one, so you could do some
price shopping and maybe find yourself some love there.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
That's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
And then Tennessee coming in behind them, so Vegas isn't
necessarily over that. Even though those aren't terrible odds, that
seems about where I would have them right now. I'm
still shocked by the Texas talk. But if there is
anything I would tell people that don't really follow college football,
(08:46):
this is for some reason the way that Texas is
viewed and talked about every single off season. Well, but
they're the Cowboys just at the collegiate level.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Oh, absolutely, Like how.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Do we find a way to blaine a player, players, coaches,
whatever into greatness? I mean, that's just it. The expectation
is there's going to be a year where everything clicks.
And to your point, I mean continuity. I mean we
watch it in all sports, sure, I mean certainly in
the NFL. I mean you could count on one hand,
(09:18):
and then why you and I, as Raiders and Bears fans,
we shake our heads because continuity is not a thing
we know right between coaching staffs, quarterbacks. It's a veritable
roulette wheel spinning round and round and wondering where the
ball's get to Land. Whereas you look at Green Bay,
you look at New England for all those years, you
(09:38):
look at San Francisco, Kansas City. Now you pick five
or six teams, that's it. They're outliers, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, what
do I get to seven or eight? And then the
rest of the league, good luck. Detroit's trying to get there.
You got a couple of teams that look like they
might be heading in that direction. But most others it's
organized chaos in college sports, same thing, especially the way
(10:03):
jobs shuffle and players finding the next best thing, right,
I mean. One of the other stories that was circulating
coming out of all these media days was Jane Norvel
talking about a player saying he was offered six hundred
k to leave Colorado State to go to Kansas State,
and then said, well, I'm not saying there's anything wrong,
(10:25):
that they did anything wrong, Like, no, you wouldn't have
brought it up, right if you didn't think there was
some foul play going on.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Coach he named names double time.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
Well, I'll say this, though college football used to have that,
they used to have that stability. It was no but
that's just it. It was it anymore it's not. You
may look at the conferences. I mean you're learning a
whole new way, not just with conferences, but with your roster.
I mean, call it what you want. People get mad
when you call it pay for play for some reason,
but it's pay for play. David Randa the best quote
(10:55):
of media Days. It wasn't my Gundhy, it was Dave.
We'll get to him because I know you've got some thoughts. Yeah,
you've known and covered Gun for years. Data had the
best quote of Big twelve media Days. They said, what's
you've recruited better than Baylor?
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Straight?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
He's head coach at Baylor. They struggled last year, they
were not good. He had a great recruiting class. They
asked him to say, hey, what helped your recruiting this year?
You guys had a great recruiting class. He said, and
I'm not kidding dead Penny goes. We can pay the players.
We paid players. That's how we got a good recruiting class.
And I literally lost it because he said the quiet
part out loud. Yeah, they paid a Listen. We got
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the kid that were down between us and TCU because
we offered him ten grand more year. That's the world
that we live in right now, and I think we're
still intrigued to see how that works in locker rooms.
We're in the very infancy of it, and then what
is going to be the lasting effect. There's so many
nerdy angles. I could take us down. Well, we could
(11:51):
keep doing that, but I'll just say this is a
fun opening salvo to what is a long, arduous college
football season. Media Days kicks it off.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
That's a very fancy way to put it.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
And SEC Media Day start on Monday, four days, four days,
four teams a day. We're going to be there for
a while. It's a big hotel bill. But it goes
back to Nick Saban, and it goes back to what
I think is going to be the most intriguing question
in college football this year. Yes, we have twelve teams
in the playoffs. Now how long will we have twelve?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Will we move to sixteen? Probably?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yes, we have Texas trying to get to that level
in the SEC along with Oklahoma where they can be
national championship contenders. Right, they're all new Big ten and everything.
But to me, it's is Alabama's dominance, all right? Is
it going to be tabled for a little bit? Because
what Nick Saban did pretty amazing, man. And even when
they weren't playing for national championships, Mike, they were still
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in the mix. Yeah, and you take a team that
loses its leader, I think it's going to be why
we don't. We've kind of slept on it a little
bit over the last few months because kayleble Boor has
gone into Tuscaloosa Alabama fans. You know, he has done
all the right things and set all the right things.
