May 10, 2024 • 37 mins
Chris and Rob discuss Shaquille O'Neal's beef with Nikola Jokic winning the NBA MVP award and tell us why Boston Celtics’ Game 2 loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers should give their fans cause to concern. Plus, the guys go head-to-head in a very special NBA MVP-themed edition of Teichert’s Tower of Trivia.
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We got Tyshra Tower of Trivia.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, so you
don't want to miss this and Rob. The Boston Celtics
are being beaten ninety five to eighty three early in
the fourth quarter on their home court by the Cleveland Cavaliers. Quickly,
this is not gonna be our topic for the segment,
(01:20):
but what are your.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Thoughts I had the thirteen and a half, but I'm
shocked that said that this has taking place. But we've
seen these lulls by the Celtics, Yep, we have. And
then you see the other ones.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The Celtics they lost Game two to the heat at home.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And Chris the story seven for twenty seven from three
that's what I'm seven for twenty seven. They missed twenty
threes and the story and they got to be down
by twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They got the ability to get to the whole.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, Porzingis is their main post guy, so they don't
have him there, but you just can't look. Maybe it'll
workout for him. I still think they do win the East,
but Rob, I don't. I like Denver better, I like
Minnesota better. I'm not sure about the other two teams. Okay,
see in Dallas. But but for Boston, Rob, they gotta
(02:17):
win a championship. It's not about getting out of the East.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
If they get to the finals and lose, it is
going to feel like they might as well have lost
in the first or second round.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, really like they've been knocking on the door
so long.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Eastern Conference Final after Eastern Conference Final got to the
NBA Finals finally, and they have not been able to
get over the hump.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So when you look.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
At them, it's not just about winning the East, and
you know right now they're having a little trouble doing that.
It is about can they win the whole shebang?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And that's the only thing that matters. They've been through
all of the other stuff. Nothing else matters.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Absolutely absolutely, all right, Rob, this is where we want
to go. Last night, Nicola Jokic named MVP third time
in four years. My vote was Luka Doncics he finished third,
Shay gilg just Alexander finished second. But I got no
issue with Jokic winning it. He had a terrific year,
as did SGA and Luca two and even some of them.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean there were guys.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You know, most years, Rob, there's gonna be a good
number of players, right that have MVP type seasons, And
so that's what happened this year. But Shaq and Charles
Barkley last night on T and T they had Jokic
on for an interview, and here's what Shaq and Barkley
kind of got into after Jokic was done.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Every year idiots get on TV and talk about who's
the best player. It never goes to the best player.
It goes who had the best regular season? You know,
actually he got robbed every year he doesn't. Well, most
of the time, it goes to the guy so you know, Shack,
say he got robbed. I don't know if he got robbed.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I got But talk about it doesn't go to the
best player.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Go to the guy who at the best regular you
know what, don't name it most viable players.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Don't name most players.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It goes to the most vibral player in the league.
That was me. It doesn't players, gil is all exactly.
We don't name it that. Let's let's just it's subjective.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What's going Well, I think I robbed. You correct me
if I'm wrong, because I didn't see it live. But
I think when Charles said, Shaq thinks he got robbed, I.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Think he was talking about shock feels like he himself
got robbed. No, no, he's like SG no, no, no,
that he had been. But he had been robbed during
his playing days. He should have won more m v P.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, look, Rob, I would say this, and you know
I've been a voter. I've been a voter for or
starting with ninety six. You know, that's almost thirty years.
When I went to the New York Times, Rob they
don't vote.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
They didn't the policy.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so those few years I was off. But otherwise
I've been voting.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I got admit it is.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's a negative mark on us voters that Shot only
has one and Kobe only has one and Steve Nash
has two.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now that's not done purposely.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know, year to year you might be a better player,
but you didn't your team.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Didn't win as many games.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, it happens, obviously, but it just does look
bad shots, right. I mean, can I look at the
year that he definitely should have won it?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know, but he deserve more than one. I disagree, really,
I do, and I don't think. I don't think when
you him and Kobe ex each other out Chris like that,
that really I think that more than anything, for the
people who watch closely, some people would shock people, some
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people with Kobe, people that would split a vote, and
I think that's what hurt him more than anything.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I don't think people pose that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't, but I'm saying that that that's the reason
had he not at Kobe as a teammate, Chris, and
he came away with one and they won three championships,
and then we got a different, different conversation. That's why
I'm saying is I believe that's the reason.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's all that, that's all you agree with that that
they canceled each other.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And what happens is that's how Steve Nash wins is
because they cancel each other out right and then you
wind up. I saw this happened in New York. I
saw this happened in New York.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
The year it was Strawberry and Kirk Gibson won the
MVP in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Chris, go look at his numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Twenty five home runs, seventy five RBIs right, Strawberry led
the league and home runs everything. But Kevin mcrenald's played
left field and had a great year for the Mets.
