October 21, 2025 • 53 mins
It's Fox Sports Radio's official fantasy football podcast! Dan Beyer and Mike Harmon open the show with their immediate thoughts and reactions following this week's Monday Night Football doubleheader! Has Jahmyr Gibbs finally claimed the Lions full lead back role, or should we expect to see Montgomery eat into more of his touches going forward? Is Jaxon Smith-Njigba a top-five receiver in football? Why won't Seattle give the ball to Ken Walker more? The guys then move into the rest of Week 7, going through their biggest team/player-specific, along with league-wide takeaways. Plus, Mike shares his top waiver wire adds of the week as several teams head into a bye.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ex hal Week seven is finally over. Oh my goodness.
Was that the longest week ever?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean seriously, I know we had the double header
on Monday night, but Bengals Steelers seems like it was
nineteen days ago because we've had the craziness of the
Alcs going on and this doubleheader hit. Mike up at
Swollen Dolm. You can find me at Dan Byer on
Foxy and Roddy's the executive producer. Find him at Ian
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
I know the Seahawks and Texans win three and a
half hours on Monday night. Oh my goodness. It was
a long Week seven, But it's.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
It go back to that Thursday night game which never
ended because I mean, we and we're glad it didn't
because them in sixty four points two old guys getting
after it. Some of the fantasy guys that we've been
waiting for at least showed up. Whether they were in
your lineup or not, I can't tell you. I mean
we talked about Chase Brown of all right, he's got
to be a back end too. But you're wishing and
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hoping that something big comes out of it, and it did.
And then you add the game overseas to start a Sunday,
so you add an extra three hours of viewing window.
So all of that, plus the league championship series and
whatever else you got going on on your weekend. That
was a very very long week. And then Monday night
football just wouldn't end a very odd start to it.
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The way the Buccaneers played and Baker Mayfield, I mean,
he was one of thirteen on passes of at least
fifteen yards, and several of those tees Johnson or who
whoever the target was was wide open, like passes he
hasn't missed since he was hanging out with the Cleveland
Browns and maybe standing on the sidelines with the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Still don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But all of that to say, the final whistle finally
sounded on the Seattle in Houston game and then exhaled,
and I know you did, Dan and Ian working with
us this evening or Monday evening at Fox Sports Radio,
and it was just kind of like, huh, that was
a game. I don't know what to take from it,
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but that was a game.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, it was neither team wanted to win. Like the
Texans couldn't do anything offensively. Seattle was giving every opportunity
for the Texans to get back into the ballgame, you feel.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I know, Mike, you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Guys talked about the kickoff that Jamiko Ryans and the
Texans chose to kick and play, which was a bit
of a recap from Week one between the Vikings and Bears.
But I also look at that play and about nine
others in that game of just coaching staffs that we love.
We love what Demiko Ryans is doing with the Texans defense,
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we love what Mike McDonald is doing with the Seahawks defense.
But my goodness, what they're doing offensively or what they're
not doing offensively just has.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
My mind blown.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Because the Seahawks are supposed to be one of the
better teams in the NFL, and nowither of these teams
could get out of their own way on Monday night.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Situationally, they are just I don't know how many games.
You know, if you sit down and you start charting
it and making notes, you drive yourself insane, going okay.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Why how?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you wish you were in the locker room to
at least be able to stare down the player or
the coach to ask the question the thing with the
final final possession. For those that didn't watch that, and
you know, maybe you're lucky you didn't watch in parts
because maybe you're infuriated like we are.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I mean, Dan, you're.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Invested because of the team. For me, I'm just wanting it,
just going okay, we're on air and Smith and I
are are breaking us down. I'm like, okay, you've got
one time out in the two minute warning and you
kick it to where it's returnable, like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
And then so many decisions.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Then you have the officiating gets involved with a bunch
of stuff and just it becomes this amalgam and it's
fortunate and unfortunate. I don't have the benefit of the
analysis that's going on on TV, right, I can only
go with what I see and then eventually try to
catch up through the powers of the interwebs and whatever.
But to your point, yeah, I mean Seattle should have
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won this game by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, there were nine possessions in the fourth quarter. Run
the ball, and I think that's my point. I'm not
gonna And if you're a loyal listening to the podcast,
you know I'm a Seahawks fan. You know Ian's a
Jets fan, you know Mike's a Bears fan. I'm not
going to boil you for ten minutes to talk about
the Seahawks. But they needed to run the football, which
they can't do. And that leads me to a fantasy
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point right now is Kenneth Walker has become dart near invisible.
He is almost to the point where he is unplayable, Mike,
because Sharvon is not getting all the goal line carries.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, that's just it, right, You're still getting a decent
touched count some weeks, but then you got other weeks
that are disappearing acts, and you've got a forced game
streak without a touchdown and sharbon A coming in at
the goal line it's the worst worst site in the
world seeing him checking in.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They aren't built to run the football, and I think
it's it's pretty clear and it's the Texans are a
good defense, There's there's no doubt about that. But unless
you're getting a weak matchup at some point, I just
I don't I.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Don't see the ground game.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Despite how some of the uh the analysts in the
game felt that Seattle was was great on both they're
good on both sides of the ball. I just I
don't think that they can they can run the ball
right now. There's also not a commitment to it. And
like it's like it's a different problem with the Texans,
who just don't have guys. What he marks doesn't seem
like he's up to it yet. He had the one
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flash game against the Titans. Nick Chubb's day better days
are behind him. They just don't have anybody in Houston
to go along with an awful offensive line. The Seahawks
at least have two guys, but I don't know if
they can really do anything with them. And now, if
you're trying to choose, I mean, I guess you're playing
charbon ay, But for where you drafted Kenneth Walker at
this point. My goodness, it's frustrating to watch the how
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things at least unfolded in Seattle on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Dan, I would say, especially because Kenneth Walker is running well,
like when you actually see him touch the ball, and
the few chances that he does get he looks better
than Sharbon it does. That's why it's so frustrating to
see Sharbone come onto the field as soon as they
get into the red zone thanks to Walker.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, and he's not a threat out of the backfield
to catch the football right, very few opportunities as well.
So yeah, so I can understand. I can understand, which
which then kind of leads me to this point about
night with the Buccaneers. Now, Mike Evans is done right
for the you know, pretty much for the rest of
your fantasy regular season.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
The streak ends.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, these streak ends, And now what happens with the Buccaneers.
Are we going back to the Bucky Irving when he
gets healthy? Rashad White two headed Monster? Is it just
all the Amecca Buca show? Is it the arrival of
tedz Johnson after the great play that he had on
Monday night and what he did the week prior. Like
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I with Mike Evans out, that's a big, big gap
people are gonna have to fill in their lineup.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Give a big shout to the back seven of Detroit
because here's a couple of stat lines from the receiving
core of the Buccaneers. Sterling Shepherd seven catches, seven catches, great,
twenty five yards Rashad White out of the back field.
We know he's a threat, Okay, cool, he can pick
up a little bit where Bucky Irving normally would do
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some damage. Four catches six yards. Oh, I mean you
got your PPR gold, So you got that. But they
couldn't run the ball. Ten carries thirty eight yards for White.
Tucker had the one carry, but Kate Otton And look
the interception really isn't that always tied goes to the
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runner or to the offense. Now we're going to decide, well,
he's got a higher percentage of the ball.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But either way, seven cadges sixty five yards for him.
Like I said, Baker was hearing footsteps and he certainly
had plenty of pressure on him over the course of
the night in Detroit. With a great job getting after him,
but open throws. There was one on a crosser to
Johnson that should have been an easy touchdown to make
it a one score game, and he just overshot him
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by a good eat to ten yards. He came free
and clear across the coverage, but just couldn't get the
timing down. And this is even with a Buka back, right,
So Evans goes down, but you at least had a
booka available twelve tard gets, so certainly no limitations.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and just four catches on the night for a BUCA.
That's gonna be an interesting spot to look forward. I
think that Buka's value obviously will increase. Hopefully he gets
fully healthy at some point. They got another game against
the Saints next week and then they have their buy,
so they'll hopefully be able to rest up at that point.
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But I'm also curious to see what happens with Baker
a little bit because he had been fine with Evans
out of the lineup, and so now you have a
prolonged absence and we'll just see if they can continue
to roll. What other point from that game in Detroit
on Monday night, And Mike, again, you may have been
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on the air when this was said or prepping in
a studio where there wasn't sound, but there was a
comment made about how the Lions offensive coordinator John Morton
was saying, Yeah, we hear you about David Montgomery, and
you know, we're trying to feed the ball to everybody.
There's a lot of a lot of guys to get
the football too. And when you see what jimyr Gibbs
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did tonight, and you see what David Montgomery did tonight,
I mean, how are we still holding out hope? Do
we still look back at what Montgomery did against the Ravens.
Is this just a one off or or are they
telling us something without actually telling us something?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
In Detroit?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why you keep feeding in
the ball, right, You've had the one game, solid game
against Cincinnati, so you're looking at bottom feeders in THEAF.
No disrespect to Joe Flacco. He's elite and all and
may ride and they may rise from the depths in
a bad division. But I mean his two games where
he flashed were Cincinnati and Baltimore. Chicago's an outlier because
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all they did was wanted to take them to the woodsheds.
So I pushed that otherwise you're looking at twenty five yards,
twelve yards, twenty four yards, twenty one yards with double
digit touches in.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Each of those games. Yeah, so this is he's I
would do.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
If I had Jamiir Gibbs, I would offer the proverbial
bucket of balls so he can go be stashed on
my bench in case of the emergency.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
But if I have him, he's unplayable. At this point.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's I I do have him in my long term league,
standard league, so more of a reason to play him
in those scenarios. But aside from without getting that touchdown
pass against the Chiefs, no it right, you know, and
those in those that Bengals and Ravens game, it's just
been it's been a miss, and I understand how they
did it previously. And then Jamier Gibbs flashes last year
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with Montgomery out, I just thought it was going to
be role reversal. I just thought Gibbs was probably gonna
get sixty six percent of the carries and Montgomery'd get
the thirty three. And it does the numbers breakdown like that,
at least with carries that you saw on in the
Week seven game against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But it just doesn't feel like that's the case.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It almost feels like you're just trying to, you know,
take a knee and grind clock without taking a knee
to grind clock.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it feels like he's giving Gibbs the breather. Yeah, right,
Like instead of being a part of the offense like
he was in the previous couple of years, it's like,
all right, let's give him the breather. Even in goal
line situations, they're using Gibbs. So I think that there's
reason for concern with David Montgomery.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, let's go to the receiving core really quick here.
I mean, and Tampa's a solid squad, but you look
at the receiving chart. I'm on Ross Say Brown ten targets,
six catches, and then Gibbs had.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Three for three, brock Right three for three, and then
your next leading receivers Montgomery, Raymond Laporta, Williams all also
also rans in this one. So that one, you know,
just to kind of a raise the eyebrow kind of
situation a little bit here as well, Not that it's
long standing, but I know folks have been waiting to
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be able to consistently plug jameson Williams in their lineup.
