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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome to a very different kind of podcast.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon from The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon here on Fox Sports Radio. Getting to talk
to somebody who, for I can sum it up just
by saying this, she has changed both of our lives
with PhD weight loss. Doctor Ashley Lucas is the owner
and founder of PhD Weight Loss in the supplement line
(00:22):
PhD in Sports Nutrition Chronic Disease. Also a former professional
ballet dancer. Doctor Ashley, you're such a badass. I think
you can be in the new John Wick movie is Ballerina,
because that's impact you've had on our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That's all right, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So we've been doing PHDW weight loss Mike and I
now since the beginning of the year. We're both over
forty pounds that we've lost. We feel great. This is
a program that was brand new to us. You've now
helped over ten thousand people nationwide achieve remarkable success, collectively
shedding more than three hundred and sixty six thousand pounds.
And when I heard about PhD weight loss, I said,
(01:00):
this sounds like a great idea, and Harmon and I
said yeah, let's go, let's go do it, and I
mean it. It has changed our lives. So the first
thing I want to say is thank you very much
for what you've been doing for us.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh my gosh, my pleasure and congratulations you guys. I
always say that the best plan on Earth only works
if you work it, and that's what you guys have
done to drop forty pounds each and still going.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, we keep each other honest, you know, we monitor
what we're what we're in taking, what we're here in
the studios, and certainly the process has helped having someone
to work along with it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, definitely. What's the difference that you guys feel forty
pounds down?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh, I'm so fat, I am so lightning fast. I
can first step down at better. My forty yard dash
is down to about three point two seconds. No, I
honestly I feel across the board. I'm sleeping better. I
don't need naps as much as I used to. My
energy level is higher. I don't have cravings for food
(02:01):
that I used to eat all the time. I would
default to a bag of potato chips or or something chocolate.
I don't have that anymore. I'm eating less and I'm
feeling more fulfilled, like it has checked every box across
the board from you, Mike, what about you?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
My joints are better nice now, my shoulders still a mess.
We joke about that on the show a lot. Eventually
there's a surgery there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Jone.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
She can do everything, She'll do it for you. She
could do that too.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, I didn't know that, doctor Ashley. I have to
see a certification before I can do that one. But no, certainly,
my knees have always been an issue in the hips
carrying the extra weight, so losing that has certainly helped.
And you get to go into more stylish stuff because
you go down a size of clothes. I mean, Smith,
you could speak to that too, other than your met stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, yeah, it's now it's mets gear. That's a lot,
looks a lot, a lot easier to buy. I don't
have to worry about all this double X and more.
It's fantastic stuff now, doctor Ashley. First thing, let's get
everybody caught up. Tell us the philosophy behind PhD weight
loss and where this came from and the genesis to
where it is right now.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sure, well, as you guys shared, I come from a
unique background. I was a professional ballet dancer, which really
is a very intense sport. I think you guys need
to cover yeah, and so man, I was just injured
all the time. There's significant aesthetic demands. I was required
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to be really lean. My body didn't naturally conform, it
didn't follow suit like all of the other girls. So
I chronically under eate. I starved myself. I didn't eat
red meat. I didn't eat fat, because they told us
that if you eat red meat and you eat fat,
you get fat and on the healthy so I did
all the things I was told to do, but I
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was injured all the time. I had a stress fracture
in my back and I still deal with the pain
from that. I had stress fractures in my feet. But
I was fairly successful because like most athletes, I was
super disciplined and I was obsessed and so passionate around
the sport in the art form. So I danced with
companies across the nation. I was selected to perform in
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New York City, you know every dancer's dream. But instead
of finding myself in the spotlight and these once in
a lifetime performances, I landed myself in the er. I
had no idea what was going on with my health. Yeah,
I was so afraid. I thought I was having a
heart attack. But after a whole bunch of tests, the
doctors came back and just said I was underfed, I
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was over exercised, and I could not keep going. So
to me, that was a huge deal. It was twenty
plus years of struggle and sacrifice, just like you know
the football players you guys talk about just who have
dedicated their entire lives to the sport. It was like
Michael Felts being pulled off before his Olympic swim. I
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was at that level, probably top one percent of dancers
in the US, which is super competitive, and I just
couldn't do it anymore. So I had an identity crisis.
I didn't know what to do, but I understood how
significantly nutrition impacted my sport performance. So I went back
to school. I earned my PhD in Sports Nutrition and
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Chronic Disease, and I studied exactly that energy metabolism. How
do we optimize our body composition without chronically starving ourselves
and ruining our metabolism in our body. So I, after
that went on to earn my registered dietitian credentials because
I thought to be a true expert in the field
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of weight management, I needed to be a registered dietitian
as well as a PhD. But there was a problem.
During my internship and all my work becoming a dietitian,
I learned all the stuff that I had implemented that
did not work for me. They told me I needed
to tell people to eat less and move more, to
eat six to eleven servings of grain, to avoid red meat,
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to not eat the fat. And I knew I did
that as a dancer, and it did not work for me.
I was still too fat. I was injured all the time.
So I ended up flipping everything I learned upside down,
took all my research, put it all together and started
working with athletes. And I worked with x you know, football,
collegiate level, NFL level football players, Olympic level swimmers, gymnasts,
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martial artists, cross country skiers. I lived in Durango, Colorado
at the time and worked with a lot of athletes,
and I found what had a significant impact on their
sport performance had a more profound impact on those of
us struggling with excess fat weight and so that's how
I created the PhD approach. We've got lots of brick
and mortar offices and a huge nationwide over the phone
(06:41):
at home presence where like you said, we've served over
ten thousand people and have helped people drop massive weight
and most importantly keep it off naturally.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, you're working with two Olympic level eaters in Mike
and I.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
What you've done with us it has been as like
I said, it's been astounding. Now the PhD mets it
incorporates five steps. Can you just kind of quickly run
through what those five steps are?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, So, first of all, we need to get rid
of the beer gut, the spare tire. You know, that
belly fat. That belly fat most of us don't understand,
actually keeps us fat. And so I always say that
weight gain isn't our fault. Even if you guys were
Olympic level eaters, it was not your fault. So what
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happens I find is we have these triggers in our life,
and these triggers change the way that we tolerate our food.