They split the vote in New York and Kirk Gibson
won the MVP that year. I've seen it, and that's
what I think happened to Shaq, mostly because.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Kobe should have had more and Shaq should have more
we both thought that they were both great. Nah, I agree,
and you're right.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean they we know they canceled each other, right,
I mean because and part of people's criteria is all
including mine, is often what's your supporting cast. So if
you won fifty five games and you didn't have another
All Star teammate, you get boosted up ahead of a
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guy that won fifty six games. But he's got a
freaking All NBA First teamer with him. Ain't Kobe Bryant
or named Shaquille O'Neill. So you are right about that.
Shaq has an argument. Rob third year in the league Orlando,
he led them to the best record in the Eastern Conference,
fifty seven wins.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
His numbers were.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Better basically across the board. Blocks David Robinson had him beat.
But Shack had more points per game, more rebounds per
game than David Robinson. But the Spurs won sixty two
games and Robinson got that MVP, but Shaq had. You know,
Shaq finished second that year, rob So that was an
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argument for Shack.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But yeah, I think you're right. I know you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Because nobody's purposely trying to take away from Shock and
when you look at these guys, Rob, you look at
most of the guys.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That win MVPs. Carl Malone won it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Stockton wasn't really gonna take it, none of them. Yeah, right,
as great as he was. Like I said, David Robinson,
this is when they didn't have really that second superstar.
They didn't have Tim Duncan at that point. Shaq and Kobe,
we see they cancel each other out. Jordan Pippen was
never really in the MVP discussion, right Magic. When Magic
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started winning them was when Kareem was older, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And I think Kareem's last one, Rob g correct me
if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think Kareem's last one was Magic's rookie season. So mostly, yeah,
Lebron won it. Now, Lebron did win it with d Way, Rob,
so that's one where having another great teammates, I'm not
saying that, but no, I know you did not say
every year. But for the most part, it is true
(09:50):
that guys canceled each other out.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think that's what herd Check and Kobe both and uh,
it's it's unfortunate. But the thing that I think that
that and this was in the notes that we had today,
Chris just the Joker in his favor that what is
the year robbed g nineteen eighty four, That MVP Chris
not since nineteen eighty four has won an MVP without
(10:14):
a All NBA player on the squad, without an All
Star like like how like he is?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Way not since nineteen ninety four four eighty four.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Has someone won in a MVP award without an All
Star or All NBA teammate.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yug Jokic is the only MVP this hatchet Tim Haberstrow
for the show. Okay, only MVPs is eighty four who
has never had a teammate, never had an All Star
in All NBA or an All Defensive honor.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's crazy. I'll give you. I'll give you another now.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
DeAndre Jordan has was made an All Star team, but
he doesn't play much.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So I guess does Abristraw did he say starter?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yes, yeah, here's another one, guys, and this will be
for those because if Denver doesn't win it this year,
Jokics may get some criticism, right, but the last eight
MVP winners have not won the championship that year.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
In fact, nine of the last ten have not.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Won the Championship's crazy and the year one that won
it was Steph and then last year he didn't win
it and it won a championship, right.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Right, Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Rob Jokic is the only MVP to ever ever. This
goes back to nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Seven or fifty six, whenever.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The first year of the league was the whole entire
history to NBA. Jokics is the only MVP to win
a championship without a fellow All Star starter.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Ever, Chris ever, ever, ever ever.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And people pointed to a elajuwon in ninety what was
that ninety four or yeah, ninety five, No, Elijah, I
had oldest Thorp. Now oldest thort wasn't some phenomenal player,
but he had made an All Star team at that point.
And so yo, you can say with you Jamal Murray's
All Star caliber star, but he ain't.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Made an All Star team.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And so that is a feather in yogas just got
there are knocks on yogis Rob. He has never been
He has never beaten a fifty win team in the playoffs.