He's opened it up more. He talks to the media.
But I think it's brilliant. You know, you get him
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on your side a little bit more. But if you
don't win, we know what's going to happen. And I
think that's going to be a very fascinating storyline to follow.
Alabama's dominance does a continue minus Nick Saban, Well, you
become the favorite son for a moment. It's like the
backup quarterback that gets elevated. You get a couple of games,
maybe a couple of seasons as a coach, but the
sand in the hour glass runs out pretty fast if
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the winning doesn't follow.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Hey, we appreciate how cool you are. You're very funny
and I'm glad that we got this open invitation to practice,
but we just lost to LSU.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, we're not happy right now.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's just it, you know, it's funny. But talking about
Nick Saban, I just remember, and I wasn't a member
of the media. I was just hanging out. I was
at it worked for Yahoo, so I was working in sports.
But we lived for a couple of years on the
Stanford campus. My ex wife, she was in grad school
at the time, and that was when the shrine game
there was still all that. Yeah, but literally it was
(14:01):
on the intermural fields right by the housing facility that
they had that we lived in. I literally walked onto
the sidelines and would meet up and talk to these guys,
right Brady, At one point, I'm standing there and all
of a sudden, I'm between Brent Jones Jerry Jones, and
now he's introducing me to Hayden Fry and a bunch
of other coaches. Like it's weird as hell, But that
(14:23):
was where I ended up meeting Nick Saban for the
first time, and he had just taken the LSU job,
but he still honored his commitment to come to coach
there as he was leaving Michigan State. Who knew he
would become the guy that he did.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Like we're chatting and he's like, you know, it's a
great opportunity. I'm like, well, well, mission in the Big ten,
you know, me being Big ten apologists with my Northwestern degree.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
No.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
One of the thrills being in Evanstone was that these big, bad,
dominant coaches and teams would come play at Little then
Dyke Stadium, Lara Ryan Field now raised and gonna get rebuilt,
and now we're gonna play on me. It's amazing, it's
gonna look good. But another team, you know, school like
my school one of my big lamentations. Like, there's a
(15:08):
lot of things and misguided things and decision making that
I still have questions about over the last couple of years.
But when it comes to nil and all of these things, Northwestern, Syracuse, Duke, Stanford,
all of those schools should have been first, had first
mover advantages with all of the smarty pants that are
running around in every operation in business to try to say, okay,
(15:31):
how do we take advantage of this? And they were
all late to the game, every last damn one of them.
In terms of trying to figure it out because it
wasn't a priority when it should have been, because you're
gonna work nimbly and maybe found some way to get
that competitive advantage. Now, Northwestern's had its runs, no question
about it. But when you're watching the world change, you
(15:51):
know first mover advantages because eventually you know there's going
to be some sort of regulatory part of it that
starts to creep back in. So while it's the wild West,
figure out where you can, where you can win, and
say that quiet power part out loud as you need to.
He's Chris Plank in for Jason Smith on Mike harmon
Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with Me Mike Carmon.
(16:12):
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needed all of that. All right, here we go blank.
We got some Heisman odds, Dylan Gabriel and Carson Beck
currently between seven and eight to one. Okay, you got
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Quinn yours at ten to one, Will Howard coming in
at fourteen to one, and then Nico IAmA levea.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
We how to say?
Speaker 3 (19:15):
It was like Ima Leva, Yeah, that's it. I've seen
it in a couple of different ways. And then you
get Jalen mill wrote Jackson Dart both at sixteen to one,
and then Garrett nuss Meyer at eighteen to one. Lsu
any of those gets you excited? Yeah? Does that the
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Tennessee quarterback? Is that the guy that's?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
IAmA leava there the IAmA anciation. No, I don't think
a freshman quarterback is gonna win it. And I get it.
