December 27, 2025 • 36 mins
Mike Harmon and Arnie Spanier (in for Jason Smith) open hour 4 discussing longtime Utah head coach Kyle Whittingham being hired as Michigan's next coach... Is he the right guy for the job? Then they get into the quarterback situation in Baltimore, debating whether they really do believe John Harbaugh when he says he and Lamar's relationship is "an A-plus".
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As we go into this final phase here, Arnie, we've
got a new coach at Michigan. Yes, the well long
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short search depending on who you believe in terms of
this timeline and the little bits and pieces that have
dribbled out over the last couple of weeks, the firing
as Sharon Moore back on December tenth. December twelfth, Winningham,
the new coach, left Utah saying I'm entering the transfer portal,
not I'm retiring.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Why did it take so long for them to hire him?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Though?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, I think you're doing your due diligence to a degree. Right,
you're trying to see what else when you pick up
another rock is underneath it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Like the boards.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I mean, was that really a possibility had he lost
that game?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well? Not just coaches though, aren't he? I mean, you're
also if you're winning him, you're asking a lot of questions.
So I don't know how long he'd been talking to them. Obviously,
Scally was named the coach in waiting going back to
last season before they entered.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I thought he left Utah to take that Michigan John.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I thought all along, that's that's what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But certainly that is part of the speculation, right when
how who? What? Why? Where? But part of it was
at some point for the university, you might lose your
coach in waiting because they get tired of waiting.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
In this case, it was only a year. But we've
seen that in a number of circumstances where you've had
a guy waiting around, going this guy's never gonna leave,
is he? He likes it here, and then the assistant
goes and takes a job somewhere else. We've seen it
in basketball, we've seen it in football, and it's happened before,
but here with Utah, you're also talking about a change
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where you're bringing in this other money initiative in terms
of how things are going to be funded and run
going forward. That maybe winning him looking at the landscape
wasn't too keen on. So there's a lot of moving parts,
but certainly the more firing followed by his entering the portal. Sure,
the timing says, okay, this was in the offing, but
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in terms of announcing it, I gotta imagine on winning
side now, there's no hint of scandal for him, nothing
in his past. Right. The word that showed up most
in any write ups I've seen is integrity keeps being
brought up.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But yeah, by the way, you keep saying that you know,
or people keep saying that he wasn't gonna have a
chance to win it Utah like Ukenna Michigan. Is it
Utah or BYU? I thought maybe it was BYU that
gets a lot of money, was it from the hotel
chains and stuff like that. They they they get big
time money that gets donated to them for nil, So
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I'm not so sure.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
That that's on the same page. They do get a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, yeah, BYU's got it. You know, a bunch of
corporate sponsorships and other things. When we talk about the
Utah side of things, there was a private equity company
that was coming in, and that gets very complicated and
kind of weirds people out because it's the new iteration, right,
the business of college sports as opposed to you know,
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once upon a time people bury their head in the
and said, isn't it all golly g everybody's just playing
for the love of the game, which we knew was
garbage for decades. Right, people were getting paid satchels of
cash were being passed under the table and smiled, and
we just kept moving on.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
That happened all the time. We just never said anything.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, but that's it. It was the dirty underside to
it all, and we move on. And now you have
one after another people that are no longer associated with
a school going, oh yeah, we used to do this
all the time, or talk about the middlemen that were used.
Some try to do the plausible deniability. I didn't have
any idea because you had fifteen middlemen, so you might
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have ordered a very nebulous code read and how it
got executed did matter as long as the guy was
there for practice and for the weight training sessions each week.
But where we're at with Winningham is I think partially
on his side. One, You're trying to negotiate and see
how desperate Michigan is to have you, because you had
a lot of other names passed through, some current coaches,
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some former coaches, debor you mentioned him. Well, if the
Alabama had lost, might that have put the machine in motion? Maybe?
We certainly saw Brahm's name out there. We saw so
many fish jed fish right after after there.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He wasn't gonna get the job because he's a Michigan
guy though, right.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, but that but that begs it. Well. But but
I ask you, and I put this out as a
if I'm the board of trustees and I'm looking at
what we've had at Michigan the last couple of years,
and yes, you've got a national title that's not being
taken away. But in the aftermath, you had suspensions, right,
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Sharon Moore missed multiple games, You had a lot of
people looking around the program. And the Sharon Moore situation
that is currently going on, uh seem seemingly, or at
least for the most part, is a private private issue
and an institutional issue when you start talking about the
job and the pay raise and.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
All that, how does that end for him?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
By the way, Well, he's gonna end up in jail
based on the charges. But even if he doesn't, like
you know, folks were making the equivalents of well, this
guy got caught in an affair of that and he
got a new job. He didn't put a knife to
anybody's neck, right, And you're right about that, Sharon Moore
did all right. That is on the record, that is
not disputed. So all of that to say, when when
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we look at the last couple of weeks, if I'm
winning him and I'm the that team, like, all right,
what else is under there? Right? What else is coming
down the python? Does the NC double A or the
last vestiges? Is there anything where they get involved again
to where there might need to be more sanctions that
hamper what I'm going to try to build for you.
If not, your point about the Michigan Man, which is
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something I brought up earlier in the show, is really
I think where you want to go, you don't want
a guy that's tied to what's gone on these last
couple of years even though there's a bunch of wins
in the harborire. I'm young enough to remember or old
enough to remember, depending on your perspective, that when people
were trying to call for Jim Harbaugh's head, it's like
your team hasn't been relevant in three years and with
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one or two outliers of Lloyd Carr was what three
decades ago, It's like otherwise, you've been a middling team
for a long time. So a guy winning eight nine
games a year is pretty damn good. And then he
goes and gets your title.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And there's plenty of Michigan men also, they're just not
the head coach. They're all the nil guy, you know
what I mean. Well, but that now they're coming to
the they come out of the woodworks. They donate money,
like the Tom Brady's that got Underwood to go to
school there, Like Troy Aikman was telling his story about
how he gave money and didn't get a thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Now it's Troy Aikman the guy that becomes Because I
love films. We've heard the Colin Coward promo where he's
bringing up pulp fiction. Let me go to another Tarantino movie. Yeah,
Troy Aikman, the former athlete who cut the big check,
however big it was, and said, I didn't get a
thank you. I'm done with nil. Is he the mister
pink of nil donors? And everybody out there's laughing. Y'all
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remember the restaurant scene where he makes the pitch against
tipping and then finally you got Chris, But you know what,
I want my dollar back. Maybe Troy Aikman starts a
trend where you got former athletes, it's the business owners
to go, yeah, I didn't get a thank you either,
and I translate to win, So screw that. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I read something where the kids don't know where the
money comes from, so they couldn't thank him anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, but I understand that on a one to one basis.
It still seems to me that if you're UCLA or
insert your own school here, when you've got a guy
of that level of prominence, a Hall of Famer multiple
times in the Super Bowl, number one, pick all of
that stuff, someone's probably telling you to take five seconds
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to sign a greeting card that goes out to a
group of donors and collect if that helped you out here,
record a message saying thank you for the financial inducement
to get you to sign on the dotted line and
become a member of the UCLA program. Even if you
have some voiceover actor, say Troy, that you would get
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something in the mail to say thank you for the
millions of dollars or fifty cents whatever you gave to
help to that contracy.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Give to Northwestern, right.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I give them a couple of bucks every year. I
designated more for the academic the library side.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh yes, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
No, No, there's plenty. Look, there's plenty of guys. I mean
you could see them in and I'm not going to
name them here because sometimes they do us harm in
terms of the Northwestern brand when they associate themselves with it.