And you know, we'll see if they end up getting
swept this year, so they are not. He won to
his first two MVPs without winning fifty games. One of
them was the pandemic shortened season. But so there are
(12:33):
some knocks against him, but that but that's the heck
of a that's a feather in your case. I was
gonna say, Chris, that's a badge.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That's a badge of honor that nobody else has able
to do that. And that's when you talk about most
valuable and making other people better around you where you
have a chance to win, right that that's that's so
when people are like always trying to, you know, make
a make a point about him, I mean, I don't
know how you can look at him and I'm not
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saying the all time greatest player we's ever played, right,
but you gotta give the guy credit.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, And SHOQ talked about don't call it most valuable.
I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The MVP is a great name, we're all used to it, right,
but it's not the most valuable because that's essentially immeasurable,
right And Rob, I mean, there could be a guy
on a thirty five win team that is of more
value to his team than any other player in the league,
you know, the other teams, Like, like I said, you
(13:32):
might have two All Stars on your team when the
Heat had Lebron, Wade and Bosh, not to mention Ray
Allen and Shane Battier and some other good players, Like,
was Lebron absolutely more valuable to that team then? I
don't know, some lone All Star was to his team
(13:52):
that won forty one games. Maybe not right, that Heat
team was gonna be really good anyway, they probably wouldn't
have won a champion ship.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They wouldn't have. But still, it's not value.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't know how you measure that other than some
of these analytics stats, and I don't think we just
want to totally go with that. So it is kind
of it's a missmash. But it is generally like a
player who had an outstanding season, his team won a
lot of games, usually fifty or more, they were a
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high seed, and you know he's he's a star who
puts up incredible numbers. That's generally generally what it is, right,
And it doesn't go to the best player because Michael
Jordan was the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Best player.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Right exactly, and Lebron was the best for a large
chunk of time.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So and I don't I think now.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Especially right like for those that say just give it
to the best, Dude. I don't think you start that now,
because that's not fair to Chamberlain and Lebron and Kareem
you know what I mean, They of them now right right,
so you know it is what it is. But eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Your thoughts on Yokic winning
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the MVP and if you want to weigh in on
Shaq only having one, Rob gave great logic.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He and Kobe just canceled each other out. It's as
simple as that. So Steve Nash has two, which is
equal to Shaq and Kobe combined. But obviously they're both
historically much better than Steve Nash.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
All right, A seven seven ninety nine on Fox Your Thoughts?
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A seven seven ninety nine on Fox you turn the
way in on the MVP conversation. Yokiics now with three
shack only had one thoughts on the MVP.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I'm at WUKRP in Cincai. All right, here we go, Chris.
Let's kick it off with Maurice in Atlanta. You're on
the couple, Fox boys, what's up Maurice?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Try to go on fellow journalists?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
How are you good man?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
How are you good? Good? Good? Doing some quick research
just looking at how Yoki JOm He's deserving, but compared
to his two previous two MVP seasons stats are pretty similar.
He actually dropped down a little bit. But I do
feel like it was kind of a makeup award from
last year from how he he took his scoring average up. No,
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he shot a better filk O percentage. Overall last year
and the way he finished, I think it was kind
of just.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A Chris talked.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Chris talked about it Maurice, like like, after all the
negative thing and people not wanting him to win, and
then he goes and have a historic postseason.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
He came into the season, he's had a half start, right, Chris,
with his to lose, I agree with and I think
he's deserving. I got no issue with him winning it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But look if if Anthony Edwards in the Timberwolves win
it this year, Rob Anthony Edwards will enter next season, Yes,
with the lots of junie start if he doesn't sg
A you know, like if neither of them wins it,
SGA will have a lot of jews going.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And if and if somehow have to joke on them,
come back Chris or whatever, you know what I mean,
and he plays well, then people will be like.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Dude, this dude is a mob. I don't know that
he'll have a hit. I'm not. I'm just saying, but
they'll be like, because.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, winning three, three and four years, yeah, and and.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He he I think.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Next year he will have to be so far out
in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I agree with you, you.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Know what I mean, just because I mean they call
it voter fatigue, call it whatever you want, but yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Always so he'd have to have a they have to
average a triple double, and they have to win sixty
games like something like that. ILK dre in Massachusetts. You're
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Speaker 5 (18:47):
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Speaker 9 (18:48):
Yeah, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. I
have to agree with Shaquille O'Neal on this one. I
think this was Shay Gillias Alexander's year to get the
Most Valuable Player based on the fact that the NB
he is a lot like the Oscars. You don't necessarily
win because you had the best year. You win because
it's your turn, right. Denzel Washington's best performance wasn't training day,
all right, but that was his turn, so that's when
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they gave him best act. That's been the case with
