June 27, 2023 • 39 mins
Tonight on the Best Of The Jason Smith Show w/ Mike Harmon, Jason and Mike talked about Freddie Freeman breaking 2,000 career hits and the chances he has of joining the 3,000 hit club. Plus the guys are visited by MLB insider Jon Paul Morosi to talk Mets struggles, trade deadline preview, and much more.
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, we almost SYNCD up our viewing in the
start of the show and everything perfectly because Bill Nye
with the green tone these ad doc times. We uh,
watch you endure another Mets loss? Yeah no, this was
perfect timing is walking into the studio. I watched vogel
(01:07):
back pop up to end the game. I'm like, that's it.
That's perfect. It's absolutely perfect, absolutely perfect. Listen, and there
he is staring you down with his eyes going, hey,
I love I love terrible times, I love how.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Today I'm glad we have a Harry Potter marathon on tonight.
Uh here I am, I am glad. I'm not glad.
I am shocked that. It's like everybody that rights on
the blogger sphere woke up today and said, oh, you know,
the Mets are really disappointed. Yeah, I know, the Mets
lost in the very Mets way yesterday. One hit in
the eighth inning, two hit by pitches, a basis loaded walk,
and everybody bet baty. Yes, I know, but don't wake
(01:41):
up to the fact and say, oh, hey, guess what
the Mets suck. We've I've known the Mets have sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now long time.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You're bringing folks in because you know, some folks can't
work in multitask and cover more than one sport with
really bad content at a time. So once the NBA
draft was done and the well how high is the
ceiling for Victor when by Yama blogs and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Else, it's wait, what's left? Oh, it's baseball season? See
what the Mets are doing Which team has been the
most disappointing and underwhelming? Do we get more hits if
we say the Mets. Do we get more hits if
we say the Padres? You know guess what it's uh,
it's yeah. Look, here's the thing. Let me just say
this before before I have a quiz for all of you.
(02:29):
We'll start things off. You're pretty good. Quiz for me?
That sucks? Well, yeah they do. Look, no, the Mets
and the Padres. Here we are now getting close to
the fourth of July holiday, and you can see some
of the teams that just have not been able to
adjust to the new rule changes, and some teams that
have been able to. Because what are we seeing an
uptick of now stolen bases? Hitting for average? Yeah, you're
(02:51):
just been talking about that for weeks, you know, Johnny
come lately. Yeah, you can't play the you can't play
the shift anymore. So now averages are up around baseball.
People are hit you. Luis a Riaz is making a
run at four hundred. More teams are stealing bases. Look
at these teams that are doing that, that are up near
the top of their division. The Diamondbacks are doing it.
You're seeing teams, Hey, I'm adjusting. The Reds are doing it.
(03:11):
We're adjusting Taalabat and the Mets and the Padres are
the two teams that just said we're just gonna throw
a bunch of talented guys out there and see what happens.
And who are the two biggest disappointments of the season
in baseball Mets and the Padres because they did not adjust.
We're just gonna a mass talent and throw it out there,
and you know what, can't do it now. Now you
have to figure out a way to get back to
playing baseball before the shift, before where was less predictable.
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Now now it's hey, there's other things you need to
be doing. You can't put a bunch of guys out
there that hit two forty and expect all we're gonna
win a bunch of games. Can't do it. But those
two teams, they're the ones that are most disappointing because
they're just throwing guys out there and you have to
at some point realize, okay, these changes, we have to
adjust a little bit. Yeah, you've got two of the
six worst team batting averages in Major League Baseball when
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you're looking at the Yankees and the Padres. Padres are
twenty fifth hitting a team two thirty two, and that's
despite the brilliance of Fernando Tatist Junior once he got back,
because he's been fantastic. And it's not a story because well,
again they stink, uh. And then you've got the Tigers,
they stink.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Mariners a disappointment coming in at twenty seventh, hitting to
twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Somebody's World Series pick.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Mike, Yeah, well I had hopes to but tie. They're
tied for twenty sixth with Detroit. And then you've got
the Yankees at to twenty eight. And we've talked about it,
We made fun of it a bunch with ariahs Uh
and his performance versus that of the entire Yankees roster
not named Judge, and that going into the into the weekend,
(04:43):
Aria's had more hits than the rest of the Yankees
not named Judge. And now you get an update that
maybe Judge will come back maybe the second or third
week after the All Star Game, which gives you a
little bit of hope. But does that change fundamentally how
you're playing baseball. No, no, it does not. So it's
curious to see, you know, the first half superstars that
(05:04):
have emerged, a lot of big players, I know your
Elie Della Cruz getting a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Of run m V P m V.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Look where we're in that strange world where you're you're
always looking for new stories and and resurrection stories. And
certainly for the Cincinnati Reds, that's exactly where we're at.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But for the clubs that did not change, including your Mets,
all you did was spend a lot of money and
get older. And we spend a lot of money a
guy that's you know, a pivotal cog and everything, and
and no Pete Alonzo. It makes things a much more
difficult proposition. I mean, I should have known. I should
have known when Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating in the
(05:42):
World Baseball Classic, buds folded up. Let's go back back
everything up. Let's like when you get to the beach
for a picnic and it's ready, let's just go time
to go home. Everybody go home, Well, everybody goes. We
tried to tell them, well, but that's the thing. As
soon as Timmy L. Trumpet was out there, he tried
to tell you as he went down, it was like,
all right, it's a long road ahead. That's why you
gotta be careful for how much you're so excited about
(06:04):
your gang Green coming up, buddy, because let's face it,
there's a lot of hooplin and tourism dollars being spent
with the excitement of him returning to prominence. Your guy
Aaron Rodgers that you want to be the producer of
this TV show. So yeah, be careful what you wish for.
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(06:26):
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Slash match. Well, I always ask every year, I want
the Mets to get into the Jets, the Mets, the Jets,
the Mets. The Jets today get that bridge, and now
I may get there even earlier because the big NFL
(06:46):
news of the day, the New York Mets and the
rest of the NFL is bracing for the NFL to
make the Jets be the hard knocks team. We can't
really say no, but we will make you do it.
The Jets don't want to do it. There's four teams
that the league can tell them to do it and
they can't say no. The Jets, the Bears, the Saints,
(07:09):
looking and some of these teams are pretty decent, right,
they have pretty good storylines, right, And I've told you that. Hey,
you can see some stuff here and there, but clearly
the Jets would be the big winner because it's Aaron Rodgers.
It's everything new, there's Super Bowl hopes and it's Aaron Rodgers,
and hey, it's Aaron Rodgers. The league didn't want to
tell teams, hey, you have to do it, but they're
(07:31):
gonna tell the Jets. Apparently we are making you do this.
And you know what, I don't care. I know there's
so much. No team is gonna win or lose because
they did hard knocks. The Jets aren't gonna win or
lose Week one or in September because they did hard knocks.
Does it make things a little bit more difficult, Yeah,
it does. You don't really want cameras around, but still
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you're still beholding the players, You're beholding the teammates, and
you're beholding to everybody else. You're not gonna win or lose.
Because of this. Does this mean you have to work
a little bit harder? Yeah, probably, but you're also coming
to Camp Fat more sooner than everybody else because you
have the Hall of Fame game. And in the end,
it really, are you worried? You just canceled the whole
the whole run of of of workouts because Aaron Rodgers said, yeah,
(08:15):
feeling good, man, I well just get a conference to
talk and we'll cancel everything. I gotta do a few
more run throughs of my speech. It's not perfect, but
it's good because it's you know, it's gonna be It's
gonna be a love fest because Aaron Rodgers is gonna say,
give me all the cameras, Let the guys do their thing.
You want me, give me all the cameras. This is
what I want. It's why he's in New York. It's
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why I'm sure the Jets will wind up doing it,
because they'll call it. Aaron Rodgers will say, yeah, let's
do it. Why not, because it's just a bigger thing
for him, because he wants New York, because he wants
the brand. And we've talked about this before, and this
helps him with his brand. He this is before anything
really happens, he can still be even a bigger story.
