The Best of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon

Chris Plank and Arnie Spanier, in for Jason and Mike, react live to the Falcons holding off a late surge from the Rams on Monday night. The guys dive into the College Football Playoff ahead of the second round. Tide 100.9 Tuscaloosa Radio Host Ryan Fowler joins the guys to preview the Rose Bowl between Alabama and Indiana. Plus, the guys look at some superstar quarterbacks that may stay or leave this offseason!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
This is the best of the Jason Smith Show with
Mike Harmon on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
Let's go, steaking genius.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
Oh, let's go, let's go, let's go.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
What's happening on Monday Night football right now? Is causing
me to reevaluate a lot of things?

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Yeah, I have.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
First of all, how hilarious is it to find out
that the winner take all Saturday night Buccaneers Panthers game
might not be winner take all? Because, as Robert g
just pointed out, who said hey to me and then
proceeded to say nothing after saying Hi, So I hope
you're doing well, rob Wow? But yeah, I know he's like,

(01:02):
he's like, hey, what's going on? Like, dude, how about
our raiders? Nothing but that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Just walked away from you, just.

Speaker 5 (01:08):
Gone just walked away. I think he thought he was
talking to you. That's righter fans will nabby now very snappy. Well,
you know, odd Cup, that's big time around.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
It is big time.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Robbed an evening acknowledge we were in. I mean, but
how funny is it? First of all, I heard Rob
g say this, and I wasn't even aware of it,
that if the Falcons win their last two games, regardless
of what happens on Saturday, the Panthers are in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (01:31):
Yeah, I'm I'm glad. See now I get to say this.
I'm glad you listened to me yesterday. Me and the
Seger both said that in one of the updates, it
was it wasn't the last minute thing, but you have
the Falcons win both games, but nobody thought it.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
Was gonna happen. Somebody just said, I forget about it,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well, or they just added to their lead with a
fifty six yard field goal and with seven forty six
to go in the third quarter of the Falcons lead
the Rams twenty forty three.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
In my defense, you say a lot.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Of things that we have to fix on Sunday night.
There's a lot of things we have to jumble double
triple stamp. But b Jhon Robinson tonight has said an
Atlanta Falcons record for most yards from scrimmage in a
Falcons season automatically like the first name that comes to mind.
It's like, Hu'd beat Jamal Anderson, Billy White Shoes Johnson.
Don't know off the top of my head who had

(02:22):
that record. It might have been him, but b Jhon
Robinson sets that mark. And I don't know. Maybe this
is wrong, maybe I'm not thinking about it the right way,
but I'm one of those guys that thought Stafford was
a lot for the MVP, thought the Rams were going
to be a team that we'd be seeing on Championship Sunday.
Now watching this tonight, I don't know, man, It's got

(02:44):
me questioning and rethinking everything. We hardly talked about this
game last night.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
I know, but you know, because one is that fair though, Well,
you're right, we hardly talked about it, as I thought
it really had very little meaning except for the Rams
out there too, is very isn't fair to go ahead
and base the guys a year year on the first
half of football or even this whole game, And obviously
with Devanta Adams out, and I know everybody has injuries.

(03:09):
You know, it's just he's had a remarkable year. He
really has. Matter of fact, there was some people saying,
I think I said this over to you, that if
he won the super Bowl this year, he'll go down
as one of the great quarterbacks in the NFL of
all time.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
Well, let's let's be clear when you say some people
it was one guy and it was Dana Roloski.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah it was. But I liked it. I thought it
was a good, good day.

Speaker 5 (03:32):
So there's some people out there, Oh you mean Dan
Orrolotski one person that said it.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Okay, yeah, some people. I was right.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
The other funny, the other funny wording that you sent
me today that I couldn't help it laugh at. Yeah,
And welcome into the Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmen.
Arnie is basically your shown. I think this is the
third straight show that you've been sitting in.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I don't give or take something like that, and.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
You finally let me sit in with you, so thank you.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
Well, you sent me the two from Adam Schefter, and
I've I've laughed at this verbiage all day long.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
He's the real Adam Schefter isn't it that I send
you the real one?

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Or no, no, you did.

Speaker 5 (04:11):
And this was actually from the Pat McAfee show, and
the phrasing was this, Adam Schefter said on the Pat
McAfee show quote, it's in the realm of possibility that
Mike Tomlin leaves this dealers with a loss on Sunday.
Who uses that kind of phrasing in life or in sports? Arnie,

(04:31):
within the realm of possibility? What the hell are you
even talking about, Adam Schefter? What are we doing here?

Speaker 6 (04:37):
It isn't the realm of possibility though, you know, I
think we've said that possibility.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
We said, do you think Tabal would keep his job?

Speaker 3 (04:44):
And going?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Well, it is in the realm of possible, could keep it,
could not keep it? You never know.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
I understand there's there's some sports fans that are on
another plane when it comes to verbiage, their vocabulary and
their education. But we're all just kind of hay seeds.
I mean, we're just simpletons.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
Man.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
You don't have to sound fancy, you don't have to
use big words, you don't have to use some sort
of phrasing.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Is he leaving or not?

Speaker 5 (05:11):
If they lose, it's that realm of possibility. Anyway, welcome
to the show tonight. I found myself very surprised with
your rundown, Arnie. For every show we do and for
those that haven't had a chance to catch us before.
Arnie and I do the Sunday night show here on
Fox Sports Radio. We've been blessed to be doing the
ten p to two a Eastern show for.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
Like twelve years something like that.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
I hate to celebrate anniversaries Beeaca the way, but what
I say, ten peter two give next time. See it's
ten PCE Central time, and I tried to be fancy
and use the Eastern time zone and it threw me off.
I don't like celebrating anniversaries in radio because usually that's
the point where someone looks at another person in management
and goes think it's about.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
Time for a change.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
They've been doing that for a long time. Long enough, Yeah,
that's long enough. So we worked together every Sunday night.
So if you were around, or if you picked up
a podcast today, or if you caught it last night,
there could be a lot of repetition from last night's show.
But no, no, no, we wipe the slate clean. We
get a fresh Roman numeral rundown. So I laid out

(06:16):
because every single show we do, Arnie doesn't use spreadsheets,
he doesn't use Excel, he doesn't use a power point
or or word or whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
He hasn't believed friendship.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, well, your penmanship is terrible, but you break out
a yellow pad and you use Roman numerals to write
down all the topics you want to get to. And
sometimes the Roman numerals are like the same things four
different ways, right. But I found myself in shock that
whenever I opened up the Roman numeral rundown today, Arnie,
to see that the number one topic you had was

(06:50):
the college football playoffs.

Speaker 6 (06:52):
I know, well, because it's I'm kind of getting mixed
up with all the dates. Like I said, you've been
working this shift in that shift, and it's Wednesday. It
starts on a Wednesday, that's right. So Miami with Ohio State,
with the whole other slew of bowl games which well
probably won't pay attention to except for maybe Michigan and Texas,
and then you got the other three on Thursday on

(07:15):
the first.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
So I'm ready to roll.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
I'm I'm looking forward to a somewhat of a close
Miami of Ohio State game.

Speaker 4 (07:21):
I think I've talked to myself in the game being closer.

Speaker 6 (07:24):
Then everybody's giving Miami credit for I.

