Bring On Baker!

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a free rate quote. Rob, How you doing today? Man?
Doing great? How are you, mister Chris Brussard Another nighted man.
I'm Joe. Well, yes, so much to talk about the
big Thursday night football game coming up as well with
the Jets and Browns. I'm looking forward to it. Yes,

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i am too, I'm too. And we got some great
guests on today. We got Mark Schlayris our colleague at
FS one, three times Super Bowl champion and Fox NFL analyst.
We got Ian O'Connor, author of Belichick The Makings of
the greatest coach of all time? Can you repeat the

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title of his book, Rob, I can, because I just
threw up in my mouth the makings of the greatest
coach of all time? Like Belichick, hate Belichick. You all
got a bow and admit, yeah, he is the greatest.
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great show today for all the listeners, and I'm just
really ready to get it started, Robbed, that's right. But
first let's introduce our staff. Of course Rob g our producer,
Alex our engineers on the ones and twos, and of
course Deb Carson, our anchor for the evening. So there

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we are in full effect and they are all on
the other side of the glass. So let's kick it off. Well,
let's kick it off with the NFL and you mentioned
it earlier, the New York Jets against the Cleveland Browns,
and the Cleveland Browns last two years one one and
thirty one, one thirty one now one thirty two and one, Right,

(02:38):
that's their record over the last two years, or really
two and a half years or two and a quarter years. However,
you want to include this season, but the bottom line
is they don't win. They don't win if you include
this season. I was gonna say right, because the last
two years they had only won one game. They were
one in thirty one one thirty one? Okay, I got you?
Are you threw me off with your math. I was like, wait,

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wait a minute, how many games are tight? Man? This
type was one of my favorite subjects growing up, so
uh yeah. But anyway, believe it or not, they're actually
favorite rob the Browns. Favorite at home for the first
time since twenty fifteen, not favorite period for the first
time since twenty fifteen. Favorite at home for the first

(03:24):
time since twenty fifteen. And look, I'm just gonna put
it out there. I got no problem with Tyrod Taylor.
He's a good leader. I think he's a winner. I
think he's high character. He's a solid quarterback, doesn't make
a lot of mistakes, although this year he already does

(03:45):
have two interceptions. But it's time to start. Baker Mayfield,
what are you waiting for? Wait, wait a minute, I'm
gonna stop you right in your tracks. That's based on
what if they had it, based on if they had
a decent kicker, Chris Broussard, they would be two and old.
It's not the quarterback play. It's the kicking game that

(04:07):
has cost uh Cleveland and the whole notion. If Baker
Mayfield was that guy like Sam Darnolis for the Jets
who thrown for more yards than anybody else in his
first two games at his age, he would be the quarterback.
If he was that, all that and a bag of chips.
He's not that, and that's why he's watching on the sideline.

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So what are you saying they've already realized they made
a mistake. No, but he's not that guy on that
To me, he's that guy. He's not that guy because
he's not playing he should be. He's not behind Drew Brees,
Aaron Rodgers, Brett Farr who kept Rogers on the bench
for years, four years, hi Rod Taylor, who's completing fifty

(04:52):
three percent of his passes throwing for two hundred and
twenty two yards a game. Maybe if they had more
a offence, they wouldn't be have been in those situations
to put it all away. Stop, stop it right now. Stop. No,
that's not the reason why they've lost the games. Fine,

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but he's pedestrian again, who he's not behind Ben Roethlisberger
at best with Tyrod Taylor? Rob, Where are they going?
Where are they going this year? Where are they going
with Baker Mayfield? Yeah, but Baker Mayfield is your future. Yeah.
But the only problem, Chris, if he was good enough,

(05:33):
he would be in there. You know what football is
good enough? He Jackson hadn't even give any much shot.
He was saying from day one, he's not gonna be
the starting quarter well because they don't believe that he's
ready to be that guy, because it doesn't make sense
to me. Football is about who can help us win today.
If Baker Mayfield was that guy, the same way, the

(05:55):
Jets could have said, no, let's let Sam Dardo come
to take his time. We have Josh McCowan. He's a veteran,
he was pretty good, he had a good year last year.
We have a pretty decent team because because Sam Donald's
the real deal and they know they gotta they got
a gym. I agreed, Sam Donald is the real deal.

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I think he's better than Baker Mayfield. I think the
Browns made a mistake by not taking him. I think
the Giants definitely made a mistake by not taking Now,
you whoever you're doing it right, don't act like he's
throwing the ball like Peyton Manning in his prime. I mean,
Donald has made some mistakes there what what's there? They

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do have a win. Yet they beat the Lions on
a one one and one. Wait a minute, they beat
the Lions in Detroit. That's why I said, is that
considered a way? Look at you now? Wow? No? But seriously,
they blew the Lions out. They scored. I like Darnald,
but don't act like you know he's been throwing for

(06:58):
four hundred yards a game, Chris three, and the Jets
have made the decision that he's our future. He yes,
he's He's played well, don't get me wrong. Fantastic for
a rookie. Hold on, let's bring in Rob g. Can
you look up Sam Donald? Didn't he thrown for three
forty three? I know they couldn't get in the end
zone against moundre yards a game against Miami? He has

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he had almost two hundred in game one, but he
had three almost two hundred? Was it three forty two?
Was such a averaging three hundred a game? He threw
for three hundred and thirty four yards in the second game.
I don't want this to become Donald versus Mayfield. What
I'm saying is, Baker Mayfield is your future in Cleveland.

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At best. You're gonna be five hundred this year at best.
And I don't even think they get there. I think
most people think they don't get there. You don't get
the five hundred with Tyrod Taylor. So what are you
waiting for? We had Tony Dune on Monday and he said,
I think it's always best for guys to play peyton Man.
He led the league in interceptions as a rookie. Fine,

(08:09):
he's a rookie, we get it. But he was the future,
so they went with him. Baker Mayfield is definitely the future.
What are you waiting for? You're waiting for him to
show you like in the preseason games and in practice
he is that god. I mean, but he was. I
can make an argument that he was basically as good

(08:31):
as Taylor in the preseason. Can not. But but it
doesn't make any sense, Chris. They watch him every day.
If they really believed they had some magic with him,
he would be in the starting lineup. Because you're right,
the future is now. The only way you learn how
to play is by being out there playing in games.
That's how you do So I agree with that, but
I'm telling you that if the coaching staff really believed

(08:54):
he was the guy, he'd be out there. There's no
they didn't win the Super Bowl last year and they're like, well,
we're not gonna break in a rookie quarterback. No, they wouldn't.
They didn't win a game. I could argue that Hugh
is just trying to win a few games well to
save his job. No, but wait a minute, So you're
saying if it's not about this season, you know it,
it is about this season. No, because even at best

(09:16):
this season, you're gonna win about six or seven games,
but you only won one game in the last two years,
so it's about sposed to get overjoyed about six or seven. Yeah,
the guy that you know is not gonna be your
quarterback going forward. If you go if you win, let's say,
best case scenario, they go seven and nine, obviously missed
the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor. Next year, you're coming in

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and you're not starting over because your defense is solid
and you got some decent running backs and obviously you
still got you know, pretty good receivers and all that.
But with a new quarterback, in some sense, I'm starting
over get him in now. Even most people think by
second half of the season, Makefield's gonna be playing anyway.

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So what are you waiting for? Or it's a different
NFL rob, It's not all that is about now sitting
the rookie. A lot of these rookies we've seen step
in and play well right away, and there are other
guys who don't. He wasn't the only rookie who they
didn't put in. We we we saw in Buffalo and
uh and in Arizona where those rookie quarterbacks are haven't

(10:22):
gotten in. And my point is only that if they
really believe that he was that guy off the bat
and he could help them win a SAP right away,
you put him in and he's bad. Uh, here you
are with another bad What if he's bad? What what
if he's bad? What's the worst case scenari nothing? Then
you gotta take him out again. Then you gotta take

(10:43):
him out. We expect him to be bad. Josh Allen
starting in Buffalo now, he's not lightening it up. Yeah,
But the difference between against Jared Goffe when he was
in la rookie year poor But now I know a
lot of it was the coach, Jeff Fisher. But still
it's what we expect from our rookie. Didn't get up
on golf because he was bad. But Chris, the difference
in Buffalo was they've been awful that quarterback play. They

(11:06):
made the Peter last year, but Peterman started as quarterback.
Come on, now, just a character from Seinfeld's quarterback in them?
Who who who who? Now, granted this was a bad move,
but you're talking about you're giving the coaching staff credit
because they see him every day. That coaching staff in
Buffalo saw Peterman and Tyrod Taylor every day last year,

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and they decided to bench Taylor and put Peterman. It
was ridiculous because Peter went out there and threw three
to Peterman through five in the first half. But but
think about it, they thought he was better than Tyrode
a guy that through five interceptions in the first half.
That's my look. If he was behind then all pro

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or even you know, a solid you know, a really
good veteran, I would see it. And your team was,
you know, thinking we might be able to make the playoffs,
but you're rebuilding and Mayfield played just about as good
as Tyrode did in the press just about or he
did which one was just about. Just about is good enough.

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When you have won one game in two years and
you're starting a guy that you know is not your future,
they love Why Why because they don't think that he's ready.
It's just it's real simple. If he was ready, I
don't know that Hugh gave him a chance to be ready.
If he was so dynamic and he was was unbelievable,
I think that would have changed their minds. Well, But

(12:38):
the rookie is I did dynamic and unbelievable because I
don't think that Sam Donald was automatically penciled in. Then
when you watched him play, you realize, Chris, that he
is ready. He had poise, the stuff that he did
when I watched him make mistakes every room, nobody wants
to play through him. Nobody wants the guys to be perfect.
But I'm telling you, when you watch Sam Darnald, to me,

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it was so obvious this guy's a starting quarterback in
the NFL and that he deserved to start. There was
no way that they could mention when did they put
you on the darnal pay room. I'm all the way in,
I'm all the way in. I keep turning the conversation
to Sam darn And it's not because I'm an eg
jump professor at the USC either. I don't know about that. Look.

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with the NFL. But did you see this Troy Aitman,
I'm not even gonna call it a Twitter beef because
it really didn't escalate. But at radio host in Buffalo,
where Ryan Fitzpatrick was very mediocre, if that earlier in
his career, Joe D. Bass tweets last night, this is

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the direct tweet. I'm reading it. Ryan Fitzpatrick has sixteen
more passing tds in his career than Hall of Famer,
and he puts Hall of Famer in quotes Troy Aikman
in forty four less starts. Now, that was a shot
you could sometimes you could pass that office. Hey, I'm

(16:15):
just putting a fact out there. But he put Hall
of Famer in quotes as if Troy Aikman didn't really
deserve it, And Troy Aikman responds, who cares? Now, I
don't know Joe de BIASI, and I'm sure he does
a great job at what he does. But Rob, I'm wondering,
is he twenty two years old? Like it might be

(16:35):
a part of the millennials who only look at numbers
and and they don't look at winning and other stuff
that goes that plays a part in it. And I
think that that's that's the biggest thing. He might be
twenty two years old and it's not even just's numbers
because you you see sized it up. Well, winning obviously
is more important than just putting up a bunch of

(16:57):
individual numbers. Always have however, Yeah, but we're not even
talking about that. Let's just leave winning out and look
at numbers. You can't compare today's numbers in the NFL
passing for quarterbacks to the numbers of yesteryear. I mean, nowadays,
if a guy doesn't throw for four thousand yards, he's

(17:19):
a joke, right, You got some guys throwing for five thousand.
Back in the day, it was rare. John Elway through
for four thousand yards once. Well, because I'm saying that,
never through for four thousand yards because you used to
run the football. It was a different game. And now
it's all about passing. It's a passing league. Basically, running

(17:44):
backs have been neutralized or you know what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah,
I mean the running back used to be you know,
that was the glory position, the glamour position in the NFL,
and now it's not. It's a quarterback league now, and
so some of the numbers are like, are totally inflated.