And I'll let you all speculate who they are because
he went to the same school, is that guy? Like, yeah,
I did anyway, But it's it's the kind of things
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like they've got plenty of money there. My thing is
to keep the institution as a whole doing its thing,
and they've got a huge endowment. So my extra couple
of cents probably goes towards watering a flower on the
fourth floor. But all of that to say that if
you are cutting a big check, I don't think it
takes much from a collective to have someone in the
secretarial pool or administrative assistant or whatever the job title
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is the student helper to print out a bunch of
cards and take them to the requisite three people to
have them sign. Hey, Bryce, I need you in here.
Like at Michigan, Bryce, I need you in here for
a half hour. You're gonna need to sign a few
cards to people that donated. Okay, for a couple million bucks,
that's the least you can do.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
But my thing is this, why do they even need
a couple of bites?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Like you brought up a good point. What was Michigan endowment?
How much money you think that school has?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, but that's that's different though. I mean that that sits.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's valued to like twenty billion billion.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Dollars, But it's not. It's not that, hey, we can
start siphoning off to pay off a couple of college
football players.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, the idea somebody's there for spending for improvement.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But generally, again it becomes the board of trustees deciding
how because that each one of those covenants is going
to be written differently as to how that money can
be used.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I understand that like a picky.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Bank of hey, we want a new quarterback that the
other is not shiny enough for us, so we need
to go no, no, Hey, we had an earthquake and
a bunch of our buildings got ruined. We need to
and insurance is only covering so much as to what
we want to rebuild, bigger, faster, struggle.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But athletes, athletes probably are the biggest donors to a university.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I would assume, Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh I think, I think, I think there might be.
It depends on the institution, you know, and what you
got out of it, and depending Uh. Yeah, I wouldn't
go quite that far. But but certainly in this particular case,
as we're talking about the Troy Aikman, a little viral
ra that getting someone to send a thank you card
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doesn't seem like too tough a business and bad job
by everybody at UCLA. Of course, they'd already shown and
demonstrated on multiple occasions they don't know what the hell
they're doing in many regards.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do you think Whittingham is somehow gets Underwood to come
back to Michigan or is that bridge already burned?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, I think look it's he might be burned and
singed a little bit by.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think he's gone because I think he wants I
don't think he's happy with the way he played. I
think he's looking to go to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, the potential is there, but where's he going in
the SEC?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I do like that, yeah, but if that doesn't work, okay, So.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I'm sure there's plenty of schools I would love to have.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm not saying that you wouldn't take the shot, but
do you already have your guy in place? As the
portal starts on January second? Which is why as you've
got this Winningham was heading down to Florida, where their
Michigan's is in preparation for the Citters Bowl against Texas,
to go meet the family's glad hand and try to
keep as many of his would be returning twenty two
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out of the portal.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I guess he's not going to bring a lot of
Utah players with him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I guess, well, it remains to be seen.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Right, it was a quote about that, I thought, sure,
but what.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is said in what happens in practice? Because I'm sure
a lot of those guys with the fact that it
is a transition. Well sure, but there's also the fact
that there is a transition to someone who's been in
house in scaley, who's been at the program, so they
know what they're dealing with. Right. It's not a wild
card coach coming in as you might have another situation.
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Doesn't mean that the guy who's the coordinator and position
coach is anywhere near the same once he's the top guy.
We've seen that hundreds, if not thousands of times, and.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now we handles the Ohio state rivalry because it's not
like Utahn BYU, even though that's a pretty big rivalry,
also is on the same scale.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
No, I think some of it is you're blessed to
uh to know what you don't know. It's huge, but
until you're in it. And the other thing is he's
not a kid, right we thought, but we thought and
some folks have taken it as a negative. I don't
think they're looking for a twenty year coach. I think
they're looking for a guy to get them out of
the crap they've dealt with these last couple of years,
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the bad headlines. They've won a lot of football games.
They were nine and three this year.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Rightly, you know who Signetti looks like, don't you win?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Actor?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
He's like a beagless actor that was in an old
sitcom with Tom Hanks Buddies.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're going to Peter Scalari. Yeah, he goes say Peter
on the Bottom Newhart Show.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Come on, Does he not look like that at that?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, I win.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But but I think it's that same thing if like,
Signetti might only be there for a couple of years,
but he's infectious in terms of all right, this is
what we're gonna do. We're gonna go and we're gonna
play our best football. We're gonna kick people in the
teeth and let the chips fall with You've got a
guy with a great track record, all the history that
you have, and you're trying to stabilize your university after
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several years of scandal and questions and and even now
right Sharon Moore, there were there were the recruiting issues
that he had to deal with.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And I don't think he'll have recruiting problems at all.
I think he'll do fine.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
No, no, but it's but it's about cleaning out the guards,
which is why having a non Michigan man is great.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, you may.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You're probably right on not having a non Michigan man.
I think he'll keep more in house players than first
expected if they named another coach.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
No, that's it, I would agree. And whether he brings
a bunch of players with him or not, he's certainly
not going in like Deon Sanders did at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You remember you got the portal though that that's always
good enough to fillip houls.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah. Yeah, but he's not walking in and threatening guys.
You should pack your bags. You I didn't like that.
I'm breaking my guys. Hey you're okay. Nah, you're cut too.
You know that kind of thing. Yeah, we're not gonna
have that. But I think the longevity of it and
what he has is he brings reputation and a history
that you say, okay for now, this is gonna stabilize,
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whether it's two years, four years, however long he's gonna coach.
But the track record is also classic, as we talked
with Pete Futech earlier in the show, classic Big ten
of we're gonna play tough nose football. We're gonna run
the ball and play defense, which plays well at Michigan
and in the Big ten.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You know, just one little side note, I finally think
that would Michigan Ohio State and with that great hire
by Michigan State with Fitzgerald, I think we're gonna have
some great football with that.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Three little you know rivalry there. I think it's gonna
be awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And that's probably the last time Michigan will play Notre
Dame ever, the last time that they played. There's your
joke for the day.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, why is that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, they'll try to get them off the boards. Yeah,
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find themselves standing at the crossroads. I don't know if
Steve Buie's there with a guitar and Ralph Macchio is
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gonna show up, but we'll see on set night as
they get ready for a big showdown against the Green
Bay Packers. Both teams coming at it with their backup quarterbacks.