m VP. That's why a guy like squill Neil only
has one. You look at Michael.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Jordan, Well, here's the here's the problem with what because
there's a little bit to what you say, they spread
it out right, Carl Malone, Let's get him one, Barkley,
let's get him one.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I get a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That, But if they were spreading it out like that,
Kobe and Shaq would each.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Had more, that would have more than that. Why are
they spreading it to Steve Nashville?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
What did he win? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Not just that that black and white? Yeah, that's a
little too uh simplistic?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Is that the right world? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I think that's good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, So all right, whether you are.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
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Speaker 5 (21:08):
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Speaker 3 (21:16):
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Speaker 11 (21:27):
Gentleman's a privilege and an honor. The hair is flowing,
the skin is glowing, and Rob Parker is still showing
all of his affection towards me.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It's right, treating you like a brother. That's right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Man.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
You are you are kiss up?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You don't want no kissing. I'm not kissing up. I'm just.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well, you can't see him if you saw him, and
the glow on his skin and his hair blowing in
the wind. I mean, I can't say anything other than
X than what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Alex is not gonna fall for Rob. To you how
cute you you might? Rob is by Alex. He was
off from a gig on MLB.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Bro about it. That's we'll think about it. I will
I was going to buy pack.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I was gonna go do your DNA test. You might
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Speaker 10 (22:18):
That's right, definitely. Maybe you know that new.
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Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm an equal opportunity.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I appreciate that they will see your face to just
hear your voice.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
Because you need to.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Know Tell Hughes. All right, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
This week's edition is the n B A m v
P edition because the joker got the m v P
and everyone's upset about it, including Shaquille O'Neals. I flipped
the coin during the update, and it looks like Rob
Parker gets questioned.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
There we go. It's about time this.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No Tom foolish.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I broke a record.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Last he did a week that's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Use nobody remembers nobody remembers I remember nine, y'all, I don't.
That's right. What have you done for me? Lady?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Know?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
What I remember is it would have been a shutout,
but Rob's like, let me get this last clue in
and almost got himself fired in the process. B easy
to get shut out.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh that's right, that was a.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's terrible, right, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
We didn't even make the air if the podcast listeners
heard it. But I don't need the radio listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Man, You guys are always neutering me.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
What are you doing? Okay, here we go Question number one.
Rob Parker MVP addition before changing his name to Kareem
abdul Jabbar Lou Alcindor won an MVP in nineteen seventy
one as a member of the Milwaukee Blank.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Alex.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
How are you are you ready?
Speaker 10 (23:41):
I'm doing exquisite. Thank you for asking, and I am ready.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Tell even how cute he is?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Right?
Speaker 10 (23:46):
No, tell me, I don't have to say that. You
know what's funny?
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Rob?
Speaker 11 (23:49):
I had an uber driver dropped me off to pick
up my car today and he was like, are you
an actor? And I was like why, He's like, you
just look like an actor.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
See that's what's going on with you.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
It's just flowing, Chris right now.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
All right, here we go, let's do this.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
You know what.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
I'll tell you this, Rob too. I haven't got a
playlist from Cebe in years, so you're definitely doing better
than CP right now.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Ones on the way, let's go some hot holy hip hop.
Can I get the clue in? Or no?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Is that just too much to ask?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Guys, you've been you've been milking, and you know you're
glad we gave you that exactly?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
What you got.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Slang slang for that dollar must be bucks? I see you,
that's right right now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I was like, I don't what slang, but he's holding
up a dollar. No, che Chris. This dollar just happened
to be in my hand, and I was market chance.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I was waving at Moncey because I owe her a dollar,
and it just so happened that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Alix over, don't wave money at Moncey like you yeah
the way he's.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I didn't throw that Manci, I said.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I was waving it number two over to Chris, Sue Rob.
She's like, Rob, please do that again.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Alright, Chris.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Level two Charles Barkley won an MVP in nineteen ninety three.
