July 18, 2024 • 41 mins
Chris and Rob discuss whether LeBron James or Tom Brady should be viewed as the greater athlete of the 21st century, tell us if individual sport athletes like Michael Phelps or Tiger Woods deserve more credit for their success than team athletes like LeBron or Brady and tell us how Russell Westbrook can help the Denver Nuggets.
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All right, Rob, let's go here.
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ESPN, as you may know, did a they were doing,
you know, ranking the best one hundred of the top
one hundred summertime.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It must be summing, yes.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yes, that's when these things come up when when there's
a not as much going on in the sports world.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Only in w NBA. I guess that's all it's going
on in summer league.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
As I'm prepared to watch Alex Sar try to rebound
from that oh for fifteen outing rop.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
If I'm the coach, the first play goes to him
in the paint, and he scored the first basket.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Of the game.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I like it to go to him in the paint, yes,
because he's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Not serious, like that's my play, like I used to
love when Larry Brown came to the Pistons.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Chris, I don't know if you remember this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Remember Ben Wallace felt like he wasn't a part of
the offense. Remember that the first play, the first basket
of every game, or at least basket attempt went to
Ben Wallace.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
They just fed the free game every game, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That was because they were like, we want Ben to
do all this other stuff, right, so.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We're gonna like boom that the first play. I thought
it was smart.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Now it is smart, and they did not do that
the Wizards. So okay, no, actually he cuts across the middle,
but he passed it out for three.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He gets an assist, so okay, he got a touch.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
But anyway, ESPN rob it did their list of the
best one hundred athletes of the twenty first century, and
here's the top ten.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'll read it backwards forwards.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Number ten Kobe Bryant, number nine, Usain Bolt, eight, Tiger
Woods seven, Simone Biles six, Roger Federer five, Tom Brady four,
Lebron James, three, Line Messi, two Serena Williams and one
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Michael Phelps. Now this is important, rob Their voters were
from around the globe, it was not just American, and
you can kind of see I mean, obviously Phelps with
the Olympic accomplishments, Serena Williams in a global sport in tennis,
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and Lionel Messier Messi in the most important, you know,
the biggest sport worldwide being soccer. So I think that
has something to do with it. It's hard to I think,
and we'll get into this more later. I think the
only way to really do something like this where you're
crossing so many sports is if you're not going to
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take like the importance of the sports and not to
belittle any sports. But I guess I should maybe say
the popularity of the sport. Then you almost just got
to go by who was the most dominant in their sport.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
But like I said, we'll get into that later.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
But what I want to ask you about because Rob,
as you may recall, a few years ago, we hear
Fox Sports Radio did our own We did the top
twenty Athletes of the twenty first century or that we
called it, Who's the Greatest Athlete of the two thousands,
and all of our personalities here at Fox Sports Radio
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made did our votes.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I don't even remember that. I do, I kind of
remember it, but I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
So here was our top five and it's definitely different
from ESPNS. We had Serena Williams five, Michael Phelps four,
Tiger Woods three, Lebron James two, Tom Brady one. So
they had Brady, they had Lebron ahead of Brady. We
had Brady ahead of Lebron. This is what I want
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to ask you. Let's focus on those two. Who would
you have higher? Whether they're number one or whatever, But
who would you have higher? Since they're both in team sports?
Between Brady and Lebron?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Are you ready? Don't faint Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I thought you might go there, it's Lebron James Chris
only from one standpoint, he's the all time leading scorer
in the NBA. That's happened most recently. He's got the championships.
We already know that. But that's a huge milestone for
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somebody in their career to be the all time leading
scorer in the sport. And I think that's why he's
ahead of Brady, even though Brady's won more championships over Lebron.
And I do think that that's what separates them because
the you know the titles, what is it four to
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seven or whatever it is, But Brady didn't win all
of those in the right when did Brady win?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He did win them all in the two thousands. In
the two thousands was the first one, is what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
The twenty Okay, yeah, yeah, but I would go with
I would go with Lebron ahead of Brady and neck
for that reason, because of all the numbers, all the
stuff that he's done. He's an all time greatest, greatest
Tom Brady is he doesn't have any kind of thing
the hang has had on like that. I don't think,
oh gosh, really yeah, like no, like is he the
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old Timpson, Like, aren't there other people have more passing
yards or no, he did have the penfing yard. No,
though I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Think your touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
He got touchdowns, he's got yards, he's got completions.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Look, it pays me to say this because.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I would love to pick Lebron. I gotta put Brady
ahead of.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Me because to the point we just made, Tom Brady
is first all time in wins, Pro Bowls, super Bowl MVPs, completions,
passing yards, and passing touchdowns and then of course the
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biggest to me, and obviously both are team sports, but
his seven super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Is more.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Than any franchise. Like that is what is a killer?
Like wait a minute, I mean this guy by himself.
I mean, you know, as just his individual wins. I
don't mean he did it by himself without a team.
But he's won more Super Bowls by himself, and is
what was twenty three year career whatever it was, twenty
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four years? I think he won more Super Bowls than
the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys, the San Francisco forty
nine ers, all these great franchises. He won more than
all of them. And so I gotta give it to him.
I mean, and this isn't This is honestly neither here
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nor there if you're thinking of athlete, and that's why
I think you really can't in a poll like this.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
But the way we typically think.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Of somebody athletic right speed, size, strength, that type of thing.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Obviously you pick Lebron over Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
But it's something like this where I think you just
have to look at how much a certain individual dominated
their sport. Because we're talking about different sports. Some of
them are solo, some of them are team. I have
to put Brady ahead. I just think I think the
way he dominated football was just more so than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
But I think what you just said and that's the
reason too. And as you could see, most of the
players that are above all individual sport players the top four. Yeah,
but football is more than just a quarterback and more
than just.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
As well as Brady did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Where Lebron has a bigger impact because there's fewer players,
and during his heyday or during his run, he had
more impact on the game than Brady.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Brady as well as he played.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
If the defense didn't do this, or the defense did
that or didn't, it could affect Brady, whereas I think
Lebron had had a bigger impact, not as much now,
Qus we talk about it all the time, the impact
on winning, But I think that might be the reason why.