(18:05):
And also, uh, you have to look at what Troy
Yakman did with those Cowboys, they won three Super Bowls. Hello,
it's this Mike go on. Hello, I mean seriously, like
to even Puttrick's name in the same sentence which Troy
Yakman is comical, it's well, especially when you put it

(18:25):
in there as the superior one. I mean, it's embarrassingly bad.
And it again, I don't know what this guy you know.
I guess he does a good job, but it does
show a lack of knowledge of the sport and the
way things are changed. You brought up the change in
style as far as running backs used to be a

(18:47):
more integral part of a team's offense. Quarterbacks didn't throw
the ball as much. But let's go to the rules too.
Back in the day eighties, nineties, certainly the seventies early
two thou when Akeman played. When back when Akeman played
in the nineties, quarterbacks were like football. They were football players, right,

(19:08):
meaning they they didn't have all these special rules to
protect them. You could hit them low, you could hit
them high, you can hit them in the mid section,
you could land your body on them. You could pick
them up and slam. I mean all this stuff. Today,
even the receivers. You you know, you could hit them
more down the field, you could be more physical with them.

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You certainly could clean their clock as they're going across
the midle. And now you have things where it's in
the grasp. You don't even have to totally, you know
what I mean, bring the quarterback down if you grab
his jersey, and if the refereee will blow the play
dead to preserve the quarterbacks. So quarterbacks have a lot
more leeway and an easier role just made it so

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much easier. Absolutely, they're like playing in a bubble almost,
you know, and you just give them time and you
you protect them, and I get it. It's business, you know.
It makes a game more exciting when the quarterbacks are
healthy and throwing for all these yards. But it's like
comparing if you go to the NBA and Larry Bird

(20:12):
clearly one of the greatest shooters of all time, right, yes, possibly,
but if you compare not covered Larry Bird during his
career during the heyday, I was covering the NBA starting
back in nineteen eighty seven, right right, When you look
at Larry Bird's three point shooting percentage, it wasn't great
because but it was you could if you just look

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at the numbers and say, you know, I don't know
Kawhi Leonard shot. You know it's shooting thirty eight thirty
nine percent from three point range. He's a better shooter
than Larry Bird. I mean, that's that's really the equivalent
of what this tweet was saying eight seven seven ninety
nine on Fox. Does this have any validity? I know

(20:56):
there's a lot of millennials off day, but really, does
anybody look at Fitzpatrick and really think that that he's
his numbers are better than Troy Aikman and you're discounting
a how many big games to Fitzpatrick play in? Do
you know what I mean? Like where you're down by
three touchdowns in the first quarter and you get to

(21:17):
just throw the rest of the game. I'm seriously, I
don't even think that this, this guy that tweeted this
thinks Ryan Fitzpatrick. I can't. I'm gonna give him no, no,
no no. But he wouldn't he want to put it
out He wouldn't have put it out there, and he
wouldn't have put Hall of Famer in question and quote?
Why would he put it in quote? To believe somebody

(21:38):
working in sports would actually think Ryan Fitzpatrick is better
than Troy. This is the thing that shocked me though,
and this is why I'm shocked. Why would Troy Aikman
even even validated by by you know what I mean,
even sending who cares? You're a Hall of Famer, you

(22:00):
won three Super Bowls, You're the lead color man on
NFL football. Why do you care if someone even puts
that out. I wouldn't even dignify it with even addressing
it or responding to it. Yeah, it may, you know,
that's a good point. I don't know if Troy knows
the guy, or you know, maybe followers even saw the

(22:21):
tweet or you know, I don't know. It didn't turn
into a big, you know, beef, but either, I mean,
this is ridiculous. And again I'm gonna give the guy,
Joe Debons more credit. I don't think he. I can't
believe he would think Ryan Fitzpatrick is a better three
point shooter. I'm sorry, is a better quarterback than Troy Aikman.

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I'm sorry, no, but you're right. He put it out there.
He put it out there. I was I was looking
at some three pointers. Larry Bird's career average from three
was thirty seven percent, but the three wasn't there relevant.
It shot better than that from three last season, So
that's my point. I mean, it's like saying, hey, Tony

(23:07):
Snell shot forty percent from three, last shot thirty seven percent.
I know I'm saying I'm being facetious, but I'm saying,
you can't compare numbers just without the context. And that's
really what the guy was doing. And you know, I
think Troy handled it well, You're right, he could have
ignored it, but I'm fine with it because it was

(23:29):
just absolutely ridiculous. The man who allegedly coined the name
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you so mean? I'm sorry? And by the way, the
guy that tweeted at Troy Agman, that's that's clickbait, isn't it. Yeah,
that's what it seems like. That's just poking, poking the
like I said, I'm gonna give him the benefit of
the dollas. There's no way he believes don't do that
because he put Hall of Famer day that. Yeah, that's
a dig. That was a dig. That was a dig.

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He clearly I can't believe he's older than twenty three
years old because he's disrespecting Troy Aikman like he was
just happening to be on a good team. Unbelievable, but anyway,
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and you can follow him on Twitter and at Mark Schlaith. Mark,
Welcome to The Odd Couple. How you doing. I'm doing good.
First thing, I gotta say, Rob, who cares about Rady?
You gotta care about Rady? That's test, you know. But
I'm just saying, hey, hey, stink. This is the only
thing I'm saying is they keep saying Tiger's back, but
I'm just saying he hasn't won. He hasn't won a

(27:10):
tournament in five years, hasn't won a major in ten years.
I mean, he hasn't won anything in a really long time.
Which all I'm saying is when you win again, let
me know. Yeah, well I will tell you this though.
I was believing the TV during the the PGA Championship
watching Digger Woods compete. So, um, I'm alway. I love it.

(27:32):
I love watching the compete. Yeah, I know he hasn't
want anything, but boy, it feels like he's closed. It
feels like, yeah, I digress. Go ahead, man, what's up?
What's up with? It's going to be on you guys program.
It's great to have you got so much to get into.
We were talking about this the last segment. I don't
know if you saw the Troy Aikman situation on Twitter,

(27:53):
but a Buffalo radio host tweeted out there, Ryan Fitzpatrick,
who you you love? You called him fits magic right,
great nickname. Um, but he tweeted out that he's got
forty four more or sixteen more I believe career touchdowns
and Troy Aikman fewer games, sixteen more touchdowns and forty

(28:16):
four few games? You played with John Elway who who
threw for four thousand yards only one time in his career,
but obviously he's one of the all time great quarterbacks.
Can you just explain, maybe for the millennials who are
out there listening, how much different the game is for
the quarterbacks and why these guys are putting up even

(28:36):
average quarterbacks nowadays are putting up numbers that dwarf all
time greats from eras in the past. All right, well,
I would say, I would say, start, Yeah, he may
have more touchdowns, but I think probably has more wins,
and I'm sure that he has more Super Bowl rests.
But you know, I mean, that's just me saying that, Like,

(28:58):
the game is so different. Like when I first came
in the league, man, we threw so many seventh step
drops and you had to sit back and drive the
football down the football, you know, the deep corner routes
to deep in cutting routes, all those things. That's that's
how the game was. So it was seven step drops
with two hitches deep over routes. Very much more difficult

(29:20):
number one to complete the passage. So you're completion percentage.
You know, if you were quote if you were in
the i fifties, you were really good Now if you're
not you know, not if you're not sixty five, you're
just kind of you know, you're just kind of hovered
in the average area. And on top of that, you know,
you have to think about the way the rules have
all been been to favor the quarterback. You can't hit

(29:42):
the I mean, if you eat onions pre game and
you walk by the quarterback, you're getting a fifteen yards.
I swear to you, guys, I literally started lifting again.
I'm absolutely yoked simply because I believe eventually they're going
to eliminate contact from the game. And I'm gonna make
a comeback if they eliminated. If you don't have to
hit anybody anymore, I could play. So you know, they've

(30:05):
been all the rules so you can't touch the quarterback.
He totally protected the quarterback. And on top of that,
you're protecting the receivers. You can't chock a guy after
five yards. You can't touch a guy. You know, every
rule is bent to producing on the offensive side of
the ball. So to sit there and point the figure
at one of the most accurate quarterbacks we've ever watched
play the game. One of the toughest guys we've watched

(30:27):
player in the game and say, well, Ryan Fitzmagic. You know,
Fitzpatrick is better than Troy Aikman. Are to infer that
is absolutely ludicrous. It's stupidity, is what it is. Hey, Mark,
two quarterbacks. I want to get your opinion on Patrick
Mahomes with the Chiefs and Sam Donald with the Jets.
Tell me about each quarterback. What you like about it
so far? I like about that. Well, like so far,

(30:49):
I've been thoroughly impressed. Let's start with Sam Donald. For
a rookie, for any quarterback, he's made his share of
stupid mistakes. You know, he's made share of getting baited
into a couple of throws. But I'm telling you what
you watch him dissect to play. He's blue collar. He's
incredibly athletic, He's got an unbelievably quick release, and I've

(31:13):
seen him make big time unfl throws, but more importantly,
big time decisions breaking down and understanding route combinations versus
coverage going to the right guy. So that's the guy
to me that just jumps off the film. Yeah, you know,
he threw the slant. He read man. They were in
a cover three last week. He read man on the

(31:33):
double slants. The safety. The safety acted like he was
he was in man on the tight end, took two
steps and stopped and undercut the slant. And you know,
I mean, it was a great play by the safety
of Miami. Tip your cap. A lot of quarterbacks are
getting fooled by that play. So there's that. But I'm
telling you what. You watch him dissected defense, you watch

(31:54):
him understand what the concepts are. He's been unbelievable. I
was skeptical on Mahomes that Mahomes was gonna have this
kind of start. Like I was kind of like, hey,
there's gonna be some mistakes. He's a big play guy.
But he's been nothing short of amazing. You watch him
understand coverage, understand who he wants to go to. I've

(32:15):
seen him one of the most impressive throws. Week one.
He threw a slant in the second window to Tyreek Hill.
He took it for about sixty five yards and he
waited at that first that the first part of the
slant and the first kind of window of the slant
was covered. He waited till he got to the second
He kind of dropped his arms slot, slung it in there,
took one in the teeth. I mean, he absolutely got

(32:36):
his He just got his teeth rattled and it was
on point on the money. Tyreek hillcott it and then
the rest is history. You know that guy's that guy's
you know, faster than Greece. So I mean it was unbelievable.
But that kid, what he did last week throwing the
six touchdowns, he made some unbelievable pros in the middle
of the football field, in the seams. Based on coverage

(32:57):
to Travis Kelson, he's been nothing short of amazing as well,
So you know, I will tip my cap there. Although
the Kansas City Chiefs come on, they are kind of
September's darlings, aren't they. They always won a lot of
games early and then they get around the playoffs and
they just poop in our hats. So you know, I'm
all wait to pass judgment on them. Give me December
and January before I really passed judgments. But so far

(33:19):
he's passed every test. It's the eye couple with Chris
Bruce already. Rob Parker. We're joined by Fox Sports NFL
analyst Mark Schlaith and Mark Um. We were arguing earlier
Rob and I about whether or not the Browns should
just go ahead and start playing Baker Mayfield. What's your
take on the situation? Well, I mean, I think, one,

(33:41):
you have and you have invested in a lot of
a lot of young players and some veteran players, and
you want to give those guys a chance to win
a game and to consistently win. And I think the
veteran quarterback probably gives you at this point the best
chance to do that. There's no question when you watch
them on film, they're a far more talented team than

(34:03):
they've been the last couple of years. If they had
a kicker, they would be two and oh right. So
I think I think you look at the way they
have played. I mean, come on, they kept Drew Brees
and that offense I believe under three hundred yards um.
And you know, and and uh week week one, I
mean they handled it. They handled Pittsburgh as well. So

(34:26):
you know, defensively they've been they've been. I mean, they've
been pretty lights out. Um. And you're right, if they
had a kicker, they'd be tuning it. They were like
the Chargers last year. You had a kicker, you go
to the playoffs. So I think at this point, um,
you know, you stick with Taylor, um until you get
to the point where you're just kind of out of it.
But you gotta be excited if you're a Browns fan,

(34:47):
like you have to be kind of excited about what
they've built so far, just from a from a personnel standpoint,
you know, and sometimes winning it just takes one before
you start to get that confidence, before you start to believe.
And what you're doing right now, it's almost like you're
you're playing not to lose games, and that's a horrible
place to be. But they are so much more talented

(35:08):
than they've been at any point in the last couple
of years. Um, they're pretty exciting football team to watch.
Great job, Mark, We appreciate the time. Even though you're
wrong than he was right. You were right on the money.
I know you knew Rob was saying that. You just
you just protected him nature you protect, you protect the quarterback.