So for most men, a trigger is usually kind of
something stressful in their lives, like a marriage or a
divorce or a job change. I don't know. If you
guys think about what happened in your life when you
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started to pack on the extra pounds, it was probably
something stressful.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
One percent.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm a Mets and Jets fan. They can stress took it.
I'm taking like.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Larger light issue as he immediately goes out my teams.
You just watching the Jets every night, although I have
watched him over the last decade, Doc Doctor Ashley, and yeah,
he he lives and dies with every pitch.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think maybe I won't start watching.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'll start watching more ballet and I can yell you
know that plea was terrible, that plea was awful.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I start holding up cards with numbers on, like you're
a judge.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's all right, So so waity.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm I'm impressed that you know the word plea.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, well, you know, hey, hey, I gotta know some
stuff right uh now, the PhD method, Like we're going
to get into now the nuts and bolts of it,
because the way you set up the meals that we
eat every couple of hours.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The snacks that that are there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's start with the most important meal of the day
because breakfast is what kicks off PhD weight loss. What
to eat and what not to eat for breakfast. I
think some people might be surprised at some of the
things that you have on that list and what you
supply for it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, the most important thing to think for breakfast is savory.
Most of us go in and eat breakfast it's cereal
with skim milk and a banana, which, by the way,
is like the worst breakfast you can eat for or
worst thing you can eat for breakfast. Instead, we want
to focus on savory, say like eggs and bacon, or
my husband always does eggs and ground beef. That's one
(09:21):
of his favorites. Maybe some Greek yogurt like full fat
or low fat, nothing non fat, nothing diet, but like
real Greek yogurt with maybe some berries, some nuts and
seas and some eggs and some bacon. I don't know
what about you guys. What did you guys eat before
you started with PhD for breakfast?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Chocolate chip pancakes?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Breakfast? Breakfast was a sporadic thing syrup to where for
me it would then become you to overcompensate, need a
larger lunch.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, well, those types of breakfast just trigger constant cravings
and overeating and binging. So we really want to focus
on the right type of fuel and at PhD we
guide you on exactly what, when, and how much to eat.
It's super easy to follow, super precise, and it's a
very simple plan to follow.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Now, one of the things for me that you brought
up was the idea of you know, it's your fault,
shame and that kind of eating and found myself in
those habits and through this process have eliminated some of that.
You know, for me, it was more okay, I've got
a program, But getting folks in the starting gate, I
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guess is the question for me, What do you find
is the the impetus that gets folks to the front door.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Usually they're at threshold. Their desire to change significantly outweighs
their desire to stay the same. And once they hit
their threshold, it could be there having a kid, I
mean like, I cannot be that like this and unhealthy.
I'm pre diabetic, I've had high blood pressure, I've got
sleep apnea, or maybe they've got grandkids on the way,
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or maybe they've been told from their doctor that they're
pre diabetic or diabetic, and they're just over it. So
usually it's something that happens in our life that allows
us to have this really strong why and when people
enter in with this desire to change man, the transformation
is amazing. So we talked a little bit about the
fact that weight gain isn't our fault, but I didn't
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go fully into it. So this belly fat that we
started talking about, we go through this stressful trigger. It
changes the way we tolerate food and we start to
pack on the pounds in the belly, that thick belly gut,
beer gut, and out. Over time, this type of fat
that's seeped down in the belly, it's called visceral fat,
actually grows its own blood vessels, it gets its own
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oxygen supply, and it starts to secrete hormones. So that belly,
that gut that you guys have is this thing that
just wants to grow and get fatter and fatter as
fast as possible. And one of the hormones that secretes
is called aromatase, which takes your testosterone and converts it
into estrogen. So as a guy carrying this belly fat,
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you've actually got low tea levels, high estrogen, and you're
going to continue to gain fat in the belly, the chest,
the throat, and the face area because of the higher
estrogen levels, which puts you at really high risk of
high blood pressure and sleebacnia. So what we do at
PhD is we focus on getting rid of this beer gut,
getting rid of the deep belly fat that's like kryptonite
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that's linked to type two diabetes and cancer and inflammation
and joint pain. One of the reasons why you guys
don't have joint pain anymore is one we reduce the
force going through the joints, but also we reduce the
amount of inflammation being secreted by these fat cels. These
It's just super important for people to understand that this
belly fat just wants to grow. It's active, it's like
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a tumor, and if we don't get rid of it,
if you just drop a few pounds, it's just a
matter of time until it eats its way back up again.
So that's why I say, you know, weight gain isn't
your fault. That's all driven by this hormonal situation, low testosterone,
high estrogen, and we've got to make a switch in
that and that's really what we focus on. And I
know you had mentioned joint pain. For every pound of
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fat weight that we're caring, it's about four pounds of
force pushing through the hip per single pound. In the knee,
it's about five pounds of forest pushing through the knee,
and then then the foot in the ankle, it's eight
pounds of excess force pushing through the joint. So it's
a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
One thing I really like, and you kind of alluded
to it right there, is about being able to get
rid of the belly fat because you see results right away.
Right Mike and I each lost over seven pounds the
first week, and right for that, I was like, yes,
I'm in, like like any any kind of hesitation or no,
I'm in. I lost seven pounds this first week. And
the buy in is really easy. You outline all the meals,
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you outline what you can eat, you know the food
that you get. You get eighty percent of your food.