Guess what that ain't happened.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No, absolutely not know what how this breaks down for
the Lions. I actually don't mind it. It feels like
maybe previously they had too many things that they were
trying to do. If this is what you're going to do,
if this is going to be your plan, then just
go with it. You know that's how you want to
get to a Super Bowl. That's fine. Fantasy wise, it
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sets a much more clear picture. I thought this was
going to be an opportunity. You know, Samu la Porta
had the down year last year that all right, now
it's time for the porter to break out again. And
there was no breakout for sam Laporta.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean you're looking at on the year, I mean
for Jared Goff sixteen hundred total yards, completing seventy five
percent of his passes, fifteen dutchdowns, three picks. But outside
of Aman Ross, Name Brown and Jamier Gibbs. I mean,
that's really sad that you got a team that scored
thirty points a game. But I can't I can't trust
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but two players on it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, the New York Jets can trust
no one, right, Ian zero trust.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Oh yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We don't even know their quarterback is going to be
when they take the field against the Bengals. Coming up
in week eight, we'll discuss that, plus a lot of
other quarterback news that transpired from week seven. It is
I want your Flex. He is Mike Carmen. Hit him
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on Fox and find our executive producer Ian Roddy at
Ian Roddy Underscore. Plus a huge week of byes will
hit us in week eight. Michael have his waiver wire
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picks coming up at the end of the pod along
with our report card. It's all coming up next right here,
and I want your Flex.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We're still not sure of what the exact quarterback situation
will be with the Baltimore Ravens as they're coming out
of a bye. Lamar Jackson wasn't able to practice in
what would have been a I don't know if it's
a faux practice, if you will, but the real deal.
Mike comes up on Wednesday with the Ravens coming out
of that bye but Jackson not getting any work. I
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mentioned the Jets as the Tea's coming into this. We
know the Dolphins are sticking with Tua Go. Pennix has
got a bone bruise in his foot, Jayden Daniels is
dealing with a hamstring injury that isn't serious, but that's
never good news. And Brock Purty likely to miss Week
eight against Houston for San Francisco. And even more going
on is Bryce Young has an ankle injury. With Carolina
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Brucen battered QBS in week seven.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Andy Dalton, that's right, Andy Dalton may show up on
our list this week. Captain Kirk may have to be
the break glass in case of emergency. That was a
tough watch on Sunday Night Football, little b John Robinson
early and then kind of ground down a little bit.
The most exciting thing coming out of that at McCaffrey,
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Big Numbers nonwithstanding, was the fact that you had half
of the WWE universe in a luxury box, including people
that are supposed to be feuding drinking beer together. Tell you, Bailey,
just to let the cat out of the bag. K
Fabe is dead, But yeah, I mean the number of quarterbacks.
We already talked about it, you know, last week, getting
into our mid forties already in terms of starters, we
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may break those previous note records. Right we're in the
what fifty seven last year? I think it was sixty
one the year before the walking wounded, and we're at
that point in the season where maybe if we can
go to that expanded year, guys, with the eighteenth game,
we'll get that second by and it gives everybody that
reset time. But I can tell you this, with the
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six team by in week eight, a lot of folks exhaling, thinking,
all right, maybe we can start getting our teams back together. Unfortunately,
on that list, other than Kyler Murray, everybody else is
healthy at the quarterback position. They may not be good,
but they're healthy at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, I think that you take Arizona and it's the
question I'm going to pose with Carolina. Do we have
the same effect. I mean, the Cardinals offense over these
past couple of weeks and then it win. But they
took the Colts down on the wire, and they had
every opportunity to beat Green Bay. And if you maybe
play a fourth down, play a little little bit smarter
than instead of going for it, just punting it away
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and letting your defense do the work. You maybe have
a different outcome for Arizona. But Jacoby Brissett has been
fine yep, And I'm wondering if the same is going
to happen with Carolina, where we know their running games great, right,
Chib Hubbard comes back, they're still running the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
They go and beat the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think this is probably better for you know, a
guy like Ted McMillan, better for Xavier Lagette and those
guys to break through. I expect more from Carolina's offense,
especially with the Bills coming to down on weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, I mean we talk about the Bills defense. Now
they come out of a bye week, Will they have
magically fixed anything? No, I mean they'll be healthier, but
schematically and personnel wise, they're lacking. Curious with two plus
weeks left before the trade deadline, how much activity we get.
I think this is a year where maybe maybe because
of the change of GM's younger, more aggressive guys and
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a lot of these front offices, that maybe we get more.
I mean we've been treated to a couple including Joe
flaccoshow up in Cincinnati. Look what that did for the offense.
I know it's only a one game Sampler, and maybe
we overrated the Pittsburgh defense a little bit because they've
been gashed and certainly didn't surmount much pressure against a
bad offensive line. But all of that to say, the
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veteran's going to go out there because most of these
guys know, hey, this is it. Like I have no
conscience at this point because I'm not worried about losing
my job. Yeah right, I'm a stopgap guy. Maybe I'm auditioning,
like if I'm Kirk Cousins, I'm trying to get unleashed
so I can go start somewhere again if he ends
up getting the nod for Atlanta. But but for these
other guys, they've had their careers, so why not go
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wing it around and you can work to timing worked opportunity.
We've seen it with Carson Wentz, how well that's worked
in spots and in situations. From Minnesota the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think we're going to get a boost with Carolina.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I think, as crazy as this sounds, but if
you look at the standings of the NFC, the Panthers
are right in it for the division and for the
wild card. Now there are a bunch of really good
teams right now, because you have three teams in the
NFC West at five and two.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
We've got the Packers sitting.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Atop at four to one and one, but Egos are
five and two, Lions sitting there at five and two,
like your Bears have won four straight, but the Panthers
are going to be in the thick of it, and
they don't have a buy until early December, so you've
now got six games before your bye. We have a
high ankle spraying for Bryce Young. I know Dave Canalyis
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is calling it day to day, but we saw what
a high ankle spray with JJ McCarthy has done, especially
when you're maybe not necessarily sold on the quarterback and
you have playoff aspirations. The Panthers have the Bills and
Packers the next two weeks. If they get a win
against one of those teams, You've done have the Saints, Falcons, Niners,
and Rams before your bye, and I think that it's
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an opportunity for Andy Dalton to maybe take the job
for the rest of the season. And that's I think
fantasy improvement for any of the Carolina Panthers that you've got.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Love the idea the balance there, and now it becomes
the question of can you find another option? Right, McMillan's
a guy that we pushed into the stratosphere with some
hot plays, and he's been up in our rankings a bit.
But whether you know it's Cocher, does Legette get a
little bit of juice here and then Sanders or Tremble
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maybe get a little bit more love and the tight
end position if your league still uses it, And that'd
be the curiosity to talk to the different site owners
out there when you talk to Yahoo, ESPN, whatever, like,
what are the percentages of leagues that are still using
a flat tight end spot because a lot of weeks
it feels like you're rolling the dice trying to find
some semblance of magic. So touchdown dependent in a lot
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of those. But that's for another time. But I would
agree with you, Dan, I think, and look, who doesn't
love a little bit of QB one getting back out
there a nod to an old Chicago Bears social media post.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, it's the resurgent of old guys again.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
As we talked with off the Top, you know, the
Flackow and Rogers matchup. Stafford's been doing his thing and
and you know why not having Andy Dalton getting into
the mix. I joked with our Doug Gottlieb Show group text,
like all the old quarterbacks are good except Russell Wilson.
Like that's well, the fact that we are right now in
week seven of the NFL heading into week.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Eight, the fact that you had Sean Payton go. I
was kind of hoping we'd see Ruswick right, my goodness,
because I mean that's the other extreme that we have
in week seven, right, we got a bunch of old guys.
And then we watched that fourth quarter. I mean you
would have been on air for this, Dan right with
a end zone radio. I mean, is that not the
most insane quarter you've ever had to chronicle?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I it was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It was because it was a game where we weren't
paying attention because of the score. It's nineteen to nothing
going into the fourth quarter. I had the Broncos as
my survivor pick. It was going to be part of
my report card year. I had chocked it up of
all right, we're gonna take one on the chin there.
That's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
When the Broncos scored to make it nineteen to eight,
I thought maybe Okay, well there's a little bit of
time left.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But when Wandel Robinson had the ball go through his
hands and then it ended up in the bread basket
of the Theo Johnson and he went into the end zone,
I'm like, well, that's it. That's how you know it's
your day if you're the Giants. Deflection through your guy's hands,
goes into his own hands and you get into the
end zone. Not too dissimilar to how the Broncos ended
up scoring theirs. But I just at that point Mike
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thought it was over, and then with five point fifteen
to go, it was still twenty six to eight. So
then the Broncos scored on the next play and they
get their conversion to make it twenty six to sixteen.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
You have the turnover and punts and what an absolute
mess by the way Jackson Dart maybe great, but Jackson
Dart made missed on a bunch of throws that really
could have ended the interception, and a couple of deep
balls that if you just get it to the guy,
game's over and he missed those throws.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, some of it again goes to the you talk
about throws, but also you.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Can run the football. I mean he can run, yeah,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You know what he's already just the way he in
style that he plays, he's going to expose himself to
big hits. We've seen that, like he's taken on would
be tacklers in the middle of the field. Eventually you
learn to see another day. But a design run just
to get it to the outside for three yards and
to run another minute of clock when you're up as
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big as you are. I mean, that's the thing. They
still scored thirteen points in that quarter. We got to
take the kicker off the hook, but but they scored
thirteen points and still found a way to lose.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And Dark made a heck of a play on fourth
to nineteen to get them the first down on that drive.
And then the.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Broncos were nailed for a roughing the passer penalty, which
was atrocious, right, and then you had the pass interference penalty,
which was doubly atrocious. Like I understand Sean Payton getting
a penalty which only measured out to be about eight
inches because of how close they were to the goal line,
so it didn't necessarily matter.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I would have been furious too.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And as I said, I had survivor action in on it,
So I'm like, you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Call a pass interference on that call? You know?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That really helped the Giants and I don't know, ball
don't lie. That's why they missed the extra point, and
then Denver is able to get there's an heckt mike.
Even the last drive of Denver, the Marvin Mims catch
at midfield could have been deflected by Courtland Sutton. Sutton's
running his road acrossed. He doesn't get it. It ends up
in the bread basket of Mims to set them up,
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and then they get the off sides call on Brian
Burns to get them another five yards and.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Just craziness.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Game of inches, man, like all over the place that
the Peyton thing get in the penalty that was just
in but like you said, it was for eight inches. Yeah,
so you might as well go, you know, have your say,
But yeah, that was that was just insane trying to
track that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
By the way, we were just talking about teams that
aren't like getting it done. Denver's like not getting it
done either, Like there's just there's still something funky. But
when you score thirty three points in the fourth quarter,
you're gonna end up having some numbers. But offensively, I
just I just wonder. It just doesn't seem like they're
running the ball as well as they should have been
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or could be doing. We know Courtland Sutton's good, but
who's gonna be that second guy to really emerge? So
Denver's got some issues. Despite putting up that thirty three
spot in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yeah, you look at JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
This was his best game since going back to that
Monday tilt against the Bengals. A couple of well solid
game but not spectacular against Philadelphia and then the Jets.
For all we can mock them, the defense has actually
shown up, so the side of the ball that your
head coach is supposed to be the expert at. They've
given up twenty six points in the last two weeks.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That should get you a w right.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I wonder if Glenn has secretly taken play calling duties
from Steve Wilkes without wanting to publicly you know out Yeah,
who knows.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Just a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I like it. Let's print that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I like those conspiracy theories. I don't know if the
Jets stood out to Ian in Week seven, but what
stood out to.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You Ian, Uh yeah, I mean, well not the Jets,
but division rival the Patriots stood out to me definitely.
I I'm really wondering if they're a playoff team because
which is just crazy to say if you think about
going in, which is wild, Like if you look at
their remaining schedule, I don't want to go through it all.