(35:30):
I get after Rob on the tire woods thing. I
want to protect him on Cleveland. There you go, absolutely,
Thanks Mark, Thanks man, you got Hey, there's there's a
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can't think of the show. Ye, The Simpsons. It's a
TV theme song Thursday here on the Odd Couple on
Fox Sports Radio. I never watched The Simpsons, did you.
Uh not really. I wasn't a big Simpsons guy either.
I mean I know who the characters are. I've seen
some of the episodes, but I mean it's been on
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(37:20):
It's the longest one in TV show ever, isn't it.
I don't know, but yeah, it's it must be up there.
That's a nice little remix though, Alex that different threw
a little something something something in there. All right, Well,
you know we're talking about Troy Aikman and his little
Twitter squabble with a radio show host in Boss in Buffalo.

(37:41):
Did you see what went on with Stephen Jackson and
Andrew Wiggins. I would got Stephen Jackson Fox Sports. Well, yeah,
NBA analysts played in the Big Three. You know, we
obviously have him up at FS one a lot and
was one of the tougher guys in the league, very
well respected in the league, played hard. I don't think

(38:04):
Andrew Wiggins really wants anything to mess, you know, to
mess with Stephen Jackson. I'll second that. I just he's
a tough customer, but he did, you know. Jackson posted
an Instagram video yesterday after Jimmy Butler's trade request became public,
saying Wiggins didn't have heart, And then Wiggins did, to

(38:25):
his credit, he went back at Jack and called him
an old man. Said old guys always hating, and you know,
he just said he was a bum. And you know,
as an old man. Yeah, old dudes called him an
old dude, old dude, stay hayting like he was anything special. Bum.
I keep that same energy everywhere I go. And then

(38:46):
you know, I think Wiggins brother chimed in that Jack
probably averaged six points a game for his career. Jack
posted his career status, which I think he averaged about
fifteen points for his career, has several twenty point season
and you know, want to ring with the he had
a good career, He had a solid career. He had
a really nice Yeah you don't, you can't, you can't

(39:08):
poople his career. He had a really can't do good career.
But the nice thing is today Jack tweeted that Jerry Stackhouse,
a long time NBA player, you know him well from
and you know. Now he's a coach assistant coach with
the Memphis Grizzlies, been in a few places a head coach, right.
I thought he was going to get a job this year. Yeah,

(39:29):
I think he will in the future. But he texted
Stack to just you know, let it go and and
I think that's a good look because you know, Stack
is like old enough to be Wiggin's dad. You know,
it depending on when he started you know, relations and
all that. But um, if he started Earl, he could
be Wiggin's dad. So I like that. That's not what

(39:53):
you wanted to say. But we got a radio show now, right,
But yeah, you know this Jimmy but Er thing. Yeah,
there's a part of me, and I'm with you. We
talked about it yesterday. You know, he wants to go
to some teams where he can kind of be I
don't think he'll be the man because he's gonna, you know,
hopefully he wants to bring another starterre like if he

(40:14):
goes to the Clippers, he hopes Kawhi comes or Kyrie Irving.
They're better than Wiggins and I mean better than Butler,
So he would be the second guy. But there's a
part of me too. That's like, hey man, you got
great young talent in Minnesota, and okay, they got Maybe
they're not ready, They're not quite where they need to be.
They need to learn how to win. But teach them,

(40:35):
lead them, teach them how to win, no doubt, you know,
rather than running out on him. I mean, I look,
he can do what he wants. He'll be a free
agent next summer. He clearly wants a big city. The
reports now are that he prefers the Clippers, which would
be interesting if if he and Kawuhi do end up there,

(40:56):
would they be better than the Lakers with Lebron only starter?
That is a really, really good question. Yeah, we depend
on how these young guys develop. And we'll talk about
in the next hour, right, we'll talk about We'll get
to that, but it'll be interesting. Stick around. It'stid a
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(41:17):
I am Chris Brusart. That is my partner, Rob Parker.
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time at home in about three years against the New
York Jets, and it's really gonna be an exciting game.
I can't wait for it to begin. A can't wait
for this next interview, Rob, this is the guy. Let
me say this real quick about the Jets Brown game.

(42:01):
It's a big game as well. If think about this,
if Sam Darnald and the Jets win, will you believe it?
Will you get off of Sam darn will have two
He will have two road wins, his first two wins
in the NFL road game. You know how hard it
is to win on the road in the NFL. It's hard.
I like Sam Darnald. I'm all talking about him like

(42:21):
he's already the Hall of Fame allege. Anyway, as I
was beginning before, I was so rudely interrupted by my colleague. Uh,
this is a guy, Rob, you and I have known
for a decade. And what was colleague with gusts coming up? Yes,
and he does a terrific job. He's an ESPN senior

(42:43):
writer and you can follow him at on Twitter at
Ian Underscore O'Connor. And he's got a book coming out
next week in store September twenty fifth, called Belichick the
makings of the greatest coach of all time. Ian, Welcome
to the Eye Couple. Great to have you on. Hey, guys,
congratulations on the show, and it's great to be with you.

(43:04):
Well appreciate it. And Chris, Ian and I go way
back to when we first started in New York Ian
back in what the eighty six, eighty seven around that time. Yeah,
I was a little later than that, but yeah, that's
that's about right. And he's always trying to trying to
make everybody a hold old age. Yeah, I'm old enough.

(43:26):
I don't want Rob adding two years to my somewhere
around there. Those magical times, man, I really always loved
being in your presence. You're you're one of the true
gentlemen in the in the industry, and you're going into
the Hall of Fame, right, I just saw that come
across social media recently. Are you going into the NA
NA b J. They named me Sports Journalists of the

(43:49):
Year this past year was in Detroit, so it was
a great honor. And thanks Ian for mentioning. Yeah, no,
that was great. You deserve it. Thank you well. Ian.
Of course I'm this book man. Excerpts were released earlier
this week, and it just looks terrific. Let's just start,
you know, with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. You wrote
that it looks like Brady, you know, almost didn't come

(44:11):
back this year, that he wants a divorce from Bill Belichick.
What is the state of their relationship? How would you
describe it? I think, Chris now it's it's functioning, and
it was always just a pretty cold, transactional relationship. There
was never any warranth or love. That never went out
to dinner. The love and that relationship that Brady gets
is from robber Craft. They lived next to each other,

(44:32):
they're they're very close. But with Belichick, it's been all
business and that kind of that wore him down after
seventeen eighteen years of being coached that way. When Belichick
took away team access to Brady's business partner and fitness
coach Alex Guerrero, that created a real problem. And when
Belichick benched Malcolm Butler, you know, Malcolm Butler meant a

(44:54):
ton to Brady's legacy because if he doesn't intercept that
ball again Seattle, now Brady's three and three in the
big gaming than one one in ten years. That Butler
interception changed both of those legacies, Belichick and Brady. So
he was not happy at all with that decision and
how it impacted that game and in the offseason. I
was told by sources as late as late March he

(45:15):
was seriously thinking about not playing for Belichick again. He
wanted to play for the fans. He wanted to play
for the uniform, for New England, for Josh McDaniels, and
for Craft. But I think the reason ultimately he decided
to come back was after he inspired them the trade Garoppolo,
he realized he had no choice that if he walked away,
the fans would have turned on him. Now that when

(45:38):
you talk about that, I don't think what Belichick was
trying to do. And I know there's a competition between
the two. Is it the system that Belichick did or
is it Brady being this great quarterback? Which one? Is
it that wags the dog that is the Patriots. But
Belichick going to get a younger quarterback and groom him
to be ready. Most people make sense. Joe Montana didn't

(46:02):
finish in San Francisco, Nita did Peyton Manning. Do you
know what I mean? This is not unusual what Belichick
was doing, right, No, I'm not saying it was unusual.
Robin in twenty fourteen when he drafted Garoppolo, go back
and look at Brady's numbers in twenty twelve and thirteen.
They were diminishing and his arm strength was down. Coaches

(46:23):
and practice were really concerned. He never threw the go route.
And I think one of the reasons why they kept
bringing in intermediate and receivers and going with the double
tight end set was his inability to really go deep.
And so the drafting of Garoppolo almost seemed to light
a new flame under Brady because obviously he wins it
all in fourteen, wins it all again in sixteen with

(46:45):
the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history, and then as
the MVP of the league. So I agree with you
when he drafted Garoppolo, that was a smart decision. And
that night after he drafted him, he cited Tom's age
and his contract status and he said, I'd rather be
early than late at this position. But that doesn't mean
Brady was happy about it. Brady is a very proud

(47:06):
and sometimes sensitive guy, and he remembered at Michigan he
waited and waited and waited to be the start of
Lloyd Carton brought in everybody's all American, Drew Henson, and
I think he looked at Garoppolo as another Drew Henson,
and he was very sensitive to that. Ian. One of
the best excerpts I read was it was it was unbelievable,

(47:27):
was that the coaching staff of the Patriots feels like
there's about fifteen quarterbacks out there, the top fifteen quarterbacks
in the league. You put any of them in New
England and they could lead them to Super Bowls like
Tom Brady has. There's a strong implication there that they
don't really think Tom Brady's anything special. Is that true?