Also Lebron gets a nod because you're talking about five
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players compared to twenty two players.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, I do think a basketball player can have more
impact on the game because he plays both sides, the
offense and defense.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They're fewer players.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
But I would argue, I think the position in football
that comes closest to having the impact on the game
is quarterback. I mean quarterback is just I mean you're
touching the ball literally at least every offensive play for
your team. And I think, like, while Lebron had an
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outsized impact on the game when it came to winning
his championship, like he's three of them or two of
them came with you know, a super stacked team in Miami,
and then even Cleveland was obviously a big three because
Kevin Love was a superstar before joining the Cavs, and
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obviously Kyrie Irving and then La not as much, but
you did still have an Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So I don't think we can, like.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
If you want to say well, Brady's defense, which it was,
was great and you know, really impactful in a lot
of those wins. I would say the same thing for Lebron,
whether it was Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh or Kyrie
Irving or Kevin not really Kevin Love. He didn't do
as much in the finals, in the playoffs in those
runs and Anthony Davis. So I think that that, you know,
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it's not like Lebron just did it by himself, and
obviously Brady didn't either, But I just think a guy
that won more Super Bowls than any other team in
the sport, I just I gotta go with him. And then,
like we said, we looked at all the individual records
that he has as well.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But this will be interesting, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, yeah, I just think that there's so fewer players
in basketball compared to football. Brady can play well, the
kicker doesn't make a kick, you know, like there's so
many other arms and elements that it's hard. And I
know you count quarterbacks and they have Super Bowls, but
there's so many more things that are involved. It's just
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like we talk about in baseball all the time, Barry
Bonds getting five hundred in the postseason, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
If the closer can't close out the game, you ain't
winning the World Series.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It doesn't matter what baseball. I think is the least
impact of can't.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
There's nothing you can do right, there's nothing you can
do if so, I think that that might have something
to it.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
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This is an interesting one.
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Who would you list higher or as the top of
the better athlete in the twenty first century? Lebron James
or Tom Brady? I had Brady Hire, Rob had Lebron Hire.
What are your thoughts?
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All right? Q in Arizona. You're on the Odd Couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Cute?
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Hey, what's happening?
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Fellows up?
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Thank you?
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I gotta drive from work to home for hours or so.
It's good to you know, listen to make the drive
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But anyway, thank you though, thank you. That's a good thing.
Speaker 10 (15:49):
Yes, yeah, for sure. Well Parker, really quick. I saw
a stephen A show with you on there. You're talking
about baseball, my favorite sport.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Man.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I enjoyed that interview.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Man thank you, Thank you very much, appreciate that. Yep,
did we lose him? Yeah? Is he gone? That's all
he had to say. I guess that's all he had
to say. All right, go ahead. Oh wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's okay, Andre in Massachusetts. You're in the I couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Andre, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Thanks for taking the call. This is a tough one,
but I have to go with Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
On this.
Speaker 11 (16:29):
It was tugging at my heart because athletically, it's clear
there's no distinction there that Lebron James is an athletics
scene and Tom Brady lacks those five stars, those elite athletics.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The Patriots cheating can't bother you at all, or though
I'm just curious.
Speaker 11 (16:47):
Good point point taking. No, it doesn't because you said
Patriots written March Patriots.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, I'm just asking. I'm just asking, that's all.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
Yeah, okay. And you know with deflate gate, you know,
if we're lacking a couple whatever the terminology is terms
of pressure of the football, the fact of the matter
is this, there was two runs of greatness for Tom Brady.
Two all right and Lebron James. Yes, it's Super Bowls
Brady seven Lebron championships in four and Brady did get
the championship with Tampa Bay after coming from the Patriots.
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But there was like a ten year gap in between
dynasts for the Pacers and then Tom Brady in the
back half of his career returned with a vengeance. We
know the Lakers are not seriously competing for championships. The
Lakers are about playing tournament on three. The Lakers are
about being sensational and Lebron playing with his son and
selling tickets and then losing in the first round. Okay,
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But Brady over the course of his career, he was
just more consistent in terms of winning big games. He
was not supposed to win that Super Bowl against Patrick Mahomes.
Guess what, pat Pat Mahomes had to wait his term.
Brady had to get that next get that next ring.
And so it's a tough call. I'm a huge supporter
of Lebron in terms of what he means, his brand,
his business, IQ, social justice, Thomas Patrick, Edward Brady Junior
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has to get the nod.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Thanks taking the call, all right, appreciate it. How about
Jaron in Utah. You're on the Fox Sports Raito. What's up, buddy,
how are you?
Speaker 11 (18:09):
I'm really fine, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
And that's man.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
I just how's it going?
Speaker 11 (18:15):
A longtime listener? I love the show.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I just wanted to speak to Chris's point about how
Tom Brady has more championships than several of the organic.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Several everyone, or at least at these Super Bowls.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
He did it in twenty three years, but some of
these teams have been trying for six plus years, so
it's even more impressive that he did it in a
shorter time span.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Thank you taking my call, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, thank you. Jared from Utah. We appreciate it. Uncle Bill,
Uncle Bill and Toledo. Uncle Bill was on what was
that show, Chris, Uncle Bill and Jody and Buffy Family Affair?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There we go?
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Oh yeah, uh, uncle Deal, Uncle Dell?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh, uncle Dell? Sorry about that? What's up?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Yeah? Yeah, oh yo, check this out. I'm going with
Tom Brady. Tom Brady, he he came in the league
and became the man. Lebron already came in the league
as the man. He did what was expected. Tom Brady
did what nobody expected him to do. He came in,
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he was what drapped it in what the.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
A six round? Sixth round?
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Yeah? Yeah, like what real late, you know? And and
and he became the man. And he won one and
left and put his and put his middle finger up
to everybody. So all his critics everything, Lebron is still
out here trying to prove stuff. He can't even he
can't even do anything nowhere close nearing what Tom Brady
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is going right now. So yeah, Tom Brady, he gets denied.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
All right, Uncle Dell, Thank you Jay in Kansas City.
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
What's up Jay?
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Oh my goodness, thanks guys for taking the call. Hey,
really quick before I tell you that, Hey, Roberts wanted
to give you your flowers. What you're doing with baseball
and minorities on the writing side and getting more folks
interested in more specifically more minorities covering baseball. Me and
my buddies, I'm a young brother. We used to play
any bounce with the stick and the ball. Look up
to you know those guys, you know, Bill Madlock, Dave Parker,
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Stars you all those guys, And it's gone away, but
hopefully with what you're doing and getting more people to
cover games, maybe you know, some of us young brothers
you know, can get out, you know, I'm younger than
me now, but can get out and play the game,
so they can be covered by more minorities. So thank
you so much for that.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That means, that means a lot to me. You know
that that means a lot. Go ahead, what's appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
I would say, you know, you had just touched on it.
I would say Lebron James because of the you know,
because of the cheating side of it, you know, and
I know you you you spoke on I'm not quite
often during that time and wasn't afraid to step into
that space. And but I just think you can't take away,
you know, the spygate and all the cheating and everything.
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Lebron James, you know has been out there, front stage,
front and center for all these years. And that's my
reason why. I mean, the cheating aspect, you know how
that hit b You know, Barry Bonds. I'm a big
Barry Bonds guy. When I was living in Pittsburgh, he
was our guy. But he can't even get in the
Hall of Fame. Now because the cheating and so the
cheating side of it is well documented. That's why I'm
going with Lebron James Brother Brussard, keep doing what you do.
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Rob Parker, thanks so much for doing what you do
in the community as well. And I'm keep listening here
from Kansas City down on eighteenth and Vine or the
Negro League Hall.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Now, I know why you saying Lebron, because you're eventually
gonna have Mahomes as the goat, which is cool with me.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But no, thank you man, good appreciate that. Yes, thank
you from Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
All right, it is the a couple, Chris and Rob.