I'm in New York now, I'm Aaron rod here, i
am at the Tony's. I'm here, I'm here. I'm going
(08:56):
to a Mets game. I'm not gonna go a metsican.
They think I'm going to Yankees game?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Does he just He's gonna find a way to make
it all about him, which is great because it's gonna
help him, and it's gonna help him with his brand.
It's gonna help the Jets at least not have everybody
else be in the crosshairs of things, except for the
players who want some of the spotlight. But this will
work out just fine. Aaron Rodgers will lead the Jets
through hard knocks like he's gonna lead the offense through
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the season. I don't care you rolled your eyes to me,
blank you, Mike Carmon, We're going to the super Bowl
and you're not. Or I hope we come to the
super Bowl and we beat you guys forty nine to three.
That's what I really hope happened. We'll be in Vegas
one way or another. Jets, Saints, Bears, and the Commanders
was the fourth team you were looking for. Look, we
talked about it all I was looking for that. I
just moved on in my head. I's moved on to
(09:42):
think about Sam Howell and the Jet Commanders. I actually
do have stuff on Sam Hobbell. We'll save that for
all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, you know what, the card market is already getting
ahead of your big, bold predictions.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But when when it comes down to it, you're you're
looking at a a sequence here for Aaron Rodgers, where
a lot of this has been about brand re establishment.
Now he doesn't care what you think about his you know,
larger pharmaceutical concerns and those kind of things, and he
lost a lot of fans, a lot of big talking
(10:15):
points going on all that. But you soften it, right,
you're a couple of years removed. For some folks, they
either didn't hear it or didn't care. But now you
go to New York and you're the greatest tourists that
we've ever seen. Love everything about of here. Come out
a trip with me.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We're gonna go to insert museum X, and it can
be all about Aaron Rodgers. The Aaron Rodgers you never
knew or understood or whatever else. For the bears so
much going on there. I mean, you do have a
guy that's modeling right now overseas, so I guess you
can go that's that's good Hard knocks overseas.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Problem that it's also the same guy that people are
saying is not ready to be an every down player
Chase Clayboo yeah, which is really nothing that you haven't
heard on this show before. But overseas market saying Okay,
they'll just take anything for Americans, but then the Saints, uh,
(11:08):
you know, Aaron Rodgers, but just for that, that's the
what they want. Hapically, I don't want to hear him
have to force it like he's been method acting like
you can have some fun with that. One will be
down easy exactly, will be great.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's like that kid Happy Gilmour that got his scholarship
and Adam Sandler got all excited for him. But I mean,
they're their storylines certainly to be had with all. But
it's nice and easy. Hey, Aaron, you do this. It's
New York, New Jersey. It's a monster market and you
know what we say, so right, because it's could be
the exact opposite there, Come on in if you will.
(11:52):
It's not gonna be quite Sanchez t Bow of years ago,
where I was there for a couple of those practices,
that's about as wild as ever got. It was almost
like they told people to turn the cameras off once
they started running drills with Tebow.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Because it was so bad, such bad football.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But the other part is, you know, you've got Denver
where Sean Payton's basically not gonna let anybody in. There's
gonna be no radio shows, not a lot of video.
It's gonna be beat it. I mean, Russell Wilson's gonna
be in the greatest shape of his life. All of
those things are coming together. But yeah, open door policy
for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I'm telling you it's gonna be
fine because he wants this. He want and this is
(12:30):
why it's good. This is why it's gonna work out.
Put all the cameras on me, let me do everything
can be about me.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's okay. I feel good. I got a good team
behind me. I'm ready to go. I got Him's gardener.
The only two people you need to follow with that,
that's all, doesn't matter, doesn't matter the Jets watch how
a gardener holds on to the person filming him at
everything else, you will get to see how a Super
Bowl team is built from the ground up and training
camp this year with the Jets on hard knucks, and
(12:56):
you won't have to produce a post super Bowl documentary.
Then it's already ready sorry, it's all ready to go,
already ready Boom.
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Speaker 1 (13:53):
We have said, you and I have talked a long
time about certain certain historic achievements that we love seeing
in that are becoming a dying breed that we're not
going to get to see anymore. And up until yesterday,
I thought, you guys have to had time to think
about it, look into it. I thought, well, we were
not going to see another huge milestone that always takes
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over in Major League Baseball, that Miguel Cabrera got his
three thousand hit a couple of years ago. All Right,
you know what, Miguel Cabrera, that's the last three thousand
hit guy we're going to see. Very well be the
last guy we're going to see. Except yesterday, well we
saw this two.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And one to Freeman flyball right center, racing on back Tucker,
he can't get it arriving at second base. Freddie Freeman
career hit two thousand and all together, fitting and proper
it is, with its double and a standing ovation for
Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Joelway's dyninger on AM five to seventy with a call
Freddie Freeman the two thousandth hit of his career yesterday
in the Dodgers loss to the Astros. Hold on a second,
not seeing another guy get to three thousand, it's because
you and I are looking at in our lifetimes, twenty
years are gonna go by at least, but before we
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see somebody with three thousand. It's because that's how long
it takes. Right, we're at twenty and no one's playing
right now that could get there. But now you got
Freddy Freeman. There's one other thirty three years old at
two thousand hits right well, and Frostburg's favorite guy in baseball.
We we've marked out two players Jose al Tuove. Yeah,
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those are the true guy because he's almost at two thousand.
He's thirty nine hitch short. As we go through. What's amazing, though,
is you go through the the annals of Major League
Baseball history and what twood look because three thousand has
always been a magic number, right, three hundred wins was.
But that's certainly that metric has changed some of the
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RBI totals or era totals that we've been excited about
home run record. We've watched bounce all over the place,
and you know, historically and career, single season, all of
that stuff has been different, but the hit total is
one that it's with the changing game, and perhaps now
we swing the pendulum back a little bit with all
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the rule changes, that maybe we see an uptick there.
But he is only the two hundred and ninetieth guy
in Major League Baseball history to get to two thousand. Yeah. Right,
there's only one hundred guys. This is you know, quick math,
only one hundred guys who have more than twenty five
hundred hits in Major League baseball history. It thins out
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just that fast. Now between the two of them, I'm
I don't think al Tuoba is gonna get there because
he's a guy that has not been the same player. Well,
you know, since the size he's not been his his
hit totals have really decreased over the course of the
past five or six years. Like he had four straight
years of two hundred hits and now it's now he's
averaging you know, one sixty nine has been his high number,
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and you're not going to get there at one sixty nine.
That's going to be very difficult, especially when he's had
injury issues as well and his hit totals a little
bit lower. But Freddy Freeman is someone who was proving
at thirty three. I'm still hitting at an MVP type level,
and I can keep this going. Freddy Freeman is going
to finish this. He's got ninety seven hits now, probably
finish somewhere around two thousand and eighty, right, So let's
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say that if he finishes around twenty eighty, if he
plays five more years, he needs one hundred and eighty
a year. Now, that's a lot as you get to
thirty four, thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight,
that's a lot. But the next six years now he
only needs about one hundred and fifty a year, And
especially with as time goes on, he'll start dhing because
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he's still playing first base every day, which at some point,
all right, you got to give that up. Maybe not now,
but when you get to be thirty four to thirty five, Okay,
maybe you're you're playing first base a couple of days
a week and your deation the rest of la as
you're hitting like this, that's going to extend his career.
You talked about the rule changes. Now without being able
to have the shift, that's going to help. So yeah,
I get Freddie Freeman's the guy like he's the he's
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the guy that can get to three thousand hits. Now,
it's probably about a thirty percent chance because again, he's
gonna be have to be playing at a high level,
because not like you can you can stack up great
years and have a bad year after, right, you know,
you don't stack up hits like one year I get
two hundred and eighty hits, next year I get a hundred. No,
your big years are gonna be around one hundred and eighty.
You can't get you can't. You're not gonna get two
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hundred and two to twenty hits a year. One eighty
one eighty five is what you're thinking about. So you
can't have that one eighty five then have a one
to twenty year, right, So you have to have really
good years the next five or six. You gotta be
playing extremely well, be playing every day when you're thirty six,
thirty seven, thirty eight. That's the tough test. That's all.