His nickname, of course, is Blank Charles.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Gentlemen, if you're a gentleman, you must be a ser.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, Rob, that is the clue. I don't need charades.
I don't need to do gimmicks and tricks. I don't
need to show anything. I just do it verbally.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
Alright.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Number three, where do we go? Tyxis Tower Trivia. Hi,
welcome Rob Allan Iverson stole an m VP from our
guy shaged Diesel stole it from his house. He deserved it,
but he did have a cool nickname. His nickname was
the Blank.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Alex You ready?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
I'm ready, bron.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Alex you ready?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Rob ready? Question?
Speaker 10 (26:19):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
What a clue?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
What a clue?
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, when you give a great clue like that, I
mean that's right.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
All right, here we go, Rob, Do you do something
with your hair?
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Level?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Number four?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I did?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I put a little afrochine on a tip scrap. Thank you,
good God.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
We never would without ultra sheine in our house.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And you know what, Chris, all the couches were staying
in the back. You know, my had was shining.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was gonna Chris put in his hair today. But
I found out it was shoe polish.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It was not so natural. Oh yeah, right, no gray
in your What are you talking about that?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Oh no, it's just amazing, amazing, Even Chris, I'm fifty five.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Every person his wife go to the same stylist and
real sharp, all right, every level number four?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
All right, Chris knock at all.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
The MVP adition Tycho star with trivia Rob up twenty
to ten, Level four back to Chris. Derk Novinski won
the MVP two thousand and seven, but it was super
awkward because he received the award right after his team
got knocked out in round one by the we believe blank.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
Steph Warriors.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah again, there we go, excellent.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
PERI show.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
I thought that does sound you.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Know, I thought about Kurby. I thought about saying, soldiers,
would you have gotten that one?
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Soldiers?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Soldiers away, said soldier boy?
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I said, boys, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Crank all right, Level number five back to Christ doesn't
get that reference back to level number five? Yeah, level
number five, back to Rob. I can't say it on
the radio, all right, but we'll talk about it. Rob
Lebron James won four MVPs in five in five seasons.
(28:19):
During the twenty tens, the guy who won the MVP
sandwiched in between Lebron's back to backs, that, of course,
was former BullGuard Derek Blank.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
All right, Alec you ready?
Speaker 10 (28:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (28:33):
Chris never asks at least want to be there.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
This.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I'm gonna go against my initial thought.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Okay, you get one.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
It's a vacation day. Here we go, heads down, the
tops down.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
To all right, here we go, Alex, here we go.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
We just got filets the company paid.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
At the lamb chops.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Oh what are you doing over there? What are you
doing right there? What was that going?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't think that was the clue you were looking?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Wasn't the clue what you were doing? You don't be
writing it on the sheet, write it down.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Here we go, Here we go. I just got your text, Robin.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Violation.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Yes, I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Pete, Rob over here giving sports clues to the non
sports guy.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, thank you, Pete.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You have no idea?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
Is this like another Fred Trump thing? Is that what's
going on right now? Shout out Fred Trum Sampson.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
No, Pete Sampson, that is incorrect, but either way is wrong.
His brother are here, we go.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
This is where I take it. This is where I go. Ahead,
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Take it's Fred Trumpet.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Beget about Rob Okay, although you know remember that name?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
No, no, no, don't do it. I say, here we go, Flower.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Flower, give me question, Robie m VP with the Bulls
in the twenty tens.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Manty, do you bake a cake with Flower? I'm just
flack yold Flower. Pete said another clue. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Know you did.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, I said you did not.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I said, right now, Chris, Chris got Now.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You're gonna be a real good That I wasn't. I
wasn't gonna say anything. Now you're gonna get bad.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Moncey pointed at me very aggressively. Listen, did you hear, Chris?
You just cheated?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
How was that? He?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Rob already gave that. Moncey thought that Chris was a
man of the cloth.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And then she found out that you were on upholstry
salesman when.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
You were in college. All right, back to Rob for
eight points. Derek Blank, you don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Okay, here we go, Alex you ready, Yeah, I think
I might know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That wasn't fair.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
That was one okay, But here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
We have time for one more. If Chris gets it,
it's over here.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Now I'm not winning.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You are winning, but you have more turn Yeah right,
we do this quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Chris, he's gonna get this wrong alone.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Want two m vps with the jazz. Call him the
blank because he always delivered.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Postman man, that is.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's one word. You used, the word, and that word
you can't use.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Crack music, Alex bongos.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It better be some bongos, I hear, I would busy.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
There we go. What what is going on? You said,
mail man?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You said man, that's why you need to finish this
show under protest.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, hey, hey, Rick, Hey Rick, call be quiet. That's
why be quiet. Let it play sway with me. Come on, moncie,
right a couple. We'll be back in a moment. No, lie,
let it pre baby already late as a mode. Don't care.