And I also liked it right away. You trusted everybody
to say I have one meal a day that's out,
go out to a restaurant. You have all the list
of all the things you can have at restaurants, all
different mom and pop restaurants or chain restaurants, Like, yeah,
go out and have one and have a meal a
day like you normally would, and that kind of keeps
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you on a diet where yes, you're following PhD weight loss,
but you're also getting some of the normal of going
out and having something or having something. You are going
to a restaurant or eating something that kind of what
you would normally have, And I.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Think I think that's just a genius part of this.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, it's all about becoming self sufficient. So, like you said,
we like to provide about eighty percent of the food
and there's no additional cost to it. It's just there
as a tool. You don't have to use it if
you don't want to, but about ninety seven percent of
our clients do. And we supply most of breakfast, most
of your lunch, some snacks. But like you said, that
dinner meal is your responsibility because you need to learn,
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and we teach you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And guide you.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Take out guide dining out guides like you can go
anywhere and we help you. Every week. You have one
on one coaching with your specific nutritionists and they guide
you and teach you what you're doing for dinner, make
it really simple. If you don't cook, it's no problem,
there's no excuses. And then as we go we gradually
release any of the food that you've been using, so
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you learn to do lunch on your own and breakfast
and snack, so by the time you get rid of
that belly fat, you're totally sufficient and you understand exactly
what you need to do, so you can actually keep
the weight off for good.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, and for folks that are pondering this, one of
the big things talking to the nutritionists is a you're traveling,
all right, let me help you, you know, in terms
of the eating out, not just off of what what
has already been established, but also the idea of, hey,
actively seeking out options for you in where you're going,
which I think is a huge help because there is.
(15:44):
For me, it's been a bit of trepidation in that
eating out process. Jason's more in the social aspect of that.
Normally I cook at home, so that step forward has
been huge for me, and the nutrition is certainly helping
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's great, that's the goal. You can travel, you
can dine out, you can live a hectic, busy lifestyle.
And still be able to see success. And most of
our men drop about three to four pounds a week.
Most of our women are two to three pounds. So
it's really fast and it's healthy, sustainable because we don't
use any kind of supplements or medications, you actually drop
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weight quickly, naturally without hunger cravings. I mean you guys
can attest to that, correct Like you have not been
hungry or have had significant cravings throughout the journey.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I hope not?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
No. I mean I wake up hungry every day, which
is great because as you've told me, hey, your metabolism's going.
When you wake up hungry, go break the fast. And
that's been a great thing for me. But outside of that,
I can't tell you how many times I would walk
by my cabinet and go, I'm a little hungry, and
while I'm deciding what to eat, I'll have like a
handful of potato chips, or I'll have two chocolate chip
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cookies that are you know, one hundred and sixty calories
and sugar and fat, and I'm still hungry and I
just start mindlessly eating. And I don't do that anymore.
And just how easy it was to get used to
that Doctor Ashley is amazing because I thought, how am
I going to cut these cravings?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
How's it going to happen? But I mean it. The
buy in.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
For PhD is so easy, and I want to say,
after like three days, I felt, hey, yeah, no, I
got this. I get this, and I get when to
have the snacks and what to have here, and all
of a sudden, I felt like an expert.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean I'm not a nutrition Wow, Like I kind
of felt.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like I said, yeah, I got this down, and that's
like that gets you past any mental hurdle you have that. Okay, No,
after a couple of days, I got it. I got
this diet, I got the schedule, I got what I'm eating.
But let's go, let's go forward. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, And it's not like you have to eat what
I call rabbit food. I think most of us think
weight loss, we think diet, we think being vegan, we
think salads with grilled chicken, and you actually get to
eat butter and steak if you want to. It's not
a ketogenic diet, but it's more kind of of an
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ancestral way of eating, like real food in the way
that it comes from the earth Earth, And as a
result of that, we do a lot of work on
breaking food addictions. It's not for all of our clients,
but a lot of us are addicted to food because
of you know, the way Big food has made these foods.
That there's lots of talk in the news right now
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about banning food dies and you know, getting rid of
seed oils, which I do love the discussion and the
focus around because our food has been made to be
addictive and we're really the boots on the ground helping
people break free from these addictions and the cravings are gone,
the hunger is gone, better, mental clarity, like we really
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are able to get the body back to the way
it's naturally supposed to operate, and it's liberating.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
You know, doctor.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the thing about the food, I think let's go
over some of the food that's available, some of the
food that you send out, because yeah, I think people
are probably shocked by going, wait, you can have steak
and butter.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, you got to have the right fats at every meal.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And I mean in my food and the food choices
you have, it's pancakes and blueberry pancakes, and it's sloppy
Joe's and it's chicken noodle soup, and like, this is
the variety of stuff that makes it easy to say, Okay,
I'm gonna have chicken noodle soup and a snack for lunch,
and you know, just go over some of the foods
that you have available that you've been able to find
that that really help people that they feel like, hey,
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I'm having this diet, I'm still having a lot of
the stuff that I normally would have.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, that's why I've created it in this way so
that it's not like we're going cold turkey or just
ripping the band aid off. I find to have success,
it needs to be slow, easy baby steps. So I've
created specific foods that are youth that people are accustomed to,
but I've shifted the macro so we still can get
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every person into this safe and effective state of fat burn.
And then once we get the people in this state,
there's no hunger, there's no cravings, there's no desire anymore.
We've broken those food addictions, and then we can go
and release these foods and kind of move more onto
your own. So, yeah, it might be an oatmeal that
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you're used to, but it's a protein based oatmeal instead
of the really super carby oatmeal that you'd get at
the grocery store. Same thing with the pancakes. We've got
different soups, different snacks. Some are crunchy, some are sauce,
some are a drink, just to really fit the palate
of what folks are used to. So we can do
the work of getting folks into the sweet state that
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feels so good without them even realizing it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I mean. For me, I'm a big coffee drinker through
the day, so having the cappuccino while we're on air
a big win. For Jason, he's a chocolatel like, so
the dark chocolate pudding. You do a lot of trading
baseball cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's like, oh you
get you got your your supply, so you got your pudding.