(47:50):
I think that well, that quote, Chris comes from that period.
I was just talking about when and if when the
book comes out. I think I think that was lost
yesterday in the discussion when some of the excerpts came out.
People missed that point that it was when Brady's arm
strength was diminishing and his numbers were getting worse and
the draft pick was made. The coaching staff at that point,

(48:11):
according to source who's right in the middle of it,
told me that they understood that Brady was a very
very good player and that not anybody you could plug
in there would win multiple championships when Brady hadn't won
the big one in a while, and they did feel
that if you gave us one of those top fifteen
players in that system, we would win at a high
and consistent level. Does that mean three because Brady had

(48:34):
three at that point, I don't know about that, but
certainly one, if not two, and they did feel that way.
Now do they feel that way now and the staff
has changed a little bit from that, I would say no.
My understanding is they don't feel that way now. But
it was a different time and place in Foxborough at
the end of that twenty thirteen season. Again, go back
and look at the stats. Things seem to be trending

(48:55):
the wrong way for Brady, and then all of a
sudden he kicked it into a new gear. You'll listening
to the couple on Fox Sports Radio. I guess is
Ian O'Connor, ESPN senior writer, an author of Belichick the
makings of the greatest coach of all time and stores
coming up September twenty fifth. And when we talk about Brady,
I always say Brady might be the most accomplished because

(49:16):
of the five Super Bowl wins and whatnot, But Aaron
Rodgers is the best quarterback. Would you buy into that
as far as ability and what he can do with
the football? Well? Yeah, From a physical talent standpoint, Aaron
Riders reminds me of a modern Roger Starback. I've always
thought that Starback was one of my favorite players. He

(49:37):
was my favorite player growing up, and I see Rogers
as a better version of him. And from a talent standpoint,
when you include the arm and everything else, the mobility, yeah,
I think he's probably the most talented guy ever to
do it. Now, from a physical standpoint, it's hard to
say that anyone was more impressive than Cam Newton playing

(49:58):
that position, right when look at everything he has Now,
he doesn't have the ring, so you can't really you
can't give him that title. But I don't know if
a more physically talented person other than Cam Newton has
ever played that position. Rogers has accomplished more and certainly
Brady has as well. But if you ask me today,
you've got to win one game, I still would go

(50:20):
with Brady because I do think he's got an intangible
there that separates him from everybody else, including Rodgers. Man,
I was there, he had a chance to win that
second ring that year they went fifteen and one, and
he lost that first playoff game as the Giants. I know,
I know Tom Brady has lost two Super Bowls to
the Giants, but to me, Brady's not losing that game.
And Roger's got some drops and some bad luck in

(50:41):
that game. I understand that. But I think that Tom
Brady with the same set of circumstances in Green Bay
would have that second ring. And I do think he's
got an intangible that separates him from everyone else playing
that position. And you know, Aaron Rodgers probably would have
a couple more Wings wins if they had the other

(51:02):
team's defensive signals as well, so that probably would help out. Well, wait,
a second rider bought that game after spy game. But
I will say this, Rob, if you put Rogers under
Belichick in that Patriot wage system, he's got what he's
got to have three rings by now, question No. No question. Well,
you mentioned earlier Malcolm Butler in the benching in the

(51:22):
Super Bowl, and all your research and talking to all
these different people, did you get any explanation for why
Belichick did that? And you know what are some maybe
some of the various theories that are floating around New
England as to what in the world was going through
Belichick's head. Well, it starts, Chris with him being sick.
That that that was a bad start at the beginning

(51:43):
of that week, right, so now he's a day behind
getting to Minneapolis, and he admitted to ESPN dot Com
that he didn't have a great week of practice in
part because he was sick, so that that was part
of it. And I don't think my reporting I could
not find I heard the different rumors that were out
there about he didn't didn't do that week away from
the field. Really, I did not have enough sourcing to

(52:05):
go at any of that. I think it was strategic.
I think Belichick and talk to some people and this
is educated speculation. It was the opposite of what he
did as the Giants defensive coordinator against Buffalo in the
ninety ninety one Super Bowl, where he decided the game
plan was take the ball out of Jim Kelly's hands,
and let's allow Thurman Thomas to run for over one
hundred yards and turn a fast breaking full court basketball

(52:27):
team into a half court team. That was the Giant style.
They wanted to play a half court game, and they did.
And so in this case, he looked at those two
powerful running backs at the Eagles right, and he looked
at his defense and said, no high tower Nikovitch retired,
chadla Jones isn't here anymore, or Jamie Collins has gone.
He had such a talent drain in that defense. I

(52:47):
really think he was more concerned about those running backs
than he was Nick Foles. So he decided, let's force
them to beat us with Foles throwing the ball. And
in the first half that plan didn't work. And I
don't beIN It's done a lot of unconventional things, So
I don't necessarily blame him for starting the game without Butler.
But at halftime at a Super Bowl, when you have
forever to make an adjustment, and he's the best adjustment

(53:09):
coach of all time, how do you not go back
to Butler in the second half? And to me, that's
where he made the big mistake, no doubt about it.
And last thing, I think it's hard to look at
Belichick and just say he's one of the greatest, the
greatest coach of all time when he has that Spygate
hanging around his neck. How do you just maneuver around net?

(53:31):
And there's always been questions about what the Patriots do
Spygate Deflake Gate, There's other allegations. Eric Mangini went out
and talked about how they do their business. Josh McDaniels
got fired in Denver for doing taping teams walk throughs.
You know what I mean, How can you say Belichick
is the greatest of all time? And why doesn't he

(53:52):
get dinged because of those other things that go along
with his winning? Oh dinged him in the book for that.
And in fact, I've got new Spygate d tales rob
about the day of the camera was confiscated, that there
was an FBI agent involved, there was an undercovered cop
who was involved with the infiltrating the Genevez crime family.
He was involved in it. There was another New Jersey
State trooper and they're the ones who actually refereed an

(54:15):
argument between the Jets and Patriots over the camera and
they confiscated the camera and gave it to the NFL,
and that started spygate. But I didn't give him a
pass on that. I think his point in looking at
it and studying it for three years and talking to
three hundred and fifty people. I don't think spygate gave
him a significant advantage. I really don't. I think it
was an advantage, but if you think about it, he's right.

(54:35):
He said, Look, eighty thousand people can see the coaches signals.
All we did was we filmed them. But everyone in
the building can see the signals. And if you had
a guy in the booth looking at the signals, he
would write it down and then match it up to
the film later. So the advantage, I don't know how
significant it really was. You get different people in the
NFL saying different things about that. But I do believe this, Rob,

(54:55):
and you can. I think you disagree with me on this,
and that's fine. If you took away spygate and if
the flake it happened and some of the other things,
I still think they have five rings. I really do.
They might. They might, And I guess my only thing
is when you're that great, you shouldn't be your name
shouldn't be marred. He was also fine a half a million, right,
half a million dollars and had picks taken away, so

(55:16):
it had to be uh, you know, bad enough for that.
He was punished more so than any other coach in
the history of the NFL. That's all I'll say this
if you, if you have that opinion, I think that's
a fair opinion. Okay, I don't share it, but I
think if you feel that way, and I know other
people who do as well, I think that's a very
fair opinion. Ian great stuff, man who luck with the book?

(55:39):
Getting my hands on this book. It'll be in stores
September twenty fifth, Belichick the makings of the greatest coach
of all time. Despite what Rod Parker says, A great
job man, Thank you. Hey, guys, you know I've always
respected both of you. A great, great deal, and I
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That's right, that's right. Send in your request if there's
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I just wanted to make sure okay, all right, I
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(57:28):
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They have to countdown clock for the postseason. So it's
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right now, or in the Bronx is three to two
Boston in the third inning, so there's some important games
being played. The Dodgers swept Colorado last night. We get

(57:50):
a big home run, so yeah, there's a lot of
good stuff going on right now. Absolutely well, speaking of countdown,
it's really could be the countdown to the end of
Bryce Harper's tenure in Washington with the Nationals. I think
they got what seven, a seven game homestand could be
the last homestand and eventually home game of his career

(58:11):
in Washington. He was asked about that, he said, I
haven't really thought about it. I think it's really hit
that last I think it'll really hit that last game.
I guess running off the field or something like that.
I'm just trying to enjoy it and see what happens. Rob.
You know the talk, there's talk that he could end
up with the Yankees or the Dodgers, or the Red

(58:32):
Sox or the Cubs. On the undred million dollars, the
Cubs are the favorite. Yeah, that's the talk. Do you
think he's worth four hundred million dollars? Which is all
the talk about how much he's gonna get that? That
was the talk a couple of years ago. I don't
see it because he hasn't had the type of years.

(58:54):
You know. It's playing much better since the All Star breaks.
He's in about three hundred since the off Yeah, but
if you're remember he also put a fifteen before that.
He also put on an absolute show. Uh at the
All Star Game, which I was at in DC. The
home run derby was unbelievable. Was it was from. I
was hoping that jump started him, and it did. But

(59:16):
I don't see it. I think the Yankees are out now.
At one point, everybody thought he was gonna be with
the Yankees because they have standing, they have judge, they
have all these young kids who are playing so well.
I just don't see where they have to have him.
I think that's why the Cubs have moved up as
a favorite. And but I do believe he's played, he's

(59:36):
going to leave Washington, and uh, they just didn't get
it done there. You know they had they have so
much talent and with all the pitching, Yes, they were
supposed to have won something with that pitching and Bryce Harper,
but I don't know when he never got out of
the divisional series. Yeah, it's unbelievable losses in the divisional series?

(59:58):
How how how often they were disappointing when the when
the playoffs came. But I'll say this, Uh, I don't
think Bryce Harper has been disappointing or his career to
this point. When people think about this young kid out
of Las Vegas and you remember the YouTube videos Chris
and this guy crushing the ball, I mean, he's made

(01:00:19):
his mark in Major League Baseball and it's probably one
of the top three or four recognizable players in the game.
Would you agree he maybe who's more recognizable? Mc trout
is obviously better, right Trout? And of course Judge playing
in New York and hitting home runs. Yeah, Judge is
up there. I mean, just as far as celebrities in

(01:00:42):
Major League Baseball, I think he's probably at the top. Now.
He's not the best player, I know what I mean,
like celebrity name recognition and all that, it's probably Bryce Harper.
The interesting thing about Harper is that his I mean
you look at his career and it's almost like a

(01:01:05):
seesaw or a roller coaster. Like he won MVP in
twenty fifteen, hit three thirty forty two homers, great year,
comes back the next year hits two forty three, like
that young to have that type of drop off after
an MVP year. Then he comes back the year after

(01:01:26):
and hits almost three twenty again. And you know, his
homers have been pretty consistent for the most part. But
then this year he comes back and he's below two fifty.
So that's what's interesting to me. Look, he's a star.
Even this year early in the season first half when
he was struggling, his homers were up, his walks were up,

(01:01:47):
his RBI were up. You know, he was still being productive,
especially in this analytic age, and that's probably a you know,
part of why he made the All Star team. Plus
his name. But um, look, I'll say this, I think
the only place he goes there. To me, there are
two places he could go and become a bigger star

(01:02:11):
and celebrity, and that's to me New York with the
Yankees or the Red Sox. I think he goes to
the Obviously, the Dodgers are huge markets, the couple market,
there's no doubt, but the Yankees and the Red Sox,
the Yankees are just consistently there they've had It feels

(01:02:32):
like he should be a Yankee, you know, they went out.
His favorite team was the Yankees growing up as a
kid in Las Vegas, So that's why people have always
believed that. The other thing I think people don't even
realize is how young he is. Chris. Just take a
guess how old is Bryce Harden's six twenty five years old.
He's young, He's got a long Guys don't get into

(01:02:53):
their prime in baseball till they're like thirty two years old.
But did you let me ask, do you think if
he got because he's already arguably the biggest celebrity in
the game, if he goes to the Dodgers, does he
get bigger, bigger? I think it's only the Red Sox
or the Yankees where he blows up into an even

(01:03:13):
bigger celebrity than he is right now. Well, it just
depends on where the Dodgers are. You Remember they haven't
won a World Series since nineteen eighty eight. Does he
lead them to a World Series? Right? That would make
him a bigger star. But here's the like, Washington, I mean,
they're not gonna make the playoffs. Is I don't think
they're mathematically eliminated, but they're not going to make it.