Speaker 11 (32:27):
I'll pay the commissioner, Scott oh Man.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
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off the air. All right, Rob, we just mentioned it.
The Boston Celtics go down to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland
Cavaliers the fourth seed. Boston heavily favored in this series.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
They got in this game, Chris thirteen and a half
point favorites.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, and instead they lose by twenty four. And Rob,
you mentioned it a little while ago, but Boston actually.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Them taking thirty five.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Threes isn't a lot for them, but they only made
eight of them. So when you they shot twenty three
percent from the three point line, uh, Cleveland was hot
forty six percent from three and that really was the difference.
And Donovan Mitchell rob great game, twenty nine points, eight assists,
seven rebounds.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Evan Mobley also stepped up.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Now you can say, okay, Boston doesn't have Chris staphs
Worzingi's true. But Cleveland doesn't have Jared Allen, that's one
of their starters, starting big men.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
So that's a big win, Chris. They were supposed to
win that game and comfortably. That's a big that's a
big choke job at home. I'm sorry, Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And they turned it around.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You know, remember they lost to Miami in Game two
in Boston all of a sudden, that series was one
one day.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Miami didn't even have Jimmy Butler, and I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Was, you know, I went off when the Celtics and
they go ahead and win the next three by like
twenty points a game. But and look, I still think
they're gonna win the series. But we see this too
much with them, Rob, And they're facing teams that aren't
as talented as them, with all.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The injuries, Cleveland not as talented. Cleveland's good, but not
quite as talented.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
What's gonna happen when they face a better team, a
team that's just as talented or close, and then they
have some of these nights you know, so Boston.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Like their identity under Emai Udokah better, Rob and look,
e May he made his own band.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I'm not. It's his fault. He's gone.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But I thought Rob under him they had a tougher,
grittier mindset than they do now.
Speaker 8 (35:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And I think they're now a finesse team. They love
to chuck threes, they do some other things.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
But I just think sometimes you're gonna live and die
by that.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
And when you go seven for twenty seven to start,
and what'd you say, they finished eight for thirty five
or whatever, So that means.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Even after seven for twenty seven, they were one for
their next what eight?
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Eight?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, you're not gonna win. It's not gonna happen. So
but this is the things that we've seen with them
and why people don't feel that great about them despite
all the games that they've won. And it's always feels
like they can play down or a situation. And tonight
was about winning, you know what I mean, Chris. They
didn't have to win by by twenty five to feel
(36:21):
good about Tonight was about winning.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And look, they had a historic you know, win point
differential this year, but they weren't as great in the
clutch and you're not, I mean even in the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
When they've won, they've been blowouts. What are they gonna
do in a close game, That's what I want to know.
You're not gonna blow everybody out when you get to
the West. Believe me, you're not going to be blowing
everybody out.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
And so you know they.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Were in the weaker conference route. There's no ifsayings or
buts about it. They wouldn't have won sixty four games
in West. No, I don't even think they wouldn't have
won sixty They might not eve even been in the
number one seed. So they need to go back to
the drawing board and get their act together quickly.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
What do you think about Mike Budenoser being the Sun's
top He deserves another chance with that?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Interesting because I think he was firing in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
No, I think he deserves another shot. So I don't
have an is shoe. He has a good coach. He's
a good coach.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm just saying, like the firing of these guys sometimes
you know crazy, all right, it's the odd couple keeping lot.