Ill put it about thirty percent chance, But where was
zero percent up until Freddy signs of the Dodgers. Prusy
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still is this kind of hitter, and he can one
hundred and eighty hit yeah, Freddy for thirty chance lo
gi him. He can get that. Well, we get to
the fun and exciting world that is the Dodgers that
you know, even though this year is a little different,
new faces and some changeouts, He's gonna rake. And there
are going to be times where you get the rest
of the lineup that's hitting with you. Right, they're they're
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not gonna stand pat The roster will turn over a
bit more and you'll have more guys, maybe at Choho
Tani coming up to five, whatever the case may be,
you'll have more people, more protection and opportunities. But watching
the how dialed in he is at times, I mean,
he is the best hitter in baseball. I think we
stipulate to that right now, Right when when you talk
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about a guy that sprays the ball all over h
and when when he's locked in your pitcher has no
chance we see him. I take a rias right now,
this moment in time, because he's a in four hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But overall, but.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm talking, I'm talking about a larger sample.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, right, all right, is just dialed in and and
and I think we're all to some degree, you're not
because you you hate fun things, but the and because
I'm we bring up a guy that isn't a Dodger
is really more of the crux of the argument, Like
I'm curious to see how far it can go. And
(20:19):
I love that we were gonna continue to get the
graphics of how many more hits ariahs has over different
large contingents of teams that were expected to contend. Right,
every time you can put up that graphic of the Yankees,
it's laughable, right, And here's a picture of Aaron Judd
sitting barefoot playing with his dog because that's where he's
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at in his rehabilitation and getting back on the field.
You've got to have a fun, happy moment because the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is what are we gonna do? So, yeah, his story
is fun. But when we talk about guys with consistency
and just year after year the level of excellence. Added
to the fact that you've got your guy in Mookie Betts,
who was on the Great Food Truck Racey, Yes, yeah, yeah,
that was that was a pretty good episode. You know,
I think the fix was in once those guys were
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revealed to be from Boston as he went and saw
them bowling ball with him or no, no, he was, uh,
what they have one hundred and fifty people.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
They had to cater stuff too, uh and come up
with twists on traditional ballpark treats, which was fun. It
was a fun episode. But Mooky was there. So you know,
you've got perennial all stars alongside you. I'm curious to
see where where it can go. You've got five or
six more years before we're talking about those numbers, but
it'll be a fun run to watch.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Look at this for Freddy Freeman. His first ten years,
he had over three hundred four times, right, was still
pretty I mean, not that he was hitting, but he's
in two seventy five to eighty two nines, but over
three hundred four times first ten years, his last four
years over three hundred every year. I mean, he's one
of those guys that's getting better and hitting the ball
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even better as he's getting older, in better lineups. Because remember,
he left a pretty loaded Braves team to come to
a pretty loaded Dodgers team. And now suddenly when you
don't have to worry about being the loane threat in
a lineup, or when the young the Braves are coming around,
and I know how sad he was to leave the
Braves do that Steve's gonna come get you. This is
I mean, this is now you're looking at a guy
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who is on his way, and as is the guy
with a chance to get to three thousands. Because all
the other things we may never see three hundred wins
in Major League Baseball, may never see that again, I
mean really again, twenty years away, because there's no one
playing right now who can get there. And if Freddie
Freeman doesn't get there for three thousand, it's no one's
gonna get there for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
What's fun, though, is also I'd love to have the
analysis and kind of the observations from people around the
Dodger organization of how he's developed as a hitter and
in his approach right because one of the things we
talk about with the Dodgers and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Some of these rule theories that they may want to
implement going forward is the use of technology, scouting and
all of that stuff as related to the big lead
team that you may have to change up some of that.
Wonder how much being and not that Atlanta's you know,
down in the low spenders of anything. I'm not saying
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that at all. If nothing else they've shown, they'll be
aggressive if they think a player is the guy. But
with the Dodgers, that's one of the big hallmarks of
this team, right, is their developmental process and the amount
of money that they spend. We complain when Dave Roberts
comes out to grab a pitcher because while the science
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says make it so right and would be no hitters
and everything else, I'd be curious to see, you know
that bridge and the work put behind the scenes with
technology and you know, advanced scouting stats and everything else.
That then how much that's helped is his approach as well,
not just because he's got a big LA on his logo.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
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Speaker 1 (24:11):
Joining us now on the hotline as we get set
for trade season. For the season, we hope Aaron Judge
is coming back. It's NABY Network Insider Extraordinaire. You can
follow him on Twitter at John Morosi. That's at John Morosi,
John Paul Morossi with us. What's happened to JP?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Good evening, Good morning here in the Eastern time zone,
and yes, this is about that time. Today I found
myself sharing trade related updates about Andrew McCutcheon, Jamber Candelario,
Il Tomorrow, Vargas and there are many more to come.
So I'm trying to get my trade deadline reporting in
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the midseason form right now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, here's the thing. To all of those, you can
add the entire Mets roster and now you got to
add that's twenty more names to it.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, Jason, there's a lot going on right there, and
as you well know, but I suppose I'll turn it.
I'll turn this question as an opener back to you
and say this, given everything that we've seen from Steve
Cohen during his time as the Mets owner, what is
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realistic to expect in the next month from him?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I would say, we we're gonna dump the guys we
can that are old and in the last year or
two of their deal, like Canna will get traded, Marte
will try to get traded. They'll swallow some of the money.
The big thing, and you and I have talked about
this is I feel like you know you're stuck with
Shirtzer and Fertlander. But shirts has been pitching better now.
But they're stuck with both of them. They're stuck. They're stuck.
(25:45):
We'll spend money, but we're stuck. JP. We keep spending
money on players, but they come in and don't play, well,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
That's that's correct, And so you can Here's the thing, Jason,
and this winter, when whenever free agency opens, the conversation
will immediately say, well, shouldn't you go and sign Otani?
And I don't think that's going to happen. I don't
(26:15):
because part of the reason is Otani when he arrived
at the Angels, they were a team that had some
age to it, was in a competitive division, and was
not winning. And those same qualities seem to apply to
the Mets right now. I just don't see. And here's
(26:36):
here's to me, the real way to look at this.
O'tani has has made money. Certainly, he's going to make
a ton of money no matter where he signs. He
will make this decision. He's going to make so much
money in my view, that that in some way at
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the end it's not going to be all about the
money because there's going to be so much of it.
Similar to Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge did not sign with
the top offer. He signed with the Yankees. The Yankees
did not make the high offer. And so Otani's going
to look at this. And what I'm here to tell you,
Jason is there's maybe one in one hundred outcomes in
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which Otani will look around and at the teams that
are at a certain threshold of offers where he might
conclude that the Mets have the best team of those
teams that make those the high dollar offers. I just
I don't see that happening. So this is where do
we see someone who grew up as a Mets fan
(27:42):
in David Stearns. Will he get added to the Mets
front office this winter as they try to have a
Brewers like level of discipline and focus while still spending
like the Mets can And is he able to thread
that needle through through those different schools of thought? Maybe?
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But this is not a quick fix. And if there's
one thing that we know, it's that when you have
an expensive team that that is not winning. This reminds
me of and I'm gonna make a rare Morosi cross
sport reference. Go back and check out the four oh
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five New York Knicks of Stefan Marbury and Steve Francis
and and that's that's basically what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You just dropped the camera on you there. Well, I
mentioned more of your teams, Jason, that you liked. That
disappointed you. I'm gonna keep going back here. Here you go.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Well, I mean to be honest, I didn't even know
how that would land, but I kind of felt like
that was pretty much where we're going right now.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
This is I was a flying elbow.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Then you let it right to my icke twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't know if that's positive or negative reinforcement, but
it's reinforcement of a point.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It's all and it's negative, So I guess it's negative reinforcements.