(01:03:37):
It's not like you don't have a team there that
could do something right. So that's why I'm saying to me,
I mean, granted, the money is key. Are they gonna
give him four hundred million or you know, are they
gonna match whatever offers out there for him? But it's
still it's a powerful market. You know, it's the nation's capital.
You got a good team that has a chance of

(01:03:58):
making the postseason pretty much every year because of the pitching,
and this wasn't off year. Things just fell apart. It was.
It was really weird. They were very, very inconsistent. But
I agree, Washington, you know, should have been should be
an option. But it looks like they're like fifth or
sixth on the list of teams that people think he
would that he would sign with. So that's weird, um

(01:04:22):
from that standpoint. If you're a fan in Washington, you're
bummed out because a guy who should have been a
star and where that uniform his whole career is about
to move on, and and uh nothing got done while
he was in DC. Where would you like to see
him land? Good question. Um, I'd say I'd say stay

(01:04:43):
in the National League and either Cubs or Dodgers. M yeah,
I mean the Yankees have so much star power and
they got a lot of young kids, so good. Yeah, yeah,
I mean Boston would be interesting. I don't know if
I'm showing my new year, you know, any news coast
by Yeah, but you know, I think if he went

(01:05:05):
to Boston, I think that would add even more to
the rivalry between the Red Sox and Yankees, don't you think.
I mean, having his personality and all that and having
him in the al least. Oh. Absolutely, there's no doubt
about it. Yeah, it's going to be very very interesting
on how this thing plays out. But I don't see
him going back to Washington. I would be shocked. Yeah,

(01:05:26):
I'm with you on that, Lebron, Speaking of moving around,
I see what you're doing. I just want to know
why that's next. But first they have Carson's in to
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punt test going on in Cleveland now, A pair of
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(01:05:47):
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of this game is scoreless. NFL News Vikings running back
Dalvin Cook missed his second straight practice today because of
a hamstring injury. TMZ sharing an interview they did with
the attorney for Colin Kaepernick, Mark Garrigos, who says two
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(01:06:08):
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and the Patriots. College Football News Ohio State All American
Nick Bosa had surgery for a core muscle injury he
suffered against TCU last week. In no timetable for his
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They lead the Yankees four two bottom of the third,

(01:06:29):
Rays and Blue Jays nodded at two a piece bottom
of the fifth. The AL Central champion Indians trail the
White Sox four to Chicago they're in the bottom of
the fourth Braves, who lead the NL East, lead the
Phillies two to one, and earlier today in Oakland, the
A's outslu the Angels twenty one to three. Oakland sits
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(01:06:51):
They also trail Idle Houston by three and a half
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way is easier. And Rob, there was an announcement came out.
I don't know, if I don't know, I think it
was yesterday that Lebron James is going to do a
remake of Space Jam. Remember that great movie with Michael

(01:07:36):
Jordan's and all these cartoon characters, was Bugs, Bunny and
all these guys in that right, But yeah, that was
in the ninety mid nineties, mid to late nineties, and
Lebron's doing a remake of it, and you got a
problem with that. I just think he should do something

(01:07:56):
that's original and something that he can claim as his own.
I mean, you're you're trying to run away from the
Michael Jordan's comparisons right your whole career, and now you're
gonna redo a movie that he did. I just I
don't understand it. Do something original that's that you put
your own name to it and people can remember that

(01:08:17):
as your movie you made during during your time in
the NBA. That's all I think. And I think there's
a miss like like, you know, obviously we were both
good friends with Skip Bayless and we're on his show
Undisputed on the FS won a lot with he and
Shannon Sharp, and you know, Skip brings it up a

(01:08:38):
lot about Lebron, you know, wearing number twenty three because
of Michael Jordan and kind of inviting the comparisons, you know,
as if Lebron, you know, he's saying, I'm gonna be
better than Jordan and the next Jordan. I actually think
that Lebron's you know, decision to wearing number twenty three
the powder toss. Didn't Jordan used to do that absolutely.

(01:08:58):
I covered many game sitting courtside when he did it
in front of him right right. And so the powder
toss and then even this making remaking a Space Jam
I think Lebron does it out of really love and
respect for Michael Jordan. I mean, that was his hero
growing up. That's the guy, you know, was his favorite player.

(01:09:19):
He was the guy that you know, I want to
say he modeled his game after him, because there were
a lot of other influences on him in that regard,
but you know, Michael Jordan was his favorite player, and
he knew Jordan was the best. So I don't take
these things like wanting to remake Jordan's movie as you know,
I'm trying to outdo Michael, or I'm better than Michael,
or compare me to Michael. I think he's doing them

(01:09:42):
out of you know, respect for his favorite player as
a kid. I mean you can look at it that way.
I just think at some point, you know, make your
own way, and and he has for the most part.
He's a different player than Michael Jordan. I get all that,
but the comparisons just continue, and this is just another one.
My god, just let it go. He's doing all these

(01:10:04):
other projects. Just do something original, say I want to
be hold on he's doing it. Don't do space don't
do Space Jam Please? What I wouldn't you make movies?
I would rather him all the time. I would rather
him do Jaws five? How about that? Did he do
Graws five? Instead? He comes to La. He gets in

(01:10:26):
the water and a great white you know it's chasing Well,
you mentioned all the other things he do. He's got
his show on HBO. What's the shop or the barber shop?
The shop? Yeah, he stole my idea. I mean it
seems like every other day there's an announcement. I think

(01:10:47):
now he's gonna produce a Ben Simmons TV show. I
told you he's out of the championship business. I told
you this when he first came to La. Lebron James
wants to be Meryl Street. That's what he wants to be.
He's out of the championship business. But he came here.
If I'm a Lakers fan and and all I hear

(01:11:08):
all summers about Lebron and everything else other than basketball,
I'm not happy about it. I'm sorry his focus doesn't
seem to be on trying to deliver a championship back
in Los Angeles. It's about it's about his post basketball career.
He's got plenty of time for that under his direction,

(01:11:28):
and that hadn't come out. But I'm sure that he's
helping with the direction of the team. They went out
and added. Now they're not terrific players anymore. But you
can't tell me his focus hasn't been on helping build
the Lakers when he helped them go out and get
Land Stevenson, Michael Beasley, Rajon Ron, JaVale mcgay. I'm just

(01:11:49):
saying like there was nobody else out there. I know
there aren't huge names, but that was what was out there.
But quit to say he went to summer league. You
know he and you know Rob, I mean Michael Jordan. Heck,
when Michael Jordan made Space Jam, he was That was
the year, the summer after he had come back from

(01:12:11):
baseball and didn't look Jordan esque in the playoffs, got
beat by the Orlando Magic in the second round, and
Jordan was like, man, I'm coming back with ferocity the
next year. And so even in the summer he's making
this movie. He comes back it has, you know, that's
I think that's the year they won seventy two games,

(01:12:31):
they win a championship. You know, So you can't tell
me that just because he's doing all these other things,
he's not going to give it his all and have
a great season basketball, Chris. He's unfocused and winning doesn't
seem to be a part of it. I'm sorry, you
just just just did those facts. I just threw out you.

(01:12:52):
You just they just went in one ear and out
the other. I don't want to hear anything you said.
I'm telling you if if you were a Laker friend,
like really, like every day there's a there's a new
announcement about some other projects. I'm just saying he could
do whatever he wants on his free time. No, no,
I guess he can. Yeah he can't him for it,
But I just don't. I just would rather be about basketball.

(01:13:13):
And here that Lebron James. It's just like it just
doesn't feel good or look good. It's like Lonzo Ball.
He's dropping a a album and all this stuff, and dude,
you're shooting of forty five percent from the free throw line.
Do do you know what I mean? Like, well, one
doesn't have anything, but one has about Lebron. You can say, Lebron,

(01:13:35):
you're doing all these outside things, but look at his numbers,
look at his production, no people, where was he going realistically?
Where was he going to go? Where you would say
he's still in the championship business. He could have stayed
went to Philadelphia and I would have believed that he
was still in the championship business. If he joined the
seventy six ers with those two guys in the Eastern Conference,

(01:13:57):
I would say, not only's Lebron gonna go to the
finals again out of the East, because he would he
would he would have had a shot to win. That's
I would have believed that. And I'm telling you I
don't get to give you that. But you don't think
he's trying to build a team like his hope is
they get Kauhi. They think they're getting Kauhi now, the Clippers.
I know there's a lot of reports out there about
the Clippers, and the Clippers feel confident too. They think

(01:14:19):
they're getting him too. I don't believe. I don't believe
getting somebody don't believe the Lakers are getting Kauhi. I
don't believe the Lakers are gonna get anybody that people
think they're gonna get. I don't be guys play. He's
getting somebody. He thinks he's gonna get a guy that
can help him win another title. So I think he's
still trying to win, but you know he's doing other things.

(01:14:39):
You know, Magic, We both know Magic Johnson. Magic was
into business during his career. Heah, he's made more, well
far more money in business than he did in basketball,
and he learned a lot of that during his basketball career.
So hey, man, just you you know you've been ripping
Brady and Belichick our show. Now it's Lebron. I know

(01:15:04):
who it'll be next. Kanye West has some strong words
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(01:16:11):
That was my favorite sitcom growing up, was it? Yeah?
I mean, you know, there were others that came after it,
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Fines was one of the coolest dudes on TV, no doubt,
leather jacket, all that people. People weren't too Fonzie, I mean.
And the thing is, Henry Winkler, who you know played him,

(01:16:33):
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(01:17:14):
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rob Shop Talk is our segment where we talk about
something outside of the world of sports. And for our
inaugural Shop Talk, because obviously our show started this week,
we only address you know, Kanye West. Now, they're rumors

(01:17:35):
been going on for a couple of weeks that Drake
had an affair with Kanye's wife, Kim Kardashian while they
were married, while they were while they were married, and
Kanye finally addressed them today. The fact that it's people
making rumors or thinking that my wife and you're not
saying nothing, and you're carrying it like that, I don't

(01:17:56):
sit well with my spirit. You know, if I had
a girlfriend from Chicago her name was Rhanita, and then
you was married to Rihanna, I wouldn't make no song
called re read. So when you're like, oh, I don't
know where it comes from, you too smart for that, bro.
You know where that comes from. Man? Look man, obviously,
I hope you know Drake didn't mess around with Kanye's wife.

(01:18:18):
But look when when I hear the rappers bragging about
they got all the women and they can get any
women they want, you know, taking dudes, girls and autists
and that, and that's kind of Drake and Kanye are
in that. You know, they're rapping about other things too,
but that's part of their thing. I really don't want
to hear you coming off complaining because that's your persona,

(01:18:42):
you know. And so I just think it's weak on
Kanye's part to go at Drake unless you're really gonna
go at him. But b and I don't think you're
really going at him. And the other part, Chris, is
that Kim has already come out publicly and say it's
not true, it never happened, So I don't understand why

(01:19:04):
Kanye would would even care past that. Let it go,
don't keep fending it if y'all. But it's still it's
so long. I always felt like, if if your girl
cheats on you, the person that's most than the most
than the wrong, because they both can be in the wrong,
but most in the wrong is your woman. That's the

(01:19:24):
one who you ever at dude, just doing what what
a lot of guys might do. But she should, you know,
committed to you, and so I get you. I'm with
you there, But I think Kanye's feelings are okay. My
wife came out and said it, but Drake hasn't said it,

(01:19:47):
so Joe doesn't have to say it. But but no,
I think he's thinking most people, though most people aren't
gonna believe it until unless they both come out like
this is hogwash. I ain't mess with her, that's my man.
I've always respected Kanye. He's a dope artist. I wouldn't
do that. I get it, I want to hear it.
But my thing, if I was in his position, you

(01:20:08):
need to step to the dude with strength. Don't come like, man,
you ain't say nothing. I wouldn't do this or that.
If you think he might have messed with her, then
you need to handle it. I'm I'm with you. I
just think it should be more about him and Kim,
and he should talk to you know. It's like the
people get mad because their boyfriend and girlfriends cheating, and

(01:20:32):
they get mad at the person that they're cheating with
rather than the person they're committed to It doesn't make
any sense, and Kim has said it never happened, and
if you believe it, then you should move on from it.
That they're both high profile names, right and no, stuff
always are circulated and you can't let that stuff cloud
what's really happening reality if it hasn't happened. Rob G

(01:20:54):
jumping here. What is Kanye and Drake's relationships supposed to?
Are they supposed to be cool friends or they're cool?
Like that? They were cool? Allegedly they were cool up
until that maybe about a month and a half ago,
two months ago when Push a T released that distract
Ain't at Drake where he revealed his illegitimate child. And
Drake believes that Kanye, who produced the Push a T album,