Speaker 5 (07:28):
Talked with Bob Stoops today on my local show on
our affiliate out of Oklahoma City and thought the same thing.
You and I like minded here whenever it comes to
the playoffs. I think Miami's got some dudes. And I
think sometimes in college football we gauge a team solely
on its quarterback, and Carson back hasn't been all that
fantastic consistently this year. So I think a lot of

(07:49):
people just look in Miami and say, oh, well, they'll
go as far as bet goes.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
But man, I think they're pretty good. I mean, I
think they're really good.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Do you think the teams that got the buy or
that didn't have to play obviously going to have the
big advantage or is that just going to be a
small advantage in this one?

Speaker 5 (08:07):
They were all to four last year the teams had
got the buy, but also last season, all four teams
had played a home playoff game one. This year they
went to and two, with the Sooners and the Aggies
both losing at home, while Oregon and Oh Gosh who
else was that took care of business in a big
time way.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
So that's a good question. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
A lot of colleges are very used to it because
you've had ole miss I'm sorry, you've had this amount
of breaks between big games for a really long time
in college football, where the end of the regular season
or even a conference championship game, you're waiting from about
December sixth, seventh, or eighth until January first before you
play your big game, right historically, so to me, there's

(08:54):
familiarity with a lot of the teams that have been
on the by Signetti has been around Nick Saban forever.
He's learned how to handle that. Obviously, Kirby Smart's done
it before. So I guess the only team that might
be pretty unique is what Texas Tech because they had
never been in this situation by the way touchdown rams.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
So that's a good question.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I don't know, Arnie, and I'll be real interested to
see because I don't think the odds makers really care
about it too terribly much. I think in kind of
the way they've looked at the spreads, that hasn't really
been too much of a factor.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
The rest versus rust conversation.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
Right. And by the way, remember when I keep thinking
of the what was it the agent that we had
a right that I had on Oh yeah, we played it.
The guy that was like Texas Tech played for a championship.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Thought the man was crazy. He thought the man was nuts.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
Now again, he did blow some smoke about the offer
that was out there for his play, right, you know
that was that was a little bit of fake news.
But what we did find out is Texts Text put
together hell of a roster and they're gonna be a
for a long time because apparently there are no rules
anymore in college football and you can just pay whatever
you want, whenever you want. And Tech, by god, they're

(10:08):
gonna do it. And if there's no one that's gonna
stop you, go for it. Cody Campbell, I'm here for it.
But are you is this in any way, shape or
form lead you to think that they're gonna take care
of Oregon? Are you leaning that way?

Speaker 7 (10:20):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
You know, I I'm that's.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
Really a coin flip for me. I can see either
team winning it. I'm I'm going with Oregon, but I
want Oregon to win. But man, Texas Tech is just
so good offensively they got the resident. I mean, not
that Oregon put out a whole heck of a lot
in their game. Gosh, I just go back and forth,
like I get the fill in Texas Tech's got the
better offense too, So I mean, I'm probably.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Gonna go with Oregon in this one. But it is
a coin flip game.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
It is wild that you wanted to talk college football
playoffs right off the top, because Bursch has hooked us
up with a great guest, a man who is gonna
be covering the Rose Bowl, Ryan Faller from TIED Radio
in Tuscaloosa, is gonna join us and we'll break down
all things Ty Simpson, all things Alabama related. But I

(11:07):
that's coming up in our next segment. But I did
want to rap our college football talk with this. There
is one thing that we fight a lot, we disagree
a lot, and the Sager's part of this too, because
he's with us every Sunday night. There's a lot of
different teams that we think are good and you think
they suck, and I think the teams suck and you
think they're good, and players so on and so forth.

(11:27):
But there is one I think across the sports world,
take that everyone agrees upon Arnie and that it's necessary
to have more home playoff games and fewer Bowl games.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
When it comes to playoffs.

Speaker 6 (11:40):
Oh, absolutely, I'm more home sites. Yeah, I would like to.
I wish this round was another home round and then
you could have the Final four at a neutral site
and then the championship. That would have been okay with
me to work that one out. But yeah, I need yeah,
I need a bunch of home games. I love the atmosphere,
the fans. It's too expensive to think that the fans

(12:02):
are traveling right now before New Year's, after Christmas to
go to the rows of the Cotton or wherever, to
spend money on tickets and housing and rentals and all
that stuff.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
It's just it's just not going to happen. It really
isn't all right.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
The Rams are trying to scratch and claw themselves back
into this football game. Touchdown Matt Stafford. So is he
the leader for the MVP again? Four fifty nine to
go in the third quarter, the Falcons lead at twenty
four to ten.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
We'll keep eyes on this.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Game, and Chris one thing we have to keep a
eye on it. I don't want to go ahead and
throw it make a left turn here. But it just
happened before we got on the air. Jokic for Denver
went down with a serious, I mean a serious knee injury.
I was reading it on Twitter. Doctor Chow, you know
who talks about this type of stuff. He said, he's

(12:52):
hoping it's not an ACL, but they're gonna do medical
tests all through all the night.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
We won't.

Speaker 6 (12:57):
I don't think we're gonna get an answer on this
until tomorrow. But there's they're talking that it could possibly
be in ACL and the way he was clutching it.
You know, when you're clutching and you're in pain, you
could tell somebody. I don't know, I just did. It
could be fifty to fifty at this point. I don't
think we're gonna find out tonight though I'm that situation.

Speaker 5 (13:17):
Probably not. But you know, I've been home. I'm in
Saint Louis or just outside of Saint Louis. So gambling,
sports gambling, sports wagering is legal here. I live in
the state typically whether it's not, and so everything that's
on my Twitter feed and every advertisement is DraftKings or
fan duel or fanatics, and there's been a lot of

(13:40):
buzz on my timeline that they're honoring all prop bets. Yeah,
we're impacted by Nicola Jokicch's second quarter injury, or at
the very least something called at fanatics book, they call
it the home Affair. Play will honor all player prop
bets that have been impacted by Nicole Jokich's second quarter injury.
I wonder, Arnie, if this ends up becoming season affecting

(14:02):
and season ending. I wonder if they'll go as far
as far as impacting those season long props if people
had on him.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
I'm not sure about that. There is a video of
him getting hurt.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
There was a go I mean, every game's on TV, aren't.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
Right, But there was a good, good, you know, view
of it, and it looked serious. Man, it really did,
especially the way he was clutching it and everything. And
everybody got on Twitter and they're like, oh my goodness,
please tell me it's not his ACL.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
So we'll just keep our fingers crossed on that.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
Yeah, I mean, it'd be tough, he is. The Nuggets
are looking pretty good this year. I mean, listen, nobody's
on the level right now of the Oklahoma City Thunder,
but the Nuggets were a team that even last year,
you know, pushed him to seven and you know have
been a problem for Okac. So no yokiicch. If that's
the case, yeah, then it's obviously a major storyline.

Speaker 6 (14:49):
Do you think it would if knock Wood, if it
is at ACL. I'm just thinking, because you know, he's
not liking the best of shape. I wonder if it
takes them all a little bit longer, or if it
had any hindering effects on his rehabilitation from something like that.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
You know, well, I mean he's a beast. He's not
the most spelt guy on No, he's not.