But like they have the Jets twice, haven't played them yet,
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so that's two free wins. They play the Browns this
coming week, they play they still have to play the Bengals,
the Giants, the Ravens, the Dolphins, like they've got some
cupcake matchups coming up. And that's they already have five
wins on the season. And fun stat for you guys,
Mike Rabel five wins now this season as the Patriots
head coach. Since firing him two years ago, the Titans
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franchise has a total of four wins. Wow, and Rabel
just passed them by beating them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It goes to the point made last week.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's why I think Callahan got canned what he did
just it was the it was the Mike Rabel homecoming.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
No, it's it right, this was coming back and get
get clear that out of the house, and you know,
as you talked about all of the sideline and antics
and the back and forth in the at the podium
and everything else, it all added up. But Rabel doing
a hell of a job taking advantage of the schedule.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I mean, that was one of the things.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
If you looked at dark Horse and Drake May has
been everything. Yeah, they hoped he'd be, and that much
more right twenty one twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Three man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And like I mean, there are a couple of like
da Mario Douglas had a pretty good catch, but Stefan
Diggs has emerged, Keayshon Boodie shown he can play.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Hunter Henry is still a viable option. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
The only the only player to not really get on
track has been Trivion Henderson, who he had, you know,
expected to and we've talked about him recently.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I mean, kudos to the Patriots to stick.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
With Romandre Stevenson to being like this is how we
want to play football, and he's become a viable option
for them.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They they are the real deal.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
They're all over under was eight and a half wins
this year, so there, so if you hit the over
that you think they were nine to eight. I had
them as one of my final wildcard teams in the AFC,
but they are absolutely legit.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
But it just says it turns up the clock for
teams that are also in a first like the Jets,
you know, with like Aaron Glenn trying to preach how
this turnaround takes time. But you see guys like Mike Rabel,
like Liam Cohen come in and right away the teams
look way more competitive than they did the.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Pre figuring out And it's cliche, but it but it's
that for a reason, right, finding your identity slash culture,
whatever term you want to throw on, and they all
kind of go into a blender.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
But you gotta gotta have a vision.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Right With Jacksonville, they decided, all right, well I might
be the quarterback whisper and I did some great things
with Baker, but unless we can run the football, like
Trevor's not that guy, right, because we're still trying to
figure out who their.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Number two receiver is, right, which right?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I mean, how much did they make of that at
halftime of that game yesterday? Zero defensive snaps like that
was the big deal?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
It was all offense all the time, made a couple
of big plays, left a couple on the field. All
of that to say, you know, you're trying to figure
out that second guy. Go up to where New England
is and Dan, you hit it on the head with
with the Henderson Stevenson is like, they paid Stevenson a
lot of money and they're gonna go down swinging ball.
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Security issues might still get him in the end, but
I've decided he's whatever that separation is, whatever Henderson isn't
doing in practice, or they're not seeing or they don't
trust him in past situations, all of that plays into
this is your guy. But in Rabel, it's kind of
like going back to the Dan Campbell whatever brash. You
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may not love it, you may not like it stylistically,
but if the players buy in, it's winning football.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, And I think I think Romandre Stevenson runs how
Mike Vrabel wants his team to be and that's why
he's so valuable.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Where Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's fumbling the football, it's going to become an issue,
but he's so physical and he gives them that sort
of edge and then allows Drake May to go twenty
one of twenty three and hit his guy it's it's
truly something. By the way, to the point, I know
Ian wasn't trying to say this, but like Rabel is
almost a one of one. We're right in talking about
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him and the Dan Campbell sort of thing. I think
they do things differently in how they do it. Yeah,
but I think that's the frustrating thing about this is
I'm convinced, guys that half the coaches in the NFL
really don't know what they're doing. Oh, I agree, you know,
like it sounds, it sounds very flippant, but like to
understand like it's just it's meant to be a compliment
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to the top half of the coaches as opposed to
those who are in the bottom half.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
No, that's it. I mean we'll look.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
We opened by talking about some of the situational conundrums
of Monday night, right, confusing coaching decisions and down distance
timeout clock management, which we do each and every week.
But you know, we sit here as we're taping late
on a Monday night at West Coast time, like, there's
how many coaches that you're looking at, going, all right,
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did they get in past week?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Eight? Right?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I mean, you know, you look at Mike McDaniel Aaron Glenn.
Do they decide to just say, Okay, we're done. That'd
be one hell of a combo for a team to
hire as coordinators.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Though.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I mean, I thought McDaniel was going to get the
acts on Monday, I really did. I was surprised that
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Do.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You guys, see the clip of Quin Yeers coming off
the field after his first few snaps in mcgame.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Just didn't even look at him.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You didn't acknowledge him. Not a slap on the shoulders.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
These are the little things at the margin that separate
great coaches.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
It's like, just be a player's coach. Support your guy.
He just went in started his NFL career.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Give him some love.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It's just so they're sticking with Tua. And by the way,
I do want to say this, it's not that I
would know how to run an NFL team, Yeah exactly.
You know, so when I say, like the coaches don't
know what they're doing, it's not meant to sound as
disrespectful as it's coming off of. But I just I
just think like a guy like Vray Bold just he
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has it. He has something that not every coach has. Like, look,
at Brian Callahan. You know, it's just he doesn't have it.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But like verybo lost a personality thing, right, you install
a new GM ownership decides in that vacuum and what
they were doing in the transition that the GM wins
that battle.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, didn't want a J. Brown traded, They traded AJ
Brown and then the trickle down effect. No matter what
I think of a J. Brown still, it's kind of
the domino effect. A Mike's a week seven standout stuff
to you, except from what we've we've hit on.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Well, we've hit that point where I mean, look winning
ugly from a real and fantasy standpoint, right, you know
you look at your Seahawks on Monday night and it's
Jack's it's jsn Right, it's his show.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I go back to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Defense scored fifteen points, right, I picked him up in
a league just looking at my.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Other option streaming defense is this right?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I mean, it's just turnovers, It's and I joked about it,
you know, the Lovey Smith angle of it last week.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
So that's it. Right. We're trying to.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Steal points wherever we can in these leagues, and certainly
we've got enough offenses that can't get out of their
own way Vegas, Miami, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
The Jets.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
So you're going to have that opportunity to go and
steal those extra couple of points. You may be, you know,
without that extra running back. And certainly we've got enough
injuries between the wide receiving quarterback position that it's going
to be a veritable gold rush on the waiver wire
for Week eight. But it's just that, like we've now
settled into we know what these teams are, go and
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find the weak lambs and lead them to the slaughter.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I will also say this, I think that we look
at Ben Johnson with your Bears. It's coming in and
being like, all right, what trick plays is he going
to do? You know, when's he going to have the
guard drop back and run a flee flicker with you know,
sure Colston Loveland, but just to get the running game,
just to get DeAndre Smith swift and what he's been
(34:59):
able to do. I mean, he's over one hundred yards
on Sunday. If you can get that sorted out, it
makes things a lot easier for capable.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well that's just it, right, he doesn't need to be
a world beater at one seventy two zero in one.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I look, he was one of my misses.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Thought it was an opportunity for them to put up
some points, take advantage of expecting the defense to do
what it really did. But he wasn't the beneficiary. He
didn't make it play in the passing games. So that look,
if you listen to the post game, I guarantee it,
you guys will not find a post game in any
city better than Dan Hampton and ed Obradovich, because even
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if they win by two touchdowns like they win here
twenty six fourteen, you'd still think they lost by forty like.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It is the best. Yeah, yeah, and that event.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Occasionally you'll hear you can almost hear the paper of
the producer saying, remind people that the Bears won, because
the way you've talked for the last fifteen minutes, you
would have thought it was a blood the other way. Curiosity, though,
is moning guy getting the thirteen carries for eighty one
yards he did. He's someone we talked about a little
bit in the preseason, flashed a bit for him. It
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now looks like he's firmly supplanted Rashawn Johnson and anybody
else as a number two, and the fact that they
relied on the run game as much as they did
is impressive. Obviously, we know that's what Ben Johnson would
love to do given that time in Detroit, but to
actually be able to commit to it. And I'll give
DeAndre Swift credit. I put him only as a ninja
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instead of a hot play last week because I didn't
trust that they'd do it. So they did good on
them and they got runs over twenty yards from both
of those guys, So that was encouraging, not just Hey,
I'm going to Baltimore hoping that they have some semblance
of an offense, and then we'd be remiss if we
didn't at least acknowledge. The Chiefs are looking scary again.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
For Shure Rice two touchdowns in his first game back.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Well, I mean they treat they treated him like you know,
he was scorn and I'm so mad at myself because
I had him in my lineup guys, but I replaced
him with Mike Evans because hey, Evans is coming back
Monday night. The Lions don't have a secondary. Sure, I
took out Rashie Rice to put in Mike Evans, and
I should have known, especially with the Raiders in town
that they would have tried to do it. They did
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to get Rashie Rice the football. Yeah, I'm in an
err on that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
One seven of ten, forty two and two so red
zone efficiency. Talk about what nine guys with at least
one reception for Kansas City but an offense over the
last month, that's been fantastic, the defense stuff getting Look,
the Raiders stink. There's no to if Andrew Butts I
think I was driving up and Daniel Jeremiah still licking
(37:46):
his wounds from what happened to the Chargers, because that's
a whole other kettle of fish, as it were, because
they were absolutely decimated and destroyed in that matchup against
the Colts. First quote, real team. Maybe for the Colts
that we say, hey, they went and put a herding on,
because we have a lot of dismissiveness about their schedule
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early on. But the fact that the Raiders, this is
something Jeremiah said in real time, possessed the ball for
less than five minutes if you just watched it together,
like without the you know, forty seconds of stoppage and
whatever else, right that runs.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
They had three first downs and it was the fourth quarter,
Geno Smith had sixty seven yards passing. It was Oh,
by the way, they finished with three first downs. They
didn't even get one.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
It's brought Flowers, the MVP at the NFL eight seven seven.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
My goodness.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just saw the stat and I wrote it down
on my notes, and like, they've got three first downs
and it's the fourth quarter, and because it was a blowout,
I didn't pay much attention. And now I just went
to the team stats. They finished with three first downs. Oh,
my goodness.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Once that's amazing, right, but in ninety five total yards.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh man, the Raiders logo wish he had patches over
both eyes so he wouldn't have to watch that crap.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Chip Kelly should have just stayed at Ohio.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
No, he's getting paid six million dollars for this.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
You look at Matt Patricia now at Ohio State, like
these failed head coaches should just stay in college and there's.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
A place to be. You get to you know, you
get to coach the kids that are well paid now
as well. Uh tell you what the Ohio State running
game may need, Chip Kelly. Actually, then they quinch On
Judkins and Trevion Anderson again. But that's another story. All right,
that's that's kind of our look at week seven. We'll
have more on this on our next episode. And just
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stuff popping up in the league. What's gonna happen with
Jayden Daniels and the Commanders, maybe some of the fears there,
and and and what's ahead as we start to get
into the heavy buys. But speaking of the heavy buys,
Mike's gonna have your waiver wire picks coming up four
week eight, plus we'll do our report card check on
what hit and what missed. I'm afraid to say I
may have swung mightily and came up with a lot
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of air on the points of Palooza, but we'll talk
about it next year on I WAT your Flex. All right, Mike,
let's get to the waiver wire for week eight, because
again there are six teams on buy something a little
different as the Jaguar, Seahawks, Cardinals, Rams, Raiders and Lions
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all will have the week off.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Who we picking up in week.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Eight, Well, we're going deep down the rabbit hole, right.