He's a red shirt freshman, and I know that Johnny
Manziel did that, and Nico's pretty special. Jackson Arnold's pretty
special for Oklahoma, but I think that they're going to
take some lumps this year. The name you said that
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fascinates me, and I'm not trying to suck up to
our listeners in Tuscaloosa tonight. But as Jalen Milroe right,
you go from an offense that was a little bit
makeshifted times last year Tommy Rees, I don't necessarily know
how well he graded out, especially in the eyes of
Alabama fans. Now you bring in an offensive minded head
(20:22):
coach that has worked wonders with at least one transfer,
quarterback Mike Carman. I remember watching Michael Pinnock's play at
Indiana and when he transferred. I know he had injuries
that he had overcome and everything, And when he transferred
to Washington, I openly laughed. I was like, what are
they doing? Why in the world would they get that guy.
He's like thirty years old, he's on a bum leg,
(20:43):
and he's terrible, And look what happened. He ended up
taking his team to the playoffs championship game and was
a top ten pick in the draft. So obviously, Kaylyn
de Boor knows a thing or two about quarterbacks and
developing them, so I would find that as a flyer.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
You know.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
The interesting one though, is Dylan Gabriel. I'm working on.
I'm work shopping either a take or putting some numbers
behind it. I think quarterbacks struggle whenever they go in
as just a one year starter. I don't think dying
ness this now. Jalen Hurts is the anomaly to this.
He went to Oklahoma in twenty nineteen took the team
to the playoffs. Caleb Williams was incredible his first year
(21:21):
at USC, but again he was there for a second
year too, so you knew you had him for two years.
Sam Hartman, you remember everyone after the listen I'm not here.
I listened to you guys NonStop, and I remember Jason
was telling us how Sam Hartman was gonna win the
Heisman Trophy and it wasn't even going to be closed.
I think he was just enamored by his beard and hair.
He's a very handsome man. It's already trying to look
(21:42):
like clipboard Jesus revisited. But he was a one year
rent a quarterback like Riley Leonard is at Notre Dame
this year, like will Howard is at Ohio State, like
Dylan Gabriel, is all these quarterbacks that you're yelling at
the radio, what about Joe Burrow? Joe Burrow was at
LSU for two years, justin fields at Ohio State for
a couple of years. You get in that system, you
(22:03):
get around the players and the coaches, you become more
understanding of what they need. So I'm not trying to
spell doom for either Dylan Gabriel or Will Howard. I
just found myself fascinated to see those two names Mike
in the top five of the heighest nods right now,
And according to ESPN bet today, those odds shifted and
(22:24):
it's as odd of a shift as they've seen. These
will still be the longest odds that a preseason favorite
will go into the season with. But it's wild to
me to see how some of it is still moving around.
I guess what people just looking for? Maybe value at
this point. Yeah, I think part of it is also
trying to suss out schedules and how the process is
(22:45):
working with all of the conference changes. Right we talk
about the SEC new coaches not just saving what A
and M Mississippi State, and then you're talking about a
revamped big ten, figure out themization what Michigan becomes and
right whatever, what is Michigan gonna be? No idea clue?
(23:06):
How good is Penn State?
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
How good is James Franklin? I don't know. Does Drew
Allerd get better? I mean he's thirty five to one?
Is he really is schor Sanders? You want to guess
fifty forty? There might be some value there, at least
in a floor curious, but I didn't look right off
the jump. They could get beat by North Dakota State.
It all goes to hell. Yeah, by the way, North
(23:28):
Dakota State and South Dakota State looking like pretty good
picks in that first week in as south to Dakota
State is Oklahoma State. But it's interesting because you do
bring up the whole angle of it's it's all new
and one of these just everyone has slammed dunked that
nothing's gonna change for Oregon and it's just going to
be easier and better for them. They've got a trip
(23:51):
to ann Arbor they're gonna have to take in November.
They've got Ohio State coming to Eugene on October twelve.
They've got to deal with going to Madison, Wisconsin on
November sixteenth. Again, I don't know if Wisconsin's going to
be any good or not, but they're good at home.