(01:21:18):
is the one who gave him that inside information. So
um team to have fallen apart from there. Yeah, yeah, Well,
like I said, man, your wife is the one you
should be most concerned about. But I understand because you know,
you don't want these rumors out there, and I think
he feels like until they both squash it and squash

(01:21:38):
it with some convincing arguments or or you know, statements,
it's gonna be out there. But That's the last thing
you want is people walking around thinking your wife was
fooling my spirit. But also, I mean some people won't
buy it anyway, even with the denial. So who are
you really who are you really convincing? Right? People believe

(01:21:59):
that it went down, will believe it, and the people
don't think so, won't think so. But in the rap world, man,
you gotta come stronger. You can't. Yeah, you don't see
will with my spirit? You gotta come stronger. I mean,
I'm just saying because yo, yo, you brag a dooshes
on the mic I couple. Well, it's not a pretty game.
Jetson Brown's duking it out. Seven possessions, seven punts, Jets

(01:22:22):
with the ball right now and so far to Rod
Taylor and Sam Darnold have combined to go four for
fourteen and twenty four yards passing. Jets and Browns scoreless
less than thirty seconds ago in the first quarter. You know,
all the Red Sox trying to clinch the Al East
third time. Maybe a charm. They failed to do it
the last two nights in the Bronx. Right now, the
Red Sox lead the Yankees for two. They're in the

(01:22:43):
bottom of the fourth, ending bottom six. In Toronto, the
Rays still aligned. They lead the Blue Jays three to two.
Bottom of the fifth. In Cleveland, a L Central champion
Indians trail the White Sox four two. Chicago with the lead.
Braves lead the Phillies five to three. Top of the fourth.
Mets with the three two lead at Washington, top seven.
Earlier today in Oakland, the A's out slug the Angels

(01:23:04):
twenty one to three. I'm Deb Carson, Yes we can.
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com for a free rate quote. And Rob, you're the
big Tyrod Taylor defender. Stop. I think they should be
playing Baker Mayfield right now. And I think the Browns players,
certainly their receivers feel the same way. Because your boy
is one for seven for two yards two yards us

(01:23:49):
because his house almost over. He's got two yards passing well.
But also the Jets have been getting to him. The
offensive line is bad. They've been all over Tyrod. They
have been Chris, be honest. Now, he hasn't really been
able to get him complete three percent of his passes
through the first two games. And I know they You're right,
they could be two and old if they had a kicker,

(01:24:12):
they would maybe if they had a better quarter And
who knows what Baker will be, but he's a rookie.
You give him time to develop. But you know, look,
their defense is legit okay, and they have their defense
has gotten eight turnovers for Tyride this year in two games,
five of them in the opponent's territory. Guess how many

(01:24:35):
points he's turned those eight turnovers into. Let me hear
Chris Brusso ten ten ten points, one touchdown, one field goal,
and the touchdown came when he got the ball on
the one yard line. He had to go one yard.
I'm sorry, Rob. I like him. He's a leader. I
watched him a hard knocks he's you know, engage, he's

(01:24:57):
a winner and all that. But he's just mediocre quarterback
and so I don't think he's good enough to see
he might be better than Baker right now, but your
future is Baker Mayfield. Let him play, Let him play.
He's going to him right he's going to play. I
just think at this point in the season they honestly

(01:25:19):
believe and the Jets are scored in Cleveland six nothing
on a run. But I do believe that in time
he will plays the first overall pick. They had to
believe in him year, he'll play this year, yeah, at
some point. But I don't think that they just out
of the box. It's a team that's won one game
in two years, and they made a lot of personnel moves,

(01:25:40):
and they believe that they had a good roster. I
do think that they're a good team on paper, and
they just weren't gonna throw away all of that and
just say, well, we'll just throw the kid in and
and and we're all right with him losing a going
oh in sixteen or one in fifteen. Again, I think
that they needed some respectability for the franchise. That's why

(01:26:01):
they went out and got Tyrod Taylor and decided we
need to win some football games and get us back
into that winning mold. Do you understand that part? No,
I get that that makes a little bit of sense.
But so you're saying once like it's clear they're not
gonna make the playoffs, Yes, but if my thing is
they weren't gonna make the playoffs anyway, even if Tyrod

(01:26:23):
Tyrode is his best self, you know, and and they
they're playing well, they probably win six seven games eight max.
Eight would be a great season. Wouldn't get you in
the playoffs though, But if you're thinking, look, if they
lose tonight, what is what is it do they have
to be? You know, oh, five and one, h two
and one, you know, one six and one? Like, what

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what do they have to be for you to say,
all right, let's throw in Baker, let's throw in the kid.
I think, I think at a point when you look
and just see if things are starting to go to
the other way and it's kind of obvious and nothing
is happening, and you lose, you lose this game Jets
at home. I agree with that it might be obvious.
But but before that, if coming into this game, when

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you look at where Cleveland, just be fair, Chris that
if this if they had a kicker who could made
a couple of field goals, right, not not fifty yard
field goals, regular field goals, they would be two and
oh coming into this game to play the Jets. That's
really the extra points, right, if he could have made
anytra points yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I agree they could.

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They could easily be too. I mean against two teams
that people think could have, you know, starting the season,
could have made the Super Bowl. No, no doubt about
the Steelers and the Saints. So I'm with you, but
the fact is robbed even if they were two and oh,
you can't say Tyride has played well, he's done what

(01:27:52):
he does? You know he hasn't turned it over. Oh
he just threw a box. See he just underthrew the receiver.
You're gonna wide open now you're gonna do with bomb
not you're gonna do play by play. Come on, I'm
just saying, like, what now he's one freight with two
yards at the start of the second quarter. Guy, his
receiver had him beat? Why just flat out beating? The

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under threw him? Gay the defensive back time to get it. Look,
let me do this eight seven seven ninety nine off Fox.
Are you with Chris that the time has come already? Yeah?
Give us a call. I know y'all with me? How
if you're with me? Eight seven seven nine nine six
sixty three sixty nine eight seven seven nine nine six,

(01:28:37):
sixty three sixty nine. Call us at the odd couple.
Let us know where you're at. But Rob, I'm just saying,
he's the future. Man, let him play. It's a different
it's a different NFL. It's not just no, I agree,
let him. You know, I don't believe it ready. Some
of them can come in and play well. I agree

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Chris of not playing people just because because the Jets
didn't do that. They could have played McCown. Right. We
know that account played a good year for the Jets
a year ago, and instead they said, this guy is
the future. He gives us a good chance to win.
And here are the Jets trying to win a second
road game, right, and when it would be big, This

(01:29:18):
would be a huge game because they would they would
already have See there's no there's no protection. Chris, you
just saw that play. Would you be hond I'm sorry,
but my right though? That sacked? I mean no, I mean, look,
they don't have they got other holes, There's no question
about it. But I'm just saying, let's see what Baker

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Mayfield can do. He's the number one pick. I would
get it if he was behind, you know, and a
really good quarterback. It doesn't even have to be a
historically great quarterback, but a really good quarterback. But um,
you know, look, I don't I don't doubt that we
could see him in the second half if this thing,
you know, if they far behind two touchdowns, three touchdowns,

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whom the stand just hit a grand slam in the
Bronx and the Yankees are leading the Red Sox six
to four? Is that with two outs? Yes, this is big.
This is seriously sweeping the Red Sox. Well, you kept
them from celebrating the division title on you on your

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home field, right right, and mentally you can say to yourselves, hey,
we got we we we can beat them when we're healthy. Right.
They beat us when we didn't have judge, they embarrassed us.
Now we're healthy and we just swept them. There's no
doubt about it. And Chris good mentality the playoffs, I
didn't mean it. Just jump in there, but that was
a big, two out grand slam. A relief pitcher comes in,

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it might have been the first pitch he saw, first
or second pitch, and standing with a home run the
right field, it is six to four Yankees in the
fourth thinning. All right, let's go. That's typical. Um, you know,
when when you're losing an argument, that's what you does.
Switched topics subjects. No doubt about it, all right, age seven,

(01:31:09):
seven ninety nine, Fox. A couple of people, Chris want
to chime in on the odd Couple, David in Iowa.
You're on Fox Sports Radio. It's the odd Couple and
what you what you got David, Well, I've just got
a concern with the fact that I'm I'm listening to
you guys talking about how used to get Baker Mayfield
into the into the game. I think it's a mistake.
He's yeah, he was the number one overall, but I

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think you need to keep him back so you can
build for the future. Keeping back the whole season, keep
back the whole season. Look what's going on, the kids,
the city that should be that shouldn't be your mother. Well, look,
we've seen great quarterback. He might come in and struggle
this year if he gets to play. But Peyton Manning

(01:31:52):
did that. Peyton Manning led the league in interception. I
think he at twenty eight as a rookie, you know,
so I don't expect him to go in there and play,
you know, lights out but I just think the guy
you got in there, you're not going anywhere, even if
Tyrode is great for himself. And so let's see what
the kid can do. And then next year you expect
him to come in. He's got a season under his belt,

(01:32:15):
and you know you expect him with that defense they have,
you got some good running backs, decent receivers. You know,
we'll see what you're add in offseason. Then maybe next
year you go in thinking playoffs that we got a
shot versus Well, let's see what the new kid, the
new quarterback can do. He sat out a year behind Tyrode.

(01:32:35):
Now let's see what Baker can do. I think it
it could slow down the process and the evaluation period
of Baker Mayfield and the Browns. Hey, let's go to
Ray in Vegas. You're on the odd couple on Fox
Sports Radio. What's up? Ray? Hey, what's up? Guys? I
think the whole point is moved because he's gonna be

(01:32:56):
a bust. It's not He's not meant for AFC North football.
You need a big, strong arm quarterback in the AC North.
There are no domes to protect weak arms. Wow, well, look,
I I thought I was not hiring on Baker Mayfield
coming into the draft, so he very well maybe a bust.

(01:33:19):
You know, I don't everybody's compared him to Russell Wilson.
Well he's not. Doesn't how to speed that Russell Wilson has,
you know, and you know he's got to get used to,
you know, Johnny Manzel, John Manzel right right, you know,
being under center. That wasn't something he did in college.
So I don't doubt that this the caller might be correct.