There you go. Well, but if it was a positive correlation,
it was, but it was of a negative impact in
the dative story. Jump on Brossi our guest here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harman here
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where you find him on Twitter. J O N mrs.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I leave out that h mom said, so so JP,
let's stay in New York Aaron Judge. We saw him
frolicking with his dog barefoot on the field, confirms a.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Ligament tear and a toe. How fast is he getting back,
because Big Stein's starting to get upset.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well, I still believe that Judge can be back by
the end of July. There are some scenarios in which
that is realistic. But to your point, it's a big
leap from being able to walk barefoot and get your
toe somehow just used to being on grass again and
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doing something that involves movement on grass and then hitting
with the absolute authority of one of the strongest humans
ever to play the game of baseball. Those are two
very different physical activities, and I just don't know. There's
tremendous amounts of uncertainty right now about exactly when Judge
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will come back, although I do believe that by this
time next month he'll be back on a field doing
something and at least will have made an effort in
terms of getting back in major league game conditions to
test out that toe and see what he can do
when the lights are brightest. But to me, there's a
very real chance that Judge, as we know Judge from
(30:47):
last year, that he's maybe not quite going to be
able to get back to one hundred percent this season
until something is potentially dealt with during the course of
the winter time. That to me, is where we're at.
I do think, well, I do completely believe we're going
to see him back at some point this season. But
the effectiveness, I think is a gigantic variable that no one,
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not Aaron Judge, not any of us can really speak
to right now with any degree of confidence.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
John Paul Morosi, our guest the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmon Live and thetiraq dot Com studios. All right
to to another topic we got into his and this
is something that I wanted to bring it up with
you because we've had this conversation many times over the
past of years about the number of milestone achievements in
baseball that we're never going to see anymore. Are we
going to see in our lifetime somebody win three hundred games?
(31:40):
Probably not. I would have said the same thing for
three thousand hits after Miguel Cabrera. But here you are yesterday.
Freddie Freeman gets to two thousand. He's at three hundred
each of his last four years. He seems to be
getting better as he's getting older. I give him like
a thirty percent chance to maybe in five and a
half years, we actually somebody, and it's Freddy Freeman get
(32:02):
to three thousand hits.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, that's fair. I think he's he will probably have
to play until he's forty to have a realistic shot
at this, and I think he could. You look at
his his swing reminds me of a bit of like
Joe Mauer swing, and I think if Joe had stayed healthy,
he would have had a chance to three thousand. I
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think Freddy just has a really unique profile. He's someone
that is so committed to getting his hits every night.
And you probably saw it heard in the beautiful video
that the Dodgers shared of the champagne toast that Freddy
had with his teammates in the clubhouse, and he talked
(32:47):
about just competing every day, wanting so badly to compete,
and you have to do that, I believe, in your
own way to get to three thousand hits. You think
about Adrian Beltrey, who I think a lot of fans
don't often remember that he got there. In terms of
the guys that we cite in recent years, Pools Cabrera,
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but before them it was Beltray, and I think that
Beltray's career and Freddy's career are somewhat similar, And I
think Beltray had to play until he was forty to
get there, So that, to me is what's likely going
to be the case for Freddy as well. Tremendous teammate,
great magician with the bat, someone who is a real
throwback and how he plays the game, and his reliability
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and how often he wants to be on the field.
So I think too it's pretty cool that he has
been able to find this second home there in Los Angeles,
which is actually his first home. He grew up in California.
But the one thing that I hope, and obviously it's
far out of his control, far out of any of
our controls, is that the shortened season in twenty twenty
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where we played the sixty games, that losing those hundred
games doesn't eventually impact the bottom line too much. I mean,
I'm just hoping that he's able to get beyond that
and still get there on time. But that milestone, that
lost season, that's real. That's two thirds of the year
basically that those players didn't have in twenty twenty. I
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think that's something we should all watch and care for here.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
As time goes on JP over the weekend, we see
all the stats of attendance and everything else, but we
also set a series of traditional rivals over to London,
and for Fox we brought Derek Jeter to the party
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
How does that go over? What were the immediate reactions
to that? Great?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I think overall, tremendous event. Loved the moment there with
Poppy giving Derek a Red Sox jersey for his birthday,
and Derek's reaction was classic. That is that for someone
as gracious as Derek, that is about as much as
much contempt as you'll ever see from him on television,
(34:56):
which I thought was great, Just a really really fun
way to welcome him to the Fox family. I think
he did a great job. Great producers of course on
that show, and the phenomenal Kevin Burkhart hosting it, so
a great conversation there, I thought all the way around him.
And it's a big event. I really think that you
see how much bigger this event is now even than
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it was for the first time back in twenty nineteen,
and you're seeing the growth of baseball in Europe. You
saw great Britain play was so well in the World
Baseball Classic. Check you have played well in the Classic
the Netherlands that are always there, and so I think
Italy of course made it to the quarterfinal. There are
a lot of really cool storylines right now unfolding in
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Europe and they'll be back in a year, the Mets
and Phillies, and then after that the plan is Paris
for twenty twenty five. So I just think that the
way the game is growing around the world is beautiful
London Stadium, home of West Ham United. And by the way,
I did love the way that Kevin Burkhart welcomed our
friend Ken Rosendhald to the broadcast by introducing him as
Trent crim Do those do all those who followed Ted
(36:02):
Lasso you know that reference, And to all those who
do not, I hope we can still be friends.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Now let me ask you this, Rupert, before we let
you go last one hot take for you. We said this,
We talked about this the other night. If I said
to you this phrase, what do you think about its viability?
Ellie de la Cruz twenty twenty three National League Most
Valuable Player.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Tell you what it's at least somewhere on the radar.
And the reason why is is the Reds have a
legitimate chance. And then now we've seen some of their
vulnerability the last few days, they've dropped the few in
a row. But if the Reds are able to win
the division, let's put it this way, who has changed
the division race more than Elie Dela Cruz this season? Now?
(36:50):
I think right now you'd probably still give the edge
to Acunya. But if Ellie can find a way to
have these kinds of numbers and catapult a previously afterthought
Cincinnati Reds Ball Club into the playoffs, he'd have to
get some consideration. It's so interesting that you've got probably now,
if you want to go with the trendiest names in
(37:12):
each division, I would say NL East, it's Acunya, NL
Central it sure feels like Elie, and then out West
might be Corporck Carroll, another young rookie player. So the
future of the game is bright. A lot of new
faces in the National League right now, and I do
think I would say if I had to vote on
the NLMB at this exact moment, it would be Acunya.
(37:34):
But I'm telling you Elie de la Cruz has played
his way into that conversation.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
He is John Paul Morosi from MLB Network and The Independent.
He is covering on Wednesday night on MLB Network. You
got the Cardinals and the Astros JP.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Have a great time there, Gatwait, guys, my plan is
Saint Louis. We've got baseball, We've got the soccer Gold
Cup happening too, So I will do my best to
be a two sport insider this week.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
All right, very good? Hey tell him to run the
sand Man at the end. I think that play is
gonna wind up working.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Ah, there you go, well done, well done, And that
is a great show, isn't it just a beautifully done
ted lasso y.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I just hope it's not done and there We're gonna
see more of it at some point.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I believe that in my opinion, In my opinion, not
that I am an expert in such matters. I think
that was a mic drop for me.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Wow, can't leave that money on the table, JP, JP.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Take it easy, but I talk to you next week.
Great stuff is always from John Paul Morosi. I hope
he's wrong about that. Everything else is fine. I hope
he's wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I agree with him to a point. But I'm also
a guy. I'm a glutton for Can I find some
good TV to walk?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Can you bring back Gummy? Can you have Roy and
Coach Beard and Nate? Would they be fun enough?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Would they be fun enough to fight? I think it
would be. I think Brendan Hunt has plenty of stories
he can do with co Beard. He was moving along
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
You know, we almost SYNCD up our viewing in the
start of the show and everything perfectly because Bill Nye
with the green tone these ad doc times. We uh,
watch you endure another Mets loss? Yeah no, this was
perfect timing is walking into the studio. I watched vogel
(01:07):
back pop up to end the game. I'm like, that's it.