Malik Willis for the Packers against Snoop Hunley. I watched
Snoop Punley beat the Bears when I traveled to Baltimore
a few weeks ago. Is Lamar Jackson missed a couple
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of games and now he's back out. The large contusion
is what it was put up. We talked about it
briefly yesterday, obliquely a little the column that was up
in the Baltimore Sun talking about video games, late nights,
changing practice schedules, all of those things, and the question
of Lamar Jackson as you look ahead, whether he remains
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a member of the Baltimore Ravens. We talked to Jason
Cole earlier who was convinced look better at comber Heads
will prevail. It's a tough season they've run through. Certainly
Mark Andrews is going back to last year in the playoffs,
and certainly even this last week that would be lateral
that he attempted as he was being tackled ranked among
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the dumber things I've ever seen for a guy that
they just paid a truckload of money to right. Decision
making is part of that equation, isn't it. Yeah, So
either way, disastrous last week and now you turn your
attention ahead to this week. Lots swirling. This article very
skating about where Lamar Jackson is as a professional.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you that story
came from somewhere, So I feel like there's somewhat a
little bit of truth in that, whether they really moved
the practices or what. He's not played his best ball
the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
He's been hurt.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Why is he not suiting up? Some people think that
he's healthy enough to get out there, but he just
doesn't want to play These last couple of games. Now,
that's a serious accusation. You make it, we'll see how
it works out. Look, there's no doubt in my mind
that he's played his last couple of games in Baltimore.
Was that a true quote that said, Hey, if they
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don't want me here and I'll move on, I love
to play in Miami.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Not that I would want him in Miami, But.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did you write that quote?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Being serious, you can tell that he already has the
mindset that he's not coming back next year. I think
Baltimore is going to move on without him, And I
know Jason said, well, cooler heads will prevail. I don't
think that's happening here. I think he's good as gone.
If I was going to play some bet down, Mike,
I'm betting that he's not.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Coming back to the Ravens at all next year.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think a lot of our listeners would probably agree
with me.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, part of what was in that Baltimore's son was
purely speculative of they should look at a trade which
would let them two or three first round picks. Jackson
would love to play in Miami, where two is no
longer the starter. Well, A don't know that. I'm like
I'm just saying I love Miami well, but that's not
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coming from Lamar Jackson, is the point I'm making. That's
purely speculative, a that he wants out of Baltimore and
be that Miami would be the place he'd be choosing
to go again. I've been to Miami once for a
Super Bowl week. It was a miserable experience because I
spent most of my time on that Causeway trying to
go and cover events. But that's either here or there.
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I did find a couple hole in the wall Cuban
food places which were among the most hospitable and delightful
experiences of people and culture and just kind of welcoming
that I've ever had in these Greater United States in
my travels. But oh, that's same for Lamar Jackson. You know,
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the injuries do pile up, and I wonder if we
haven't also hit a weird space in our sporting universe.
And let me explain. He started sixteen games going back
in twenty eighteen, right, well, he appeared in sixteen games,
and then he's appeared as the starter since taking over
for Flacco all those years ago, one hundred and seventy
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attempts that year included in the one hundred and forty
seven carries. This is year eight of his career. Historically,
isn't this where quarterbacks usually went to die and got
put out to past year?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
They certainly don't keep running the way he does.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know what I mean. But that's but just in general,
like the fact that we've had the Brady's and the
Breeze and Manning brothers and whatever else, they're kind of
outlied of Philip Rivers and his forty five year old
self at this point. But those guys are the outliers.
I remember doing you know, the fantasy analysis, like, well,
the last three years there are a handful of guys
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that survived every game, and then you'd have the journeyman.
But in terms of longevity as an unquestioned starter to
when we get to year eight, and certainly his style
has adapted a bit. His completion percentages down three percent
this year, and to this point he's only rushed the
ball sixty three times, which is fewer than half.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Right that his fault that Derek, you know that the
fubbles all over the place too.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
No, but that but that's the larger point to all
of this. Some of that is correctable. John Harball. Folks
want him out. It's the old rule of thumb. If
you're gonna fire him, who's next. I've seen him for
Tom firing him.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm certainly not bringing back Lamar.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You're not You're not bringing back a lock.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I'm not bringing back Lamar no matter what. All right,
that's if I'm calling.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
If I'm calling the shots in Baltimore, it's time for
me to move on out.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I just won two MVPs and narrowly missing.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And thank you for for your service. It's time to
move on out. It's there's too much bad water under
the bridge right now. I don't think it could be fixed.
That's why stories like this leak. I think Baltimore fans
want him gone. To be honest, honest with you and
ready to try something else.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's the problem with this society. You're one of those
guys that goes to the store and buys something and says, hey,
if it lasts me three weeks, I got my Money's
said eight years now, right, But it's not like you've
had a decided drop off in his play. Yeah, it's
changed a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Off in this play. I've had injuries in this place.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Well, the injuries are are certainly a thing that you
consider as you go forward, there's no question about it.
But it also becomes the replacement cost. What in the
marketplace are you getting that's anywhere near Lamar Jackson when
he's eighty percent healthy, let alone one hundred?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Am I getting it?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
How about I go find another wide receiver? How about
you go find like This is where it also falls
back on some of the management kind of like we
were talking about with the Lakers, is like you got
a plan for that to have a deeper rotation and
a deeper degree of depth. I love DeAndre Hopkins seven
years ago when he was running around right, right, right right.
Zay Flowers is a good player. Is he at number one? No?
(26:50):
And Mark Andrews you paid him top been money and
he's good at times, But boy, is decision making in
big game moments certainly haven't been there. And we could
say that about Lamar to a degree. But you're running
out and wishing and hoping that with duct tape and
bandages that Ronnie Stanley's gonna be there on the offensive line,
and when he is, and it goes to hell. John
(27:10):
Harbon needs to look in the mirror. I still I
wonder how many people there on Saturday are holding up
signs that just say twelve to fifty three like they
used to have the John three sixteen or Austin three
sixteen at wrestling shows. Twelve fifty three. Derrek Henry didn't
see the ball in the fourth quarter, the final twelve minutes,
three second when he had run for one hundred and
(27:33):
twenty eight yards and two scores.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
By the way Spaccoli sends in that says, I agree
with the stick of genius a million percent. Lamar keeps
getting injured when the Ravens need him the most. I
think he wants Harbor fired and or out of Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Potential is there, right, And certainly I don't dismiss it.
It just becomes the when we get one report, that
means one guy talking on a bad day, right, and
maybe the practice if the practice schedule had changed because
of him, there's way too many people that would have
needed to keep that a secret. That's a lot of
(28:11):
no no, but that's a lot of people affected. If
if they knew, if if any of them got win,
that it was because Lamar was up playing video games
till the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Well, I got to assume if he is playing, he's
playing with a teammate or or something, or.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Maybe he just play instances himself and goes online. And
could he's out there hanging out. Maybe he's playing Kyler Murray.
See how he gets just dragged in here because it's
a video gamest NFL QB or something NFL QB eight. Yeah, no,
either way, It again goes back to our larger conversation
of the quarterback position and where there's such a decided
(28:50):
drop off because even if he's not Lamar Jackson won
one A with Josh Allen at the top of the board,
figure out where you want Joe Burb and those guys
in the mix, He's still in that elite category.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yes, yes, but I mean all these quarterbacks, you know,
the Kyler Murray's, the two is the Lamar Jackson's DeShawn Watson's.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
They gotta go play somewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're trying to push to Shawn Watson. You're getting a cut.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, but he's not gonna You think he's gonna be
sitting on the bench in Cleveland for another year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I would just say if I'm one of the other
thirty one teams, I'm looking at almost any other quarterback,
including a forty six year old Philip Rivers, before I'm
looking at DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Getting crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Now, you know, I got getting crazy because I got
a last time DeShawn Watson was any good, Philip Rivers
was still quarterbacking in Indianapolis the first time I have.