We're gonna talk a little bit more about this top ten.
But first our man Martin Weiss in with the update.
Speaker 12 (22:08):
My wife got two summer league games going right now,
so that just goes to show you how much live
sports we have.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The one of note, we're waiting with baited breath for
your latest WNBA update.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
Hey, they're on break. They're on break until August fifteenth. Now,
much to this chagrin of Rob Parker, I'm sure he
couldn't wait to miss it. The Sacramento Kings, Washington Wizards
right now, twenty three to seventeen, Sacramento, with the lead.
The story Alex sar Oh for two. So far from
the floor, So that's kind of what I'm on this
star watch. Will he score today? Let's see?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Also he needs to get closer to the bat here
he is trying to drive. Oh gosh.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Just so that's a live live looking at how it's
going right, Oh gosh. The Clippers trading guard Westbrook a
second round, picking cash to the Jazz and assign the
trade for Chris Dunn. Westbrook expected to agree to a
contract buyout with Utah and eventually signed with the Nuggets.
Little note that's the second time that Westbrook has been
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bought bought out by the Utah Jazz. Go figure and
at the Open, Daniel Brown is six under. He's in
the lead, Shane Lowry five under, Zolf Xander choufle A
two under, Brooks Kopka and Scottie Scheffler both tied at
one under, Tiger Woods eight over, Bryson De'shambeau five over,
and Roy McElroy seven over. At the end of the
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first round, the Dolphins places linebacker Bradley Chubb and Jalen
Phillips on the pup list.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
St.
Speaker 12 (23:40):
Petersburg City Council has approved plans for the Ray's new
one point three billion dollar stadium. They'll have thirty thousand
seats and a fixed roof, scheduled to be ready for
opening day twenty twenty eight. The University of Alabama plans
to honor former head coach Nick Saban by naming its
football playing field for him at Bryan Denny Stadium. And
the Jacksonville Jaguars sued Amid Petel. He's a staffer who
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stole twenty two million dollars from the team in a
three and a half year period to playoff gambling debts
and fund the life of Luxury. He's gotten sued for
a set of sixty six point six million dollars in
damages in a Florida state court. And I just know
if I ever got sued for even six million dollars,
I would just change my name and move to Russia,
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because there's no way I'm making that back, Robin Chris
back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
All right, thank you, Martin Weiss.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
We're live from the tiereck dot Com studios, and Rob
maybe you answered this earlier when you talked about you
know a guy on the basketball court has a little
more impact on the game than on the football field.
But we mentioned that the top two athletes in ESPN's
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Best one hundred Athletes of the twenty first Century were
both in individual sports, Michael Phelps, the great swimmer at
number one, and Serena Williams, the great tennis player at
number two. So do you think that athletes in individual
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sports because it is all on them? Should, you know,
kind of get a nod over guys that play team sports?
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I do, because it is all on you, Chris, Like
it just is. There's nobody to help you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Maybe you're having a down, a bad day, you know,
or something, and your team can still win even if
you're not on par. And those are some incredible swimming
as you know, Chris, is probably the best exercise or
thing you could do with your body, you know, in
the water and endurance and what it takes. And I
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don't know where you were a tennis player, Chris at
all or no.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Not like Oregon, not like real to But I mean
I played, you know, I played a good amount with
my parents and my brother growing up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But when I got the Cincinnati the baseball writers who
were covering the team. Chris were tennis players, so they
weren't golfers. So they taught me how to play tennis
in spring training, and we carried our tennis equipment with
us every step of the way, you know, during the
red season, and we would start every day playing tennis
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and then we'd have lunch, go back, shower up, you know,
and then head to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That was like what I did.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So at one point I got so caught up in tennis.
I played tennis every day for two years.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Every day. I was in great shape, you know what
I mean. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
If friends came to visit me, they had to bring
their tennis racket, like it was an obsession.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I know how hard that game is. You know
that it is really really a hard game to play.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And so I think that is why the individuals do
get a nod over the team players, believe.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
It or not.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I actually took tennis in college, did you really did you?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
My senior year and I you know, I had most
of my credits and so I took tennis was a
credit course.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So what was that it was? Maybe it was a
credit and you're bragging about that. I really busted my
butt the first three years.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
So no, I took tennis my senior year, bowling, oh
my god, Christian Bowl it might have been my junior year,
and flag football one year.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
I think parents, poor parents, all the money they paid.
It worked out, It worked out. No, But yes, tennis
is a fun sport.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Now I'm not saying the greatest athlete might not be
a guy in an individual sport. But I do not
give them, you know, grade them on a curve if
you will. I don't give them a little extra credit
because they play an individual sport.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You are right, it's all on you.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
But I still, I mean, I just when I'm looking
at if I have to, you know, put together a.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
List of best athletes. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
I'm not automatically putting Muhammad Ali above Michael Jordan because
he played, you know, or was in a solo sport.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I didn't say automatically. I'm just no. But but you know,
I'm not even giving him a little extra extra credit.
And it's hard. A list like this is very difficult.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
And it's interesting, rob because you see the difference in
the Fox Sports list that we did a few years
ago and the ESPN list, we had two team sports
as the number one guys, which was Brady and Lebron,
and they had two individual sport guys at number one.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So you see the difference right there.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
We had Tiger third, obviously an individu were our three,
four five Tiger, Michael Phelps and Serena were individual sports.
But yeah, something like this is very difficult because to
your point, you do have those that are doing it
all by themselves. You have those that are doing it
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as a part of a team. You have some sports
that are you know, for again what we consider athletic running, jumping, speed, strength, power. Uh,
some sports demand more in those ways than others, like
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obviously Tiger woods and golf. I mean there's always been
a debate with the golf is it a sport or
is it a game? And so you know, you bring
in you could even put all the racing in there.
So I just think it's very difficult for number reason.
I really don't I know it takes score, did you
call it? I know they put it in.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sport because there's a competition. I call it a competition
like like arm wrestling or you know, like a competition.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You wouldn't call arm wrestling the sport, not like like
like that takes strength.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean, right, But I'm just saying I think even
in in in auto racing, Chris, if you have a
geloppie and you have to know how you're not winning,
like it's about the car you have and then you know,
trying to stay out of danger and whatnot, and you're
just doing this like like like literally.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't think it's easy.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I think you and I'm not saying it's easy too,
But when you say you're just doing this, just doing this,
I meant that big, Chris, I mean, you know, like
you're dangerous. I mean, I hear you though, but I
just I certainly wouldn't call it a game. So if
you want to say a competition, a competition, what I
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would call it. Yeah, if I'm thinking, I think golf
is more of a game than a sport. And here's
why I say that, Rob, Because when you can take
a seventy year old man who may not be in
very good shape and he can wipe the floor with
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a twenty five year old superstar athlete in the prime
of his career, to me, that's not a sport.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's a game because it has nothing to do in
that in many.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Instances, I'm not saying there aren't golfers who are great athletes,
but or who aren't great athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think there are or who are There are many
golfers who are great athletes.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
But you can actually take an old man who you know,
really struggles somewhat physically and it's not in great shape,
and he can demolish a star NBA player who just
isn't very good at golf and that or football player.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
For that matter, or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
And so to me, I view golf as a game,
and golf is, as you know, very mental as well.