That's perfect. It's absolutely perfect, absolutely perfect. Listen, and there
he is staring you down with his eyes going, hey,
I love I love terrible times, I love how.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Today I'm glad we have a Harry Potter marathon on tonight.
Uh here I am, I am glad. I'm not glad.
I am shocked that. It's like everybody that rights on
the blogger sphere woke up today and said, oh, you know,
the Mets are really disappointed. Yeah, I know, the Mets
lost in the very Mets way yesterday. One hit in
the eighth inning, two hit by pitches, a basis loaded walk,
and everybody bet baty. Yes, I know, but don't wake
(01:41):
up to the fact and say, oh, hey, guess what
the Mets suck. We've I've known the Mets have sucked.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
For a long time.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Now long time.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You're bringing folks in because you know, some folks can't
work in multitask and cover more than one sport with
really bad content at a time. So once the NBA
draft was done and the well how high is the
ceiling for Victor when by Yama blogs and everything.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Else, it's wait, what's left? Oh, it's baseball season? See
what the Mets are doing Which team has been the
most disappointing and underwhelming? Do we get more hits if
we say the Mets. Do we get more hits if
we say the Padres? You know guess what it's uh,
it's yeah. Look, here's the thing. Let me just say
this before before I have a quiz for all of you.
(02:29):
We'll start things off. You're pretty good. Quiz for me?
That sucks? Well, yeah they do. Look, no, the Mets
and the Padres. Here we are now getting close to
the fourth of July holiday, and you can see some
of the teams that just have not been able to
adjust to the new rule changes, and some teams that
have been able to. Because what are we seeing an
uptick of now stolen bases? Hitting for average? Yeah, you're
(02:51):
just been talking about that for weeks, you know, Johnny
come lately. Yeah, you can't play the you can't play
the shift anymore. So now averages are up around baseball.
People are hit you. Luis a Riaz is making a
run at four hundred. More teams are stealing bases. Look
at these teams that are doing that, that are up near
the top of their division. The Diamondbacks are doing it.
You're seeing teams, Hey, I'm adjusting. The Reds are doing it.
(03:11):
We're adjusting Taalabat and the Mets and the Padres are
the two teams that just said we're just gonna throw
a bunch of talented guys out there and see what happens.
And who are the two biggest disappointments of the season
in baseball Mets and the Padres because they did not adjust.
We're just gonna a mass talent and throw it out there,
and you know what, can't do it now. Now you
have to figure out a way to get back to
playing baseball before the shift, before where was less predictable.
(03:33):
Now now it's hey, there's other things you need to
be doing. You can't put a bunch of guys out
there that hit two forty and expect all we're gonna
win a bunch of games. Can't do it. But those
two teams, they're the ones that are most disappointing because
they're just throwing guys out there and you have to
at some point realize, okay, these changes, we have to
adjust a little bit. Yeah, you've got two of the
six worst team batting averages in Major League Baseball when
(03:54):
you're looking at the Yankees and the Padres. Padres are
twenty fifth hitting a team two thirty two, and that's
despite the brilliance of Fernando Tatist Junior once he got back,
because he's been fantastic. And it's not a story because well,
again they stink, uh. And then you've got the Tigers,
they stink.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Mariners a disappointment coming in at twenty seventh, hitting to
twenty nine.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Somebody's World Series pick.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Mike, Yeah, well I had hopes to but tie. They're
tied for twenty sixth with Detroit. And then you've got
the Yankees at to twenty eight. And we've talked about it,
We made fun of it a bunch with ariahs Uh
and his performance versus that of the entire Yankees roster
not named Judge, and that going into the into the weekend,
(04:43):
Aria's had more hits than the rest of the Yankees
not named Judge. And now you get an update that
maybe Judge will come back maybe the second or third
week after the All Star Game, which gives you a
little bit of hope. But does that change fundamentally how
you're playing baseball. No, no, it does not. So it's
curious to see, you know, the first half superstars that
(05:04):
have emerged, a lot of big players, I know your
Elie Della Cruz getting a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Of run m V P m V.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Look where we're in that strange world where you're you're
always looking for new stories and and resurrection stories. And
certainly for the Cincinnati Reds, that's exactly where we're at.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But for the clubs that did not change, including your Mets,
all you did was spend a lot of money and
get older. And we spend a lot of money a
guy that's you know, a pivotal cog and everything, and
and no Pete Alonzo. It makes things a much more
difficult proposition. I mean, I should have known. I should
have known when Edwin Diaz got hurt celebrating in the
(05:42):
World Baseball Classic, buds folded up. Let's go back back
everything up. Let's like when you get to the beach
for a picnic and it's ready, let's just go time
to go home. Everybody go home, Well, everybody goes. We
tried to tell them, well, but that's the thing. As
soon as Timmy L. Trumpet was out there, he tried
to tell you as he went down, it was like,
all right, it's a long road ahead. That's why you
gotta be careful for how much you're so excited about
(06:04):
your gang Green coming up, buddy, because let's face it,
there's a lot of hooplin and tourism dollars being spent
with the excitement of him returning to prominence. Your guy
Aaron Rodgers that you want to be the producer of
this TV show. So yeah, be careful what you wish for.
The Mets suck. At the end of your first year,
(06:26):
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Slash match. Well, I always ask every year, I want
the Mets to get into the Jets, the Mets, the Jets,
the Mets. The Jets today get that bridge, and now
I may get there even earlier because the big NFL
(06:46):
news of the day, the New York Mets and the
rest of the NFL is bracing for the NFL to
make the Jets be the hard knocks team. We can't
really say no, but we will make you do it.
The Jets don't want to do it. There's four teams
that the league can tell them to do it and
they can't say no. The Jets, the Bears, the Saints,
(07:09):
looking and some of these teams are pretty decent, right,
they have pretty good storylines, right, And I've told you that. Hey,
you can see some stuff here and there, but clearly
the Jets would be the big winner because it's Aaron Rodgers.
It's everything new, there's Super Bowl hopes and it's Aaron Rodgers,
and hey, it's Aaron Rodgers. The league didn't want to
tell teams, hey, you have to do it, but they're
(07:31):
gonna tell the Jets. Apparently we are making you do this.
And you know what, I don't care. I know there's
so much. No team is gonna win or lose because
they did hard knocks. The Jets aren't gonna win or
lose Week one or in September because they did hard knocks.
Does it make things a little bit more difficult, Yeah,
it does. You don't really want cameras around, but still
(07:54):
you're still beholding the players, You're beholding the teammates, and
you're beholding to everybody else. You're not gonna win or lose.
Because of this. Does this mean you have to work
a little bit harder? Yeah, probably, but you're also coming
to Camp Fat more sooner than everybody else because you
have the Hall of Fame game. And in the end,
it really, are you worried? You just canceled the whole
the whole run of of of workouts because Aaron Rodgers said, yeah,
(08:15):
feeling good, man, I well just get a conference to
talk and we'll cancel everything. I gotta do a few
more run throughs of my speech. It's not perfect, but
it's good because it's you know, it's gonna be It's
gonna be a love fest because Aaron Rodgers is gonna say,
give me all the cameras, Let the guys do their thing.
You want me, give me all the cameras. This is
what I want. It's why he's in New York. It's
(08:36):
why I'm sure the Jets will wind up doing it,
because they'll call it. Aaron Rodgers will say, yeah, let's
do it. Why not, because it's just a bigger thing
for him, because he wants New York, because he wants
the brand. And we've talked about this before, and this
helps him with his brand. He this is before anything
really happens, he can still be even a bigger story.
I'm in New York now, I'm Aaron rod here, i
am at the Tony's. I'm here, I'm here. I'm going
(08:56):
to a Mets game. I'm not gonna go a metsican.
They think I'm going to Yankees game?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Now?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Does he just He's gonna find a way to make
it all about him, which is great because it's gonna
help him, and it's gonna help him with his brand.
It's gonna help the Jets at least not have everybody
else be in the crosshairs of things, except for the
players who want some of the spotlight. But this will
work out just fine. Aaron Rodgers will lead the Jets
through hard knocks like he's gonna lead the offense through
(09:20):
the season. I don't care you rolled your eyes to me,
blank you, Mike Carmon, We're going to the super Bowl
and you're not. Or I hope we come to the
super Bowl and we beat you guys forty nine to three.