They're great at home, so and it's November by then
they will have gelled into whatever they're gonna be there.
(24:12):
We're kind of rubber stamp in Oregon and I'm not listen.
I love Jeff Schwartz. I'm not trying to be answered to,
picnic for him or anything, but I just I think
that some of these moves are gonna be more challenging.
I love my Sooners, I love Oklahoma. I think it's
gonna be a pretty tough year. I think Texas is
gonna have a tough year. So it's just it's different.
I think USC is gonna have a tough season. I mean,
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it's just it's hard. It's a different world. But after
you get your feet settled and you're able to recruit
more towards that conference and with that conference as your backdrop,
I think Oregon's gonna be better in time. I think
oklahom is gonna be good in time. Texas too, But
this first year shift is gonna be odd. So long
way to get to the point I would probably steer
clear of anyone that's a one year starting quarterback or
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a first year starting quarterback, or are their teams in
a new car.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I think I would want someone a little stablish Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
I just think there's just that potential for chaos. And look,
it might be fine right if organization, you know, and
and fluidity and the way you approach business right, business
as usual. It's just a longer road trip, more zoom,
calls back into classes or whatever the case it's got
to be. But there are some new variables added to
(25:22):
the equation when you start going into going across multiple
time zones in a new conference. New style style makes
fight the old you know line that we use all
the time, Chris, you know, my daughter's playing in you
know the some some pretty high stakes you know stuff
for soccer out in Virginia this week. And one of
(25:43):
the teams they play like everybody's a head taller, like
to just grow them different. But the style starts to change, right,
a little more physicality, try and test where the referees are.
I mean, we see it in every every sport we're watching,
you know, Copa America. And we had some great audio
from the Uruguay coach, but you know it's it's not translated.
(26:03):
And since we're not simulcast on FS one right now,
I say, right now, him shaking his fist and screaming
with subtitles, it doesn't work on radio, so we're not
gonna play it. But it's just the idea of you know,
you come into a facility, come into a space, and
sometimes it's not what you expect, and sometimes the rules
of engagement are a little different in conference to conference,
(26:25):
and it's not like it used to be, right the
Big ten. As much as I loved my three yards
and a cloud of dust, you know, that left a
long time ago. So it's now, you know, trying to
recruit against teams in your conference that are now eighteen
twenty teams deep, and then the Big twelve with all
their bold proclamations of how they're they're coming and what
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the next iteration of that is. We'll hear from their
commissioner coming up in about fifteen minutes. But it's just
that kind of idea, Chris, that you know, there's just
so many variables and trying to figure out exactly what
the coefficient is on them. See how nerdy I really
got that Yeah. And by the way, you bringing up
the shador Sanders. Let's remember too, the Heisman conversation is
(27:06):
a much different one than like who's going to the playoffs,
especially with twelve teams or to the pros or any
of those both things. Yeah, and it's uh, there might
be some value in those long Ger odds, especially Milroe
looking at Sanders, because I just I think there's gonna
be some of those favorites right now that just aren't
necessarily my eyes, guys, and I would look at favorites
(27:28):
as favorites for the Heisman Trophy.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
He's Chris blank In for Jason Smith. I'm Mike Harmon
here Fox Sports Radio. Now let's turn over to the
news desk one final time tonight. Chris. It's our guy,
Steve de Seger and his disco ball is down, by
the way.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
For college football schedule, things get going in earnest the
final weekend of August, and we do have a Thursday
night Fox TV game that weekend with North Carolina at Minnesota.
The big noon kickoff the last Saturday in August that
is new in Eastern time on Fox State at West
Virginia and USC's opener this season is a Sunday night
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in Vegas, the Trojans against LSU as for football tonight. Yeah,
the CFL plays one game Thursday, one Friday, one Saturday.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Let's go.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
That's their schedule pretty much every weekend. They don't have
many teams in the league. At Winnipeg tonight, quarterback Zach
Klaros from the University of Cincinnati a winner as the
Blue Bombers took it forty one thirty seven over Calgary.