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Speaker 3 (00:57):
We got Tyshra Tower of Trivia.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, so you
don't want to miss this and Rob. The Boston Celtics
are being beaten ninety five to eighty three early in
the fourth quarter on their home court by the Cleveland Cavaliers. Quickly,
this is not gonna be our topic for the segment,
(01:20):
but what are your.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Thoughts I had the thirteen and a half, but I'm
shocked that said that this has taking place. But we've
seen these lulls by the Celtics, Yep, we have. And
then you see the other ones.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
The Celtics they lost Game two to the heat at home.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
And Chris the story seven for twenty seven from three
that's what I'm seven for twenty seven. They missed twenty
threes and the story and they got to be down
by twelve.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
They got the ability to get to the whole.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, Porzingis is their main post guy, so they don't
have him there, but you just can't look. Maybe it'll
workout for him. I still think they do win the East,
but Rob, I don't. I like Denver better, I like
Minnesota better. I'm not sure about the other two teams. Okay,
see in Dallas. But but for Boston, Rob, they gotta
(02:17):
win a championship. It's not about getting out of the East.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
No, no, no.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
If they get to the finals and lose, it is
going to feel like they might as well have lost
in the first or second round.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I mean, really like they've been knocking on the door
so long.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Eastern Conference Final after Eastern Conference Final got to the
NBA Finals finally, and they have not been able to
get over the hump.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
So when you look.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
At them, it's not just about winning the East, and
you know right now they're having a little trouble doing that.
It is about can they win the whole shebang?
Speaker 4 (02:58):
And that's the only thing that matters. They've been through
all of the other stuff. Nothing else matters.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Absolutely absolutely, all right, Rob, this is where we want
to go. Last night, Nicola Jokic named MVP third time
in four years. My vote was Luka Doncics he finished third,
Shay gilg just Alexander finished second. But I got no
issue with Jokic winning it. He had a terrific year,
as did SGA and Luca two and even some of them.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah, I mean there were guys.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
You know, most years, Rob, there's gonna be a good
number of players, right that have MVP type seasons, And
so that's what happened this year. But Shaq and Charles
Barkley last night on T and T they had Jokic
on for an interview, and here's what Shaq and Barkley
kind of got into after Jokic was done.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Every year idiots get on TV and talk about who's
the best player. It never goes to the best player.
It goes who had the best regular season? You know,
actually he got robbed every year he doesn't. Well, most
of the time, it goes to the guy so you know, Shack,
say he got robbed. I don't know if he got robbed.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I got But talk about it doesn't go to the
best player.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Go to the guy who at the best regular you
know what, don't name it most viable players.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Don't name most players.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
It goes to the most vibral player in the league.
That was me. It doesn't players, gil is all exactly.
We don't name it that. Let's let's just it's subjective.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
What's going Well, I think I robbed. You correct me
if I'm wrong, because I didn't see it live. But
I think when Charles said, Shaq thinks he got robbed, I.
Speaker 6 (04:44):
Think he was talking about shock feels like he himself
got robbed. No, no, he's like SG no, no, no,
that he had been. But he had been robbed during
his playing days. He should have won more m v P.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Well, look, Rob, I would say this, and you know
I've been a voter. I've been a voter for or
starting with ninety six. You know, that's almost thirty years.
When I went to the New York Times, Rob they
don't vote.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
They didn't the policy.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, so those few years I was off. But otherwise
I've been voting.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And I got admit it is.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
It's a negative mark on us voters that Shot only
has one and Kobe only has one and Steve Nash
has two.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Now that's not done purposely.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
You know, year to year you might be a better player,
but you didn't your team.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Didn't win as many games.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
I mean, it happens, obviously, but it just does look
bad shots, right. I mean, can I look at the
year that he definitely should have won it?
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I don't know, but he deserve more than one. I disagree, really,
I do, and I don't think. I don't think when
you him and Kobe ex each other out Chris like that,
that really I think that more than anything, for the
people who watch closely, some people would shock people, some
(06:18):
people with Kobe, people that would split a vote, and
I think that's what hurt him more than anything.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I don't think people pose that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
I don't, but I'm saying that that that's the reason
had he not at Kobe as a teammate, Chris, and
he came away with one and they won three championships,
and then we got a different, different conversation. That's why
I'm saying is I believe that's the reason.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
That's all that, that's all you agree with that that
they canceled each other.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
And what happens is that's how Steve Nash wins is
because they cancel each other out right and then you
wind up. I saw this happened in New York. I
saw this happened in New York.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Chris.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Let me give you an example.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
The year it was Strawberry and Kirk Gibson won the
MVP in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Chris, go look at his numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Twenty five home runs, seventy five RBIs right, Strawberry led
the league and home runs everything. But Kevin mcrenald's played
left field and had a great year for the Mets.