So you know, we start working to that. I would say.
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Also in terms of the change we talk about, you know,
having to go and look at clothes and all. Smith's
very proud of the fact that he's had to go
and buy a bunch of new Mets hats.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Even my hat size is that and I think my
size amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, it's so crazy. People who wear glasses need to
get new glasses, rings, shoes. Like you said, it's really
unbelievable where we carry our fat and a lot of guys,
like I said, carry their fat in the chest, throat
and head. And that's why so many of us have
high blood pressure in sleep apnea. And the great news
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is you can turn this around, and you can do
it in a number of weeks. I had a client, Bobby,
who had high blood pressure. He had morbid high blood pressure,
which means he was on multiple medications and couldn't get
his blood pressure to be normal, and he had a
high heart rate, and that's why his why He's like,
I have to get my heart rate down, and I
can't do it with medications. It's time to make a change.
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Within ten days, he called me, and it's like, doctor Ashley,
my heart rate is down within the normal range for
the first time in a decade, and I've already had
to go off of one of my blood pressure meds.
So I think people can feel daunted and overwhelmed number one,
feeling like they can't do it on their own naturally,
and number two that there's going to take forever and
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like huge scary changes and it doesn't. It's really simple
and you can see changes happening in ten days. In
one week, we had a fellow on ninety units of
insulin and after seven days no more insulin. He was
no longer inflent dependent type two diabetic. Yeah, and another
client dropped his cepap machine in six weeks, So I
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mean everyone is different. I say, there's something magical about
the sixteen week mark where the body has had time
to heal. Ourselves heal, we become more insulin sensitive, and
oh my gosh, the changes within our body. It's pretty miraculous.
So if you're listening to this and you are struggling
with your health health, I want you to know that
there is hope and you can do this and it
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doesn't have to be painful, and it doesn't have to
take a super long time, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And Mike alluded to this earlier in this is one
of the greatest things about PhD weight loss is that
every week you get a one on one session with
a nutritionist who will help answer all your questions, who
will help put you in a right frame of mind.
This is what you should do for this week, This
is what what did you do last week. You know,
Tim and Heather have been phenomenal for me. I know
Heather's been with Michael while too as well. And like
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any questions we have, any anything, Hey I did this
this week? What do you think about this for next week?
And they're They're there to put me in the position
to succeed. And that's what I love about this is
that any time I have a question, I can send
them a text or an email and say, hey, what
about this?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
What do you think about this? And they get right
back to me.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And I really and having the person to be beholden to,
because look at you want to step on the scale
and see results and okay, but when you have somebody
you're reporting to every week, that kind of ups the
any a little bit. And that's why I think having
a nutritionist that you check in with and have every
week assigned to you, that's a that's just a genius
move and I know that's helped me over the course
of the past few months.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The accountability piece is huge. You know, I think there's
a stigma around having someone support you to drop weight
for some reason, but if you think about it, all
of the best athletes have a coach, right there's not
one athlete that you would think of, yes, and that's
because you can't coach yourself. And weight loss is complicated.
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I know people like to say, oh, it's just about
eating less and moving more. And I'm not saying that
we don't defy the law of thermodynamics. Calories in and
out have a place, but it is really complicated, and
if you don't have someone from the outside, it's a
bit emotional. We don't have the accountability. We get pissed
that we haven't seen success. We step on the scale
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and get frustrated and give in and give up and
then get mad at ourselves and feel full of shame
and like we're a failure. When it is a complicated process,
we continue to tweak the meal plan as we go
to see continued changes. We use each other as a team,
so if a it doesn't see weight loss over the
course of a few weeks, we can get together and
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figure out what's happening. Like it is a process and
having someone from the outside come in just to figure
out from an outside perspective and to tell you the truth.
Sometimes we need to hear the truth. And you know,
it's just like a coach with a mastered golfer there
and looking at the swing from the outside and say,
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oh gosh, you need to move your elbow like this
by one millimeter. You wouldn't know that if you were
there out on out by yourself, right. You need someone
there to provide support so that you can get better
and you can grow and you can reach your goals.
And that's what this process is like. It's exactly the
same as an athlete becoming an expert at their sport.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, doctor Ashley, you've been there for us, You continue
to be there for us. Your team at PhD weight
Loss continues to be there for us. It's an easy system,
it's made to be convenient. You get the one on
one sessions every week. The best place to go get
at the information my phdweightloss dot com. That's m y
phdweightloss dot com. My phdweightloss dot Com. Again, doctor Ashley Lucas,
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owner and founder of PhD Weight Loss and the supplement
line Doctor Ashley Wellness doctor.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Thank you for everything you've been doing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Thank you for everything you've done for us, and and
uh I look forward to continuing to lose weight and
having updates every week and feeling great about my life.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Thank you so much, oh my gosh, my pleasure you guys,
and congratulations again. I just love to hear about your
success and excited for continue to progress.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So let's go, Yes, let's go again.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
My phdweightloss dot com m y phdweightloss dot com. And
the phone number is you want to call get somebody
right away? Eight six four five O two one seven
seven seven. That's eight six four five O two one
seven seven seven harm. It's eight six four five oh
two one seven seven. What's that last number?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Seven?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yes, seven, let's go
Hello, and welcome to a very different kind of podcast.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon from The Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon here on Fox Sports Radio. Getting to talk
to somebody who, for I can sum it up just
by saying this, she has changed both of our lives
with PhD weight loss. Doctor Ashley Lucas is the owner
and founder of PhD Weight Loss in the supplement line
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PhD in Sports Nutrition Chronic Disease. Also a former professional
ballet dancer. Doctor Ashley, you're such a badass. I think
you can be in the new John Wick movie is Ballerina,
because that's impact you've had on our lives right now.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That's all right, that'd be fun.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
So we've been doing PHDW weight loss Mike and I
now since the beginning of the year. We're both over
forty pounds that we've lost. We feel great. This is
a program that was brand new to us. You've now
helped over ten thousand people nationwide achieve remarkable success, collectively
shedding more than three hundred and sixty six thousand pounds.