You know, it's like chess to some degree, and that
is very mental. So I would call golf more of
a game all the race and is interesting. Like I said,
I certainly wouldn't call it a game competition if we
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if we allow that to be a category, I guess
that's fair, but.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
You know it's it's but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I don't give the individual extra points just because it's
an individual sport.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But you know, you are right.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
That's why we like when we talked with Sean Marrion Merriman,
I should say a couple of weeks ago Rob about fighting.
I mean, when you step in that ring or that octagon,
it is owed. It is you by yourself, and no
matter what goes through your head, you don't have it
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that night.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
This dude is stronger than you, he's better than you.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Whatever, you have to deal with it, and everybody's looking
at you. You can't look at your teammate. You can't,
you know, just start passing the ball or whatever.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
So I.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
There is some merit to what you're saying, but I
just don't in a list like this, I would not
give somebody extra credit for you.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm not saying that they should automatically, that nobody on
a team sport should be ahead of anybody who's played.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It just depends on what you were able to accomplish.
So I'm not in that camp.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
But I do understand why Sabena or you know, a
Phelps is looked at that way because there's no help.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, it's so and again that's why what makes a
list like this so interesting. You also bringing to the
ROB factors like what is perceived to be a more
difficult sport, right, or what sport is perceived to take
more quote unquote athleticism, what sports are more popular. I mean,
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I think for some voters that even even if only subconsciously,
can become a factor.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
You know, I'm sure with me, I probably do subconsciously
give a little extra credit to football and basketball and
baseball players just because those are the most popular sports
in our country. But I really, you know, I think
you saying Bolt is a guy that I would rank
(34:47):
higher than ninth for what he did. I mean, he
puts so much distance between himself and every other person
that had ever won run the one hundred meters. It's
just like the gap between him and the second fastest
player man ever in one hundred meters is just ridiculous.
(35:11):
They've closed it a little bit now, but it's still
a nice gap. And I think he could have he
could have easily been higher.
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You guys should know this one based off of topical events.
Topical events. I do know it, but I can't picture
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Speaker 9 (36:24):
Is that right? How far?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
When they were in Vermont, when he had his place
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Speaker 6 (36:29):
I used to like that Rob that new Heart show
right well, but I like that one better than the
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Speaker 1 (36:35):
The original.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, the Bob Newhart Show which was on CBS or whatever.
But Chris, you you know how that show ended, right,
the Vermont Show? Do you know how that ended? I
feel like you told me once before. I recall I
told you, and you know and you know who told
me he loved it too? Was the late Bill Fitch.
Remember Bill Fitch and then that's he knew I loved
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television and stuff. So we talked about it and he
was saying, how great of.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
An ending it? Were you into that show? I didn't.
I didn't know it that well, but I saw the ending,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So the ending was he's in you know, the lights
are out, and he has a night and he wakes
up and Chris, he's like in the old bedroom from
the first show with his wife Susanne. Remember Susan So
it's the seventies. Yeah, and he and he wakes up
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and he says, Emily was her name, Emily. I just
had a crazy dream. I dreamt that ownder.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Uh Bred and Vermont and she and then and then
she she rolls over. You see her face and then
she says, oh, Bob, go to sleep or whatever. It's crassy.
And then that's the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And Chris, I don't know, like they had it in
storage or whatever, the bedroom from the seventies show.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's exactly the same. Exactly, Wow, that that is. That
is very clever, very very clever.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
All right, Rob so Russell Westbrook, the Clippers trade him
to Utah. He's gonna get released by the Jazz and
will sign reportedly with the Denver Nuggets to you know,
win the championship two years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
How you like this move for the Nuggets?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean they need They've lost people Chris from the bench, right,
and you know, he's energizer, Bonnie, he's if he accepts
that role, which I think he had.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
He did it at this point. He knows what he is, right,
and I.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Think that that could work out for for for Denver
because they needed to bolster their bench and add some
some some life to it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Chris, So I like it.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah, I like it as long as he's not starting,
as long as they're not looking at him as replacing
KCP can take this callwell, Pope who was a shooter?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh, and I just they're not the same player.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
As long as Westbrook will come off the bench, I agree.
Like he they need energy, so he will bring energy.
He'll bring a spark to that second unit. They still
need to ask some shooting. Obviously, when he's out there,
you're gonna you're gonna want to have shooting around him.
(39:21):
But yeah, I mean, for for that role, I think
it's fine. And here's the thing, Rob, when he went
to the Lakers, he was still like Russell Westbrook superstar
because the Lakers though they had a big pow wow
Lebron and a yeah. So it wasn't like, oh, come
and we want you to be on It was a
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but and I think they thought he was they like Lebron.
One of him is Russell Westbrook, the superstar. But it
was harder for him to accept a role that was
less than that. He had averaged a triple double in Washington,
he had helped him get to the playoffs, led him
to the playoffs with Bradley Beal, and then with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know, it was difficult, and he did do it.
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
He did accept it, you know, that second year with them,
but it obviously did not go well. Whereas now Rob
he knows that at this stage in his career, this
is what he is.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
I don't think he's going to Denver thinking oh, oh wow,
we got a big two me or big three me
Jamal and Jokics, you know what I mean. Like he
understands this is for you to be a role player,
as you said, an energizer off the bench, play with pace,
all of that stuff and I think he can do
that still and Rob at the end of the day,
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if it doesn't work out, they'll move on from me,
you know, if it's just not going well, they'll move
on from me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But I'm with you. I mean, I don't think this
is a bad move for the Nuggets. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And like you said, Westbrook, at this point, he's now
crispen like he's a guy going to go to a
basketball Hall of Fame. He's been on seven different teams
in seven years or well like.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That that talk about it, right or whatever it is
he's been around, think about it since he left. Okay,
see what was the first?
Speaker 10 (41:09):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Houston?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
OKAC, Houston, Washington, Lakers, Clippers, Clippers
Speaker 7 (41:17):
And now the Nuggets, and then we might be missing one,
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ESPN, as you may know, did a they were doing,
you know, ranking the best one hundred of the top
one hundred summertime.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
It must be summing, yes.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yes, that's when these things come up when when there's
a not as much going on in the sports world.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Only in w NBA. I guess that's all it's going
on in summer league.
Speaker 6 (03:09):
As I'm prepared to watch Alex Sar try to rebound
from that oh for fifteen outing rop.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
If I'm the coach, the first play goes to him
in the paint, and he scored the first basket.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Of the game.