But I get to pay him. I get to pay
him bottom barrel. So that's the big difference with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's fine, I'll go find it. I'll take my shot
that I can get a guy in the draft and
figure him out. Before I'm bringing to Shawn Watson into
my building.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Another guy who put up numbers like three four years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I was gonna say, Deshaun Watson, let's let's go back
and look at his stats really quick before we get
over to Steve Desager for one more final run for
the night. As we roll through, let's see in twenty
twenty twenty twenty forty eight hundred yards, thirty eight touchdown, no.
Thirty three touchdown, seven picks. That's sin Yeah, that's twenty twenty,
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that's the sixth. Then it's nineteen touchdowns against twelve picks,
and he's been unavailable I don't know because of suspensions
and then random injuries that seem to have taken a
long time to heat.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, it's Cleveland, so what can you do.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well, but if if a guy wants to play football,
he had every opportunity because that's been a barren wasteland
Bay Rogerickers Mackfield.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Baker Mayfield got better when he left Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, Baker Mayfield also then bounced to multiple places thereafter.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Oh, Carolina, the Rams, I understand that.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right. Remember there's a great group photo of him
and Sam Darnold in Carolina Panthers jersey smiling at each other.
Guess what neither one of them got to do? A
damn thing there. That was when you hired a guy
that was supposed to be a wizard as a coach.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
They went on, Yeah, better things for both of them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, Matt rule coach. You get Nebraska and I'll face
the Utah team that Winningham just left in the Las
Vegas Bowls. See what I did there, I brought it
off full circle? All right. Now, let's take a trip
to the news desk final time tonight with our guy,
Steve de Seger. Thanks for being with us here Steve
on a Friday night. Right back at you.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And by the way, as the NFL week continues, you know,
each NFL team playing on Christmas you may have seen
had the candy cane jersey patch like last year we
had white helmets with Dallas and Vikings with the all
white including white helmets their first non purple helmet and
franchise history. And then the Denver game yesterday all white
uniforms for the first time that included white helmets. There's
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an NFL rule change this past offseason. Teams can wear
an alternate helmet with the primary uniform set. So now
as we head on this Christmas weekend to Sunday, Buffalo's
gonna wear their red jerseys hosting the Eagles forty nine
Ers Sunday night will wear the red throwback jerseys against
the Bears. Monday night in Atlanta, the Falcons will wear
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the throwback red helmets against the Rams that Philadelphia Buffalo
game Sunday, the game on Fox TV. Bill's quarterback Josh
Allen is due to play despite a foot injury. He
practiced fully today. Buffalo kicker Matt Prater is still out
with a quad injury. There are two NFL games on Saturday,
Texans at Chargers, then Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback
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Jordan Love will not play Saturday night due to his concussion.
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson listed as doubtful with the bruise back.
The Raiders will not play defensive end Max Crosby Sunday
due to a knee injury. Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt
will miss another game after his lung injury, but linebacker
Nick Herbig returns. The Patriots say there's still a chance
(32:58):
running back Trevionson plays Sunday after his concussion last week,
but they do have two wide receivers out New England.
Michigan's new football coach and its official is Kyle Whittingham
from Utah, where he spent the last twenty one years.
Texas running back Quintrevion Wisner plans to enter the transfer portal,
as will James Madison, quarterback Alonza Barnett, and UNLV quarterback
(33:21):
Anthony Calandria. Three Bowl games on this Friday. The late
one in Dallas went to UC San Antonio, even though
it was down fourteen to nothing early. It led thirty
one fourteen at the half and fifty seven to twenty
UTSA the final against Florida International, which finishes seven and six.
Minnesota in overtime edge New Mexico twenty to seventeen in Phoenix.
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Northwestern beat Central Michigan in Detroit, thirty four to seven.
Central Michigan four turnovers in a span of twelve plays midgame.
Eight Bowl games on Saturday, including Penn State at Yankee
Stadium against Clemson and at Fenway Park, Yukon versus Army.
The University of Miami has its Cotton Bowl quarter final
New Year's Eve against number two Ohio State. In the
(34:07):
NBA late Game, we had a little bit of history tonight.
The Clippers wound up winning one nineteen to one to
oh three at Portland, thirty four points for James Harden,
thirty one for Brook Lopez, twenty eight points for Kawhi Leonard.
Never before in NBA history had a trio of teammates
aged thirty four or older each scored at least twenty
(34:28):
five points in the same game. And for Lopez, who
in the early days never attempted three pointers well from
three point range, tonight he was nine for fourteen.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Geez he Utah.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
The Jazz beat Detroit one thirty one one twenty nine.
Pistons had been twenty four and six this year, but
the game winner at Keante George with two seconds left.
He had thirty one points for Phoenix, thirty from Devin
Booker in a win at New Orleans, Memphis beat Milwaukee,
Miami won it Atlanta despite thirty points from Trey Young.
Chicago won its fifth straight one oh nine one oh
two over five Philadelphia with a ten to nothing run
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at the end. Philly and the loss got thirty one
points from Joel Embiid. Boston sent Indiana to a seventh
straight loss, one forty to one. Twenty two wins for
Washington and Charlotte, Austin Reeves of the Lakers out at
least one month with a calf injury, and Anthony Davis
of the MAVs due to miss a few games with
a strang groin.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Back to you, thanks, Steve. I had to break up
that Clipper box score. Arnie brook Lopez only took two
shots that were not three point attempts. He's tall if
I'm not mistaken, and usually that's the guy I want
near my basket.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And not from Europe.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And yet that's the NBA now doing his best to say, yeah,
Victor wayatt wembin Yama, this it's my next phase. Thanks
Steve and Steve de Saga at the news desk. Thanks
to Ian Roddy, our executive producer at Alex Ticher making
us sound so pretty over there is the Stinking Genius
himself at Stinking Genius One. It's Arnie Spaniard with you.
I'm Alver at Swollendome. As we wrap things up, couple
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that's afraid of dogs. I think I think the dog
thing has been overdone with this, but so be it
get you through the night. And I'm sure you have
a pick or two, uh in one or two last
minute rants that you've got. We'll do that all as
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As we go into this final phase here, Arnie, we've
got a new coach at Michigan. Yes, the well long
(02:02):
short search depending on who you believe in terms of
this timeline and the little bits and pieces that have
dribbled out over the last couple of weeks, the firing
as Sharon Moore back on December tenth. December twelfth, Winningham,
the new coach, left Utah saying I'm entering the transfer portal,
not I'm retiring.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Why did it take so long for them to hire him?
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Though?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, I think you're doing your due diligence to a degree. Right,
you're trying to see what else when you pick up
another rock is underneath it.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
Like the boards.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I mean, was that really a possibility had he lost
that game?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well? Not just coaches though, aren't he? I mean, you're
also if you're winning him, you're asking a lot of questions.
So I don't know how long he'd been talking to them. Obviously,
Scally was named the coach in waiting going back to
last season before they entered.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I thought he left Utah to take that Michigan John.