And when I heard about PhD weight loss, I said,
(01:00):
this sounds like a great idea, and Harmon and I
said yeah, let's go, let's go do it, and I
mean it. It has changed our lives. So the first
thing I want to say is thank you very much
for what you've been doing for us.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Oh my gosh, my pleasure and congratulations you guys. I
always say that the best plan on Earth only works
if you work it, and that's what you guys have
done to drop forty pounds each and still going.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah, we keep each other honest, you know, we monitor
what we're what we're in taking, what we're here in
the studios, and certainly the process has helped having someone
to work along with it.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Yeah, definitely. What's the difference that you guys feel forty
pounds down?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh, I'm so fat, I am so lightning fast. I
can first step down at better. My forty yard dash
is down to about three point two seconds. No, I
honestly I feel across the board. I'm sleeping better. I
don't need naps as much as I used to. My
energy level is higher. I don't have cravings for food
(02:01):
that I used to eat all the time. I would
default to a bag of potato chips or or something chocolate.
I don't have that anymore. I'm eating less and I'm
feeling more fulfilled, like it has checked every box across
the board from you, Mike, what about you?
Speaker 3 (02:12):
My joints are better nice now, my shoulders still a mess.
We joke about that on the show a lot. Eventually
there's a surgery there.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Jone.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
She can do everything, She'll do it for you. She
could do that too.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, I didn't know that, doctor Ashley. I have to
see a certification before I can do that one. But no, certainly,
my knees have always been an issue in the hips
carrying the extra weight, so losing that has certainly helped.
And you get to go into more stylish stuff because
you go down a size of clothes. I mean, Smith,
you could speak to that too, other than your met stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, yeah, it's now it's mets gear. That's a lot,
looks a lot, a lot easier to buy. I don't
have to worry about all this double X and more.
It's fantastic stuff now, doctor Ashley. First thing, let's get
everybody caught up. Tell us the philosophy behind PhD weight
loss and where this came from and the genesis to
where it is right now.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Sure, well, as you guys shared, I come from a
unique background. I was a professional ballet dancer, which really
is a very intense sport. I think you guys need
to cover yeah, and so man, I was just injured
all the time. There's significant aesthetic demands. I was required
(03:22):
to be really lean. My body didn't naturally conform, it
didn't follow suit like all of the other girls. So
I chronically under eate. I starved myself. I didn't eat
red meat. I didn't eat fat, because they told us
that if you eat red meat and you eat fat,
you get fat and on the healthy so I did
all the things I was told to do, but I
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was injured all the time. I had a stress fracture
in my back and I still deal with the pain
from that. I had stress fractures in my feet. But
I was fairly successful because like most athletes, I was
super disciplined and I was obsessed and so passionate around
the sport in the art form. So I danced with
companies across the nation. I was selected to perform in
(04:06):
New York City, you know every dancer's dream. But instead
of finding myself in the spotlight and these once in
a lifetime performances, I landed myself in the er. I
had no idea what was going on with my health. Yeah,
I was so afraid. I thought I was having a
heart attack. But after a whole bunch of tests, the
doctors came back and just said I was underfed, I
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was over exercised, and I could not keep going. So
to me, that was a huge deal. It was twenty
plus years of struggle and sacrifice, just like you know
the football players you guys talk about just who have
dedicated their entire lives to the sport. It was like
Michael Felts being pulled off before his Olympic swim. I
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was at that level, probably top one percent of dancers
in the US, which is super competitive, and I just
couldn't do it anymore. So I had an identity crisis.
I didn't know what to do, but I understood how
significantly nutrition impacted my sport performance. So I went back
to school. I earned my PhD in Sports Nutrition and
(05:11):
Chronic Disease, and I studied exactly that energy metabolism. How
do we optimize our body composition without chronically starving ourselves
and ruining our metabolism in our body. So I, after
that went on to earn my registered dietitian credentials because
I thought to be a true expert in the field
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of weight management, I needed to be a registered dietitian
as well as a PhD. But there was a problem.
During my internship and all my work becoming a dietitian,
I learned all the stuff that I had implemented that
did not work for me. They told me I needed
to tell people to eat less and move more, to
eat six to eleven servings of grain, to avoid red meat,
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to not eat the fat. And I knew I did
that as a dancer, and it did not work for me.
I was still too fat. I was injured all the time.
So I ended up flipping everything I learned upside down,
took all my research, put it all together and started
working with athletes. And I worked with x you know, football,
collegiate level, NFL level football players, Olympic level swimmers, gymnasts,
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martial artists, cross country skiers. I lived in Durango, Colorado
at the time and worked with a lot of athletes,
and I found what had a significant impact on their
sport performance had a more profound impact on those of
us struggling with excess fat weight and so that's how
I created the PhD approach. We've got lots of brick
and mortar offices and a huge nationwide over the phone
(06:41):
at home presence where like you said, we've served over
ten thousand people and have helped people drop massive weight
and most importantly keep it off naturally.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, you're working with two Olympic level eaters in Mike
and I.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
What you've done with us it has been as like
I said, it's been astounding. Now the PhD mets it
incorporates five steps. Can you just kind of quickly run
through what those five steps are?