We already talked about monding guy with his fifteen touches
game against the Ravens. That defense didn't get healthy suddenly
after a bye week. So there we talk about al
Gier going up against Miami, just talking about game situation.
I have no idea what kind of effort we're getting
from Miami. I never want to talk about heart and
(40:51):
quitting from NFL teams, but they're just not good even
if that max efforts. So expecting the run game there
to have a big day.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
R J.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Harvey showed up towards the end, He's still virtually unowned.
And it's the kind of thing we talk about Dobbins
for the long haul. I mean, now we're playing the
long game here of making sure we're shoring up. That
brings us to Spears as well. Keaton Mitchell, is he
a member of the Ravens or is he a guy
that gets them a defensive helper along the way. Not
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quite sure. Brishard Smith mentioned him five catches forty two
yards as part of what's going on in Kansas City.
Look beyond Rashid Rice. Not sure what the workload is
for all of these guys, and that's includes Travis Kelce
as to how much he's kind of in mothballs till
they need him for a stretch run. But when we
look at the run game and trying to find a
little diamond in the rough. We go there, talk about Houston,
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not sure what Nico Collins' status for next week will be,
but left with a concussion. That was what we were told.
So when we look at Houston, you're looking at Dalton Schultz.
You're looking at Jalen Noel who ended up with seven targets,
four catches, seventy seven yards, rookie out of Iowa State.
So perhaps an opportunist there. Romeo Dobbs eleven catches for
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one hundred and twenty seven yards the last two weeks.
He's still unowned in about forty percent of league. So
perhaps a guy you can go find Aronde Gadston if
we want to go take a deeper view here. Already
mentioned Dalton Schultz is the tight end. Well, let's keep
going because guys with bigger shares that are going to
be big parts of the offense. Pat Fryermuth had that
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big game against Cincinnati. Hang it with you know, a
little star on it that it's the Bengals. But also
we know Aaron Rodgers loves his tight end position. Historically
he's healthy. Yeah, you might have those games where he's
the lesser between he and John new Smith. But there
will be the opportunities where everybody plays, everybody wins. Now
quickly back to the quarterbacks. For whatever reason, people have
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been reticent to add Jackson Dart. They don't know why
he's still out there in a bunch of leagues. Flacco's
got the Jets revenge game, anybody.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
No, Yeah? Good?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
A lot of them, yeah, exactly at this point, a
lot of jerseys up. He could make a quilt like
my daughter's doing with all the old concert shirts. Sauces
banged up. May or may not be available for this one.
But even if he is five hundred and fifty yards
five touchdowns the last two weeks for Flacco, Look, he's
got two wide outs that you could just throw it
up and go get it. And I know that we
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talk about coaches and where that line of demarcation is.
Certainly we have that for quarterback play. We talked if
he were able to go PANDIX would be a good start. Well,
now it's Kirk Cousins again. Speculative pickup play, Rogers going
up against the old team of Green Bay. Yeah, sign
me up for that one. And then the Andy Dalton
Fest against Buffalo, assuming at least for one week that
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he gets a run.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Green Bay three and a half point favorite that I'm
looking at right now. That surprised me a little bit
for Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
But well, I think some of it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I mean in that defense, yeah, and man, the pass rush,
and they had a couple of weeks in a row
of five sack games to help push it. But you
know that secondary can be had. That maybe just the
veteran acumen and the idea that that Aaron Rodgers is
just a salty curmudgeon. I mean, look out what Maddy
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got at the offensive lineman that jumped on him.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, that was really funny. I get it, though.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
I agree. I'm forty years old. Man, come on.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll tell you what. Watching the Seahawks, this popped into
my head. I was like, you know, watching Donald make
some bad throws, like, you know, if Aaron Rodgers makes
the good throws that Sam Donald was, maybe you know,
Rogers wouldn't throw the interceptions. And then I remembered the
chuck up to the begels.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. He still does
that every once in a while.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeap, hey, go get it, Fellas.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, it is here it is. By the way, the
lines four week eight, there are just four games on
the schedule with a line of three and a half
or less. Everything is north of that, so we may
have some one sided affairs, or it could be the
NFL and everything flips over on its head.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
For week eight, just what you think you got it
figured out?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yes, yes, let's do our report cards quick. We'll start
with Ian, we'll work through me and Mike. You can
wrap it up with your report card. How the streaming
defenses work for week seven?
Speaker 6 (45:25):
In Yeah, Mike, you mentioned it earlier in the show.
But yeah, Chicago Bears they ended up getting you fifteen
fantasy points, only allowed fourteen points on the day, got
three interceptions, a fumble recovery, and four sacks. Jacksonville Jaguars
had a negative negative.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
One fantasy points. We'll skip over that one really quick.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Then Carolina Panthers they got you sixteen fantasy points. Six
points allowed on the day, two interceptions and six sacks.
So Panthers and Bears were great plays for you. The
Jaguars will just gloss over that one's yeah, minus one
not great day for them, but the other two awesome.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
But I give you a lot of credit.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I just want to make this point because this is
a fight I used to have with a lot of
football players before they realized how much money fantasy really
brought to their pockets. Was like, how do you pick
Like you're a Chicago guy, how could you pick up
Brett Fahr? Like pretty easy? Nobody's getting shut out? Like
shutouts are rare, okay, Jets sho or Raiders or whatever.
(46:24):
But the idea is like, if they're going to score
twenty two points a game or whatever it is, might
as well be on my team.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Yeah, might as well be a benefactor.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
So you saying, hey, Caroline, against the Jets, you learned
that lesson very very early, something that I think people
still grapple with.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well, I did pick up the Bears defense as a
streaming defense, so they helped me.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
This week.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I just benched the Texans because they were going up
against my Seahawks, and Sam Donald and the Seahawks made
it a more of a field day than I would
have liked in that matchup. But yeah, the streaming defense
advice of the Panthers and Bears definitely hit.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So we'll just forget about the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Just like we're gonna forget about my points of palooza,
where I don't even know if I mentioned it in
the podcast. I had it written down it was Falcons Niners,
So if I didn't mention it, I'm glad that I didn't,
but that would have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Been an absolute miss.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Again, I can't take the highest point totals each week,
so I tried to look a little below. I just
thought maybe that the Falcons would be worn out because
of the short week and the long travel they were,
But they then only put up ten points against the
depleted forty nine Ers team, but a heck of a
game for Christian.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
McCaffrey Survivor wise guys. Outside of the Steelers losing on
Thursday Night status quo. Through Week seven, everybody advanced yes
you have.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
The Packers were popular, Chiefs were popular, The Broncos were
a popular pick. So that thirty three point fourth quarter,
including in one of my entries, that was the one
that I thought was the sure thing the question marks
that I said, if you really wanted to play, and
you really wanted to play Survivor, right, you could go
Bears and Browns. They were both winners. I actually wish
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I would have listened to my own advice. At the end,
I took out the Browns and put the Patriots in
Cardinal Sin. I apologize, but everybody advanced. So a lot
of people still alive heading into Week eight of Survivor
because there just wasn't much carnage in week seven.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, that Brown's went tough, though I could see that
that toggle going. Do I really trust him? It's there
for us, It's there.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I gave the reasoning on the pod, the weather, the
Browns unit home game, the whole deal, and just how
much of a mess the Dolphins were. But I just
thought there's no way Rabel is losing his return. And
I didn't think that there would be a way. And
I mentioned this on Sunday that the Broncos would lose
when they are inducting Damarius Thomas into the Ring of Honor.
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And I'm telling you what. I don't know what you believe,
but I'm thinking Denver had a little extra on their
side Sunday. Believe whatever you want, but my goodness to
have that come back against the Giants on that day
quite the story.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
One of my favorites.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
And watching the you know Peyton Manning interview and some
of those other things. Man, that's whenever we get into
you know, the in look sports talk radio hot take nonsense,
forgetting about the human element in the in the locker
rooms and what these guys really mean to each other.
I just advise folks, go find the Peyton Manning clip. Yeah,
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whether you like the Manning cast or tired of him
on commercials, whatever, the guy you know talking about his
relationship with DT and everything was just next level stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Absolutely, Mike, what did you gosh looking at your wide receivers?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Hit hit hit hit hit. My goodness, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
We we had.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
We had a good run, right, CD came back in
Grand Faction. We talked about JSN and I'm on Rossaint Brown,
DeVante Adams with a big day, So we get our
victories there. Brian Thomas leaves us wanting as he he's
want to do, but we survive. Running back wise, you know,
Vijon found the end zone, but not necessarily the fireworks
(50:08):
that we were hoping for. McCaffrey picked up for us.
Josh Jacobs, who scared us a little bit with that
report that he was a true game time decision. I'll
never believe the words true game time decision. Again, if
the word true shows up, the guy is gonna play,
and he's gonna play in big, big fashion. Javonte Williams
finish as a top ten guy for us as well
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Jonathan Taylor. I mean, what else is there to say
about what that offense did to that Chargers defense. I
think that should be outlawed, and it might actually be
in a couple of states. We look at Dak and
may and Hertz and Mahomes all finished strong for us.
Mayfield left us wanting, and Jade Daniels left unfortunately in
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what could have been a big spot. But you know,
look at the Cowboys rolling things up, and then Jared
Goff tepid at best. From our hot plays, Cold Soars
and Ninja's Bone Nicks Daniel Jones find find their way
to QB one status. Addison had a big day for
Shee Rice in his return gave us some love as
well as Judkins Cold Soars right. I mean, I feel
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like I'm cheating putting two on any list at this point,
so I won't do that again. And Juwan Jennings was
was a also ran the Ninjas swift we mentioned him
and Stevenson still giving us some love. We mentioned Tees Johnson,
so I'll take the victories. As for the Els, gave
a couple in the top fives, but Caleb Williams gave
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me nothing. Kamara gave me nothing. Against the Bears, it
was all Chris o'lave go, buck ass, Jackson Dart I
had as a cold star, thinking, hey, Denver will contain him.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
No, they won't.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Likewise, camp Scadavo did his thing. DeVante Smith one of
your biggest scores of the week, so still trying to
figure out what the hell the Eagles are at this point.
And then I had Michael Pittman down. He finished as
a number two, so good on him. Justin Fields as
a ninja, you were right to call me out and
call me an idiot, so you both get extra cheese
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at a date to be determined. So yeah, we hit
more than we missed, but a couple of big swings
that left me us smarting, no question.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Well, I think, all in all though, is a pretty
good week for you on the especially with the rankings.
I think you and basically your top four we're golden
for what we had a week ago. Hopefully we can
carry that momentum into week eight again. Six teams on buys,
so prepare accordingly. We're going to dive into that and
so much more as we start to hit the get
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towards the middle of the season. There's also a trade
deadline coming up that could be a factor as well.
All topics we're going to dive into here and I
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Speaker 2 (00:34):
Ex hal Week seven is finally over. Oh my goodness.
Was that the longest week ever?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I mean seriously, I know we had the double header
on Monday night, but Bengals Steelers seems like it was
nineteen days ago because we've had the craziness of the
Alcs going on and this doubleheader hit. Mike up at
Swollen Dolm. You can find me at Dan Byer on
Foxy and Roddy's the executive producer. Find him at Ian
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
I know the Seahawks and Texans win three and a
half hours on Monday night. Oh my goodness. It was
a long Week seven, But it's.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
It go back to that Thursday night game which never
ended because I mean, we and we're glad it didn't
because them in sixty four points two old guys getting
after it. Some of the fantasy guys that we've been
waiting for at least showed up. Whether they were in
your lineup or not, I can't tell you. I mean
we talked about Chase Brown of all right, he's got
to be a back end too. But you're wishing and
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hoping that something big comes out of it, and it did.