Speaker 7 (03:21):
I like it to go to him in the paint, yes,
because he's.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Not serious, like that's my play, like I used to
love when Larry Brown came to the Pistons.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Chris, I don't know if you remember this.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Remember Ben Wallace felt like he wasn't a part of
the offense. Remember that the first play, the first basket
of every game, or at least basket attempt went to
Ben Wallace.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
They just fed the free game every game, Chris.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
That was because they were like, we want Ben to
do all this other stuff, right, so.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
We're gonna like boom that the first play. I thought
it was smart.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Now it is smart, and they did not do that
the Wizards. So okay, no, actually he cuts across the middle,
but he passed it out for three.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
He gets an assist, so okay, he got a touch.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
But anyway, ESPN rob it did their list of the
best one hundred athletes of the twenty first century, and
here's the top ten.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I'll read it backwards forwards.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
Number ten Kobe Bryant, number nine, Usain Bolt, eight, Tiger
Woods seven, Simone Biles six, Roger Federer five, Tom Brady four,
Lebron James, three, Line Messi, two Serena Williams and one
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Michael Phelps. Now this is important, rob Their voters were
from around the globe, it was not just American, and
you can kind of see I mean, obviously Phelps with
the Olympic accomplishments, Serena Williams in a global sport in tennis,
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and Lionel Messier Messi in the most important, you know,
the biggest sport worldwide being soccer. So I think that
has something to do with it. It's hard to I think,
and we'll get into this more later. I think the
only way to really do something like this where you're
crossing so many sports is if you're not going to
(05:22):
take like the importance of the sports and not to
belittle any sports. But I guess I should maybe say
the popularity of the sport. Then you almost just got
to go by who was the most dominant in their sport.
Speaker 7 (05:37):
But like I said, we'll get into that later.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
But what I want to ask you about because Rob,
as you may recall, a few years ago, we hear
Fox Sports Radio did our own We did the top
twenty Athletes of the twenty first century or that we
called it, Who's the Greatest Athlete of the two thousands,
and all of our personalities here at Fox Sports Radio
(06:03):
made did our votes.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I don't even remember that. I do, I kind of
remember it, but I don't. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
So here was our top five and it's definitely different
from ESPNS. We had Serena Williams five, Michael Phelps four,
Tiger Woods three, Lebron James two, Tom Brady one. So
they had Brady, they had Lebron ahead of Brady. We
had Brady ahead of Lebron. This is what I want
(06:32):
to ask you. Let's focus on those two. Who would
you have higher? Whether they're number one or whatever, But
who would you have higher? Since they're both in team sports?
Between Brady and Lebron?
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Are you ready? Don't faint Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I thought you might go there, it's Lebron James Chris
only from one standpoint, he's the all time leading scorer
in the NBA. That's happened most recently. He's got the championships.
We already know that. But that's a huge milestone for
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somebody in their career to be the all time leading
scorer in the sport. And I think that's why he's
ahead of Brady, even though Brady's won more championships over Lebron.
And I do think that that's what separates them because
the you know the titles, what is it four to
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seven or whatever it is, But Brady didn't win all
of those in the right when did Brady win?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
He did win them all in the two thousands. In
the two thousands was the first one, is what we're
talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:43):
The twenty Okay, yeah, yeah, but I would go with
I would go with Lebron ahead of Brady and neck
for that reason, because of all the numbers, all the
stuff that he's done. He's an all time greatest, greatest
Tom Brady is he doesn't have any kind of thing
the hang has had on like that. I don't think,
oh gosh, really yeah, like no, like is he the
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old Timpson, Like, aren't there other people have more passing
yards or no, he did have the penfing yard. No,
though I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Think your touchdowns.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
He got touchdowns, he's got yards, he's got completions.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Look, it pays me to say this because.
Speaker 7 (08:20):
I would love to pick Lebron. I gotta put Brady
ahead of.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Me because to the point we just made, Tom Brady
is first all time in wins, Pro Bowls, super Bowl MVPs, completions,
passing yards, and passing touchdowns and then of course the
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biggest to me, and obviously both are team sports, but
his seven super Bowls.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Is more.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Than any franchise. Like that is what is a killer?
Like wait a minute, I mean this guy by himself.
I mean, you know, as just his individual wins. I
don't mean he did it by himself without a team.
But he's won more Super Bowls by himself, and is
what was twenty three year career whatever it was, twenty
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four years? I think he won more Super Bowls than
the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys, the San Francisco forty
nine ers, all these great franchises. He won more than
all of them. And so I gotta give it to him.
I mean, and this isn't This is honestly neither here
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nor there if you're thinking of athlete, and that's why
I think you really can't in a poll like this.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
But the way we typically think.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
Of somebody athletic right speed, size, strength, that type of thing.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Obviously you pick Lebron over Tom Brady.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
But it's something like this where I think you just
have to look at how much a certain individual dominated
their sport. Because we're talking about different sports. Some of
them are solo, some of them are team. I have
to put Brady ahead. I just think I think the
way he dominated football was just more so than Lebron.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
But I think what you just said and that's the
reason too. And as you could see, most of the
players that are above all individual sport players the top four. Yeah,
but football is more than just a quarterback and more
than just.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
As well as Brady did.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Where Lebron has a bigger impact because there's fewer players,
and during his heyday or during his run, he had
more impact on the game than Brady.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Brady as well as he played.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
If the defense didn't do this, or the defense did
that or didn't, it could affect Brady, whereas I think
Lebron had had a bigger impact, not as much now,
Qus we talk about it all the time, the impact
on winning, But I think that might be the reason why.
Also Lebron gets a nod because you're talking about five
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players compared to twenty two players.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Yeah, I do think a basketball player can have more
impact on the game because he plays both sides, the
offense and defense.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They're fewer players.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
But I would argue, I think the position in football
that comes closest to having the impact on the game
is quarterback. I mean quarterback is just I mean you're
touching the ball literally at least every offensive play for
your team. And I think, like, while Lebron had an
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outsized impact on the game when it came to winning
his championship, like he's three of them or two of
them came with you know, a super stacked team in Miami,
and then even Cleveland was obviously a big three because
Kevin Love was a superstar before joining the Cavs, and
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obviously Kyrie Irving and then La not as much, but
you did still have an Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
So I don't think we can, like.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
If you want to say well, Brady's defense, which it was,
was great and you know, really impactful in a lot
of those wins. I would say the same thing for Lebron,
whether it was Dwayne Wade or Chris Bosh or Kyrie
Irving or Kevin not really Kevin Love. He didn't do
as much in the finals, in the playoffs in those
runs and Anthony Davis. So I think that that, you know,
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it's not like Lebron just did it by himself, and
obviously Brady didn't either, But I just think a guy
that won more Super Bowls than any other team in
the sport, I just I gotta go with him. And then,
like we said, we looked at all the individual records
that he has as well.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But this will be interesting, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah, yeah, I just think that there's so fewer players
in basketball compared to football. Brady can play well, the
kicker doesn't make a kick, you know, like there's so
many other arms and elements that it's hard. And I
know you count quarterbacks and they have Super Bowls, but
there's so many more things that are involved. It's just
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like we talk about in baseball all the time, Barry
Bonds getting five hundred in the postseason, Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
If the closer can't close out the game, you ain't
winning the World Series.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It doesn't matter what baseball. I think is the least
impact of can't.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
There's nothing you can do right, there's nothing you can
do if so, I think that that might have something
to it.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
But anyway, all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
This is an interesting one.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
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Speaker 6 (15:13):
Who would you list higher or as the top of
the better athlete in the twenty first century? Lebron James
or Tom Brady? I had Brady Hire, Rob had Lebron Hire.