Speaker 5 (15:10):
Anyway, We'll keep an eye on a major story developing
tonight with Nicola Jokis's injury.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Steve de Seger, We'll keep eyes on it all night long.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Hey, when we come back, let's revisit Roman Numeral Run
one tonight on the Roman Numeral Rundown, which is the
college football playoffs. Ryan Faller from the game tied one
point nine, our great affiliate and Tuscaloosa will join us
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Speaker 5 (16:38):
Alabama, Indiana. We're talking Rose Bowl here in seconds with
Ryan Fowler. But real quick, what a swing a momentum
in the Rams Falcons game. Atlanta was looking to kick
a field goal to go back up three scores right,
and Jared Vers blocked it. Took it seventy six yards

(16:58):
for a touchdown. Now start the fourth quarter, Arnie, it's
a whole new game. Atlanta leeds at twenty four to seventeen.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
Howbout year.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
It's so funny is I stopped paying attention to it
and said, Okay, I'm gonna pay attention to the Knicks game,
and of course let's go to my Arizona Wildcats er.
I'm paying attention into that. I'm like, the football game's over.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I don't need to pay attention to that one.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Well, go back to not paying attention to it, because
things seemed to happen when you don't. All right, let's
talk college football. Arnie had at number one on the
Roman numeral rundown. We're pumped to be joined by our
good friend Ryan Faller, host of the game with Ryan
Fowler on tied one hundred point nine in Tusco. Loose
a great follow on Twitter to at Ryan see fallor.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Ryan.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
First of all, thanks for taking time. Hope you're having
a great holiday. What's the excitement level been like after
the comeback win over Oklahoma.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Now leading up to the Rose Bowl this week.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
You know, it's been pretty off the charts when you
look at it. I mean, think about the first quarter,
and I know you were there. First what half of
the second quarter, Alabama looked dead in the water. I mean,
there was no way this team was going to be
able to come from behind. And then all of a sudden,
out of the grave, here comes Alabama. So it's kind
of a it's really breathed a new life in this

(18:09):
Alabama football team from a fan base. You got to remember,
the Michigan rumors were there, even though I never thought
anything that it was going to materialize, but it was
still some anks in this Alabama fan base that there
was still a possibility that had heard so much on
the social networks, you know, that Michigan was going to
try to slip in and make an offer that the

(18:31):
Boer couldn't refuse. And Alabama was able to come from
behind and beat Oklahoma, and now there as healthy as
they have been. We just got an entry report probably
about what fifteen minutes ago now maybe an hour to
fifteen minutes ago, and it's the best report that I
have seen this year from an Alabama health standpoint, even

(18:54):
prior to Florida State. Because people say, well, how about
the first game. You have to remember they were with
out there starting running back and their leader on defense,
Tim Keenan, the anchor at that defensive front. So they
had not been healthy, this healthy in a long time.
So there is a re energized fan base and an
Alabama football team in Tuscabloos ahead of the rose Ball

(19:14):
they actually just landed about three minutes ago.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
You know that re energized fan base. Was that the
same fan base that if you opened up your phone
lines at the end of the first quarter, they would
have been cursing the hell out of the team.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
Is that the same? What? Or what? Yes?

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, And there's many games like that
throughout the season that I would have hated to be
able to do a radio show. I mean, but I
think this Alabama fan base can understand. I mean, you
go back to the Georgia game, and I think the
national audience looks at that game and says, man, that
was an absolute beat down, and it was.

Speaker 7 (19:50):
But I think you also have to understand.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
There were thirteen players that were not able to go
or practice that entire leading in multiple like Parker Brells
for your great center. I mean, you're running backs, your
wide receivers, your tight ends. So everybody has that image
of Alabama in their head. And remember this is a team,
if healthy, can go out and win a national title.

(20:17):
I mean, and that sounds crazy for the average college
football fans, but you have to remember where this team
was that you know, going on the road beating Georgia
in actons probably one of the best wins of the
college football season.

Speaker 7 (20:29):
To be able to do what they were able to do.

Speaker 9 (20:32):
Against Oklahoma, you start looking back battle tested football.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Team, and like I said, there's a new energy.

Speaker 9 (20:38):
In Tuscaloosa that believes, hey, this team can do some
damage out of the Rose Bowl.

Speaker 3 (20:43):
Why shouldn't there be, right?

Speaker 5 (20:45):
I mean, first of all, Arnie, you obviously have never
worked in a true diehard college town if you think
that people would act be acting normal after trailing at
the end of the first quarter or second quarter. But secondly,
this was one of the if not the best team
in college football heading into the Oklahoma game, and Tuscaloosa
ryan that stretch they were on, had Ty Simpson at

(21:05):
the top of everyone's Heisman conversation, the top five quarterback
in the draft, Heil still might be and a defense
that everyone was sleeping on. I mean, you know, I
said it about of the twelve teams in the playoffs,
you know, ten of the twelve teams in the playoffs,
there was a stretch where you looked at him and thought, damn,
this team could win at all. And Alabama was near

(21:26):
the top of that.

Speaker 9 (21:28):
Yes, oh absolutely. I mean when you look at you know,
the way TODs Simpson was playing, the way that this
offense was clicking. Now, they've never been able to run
the football. But here's something that they've had to go
through with all those injuries is we have watched them
build a lot of depth that may pay dividends as
they get in this playoff run, you know. And a

(21:49):
great example is that Elti Overton. You get Elgi Overton back,
which was just an absolute you know, Havo creator all
that defensive front. Well, now you've also Kean Keeley, who
has come into his own at a big game against
Oklahoma right there when look at the pressure. Kelby Collins
another guy that's had to jump in and play a

(22:09):
significant role. But now you get Lt Overton back for
this game, and there was a major illness around with him,
and really it's not been this flows exactly what that was,
but it was a medical situation. Well now he's been clear,
so he's good to go. You get Josh s Fagas back,
which was limited in that Oklahoma game. You're you're tied end.

(22:31):
That's just gonna safe the albums. But now you've built
a defense that is championship caliber defense. I've always thought
that Alabama's defense was played into a level that could
go out and compete for a championship. But now you
hopefully get some of those offensive pieces back and we'll see.
You know, the pressure now is on Indiana and Chris.

(22:52):
You were the Oklahoma game. Something jumped out to me
about that game. Oklahoma had been set out and in
that second half, it to me it played a factor
because I kept watching the Oklahoma guys look fatigue because
it had been a little bit since they had been
on the football field. I almost wonder, in some ways

(23:14):
will that impact Indiana because it's been a long time
since they beat Ohio State, you know, in the college
football playoffs.

Speaker 7 (23:21):
Excuse me, in the Big Ten championship, and so.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Now you've got it with thirty days and you can
simulate a lot of stuff. I just don't know if
you can simulate three and a half hours of a
game rep in a two hour practice that you're limited.
I wonder if that could be a factor in this game.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
You know, right, I could go for another round of
home games. I don't like the neutral sites. I would
love for this round to be in a home site.
With that being said, you think Alabama's going to be
well represented at the Rose Buwler.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
One, No, I think Indiana is going to have the
big number.

Speaker 9 (23:54):
I think Indiana is going to have the number. I
think there's going to be a lot of Alabama fans there.
But you also have to keep in mind they did
you know, they had the week that they could go
out and buy tickets, or even two weeks prior from
them knowing that they were going, So they probably soaked
up a lot of the market. But I, Arnie, you
make a great point, Okay, And I don't mind telling

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you this. I'm not in Pasadena because of the cost,
and this is the first playoff game that I've thought
been to since Alabama started. But I've got to like
calculate Okay, if I do this more, then I know
that there's another game, and there's a you know, a
national title game. So you know, as a small business owner,
you've got to kind of calculate that. And I bet

(24:38):
I'm having the same faults that a lot of fans
go to go to the ticket prices of each four
of these games. Guys, there's the Miami Ohio State game.
I think I saw it forty dollars. Georgia to Old
miss is expensive because it's geographically it's close to the
Sugar Bowl. But even the Alabama Indiana game, I want

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to say it was one hundred and fifty.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
Guys.