That's what I really hope happened. We'll be in Vegas
one way or another. Jets, Saints, Bears, and the Commanders
was the fourth team you were looking for. Look, we
talked about it all I was looking for that. I
just moved on in my head. I's moved on to
(09:42):
think about Sam Howell and the Jet Commanders. I actually
do have stuff on Sam Hobbell. We'll save that for
all the time.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, you know what, the card market is already getting
ahead of your big, bold predictions.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
But when when it comes down to it, you're you're
looking at a a sequence here for Aaron Rodgers, where
a lot of this has been about brand re establishment.
Now he doesn't care what you think about his you know,
larger pharmaceutical concerns and those kind of things, and he
lost a lot of fans, a lot of big talking
(10:15):
points going on all that. But you soften it, right,
you're a couple of years removed. For some folks, they
either didn't hear it or didn't care. But now you
go to New York and you're the greatest tourists that
we've ever seen. Love everything about of here. Come out
a trip with me.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
We're gonna go to insert museum X, and it can
be all about Aaron Rodgers. The Aaron Rodgers you never
knew or understood or whatever else. For the bears so
much going on there. I mean, you do have a
guy that's modeling right now overseas, so I guess you
can go that's that's good Hard knocks overseas.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Problem that it's also the same guy that people are
saying is not ready to be an every down player
Chase Clayboo yeah, which is really nothing that you haven't
heard on this show before. But overseas market saying Okay,
they'll just take anything for Americans, but then the Saints, uh,
(11:08):
you know, Aaron Rodgers, but just for that, that's the
what they want. Hapically, I don't want to hear him
have to force it like he's been method acting like
you can have some fun with that. One will be
down easy exactly, will be great.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
It's like that kid Happy Gilmour that got his scholarship
and Adam Sandler got all excited for him. But I mean,
they're their storylines certainly to be had with all. But
it's nice and easy. Hey, Aaron, you do this. It's
New York, New Jersey. It's a monster market and you
know what we say, so right, because it's could be
the exact opposite there, Come on in if you will.
(11:52):
It's not gonna be quite Sanchez t Bow of years ago,
where I was there for a couple of those practices,
that's about as wild as ever got. It was almost
like they told people to turn the cameras off once
they started running drills with Tebow.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Because it was so bad, such bad football.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But the other part is, you know, you've got Denver
where Sean Payton's basically not gonna let anybody in. There's
gonna be no radio shows, not a lot of video.
It's gonna be beat it. I mean, Russell Wilson's gonna
be in the greatest shape of his life. All of
those things are coming together. But yeah, open door policy
for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I'm telling you it's gonna be
fine because he wants this. He want and this is
(12:30):
why it's good. This is why it's gonna work out.
Put all the cameras on me, let me do everything
can be about me.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
It's okay. I feel good. I got a good team
behind me. I'm ready to go. I got Him's gardener.
The only two people you need to follow with that,
that's all, doesn't matter, doesn't matter the Jets watch how
a gardener holds on to the person filming him at
everything else, you will get to see how a Super
Bowl team is built from the ground up and training
camp this year with the Jets on hard knucks, and
(12:56):
you won't have to produce a post super Bowl documentary.
Then it's already ready sorry, it's all ready to go,
already ready Boom.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
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Speaker 1 (13:53):
We have said, you and I have talked a long
time about certain certain historic achievements that we love seeing
in that are becoming a dying breed that we're not
going to get to see anymore. And up until yesterday,
I thought, you guys have to had time to think
about it, look into it. I thought, well, we were
not going to see another huge milestone that always takes
(14:15):
over in Major League Baseball, that Miguel Cabrera got his
three thousand hit a couple of years ago. All Right,
you know what, Miguel Cabrera, that's the last three thousand
hit guy we're going to see. Very well be the
last guy we're going to see. Except yesterday, well we
saw this two.
Speaker 6 (14:31):
And one to Freeman flyball right center, racing on back Tucker,
he can't get it arriving at second base. Freddie Freeman
career hit two thousand and all together, fitting and proper
it is, with its double and a standing ovation for
Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Joelway's dyninger on AM five to seventy with a call
Freddie Freeman the two thousandth hit of his career yesterday
in the Dodgers loss to the Astros. Hold on a second,
not seeing another guy get to three thousand, it's because
you and I are looking at in our lifetimes, twenty
years are gonna go by at least, but before we
(15:12):
see somebody with three thousand. It's because that's how long
it takes. Right, we're at twenty and no one's playing
right now that could get there. But now you got
Freddy Freeman. There's one other thirty three years old at
two thousand hits right well, and Frostburg's favorite guy in baseball.
We we've marked out two players Jose al Tuove. Yeah,
(15:32):
those are the true guy because he's almost at two thousand.
He's thirty nine hitch short. As we go through. What's amazing, though,
is you go through the the annals of Major League
Baseball history and what twood look because three thousand has
always been a magic number, right, three hundred wins was.
But that's certainly that metric has changed some of the
(15:55):
RBI totals or era totals that we've been excited about
home run record. We've watched bounce all over the place,
and you know, historically and career, single season, all of
that stuff has been different, but the hit total is
one that it's with the changing game, and perhaps now
we swing the pendulum back a little bit with all
(16:18):
the rule changes, that maybe we see an uptick there.
But he is only the two hundred and ninetieth guy
in Major League Baseball history to get to two thousand. Yeah. Right,
there's only one hundred guys. This is you know, quick math,
only one hundred guys who have more than twenty five
hundred hits in Major League baseball history. It thins out
(16:40):
just that fast. Now between the two of them, I'm
I don't think al Tuoba is gonna get there because
he's a guy that has not been the same player. Well,
you know, since the size he's not been his his
hit totals have really decreased over the course of the
past five or six years. Like he had four straight
years of two hundred hits and now it's now he's
averaging you know, one sixty nine has been his high number,
(17:04):
and you're not going to get there at one sixty nine.
That's going to be very difficult, especially when he's had
injury issues as well and his hit totals a little
bit lower. But Freddy Freeman is someone who was proving
at thirty three. I'm still hitting at an MVP type level,
and I can keep this going. Freddy Freeman is going
to finish this. He's got ninety seven hits now, probably
finish somewhere around two thousand and eighty, right, So let's
(17:27):
say that if he finishes around twenty eighty, if he
plays five more years, he needs one hundred and eighty
a year. Now, that's a lot as you get to
thirty four, thirty five, thirty six, thirty seven, thirty eight,
that's a lot. But the next six years now he
only needs about one hundred and fifty a year, And
especially with as time goes on, he'll start dhing because
(17:49):
he's still playing first base every day, which at some point,
all right, you got to give that up. Maybe not now,
but when you get to be thirty four to thirty five, Okay,
maybe you're you're playing first base a couple of days
a week and your deation the rest of la as
you're hitting like this, that's going to extend his career.
You talked about the rule changes. Now without being able
to have the shift, that's going to help. So yeah,
I get Freddie Freeman's the guy like he's the he's
(18:11):
the guy that can get to three thousand hits. Now,
it's probably about a thirty percent chance because again, he's
gonna be have to be playing at a high level,
because not like you can you can stack up great
years and have a bad year after, right, you know,
you don't stack up hits like one year I get
two hundred and eighty hits, next year I get a hundred. No,
your big years are gonna be around one hundred and eighty.
You can't get you can't. You're not gonna get two
(18:32):
hundred and two to twenty hits a year. One eighty
one eighty five is what you're thinking about. So you
can't have that one eighty five then have a one
to twenty year, right, So you have to have really
good years the next five or six. You gotta be
playing extremely well, be playing every day when you're thirty six,
thirty seven, thirty eight. That's the tough test. That's all.