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
All right? Q in Arizona. You're on the Odd Couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Cute?
Speaker 9 (15:34):
Hey, what's happening?
Speaker 10 (15:34):
Fellows up?
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Thank you?
Speaker 10 (15:37):
I gotta drive from work to home for hours or so.
It's good to you know, listen to make the drive
more smoother.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
But anyway, thank you though, thank you. That's a good thing.
Speaker 10 (15:49):
Yes, yeah, for sure. Well Parker, really quick. I saw
a stephen A show with you on there. You're talking
about baseball, my favorite sport.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Man.
Speaker 9 (15:59):
I enjoyed that interview.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Man thank you, Thank you very much, appreciate that. Yep,
did we lose him? Yeah? Is he gone? That's all
he had to say. I guess that's all he had
to say. All right, go ahead. Oh wow, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
It's okay, Andre in Massachusetts. You're in the I couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Andre, what's going on?
Speaker 11 (16:22):
Thanks for taking the call. This is a tough one,
but I have to go with Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Jr.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
On this.
Speaker 11 (16:29):
It was tugging at my heart because athletically, it's clear
there's no distinction there that Lebron James is an athletics
scene and Tom Brady lacks those five stars, those elite athletics.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
The Patriots cheating can't bother you at all, or though
I'm just curious.
Speaker 11 (16:47):
Good point point taking. No, it doesn't because you said
Patriots written March Patriots.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
You know, I'm just asking. I'm just asking, that's all.
Speaker 11 (16:53):
Yeah, okay. And you know with deflate gate, you know,
if we're lacking a couple whatever the terminology is terms
of pressure of the football, the fact of the matter
is this, there was two runs of greatness for Tom Brady.
Two all right and Lebron James. Yes, it's Super Bowls
Brady seven Lebron championships in four and Brady did get
the championship with Tampa Bay after coming from the Patriots.
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But there was like a ten year gap in between
dynasts for the Pacers and then Tom Brady in the
back half of his career returned with a vengeance. We
know the Lakers are not seriously competing for championships. The
Lakers are about playing tournament on three. The Lakers are
about being sensational and Lebron playing with his son and
selling tickets and then losing in the first round. Okay,
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But Brady over the course of his career, he was
just more consistent in terms of winning big games. He
was not supposed to win that Super Bowl against Patrick Mahomes.
Guess what, pat Pat Mahomes had to wait his term.
Brady had to get that next get that next ring.
And so it's a tough call. I'm a huge supporter
of Lebron in terms of what he means, his brand,
his business, IQ, social justice, Thomas Patrick, Edward Brady Junior
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has to get the nod.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Thanks taking the call, all right, appreciate it. How about
Jaron in Utah. You're on the Fox Sports Raito. What's up, buddy,
how are you?
Speaker 11 (18:09):
I'm really fine, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (18:11):
And that's man.
Speaker 10 (18:12):
I just how's it going?
Speaker 11 (18:15):
A longtime listener? I love the show.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
I just wanted to speak to Chris's point about how
Tom Brady has more championships than several of the organic.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Several everyone, or at least at these Super Bowls.
Speaker 9 (18:32):
He did it in twenty three years, but some of
these teams have been trying for six plus years, so
it's even more impressive that he did it in a
shorter time span.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Thank you taking my call, gentlemen.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Yeah, thank you. Jared from Utah. We appreciate it. Uncle Bill,
Uncle Bill and Toledo. Uncle Bill was on what was
that show, Chris, Uncle Bill and Jody and Buffy Family Affair?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
There we go?
Speaker 9 (18:59):
Oh yeah, uh, uncle Deal, Uncle Dell?
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Oh, uncle Dell? Sorry about that? What's up?
Speaker 9 (19:05):
Yeah? Yeah, oh yo, check this out. I'm going with
Tom Brady. Tom Brady, he he came in the league
and became the man. Lebron already came in the league
as the man. He did what was expected. Tom Brady
did what nobody expected him to do. He came in,
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he was what drapped it in what the.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
A six round? Sixth round?
Speaker 9 (19:31):
Yeah? Yeah, like what real late, you know? And and
and he became the man. And he won one and
left and put his and put his middle finger up
to everybody. So all his critics everything, Lebron is still
out here trying to prove stuff. He can't even he
can't even do anything nowhere close nearing what Tom Brady
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is going right now. So yeah, Tom Brady, he gets denied.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
All right, Uncle Dell, Thank you Jay in Kansas City.
You're on the eye couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
What's up Jay?
Speaker 9 (20:03):
Oh my goodness, thanks guys for taking the call. Hey,
really quick before I tell you that, Hey, Roberts wanted
to give you your flowers. What you're doing with baseball
and minorities on the writing side and getting more folks
interested in more specifically more minorities covering baseball. Me and
my buddies, I'm a young brother. We used to play
any bounce with the stick and the ball. Look up
to you know those guys, you know, Bill Madlock, Dave Parker,
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Stars you all those guys, And it's gone away, but
hopefully with what you're doing and getting more people to
cover games, maybe you know, some of us young brothers
you know, can get out, you know, I'm younger than
me now, but can get out and play the game,
so they can be covered by more minorities. So thank
you so much for that.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
That means, that means a lot to me. You know
that that means a lot. Go ahead, what's appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
I would say, you know, you had just touched on it.
I would say Lebron James because of the you know,
because of the cheating side of it, you know, and
I know you you you spoke on I'm not quite
often during that time and wasn't afraid to step into
that space. And but I just think you can't take away,
you know, the spygate and all the cheating and everything.
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Lebron James, you know has been out there, front stage,
front and center for all these years. And that's my
reason why. I mean, the cheating aspect, you know how
that hit b You know, Barry Bonds. I'm a big
Barry Bonds guy. When I was living in Pittsburgh, he
was our guy. But he can't even get in the
Hall of Fame. Now because the cheating and so the
cheating side of it is well documented. That's why I'm
going with Lebron James Brother Brussard, keep doing what you do.
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Rob Parker, thanks so much for doing what you do
in the community as well. And I'm keep listening here
from Kansas City down on eighteenth and Vine or the
Negro League Hall.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Now, I know why you saying Lebron, because you're eventually
gonna have Mahomes as the goat, which is cool with me.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
But no, thank you man, good appreciate that. Yes, thank
you from Kansas City.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
All right, it is the a couple, Chris and Rob.
We're gonna talk a little bit more about this top ten.
But first our man Martin Weiss in with the update.
Speaker 12 (22:08):
My wife got two summer league games going right now,
so that just goes to show you how much live
sports we have.