Speaker 9 (25:02):
We need to do this and quit covering for our
bowl friends and our executives. The bowl system is dead,
and unfortunately it is. I mean, it's just let's have
a couple, you know, the semi final rounds. But the
Bowl system as we knew it growing up, it's just
it's no longer exists for the average fan because you've

(25:24):
got to book these flights so quickly, and now we're
going to be increasing they become irrelevant even more than
what they are currently. Let's do away with it. Get
another look at that Oklahoma crowd on a Friday evening.
Look at the ratings when you're showing it for TV.
You want that environment because it creates something.

Speaker 7 (25:44):
That you know, it fulls people in.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
That was an.

Speaker 9 (25:47):
Epic of just atmosphere. Even coach Saban was talking about.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
It prior to the game.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
I'd hate to know I had to play in this crowd. Well,
that's what we want, and that's where the NFL has
the advantage. You know for the NFC and AFC championships
that they're in the home venues that they have that
atmosphere that we're all craving, but we goes to go
away from it and put it in mutual sites.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Hey, real quick, before I let you go.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
I always like to ask you this, because no one's
as in betted or in tune with Alabama football than
Ryan Fowler. Give me an X factor, a player to
keep an eye on that could end up being a
major difference maker for the squad.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
On I think you've got Thursday.

Speaker 9 (26:26):
I think you've got to go back to Josh Quavis
because when I look at Indiana, I think there's some
money to be made because I don't think they're going
to be able to play man against Alabama, and I
think that zone of those checkdowns are going to be
so important. I think that's the key when you look
at it. But I also looked at that Alabama has

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got a lot of things that they have been preparing for.
I think up Tempo's another one. But I think you've
got to go back to Todd Simpson. If he's patient
in this zone defense and takes what the defense is
willing to give you, I think Tod Senmpson could be
that guy that can make some money, not just for
the rolls bawls, but also for his future in the
National Football League.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
All right, Hey, Ryan, thanks for joining us tonight. Have
a great countdown to the game. It's going to be
a fun one. I can't wait till Thursday.

Speaker 9 (27:15):
Hey, you guys, have a great rest of your day.
Thank you for the invitation.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
Good luck Ryan Fout Andiana fans are going to get
mad with you wishing him all this.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
Lucky you anti indim.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
Here we go Monday Night football has been a thriller
in the second half at.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Least they'll miss the field goal.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
Twenty five seconds left in the game. Zane Gonzalez, who
is nine or fourteen in his career on game changing
field goals, will have a fifty one yard attempt to
give a Lanta a twenty seven to twenty four lead.

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He had a field goal blocked and he missed, and
he made a fifty six yard earlier. This is the
magnification of the Arnie Spaniard curse d FC dead freaking
cinner twenty seven twenty four. Atlanta has the lead with

(28:25):
just seconds left. Why did you trust the same Gonzalez, Arnie,
I don't.

Speaker 6 (28:29):
I figured they were gonna screw this up and it
was gonna hit like the post and do the doinker
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Twenty one seconds left.

Speaker 6 (28:37):
You have to call for a fair catch, get the
ball at the twenty five yard line, Uh, try to
get it to the fifty and then try to get
it to the forty and kick a long field goal
or something to that effect.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
You got time, but you don't have any timeouts left.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
That's a problem.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (28:53):
And I mean again, you don't need a touchdown, so
you don't need to hail Mary here just put yourself
in field goal right, And if there's one thing we've
seen this season with the kickers in this league, get around.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
That midfield range. You're like, okay, maybe we got a
shot here.

Speaker 5 (29:09):
They just flashed the stat that Matthew Stafford has fifty
game winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime, which
is the most by any active quarterback. Now you're saying
you'd fair catch here. You don't want to try to
bust something in the kick return.

Speaker 6 (29:24):
I don't think I can because that's going to chew
up clock. I'd rather get the ball. Where is it
the thirty five yard lines that we're gonna go ahead
and get the ball without any time right being wasted.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I'd rather go ahead and do something like that.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
Well, if you fair catch it, you get it. Yeah,
here you go, fair catch it. He downed it in
the end zone. So yeah, thirty five yard line. So
here we go.

Speaker 6 (29:46):
One range, field goal range. You know what's that thirty
yards to get you in the field goal range, right.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
But you don't have any timeouts left.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
I mean, if you're the Falcons, you're not letting any
get near the sidelines.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
But you could complete it down the middle. And spike
it and get up there and still spike it up.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
Plenty of time to do that, I think.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I don't. I mean, who do you have Carl Lewis
running this show?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
I mean, I'm sorry, I said thirty five thirty Yeah,
thirty five yard line is.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Where he is. I don't.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I don't know if you have enough time to get
a second playoff to get in field goal range. You're
gonna need three plays to get in field goal range.
But let's see stat Oh, they're going deep and they've
got a man wide open and he missed him.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Somehow Smith broke wide open, would have been able to
make the catch and probably what get out of bounds
and he missed him. Oh my goodness. And I don't know.
This was obviously a coverage bust on the Falcons. Holy smokes, Arnie.
He was wide open at the thirty yard line, right.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yet I was gonna say they didn't even need that
many yards, but you're right. He was right open and
Stafford just holding onto his helble like, oh, I wish
I had that one back.

Speaker 5 (31:00):
I mean, if you're the Falcons, now you gotta be
And in fact, Atlanta calls a time out before the snap.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Yeah, they're screw that up.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Man, we got a Atlanta calls her time out.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
It's like, listen, let's regroup on this one.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
He was wide open.

Speaker 5 (31:16):
Oh my goodness, that's and I don't know if Stafford
expected him to flatten out throughout.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah he was to get towards the out of bounds.

Speaker 5 (31:25):
Or if it was just a bad throw. I think
Safford's kind of putting that on himself. He didn't like
point at him or anything, but oh my gosh, what
a break. Well, there's a reason why the Falcons are
sitting here at six and nine heading into this game.
There's a reason why they're up twenty one to zip
and find themselves in a dog fight. They're not necessarily

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a good football team, but in fairness, they've had some
good moments this year to.

Speaker 4 (31:51):
Win the division. This year, I thought this was gonna
be their year.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
I I was hopping aboard saying, Okay, they got their quarterback,
this is all going to happen for them, and it
never materialized.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
From the get go.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
Stafford just had another pass now there's nine seconds left
in the game, that looked like it hit his receiver
right in the hands. Now, that probably would have ended
the game. I'm watching the replay now at well, oh
my gosh, it did he should have caught that. He
was hand fighting with the dB it hit off his

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right hand.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Jeez.

Speaker 4 (32:23):
Yeah, that would have ended the game though.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
But you're right that he would have caught it, and
they wouldn't have had any time to get down there
and spike the football.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
So what are you hail marrying it here?

Speaker 6 (32:34):
Troy? They played this whole thing wrong. Like I said,
you could have gotten ten to fifteen yards, got yourself
in midfield, gotten another ten to fifteen yards down to
the thirty five to forty, and then kicked the long field.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
How are you talking about? They played it wrong.

Speaker 5 (32:48):
They had a wide receiver running wide open at the
thirty yard line and they missed him.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, they missed him. It didn't do him any good.
Now they got to throw up to hell, Mary and
see if.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
They they should have thrown a shorter pass so you
can get up there and spike it.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
They have the dude running wide open. What do you mean?
They played it all wrong?