Ill put it about thirty percent chance, But where was
zero percent up until Freddy signs of the Dodgers. Prusy
(18:56):
still is this kind of hitter, and he can one
hundred and eighty hit yeah, Freddy for thirty chance lo
gi him. He can get that. Well, we get to
the fun and exciting world that is the Dodgers that
you know, even though this year is a little different,
new faces and some changeouts, He's gonna rake. And there
are going to be times where you get the rest
of the lineup that's hitting with you. Right, they're they're
(19:18):
not gonna stand pat The roster will turn over a
bit more and you'll have more guys, maybe at Choho
Tani coming up to five, whatever the case may be,
you'll have more people, more protection and opportunities. But watching
the how dialed in he is at times, I mean,
he is the best hitter in baseball. I think we
stipulate to that right now, Right when when you talk
(19:42):
about a guy that sprays the ball all over h
and when when he's locked in your pitcher has no
chance we see him. I take a rias right now,
this moment in time, because he's a in four hundred.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
But overall, but.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
I'm talking, I'm talking about a larger sample.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, right, all right, is just dialed in and and
and I think we're all to some degree, you're not
because you you hate fun things, but the and because
I'm we bring up a guy that isn't a Dodger
is really more of the crux of the argument, Like
I'm curious to see how far it can go. And
(20:19):
I love that we were gonna continue to get the
graphics of how many more hits ariahs has over different
large contingents of teams that were expected to contend. Right,
every time you can put up that graphic of the Yankees,
it's laughable, right, And here's a picture of Aaron Judd
sitting barefoot playing with his dog because that's where he's
(20:42):
at in his rehabilitation and getting back on the field.
You've got to have a fun, happy moment because the
rest of it.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Is what are we gonna do? So, yeah, his story
is fun. But when we talk about guys with consistency
and just year after year the level of excellence. Added
to the fact that you've got your guy in Mookie Betts,
who was on the Great Food Truck Racey, Yes, yeah, yeah,
that was that was a pretty good episode. You know,
I think the fix was in once those guys were
(21:10):
revealed to be from Boston as he went and saw
them bowling ball with him or no, no, he was, uh,
what they have one hundred and fifty people.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
They had to cater stuff too, uh and come up
with twists on traditional ballpark treats, which was fun. It
was a fun episode. But Mooky was there. So you know,
you've got perennial all stars alongside you. I'm curious to
see where where it can go. You've got five or
six more years before we're talking about those numbers, but
it'll be a fun run to watch.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Look at this for Freddy Freeman. His first ten years,
he had over three hundred four times, right, was still
pretty I mean, not that he was hitting, but he's
in two seventy five to eighty two nines, but over
three hundred four times first ten years, his last four
years over three hundred every year. I mean, he's one
of those guys that's getting better and hitting the ball
(22:00):
even better as he's getting older, in better lineups. Because remember,
he left a pretty loaded Braves team to come to
a pretty loaded Dodgers team. And now suddenly when you
don't have to worry about being the loane threat in
a lineup, or when the young the Braves are coming around,
and I know how sad he was to leave the
Braves do that Steve's gonna come get you. This is
I mean, this is now you're looking at a guy
(22:21):
who is on his way, and as is the guy
with a chance to get to three thousands. Because all
the other things we may never see three hundred wins
in Major League Baseball, may never see that again, I
mean really again, twenty years away, because there's no one
playing right now who can get there. And if Freddie
Freeman doesn't get there for three thousand, it's no one's
gonna get there for twenty years.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
What's fun, though, is also I'd love to have the
analysis and kind of the observations from people around the
Dodger organization of how he's developed as a hitter and
in his approach right because one of the things we
talk about with the Dodgers and.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Some of these rule theories that they may want to
implement going forward is the use of technology, scouting and
all of that stuff as related to the big lead
team that you may have to change up some of that.
Wonder how much being and not that Atlanta's you know,
down in the low spenders of anything. I'm not saying
(23:16):
that at all. If nothing else they've shown, they'll be
aggressive if they think a player is the guy. But
with the Dodgers, that's one of the big hallmarks of
this team, right, is their developmental process and the amount
of money that they spend. We complain when Dave Roberts
comes out to grab a pitcher because while the science
(23:37):
says make it so right and would be no hitters
and everything else, I'd be curious to see, you know
that bridge and the work put behind the scenes with
technology and you know, advanced scouting stats and everything else.
That then how much that's helped is his approach as well,
not just because he's got a big LA on his logo.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
There be sure to catch live editions of The Jason
Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern,
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app well.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Joining us now on the hotline as we get set
for trade season. For the season, we hope Aaron Judge
is coming back. It's NABY Network Insider Extraordinaire. You can
follow him on Twitter at John Morosi. That's at John Morosi,
John Paul Morossi with us. What's happened to JP?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Good evening, Good morning here in the Eastern time zone,
and yes, this is about that time. Today I found
myself sharing trade related updates about Andrew McCutcheon, Jamber Candelario,
Il Tomorrow, Vargas and there are many more to come.
So I'm trying to get my trade deadline reporting in
(24:51):
the midseason form right now.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well, here's the thing. To all of those, you can
add the entire Mets roster and now you got to
add that's twenty more names to it.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Well, Jason, there's a lot going on right there, and
as you well know, but I suppose I'll turn it.
I'll turn this question as an opener back to you
and say this, given everything that we've seen from Steve
Cohen during his time as the Mets owner, what is
(25:19):
realistic to expect in the next month from him?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
I would say, we we're gonna dump the guys we
can that are old and in the last year or
two of their deal, like Canna will get traded, Marte
will try to get traded. They'll swallow some of the money.
The big thing, and you and I have talked about
this is I feel like you know you're stuck with
Shirtzer and Fertlander. But shirts has been pitching better now.
But they're stuck with both of them. They're stuck. They're stuck.
(25:45):
We'll spend money, but we're stuck. JP. We keep spending
money on players, but they come in and don't play, well,
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
That's that's correct, And so you can Here's the thing, Jason,
and this winter, when whenever free agency opens, the conversation
will immediately say, well, shouldn't you go and sign Otani?
And I don't think that's going to happen. I don't
(26:15):
because part of the reason is Otani when he arrived
at the Angels, they were a team that had some
age to it, was in a competitive division, and was
not winning. And those same qualities seem to apply to
the Mets right now. I just don't see. And here's
(26:36):
here's to me, the real way to look at this.
O'tani has has made money. Certainly, he's going to make
a ton of money no matter where he signs. He
will make this decision. He's going to make so much
money in my view, that that in some way at
(26:58):
the end it's not going to be all about the
money because there's going to be so much of it.
Similar to Aaron Judge, Aaron Judge did not sign with
the top offer. He signed with the Yankees. The Yankees
did not make the high offer. And so Otani's going
to look at this. And what I'm here to tell you,
Jason is there's maybe one in one hundred outcomes in
(27:22):
which Otani will look around and at the teams that
are at a certain threshold of offers where he might
conclude that the Mets have the best team of those
teams that make those the high dollar offers. I just
I don't see that happening. So this is where do
we see someone who grew up as a Mets fan
(27:42):
in David Stearns. Will he get added to the Mets
front office this winter as they try to have a
Brewers like level of discipline and focus while still spending
like the Mets can And is he able to thread
that needle through through those different schools of thought? Maybe?
(28:03):
But this is not a quick fix. And if there's
one thing that we know, it's that when you have
an expensive team that that is not winning. This reminds
me of and I'm gonna make a rare Morosi cross
sport reference. Go back and check out the four oh
(28:23):
five New York Knicks of Stefan Marbury and Steve Francis
and and that's that's basically what we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
You just dropped the camera on you there. Well, I
mentioned more of your teams, Jason, that you liked. That
disappointed you. I'm gonna keep going back here. Here you go.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Well, I mean to be honest, I didn't even know
how that would land, but I kind of felt like
that was pretty much where we're going right now.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
This is I was a flying elbow.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Then you let it right to my icke twenty years ago.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
I don't know if that's positive or negative reinforcement, but
it's reinforcement of a point.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
It's all and it's negative, So I guess it's negative reinforcements.