(01:33:43):
But let's see, that's what I'm saying. Let's see, because
you're gonna give him, You're gonna give him more than
a year anyway, and so why not start that evaluation
process now versus starting it next year and maybe wasting
a year year or two. You know that you you know,
another year that you don't have to waste, especially when

(01:34:05):
you got a good defense that could be a playoff
caliber defense. No, I got you. Hey, what about James
in Virginia? You're on the odd couple on Fox Sports Radio.
What you got James? Thank you for taking my call.
Gentleman Hill to the Redskins. Man, Hey, look, when you're
talking about quarterbacks, if you're gonna get the same level
out of a veteran from the rookie. You play the rookie,

(01:34:25):
especially if you draft one number one overall, and I
like to Rod Kelly, even coming from the Southern cities,
you know what I mean. But you got to throw
them out there and just see what it is. That's
the bottom line, man, because when you play, you play,
and you make you make moves. So going forward, man,
I hope you guys last because I've been in there
since day one. Man, have the rid with y'all the
whole time. So make it happen. Gentlemen, have a great night. Man,

(01:34:48):
outstanding point, great logic because you agree, agrees with you right,
just no, it just happens to be the truth. You
want to defend yourself the truth. According to Chris Broussard,
it's all good. All I know is uh and hey,
I get it. It's seven nothing jets and Tyrod's not

(01:35:10):
really playing uh that well that well he's playing that
what is he? One for nine now one for eighty
hasn't had any protection either. You gotta be honest with that.
The offensive twice, yeah, chased about four times. Hey, that's
his but that's his calling card. He's you know, he's mobile,

(01:35:30):
he runs. I'm just saying, man, come on, let's stick
with quarterbacks. Troy Aikman has a message for the millennial generation.
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(01:36:14):
at days. I didn't think it was funny. I just
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You know, it's so campy and it's pretty funny. Yeah yeah, yeah,
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saving you money down the road. Get in the zone
A zone. And the New York Jets just went ahead
fourteen old on the Cleveland Browns in the second quarter
and Isaiah Craws scored the touchdown and then did a
vulgar touchdown celebration where he used the ball to wipe

(01:37:17):
his bottom. He got down in the squad like he
was using the toilet, like it was told the way.
That's I think that. I guess that's what it was.
He got a flag. They threw a flag, and threw
a flag they should have I mean, and then he
picked up and then he picked up the flag and
used that the way. What does dude think? I mean,

(01:37:39):
he's trending. He's trending on Twitter because everybody saw it.
Now that's terrible. Now the NFL network didn't didn't show it.
I get I understand why, but it's too late. There's
nothing not today when the social media is as it is,
you can't that's gonna be a big story. And it
was bad, you know, O b J act like he

(01:37:59):
was urinating like a dog. Last year. This was even
worthy both bad, but this is even worse to me.
What are you thinking? I know, I know the Jets
are excited and and I just you know that kind
of stuff. They're kids there. I just think that's a
little over the top, like to like like it's just
it makes people wonder, what, dude, what is going on

(01:38:22):
in your mind? Right that you would that you would
use the ball of toilet paper? I just write, I
can't think of how many celebrations I'd have to think
of before I ever thought of doing that, right, I
don't think I got everything of doing that, even when
even when TiO would do the popcorn and the cell
phone and the plan, I'm nothing wrong with wrong, right nah?

(01:38:44):
The sharp pep, but not not not that nah nah. Well,
speaking of outrageous, Hey, we got one one call of sneaking.
Let's let's get this call the last call on the
Baker Mayfield. Let's do that, Allen and los Ange Angelist,
you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Alan?
What's up? Rob? How you I'm doing? Good? Man? What's happening? Man?

(01:39:08):
And not much? He Chris? How you doing? Rob? You
know I'm awfully happy for you? Man By the way
the next time. Wait minute, this is Allan Lee, famous
famous anchor man from Los Angele from Detroit who now
lives in Los Angeles. Of course, you know you just go, hey, man,
I gotta say that not only did we do that move,
but didn't he threw the ball to the stand right,

(01:39:29):
and so you know somebody got to have this man.
Yeah that that you're right, I forgot. That made it
even worse. Yeah that that's not good. That's right. Yeah,
that that so much. So don't tell me Alan you're
gonna call up and be on Chris's side after all that.
He's a smart man, Rob, Rob Listen, Now, I know
you're a Jets fan, right, I'm not a Jets fan.

(01:39:50):
I was growing up as a kid. Darnald. No, I love.
I love Sam Donald. I love watching him play. I do, okay,
I watch Sam Donald played us sequence. My son went
to school there. Rob, you owing sixteen the year before
you got this young stud that you drafted number one?
What are you eating on when you got nothing to
lose at this point? No, you do have something to

(01:40:10):
lose because they've only won one game in two years.
They can't just go al and throw another season away
and say, go owen owen ten This year with a
rookie quarterback learning, they got to kind of re establish
get people used to winning again. So how do you
do that? Yeah, but the Jets haven't won one in

(01:40:31):
the last two years though, Alan, that's the difference. I understand.
But I'm watching Tyrod Taylor play Rob. He's not even
close to being consistent. He's missing guys. I mean it
just it's there's a point. Now, let me ask you this.
At what point in the season you go and four
do you going? Five? When do you say, okay, it's
time to make that change. Then I'd say five or

(01:40:52):
six games, you take a look and see where you are.
But remember, Alan, with the field goal kicker, they would
have won two games if they would have made some
extra points in field goals. Would you at least acknowledge
that we lost him? Like you said, you're out of kicker?
All right, enough? Thanks enough? Rob is defending the indefensible.

(01:41:15):
So i'm i'm I I come in to save you, Rob.
I came in to save Allen was a legendary anchorman
on Fox two in Detroit for a long time. So yeah,
thanks Allen. Good call, smart call, very logical. Great take
by him. Oh stop On Twitter, Rob Joe Dbasi, a

(01:41:38):
radio personality in Buffalo, New York, tweeted out last night
that Ryan Fitzpatrick, being called fitz Magic in Tampa Bay,
has sixteen more passing touchdowns in his career than Hall
of Famer. And he put Hall of Famer in quotes
Troy Aikman in forty four less starts. The implication, which

(01:42:01):
is ludicrous, is that Ryan Fitzpatrick is better than Troy Aikman.
Aikman tweeted, what who cares? But Rob, this is some
millennial garbage. I'm glad you used that word because that's
exactly what it is. How in the world, let me

(01:42:22):
tell the millennial something. I assume Joe Debase is a
millennial and if he's not, come on, man, shame on you.
You cannot compare the statistics of today to the statistics
of yesterday. When it comes to NFL quarterbacks. I'm not
I'm gonna let you go into the winning argument Rockets.

(01:42:44):
I know you that's most important, But I'm just talking
about statistically, the quarterbacks throw the ball more. The rules
are so skewed toward the quarterbacks from the receivers not
being able to be touched at you know, off the
line of scrimmage, can't be you know, hit hard coming

(01:43:05):
across the middle. Qbs can't be tackled on the low below,
you know, on the knees. They can't be hit high.
You know. Running backs don't get the ball like they
used to. Like the rules are so different today. All
time great quarterbacks. When't you say John Elway, Joe Montana,

(01:43:26):
Troy Aikman. Certainly, Montana and Elway top ten quarterbacks of
all time, absolutely, and also the other they got one
four thousand yard season between them. You could say whatever
you want. He quarterbacked the dynasty that won three out
of four Super Bowls? Right, Hello? Is this on? I
mean seriously, Like that's the thing about millennials is like

(01:43:49):
they don't think winning is important. No matter what the
numbers are, winning is important. It's like the it's like
the Lebron Jordan thing. It's like they pool pull winning
six championships like six and old doesn't mean well, but
it doesn't matter. Lebron did this, Lebron did that, And
I'm like, they don't think winning matters the same and
you never pooh pooh winning because that's what the game

(01:44:11):
is about. I've said it a million times. Chris pro
Sports has a short menu wins and losses. That's all
that matters, right, no question. And we see this in
a lot of the sports nowadays. The NFL we talked
about with the quarterback numbers. I mean, you don't throw
for four thousand yards. You looked at his chump change

(01:44:33):
in the NFL today and like I said, alway through
for four thousand once. Joe Montana never threw for four
thousand yards in a season. Look at the NBA three
point shooting. One of the reasons you got a lot
of guys scoring huge scoring averages because in part because
the three point shot. Absolutely and Russell Westbrook just average

(01:44:57):
a triple double for two straight seasons, and that's great.
I mean, it's incredible that he did it. But there
are also changes in the game that have aided him
in that. I meant, the big gold didn't didn't have
a three point line when he average a triple double.
Think about that, right, And more three points shooting today

(01:45:19):
leads to longer rebounds, so perimeter guys can get more rebounds.
And the fact that the big men aren't played near
the basket like they used to be. The forwards, the
power forwards and centers, so they would soak up most
of the rebounds. Nowadays the big men are out on
the perimeter too, and on the perimeter the little guys

(01:45:42):
are gonna get the rebound more or beat the big
guys into the lane to grab a rebound because of
their quickness. So the league things have changed, the rules
have changed. So don't be silly and just look at
statistics and say, oh, these guys are better than the

(01:46:02):
guys used to be. Look at the stats, and that's
that whole prisoner of the moment. Everything that happened today
is better than anything that's ever happened in the past.
We don't need to see any videotape of Babe Ruth
right Chris to know that he was a great player,
right right. So people need to get off of that
and stop always looking at things and thinking that what

(01:46:23):
happened yesterday is the best. Larry Bird was like a
career thirty seven percent shooter from three, one of the
best shooters of all time, one of the top five
easy in my book, in a lot of people's books,
there were about fifty guys in the NBA last year
to shot over thirty seven percent from three. I mean,
but is every one of those guys a better shooter

(01:46:45):
than Larry Bird from three? No, So it's the game
has changed. So let's just stop it, and let's be
reasonable and use comments. Since Troy Aikman is a Hall
of Fame quarterback and deservedly so, do not put Ryan
Fitzpatrick in the same sentence with Troy Aikman. Why does

(01:47:07):
Hugh Jackson insist on keeping Baker Mayfield on the bench?
Fox Sports NFL J Glazer has the answer coming up next,
But first is Dab Carson to tell us what is trending. Well,
what is trending is Tyrod Taylor concussion. He is fine,
by the way, and in fact, they just picked up
another big first down. The Browns are driving, but the

(01:47:27):
Jets are leading her down in one at the two.
I formation, toss to CROLEL Clutton's left, he gets hit,
he's at the colne He's in. That's a Jet touchdown.
Another rushing touchdown for the old brown I'd say at Crowell.
He has both touchdowns on the evening, fourteen nothing lead
for the Jets over the Browns three thirty four to
go second quarter on the Jets Radio Network Tiger Woods

(01:47:49):
as a share of the lead after the first round
of the Tour Championship five under par shot of sixty
five today which included an eagle on the par five
eighteenth hold. He shares the lead with Ricky Fowler. Red
Sox can win the game tonight and clinch the Al East.
Gean Carlos Stanton, trying to stop that, though, hit a
grand slam, giving New York to lead their up six
to five on Boston bottom of the fifth inning, raised

(01:48:11):
Lee the Blue Jay's five two top seven in Toronto,
Indians trail the White Sox four two Chicago with the
lead top of the seventh. In Cleveland, Phillies and Braves
nodded at three apiece bottom of the fifth, the Nationals
trail the Mets four to New York top of the
seventh inning, and earlier today in Oakland, the A's outslid
the Angels twenty one to three. Thank you, dev great job.

(01:48:32):
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In our next guests, you see them every Sunday, Fox Sports,
NFL Inside. Jay Glazer not here yet, He'll be here
in a in a second, believe it. You know, I
go way back with Jay. I remember when Jay worked
at the New York Post. Chris, did you know that? Yeah,
I knew he was a New York reporter. He worked,
he worked at the New York Post, and I remember, Okay,

(01:49:17):
there we go. Yeah, you can follow him at on
Twitter at Jay Glazer as I'm sure many of you know. Jay,
Welcome to the Eye Couple. What's going on? How about
you guys yond couple? Because you gotta listen to our intro. Well,
it breaks it all down, Jay. You know Chris has

(01:49:39):
half baked ideas. So I gotta be here as the
voice of reason. Oh my god. If you're the voice
of reason, Oh my god. Well, Jay, I'm glad you
went there. Speaking of upside down. Look, I think it's
time throwing Baker Mayfield. What what do you think and
when do you think it happens. I thought it should

(01:50:01):
have happened before the start of the season. You know,
we look, the Browns are attended. We trained in our
MMA program for a month this off season, so we
got to see him up close throughout OTAs, and man,
he's just different. Baker is you have to have this um,
this competitive gene you know, behind your rip cage, and
he has it like it's the disease. He has that

(01:50:24):
competitive gene that you are just hoping that other players
have one tenth of. He's gonna he'll do whatever he
has to to really succeed. I think they should have
come out of the gates Baker, because you know, you know,
when you just look at the upside of what he
has compared to what Tyra Taylor has. Honestly, guys, I
don't think it's it's closed. And there there were plays
early on you know OTAs where Baker Mayfield's rolling out

(01:50:47):
and just the zippa, And I said on Fox, I said, honestly,
I've never seen anything like it, and I've I've seen
Aaron Rodgers roll out, so I should say I've never
seen anything like it from a rookie maybe, but man,
it's just the way he rolls in. Everybody else there
or saw what I saw. There's nothing like this Kevien.
He rolls out and he throws he throws this this
rope like it's nothing. His release. I mean, Baker Mayfield

(01:51:10):
is a very, very bright future in this league. What
about the other guy tonight, Sam Donald, who's off to
a nice start. You know, some people weren't some people
didn't think he was that guy makes too many turnovers
at USC, but he's jumped into the league. He had
a big road win in Detroit and the leading fourteen

(01:51:30):
to nothing night. What do you like about Sam Donald
so far? What I love about Sam is says the
offense he had it at USC is not a good offense.
So when Sam really rose the occasions when things broke
down around him. So at least you know guys like
you know, he's a sniper. He's out there in battle
and his gun doesn't work. He's gonna figure out a
way to make it work. And that's who you want.