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Played it wrong, Chris played it all wrong.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I mean that's easy to say.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
But they had a dude running wide ass open and
completely missed him. Well, let's stay with this for at
least the final ten seconds and what is the Monday
Night Football finale? No Monday Night Football game next week,
but ESPN does have one of the wild card games. Uh, this,
I guess technically doesn't have to be the last play
of the game. There's still ten seconds left, but you

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would imagine that you're gonna throw a hail Mary here
that's gonna eat up a majority.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Of the clock, right penalty of course, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
It looks like they're throwing the same exact play and
Nikua caught it with five seconds left.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Are you kidding me? They're in field goal range.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Oh my goodness, what a catch by Pooka Nakua along
the sidelines and the Rams were watching the replay. Now
Nikua goes up, has it with both hands. Oh my gosh,
he one handed it and got both feet in.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
You gotta be.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
Slow moving clock. Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
He caught it with one hand down the sideline toe
drag swag and they're in field goal range at the
thirty yard line and it was contested, Arnie. That's one
of the best catches I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
I'm looking at it now, that's incredible.

Speaker 6 (34:30):
How does he have possession of that with one It
was just his hand with one hand like that, and
that's incredible.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
Now the sagar's got an angle on this burst. You've
got eyes, you got tie eyes on this too. Did
that ball? Did you guys see the ball moving his
hand at all?

Speaker 10 (34:48):
There may be slight movement at the end and going
to the ground, but I agree that's one of the
greatest catches I've seen. And consider the moment the context
of this. Yes, his arm was being pulled by the defender,
so the ball momentarily came loose in the air.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I don't think that's gonna be a catch.

Speaker 5 (35:06):
Goodness, the ball, that's a complete yeah. Yeah, And Nakua
just saw it. The ball just got stripped as he
was going. He still pawt it, he still secured it,
but it just came out of his hand as he
was coming down, because oh my goodness, that's a Both

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feet are in, he's got the ball, and then as
he's going to the ground, it just pops out and
he resecures it against his body.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
Oh, they're gonna say it stands as called it was
called incomplete. Oh, it was called okay, bad, my bad,
my bad. They called it incomplete. Okay. I was like,
whoa they called it complete pass?

Speaker 10 (35:44):
So five seconds left, one play left, rams down by three.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
Well, that last play took like four seconds, right or
five seconds.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
They could try to do it one more time.

Speaker 10 (35:53):
If they have, they're gonna have to throw it sixty
five yards for a winning touchdown on the final play,
because no more time for a field goal and it's
a fourth down pass coming up.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
I didn't realize they called that incomplete. On the field.

Speaker 5 (36:06):
They're trying to get a reset of the play clock.
Looks like they're gonna get it.

Speaker 10 (36:10):
That is He's there was an obvious mispass interference before
on the long pass to at Will. His arm was
being pulled quite clearly by the defender.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
Lanta's gonna the third time hooked ladder.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
Watch up for the hooked ladder.

Speaker 10 (36:26):
Baby, it's a later when you throw it sideways.

Speaker 4 (36:29):
I'll teacher the language later on.

Speaker 5 (36:31):
Thanks, Thanks Arnie. We need to get learned up on
this from I'm sorry man. The fact that Nikupa still
came down with that ball, yeah, we feed in unbelievable.
And the slightest bobble was the difference in this football game.
And by the way, kudos to the officials that that
called it an incomplete pass in the field, because I

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thought they called it a catch.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
That was unfreaking believable.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
This game has had more twists turns in the final
three and a half minutes and I've ever seen what's
Raheem Morris losing his mind about. Right now, they're backing
every one up, all right, so the Rams will have
it on their own thirty five yard line. Now, I
would assume this will be the last play of the game.
Is fourth down and ten twenty seven to twenty four Falcons.

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They're gonna try the old hook and ladder work incomplete ball.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Told you that's what they were gonna do.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
No, that was just a sideline pattern. If that's what
they were doing, throw it shorter.

Speaker 5 (37:31):
Yeah, yeah, Raheem Morris will go over and shake hands
and the Rams in the playoffs clinched.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
But a tough one tonight.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
Wow, the Rams could be as low as a six seed,
a team that was nearly the one seed. About a
week ago, Arnie.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Sent me a tweet from Joe Buck. Joe Buck had
a note a sheet.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Of I thought of you when I saw that today.

Speaker 5 (37:57):
I don't think I've The only thing that confused me
more than that was your Roman numeral rundown.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
Did you actually look at that thing?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Like?

Speaker 3 (38:05):
What? What is he trying to figure out with that?

Speaker 4 (38:08):
That was the playoff format or something.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
It shouldn't make sense to me. Okay, hey, it doesn't
need to make sense to me. It needs to make
sense to him.

Speaker 6 (38:15):
Is that the way you have your play by play
when you're doing it with all the writing.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
I am very much a handwritten guy, So there is that.
But as it stands right now, according to the most
recent playoff update, if the season were in to day,
which it doesn't, one seeds are both up for grabs
and either the Panthers or the Bucks are going to
be and it's the four seed in the NFC, and
there's all kinds of seeding to debate. As it stands

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right now, you would have a Rams Eagles game in
the first round.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
How about that?

Speaker 4 (38:45):
Oh, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Rams in Philadelphia. They were leading in.

Speaker 10 (38:49):
The fourth quarter with two blocked kicks by the Eagles
on special teams in the.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Ft the Jalen Carter took to the House, and.

Speaker 10 (38:56):
The Rams have changed kickers and change special teams coordinating
since then.

Speaker 6 (39:02):
I love that the San Francisco could possibly go twelve
and five and have to go on the road to Carolina,
who could be eight and nine.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
I mean it's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Absolutely, It makes zerious.

Speaker 10 (39:13):
In it the day one when I become commissioner of
the NFL. If you don't have a winning record, you're
not hosting a playoff game.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
That's I'm okay with it.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
I'm doin.

Speaker 6 (39:23):
Yeah, I'm okay because I keep want to say it
doesn't happen all that often except for every year in
the last like five years or something.

Speaker 10 (39:31):
I don't mean that's not bad. I mean a losing record,
you have not earned a home.

Speaker 3 (39:36):
Game either the the Panthers. Well, I guess the Panthers
would be the only team that could finish eight nine nine.

Speaker 10 (39:45):
Yeah, three teams could finish eight and nine in that division.
So whoever represents the NFC South, it's possible.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
It's's going to be eight and nine. That's terrible, all right.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Here's what it would look like as it stands right now.
Either the Seahawks or the nine would be one or five.
The Bears would host the Packers and the Eagles would
host the Rams. Well, let's just say the Seahawks went
on Sunday night. It would be the forty nine Ers
at the Panthers, as Steve just talked about.

Speaker 6 (40:14):
And there used to be a rule that you couldn't
host the team in the first round if they were
in your division or no.

Speaker 10 (40:20):
Yeah, it's long ago. And then they expanded the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Yes, it's gonna be pull that out.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Wow, AFC.

Speaker 5 (40:27):
The Broncos right now hold the one, but the Patriots
are still very much alive, as are the Jaguars slightly.
The Patriots host the Bills, the Jaguars would host the Chargers,
and the Steelers would host the Texans. The one team
that I could find, and so you guys can help
me fill in the blanks throughout the night. But the
one team that I feel really secure about their playoff
path that having it all figured out, is the Bills.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
So are you ready?