And then you add the game overseas to start a Sunday,
so you add an extra three hours of viewing window.
So all of that, plus the league championship series and
whatever else you got going on on your weekend. That
was a very very long week. And then Monday night
football just wouldn't end a very odd start to it.
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The way the Buccaneers played and Baker Mayfield, I mean,
he was one of thirteen on passes of at least
fifteen yards, and several of those tees Johnson or who
whoever the target was was wide open, like passes he
hasn't missed since he was hanging out with the Cleveland
Browns and maybe standing on the sidelines with the Panthers.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Still don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But all of that to say, the final whistle finally
sounded on the Seattle in Houston game and then exhaled,
and I know you did, Dan and Ian working with
us this evening or Monday evening at Fox Sports Radio,
and it was just kind of like, huh, that was
a game. I don't know what to take from it,
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but that was a game.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, it was neither team wanted to win. Like the
Texans couldn't do anything offensively. Seattle was giving every opportunity
for the Texans to get back into the ballgame, you feel.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I know, Mike, you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Guys talked about the kickoff that Jamiko Ryans and the
Texans chose to kick and play, which was a bit
of a recap from Week one between the Vikings and Bears.
But I also look at that play and about nine
others in that game of just coaching staffs that we love.
We love what Demiko Ryans is doing with the Texans defense,
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we love what Mike McDonald is doing with the Seahawks defense.
But my goodness, what they're doing offensively or what they're
not doing offensively just has.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
My mind blown.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Because the Seahawks are supposed to be one of the
better teams in the NFL, and nowither of these teams
could get out of their own way on Monday night.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Situationally, they are just I don't know how many games.
You know, if you sit down and you start charting
it and making notes, you drive yourself insane, going okay.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Why how?
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And you wish you were in the locker room to
at least be able to stare down the player or
the coach to ask the question the thing with the
final final possession. For those that didn't watch that, and
you know, maybe you're lucky you didn't watch in parts
because maybe you're infuriated like we are.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I mean, Dan, you're.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Invested because of the team. For me, I'm just wanting it,
just going okay, we're on air and Smith and I
are are breaking us down. I'm like, okay, you've got
one time out in the two minute warning and you
kick it to where it's returnable, like what are we doing?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
And then so many decisions.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Then you have the officiating gets involved with a bunch
of stuff and just it becomes this amalgam and it's
fortunate and unfortunate. I don't have the benefit of the
analysis that's going on on TV, right, I can only
go with what I see and then eventually try to
catch up through the powers of the interwebs and whatever.
But to your point, yeah, I mean Seattle should have
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won this game by thirty points.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Yeah, there were nine possessions in the fourth quarter. Run
the ball, and I think that's my point. I'm not
gonna And if you're a loyal listening to the podcast,
you know I'm a Seahawks fan. You know Ian's a
Jets fan, you know Mike's a Bears fan. I'm not
going to boil you for ten minutes to talk about
the Seahawks. But they needed to run the football, which
they can't do. And that leads me to a fantasy
(05:01):
point right now is Kenneth Walker has become dart near invisible.
He is almost to the point where he is unplayable, Mike,
because Sharvon is not getting all the goal line carries.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
No, that's just it, right, You're still getting a decent
touched count some weeks, but then you got other weeks
that are disappearing acts, and you've got a forced game
streak without a touchdown and sharbon A coming in at
the goal line it's the worst worst site in the
world seeing him checking in.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
They aren't built to run the football, and I think
it's it's pretty clear and it's the Texans are a
good defense, There's there's no doubt about that. But unless
you're getting a weak matchup at some point, I just
I don't I.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Don't see the ground game.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Despite how some of the uh the analysts in the
game felt that Seattle was was great on both they're
good on both sides of the ball. I just I
don't think that they can they can run the ball
right now. There's also not a commitment to it. And
like it's like it's a different problem with the Texans,
who just don't have guys. What he marks doesn't seem
like he's up to it yet. He had the one
(06:07):
flash game against the Titans. Nick Chubb's day better days
are behind him. They just don't have anybody in Houston
to go along with an awful offensive line. The Seahawks
at least have two guys, but I don't know if
they can really do anything with them. And now, if
you're trying to choose, I mean, I guess you're playing
charbon ay, But for where you drafted Kenneth Walker at
this point. My goodness, it's frustrating to watch the how
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things at least unfolded in Seattle on Monday night.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
Dan, I would say, especially because Kenneth Walker is running well,
like when you actually see him touch the ball, and
the few chances that he does get he looks better
than Sharbon it does. That's why it's so frustrating to
see Sharbone come onto the field as soon as they
get into the red zone thanks to Walker.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, and he's not a threat out of the backfield
to catch the football right, very few opportunities as well.
So yeah, so I can understand. I can understand, which
which then kind of leads me to this point about
night with the Buccaneers. Now, Mike Evans is done right
for the you know, pretty much for the rest of
your fantasy regular season.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
The streak ends.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Yeah, these streak ends, And now what happens with the Buccaneers.
Are we going back to the Bucky Irving when he
gets healthy? Rashad White two headed Monster? Is it just
all the Amecca Buca show? Is it the arrival of
tedz Johnson after the great play that he had on
Monday night and what he did the week prior. Like
(07:30):
I with Mike Evans out, that's a big, big gap
people are gonna have to fill in their lineup.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Give a big shout to the back seven of Detroit
because here's a couple of stat lines from the receiving
core of the Buccaneers. Sterling Shepherd seven catches, seven catches, great,
twenty five yards Rashad White out of the back field.
We know he's a threat, Okay, cool, he can pick
up a little bit where Bucky Irving normally would do
(07:55):
some damage. Four catches six yards. Oh, I mean you
got your PPR gold, So you got that. But they
couldn't run the ball. Ten carries thirty eight yards for White.
Tucker had the one carry, but Kate Otton And look
the interception really isn't that always tied goes to the
(08:16):
runner or to the offense. Now we're going to decide, well,
he's got a higher percentage of the ball.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I mean, what are we doing?
Speaker 4 (08:22):
But either way, seven cadges sixty five yards for him.
Like I said, Baker was hearing footsteps and he certainly
had plenty of pressure on him over the course of
the night in Detroit. With a great job getting after him,
but open throws. There was one on a crosser to
Johnson that should have been an easy touchdown to make
it a one score game, and he just overshot him
(08:45):
by a good eat to ten yards. He came free
and clear across the coverage, but just couldn't get the
timing down. And this is even with a Buka back, right,
So Evans goes down, but you at least had a
booka available twelve tard gets, so certainly no limitations.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Yeah, and just four catches on the night for a BUCA.
That's gonna be an interesting spot to look forward. I
think that Buka's value obviously will increase. Hopefully he gets
fully healthy at some point. They got another game against
the Saints next week and then they have their buy,
so they'll hopefully be able to rest up at that point.
(09:25):
But I'm also curious to see what happens with Baker
a little bit because he had been fine with Evans
out of the lineup, and so now you have a
prolonged absence and we'll just see if they can continue
to roll. What other point from that game in Detroit
on Monday night, And Mike, again, you may have been
(09:45):
on the air when this was said or prepping in
a studio where there wasn't sound, but there was a
comment made about how the Lions offensive coordinator John Morton
was saying, Yeah, we hear you about David Montgomery, and
you know, we're trying to feed the ball to everybody.
There's a lot of a lot of guys to get
the football too. And when you see what jimyr Gibbs
(10:07):
did tonight, and you see what David Montgomery did tonight,
I mean, how are we still holding out hope? Do
we still look back at what Montgomery did against the Ravens.
Is this just a one off or or are they
telling us something without actually telling us something?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
In Detroit?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm not quite sure why you keep feeding in
the ball, right, You've had the one game, solid game
against Cincinnati, so you're looking at bottom feeders in THEAF.
No disrespect to Joe Flacco. He's elite and all and
may ride and they may rise from the depths in
a bad division. But I mean his two games where
he flashed were Cincinnati and Baltimore. Chicago's an outlier because
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all they did was wanted to take them to the woodsheds.
So I pushed that otherwise you're looking at twenty five yards,
twelve yards, twenty four yards, twenty one yards with double
digit touches in.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
Each of those games. Yeah, so this is he's I
would do.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
If I had Jamiir Gibbs, I would offer the proverbial
bucket of balls so he can go be stashed on
my bench in case of the emergency.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
But if I have him, he's unplayable. At this point.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
It's I I do have him in my long term league,
standard league, so more of a reason to play him
in those scenarios. But aside from without getting that touchdown
pass against the Chiefs, no it right, you know, and
those in those that Bengals and Ravens game, it's just
been it's been a miss, and I understand how they
did it previously. And then Jamier Gibbs flashes last year
(11:38):
with Montgomery out, I just thought it was going to
be role reversal. I just thought Gibbs was probably gonna
get sixty six percent of the carries and Montgomery'd get
the thirty three. And it does the numbers breakdown like that,
at least with carries that you saw on in the
Week seven game against Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
But it just doesn't feel like that's the case.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
It almost feels like you're just trying to, you know,
take a knee and grind clock without taking a knee
to grind clock.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it feels like he's giving Gibbs the breather. Yeah, right,
Like instead of being a part of the offense like
he was in the previous couple of years, it's like,
all right, let's give him the breather. Even in goal
line situations, they're using Gibbs. So I think that there's
reason for concern with David Montgomery.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, let's go to the receiving core really quick here.
I mean, and Tampa's a solid squad, but you look
at the receiving chart. I'm on Ross Say Brown ten targets,
six catches, and then Gibbs had.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
Three for three, brock Right three for three, and then
your next leading receivers Montgomery, Raymond Laporta, Williams all also
also rans in this one. So that one, you know,
just to kind of a raise the eyebrow kind of
situation a little bit here as well, Not that it's
long standing, but I know folks have been waiting to
(12:53):
be able to consistently plug jameson Williams in their lineup.
Guess what that ain't happened.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
No, absolutely not know what how this breaks down for
the Lions. I actually don't mind it. It feels like
maybe previously they had too many things that they were
trying to do. If this is what you're going to do,
if this is going to be your plan, then just
go with it. You know that's how you want to
get to a Super Bowl. That's fine. Fantasy wise, it
(13:19):
sets a much more clear picture. I thought this was
going to be an opportunity. You know, Samu la Porta
had the down year last year that all right, now
it's time for the porter to break out again. And
there was no breakout for sam Laporta.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
No.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
I mean you're looking at on the year, I mean
for Jared Goff sixteen hundred total yards, completing seventy five
percent of his passes, fifteen dutchdowns, three picks. But outside
of Aman Ross, Name Brown and Jamier Gibbs. I mean,
that's really sad that you got a team that scored
thirty points a game. But I can't I can't trust
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but two players on it.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well, the New York Jets can trust
no one, right, Ian zero trust.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
Oh yeah, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
We don't even know their quarterback is going to be
when they take the field against the Bengals. Coming up
in week eight, we'll discuss that, plus a lot of
other quarterback news that transpired from week seven. It is
I want your Flex. He is Mike Carmen. Hit him
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Ian Roddy Underscore. Plus a huge week of byes will
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(14:22):
picks coming up at the end of the pod along
with our report card. It's all coming up next right here,
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Speaker 3 (14:32):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
We're still not sure of what the exact quarterback situation
will be with the Baltimore Ravens as they're coming out
of a bye. Lamar Jackson wasn't able to practice in
what would have been a I don't know if it's
a faux practice, if you will, but the real deal.