Speaker 5 (02:56):
I thought all along, that's that's what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
But certainly that is part of the speculation, right when
how who? What? Why? Where? But part of it was
at some point for the university, you might lose your
coach in waiting because they get tired of waiting.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
In this case, it was only a year. But we've
seen that in a number of circumstances where you've had
a guy waiting around, going this guy's never gonna leave,
is he? He likes it here, and then the assistant
goes and takes a job somewhere else. We've seen it
in basketball, we've seen it in football, and it's happened before,
but here with Utah, you're also talking about a change
(03:35):
where you're bringing in this other money initiative in terms
of how things are going to be funded and run
going forward. That maybe winning him looking at the landscape
wasn't too keen on. So there's a lot of moving parts,
but certainly the more firing followed by his entering the portal. Sure,
the timing says, okay, this was in the offing, but
(03:56):
in terms of announcing it, I gotta imagine on winning
side now, there's no hint of scandal for him, nothing
in his past. Right. The word that showed up most
in any write ups I've seen is integrity keeps being
brought up.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But yeah, by the way, you keep saying that you know,
or people keep saying that he wasn't gonna have a
chance to win it Utah like Ukenna Michigan. Is it
Utah or BYU? I thought maybe it was BYU that
gets a lot of money, was it from the hotel
chains and stuff like that. They they they get big
time money that gets donated to them for nil, So
(04:33):
I'm not so sure.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
That that's on the same page. They do get a
lot of money.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Well, yeah, BYU's got it. You know, a bunch of
corporate sponsorships and other things. When we talk about the
Utah side of things, there was a private equity company
that was coming in, and that gets very complicated and
kind of weirds people out because it's the new iteration, right,
the business of college sports as opposed to you know,
(04:58):
once upon a time people bury their head in the
and said, isn't it all golly g everybody's just playing
for the love of the game, which we knew was
garbage for decades. Right, people were getting paid satchels of
cash were being passed under the table and smiled, and
we just kept moving on.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
That happened all the time. We just never said anything.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, but that's it. It was the dirty underside to
it all, and we move on. And now you have
one after another people that are no longer associated with
a school going, oh yeah, we used to do this
all the time, or talk about the middlemen that were used.
Some try to do the plausible deniability. I didn't have
any idea because you had fifteen middlemen, so you might
(05:37):
have ordered a very nebulous code read and how it
got executed did matter as long as the guy was
there for practice and for the weight training sessions each week.
But where we're at with Winningham is I think partially
on his side. One, You're trying to negotiate and see
how desperate Michigan is to have you, because you had
a lot of other names passed through, some current coaches,
(06:00):
some former coaches, debor you mentioned him. Well, if the
Alabama had lost, might that have put the machine in motion? Maybe?
We certainly saw Brahm's name out there. We saw so
many fish jed fish right after after there.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
He wasn't gonna get the job because he's a Michigan
guy though, right.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, but that but that begs it. Well. But but
I ask you, and I put this out as a
if I'm the board of trustees and I'm looking at
what we've had at Michigan the last couple of years,
and yes, you've got a national title that's not being
taken away. But in the aftermath, you had suspensions, right,
(06:41):
Sharon Moore missed multiple games, You had a lot of
people looking around the program. And the Sharon Moore situation
that is currently going on, uh seem seemingly, or at
least for the most part, is a private private issue
and an institutional issue when you start talking about the
job and the pay raise and.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
All that, how does that end for him?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
By the way, Well, he's gonna end up in jail
based on the charges. But even if he doesn't, like
you know, folks were making the equivalents of well, this
guy got caught in an affair of that and he
got a new job. He didn't put a knife to
anybody's neck, right, And you're right about that, Sharon Moore
did all right. That is on the record, that is
not disputed. So all of that to say, when when
(07:25):
we look at the last couple of weeks, if I'm
winning him and I'm the that team, like, all right,
what else is under there? Right? What else is coming
down the python? Does the NC double A or the
last vestiges? Is there anything where they get involved again
to where there might need to be more sanctions that
hamper what I'm going to try to build for you.
If not, your point about the Michigan Man, which is
(07:48):
something I brought up earlier in the show, is really
I think where you want to go, you don't want
a guy that's tied to what's gone on these last
couple of years even though there's a bunch of wins
in the harborire. I'm young enough to remember or old
enough to remember, depending on your perspective, that when people
were trying to call for Jim Harbaugh's head, it's like
your team hasn't been relevant in three years and with
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one or two outliers of Lloyd Carr was what three
decades ago, It's like otherwise, you've been a middling team
for a long time. So a guy winning eight nine
games a year is pretty damn good. And then he
goes and gets your title.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And there's plenty of Michigan men also, they're just not
the head coach. They're all the nil guy, you know
what I mean. Well, but that now they're coming to
the they come out of the woodworks. They donate money,
like the Tom Brady's that got Underwood to go to
school there, Like Troy Aikman was telling his story about
how he gave money and didn't get a thank you.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Now it's Troy Aikman the guy that becomes Because I
love films. We've heard the Colin Coward promo where he's
bringing up pulp fiction. Let me go to another Tarantino movie. Yeah,
Troy Aikman, the former athlete who cut the big check,
however big it was, and said, I didn't get a
thank you. I'm done with nil. Is he the mister
pink of nil donors? And everybody out there's laughing. Y'all
(09:07):
remember the restaurant scene where he makes the pitch against
tipping and then finally you got Chris, But you know what,
I want my dollar back. Maybe Troy Aikman starts a
trend where you got former athletes, it's the business owners
to go, yeah, I didn't get a thank you either,
and I translate to win, So screw that. I'm done.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
I read something where the kids don't know where the
money comes from, so they couldn't thank him anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Well, but I understand that on a one to one basis.
It still seems to me that if you're UCLA or
insert your own school here, when you've got a guy
of that level of prominence, a Hall of Famer multiple
times in the Super Bowl, number one, pick all of
that stuff, someone's probably telling you to take five seconds
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to sign a greeting card that goes out to a
group of donors and collect if that helped you out here,
record a message saying thank you for the financial inducement
to get you to sign on the dotted line and
become a member of the UCLA program. Even if you
have some voiceover actor, say Troy, that you would get
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something in the mail to say thank you for the
millions of dollars or fifty cents whatever you gave to
help to that contracy.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
Give to Northwestern, right.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I give them a couple of bucks every year. I
designated more for the academic the library side.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
Oh yes, I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
No, No, there's plenty. Look, there's plenty of guys. I mean
you could see them in and I'm not going to
name them here because sometimes they do us harm in
terms of the Northwestern brand when they associate themselves with it.
And I'll let you all speculate who they are because
he went to the same school, is that guy? Like, yeah,
I did anyway, But it's it's the kind of things
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like they've got plenty of money there. My thing is
to keep the institution as a whole doing its thing,
and they've got a huge endowment. So my extra couple
of cents probably goes towards watering a flower on the
fourth floor. But all of that to say that if
you are cutting a big check, I don't think it
takes much from a collective to have someone in the
secretarial pool or administrative assistant or whatever the job title
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is the student helper to print out a bunch of
cards and take them to the requisite three people to
have them sign. Hey, Bryce, I need you in here.