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, So, first of all, we need to get rid
of the beer gut, the spare tire. You know, that
belly fat. That belly fat most of us don't understand,
actually keeps us fat. And so I always say that
weight gain isn't our fault. Even if you guys were
Olympic level eaters, it was not your fault. So what
(07:27):
happens I find is we have these triggers in our life,
and these triggers change the way that we tolerate our food.
So for most men, a trigger is usually kind of
something stressful in their lives, like a marriage or a
divorce or a job change. I don't know. If you
guys think about what happened in your life when you
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started to pack on the extra pounds, it was probably
something stressful.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
One percent.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
I'm a Mets and Jets fan. They can stress took it.
I'm taking like.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Larger light issue as he immediately goes out my teams.
You just watching the Jets every night, although I have
watched him over the last decade, Doc Doctor Ashley, and yeah,
he he lives and dies with every pitch.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
I think maybe I won't start watching.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I'll start watching more ballet and I can yell you
know that plea was terrible, that plea was awful.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I start holding up cards with numbers on, like you're
a judge.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's all right, So so waity.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'm I'm impressed that you know the word plea.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Well, well, you know, hey, hey, I gotta know some
stuff right uh now, the PhD method, Like we're going
to get into now the nuts and bolts of it,
because the way you set up the meals that we
eat every couple of hours.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
The snacks that that are there.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Let's start with the most important meal of the day
because breakfast is what kicks off PhD weight loss. What
to eat and what not to eat for breakfast. I
think some people might be surprised at some of the
things that you have on that list and what you
supply for it.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Well, the most important thing to think for breakfast is savory.
Most of us go in and eat breakfast it's cereal
with skim milk and a banana, which, by the way,
is like the worst breakfast you can eat for or
worst thing you can eat for breakfast. Instead, we want
to focus on savory, say like eggs and bacon, or
my husband always does eggs and ground beef. That's one
(09:21):
of his favorites. Maybe some Greek yogurt like full fat
or low fat, nothing non fat, nothing diet, but like
real Greek yogurt with maybe some berries, some nuts and
seas and some eggs and some bacon. I don't know
what about you guys. What did you guys eat before
you started with PhD for breakfast?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Chocolate chip pancakes?
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Breakfast? Breakfast was a sporadic thing syrup to where for
me it would then become you to overcompensate, need a
larger lunch.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
Yeah yeah, well.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yeah, well, those types of breakfast just trigger constant cravings
and overeating and binging. So we really want to focus
on the right type of fuel and at PhD we
guide you on exactly what, when, and how much to eat.
It's super easy to follow, super precise, and it's a
very simple plan to follow.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Now, one of the things for me that you brought
up was the idea of you know, it's your fault,
shame and that kind of eating and found myself in
those habits and through this process have eliminated some of that.
You know, for me, it was more okay, I've got
a program, But getting folks in the starting gate, I
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guess is the question for me, What do you find
is the the impetus that gets folks to the front door.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Usually they're at threshold. Their desire to change significantly outweighs
their desire to stay the same. And once they hit
their threshold, it could be there having a kid, I
mean like, I cannot be that like this and unhealthy.
I'm pre diabetic, I've had high blood pressure, I've got
sleep apnea, or maybe they've got grandkids on the way,
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or maybe they've been told from their doctor that they're
pre diabetic or diabetic, and they're just over it. So
usually it's something that happens in our life that allows
us to have this really strong why and when people
enter in with this desire to change man, the transformation
is amazing. So we talked a little bit about the
fact that weight gain isn't our fault, but I didn't
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go fully into it. So this belly fat that we
started talking about, we go through this stressful trigger. It
changes the way we tolerate food and we start to
pack on the pounds in the belly, that thick belly gut,
beer gut, and out. Over time, this type of fat
that's seeped down in the belly, it's called visceral fat,
actually grows its own blood vessels, it gets its own
(11:48):
oxygen supply, and it starts to secrete hormones. So that belly,
that gut that you guys have is this thing that
just wants to grow and get fatter and fatter as
fast as possible. And one of the hormones that secretes
is called aromatase, which takes your testosterone and converts it
into estrogen. So as a guy carrying this belly fat,
(12:08):
you've actually got low tea levels, high estrogen, and you're
going to continue to gain fat in the belly, the chest,
the throat, and the face area because of the higher
estrogen levels, which puts you at really high risk of
high blood pressure and sleebacnia. So what we do at
PhD is we focus on getting rid of this beer gut,
getting rid of the deep belly fat that's like kryptonite
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that's linked to type two diabetes and cancer and inflammation
and joint pain. One of the reasons why you guys
don't have joint pain anymore is one we reduce the
force going through the joints, but also we reduce the
amount of inflammation being secreted by these fat cels. These
It's just super important for people to understand that this
belly fat just wants to grow. It's active, it's like
(12:52):
a tumor, and if we don't get rid of it,
if you just drop a few pounds, it's just a
matter of time until it eats its way back up again.
So that's why I say, you know, weight gain isn't
your fault. That's all driven by this hormonal situation, low testosterone,
high estrogen, and we've got to make a switch in
that and that's really what we focus on. And I
know you had mentioned joint pain. For every pound of
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fat weight that we're caring, it's about four pounds of
force pushing through the hip per single pound. In the knee,
it's about five pounds of forest pushing through the knee,
and then then the foot in the ankle, it's eight
pounds of excess force pushing through the joint. So it's
a lot.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
One thing I really like, and you kind of alluded
to it right there, is about being able to get
rid of the belly fat because you see results right away.
Right Mike and I each lost over seven pounds the
first week, and right for that, I was like, yes,
I'm in, like like any any kind of hesitation or no,
I'm in. I lost seven pounds this first week. And
the buy in is really easy. You outline all the meals,
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you outline what you can eat, you know the food
that you get. You get eighty percent of your food.