Mike comes up on Wednesday with the Ravens coming out
of that bye but Jackson not getting any work. I
(14:54):
mentioned the Jets as the Tea's coming into this. We
know the Dolphins are sticking with Tua Go. Pennix has
got a bone bruise in his foot, Jayden Daniels is
dealing with a hamstring injury that isn't serious, but that's
never good news. And Brock Purty likely to miss Week
eight against Houston for San Francisco. And even more going
on is Bryce Young has an ankle injury. With Carolina
(15:17):
Brucen battered QBS in week seven.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Andy Dalton, that's right, Andy Dalton may show up on
our list this week. Captain Kirk may have to be
the break glass in case of emergency. That was a
tough watch on Sunday Night Football, little b John Robinson
early and then kind of ground down a little bit.
The most exciting thing coming out of that at McCaffrey,
(15:40):
Big Numbers nonwithstanding, was the fact that you had half
of the WWE universe in a luxury box, including people
that are supposed to be feuding drinking beer together. Tell you, Bailey,
just to let the cat out of the bag. K
Fabe is dead, But yeah, I mean the number of quarterbacks.
We already talked about it, you know, last week, getting
into our mid forties already in terms of starters, we
(16:03):
may break those previous note records. Right we're in the
what fifty seven last year? I think it was sixty
one the year before the walking wounded, and we're at
that point in the season where maybe if we can
go to that expanded year, guys, with the eighteenth game,
we'll get that second by and it gives everybody that
reset time. But I can tell you this, with the
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six team by in week eight, a lot of folks exhaling, thinking,
all right, maybe we can start getting our teams back together. Unfortunately,
on that list, other than Kyler Murray, everybody else is
healthy at the quarterback position. They may not be good,
but they're healthy at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Well, I think that you take Arizona and it's the
question I'm going to pose with Carolina. Do we have
the same effect. I mean, the Cardinals offense over these
past couple of weeks and then it win. But they
took the Colts down on the wire, and they had
every opportunity to beat Green Bay. And if you maybe
play a fourth down, play a little little bit smarter
than instead of going for it, just punting it away
(17:03):
and letting your defense do the work. You maybe have
a different outcome for Arizona. But Jacoby Brissett has been
fine yep, And I'm wondering if the same is going
to happen with Carolina, where we know their running games great, right,
Chib Hubbard comes back, they're still running the ball.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
They go and beat the Jets.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I think this is probably better for you know, a
guy like Ted McMillan, better for Xavier Lagette and those
guys to break through. I expect more from Carolina's offense,
especially with the Bills coming to down on weekend.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yeah, I mean we talk about the Bills defense. Now
they come out of a bye week, Will they have
magically fixed anything? No, I mean they'll be healthier, but
schematically and personnel wise, they're lacking. Curious with two plus
weeks left before the trade deadline, how much activity we get.
I think this is a year where maybe maybe because
of the change of GM's younger, more aggressive guys and
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a lot of these front offices, that maybe we get more.
I mean we've been treated to a couple including Joe
flaccoshow up in Cincinnati. Look what that did for the offense.
I know it's only a one game Sampler, and maybe
we overrated the Pittsburgh defense a little bit because they've
been gashed and certainly didn't surmount much pressure against a
bad offensive line. But all of that to say, the
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veteran's going to go out there because most of these
guys know, hey, this is it. Like I have no
conscience at this point because I'm not worried about losing
my job. Yeah right, I'm a stopgap guy. Maybe I'm auditioning,
like if I'm Kirk Cousins, I'm trying to get unleashed
so I can go start somewhere again if he ends
up getting the nod for Atlanta. But but for these
other guys, they've had their careers, so why not go
(18:37):
wing it around and you can work to timing worked opportunity.
We've seen it with Carson Wentz, how well that's worked
in spots and in situations. From Minnesota the last couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
I think we're going to get a boost with Carolina.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
And I think, as crazy as this sounds, but if
you look at the standings of the NFC, the Panthers
are right in it for the division and for the
wild card. Now there are a bunch of really good
teams right now, because you have three teams in the
NFC West at five and two.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
We've got the Packers sitting.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Atop at four to one and one, but Egos are
five and two, Lions sitting there at five and two,
like your Bears have won four straight, but the Panthers
are going to be in the thick of it, and
they don't have a buy until early December, so you've
now got six games before your bye. We have a
high ankle spraying for Bryce Young. I know Dave Canalyis
(19:31):
is calling it day to day, but we saw what
a high ankle spray with JJ McCarthy has done, especially
when you're maybe not necessarily sold on the quarterback and
you have playoff aspirations. The Panthers have the Bills and
Packers the next two weeks. If they get a win
against one of those teams, You've done have the Saints, Falcons, Niners,
and Rams before your bye, and I think that it's
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an opportunity for Andy Dalton to maybe take the job
for the rest of the season. And that's I think
fantasy improvement for any of the Carolina Panthers that you've got.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Love the idea the balance there, and now it becomes
the question of can you find another option? Right, McMillan's
a guy that we pushed into the stratosphere with some
hot plays, and he's been up in our rankings a bit.
But whether you know it's Cocher, does Legette get a
little bit of juice here and then Sanders or Tremble
(20:23):
maybe get a little bit more love and the tight
end position if your league still uses it, And that'd
be the curiosity to talk to the different site owners
out there when you talk to Yahoo, ESPN, whatever, like,
what are the percentages of leagues that are still using
a flat tight end spot because a lot of weeks
it feels like you're rolling the dice trying to find
some semblance of magic. So touchdown dependent in a lot
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of those. But that's for another time. But I would
agree with you, Dan, I think, and look, who doesn't
love a little bit of QB one getting back out
there a nod to an old Chicago Bears social media post.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Well, it's the resurgent of old guys again.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
As we talked with off the Top, you know, the
Flackow and Rogers matchup. Stafford's been doing his thing and
and you know why not having Andy Dalton getting into
the mix. I joked with our Doug Gottlieb Show group text,
like all the old quarterbacks are good except Russell Wilson.
Like that's well, the fact that we are right now in
week seven of the NFL heading into week.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
Eight, the fact that you had Sean Payton go. I
was kind of hoping we'd see Ruswick right, my goodness,
because I mean that's the other extreme that we have
in week seven, right, we got a bunch of old guys.
And then we watched that fourth quarter. I mean you
would have been on air for this, Dan right with
a end zone radio. I mean, is that not the
most insane quarter you've ever had to chronicle?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
I it was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
It was because it was a game where we weren't
paying attention because of the score. It's nineteen to nothing
going into the fourth quarter. I had the Broncos as
my survivor pick. It was going to be part of
my report card year. I had chocked it up of
all right, we're gonna take one on the chin there.
That's gonna be a tough one.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
When the Broncos scored to make it nineteen to eight,
I thought maybe Okay, well there's a little bit of
time left.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
But when Wandel Robinson had the ball go through his
hands and then it ended up in the bread basket
of the Theo Johnson and he went into the end zone,
I'm like, well, that's it. That's how you know it's
your day if you're the Giants. Deflection through your guy's hands,
goes into his own hands and you get into the
end zone. Not too dissimilar to how the Broncos ended
up scoring theirs. But I just at that point Mike
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thought it was over, and then with five point fifteen
to go, it was still twenty six to eight. So
then the Broncos scored on the next play and they
get their conversion to make it twenty six to sixteen.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
You have the turnover and punts and what an absolute
mess by the way Jackson Dart maybe great, but Jackson
Dart made missed on a bunch of throws that really
could have ended the interception, and a couple of deep
balls that if you just get it to the guy,
game's over and he missed those throws.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Yeah, some of it again goes to the you talk
about throws, but also you.
Speaker 5 (23:11):
Can run the football. I mean he can run, yeah,
but I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
You know what he's already just the way he in
style that he plays, he's going to expose himself to
big hits. We've seen that, like he's taken on would
be tacklers in the middle of the field. Eventually you
learn to see another day. But a design run just
to get it to the outside for three yards and
to run another minute of clock when you're up as
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big as you are. I mean, that's the thing. They
still scored thirteen points in that quarter. We got to
take the kicker off the hook, but but they scored
thirteen points and still found a way to lose.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And Dark made a heck of a play on fourth
to nineteen to get them the first down on that drive.
And then the.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Broncos were nailed for a roughing the passer penalty, which
was atrocious, right, and then you had the pass interference penalty,
which was doubly atrocious. Like I understand Sean Payton getting
a penalty which only measured out to be about eight
inches because of how close they were to the goal line,
so it didn't necessarily matter.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I would have been furious too.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
And as I said, I had survivor action in on it,
So I'm like, you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Call a pass interference on that call? You know?
Speaker 2 (24:24):
That really helped the Giants and I don't know, ball
don't lie. That's why they missed the extra point, and
then Denver is able to get there's an heckt mike.
Even the last drive of Denver, the Marvin Mims catch
at midfield could have been deflected by Courtland Sutton. Sutton's
running his road acrossed. He doesn't get it. It ends up
in the bread basket of Mims to set them up,
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and then they get the off sides call on Brian
Burns to get them another five yards and.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Just craziness.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
Game of inches, man, like all over the place that
the Peyton thing get in the penalty that was just
in but like you said, it was for eight inches. Yeah,
so you might as well go, you know, have your say,
But yeah, that was that was just insane trying to
track that.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
By the way, we were just talking about teams that
aren't like getting it done. Denver's like not getting it
done either, Like there's just there's still something funky. But
when you score thirty three points in the fourth quarter,
you're gonna end up having some numbers. But offensively, I
just I just wonder. It just doesn't seem like they're
running the ball as well as they should have been
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or could be doing. We know Courtland Sutton's good, but
who's gonna be that second guy to really emerge? So
Denver's got some issues. Despite putting up that thirty three
spot in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yeah, you look at JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
This was his best game since going back to that
Monday tilt against the Bengals. A couple of well solid
game but not spectacular against Philadelphia and then the Jets.
For all we can mock them, the defense has actually
shown up, so the side of the ball that your
head coach is supposed to be the expert at. They've
given up twenty six points in the last two weeks.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That should get you a w right.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
I wonder if Glenn has secretly taken play calling duties
from Steve Wilkes without wanting to publicly you know out Yeah,
who knows.
Speaker 7 (26:17):
Just a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
I like it. Let's print that.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I like those conspiracy theories. I don't know if the
Jets stood out to Ian in Week seven, but what
stood out to.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
You Ian, Uh yeah, I mean, well not the Jets,
but division rival the Patriots stood out to me definitely.
I I'm really wondering if they're a playoff team because
which is just crazy to say if you think about
going in, which is wild, Like if you look at
their remaining schedule, I don't want to go through it all.