A reminder, Wimbledon has the ladies final tomorrow and then
the men's final Sunday. That men's final will be Novak
Djokovic against Carlos Alcarez, as each advanced. Today, Ludwig Oberg
(28:37):
leads the Scottish Open by one stroke. And Fox TV
will have two potentially great games on Sunday with the
Euro Soccer Finals Sunday at three pm Eastern Time from Berlin.
It's England against Spain, and the Copa America Final is
Sunday nights on Fox TV, with Argentina against Columbia from
Miami eight pm Eastern Time Sunday. Colombia is unbeaten in
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its last twenty eight games. Over the last two and
a half years since a loss to Argentina. Argentina ranked
number one in the world. By the way, the US
women's soccer team is going to be in action with
an exhibition this weekend. Now the Women's Soccer League NWSL
is off for about a month and a half. Women's
soccer with that pre Olympic exhibition Saturday in New Jersey
(29:23):
against Mexico. Lynn Williams was added to the US team
for the injured Katerina Macario, who has a sore knee.
US Olympic women's basketball team in just over a week
has its sendoff game against a team of WNBA Stars,
and then that hoops league will be off for about
a month due to the summer games. There were three
WNBA games tonight, Seattle at home Rip Minnesota ninety one
(29:47):
sixty three, Necka Gumaca twenty six points. Las Vegas won again,
this time at Atlanta, Asia Wilson. She got thirty three
points and eighteen rebounds and five blocks and billboards everywhere
well does start this year again. Indiana winner over Phoenix
rookie Caitlin Clark twenty points and thirteen assists. NBA Summer
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League started in Las Vegas today Houston first rounder Reed
Shepherd had twenty three points in a win over the Lakers.
Lakers first rounder Dalton Connect twenty five points, Lakers second
rounder Bronnie James three of fourteen shooting from the floor
from three point range oh of eight. He had eight points,
no assists, three turnovers. The Lake game, by the way,
(30:29):
had Denver against the Clippers and the Nuggets. Recent first
rounder to Ron Holmes was injured, the Athletics saying he
suffered a torn achilles and is out for the Nuggets
upcoming season. Athletic also saying Detroit is hiring Luke Walton
as lead assistant. Jalen Brunson agreed to an extension with
the Knicks. The late game in Major League Baseball, San
(30:50):
Francisco seven to one over Minnesota. Arizona on a sackfly
bottom of the ninth beat Toronto five to four. Atlanta
was a six to one winner at San Diego. Padres
have lost in a row. Marcel Ozuna with his twenty
fifth and twenty six home runs for the Braves. Seattle
had won three in a row, but gave up a
two run homer bottom of the tenth and lost to
the Angels six to five. Mariners pitcher Logan Gilbert was
(31:12):
replaced on the All Star roster by Seattle pitcher Andres Munoz.
The All Star Game is on Fox TV Tuesday from Texas,
and the National League starting pitcher will be Pirates rookie
Paul Skenes. He is six and oh with an ERA
of one point nine oher. Pittsburgh beat the White Sox
four to one tonight. White Sox record now twenty seven
and sixty nine, possibility of seventy losses there by All
(31:35):
Star break.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yay.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Washington had lost five in a row, but got a
win at Milwaukee against Freddie Perolta in Company, five to two.
The Cubs won their fifth in a row, five to
one at Saint Louis. Cubs have thrown thirty two straight
scoreless innings from the starters on the road. Kyle Hendricks
got the win tonight Houston's jose Al Tuvey with a
three run homer, beating Texas sixty three. Houston's won four
(31:59):
in a row. In fact, the Astros are just one
game behind first place Seattle in the AL West. In
the Al East, Yankees just one game behind the Orioles.