(01:51:51):
And some of these guys, the one you come in
and you talk to him, they're all so programmed and
how they talk to you, it's hard to find, you know,
the real guy who's gonna be in there. M Darnold
is one of those guys when you go, you bring
him in, you talk to him. He's kind of perfect
and how he talks to you. So you want to
find really what, you know, you want to know what's
gonna happen. I know what's I don't care how this

(01:52:12):
guy's gonna run his forty in a real controlled environment
over the passage. He's gonna throw to his college receivers
in a very controlled environment. When the weather is perfect
and everything is great, Who cares about that? You know?
I want to know when it's you know, when Jared
Goff had his workout for the Rams, it was pouring
rain and they wanted to hold it off. He's like, no,
let's have it when it's raining. Let me show you

(01:52:34):
guys what I'm like when it's just awful conditions. And
Sam Darnold was really at his best and really bad
conditions there at USC and obviously that weather condition, but
just a bad offense, bad scheme, and he made a
lot of you know, chicken salad at a you know what, Jay,
what is going on in Pittsburgh? Has Mike Tomlin lost

(01:52:55):
that locker room now? It's the same locker room they've
had it. Really, it's the same locker room. I think,
So does he need to be you know, we've heard
James Harrison, Terry Brats or others say he needs to
be more discipline, Like, like, what do you think is
what's the problem? Narrative? Not just the problem they've They've
always won. I don't think it's a tough problem at all.

(01:53:18):
I mean they've always won, and they've won with very
big personalities, and they've won with guys who are man
An Tonio Brown, he is his own universe. Ben Roethlisberger,
he's his own universe. Levian Bell is his own universe.
James Harrison, these aren't guys who are just kind of
big personalities. They are out there right and big, big
person out and big whenever something happens with them. It's

(01:53:40):
not a little thing, right, And yet they've all been
able to be successful for all these years. Um, But
I think, yes, at this point, it's I think the
soap opera. It's kind of just gotten. It's run his
course right now. But he's pulled it together so many
times in the past, and you know, Ben is really

(01:54:01):
not playing well. They need their quarterback to play well.
And I can't look at them go out, not because
they have bella. I mean that's you know, they're just
they're just overall they're not playing well. Um, And I'm
not gonna say that all of a sudden after you know,
Mike being their eleven years, whenever it is all of
a sudden, the guy can't coach, just not what happens.
But I do think certain things are gonna have to
change that accountability. They're gonna have to look inside themselves.

(01:54:23):
Then's gonna be look inside themselves. They're all gonna be
look inside themselves. You're listening to the odd couple on
Fox Sports Radio. I guess is Jay Glazer of course
Fox Sports NFL Insider. If you want to get him
at Twitter, it's at Jay Glazer and Jay I would say,
I'm going out on the limb. I believe the Lions
are going to upset the Patriots and beat them. And

(01:54:45):
the Lions are desperate team. They need to win. Otherwise, Jay,
this season's over. There is a whole death Braces thing. Yes,
that's like, that's like Kay, the girls. The dude the
prom is so desperate by the girl just because he's
desperate doesn't mean the hottest girl at the problem's gonna
go down. No, but but all but also desperation and
the Patriots defense. I saw Blake Bortles the carve up

(01:55:05):
that defense. I think Matt Stafford's going to be able
to do the same. I think the Lions is kind
of like the same old Lions, and it's until they
proved otherwise I don't I don't see why I would
believe in them. And look, here's the thing. Bill Belichick
knows everything about Matt Patricia, but Matt Patricia does not
know everything about Bill Belichick. It's the other way around.

(01:55:28):
It's not when you're the head coach you know everything
about everybody. When you're a coordinator, you're still you know,
you're just kind of kept in your bubble over there,
and you want to be kept in your bubble. You
don't want to know everything when you're a head coach.
It's so fun. I was just doing an interview with
this morning with John Lynch for for The Athletic and
we were talking about just the role of the GM.

(01:55:49):
He's like, when you're a GM, you find out about
everything about everybody. Things I don't want to know about
people like these people I think are so wonderful. You
find out everything about these people and it's like, man,
it takes away you're facing and these people. You think
you're incredible. When you're the head coach, you know everything.

(01:56:10):
When you're a coordinator, you're really kind of you're kept
away from it. Jay the Houston Texans owing to disappointing start,
and Watson has been disappointed. You know last year he
was great till he got hurt. Is this just he
is not as good as we thought the league's figured
him mouth or just a slow start. No, I think

(01:56:33):
it's slow star. I think that kid is. He's also
the features league. He is who you kind of want
leading your prayer fervors, leading your team, Mary and your daughter.
He is. He is a full package. He gets it
and you know, I think that Um, I don't know
what it is. If there's something that he's something about,
it's just something he just doesn't feel. You know, when
you're at that position, it's kind of hard to be

(01:56:56):
got to be a hundred percent um in how you
process things with you know, if you if you're holding
back because of an injury a little bit, it's gonna
hurt your entire production. So I don't know, I can't
really figure out, you know, why they're struggling the way
there are defensively too, they just have about been playing.
Well it comes all right. We appreciate you, Jay, thank you,

(01:57:19):
great job. Man. So if I come on, if you
guys an odd couple and I come on, what kind
of trio are we? We're the oddest trio because we
would all be up. I want to say the three Stooges,
that might be it. There you go, there we go. Hey, Ja,
guys know y'all are normal compared to me. Hey Jay,
you know you grew up in New York. You watch
The Odd Couple on Channel eleven, your whole life going

(01:57:42):
all did, yes and yes, indeed, no doubt. All right, Jay,
thanks a lot, man. We'll see Sunday on TV. That's us. Well,
we got some words of wisdom for John Gruden. That's next.
It's the Odd Couple. Fox Sports Radio. Fox Sports Radio
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(01:58:25):
fifteen percent or more on your car instoants and Rob,
we're ending a theme song Thursday with this is one
of the best sitcoms ever cheers, no doubt about it,
NBC that had a lot of great shows on Thursday
night for MBC, but and also a great theme song,
no doubt about it. Everybody knows the words. It's a

(01:58:45):
great t was awesome. That was a that's a great
way to end it to our man, DJ Alex ty
shirt on the boards. Uh, Rob, And bad news for you,
Baker Mayfield. You know, well, let me be fair, Tyrod
Taylor got injured. Is it a concussion they're checking for

(01:59:08):
but they're going through or knee or going through concussion protocol. Yeah,
so we we don't want anybody getting hurt, obviously, but
never Obviously, Baker Mayfield had to go in the game,
and he just marched the Browns down the field and
put their first points on the board with a field goal.
Oh yeah, oh, they got a big field goal. I

(01:59:29):
was gonna try to be I was gonna try to
soft pedal it for you to be nice, but now
you got an attitude. So let me just let me
just read some stats, all right. Tyrod Taylor was four
for fourteen for nineteen yards in a quarter and one
in three quarters worth of football, almost two halves. Baker

(01:59:51):
Mayfield has one possession, three for four for not more
yards than Tyrode, not even twice as many yards. It's Tyrode,
but almost three times as many yards as ty Rode
through four but the Jets forty seven yards. But the
Jets are playing prevent. They just don't want to score

(02:00:13):
behind them. They're gonna let them throw the football in
front of them. That's what's prevent. Chris, come on now,
ever whatever whatever I mean, come on, Rob. You know
it's Baker, the Baker Mayfield era. Whatever becomes of it.
I'm not saying it's gonna be a superstar, I don't know,
but whatever it's gonna become a Baker Mayfield. It is

(02:00:36):
beginning right now. And he's got to play well enough
where it's like, you know what, we're gonna stick with
the young kids. You know what football is about, the
next man up. Guys get hurt, you know, come out
of games. If he can come in and play well
in the second half, then who knows, maybe maybe he
will be able to stay in there. But it's not

(02:00:56):
a guarantee, it's not automatic. So they'll go through the protocol.
They'll see what's going on with Tyrod. If he can't
come in because of the concussion, then Baker Mayfield will
play and they'll see how well he does. I'm not
against Baker playing. You got perseverance, I give you that.
And we should say that it is quite an achievement
that the Browns actually got a field goal, because we

(02:01:18):
know what happened. And this is, you know, in fairness
to your boy, Tyrod. You know, some field goals, some
extra points, they could be two and oh. But also
even that field goal that was made was was just
inside say the upright? Did you see how close right
it was? You know? And that wasn't Zane Gonzalez who

(02:01:38):
they cut after last week. He missed two extra points,
miss field goals, two field goals too. But man, I
mean I can forgive you for missing a field goal.
Red Sox tied the game with a home run. Two
you missed two Ransox tied it, Yeah, tied it with
a home run Jackie Bradley. It's six six in the
top of the seven. So I just want to get

(02:01:59):
that square out to you. Gonna be a good one.
Gonna be a good one. But I'm interested in this game.
I've been interested in it, but now I'm really intrigued
to see what happens with Now you're gonna have these
two rookies going at it, the two top rookie quarterbacks
in the draft going at it. So, uh, what were
we we were getting that? Um, we were going to

(02:02:21):
get to Uh John Gruden? John Gruden? Is he still
on TV? And which one is? That's where I'm winning?
You want to do we have that? That sounds from Gruden?
Quick team? Why his team? Just man, they just don't
have a pass wrest. I don't know what's going on.
That was supposed to be the same we don't have.

(02:02:42):
He obviously said it very quietly. It's hard to find
a great one. It's hard to find a good one.
It's hard to find one. You just said it. You know,
college football now they're they're not really dropping back to
pass and throwing footballs anymore. They're throwing later roles when
they're throwing bubble screens and they're running read options. So
you got to train these guys. It takes a little
bit of time to learn how to rush the pastor

(02:03:05):
we've got some guys that are in that process right now.
Stop it. You had what probably the best pass rusher
in the league, or certainly right up there, I grele
O Mac come on, man, I mean, look, we worked

(02:03:25):
with John at our past network, our previous employer. I
like him. He was great on TV. But this is ridiculous.
It's ridiculous. I don't get it. Friend, I agree, it
just seems weird. I think you just should just stop
talking about it. Just acknowledge it. Accepted. Our past rusher
is bad and we gave up one of the best

(02:03:45):
guys in the game, and we have to live with it.
That's it, And then nobody will argue with you if
you make that. If you make that statement, yeah, but
you're acting like just man, I wish we could find
a pass rusher. My goodness. They don't grow on trees.
You know, well you had one, and let me just
give you a few numbers. Khalil Max played six quarters

(02:04:05):
this year. The Raiders have played eight. Obviously, he's got
two sacks, an interception, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery
of TV. Much better than the Raiders defense. I couple
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