But like they have the Jets twice, haven't played them yet,
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so that's two free wins. They play the Browns this
coming week, they play they still have to play the Bengals,
the Giants, the Ravens, the Dolphins, like they've got some
cupcake matchups coming up. And that's they already have five
wins on the season. And fun stat for you guys,
Mike Rabel five wins now this season as the Patriots
head coach. Since firing him two years ago, the Titans
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franchise has a total of four wins. Wow, and Rabel
just passed them by beating them.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
It goes to the point made last week.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
That's why I think Callahan got canned what he did
just it was the it was the Mike Rabel homecoming.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
No, it's it right, this was coming back and get
get clear that out of the house, and you know,
as you talked about all of the sideline and antics
and the back and forth in the at the podium
and everything else, it all added up. But Rabel doing
a hell of a job taking advantage of the schedule.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
I mean, that was one of the things.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
If you looked at dark Horse and Drake May has
been everything. Yeah, they hoped he'd be, and that much
more right twenty one twenty.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Three man, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
And like I mean, there are a couple of like
da Mario Douglas had a pretty good catch, but Stefan
Diggs has emerged, Keayshon Boodie shown he can play.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Hunter Henry is still a viable option. It's funny.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
The only the only player to not really get on
track has been Trivion Henderson, who he had, you know,
expected to and we've talked about him recently.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
But I mean, kudos to the Patriots to stick.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
With Romandre Stevenson to being like this is how we
want to play football, and he's become a viable option
for them.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
They they are the real deal.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
They're all over under was eight and a half wins
this year, so there, so if you hit the over
that you think they were nine to eight. I had
them as one of my final wildcard teams in the AFC,
but they are absolutely legit.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
But it just says it turns up the clock for
teams that are also in a first like the Jets,
you know, with like Aaron Glenn trying to preach how
this turnaround takes time. But you see guys like Mike Rabel,
like Liam Cohen come in and right away the teams
look way more competitive than they did the.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
Pre figuring out And it's cliche, but it but it's
that for a reason, right, finding your identity slash culture,
whatever term you want to throw on, and they all
kind of go into a blender.
Speaker 5 (29:11):
But you gotta gotta have a vision.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Right With Jacksonville, they decided, all right, well I might
be the quarterback whisper and I did some great things
with Baker, but unless we can run the football, like
Trevor's not that guy, right, because we're still trying to
figure out who their.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Number two receiver is, right, which right?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I mean, how much did they make of that at
halftime of that game yesterday? Zero defensive snaps like that
was the big deal?
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Right?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
It was all offense all the time, made a couple
of big plays, left a couple on the field. All
of that to say, you know, you're trying to figure
out that second guy. Go up to where New England
is and Dan, you hit it on the head with
with the Henderson Stevenson is like, they paid Stevenson a
lot of money and they're gonna go down swinging ball.
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Security issues might still get him in the end, but
I've decided he's whatever that separation is, whatever Henderson isn't
doing in practice, or they're not seeing or they don't
trust him in past situations, all of that plays into
this is your guy. But in Rabel, it's kind of
like going back to the Dan Campbell whatever brash. You
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may not love it, you may not like it stylistically,
but if the players buy in, it's winning football.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeah, And I think I think Romandre Stevenson runs how
Mike Vrabel wants his team to be and that's why
he's so valuable.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Where Yeah, if.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He's fumbling the football, it's going to become an issue,
but he's so physical and he gives them that sort
of edge and then allows Drake May to go twenty
one of twenty three and hit his guy it's it's
truly something. By the way, to the point, I know
Ian wasn't trying to say this, but like Rabel is
almost a one of one. We're right in talking about
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him and the Dan Campbell sort of thing. I think
they do things differently in how they do it. Yeah,
but I think that's the frustrating thing about this is
I'm convinced, guys that half the coaches in the NFL
really don't know what they're doing. Oh, I agree, you know,
like it sounds, it sounds very flippant, but like to
understand like it's just it's meant to be a compliment
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to the top half of the coaches as opposed to
those who are in the bottom half.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
No, that's it. I mean we'll look.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
We opened by talking about some of the situational conundrums
of Monday night, right, confusing coaching decisions and down distance
timeout clock management, which we do each and every week.
But you know, we sit here as we're taping late
on a Monday night at West Coast time, like, there's
how many coaches that you're looking at, going, all right,
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did they get in past week?
Speaker 5 (31:51):
Eight? Right?
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I mean, you know, you look at Mike McDaniel Aaron Glenn.
Do they decide to just say, Okay, we're done. That'd
be one hell of a combo for a team to
hire as coordinators.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
Though.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
I mean, I thought McDaniel was going to get the
acts on Monday, I really did. I was surprised that
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Do.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
You guys, see the clip of Quin Yeers coming off
the field after his first few snaps in mcgame.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Just didn't even look at him.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You didn't acknowledge him. Not a slap on the shoulders.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
These are the little things at the margin that separate
great coaches.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
You know.
Speaker 6 (32:25):
It's like, just be a player's coach. Support your guy.
He just went in started his NFL career.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Give him some love.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
It's just so they're sticking with Tua. And by the way,
I do want to say this, it's not that I
would know how to run an NFL team, Yeah exactly.
You know, so when I say, like the coaches don't
know what they're doing, it's not meant to sound as
disrespectful as it's coming off of. But I just I
just think like a guy like Vray Bold just he
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has it. He has something that not every coach has. Like, look,
at Brian Callahan. You know, it's just he doesn't have it.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
But like verybo lost a personality thing, right, you install
a new GM ownership decides in that vacuum and what
they were doing in the transition that the GM wins
that battle.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, didn't want a J. Brown traded, They traded AJ
Brown and then the trickle down effect. No matter what
I think of a J. Brown still, it's kind of
the domino effect. A Mike's a week seven standout stuff
to you, except from what we've we've hit on.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
Well, we've hit that point where I mean, look winning
ugly from a real and fantasy standpoint, right, you know
you look at your Seahawks on Monday night and it's
Jack's it's jsn Right, it's his show.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
I go back to the Bears.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
Defense scored fifteen points, right, I picked him up in
a league just looking at my.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
Other option streaming defense is this right?
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I mean, it's just turnovers, It's and I joked about it,
you know, the Lovey Smith angle of it last week.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
So that's it. Right. We're trying to.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
Steal points wherever we can in these leagues, and certainly
we've got enough offenses that can't get out of their
own way Vegas, Miami, et cetera.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
The Jets.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
So you're going to have that opportunity to go and
steal those extra couple of points. You may be, you know,
without that extra running back. And certainly we've got enough
injuries between the wide receiving quarterback position that it's going
to be a veritable gold rush on the waiver wire
for Week eight. But it's just that, like we've now
settled into we know what these teams are, go and
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find the weak lambs and lead them to the slaughter.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
I will also say this, I think that we look
at Ben Johnson with your Bears. It's coming in and
being like, all right, what trick plays is he going
to do? You know, when's he going to have the
guard drop back and run a flee flicker with you know,
sure Colston Loveland, but just to get the running game,
just to get DeAndre Smith swift and what he's been
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able to do. I mean, he's over one hundred yards
on Sunday. If you can get that sorted out, it
makes things a lot easier for capable.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Well that's just it, right, he doesn't need to be
a world beater at one seventy two zero in one.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
I look, he was one of my misses.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Thought it was an opportunity for them to put up
some points, take advantage of expecting the defense to do
what it really did. But he wasn't the beneficiary. He
didn't make it play in the passing games. So that look,
if you listen to the post game, I guarantee it,
you guys will not find a post game in any
city better than Dan Hampton and ed Obradovich, because even
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if they win by two touchdowns like they win here
twenty six fourteen, you'd still think they lost by forty like.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
It is the best. Yeah, yeah, and that event.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Occasionally you'll hear you can almost hear the paper of
the producer saying, remind people that the Bears won, because
the way you've talked for the last fifteen minutes, you
would have thought it was a blood the other way. Curiosity, though,
is moning guy getting the thirteen carries for eighty one
yards he did. He's someone we talked about a little
bit in the preseason, flashed a bit for him. It
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now looks like he's firmly supplanted Rashawn Johnson and anybody
else as a number two, and the fact that they
relied on the run game as much as they did
is impressive. Obviously, we know that's what Ben Johnson would
love to do given that time in Detroit, but to
actually be able to commit to it. And I'll give
DeAndre Swift credit. I put him only as a ninja
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instead of a hot play last week because I didn't
trust that they'd do it. So they did good on
them and they got runs over twenty yards from both
of those guys, So that was encouraging, not just Hey,
I'm going to Baltimore hoping that they have some semblance
of an offense, and then we'd be remiss if we
didn't at least acknowledge. The Chiefs are looking scary again.
Speaker 7 (36:55):
For Shure Rice two touchdowns in his first game back.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Well, I mean they treat they treated him like you know,
he was scorn and I'm so mad at myself because
I had him in my lineup guys, but I replaced
him with Mike Evans because hey, Evans is coming back
Monday night. The Lions don't have a secondary. Sure, I
took out Rashie Rice to put in Mike Evans, and
I should have known, especially with the Raiders in town
that they would have tried to do it. They did
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to get Rashie Rice the football. Yeah, I'm in an
err on that.
Speaker 4 (37:23):
One seven of ten, forty two and two so red
zone efficiency. Talk about what nine guys with at least
one reception for Kansas City but an offense over the
last month, that's been fantastic, the defense stuff getting Look,
the Raiders stink. There's no to if Andrew Butts I
think I was driving up and Daniel Jeremiah still licking
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his wounds from what happened to the Chargers, because that's
a whole other kettle of fish, as it were, because
they were absolutely decimated and destroyed in that matchup against
the Colts. First quote, real team. Maybe for the Colts
that we say, hey, they went and put a herding on,
because we have a lot of dismissiveness about their schedule
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early on. But the fact that the Raiders, this is
something Jeremiah said in real time, possessed the ball for
less than five minutes if you just watched it together,
like without the you know, forty seconds of stoppage and
whatever else, right that runs.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
They had three first downs and it was the fourth quarter,
Geno Smith had sixty seven yards passing. It was Oh,
by the way, they finished with three first downs. They
didn't even get one.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
It's brought Flowers, the MVP at the NFL eight seven seven.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
My goodness.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I just saw the stat and I wrote it down
on my notes, and like, they've got three first downs
and it's the fourth quarter, and because it was a blowout,
I didn't pay much attention. And now I just went
to the team stats. They finished with three first downs. Oh,
my goodness.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Once that's amazing, right, but in ninety five total yards.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Oh man, the Raiders logo wish he had patches over
both eyes so he wouldn't have to watch that crap.
Speaker 7 (39:09):
Chip Kelly should have just stayed at Ohio.
Speaker 5 (39:11):
No, he's getting paid six million dollars for this.
Speaker 6 (39:14):
You look at Matt Patricia now at Ohio State, like
these failed head coaches should just stay in college and there's.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
A place to be. You get to you know, you
get to coach the kids that are well paid now
as well. Uh tell you what the Ohio State running
game may need, Chip Kelly. Actually, then they quinch On
Judkins and Trevion Anderson again. But that's another story. All right,
that's that's kind of our look at week seven. We'll
have more on this on our next episode. And just
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stuff popping up in the league. What's gonna happen with
Jayden Daniels and the Commanders, maybe some of the fears there,
and and and what's ahead as we start to get
into the heavy buys. But speaking of the heavy buys,
Mike's gonna have your waiver wire picks coming up four
week eight, plus we'll do our report card check on
what hit and what missed. I'm afraid to say I
may have swung mightily and came up with a lot
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of air on the points of Palooza, but we'll talk
about it next year on I WAT your Flex. All right, Mike,
let's get to the waiver wire for week eight, because
again there are six teams on buy something a little
different as the Jaguar, Seahawks, Cardinals, Rams, Raiders and Lions
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all will have the week off.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Who we picking up in week.
Speaker 4 (40:28):
Eight, Well, we're going deep down the rabbit hole, right.
We already talked about monding guy with his fifteen touches
game against the Ravens. That defense didn't get healthy suddenly
after a bye week. So there we talk about al
Gier going up against Miami, just talking about game situation.