Speaker 6 (22:15):
The one of note, we're waiting with baited breath for
your latest WNBA update.
Speaker 12 (22:22):
Hey, they're on break. They're on break until August fifteenth. Now,
much to this chagrin of Rob Parker, I'm sure he
couldn't wait to miss it. The Sacramento Kings, Washington Wizards
right now, twenty three to seventeen, Sacramento, with the lead.
The story Alex sar Oh for two. So far from
the floor, So that's kind of what I'm on this
star watch. Will he score today? Let's see?
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Also he needs to get closer to the bat here
he is trying to drive. Oh gosh.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
Just so that's a live live looking at how it's
going right, Oh gosh. The Clippers trading guard Westbrook a
second round, picking cash to the Jazz and assign the
trade for Chris Dunn. Westbrook expected to agree to a
contract buyout with Utah and eventually signed with the Nuggets.
Little note that's the second time that Westbrook has been
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bought bought out by the Utah Jazz. Go figure and
at the Open, Daniel Brown is six under. He's in
the lead, Shane Lowry five under, Zolf Xander choufle A
two under, Brooks Kopka and Scottie Scheffler both tied at
one under, Tiger Woods eight over, Bryson De'shambeau five over,
and Roy McElroy seven over. At the end of the
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first round, the Dolphins places linebacker Bradley Chubb and Jalen
Phillips on the pup list.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
St.
Speaker 12 (23:40):
Petersburg City Council has approved plans for the Ray's new
one point three billion dollar stadium. They'll have thirty thousand
seats and a fixed roof, scheduled to be ready for
opening day twenty twenty eight. The University of Alabama plans
to honor former head coach Nick Saban by naming its
football playing field for him at Bryan Denny Stadium. And
the Jacksonville Jaguars sued Amid Petel. He's a staffer who
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stole twenty two million dollars from the team in a
three and a half year period to playoff gambling debts
and fund the life of Luxury. He's gotten sued for
a set of sixty six point six million dollars in
damages in a Florida state court. And I just know
if I ever got sued for even six million dollars,
I would just change my name and move to Russia,
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because there's no way I'm making that back, Robin Chris
back to you guys.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
All right, thank you, Martin Weiss.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
We're live from the tiereck dot Com studios, and Rob
maybe you answered this earlier when you talked about you
know a guy on the basketball court has a little
more impact on the game than on the football field.
But we mentioned that the top two athletes in ESPN's
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Best one hundred Athletes of the twenty first Century were
both in individual sports, Michael Phelps, the great swimmer at
number one, and Serena Williams, the great tennis player at
number two. So do you think that athletes in individual
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sports because it is all on them? Should, you know,
kind of get a nod over guys that play team sports?
Speaker 11 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I do, because it is all on you, Chris, Like
it just is. There's nobody to help you.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Maybe you're having a down, a bad day, you know,
or something, and your team can still win even if
you're not on par. And those are some incredible swimming
as you know, Chris, is probably the best exercise or
thing you could do with your body, you know, in
the water and endurance and what it takes. And I
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don't know where you were a tennis player, Chris at
all or no.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Not like Oregon, not like real to But I mean
I played, you know, I played a good amount with
my parents and my brother growing up.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
But when I got the Cincinnati the baseball writers who
were covering the team. Chris were tennis players, so they
weren't golfers. So they taught me how to play tennis
in spring training, and we carried our tennis equipment with
us every step of the way, you know, during the
red season, and we would start every day playing tennis
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and then we'd have lunch, go back, shower up, you know,
and then head to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
That was like what I did.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
So at one point I got so caught up in tennis.
I played tennis every day for two years.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Every day. I was in great shape, you know what
I mean. I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
If friends came to visit me, they had to bring
their tennis racket, like it was an obsession.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And I know how hard that game is. You know
that it is really really a hard game to play.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
And so I think that is why the individuals do
get a nod over the team players, believe.
Speaker 12 (26:54):
It or not.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I actually took tennis in college, did you really did you?
Speaker 6 (26:58):
My senior year and I you know, I had most
of my credits and so I took tennis was a
credit course.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
So what was that it was? Maybe it was a
credit and you're bragging about that. I really busted my
butt the first three years.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
So no, I took tennis my senior year, bowling, oh
my god, Christian Bowl it might have been my junior year,
and flag football one year.
Speaker 13 (27:28):
I think parents, poor parents, all the money they paid.
It worked out, It worked out. No, But yes, tennis
is a fun sport.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
But no, I don't.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Now I'm not saying the greatest athlete might not be
a guy in an individual sport. But I do not
give them, you know, grade them on a curve if
you will. I don't give them a little extra credit
because they play an individual sport.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
You are right, it's all on you.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
But I still, I mean, I just when I'm looking
at if I have to, you know, put together a.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
List of best athletes. Yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 6 (28:13):
I'm not automatically putting Muhammad Ali above Michael Jordan because
he played, you know, or was in a solo sport.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I didn't say automatically. I'm just no. But but you know,
I'm not even giving him a little extra extra credit.
And it's hard. A list like this is very difficult.
Speaker 6 (28:32):
And it's interesting, rob because you see the difference in
the Fox Sports list that we did a few years
ago and the ESPN list, we had two team sports
as the number one guys, which was Brady and Lebron,
and they had two individual sport guys at number one.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So you see the difference right there.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
We had Tiger third, obviously an individu were our three,
four five Tiger, Michael Phelps and Serena were individual sports.
But yeah, something like this is very difficult because to
your point, you do have those that are doing it
all by themselves. You have those that are doing it
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as a part of a team. You have some sports
that are you know, for again what we consider athletic running, jumping, speed, strength, power. Uh,
some sports demand more in those ways than others, like
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obviously Tiger woods and golf. I mean there's always been
a debate with the golf is it a sport or
is it a game? And so you know, you bring
in you could even put all the racing in there.
So I just think it's very difficult for number reason.
I really don't I know it takes score, did you
call it? I know they put it in.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Sport because there's a competition. I call it a competition
like like arm wrestling or you know, like a competition.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
You wouldn't call arm wrestling the sport, not like like
like that takes strength.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I mean, right, But I'm just saying I think even
in in in auto racing, Chris, if you have a
geloppie and you have to know how you're not winning,
like it's about the car you have and then you know,
trying to stay out of danger and whatnot, and you're
just doing this like like like literally.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't think it's easy.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
I think you and I'm not saying it's easy too,
But when you say you're just doing this, just doing this,
I meant that big, Chris, I mean, you know, like
you're dangerous. I mean, I hear you though, but I
just I certainly wouldn't call it a game. So if
you want to say a competition, a competition, what I
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would call it. Yeah, if I'm thinking, I think golf
is more of a game than a sport. And here's
why I say that, Rob, Because when you can take
a seventy year old man who may not be in
very good shape and he can wipe the floor with
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a twenty five year old superstar athlete in the prime
of his career, to me, that's not a sport.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
That's a game because it has nothing to do in
that in many.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Instances, I'm not saying there aren't golfers who are great athletes,
but or who aren't great athletes.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
I think there are or who are There are many
golfers who are great athletes.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
But you can actually take an old man who you know,
really struggles somewhat physically and it's not in great shape,
and he can demolish a star NBA player who just
isn't very good at golf and that or football player.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
For that matter, or whatever.