Like at Michigan, Bryce, I need you in here for
a half hour. You're gonna need to sign a few
cards to people that donated. Okay, for a couple million bucks,
that's the least you can do.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
But my thing is this, why do they even need
a couple of bites?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Do you know what?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Like you brought up a good point. What was Michigan endowment?
How much money you think that school has?
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Well, but that's that's different though. I mean that that sits.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
It's valued to like twenty billion billion.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Dollars, But it's not. It's not that, hey, we can
start siphoning off to pay off a couple of college
football players.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Well, the idea somebody's there for spending for improvement.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
But generally, again it becomes the board of trustees deciding
how because that each one of those covenants is going
to be written differently as to how that money can
be used.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
I understand that like a picky.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Bank of hey, we want a new quarterback that the
other is not shiny enough for us, so we need
to go no, no, Hey, we had an earthquake and
a bunch of our buildings got ruined. We need to
and insurance is only covering so much as to what
we want to rebuild, bigger, faster, struggle.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
But athletes, athletes probably are the biggest donors to a university.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
I would assume, Oh, I don't know that.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh I think, I think, I think there might be.
It depends on the institution, you know, and what you
got out of it, and depending Uh. Yeah, I wouldn't
go quite that far. But but certainly in this particular case,
as we're talking about the Troy Aikman, a little viral
ra that getting someone to send a thank you card
(13:04):
doesn't seem like too tough a business and bad job
by everybody at UCLA. Of course, they'd already shown and
demonstrated on multiple occasions they don't know what the hell
they're doing in many regards.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Do you think Whittingham is somehow gets Underwood to come
back to Michigan or is that bridge already burned?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
No, I think look it's he might be burned and
singed a little bit by.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I think he's gone because I think he wants I
don't think he's happy with the way he played. I
think he's looking to go to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Well, the potential is there, but where's he going in
the SEC?
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Well?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I do like that, yeah, but if that doesn't work, okay, So.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
I'm sure there's plenty of schools I would love to have.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
I'm not saying that you wouldn't take the shot, but
do you already have your guy in place? As the
portal starts on January second? Which is why as you've
got this Winningham was heading down to Florida, where their
Michigan's is in preparation for the Citters Bowl against Texas,
to go meet the family's glad hand and try to
keep as many of his would be returning twenty two
(14:07):
out of the portal.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I guess he's not going to bring a lot of
Utah players with him.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I guess, well, it remains to be seen.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Right, it was a quote about that, I thought, sure,
but what.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Is said in what happens in practice? Because I'm sure
a lot of those guys with the fact that it
is a transition. Well sure, but there's also the fact
that there is a transition to someone who's been in
house in scaley, who's been at the program, so they
know what they're dealing with. Right. It's not a wild
card coach coming in as you might have another situation.
(14:38):
Doesn't mean that the guy who's the coordinator and position
coach is anywhere near the same once he's the top guy.
We've seen that hundreds, if not thousands of times, and.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
Now we handles the Ohio state rivalry because it's not
like Utahn BYU, even though that's a pretty big rivalry,
also is on the same scale.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
No, I think some of it is you're blessed to
uh to know what you don't know. It's huge, but
until you're in it. And the other thing is he's
not a kid, right we thought, but we thought and
some folks have taken it as a negative. I don't
think they're looking for a twenty year coach. I think
they're looking for a guy to get them out of
the crap they've dealt with these last couple of years,
(15:19):
the bad headlines. They've won a lot of football games.
They were nine and three this year.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Rightly, you know who Signetti looks like, don't you win?
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Actor?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
He's like a beagless actor that was in an old
sitcom with Tom Hanks Buddies.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
You're going to Peter Scalari. Yeah, he goes say Peter
on the Bottom Newhart Show.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Come on, Does he not look like that at that?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (15:42):
Yeah, I win.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
But but I think it's that same thing if like,
Signetti might only be there for a couple of years,
but he's infectious in terms of all right, this is
what we're gonna do. We're gonna go and we're gonna
play our best football. We're gonna kick people in the
teeth and let the chips fall with You've got a
guy with a great track record, all the history that
you have, and you're trying to stabilize your university after
(16:08):
several years of scandal and questions and and even now
right Sharon Moore, there were there were the recruiting issues
that he had to deal with.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And I don't think he'll have recruiting problems at all.
I think he'll do fine.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
No, no, but it's but it's about cleaning out the guards,
which is why having a non Michigan man is great.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Yeah, you may.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
You're probably right on not having a non Michigan man.
I think he'll keep more in house players than first
expected if they named another coach.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
No, that's it, I would agree. And whether he brings
a bunch of players with him or not, he's certainly
not going in like Deon Sanders did at Colorado.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
You remember you got the portal though that that's always
good enough to fillip houls.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Yeah. Yeah, but he's not walking in and threatening guys.
You should pack your bags. You I didn't like that.
I'm breaking my guys. Hey you're okay. Nah, you're cut too.
You know that kind of thing. Yeah, we're not gonna
have that. But I think the longevity of it and
what he has is he brings reputation and a history
that you say, okay for now, this is gonna stabilize,
(17:08):
whether it's two years, four years, however long he's gonna coach.
But the track record is also classic, as we talked
with Pete Futech earlier in the show, classic Big ten
of we're gonna play tough nose football. We're gonna run
the ball and play defense, which plays well at Michigan
and in the Big ten.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
You know, just one little side note, I finally think
that would Michigan Ohio State and with that great hire
by Michigan State with Fitzgerald, I think we're gonna have
some great football with that.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Three little you know rivalry there. I think it's gonna
be awesome.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And that's probably the last time Michigan will play Notre
Dame ever, the last time that they played. There's your
joke for the day.
Speaker 5 (17:49):
Yeah, why is that.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Well, they'll try to get them off the boards. Yeah,
and won't schedule them either at stick and Genius one
is where you find him. Find me over at the
Swollen Dome. As we continue here, it's a beautiful Friday
night into Saturday morning. Fox Sports Radio. Let's turn our
attention back to Baltimore. We talked about it a little
bit with Jason Cole. You seem to be very resolute
(18:13):
that maybe their current quarterback in Baltimore is gonna be
wearing teal or at least another uniform. Perhaps not. We'll
talk about it next here it's Fox Sports Radio. Paully
Foods go ahead with Tony foodsco. Yeah, as everybody knows,
we're the hosts of the award winning Polly and Tony
Foodsco Show.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
Yeah, but instead of us telling you how great we are,
here's how Dan Packrick described us when he came on
our show.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
What what are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, you wasn't
talking about you. You took those clips totally out of context.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Shut up.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
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Speaker 3 (19:14):
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Me Mike Harmon, No Jason Tonight, Arnie Spaniard in instead
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O n Assist dot com. So Arnie, the Baltimore Ravens
find themselves standing at the crossroads. I don't know if
Steve Buie's there with a guitar and Ralph Macchio is
(19:57):
gonna show up, but we'll see on set night as
they get ready for a big showdown against the Green
Bay Packers. Both teams coming at it with their backup quarterbacks.