Now Yanks won at Baltimore four to one. Aaron Judge
with his thirty third homer. Mets won there fourth in
a row. Kansas City won its fourth straight home wins
for Tampa Bay and Cincinnati. Oakland won at Philadelphia six
(32:19):
to two, and the Dodgers were four to three winners
at Detroit, ruining a good start from Trek Scouble. No
decision for him. He's ten and three because in the
top of the ninth show, Hey Otani hit the go
ahead RBI double ground rule double the center field. Otani
was sixty seven runs batted in back to you, So
I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
You go one of these shoes, your own adventure. Rolling
Stone's lyrics to describe the White Sox it's just your
nineteenth nervous breakdown or sad, sad sad, but you're gonna
be fine.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Uh yeah, the latter.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
There you have it.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
There's not enough nerves worked up for White Sox game
this year to suffer a breakdown.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
No, this is true, Thanks so much, Steve. Steve Disager
at the News desk tonight, Chris plank In for Jason Smith.
Coming up, we'll turn our attention back to college athletics
for another moment. We got the Big twelve commissioner making
big bold proclamations and maybe some grand expansion still on
the horizon. And we'd be remiss if we didn't let
(33:17):
Chris Plank comment on a guy he's known for a
couple of decades, and boy, how I wished if he
just said I'm a man, I'm forty again instead of
what he did. We'll talk about it next on Fox.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio Jason Smith Show
with Me, Mike Carmon, Chris Blank in for a Jason Smith.
Thanks to everybody been part of the team this week.
Arnie Spanier, who you'll be back on with two straight nights. Yeah,
tomorrow night, same time slot for this year's show, eight
p What would that be? Eight yody, Well, Pacific time,
(34:01):
eight to eleven Pacific?
Speaker 2 (34:02):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:03):
That sounds right, So there you go, and then back
at it on Sunday to eleven Pacific, So you got
seven to eleven, so you got that fourth hour. Get
those fours up the Power Hour as he is. Yeah,
but he did that on the third Hour the other day.
I'm like, what are you doing. He's got he's got
a label for everything. Man label for everything. And man, folks,
gotta get through what again, find your wins, whatever, whatever
(34:25):
pushes you through to that finish line. You need to
chip on your shoulder. You need to stare into a
wall that you know that imagining that person that you
felt slighted you. As long as you're not hurting anybody,
do what you gotta do. Rich Hornberger on Tuesday, our
guy Jason Fitz You guys con miserate on the Raiders.
Martin Weiss yesterday and of course Chris Plank tonight at
Plank Show. Find me over at Swollen Dome Jason and I.
(34:48):
On Monday we'll be in for Cavino and Rich and
we'll roll from there. We've had some a bunch of
college stuff. First, we're gonna go to a guy you've
known forever in Mike Gundhy. You had the unfortunate incident
with Ali Gordon the second and a dui arrest. You
know this comes in conjunction with that long article and
(35:10):
breakdown because You've got a number of driving infractions by
Georgia players over the last several years, so you get
that right. Another couple of guys this week, So you've
got all these incidences. But here was Gundhi commenting earlier
this week, and you know, for those that haven't heard it,
you may want to back away a little bit because
(35:31):
you might cringe.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
So I looked it up on my phone. What would
be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point eight and
Olie was point one. So I looked it up and
it was based on body weight, not to get into
the legal side of it, but I thought, really, two
or three beers or four. I'm not justifying what all
I did. I'm telling you what decision I made. So
(35:54):
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
my life, and you know, it's just fine.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
So I got lucky. People get lucky.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
All he made a decision that he wished he could
have done better. But when I talked to Ollie, I
told him said, you're lucky you got out, like because
you make a lot of money to play football. So
back in the day, being able to cover the cost
of what he's going to go through would be difficult
for a college player. It's not for him. Now I'm
(36:21):
not speaking for him, but I'm just saying that's not
an issue for him.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
So nop.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
So that that gets us to where we need to
the about one thousand. It's a four minute and thirty
second answer to the question too. Yeah, he kept going
like that's where it began, and we had it, you know,
truncating here shortly, but you know, trying to you know,
mind time here and get comments. And Gundhi obviously has
given a lot of quotes, some memorable, some rants through
(36:50):
the years. This one, I had to play it back
a second time. It's like I heard him say that
right the thousand times, that that a thousand times myself. Mike,
he hasn't and he tried to back it down later goes, wow,
I wasn't speaking specifically, No, no, no, you said that specifically.