And I also liked it right away. You trusted everybody
to say I have one meal a day that's out,
go out to a restaurant. You have all the list
of all the things you can have at restaurants, all
different mom and pop restaurants or chain restaurants, Like, yeah,
go out and have one and have a meal a
day like you normally would, and that kind of keeps
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you on a diet where yes, you're following PhD weight loss,
but you're also getting some of the normal of going
out and having something or having something. You are going
to a restaurant or eating something that kind of what
you would normally have, And I.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
Think I think that's just a genius part of this.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Yeah, it's all about becoming self sufficient. So, like you said,
we like to provide about eighty percent of the food
and there's no additional cost to it. It's just there
as a tool. You don't have to use it if
you don't want to, but about ninety seven percent of
our clients do. And we supply most of breakfast, most
of your lunch, some snacks. But like you said, that
dinner meal is your responsibility because you need to learn,
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and we teach you.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And guide you.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Take out guide dining out guides like you can go
anywhere and we help you. Every week. You have one
on one coaching with your specific nutritionists and they guide
you and teach you what you're doing for dinner, make
it really simple. If you don't cook, it's no problem,
there's no excuses. And then as we go we gradually
release any of the food that you've been using, so
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you learn to do lunch on your own and breakfast
and snack, so by the time you get rid of
that belly fat, you're totally sufficient and you understand exactly
what you need to do, so you can actually keep
the weight off for good.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Yeah, and for folks that are pondering this, one of
the big things talking to the nutritionists is a you're traveling,
all right, let me help you, you know, in terms
of the eating out, not just off of what what
has already been established, but also the idea of, hey,
actively seeking out options for you in where you're going,
which I think is a huge help because there is.
(15:44):
For me, it's been a bit of trepidation in that
eating out process. Jason's more in the social aspect of that.
Normally I cook at home, so that step forward has
been huge for me, and the nutrition is certainly helping
with that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's great, that's the goal. You can travel, you
can dine out, you can live a hectic, busy lifestyle.
And still be able to see success. And most of
our men drop about three to four pounds a week.
Most of our women are two to three pounds. So
it's really fast and it's healthy, sustainable because we don't
use any kind of supplements or medications, you actually drop
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weight quickly, naturally without hunger cravings. I mean you guys
can attest to that, correct Like you have not been
hungry or have had significant cravings throughout the journey.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Have you?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I hope not?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
No. I mean I wake up hungry every day, which
is great because as you've told me, hey, your metabolism's going.
When you wake up hungry, go break the fast. And
that's been a great thing for me. But outside of that,
I can't tell you how many times I would walk
by my cabinet and go, I'm a little hungry, and
while I'm deciding what to eat, I'll have like a
handful of potato chips, or I'll have two chocolate chip
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cookies that are you know, one hundred and sixty calories
and sugar and fat, and I'm still hungry and I
just start mindlessly eating. And I don't do that anymore.
And just how easy it was to get used to
that Doctor Ashley is amazing because I thought, how am
I going to cut these cravings?
Speaker 4 (17:05):
How's it going to happen? But I mean it. The
buy in.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
For PhD is so easy, and I want to say,
after like three days, I felt, hey, yeah, no, I
got this. I get this, and I get when to
have the snacks and what to have here, and all
of a sudden, I felt like an expert.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean I'm not a nutrition Wow, Like I kind
of felt.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Like I said, yeah, I got this down, and that's
like that gets you past any mental hurdle you have that. Okay, No,
after a couple of days, I got it. I got
this diet, I got the schedule, I got what I'm eating.
But let's go, let's go forward. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, And it's not like you have to eat what
I call rabbit food. I think most of us think
weight loss, we think diet, we think being vegan, we
think salads with grilled chicken, and you actually get to
eat butter and steak if you want to. It's not
a ketogenic diet, but it's more kind of of an
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ancestral way of eating, like real food in the way
that it comes from the earth Earth, And as a
result of that, we do a lot of work on
breaking food addictions. It's not for all of our clients,
but a lot of us are addicted to food because
of you know, the way Big food has made these foods.
That there's lots of talk in the news right now
(18:16):
about banning food dies and you know, getting rid of
seed oils, which I do love the discussion and the
focus around because our food has been made to be
addictive and we're really the boots on the ground helping
people break free from these addictions and the cravings are gone,
the hunger is gone, better, mental clarity, like we really
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are able to get the body back to the way
it's naturally supposed to operate, and it's liberating.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
You know, doctor.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the thing about the food, I think let's go
over some of the food that's available, some of the
food that you send out, because yeah, I think people
are probably shocked by going, wait, you can have steak
and butter.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Yeah, you got to have the right fats at every meal.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And I mean in my food and the food choices
you have, it's pancakes and blueberry pancakes, and it's sloppy
Joe's and it's chicken noodle soup, and like, this is
the variety of stuff that makes it easy to say, Okay,
I'm gonna have chicken noodle soup and a snack for lunch,
and you know, just go over some of the foods
that you have available that you've been able to find
that that really help people that they feel like, hey,
(19:16):
I'm having this diet, I'm still having a lot of
the stuff that I normally would have.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Well, that's why I've created it in this way so
that it's not like we're going cold turkey or just
ripping the band aid off. I find to have success,
it needs to be slow, easy baby steps. So I've
created specific foods that are youth that people are accustomed to,
but I've shifted the macro so we still can get
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every person into this safe and effective state of fat burn.
And then once we get the people in this state,
there's no hunger, there's no cravings, there's no desire anymore.