There you go. Well, but if it was a positive correlation,
it was, but it was of a negative impact in
the dative story. Jump on Brossi our guest here Fox
Sports Radio Jason Smith Show with me Mike Harman here
from the tire Raq dot Com studios at John Morosi
where you find him on Twitter. J O N mrs.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I leave out that h mom said, so so JP,
let's stay in New York Aaron Judge. We saw him
frolicking with his dog barefoot on the field, confirms a.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Ligament tear and a toe. How fast is he getting back,
because Big Stein's starting to get upset.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Well, I still believe that Judge can be back by
the end of July. There are some scenarios in which
that is realistic. But to your point, it's a big
leap from being able to walk barefoot and get your
toe somehow just used to being on grass again and
(30:00):
doing something that involves movement on grass and then hitting
with the absolute authority of one of the strongest humans
ever to play the game of baseball. Those are two
very different physical activities, and I just don't know. There's
tremendous amounts of uncertainty right now about exactly when Judge
(30:24):
will come back, although I do believe that by this
time next month he'll be back on a field doing
something and at least will have made an effort in
terms of getting back in major league game conditions to
test out that toe and see what he can do
when the lights are brightest. But to me, there's a
very real chance that Judge, as we know Judge from
(30:47):
last year, that he's maybe not quite going to be
able to get back to one hundred percent this season
until something is potentially dealt with during the course of
the winter time. That to me, is where we're at.
I do think, well, I do completely believe we're going
to see him back at some point this season. But
the effectiveness, I think is a gigantic variable that no one,
(31:11):
not Aaron Judge, not any of us can really speak
to right now with any degree of confidence.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
John Paul Morosi, our guest the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Carmon Live and thetiraq dot Com studios. All right
to to another topic we got into his and this
is something that I wanted to bring it up with
you because we've had this conversation many times over the
past of years about the number of milestone achievements in
baseball that we're never going to see anymore. Are we
going to see in our lifetime somebody win three hundred games?
(31:40):
Probably not. I would have said the same thing for
three thousand hits after Miguel Cabrera. But here you are yesterday.
Freddie Freeman gets to two thousand. He's at three hundred
each of his last four years. He seems to be
getting better as he's getting older. I give him like
a thirty percent chance to maybe in five and a
half years, we actually somebody, and it's Freddy Freeman get
(32:02):
to three thousand hits.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, that's fair. I think he's he will probably have
to play until he's forty to have a realistic shot
at this, and I think he could. You look at
his his swing reminds me of a bit of like
Joe Mauer swing, and I think if Joe had stayed healthy,
he would have had a chance to three thousand. I
(32:26):
think Freddy just has a really unique profile. He's someone
that is so committed to getting his hits every night.
And you probably saw it heard in the beautiful video
that the Dodgers shared of the champagne toast that Freddy
had with his teammates in the clubhouse, and he talked
(32:47):
about just competing every day, wanting so badly to compete,
and you have to do that, I believe, in your
own way to get to three thousand hits. You think
about Adrian Beltrey, who I think a lot of fans
don't often remember that he got there. In terms of
the guys that we cite in recent years, Pools Cabrera,
(33:08):
but before them it was Beltray, and I think that
Beltray's career and Freddy's career are somewhat similar, And I
think Beltray had to play until he was forty to
get there, So that, to me is what's likely going
to be the case for Freddy as well. Tremendous teammate,
great magician with the bat, someone who is a real
throwback and how he plays the game, and his reliability
(33:30):
and how often he wants to be on the field.
So I think too it's pretty cool that he has
been able to find this second home there in Los Angeles,
which is actually his first home. He grew up in California.
But the one thing that I hope, and obviously it's
far out of his control, far out of any of
our controls, is that the shortened season in twenty twenty
(33:52):
where we played the sixty games, that losing those hundred
games doesn't eventually impact the bottom line too much. I mean,
I'm just hoping that he's able to get beyond that
and still get there on time. But that milestone, that
lost season, that's real. That's two thirds of the year
basically that those players didn't have in twenty twenty. I
(34:14):
think that's something we should all watch and care for here.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
As time goes on JP over the weekend, we see
all the stats of attendance and everything else, but we
also set a series of traditional rivals over to London,
and for Fox we brought Derek Jeter to the party
as well.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
How does that go over? What were the immediate reactions
to that? Great?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I think overall, tremendous event. Loved the moment there with
Poppy giving Derek a Red Sox jersey for his birthday,
and Derek's reaction was classic. That is that for someone
as gracious as Derek, that is about as much as
much contempt as you'll ever see from him on television,
(34:56):
which I thought was great, Just a really really fun
way to welcome him to the Fox family. I think
he did a great job. Great producers of course on
that show, and the phenomenal Kevin Burkhart hosting it, so
a great conversation there, I thought all the way around him.
And it's a big event. I really think that you
see how much bigger this event is now even than
(35:17):
it was for the first time back in twenty nineteen,
and you're seeing the growth of baseball in Europe. You
saw great Britain play was so well in the World
Baseball Classic. Check you have played well in the Classic
the Netherlands that are always there, and so I think
Italy of course made it to the quarterfinal. There are
a lot of really cool storylines right now unfolding in
(35:38):
Europe and they'll be back in a year, the Mets
and Phillies, and then after that the plan is Paris
for twenty twenty five. So I just think that the
way the game is growing around the world is beautiful
London Stadium, home of West Ham United. And by the way,
I did love the way that Kevin Burkhart welcomed our
friend Ken Rosendhald to the broadcast by introducing him as
Trent crim Do those do all those who followed Ted
(36:02):
Lasso you know that reference, And to all those who
do not, I hope we can still be friends.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Now let me ask you this, Rupert, before we let
you go last one hot take for you. We said this,
We talked about this the other night. If I said
to you this phrase, what do you think about its viability?
Ellie de la Cruz twenty twenty three National League Most
Valuable Player.
Speaker 4 (36:26):
Tell you what it's at least somewhere on the radar.
And the reason why is is the Reds have a
legitimate chance. And then now we've seen some of their
vulnerability the last few days, they've dropped the few in
a row. But if the Reds are able to win
the division, let's put it this way, who has changed
the division race more than Elie Dela Cruz this season? Now?
(36:50):
I think right now you'd probably still give the edge
to Acunya. But if Ellie can find a way to
have these kinds of numbers and catapult a previously afterthought
Cincinnati Reds Ball Club into the playoffs, he'd have to
get some consideration. It's so interesting that you've got probably now,
if you want to go with the trendiest names in
(37:12):
each division, I would say NL East, it's Acunya, NL
Central it sure feels like Elie, and then out West
might be Corporck Carroll, another young rookie player. So the
future of the game is bright. A lot of new
faces in the National League right now, and I do
think I would say if I had to vote on
the NLMB at this exact moment, it would be Acunya.
(37:34):
But I'm telling you Elie de la Cruz has played
his way into that conversation.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
He is John Paul Morosi from MLB Network and The Independent.
He is covering on Wednesday night on MLB Network. You
got the Cardinals and the Astros JP.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Have a great time there, Gatwait, guys, my plan is
Saint Louis. We've got baseball, We've got the soccer Gold
Cup happening too, So I will do my best to
be a two sport insider this week.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
All right, very good? Hey tell him to run the
sand Man at the end. I think that play is
gonna wind up working.
Speaker 4 (38:08):
Ah, there you go, well done, well done, And that
is a great show, isn't it just a beautifully done
ted lasso y.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
I just hope it's not done and there We're gonna
see more of it at some point.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
I believe that in my opinion, In my opinion, not
that I am an expert in such matters. I think
that was a mic drop for me.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Wow, can't leave that money on the table, JP, JP.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Take it easy, but I talk to you next week.
Great stuff is always from John Paul Morosi. I hope
he's wrong about that. Everything else is fine. I hope
he's wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (38:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
I agree with him to a point. But I'm also
a guy. I'm a glutton for Can I find some
good TV to walk?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Can you bring back Gummy? Can you have Roy and
Coach Beard and Nate? Would they be fun enough?
Speaker 4 (38:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (38:54):
Would they be fun enough to fight? I think it
would be. I think Brendan Hunt has plenty of stories
he can do with co Beard. He was moving along
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Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.