Speaker 5 (40:51):
The Bills could be the five to six or the
seventh seed. They're the five seed with a win, and
they wrap up their season against two the Jets, So
with a win, then they need a Houston and a
Chargers loss. If the Bills win and Houston and the

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Chargers lose. The Bills are the five seed. They're the
sixth seed with the win and a Texans or Chargers loss,
but they can also be the sixth seed with a
Texans and Chargers win and a Jaguars loss.

Speaker 10 (41:27):
And if none of the things on the long list happens,
they stay at the seventh seeds.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
They don't want to be a seventh seed. They want
anyone other than the seventh seeders. They don't want to
play the Patriots in the first round.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
Well, the Patriots have played only one team above five hundred.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
They got a win.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
That's crazy.

Speaker 10 (41:41):
But as we said on the last night's show, the
Patriots lost the opener against the Raiders, and that's what's
going to cost them the one seed. Because the percentage
in common games on your schedule, that tiebreaker goes to Denver.
They beat the Raiders twice. New England lost to Las Vegas,
and the Buffalo Bills currently the seventh seed, the last
team in in the AFC playoffs. They would lose a

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tiebreaker to Houston above them, and lose a tiebreaker to
the Chargers above them, so that lost by one point,
missing the two point pass at the end at Buffalo.
That is a killer for where the Bills are in
the standings.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
By the way, the Patriots played such an easy schedule,
it's not even funny. They should be embarrassed with their schedule.

Speaker 5 (42:20):
I don't think anyone is embarrassed to sit two and
three with a chance to go to the playoffs. But
there is a four way tie twelve and five scenario
where Jacksonville, Houston, the Chargers, and the Bills would all
finish twelve and five. If that happens, Houston wins the

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AFC South, the Chargers would be the five seed, the
Bills would be the six, and the Jaguars would be
the seven.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
So they go from three to seven to the Jaguars.

Speaker 10 (42:53):
But I would add to the scenario. You're right mathematically,
but the Chargers are resting quarterback Justin Herbert and the
starter's plural apparently in the Sunday game at Denver, which
the Broncos know they need to clinch the one seed
with a victim.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Why why why are they doing that?

Speaker 10 (43:09):
Because because they really need to buy Honestly, Okay, all right.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Just because Burrow's hand looks like it's gonna fall off for.

Speaker 10 (43:17):
Crying out her I'm sorry, Barrow is gonna play this weekend.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Yeah, he's playing too.

Speaker 5 (43:24):
Why Why what you're saying rest is more important? They're
just gonna go ahead and give the Broncos the one.

Speaker 10 (43:29):
Yeah, as Harbaugh said, We're gonna leave it up to
the football gods. It's like actually being healthy going into
a potential postseason run was more important to them. And
you know, we've talked about offensive line problems with the
Chargers for example, but this is this game tonight that
we saw is a great example of what an offensive

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line switch can mean for an offense. Because the tackle
that subbed for Alaric Jackson the Rams tonight out with
a knee injury was horrendous, consistently horrendous. And the guy
the Chargers had subbing at left tackle on Saturday was
even worse. A guy who hadn't played that position in
three years had to start for them on Saturday. By

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the time Justin Herbert had been hit five times, he
was pulled from the game. A guy starting at tackle
in an NFL game was benched during the game.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
It got that bet, can't.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
They get like a forty five year old guy like
Philip rivers like they got them.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Just hey, you big old fat guy, get out.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Of that on somebody all right, we got to get
a break.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
Do you you want to play a game here? You
want to? Okay?

Speaker 5 (44:49):
Arnie every single show puts together his notes for the program.
It's old school. He does it on a yellow notepad.
Did he include you in the tweet with the notes?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Bursch? Or was just me? I think it was just
you today? Just me?

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Oh? Who's Bursch?

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Ryan Berschinger? Our producer? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (45:06):
Know who that is.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
Whom you had been communicating with quite regularly. Do I
know him who you're trying to sound cool for?

Speaker 3 (45:11):
But I know him? No, Burschinger?

Speaker 4 (45:12):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
The question is staying are gone? Arnie has laid out
ten different either scenarios or players, and the question is
are they staying where they are or are they gone?

Speaker 6 (45:26):
At gen didn't write that out very well. There's there's
actually four answers for each player.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
Ok Okay, yeah, one one?

Speaker 6 (45:34):
Did you be does the player want to go, does
the team want him back, do the fans want him back?

Speaker 4 (45:40):
And what's really going to happen? So those are like
the four answers.

Speaker 5 (45:44):
I mean, there'd be forty A, B and c's on
this if that were the kise on me. It's only
and seeing that this was a four hour show, that
would have been nice an hour one, so we wouldn't
have to be sitting here sweating to get four hours
of content here, I'm kidding, all right, well, go with
it what you want. I'm gonna tell you right now,
I'm one eightying on you here. I'm thinking Lamar Jackson's
back with Baltimore. Don't think he's going anywhere. And I

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think if he does go anywhere, minding up with your
Miami Dolphins, which will be a wild one eighty to
see you turn. But number one on your list in
staying or gone Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
Right, Lamar, Well, first of all, if I'm Lamar, okay,
if I'm trying to get into the head of Lamar
Jackson one, He's from the Miami area, right, He's from
down there, So I think I want to go. If
I'm him one, I want to go from him because
maybe I can go home there's no Garrett, you know,
go to the Florida area, to Miami or something. Two,

(46:41):
I don't feel like I'm getting appreciated by the fans,
and I kind of don't feel like I'm getting This is.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
What I'm thinking is going through his mind.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
I don't feel like I got treated completely the best
way with the organization, which I completely disagree with because
they gave him a great contract. But he was complaining
about one one part of it. Chris, you mentioned that
the the other day. I think it was on Sunday
that it wasn't fully guaranteed or one part wasn't guaranteed.
So I think Lamar feels like he wants to go

(47:12):
because he's been wrong. I think the fans actually want
him to go. To be honest with you, I think
they're done with him. I think that record in the
playoffs really really stands over him, and the fans have
had enough of it. I believe they want him to go.
I believe the team wants him to stay. There's no

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doubt the front office and all that they have a
two time MVP, four time pro bowler. They know they can,
you know, get over the hump and win in the playoffs.
So I believe the team wants him to stay. What's
going to happen. I really think he's going to be gone.
I believe he wants to go to the Miami Dolphins
because of that area. But even if he doesn't go

(47:54):
to the Dolphins, I believe he feels that the grass
is greener on the other side and he'll find another team,
whether it's it's your Raiders or the Cardinals or whoever.
To be honest with you, I think he wants to
take the next step and and and leave Baltimore.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
Now, just can I raise my hand? Are you hearing
from a lot of Raven fans that say they want
them gone? I feel that you know when you use
it's it's also on Twitter too well, but you know
what they get.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
But it's only a lot of it's recently because he
wasn't playing through the injuries, you know, And a lot
of the talk shows are like, man, I get in
him and say you're gonna play with a bruise or not?

Speaker 4 (48:40):
How could you sit it out?