Speaker 6 (32:12):
And so to me, I view golf as a game,
and golf is, as you know, very mental as well.
You know, it's like chess to some degree, and that
is very mental. So I would call golf more of
a game all the race and is interesting. Like I said,
I certainly wouldn't call it a game competition if we
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if we allow that to be a category, I guess
that's fair, but.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
You know it's it's but yeah, I don't.
Speaker 7 (32:42):
I don't give the individual extra points just because it's
an individual sport.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
But you know, you are right.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
That's why we like when we talked with Sean Marrion Merriman,
I should say a couple of weeks ago Rob about fighting.
I mean, when you step in that ring or that octagon,
it is owed. It is you by yourself, and no
matter what goes through your head, you don't have it
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that night.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
This dude is stronger than you, he's better than you.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
Whatever, you have to deal with it, and everybody's looking
at you. You can't look at your teammate. You can't,
you know, just start passing the ball or whatever.
Speaker 10 (33:24):
So I.
Speaker 6 (33:27):
There is some merit to what you're saying, but I
just don't in a list like this, I would not
give somebody extra credit for you.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I'm not saying that they should automatically, that nobody on
a team sport should be ahead of anybody who's played.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
It just depends on what you were able to accomplish.
So I'm not in that camp.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
But I do understand why Sabena or you know, a
Phelps is looked at that way because there's no help.
Speaker 6 (33:53):
Yeah, it's so and again that's why what makes a
list like this so interesting. You also bringing to the
ROB factors like what is perceived to be a more
difficult sport, right, or what sport is perceived to take
more quote unquote athleticism, what sports are more popular. I mean,
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I think for some voters that even even if only subconsciously,
can become a factor.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (34:25):
You know, I'm sure with me, I probably do subconsciously
give a little extra credit to football and basketball and
baseball players just because those are the most popular sports
in our country. But I really, you know, I think
you saying Bolt is a guy that I would rank
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higher than ninth for what he did. I mean, he
puts so much distance between himself and every other person
that had ever won run the one hundred meters. It's
just like the gap between him and the second fastest
player man ever in one hundred meters is just ridiculous.
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They've closed it a little bit now, but it's still
a nice gap. And I think he could have he
could have easily been higher.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
All right, it's the Odd Couple, Big tray in the NBA.
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Speaker 6 (35:26):
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heard this song.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, I don't know this song at all. I know
that I can't think. I know hold on, I know it.
You guys should know this one based off of topical events.
Topical events. I do know it, but I can't picture
the show?
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Is that right? How far?
Speaker 1 (36:26):
When they were in Vermont, when he had his place
in Vermont.
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I used to like that Rob that new Heart show
right well, but I like that one better than the
first one.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
The original.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, the Bob Newhart Show which was on CBS or whatever.
But Chris, you you know how that show ended, right,
the Vermont Show? Do you know how that ended? I
feel like you told me once before. I recall I
told you, and you know and you know who told
me he loved it too? Was the late Bill Fitch.
Remember Bill Fitch and then that's he knew I loved
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television and stuff. So we talked about it and he
was saying, how great of.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
An ending it? Were you into that show? I didn't.
I didn't know it that well, but I saw the ending,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
So the ending was he's in you know, the lights
are out, and he has a night and he wakes
up and Chris, he's like in the old bedroom from
the first show with his wife Susanne. Remember Susan So
it's the seventies. Yeah, and he and he wakes up
(37:28):
and he says, Emily was her name, Emily. I just
had a crazy dream. I dreamt that ownder.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Uh Bred and Vermont and she and then and then
she she rolls over. You see her face and then
she says, oh, Bob, go to sleep or whatever. It's crassy.
And then that's the end of the show.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
And Chris, I don't know, like they had it in
storage or whatever, the bedroom from the seventies show.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
It's exactly the same. Exactly, Wow, that that is. That
is very clever, very very clever.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
All right, Rob so Russell Westbrook, the Clippers trade him
to Utah. He's gonna get released by the Jazz and
will sign reportedly with the Denver Nuggets to you know,
win the championship two years ago.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
How you like this move for the Nuggets?
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I mean they need They've lost people Chris from the bench, right,
and you know, he's energizer, Bonnie, he's if he accepts
that role, which I think he had.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
He did it at this point. He knows what he is, right,
and I.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Think that that could work out for for for Denver
because they needed to bolster their bench and add some
some some life to it.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
Chris, So I like it.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Yeah, I like it as long as he's not starting,
as long as they're not looking at him as replacing
KCP can take this callwell, Pope who was a shooter?
Speaker 1 (38:56):
Uh, and I just they're not the same player.
Speaker 4 (38:59):
No, no, no.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
As long as Westbrook will come off the bench, I agree.
Like he they need energy, so he will bring energy.
He'll bring a spark to that second unit. They still
need to ask some shooting. Obviously, when he's out there,
you're gonna you're gonna want to have shooting around him.
(39:21):
But yeah, I mean, for for that role, I think
it's fine. And here's the thing, Rob, when he went
to the Lakers, he was still like Russell Westbrook superstar
because the Lakers though they had a big pow wow
Lebron and a yeah. So it wasn't like, oh, come
and we want you to be on It was a
(39:42):
but and I think they thought he was they like Lebron.
One of him is Russell Westbrook, the superstar. But it
was harder for him to accept a role that was
less than that. He had averaged a triple double in Washington,
he had helped him get to the playoffs, led him
to the playoffs with Bradley Beal, and then with the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
You know, it was difficult, and he did do it.
He's a professional.
Speaker 6 (40:06):
He did accept it, you know, that second year with them,
but it obviously did not go well. Whereas now Rob
he knows that at this stage in his career, this
is what he is.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
I don't think he's going to Denver thinking oh, oh wow,
we got a big two me or big three me
Jamal and Jokics, you know what I mean. Like he
understands this is for you to be a role player,
as you said, an energizer off the bench, play with pace,
all of that stuff and I think he can do
that still and Rob at the end of the day,
(40:41):
if it doesn't work out, they'll move on from me,
you know, if it's just not going well, they'll move
on from me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
But I'm with you. I mean, I don't think this
is a bad move for the Nuggets. No, not at all.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
And like you said, Westbrook, at this point, he's now
crispen like he's a guy going to go to a
basketball Hall of Fame. He's been on seven different teams
in seven years or well like.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
That that talk about it, right or whatever it is
he's been around, think about it since he left. Okay,
see what was the first?
Speaker 10 (41:09):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (41:09):
Houston?
Speaker 6 (41:10):
OKAC, Houston, Washington, Lakers, Clippers, Clippers
Speaker 7 (41:17):
And now the Nuggets, and then we might be missing one,
all right, keep it locked.
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