It was pretty much a verbatim. I can have the
court reporter read it back to you. Mike, Gundy is
(37:14):
in a mode that I want to get at some
point in my life, not drinking a thousand beers and
then going out and hitting the back roads of Payne County. No, no, no,
he is in the ultimate I d gaf. He doesn't
give a bleep and he's earned that, I guess in
still Water. But he's also he's also had a masterclass
(37:35):
when things like this happen, even going back to the
I'm a man, I'm forty and putting the focus on
him and things he says are things he dos does
and not the players. I don't think it's on purpose though, Mike,
I love the guy. I think he's a trip. I
think he's done a heck of a job as a
head coach, and I think that he's going to be
able to coach at Oklahoma State as long as he wants. Yeah,
(37:57):
but man, he has a mass through class in standing
up for his players. But I don't think doing it
on purpose, in coming up and saying something that makes
the focus get off the players but puts it right
on him. And I don't think it's intentional. I just
think he sticks his foot in his mouth a lot
of times. Sometimes that quiet part out loud that we're
not good yeah no, sometimes doesn't work out so much
(38:19):
so well and really cast a big shadow. And then
we have Brett Yormark on the other side, Big twelve Commissioner.
You had some negotiations with Colorado, talking about what a
master negotiator he is as you look at conference expansion.
But then he dropped this one, saying, hey, wait, we're
just getting warmed up.
Speaker 5 (38:36):
We're one of the and I say this often, we're
one of the three best conferences in America, and we're
getting better.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Think about where we were just twenty four months ago.
Think about where we are today.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
So I will not stop until the number one conference
in that that's my ambition, not share the number one Clemson,
Florida State and whoever else comes on board. But you
got to like that he's channel little Jim Harbaugh, relentless enthusiasm.
Did nobody push back on that? I don't think so.
(39:07):
I think he got to do kind of like w
W shoot, okay, yeah, the mic I like Brett you
or Mark a lot. I think he's exactly what the
Big twelve needed. But this idea that they're better off
without Oklahoma and Texas is the dumbest thing I think
I've ever heard in my life. Well, what's he gonna say?
I mean, he's got cry for me and plan have
a little violin guy in the background. I mean, just
don't But yeah, that's don't say stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
I mean, it's just you're not better off.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, but that's us from the out world outside. I
think looking in you obviously very close to the situation
and saying, hey, you know, we're kind of a big
deal here, no question. But you know he's got to
put on the brave face. I had just take a
little Paul McCartney in the background, mob Brad my bread,
my brave face. Uh. And and you know, buck up,
(39:51):
Camper because it's going to be a tough road without
all that revenue. No, that's not what he's They're in
a better place than they've ever been. No, that's what
we're saying in his buy And you know, it's the
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn and
people like me Stuart Smalling kind of thing because he's
got to sell the constituency.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
That's a Saturday Night Live reference. By the way, peeps,
you got to catch up the thing that I'm throwing
all the way back to the mid eighties.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Baby. That's that's one thing I will say.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Though I appreciate the enthusiasm, I think we're getting ready
for another seismic shift.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
On the conference front, and we're going to.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Be down to a power three at some point, so
Big twelve is well positioned to be in that group
going forward. And the main reason is because of Brett
you or Mark's vision. Oh and by the way, to
Pack twelve and Ploty well, the fact that Larry Scott
and his band of Merriman fumbled the bag at every opportunity. Yeah,
and then they had that sad little cocktail party twenty
(40:41):
one and over. Poor kid that didn't get to go
feel batsloor. Really tough times. I'll tell you at plig
show where you find him. Here him tomorrow night with
Arnie Spanier. Thanks Chris, appreciate you hanging out, hoping much fun,
see but good stuff. We'll talk again soon, Mike carbon
find me over at Swollen Dome. Smith will be back
on Monday as we're in for Cavino and Rich but
coming up next year on Fox Sports Radio, It's the
(41:02):
Bernie Fredo Show, It's Fox. Thanks for being with us.
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