Speaker 6 (48:41):
And and the fans are like, yeah, you tell him,
how can you be sitting it out? And I understand
the frustration with the fans, but I.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Believe the fans are ready to go ahead and make
the next step.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
Member.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
It wasn't like he was crushing it in the playoffs,
to be honest, all right, And by the way, I
think it will happen. I I do now. I had
Jason when I was feeling We had Jason Cole on Friday,
and he kind of took me to taskit. I ain't
not going anywhere and this is this is not going
to happen.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
I think he is going to be gone.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
I think some other team will or he'll find the
way to get out of Baltimore and.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
Go somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (49:14):
Now, you know, I love you, and you know I
love doing a show with you. Jason Cole is an
NFL reporter who talks to teams front off. Is that
what he doess people, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Know that I had.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
You're just going off your gut right now.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
So it's just I mean, you can argue with him
all you want, but so far you've cited a few people.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
You He speaks to what's his name, the the GM
of Baltimore, Piscott, Piscotti or something.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
What's his name? Again?

Speaker 4 (49:45):
I forget off the top of my head.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Or is that the cookie Eric DaCosta is the general manager,
the owner.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Not him.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
Yeah, the owner enough, so he says he speaks to
the owner. Yeah, so that probably carries a lot.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Wait, but you still don't argue with him, right, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:03):
Of course, absolutely absolutely, I'm gonna I'm gonna still I'm
not gonna back that with that.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
I don't care about your team sourced notes or your
conversation with the owners. I saw a guy on Twitter
that's a Ravens fan that's mad about it. I think
they're moving on from Rob.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
The raven fan said something different. So how dare you.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
Again, I'm not saying I'm not knocking, I'm not knocking
Onny or I'm not saying Jason's always right Jason cole
it is.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
I'm just saying I think it's kind of interesting.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
You know, there was a lot of people, maybe as
early as last year, that we're saying, oh, the Ravens
can't wait to move on from Mark Andrews, and they're
shopping Mark Andrews and YadA, YadA, YadA. Right, Well, they
just signed him to a three year contract extension, you know,
and early.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I don't think the team wants to get rid of him.
I really do believe it is Lamar.

Speaker 6 (50:51):
I think it's Lamar, And for some reason, I just
feel it's just the body language here. I don't know,
just the lack of him not playing with the bruise,
and I just feel like he wants out of Baltimore
and he's ready to start a new chapter somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Okay, maybe I'm misreading the those situation.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Maybe you are. I.

Speaker 6 (51:09):
By the way, what about all those leak stories that
got out there that the they have to change, you know, uh,
practices and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
What about all those leak stories? Where did they come from?

Speaker 5 (51:20):
I don't know what what. I'm not familiar with the game.
You're spitting right now. I wasn't aware that they were
having to change practices around in Baltimore because of Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 6 (51:29):
Yeah, I mean that was one of the rumors out there.
And you know, these stories come from somewhere. Somebody leaks
them on purpose from the team. I I don't know.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Something's not right there, Chris.

Speaker 6 (51:40):
You could tell something's not right there with him not playing, losing,
it just doesn't didn't feel right.

Speaker 5 (51:48):
I just don't think he's gonna be You can fight
with VJ about Lamar.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
I know that's one of your guy's favorite fots.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Okay, let's skip the play, slip this, skip the coaches
till next second. Okay, Okay, okay, staying or go on Tua.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
I believe Tua, in his mind now wants to leave.

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Also, I think he's talked himself into that.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
I feel he talked himself into like, Hey, they don't
respect me, they don't believe.

Speaker 5 (52:16):
In me, and I think they bit him. They blamed
him for everything. You're right on this one.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Well, and look what they've done to him at the
end of the season now. And I understand why they
want to try out Quinn yours because the season, like
you said, is over.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
But still that's still kind of upsetting just to go
ahead and beat bench to that.

Speaker 6 (52:35):
I believe he's ready to go ahead and try another
chapter in his life. I believe the fans are ready.
The Dolphin fans are ready to say enough is enough.
We do like Tua, but we think that you should
go somewhere else and try dating somebody else.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
I believe the.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
Team wants to move on from Dua. The coach wants
to move on from DUA and what's going to happen
is the Dolphins will move on from to I don't
know how it's going to work out and how they'll
do it with a trade or you know, how to
save money from the cap and how all that's going
to work. But I do think he's gonna end up

(53:12):
on another team, and very well could be your Raiders
when it's all said, I.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Think it could be.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
I think the Raiders would be an interesting fit for him.
But you know you saw the report from and listen.
I know that you followed it Dolphins Wire, but this
was also Ian Rappaport that basically said they could simply
cut him. They could eat ninety nine million dollars worth

(53:39):
of dead cap money over the next two years, which
keep in mind that's what the Broncos did with Russell Wilson.
Or they could try to trade him, eat some of
the money and then maybe have to give up an
asset as well.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I didn't know it was ninety nine million.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
I thought if there was a certain date they could
save and it'd only be like sixty. I don't know it.
It's so much money, though, Chris. It's so much money
to eat. But you gotta move on sooner.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
That's ninety nine million dollars in debt cap that they
would obviously have to eat.

Speaker 4 (54:10):
Sounds like monopoly money. Is when you bring that up
like that, you know it's just not mail. Well nine mail.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
You said you thought you heard that it was like
fifty to sixty mil. Well, it's fifty four mil and
twenty twenty six or fifty five point four million in
twenty twenty six, it's forty three point eight mil.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Okay, So that's what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
In twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 6 (54:29):
So you don't get to just save yourself on the
back ear if you get rid of it this year.
Is that what you're telling me? No, No, okay, because
I thought it was like fifty four mail. Okay, I
can deal with that. Now you told me it's nine
to nine mail. But it's not coming out of my pocket,
So what do I care?

Speaker 5 (54:43):
He had sixty seven million dollars. Here was a report
from earlier this week. Off the field, Tua has remained
a fixture in the building and his work ethic doesn't
appear to be a major issue. But no, yeah, he
ranked thirtieth in Q and in the previous two years
he ranked tenth and fifteenth, So that's problematic. So you

(55:08):
say twenty twenty six to not in your dolphin.

Speaker 3 (55:14):
Oh no, the.

Speaker 6 (55:15):
Zero chance of that's happening. That's not going to happen
at all.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
You're catching a theme here, a lot of quarterbacks on
this list. So let's continue here with staying or gone
Kyler Murray. Now I do want to pause here for
a moment. Basically, you have all these guys gone. So
I don't know who's gonna play quarterback for Baltimore or
for Miami next year, but their starning quarterbacks are not
going to be there. So is Kyler Murray the starting

(55:38):
quarterback at Arizona? I say no next year?

Speaker 3 (55:40):
What's say you?

Speaker 6 (55:41):
No?

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Matter of fact? One, if I'm Kyler Murray.

Speaker 6 (55:44):
I think it's in his head also that he's no
longer wanted by the organization, the fans. He feels like
he's getting a bad knock. He also has undergone some injuries,
and of course, sure the rumors came out about him
in the you know, playing games, gaming and Madden Games
or whatever it was, and you know how they had

(56:05):
to deal with that.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
It wasn't mad and it was a good old fashioned
shoot him up games.

Speaker 6 (56:09):
Oh my bad. I'm sorry, but I do appreciate that.
So I believe he feels he's not being appreciated. I
think the fans say goodbye, it's time for you to
move We're ready to move on and start with a
fresh chapter. The team is ready to move on, I believe,
and they're ready to start a fresh chapter.

Speaker 4 (56:30):
And when it's all said and done, Chris.