Malik Willis for the Packers against Snoop Hunley. I watched
Snoop Punley beat the Bears when I traveled to Baltimore
a few weeks ago. Is Lamar Jackson missed a couple
(20:19):
of games and now he's back out. The large contusion
is what it was put up. We talked about it
briefly yesterday, obliquely a little the column that was up
in the Baltimore Sun talking about video games, late nights,
changing practice schedules, all of those things, and the question
of Lamar Jackson as you look ahead, whether he remains
(20:43):
a member of the Baltimore Ravens. We talked to Jason
Cole earlier who was convinced look better at comber Heads
will prevail. It's a tough season they've run through. Certainly
Mark Andrews is going back to last year in the playoffs,
and certainly even this last week that would be lateral
that he attempted as he was being tackled ranked among
(21:05):
the dumber things I've ever seen for a guy that
they just paid a truckload of money to right. Decision
making is part of that equation, isn't it. Yeah, So
either way, disastrous last week and now you turn your
attention ahead to this week. Lots swirling. This article very
skating about where Lamar Jackson is as a professional.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you that story
came from somewhere, So I feel like there's somewhat a
little bit of truth in that, whether they really moved
the practices or what. He's not played his best ball
the last couple of years.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
He's been hurt.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Why is he not suiting up? Some people think that
he's healthy enough to get out there, but he just
doesn't want to play These last couple of games. Now,
that's a serious accusation. You make it, we'll see how
it works out. Look, there's no doubt in my mind
that he's played his last couple of games in Baltimore.
Was that a true quote that said, Hey, if they
(22:03):
don't want me here and I'll move on, I love
to play in Miami.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Not that I would want him in Miami, But.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Did you write that quote?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Being serious, you can tell that he already has the
mindset that he's not coming back next year. I think
Baltimore is going to move on without him, And I
know Jason said, well, cooler heads will prevail. I don't
think that's happening here. I think he's good as gone.
If I was going to play some bet down, Mike,
I'm betting that he's not.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
Coming back to the Ravens at all next year.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think a lot of our listeners would probably agree
with me.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Well, part of what was in that Baltimore's son was
purely speculative of they should look at a trade which
would let them two or three first round picks. Jackson
would love to play in Miami, where two is no
longer the starter. Well, A don't know that. I'm like
I'm just saying I love Miami well, but that's not
(22:53):
coming from Lamar Jackson, is the point I'm making. That's
purely speculative, a that he wants out of Baltimore and
be that Miami would be the place he'd be choosing
to go again. I've been to Miami once for a
Super Bowl week. It was a miserable experience because I
spent most of my time on that Causeway trying to
go and cover events. But that's either here or there.
(23:14):
I did find a couple hole in the wall Cuban
food places which were among the most hospitable and delightful
experiences of people and culture and just kind of welcoming
that I've ever had in these Greater United States in
my travels. But oh, that's same for Lamar Jackson. You know,
(23:34):
the injuries do pile up, and I wonder if we
haven't also hit a weird space in our sporting universe.
And let me explain. He started sixteen games going back
in twenty eighteen, right, well, he appeared in sixteen games,
and then he's appeared as the starter since taking over
for Flacco all those years ago, one hundred and seventy
(23:57):
attempts that year included in the one hundred and forty
seven carries. This is year eight of his career. Historically,
isn't this where quarterbacks usually went to die and got
put out to past year?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
They certainly don't keep running the way he does.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know what I mean. But that's but just in general,
like the fact that we've had the Brady's and the
Breeze and Manning brothers and whatever else, they're kind of
outlied of Philip Rivers and his forty five year old
self at this point. But those guys are the outliers.
I remember doing you know, the fantasy analysis, like, well,
the last three years there are a handful of guys
(24:33):
that survived every game, and then you'd have the journeyman.
But in terms of longevity as an unquestioned starter to
when we get to year eight, and certainly his style
has adapted a bit. His completion percentages down three percent
this year, and to this point he's only rushed the
ball sixty three times, which is fewer than half.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Right that his fault that Derek, you know that the
fubbles all over the place too.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
No, but that but that's the larger point to all
of this. Some of that is correctable. John Harball. Folks
want him out. It's the old rule of thumb. If
you're gonna fire him, who's next. I've seen him for
Tom firing him.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm certainly not bringing back Lamar.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
You're not You're not bringing back a lock.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
I'm not bringing back Lamar no matter what. All right,
that's if I'm calling.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
If I'm calling the shots in Baltimore, it's time for
me to move on out.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It's too much.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
I just won two MVPs and narrowly missing.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
And thank you for for your service. It's time to
move on out. It's there's too much bad water under
the bridge right now. I don't think it could be fixed.
That's why stories like this leak. I think Baltimore fans
want him gone. To be honest, honest with you and
ready to try something else.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's the problem with this society. You're one of those
guys that goes to the store and buys something and says, hey,
if it lasts me three weeks, I got my Money's
said eight years now, right, But it's not like you've
had a decided drop off in his play. Yeah, it's
changed a little bit.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Off in this play. I've had injuries in this place.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Well, the injuries are are certainly a thing that you
consider as you go forward, there's no question about it.
But it also becomes the replacement cost. What in the
marketplace are you getting that's anywhere near Lamar Jackson when
he's eighty percent healthy, let alone one hundred?
Speaker 7 (26:25):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:26):
Am I getting it?
Speaker 3 (26:27):
How about I go find another wide receiver? How about
you go find like This is where it also falls
back on some of the management kind of like we
were talking about with the Lakers, is like you got
a plan for that to have a deeper rotation and
a deeper degree of depth. I love DeAndre Hopkins seven
years ago when he was running around right, right, right right.
Zay Flowers is a good player. Is he at number one? No?
(26:50):
And Mark Andrews you paid him top been money and
he's good at times, But boy, is decision making in
big game moments certainly haven't been there. And we could
say that about Lamar to a degree. But you're running
out and wishing and hoping that with duct tape and
bandages that Ronnie Stanley's gonna be there on the offensive line,
and when he is, and it goes to hell. John
(27:10):
Harbon needs to look in the mirror. I still I
wonder how many people there on Saturday are holding up
signs that just say twelve to fifty three like they
used to have the John three sixteen or Austin three
sixteen at wrestling shows. Twelve fifty three. Derrek Henry didn't
see the ball in the fourth quarter, the final twelve minutes,
three second when he had run for one hundred and
(27:33):
twenty eight yards and two scores.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
By the way Spaccoli sends in that says, I agree
with the stick of genius a million percent. Lamar keeps
getting injured when the Ravens need him the most. I
think he wants Harbor fired and or out of Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Potential is there, right, And certainly I don't dismiss it.
It just becomes the when we get one report, that
means one guy talking on a bad day, right, and
maybe the practice if the practice schedule had changed because
of him, there's way too many people that would have
needed to keep that a secret. That's a lot of
(28:11):
no no, but that's a lot of people affected. If
if they knew, if if any of them got win,
that it was because Lamar was up playing video games
till the middle of the night.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Well, I got to assume if he is playing, he's
playing with a teammate or or something, or.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Maybe he just play instances himself and goes online. And
could he's out there hanging out. Maybe he's playing Kyler Murray.