We've broken those food addictions, and then we can go
and release these foods and kind of move more onto
your own. So, yeah, it might be an oatmeal that
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you're used to, but it's a protein based oatmeal instead
of the really super carby oatmeal that you'd get at
the grocery store. Same thing with the pancakes. We've got
different soups, different snacks. Some are crunchy, some are sauce,
some are a drink, just to really fit the palate
of what folks are used to. So we can do
the work of getting folks into the sweet state that
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feels so good without them even realizing it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Well, that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
I mean. For me, I'm a big coffee drinker through
the day, so having the cappuccino while we're on air
a big win. For Jason, he's a chocolatel like, so
the dark chocolate pudding. You do a lot of trading
baseball cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's like, oh you
get you got your your supply, so you got your pudding.
So you know, we start working to that. I would say.
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Also in terms of the change we talk about, you know,
having to go and look at clothes and all. Smith's
very proud of the fact that he's had to go
and buy a bunch of new Mets hats.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Even my hat size is that and I think my
size amazing.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, it's so crazy. People who wear glasses need to
get new glasses, rings, shoes. Like you said, it's really
unbelievable where we carry our fat and a lot of guys,
like I said, carry their fat in the chest, throat
and head. And that's why so many of us have
high blood pressure in sleep apnea. And the great news
(21:23):
is you can turn this around, and you can do
it in a number of weeks. I had a client, Bobby,
who had high blood pressure. He had morbid high blood pressure,
which means he was on multiple medications and couldn't get
his blood pressure to be normal, and he had a
high heart rate, and that's why his why He's like,
I have to get my heart rate down, and I
can't do it with medications. It's time to make a change.
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Within ten days, he called me, and it's like, doctor Ashley,
my heart rate is down within the normal range for
the first time in a decade, and I've already had
to go off of one of my blood pressure meds.
So I think people can feel daunted and overwhelmed number one,
feeling like they can't do it on their own naturally,
and number two that there's going to take forever and
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like huge scary changes and it doesn't. It's really simple
and you can see changes happening in ten days. In
one week, we had a fellow on ninety units of
insulin and after seven days no more insulin. He was
no longer inflent dependent type two diabetic. Yeah, and another
client dropped his cepap machine in six weeks, So I
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mean everyone is different. I say, there's something magical about
the sixteen week mark where the body has had time
to heal. Ourselves heal, we become more insulin sensitive, and
oh my gosh, the changes within our body. It's pretty miraculous.
So if you're listening to this and you are struggling
with your health health, I want you to know that
there is hope and you can do this and it
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doesn't have to be painful, and it doesn't have to
take a super long time, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
And Mike alluded to this earlier in this is one
of the greatest things about PhD weight loss is that
every week you get a one on one session with
a nutritionist who will help answer all your questions, who
will help put you in a right frame of mind.
This is what you should do for this week, This
is what what did you do last week. You know,
Tim and Heather have been phenomenal for me. I know
Heather's been with Michael while too as well. And like
(23:20):
any questions we have, any anything, Hey I did this
this week? What do you think about this for next week?
And they're They're there to put me in the position
to succeed. And that's what I love about this is
that any time I have a question, I can send
them a text or an email and say, hey, what
about this?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
What do you think about this? And they get right
back to me.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
And I really and having the person to be beholden to,
because look at you want to step on the scale
and see results and okay, but when you have somebody
you're reporting to every week, that kind of ups the
any a little bit. And that's why I think having
a nutritionist that you check in with and have every
week assigned to you, that's a that's just a genius
move and I know that's helped me over the course
of the past few months.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
The accountability piece is huge. You know, I think there's
a stigma around having someone support you to drop weight
for some reason, but if you think about it, all
of the best athletes have a coach, right there's not
one athlete that you would think of, yes, and that's
because you can't coach yourself. And weight loss is complicated.
(24:21):
I know people like to say, oh, it's just about
eating less and moving more. And I'm not saying that
we don't defy the law of thermodynamics. Calories in and
out have a place, but it is really complicated, and
if you don't have someone from the outside, it's a
bit emotional. We don't have the accountability. We get pissed
that we haven't seen success. We step on the scale
(24:43):
and get frustrated and give in and give up and
then get mad at ourselves and feel full of shame
and like we're a failure. When it is a complicated process,
we continue to tweak the meal plan as we go
to see continued changes. We use each other as a team,
so if a it doesn't see weight loss over the
course of a few weeks, we can get together and
(25:04):
figure out what's happening. Like it is a process and
having someone from the outside come in just to figure
out from an outside perspective and to tell you the truth.
Sometimes we need to hear the truth. And you know,
it's just like a coach with a mastered golfer there
and looking at the swing from the outside and say,
(25:24):
oh gosh, you need to move your elbow like this
by one millimeter. You wouldn't know that if you were
there out on out by yourself, right. You need someone
there to provide support so that you can get better
and you can grow and you can reach your goals.
And that's what this process is like. It's exactly the
same as an athlete becoming an expert at their sport.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Well, doctor Ashley, you've been there for us, You continue
to be there for us. Your team at PhD weight
Loss continues to be there for us. It's an easy system,
it's made to be convenient. You get the one on
one sessions every week. The best place to go get
at the information my phdweightloss dot com. That's m y
phdweightloss dot com. My phdweightloss dot Com. Again, doctor Ashley Lucas,
(26:08):
owner and founder of PhD Weight Loss and the supplement
line Doctor Ashley Wellness doctor.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Thank you for everything you've been doing.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Thank you for everything you've done for us, and and
uh I look forward to continuing to lose weight and
having updates every week and feeling great about my life.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Thank you so much, oh my gosh, my pleasure you guys,
and congratulations again. I just love to hear about your
success and excited for continue to progress.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
So let's go, Yes, let's go again.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
My phdweightloss dot com m y phdweightloss dot com. And
the phone number is you want to call get somebody
right away? Eight six four five O two one seven
seven seven. That's eight six four five O two one
seven seven seven harm. It's eight six four five oh
two one seven seven. What's that last number?
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Seven?
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yes, seven, let's go
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