Speaker 6 (56:32):
I believe he'll be moved out, shipped out, free agent,
whatever you want to call it, and find some other team.
Where can that team be once again? The Dolphins? Maybe
maybe your Raiders. Again, your Raiders don't have the number
one pick, but can you start a rookie quarterback asap?
You know that's a possibility. But I think Murray has

(56:54):
gone goodbye. His days are over with the Arizona Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (56:58):
So there's an internet rumor the Pittsburgh.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Could sign one of these guys if they don't want
to bring back I'll just say Roethlisberger, if they didn't
want to bring back Rogers.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
You you think that maybe Pittsburgh could be in play
a guy.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Like Kyler Murray.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
Possibility.

Speaker 5 (57:20):
Our buddy Benjamin Albright, whom a big fan of and
Denver haven't had a chance to talk to him in
a while, but he had floated, I think at the
very least. And again, it's something that I think every
single time that you dive into it, that you think
you can throw stuff off the wall and see if
it sticks.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Whenever the Raiders sent out the.

Speaker 5 (57:43):
Tweet about Max Crosby and hey, he's going to go
on injured reserve, he theorized and maybe Max Crosby goes
to Arizona this offseason for Kyler Murray and some draft picks.

Speaker 4 (57:56):
It doesn't seem like a fair trade, does it.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
No, no filstrate at all.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
But I mean, if Max Crosby is going to Arizona
and you're getting Kyler Murray and you're also getting some
draft picks, then maybe I'm hearing that conversation.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
But I don't like.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Max Crosby is not going to get traded.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
I think Max Crosby's gonna be I think he was pissed.
I think, gosh, I'm cussing a lot tonight. This is
I get my mom's house. I'm We're in a safe
harbor though, right? Is that what we learned in all
of our training? Safe harbor area. So I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys.
I'm watching my my potty mouth tonight. But I think
even the reportering that's around it was, Hey, Max was mad.

(58:37):
I'm glad he was mad. I don't want him to
be happy. But he went home and he was back
at the facility today.

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Hopefully they'd be good to go.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
One of the not rumors, I guess one of the
reasons was my little twittersphere of people are saying that
Max Crosby has dealings or business dealings with Tom Brady
and oh yeah, and Jim right, and that that's why
he's gonna they forget about it. I want to be
here with the Raiders with.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Tom and stuff like that. That is that true? I
didn't know that, yes, very much.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
So okay, all right, So Kyler Murray is on this list.

Speaker 5 (59:10):
You don't have a position player, so we don't have
to worry about talking about Max Crosby.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
But how are we on time here?

Speaker 6 (59:17):
I bring up one real quick rumor to today that
somebody was bringing up that they thought that Travis Kelcey
would rob Gronkowski.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
That he thought that.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
He said, Travis Kelcey not only should he come back,
but he should entertain playing for another team, considering, if
Mahomes isn't going to be back till halfway through the
season and you're only gonna have one year left, you
should consider playing for a Super Bowl contender and going
somewhere else.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Send him to Vegas. All right, you have Jackson Dart
on this list. I don't really know if that's a
necessary conversation. Colin would think, So, why why he's not
that dude.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
Colin Coward?

Speaker 3 (59:55):
What he's not?

Speaker 5 (59:55):
What?

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Dude?

Speaker 3 (59:56):
The dude, the guy, the man.

Speaker 4 (59:59):
No, there's talk that you know, I was.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Listening to the column that they could very well if
they don't get the number one pick, if they had
the number one pick, maybe they would trade it and
you know, or trade Jackson Dart and use the number
one pick for themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
And who knows, well.

Speaker 5 (01:00:13):
They're not going to have the number one pick in
the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Right, but they could have the number two pick, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:21):
But I mean, you think that there is a chance
that they could try to go out and trade Jackson
Dart move on from him after half a season where
I think he's kind of inspired a little bit of hope.

Speaker 6 (01:00:33):
I guess it depends on who the Raiders take with
the number one pick, and who they want, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
The Raiders are going to take a quarterback, right, so
you would have second?

Speaker 4 (01:00:40):
Which quarterback?

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Which quarterback? Are the ones?

Speaker 6 (01:00:43):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Which Dante or hasn't even declared for the draft yet.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
But that's the one you want to the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Though I don't care for Mendoza or more. I'm fine
with either one.

Speaker 6 (01:00:50):
I got a feeling if the Raiders could or if
the if they could take the if the Giants can
get Mendoza, they would consider them getting rid of Jackson Dart.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
I think right now as we sit here on what
is the date today, December, Well it's the thirtieth now,
as we sit here on December thirtieth year of our Lord,
twenty twenty five, I think Fernando Mendoz is going to
be the starting quarterback for the Raiders, and I want
him to be the starting quarterback for the Raiders. And
I don't think they're going to be in the game
of making trades for Kyler Murray or anyone like that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
And I don't think that the Giants.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
I think the Giants are going to bring in a
coach to try to get Jackson Dart, right, I think
that they're going to go and get good defensive help.
Maybe if it's Reuben Bain out of Miami or Rvill
Reese out of Ohio State, or even gosh, Caleb Downs
who's just start out of Ohio State.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
I think that's what the Giants are going to do.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
If the Giants do that, that's fine. I like Jackson Dart.
I am worried about the way he runs, though I'm
worried about Summer. I mean, look, I've seen the going
on with Tua, and that's the last thing you need
with somebody like Jacksonville.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
Well, Jackson Dart's a hell of a lot more mobile
than Tua was and is one more to back here?
Do you have Joe Burrow on this list? The Raiders
have the number one pick in the draft. Do you
at the very least call the Bengals and say they
got the numb one pick in the draft. If you
would be willing to give up Joe Burrow?

Speaker 4 (01:02:15):
Who would say, no, the Bengals are the Raiders. The Bengals, No,
they would not. Are you serious?

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Do you think.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
They can get the kid from Indiana and start fresh
and don't have to pay their quarterback at gazillion dollars
along with their wide receivers.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
What are you? What are you kidding me? They're not
gonna They're not gonna say.

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
No, you're telling me right now that the Bengals would
trade Joe Burrow for the number one pick in the draft.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
I would do it. You would be our liars tomorrow,
our listeners would do it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
No, they wouldn't.

Speaker 6 (01:02:53):
Now, you'd have to get a little bit more. I'm
not just saying straight up for the number one pick,
you have to get a little bit more.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
You you fight and scratch and claw to get the
opportunity to draft a guy like Joe Burrow. I think
you continue to do everything you can to make him happy,
healthy and protect him. I don't think you ever think
about trading him ever. I think he's your dude, and
you take care of him. Why are you always trying
to trade him?

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
It's not that I'm always trying to.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Trade always trying to trade.

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Him because I do like him. But I do think
that he's ready.

Speaker 6 (01:03:28):
Uh, he's talked himself into I think I would kind
of like to want to play somewhere else, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:03:32):
You have more conversations with these guys than the people
that cover the team.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
Yeah, Jason Cole talks to a lot of people. What
about the people I have imaginary talks with?

Speaker 5 (01:03:42):
Come on, man, I think if they traded, if Joe Burrow,
you don't get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
That feeling that Joe Burrow.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
I mean if I get if you had a million dollars,
I said, you got a bet. Which way you think
Joe Burrow thinks he wants to stay in Siety or
he'd rather play somewhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:03:59):
What do you bet? You're not gonna tell me, just say.

Speaker 5 (01:04:02):
They're gonna bet a million dollars on the way a
guy is thinking, I'm gonna go bet on a performance.
I mean, you're the one that's trying to get inside
their head right now. I mean you have to.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
I think that everyone's pretty happy there right now. And
we'll see what happens with Zach Tata got hurt this
year and they actually played decent out of the Gates.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
Which is new. So