See how he gets just dragged in here because it's
a video gamest NFL QB or something NFL QB eight. Yeah, no,
either way, It again goes back to our larger conversation
of the quarterback position and where there's such a decided
(28:50):
drop off because even if he's not Lamar Jackson won
one A with Josh Allen at the top of the board,
figure out where you want Joe Burb and those guys
in the mix, He's still in that elite category.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yes, yes, but I mean all these quarterbacks, you know,
the Kyler Murray's, the two is the Lamar Jackson's DeShawn Watson's.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
They gotta go play somewhere.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
You're trying to push to Shawn Watson. You're getting a cut.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
No, but he's not gonna You think he's gonna be
sitting on the bench in Cleveland for another year.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
I would just say if I'm one of the other
thirty one teams, I'm looking at almost any other quarterback,
including a forty six year old Philip Rivers, before I'm
looking at DeShawn Watson.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Getting crazy.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Now, you know, I got getting crazy because I got
a last time DeShawn Watson was any good, Philip Rivers
was still quarterbacking in Indianapolis the first time I have.
But I get to pay him. I get to pay
him bottom barrel. So that's the big difference with Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
That's fine, I'll go find it. I'll take my shot
that I can get a guy in the draft and
figure him out. Before I'm bringing to Shawn Watson into
my building.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Another guy who put up numbers like three four years ago.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I was gonna say, Deshaun Watson, let's let's go back
and look at his stats really quick before we get
over to Steve Desager for one more final run for
the night. As we roll through, let's see in twenty
twenty twenty twenty forty eight hundred yards, thirty eight touchdown, no.
Thirty three touchdown, seven picks. That's sin Yeah, that's twenty twenty,
(30:26):
that's the sixth. Then it's nineteen touchdowns against twelve picks,
and he's been unavailable I don't know because of suspensions
and then random injuries that seem to have taken a
long time to heat.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
Well, it's Cleveland, so what can you do.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Well, but if if a guy wants to play football,
he had every opportunity because that's been a barren wasteland
Bay Rogerickers Mackfield.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Baker Mayfield got better when he left Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Well, Baker Mayfield also then bounced to multiple places thereafter.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Oh, Carolina, the Rams, I understand that.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
All right. Remember there's a great group photo of him
and Sam Darnold in Carolina Panthers jersey smiling at each other.
Guess what neither one of them got to do? A
damn thing there. That was when you hired a guy
that was supposed to be a wizard as a coach.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
They went on, Yeah, better things for both of them.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Yeah, Matt rule coach. You get Nebraska and I'll face
the Utah team that Winningham just left in the Las
Vegas Bowls. See what I did there, I brought it
off full circle? All right. Now, let's take a trip
to the news desk final time tonight with our guy,
Steve de Seger. Thanks for being with us here Steve
on a Friday night. Right back at you.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
And by the way, as the NFL week continues, you know,
each NFL team playing on Christmas you may have seen
had the candy cane jersey patch like last year we
had white helmets with Dallas and Vikings with the all
white including white helmets their first non purple helmet and
franchise history. And then the Denver game yesterday all white
uniforms for the first time that included white helmets. There's
(31:56):
an NFL rule change this past offseason. Teams can wear
an alternate helmet with the primary uniform set. So now
as we head on this Christmas weekend to Sunday, Buffalo's
gonna wear their red jerseys hosting the Eagles forty nine
Ers Sunday night will wear the red throwback jerseys against
the Bears. Monday night in Atlanta, the Falcons will wear
(32:16):
the throwback red helmets against the Rams that Philadelphia Buffalo
game Sunday, the game on Fox TV. Bill's quarterback Josh
Allen is due to play despite a foot injury. He
practiced fully today. Buffalo kicker Matt Prater is still out
with a quad injury. There are two NFL games on Saturday,
Texans at Chargers, then Ravens at Packers. Green Bay quarterback
(32:38):
Jordan Love will not play Saturday night due to his concussion.
Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson listed as doubtful with the bruise back.
The Raiders will not play defensive end Max Crosby Sunday
due to a knee injury. Steelers pass rusher TJ. Watt
will miss another game after his lung injury, but linebacker
Nick Herbig returns. The Patriots say there's still a chance
(32:58):
running back Trevionson plays Sunday after his concussion last week,
but they do have two wide receivers out New England.
Michigan's new football coach and its official is Kyle Whittingham
from Utah, where he spent the last twenty one years.
Texas running back Quintrevion Wisner plans to enter the transfer portal,
as will James Madison, quarterback Alonza Barnett, and UNLV quarterback
(33:21):
Anthony Calandria. Three Bowl games on this Friday. The late
one in Dallas went to UC San Antonio, even though
it was down fourteen to nothing early. It led thirty
one fourteen at the half and fifty seven to twenty
UTSA the final against Florida International, which finishes seven and six.
Minnesota in overtime edge New Mexico twenty to seventeen in Phoenix.
(33:43):
Northwestern beat Central Michigan in Detroit, thirty four to seven.
Central Michigan four turnovers in a span of twelve plays midgame.
Eight Bowl games on Saturday, including Penn State at Yankee
Stadium against Clemson and at Fenway Park, Yukon versus Army.
The University of Miami has its Cotton Bowl quarter final
New Year's Eve against number two Ohio State. In the
(34:07):
NBA late Game, we had a little bit of history tonight.
The Clippers wound up winning one nineteen to one to
oh three at Portland, thirty four points for James Harden,
thirty one for Brook Lopez, twenty eight points for Kawhi Leonard.
Never before in NBA history had a trio of teammates
aged thirty four or older each scored at least twenty
(34:28):
five points in the same game. And for Lopez, who
in the early days never attempted three pointers well from
three point range, tonight he was nine for fourteen.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
Geez he Utah.
Speaker 7 (34:39):
The Jazz beat Detroit one thirty one one twenty nine.
Pistons had been twenty four and six this year, but
the game winner at Keante George with two seconds left.
He had thirty one points for Phoenix, thirty from Devin
Booker in a win at New Orleans, Memphis beat Milwaukee,
Miami won it Atlanta despite thirty points from Trey Young.
Chicago won its fifth straight one oh nine one oh
two over five Philadelphia with a ten to nothing run
(35:01):
at the end. Philly and the loss got thirty one
points from Joel Embiid. Boston sent Indiana to a seventh
straight loss, one forty to one. Twenty two wins for
Washington and Charlotte, Austin Reeves of the Lakers out at
least one month with a calf injury, and Anthony Davis
of the MAVs due to miss a few games with
a strang groin.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Back to you, thanks, Steve. I had to break up
that Clipper box score. Arnie brook Lopez only took two
shots that were not three point attempts. He's tall if
I'm not mistaken, and usually that's the guy I want
near my basket.
Speaker 2 (35:32):
And not from Europe.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
And yet that's the NBA now doing his best to say, yeah,
Victor wayatt wembin Yama, this it's my next phase. Thanks
Steve and Steve de Saga at the news desk. Thanks
to Ian Roddy, our executive producer at Alex Ticher making
us sound so pretty over there is the Stinking Genius
himself at Stinking Genius One. It's Arnie Spaniard with you.
I'm Alver at Swollendome. As we wrap things up, couple
(35:56):
of fun stories to revisit. Evidently there's an NFL quarterback
that's afraid of dogs. I think I think the dog
thing has been overdone with this, but so be it
get you through the night. And I'm sure you have
a pick or two, uh in one or two last
minute rants that you've got. We'll do that all as
we wrap up shop here on a beautiful Friday night
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