I have no idea what kind of effort we're getting
from Miami. I never want to talk about heart and
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quitting from NFL teams, but they're just not good even
if that max efforts. So expecting the run game there
to have a big day.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
R J.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Harvey showed up towards the end, He's still virtually unowned.
And it's the kind of thing we talk about Dobbins
for the long haul. I mean, now we're playing the
long game here of making sure we're shoring up. That
brings us to Spears as well. Keaton Mitchell, is he
a member of the Ravens or is he a guy
that gets them a defensive helper along the way. Not
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quite sure. Brishard Smith mentioned him five catches forty two
yards as part of what's going on in Kansas City.
Look beyond Rashid Rice. Not sure what the workload is
for all of these guys, and that's includes Travis Kelce
as to how much he's kind of in mothballs till
they need him for a stretch run. But when we
look at the run game and trying to find a
little diamond in the rough. We go there, talk about Houston,
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not sure what Nico Collins' status for next week will be,
but left with a concussion. That was what we were told.
So when we look at Houston, you're looking at Dalton Schultz.
You're looking at Jalen Noel who ended up with seven targets,
four catches, seventy seven yards, rookie out of Iowa State.
So perhaps an opportunist there. Romeo Dobbs eleven catches for
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one hundred and twenty seven yards the last two weeks.
He's still unowned in about forty percent of league. So
perhaps a guy you can go find Aronde Gadston if
we want to go take a deeper view here. Already
mentioned Dalton Schultz is the tight end. Well, let's keep
going because guys with bigger shares that are going to
be big parts of the offense. Pat Fryermuth had that
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big game against Cincinnati. Hang it with you know, a
little star on it that it's the Bengals. But also
we know Aaron Rodgers loves his tight end position. Historically
he's healthy. Yeah, you might have those games where he's
the lesser between he and John new Smith. But there
will be the opportunities where everybody plays, everybody wins. Now
quickly back to the quarterbacks. For whatever reason, people have
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been reticent to add Jackson Dart. They don't know why
he's still out there in a bunch of leagues. Flacco's
got the Jets revenge game, anybody.
Speaker 3 (43:01):
No, Yeah? Good?
Speaker 4 (43:03):
A lot of them, yeah, exactly at this point, a
lot of jerseys up. He could make a quilt like
my daughter's doing with all the old concert shirts. Sauces
banged up. May or may not be available for this one.
But even if he is five hundred and fifty yards
five touchdowns the last two weeks for Flacco, Look, he's
got two wide outs that you could just throw it
up and go get it. And I know that we
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talk about coaches and where that line of demarcation is.
Certainly we have that for quarterback play. We talked if
he were able to go PANDIX would be a good start. Well,
now it's Kirk Cousins again. Speculative pickup play, Rogers going
up against the old team of Green Bay. Yeah, sign
me up for that one. And then the Andy Dalton
Fest against Buffalo, assuming at least for one week that
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he gets a run.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Green Bay three and a half point favorite that I'm
looking at right now. That surprised me a little bit
for Sunday Night.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
But well, I think some of it.
Speaker 4 (43:58):
I mean in that defense, yeah, and man, the pass rush,
and they had a couple of weeks in a row
of five sack games to help push it. But you
know that secondary can be had. That maybe just the
veteran acumen and the idea that that Aaron Rodgers is
just a salty curmudgeon. I mean, look out what Maddy
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got at the offensive lineman that jumped on him.
Speaker 3 (44:20):
Yeah, right, yeah, that was really funny. I get it, though.
Speaker 5 (44:25):
I agree. I'm forty years old. Man, come on.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
I'll tell you what. Watching the Seahawks, this popped into
my head. I was like, you know, watching Donald make
some bad throws, like, you know, if Aaron Rodgers makes
the good throws that Sam Donald was, maybe you know,
Rogers wouldn't throw the interceptions. And then I remembered the
chuck up to the begels.
Speaker 3 (44:48):
And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. He still does
that every once in a while.
Speaker 5 (44:52):
Yeap, hey, go get it, Fellas.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah, it is here it is. By the way, the
lines four week eight, there are just four games on
the schedule with a line of three and a half
or less. Everything is north of that, so we may
have some one sided affairs, or it could be the
NFL and everything flips over on its head.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
For week eight, just what you think you got it
figured out?
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Yes, yes, let's do our report cards quick. We'll start
with Ian, we'll work through me and Mike. You can
wrap it up with your report card. How the streaming
defenses work for week seven?
Speaker 6 (45:25):
In Yeah, Mike, you mentioned it earlier in the show.
But yeah, Chicago Bears they ended up getting you fifteen
fantasy points, only allowed fourteen points on the day, got
three interceptions, a fumble recovery, and four sacks. Jacksonville Jaguars
had a negative negative.
Speaker 7 (45:41):
One fantasy points. We'll skip over that one really quick.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Then Carolina Panthers they got you sixteen fantasy points. Six
points allowed on the day, two interceptions and six sacks.
So Panthers and Bears were great plays for you. The
Jaguars will just gloss over that one's yeah, minus one
not great day for them, but the other two awesome.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
But I give you a lot of credit.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (46:03):
I just want to make this point because this is
a fight I used to have with a lot of
football players before they realized how much money fantasy really
brought to their pockets. Was like, how do you pick
Like you're a Chicago guy, how could you pick up
Brett Fahr? Like pretty easy? Nobody's getting shut out? Like
shutouts are rare, okay, Jets sho or Raiders or whatever.
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But the idea is like, if they're going to score
twenty two points a game or whatever it is, might
as well be on my team.
Speaker 7 (46:30):
Yeah, might as well be a benefactor.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
Right.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
So you saying, hey, Caroline, against the Jets, you learned
that lesson very very early, something that I think people
still grapple with.
Speaker 2 (46:41):
Well, I did pick up the Bears defense as a
streaming defense, so they helped me.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
This week.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
I just benched the Texans because they were going up
against my Seahawks, and Sam Donald and the Seahawks made
it a more of a field day than I would
have liked in that matchup. But yeah, the streaming defense
advice of the Panthers and Bears definitely hit.
Speaker 3 (47:00):
So we'll just forget about the Jaguars.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Just like we're gonna forget about my points of palooza,
where I don't even know if I mentioned it in
the podcast. I had it written down it was Falcons Niners,
So if I didn't mention it, I'm glad that I didn't,
but that would have.
Speaker 3 (47:14):
Been an absolute miss.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
Again, I can't take the highest point totals each week,
so I tried to look a little below. I just
thought maybe that the Falcons would be worn out because
of the short week and the long travel they were,
But they then only put up ten points against the
depleted forty nine Ers team, but a heck of a
game for Christian.
Speaker 3 (47:31):
McCaffrey Survivor wise guys. Outside of the Steelers losing on
Thursday Night status quo. Through Week seven, everybody advanced yes
you have.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
The Packers were popular, Chiefs were popular, The Broncos were
a popular pick. So that thirty three point fourth quarter,
including in one of my entries, that was the one
that I thought was the sure thing the question marks
that I said, if you really wanted to play, and
you really wanted to play Survivor, right, you could go
Bears and Browns. They were both winners. I actually wish
(48:02):
I would have listened to my own advice. At the end,
I took out the Browns and put the Patriots in
Cardinal Sin. I apologize, but everybody advanced. So a lot
of people still alive heading into Week eight of Survivor
because there just wasn't much carnage in week seven.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, that Brown's went tough, though I could see that
that toggle going. Do I really trust him? It's there
for us, It's there.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
I gave the reasoning on the pod, the weather, the
Browns unit home game, the whole deal, and just how
much of a mess the Dolphins were. But I just
thought there's no way Rabel is losing his return. And
I didn't think that there would be a way. And
I mentioned this on Sunday that the Broncos would lose
when they are inducting Damarius Thomas into the Ring of Honor.
(48:47):
And I'm telling you what. I don't know what you believe,
but I'm thinking Denver had a little extra on their
side Sunday. Believe whatever you want, but my goodness to
have that come back against the Giants on that day
quite the story.
Speaker 5 (49:03):
One of my favorites.
Speaker 4 (49:04):
And watching the you know Peyton Manning interview and some
of those other things. Man, that's whenever we get into
you know, the in look sports talk radio hot take nonsense,
forgetting about the human element in the in the locker
rooms and what these guys really mean to each other.
I just advise folks, go find the Peyton Manning clip. Yeah,
(49:25):
whether you like the Manning cast or tired of him
on commercials, whatever, the guy you know talking about his
relationship with DT and everything was just next level stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Absolutely, Mike, what did you gosh looking at your wide receivers?
Speaker 3 (49:42):
Hit hit hit hit hit. My goodness, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
We we had.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
We had a good run, right, CD came back in
Grand Faction. We talked about JSN and I'm on Rossaint Brown,
DeVante Adams with a big day, So we get our
victories there. Brian Thomas leaves us wanting as he he's
want to do, but we survive. Running back wise, you know,
Vijon found the end zone, but not necessarily the fireworks
(50:08):
that we were hoping for. McCaffrey picked up for us.
Josh Jacobs, who scared us a little bit with that
report that he was a true game time decision. I'll
never believe the words true game time decision. Again, if
the word true shows up, the guy is gonna play,
and he's gonna play in big, big fashion. Javonte Williams
finish as a top ten guy for us as well
(50:29):
Jonathan Taylor. I mean, what else is there to say
about what that offense did to that Chargers defense. I
think that should be outlawed, and it might actually be
in a couple of states. We look at Dak and
may and Hertz and Mahomes all finished strong for us.
Mayfield left us wanting, and Jade Daniels left unfortunately in
(50:50):
what could have been a big spot. But you know,
look at the Cowboys rolling things up, and then Jared
Goff tepid at best. From our hot plays, Cold Soars
and Ninja's Bone Nicks Daniel Jones find find their way
to QB one status. Addison had a big day for
Shee Rice in his return gave us some love as
well as Judkins Cold Soars right. I mean, I feel
(51:14):
like I'm cheating putting two on any list at this point,
so I won't do that again. And Juwan Jennings was
was a also ran the Ninjas swift we mentioned him
and Stevenson still giving us some love. We mentioned Tees Johnson,
so I'll take the victories. As for the Els, gave
a couple in the top fives, but Caleb Williams gave
(51:35):
me nothing. Kamara gave me nothing. Against the Bears, it
was all Chris o'lave go, buck ass, Jackson Dart I
had as a cold star, thinking, hey, Denver will contain him.
Speaker 5 (51:46):
No, they won't.
Speaker 4 (51:48):
Likewise, camp Scadavo did his thing. DeVante Smith one of
your biggest scores of the week, so still trying to
figure out what the hell the Eagles are at this point.
And then I had Michael Pittman down. He finished as
a number two, so good on him. Justin Fields as
a ninja, you were right to call me out and
call me an idiot, so you both get extra cheese
(52:08):
at a date to be determined. So yeah, we hit
more than we missed, but a couple of big swings
that left me us smarting, no question.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Well, I think, all in all though, is a pretty
good week for you on the especially with the rankings.
I think you and basically your top four we're golden
for what we had a week ago. Hopefully we can
carry that momentum into week eight again. Six teams on buys,
so prepare accordingly. We're going to dive into that and
so much more as we start to hit the get
(52:40):
towards the middle of the season. There's also a trade
deadline coming up that could be a factor as well.
All topics we're going to dive into here and I
want your flex. So for our executive producer Ian Roddy
and Mike Harmon, I'm Dan Byer. We hope you had
success in week seven. Can't wait to talk to you
more than week eight. Here and I want your flex.
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