They split the vote in New York and Kirk Gibson
won the MVP that year. I've seen it, and that's
what I think happened to Shaq, mostly because.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Kobe should have had more and Shaq should have more
we both thought that they were both great. Nah, I agree,
and you're right.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I mean they we know they canceled each other, right,
I mean because and part of people's criteria is all
including mine, is often what's your supporting cast. So if
you won fifty five games and you didn't have another
All Star teammate, you get boosted up ahead of a
(07:51):
guy that won fifty six games. But he's got a
freaking All NBA First teamer with him. Ain't Kobe Bryant
or named Shaquille O'Neill. So you are right about that.
Shaq has an argument. Rob third year in the league Orlando,
he led them to the best record in the Eastern Conference,
fifty seven wins.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
His numbers were.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Better basically across the board. Blocks David Robinson had him beat.
But Shack had more points per game, more rebounds per
game than David Robinson. But the Spurs won sixty two
games and Robinson got that MVP, but Shaq had. You know,
Shaq finished second that year, rob So that was an
(08:36):
argument for Shack.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
But yeah, I think you're right. I know you're right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Because nobody's purposely trying to take away from Shock and
when you look at these guys, Rob, you look at
most of the guys.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That win MVPs. Carl Malone won it.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Stockton wasn't really gonna take it, none of them. Yeah, right,
as great as he was. Like I said, David Robinson,
this is when they didn't have really that second superstar.
They didn't have Tim Duncan at that point. Shaq and Kobe,
we see they cancel each other out. Jordan Pippen was
never really in the MVP discussion, right Magic. When Magic
(09:20):
started winning them was when Kareem was older, you know.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
And I think Kareem's last one, Rob g correct me
if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I think Kareem's last one was Magic's rookie season. So mostly, yeah,
Lebron won it. Now, Lebron did win it with d Way, Rob,
so that's one where having another great teammates, I'm not
saying that, but no, I know you did not say
every year. But for the most part, it is true
(09:50):
that guys canceled each other out.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I think that's what herd Check and Kobe both and uh,
it's it's unfortunate. But the thing that I think that
that and this was in the notes that we had today,
Chris just the Joker in his favor that what is
the year robbed g nineteen eighty four, That MVP Chris
not since nineteen eighty four has won an MVP without
(10:14):
a All NBA player on the squad, without an All
Star like like how like he is?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Way not since nineteen ninety four four eighty four.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Has someone won in a MVP award without an All
Star or All NBA teammate.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Yug Jokic is the only MVP this hatchet Tim Haberstrow
for the show. Okay, only MVPs is eighty four who
has never had a teammate, never had an All Star
in All NBA or an All Defensive honor.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
That's crazy. I'll give you. I'll give you another now.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
DeAndre Jordan has was made an All Star team, but
he doesn't play much.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So I guess does Abristraw did he say starter?
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yes, yeah, here's another one, guys, and this will be
for those because if Denver doesn't win it this year,
Jokics may get some criticism, right, but the last eight
MVP winners have not won the championship that year.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
In fact, nine of the last ten have not.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Won the Championship's crazy and the year one that won
it was Steph and then last year he didn't win
it and it won a championship, right.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Right, Here's the other thing.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Rob Jokic is the only MVP to ever ever. This
goes back to nineteen fifty.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Seven or fifty six, whenever.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The first year of the league was the whole entire
history to NBA. Jokics is the only MVP to win
a championship without a fellow All Star starter.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Ever, Chris ever, ever, ever ever.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
And people pointed to a elajuwon in ninety what was
that ninety four or yeah, ninety five, No, Elijah, I
had oldest Thorp. Now oldest thort wasn't some phenomenal player,
but he had made an All Star team at that point.
And so yo, you can say with you Jamal Murray's
All Star caliber star, but he ain't.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Made an All Star team.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
And so that is a feather in yogas just got
there are knocks on yogis Rob. He has never been
He has never beaten a fifty win team in the playoffs.
And you know, we'll see if they end up getting
swept this year, so they are not. He won to
his first two MVPs without winning fifty games. One of
them was the pandemic shortened season. But so there are
(12:33):
some knocks against him, but that but that's the heck
of a that's a feather in your case. I was
gonna say, Chris, that's a badge.
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That's a badge of honor that nobody else has able
to do that. And that's when you talk about most
valuable and making other people better around you where you
have a chance to win, right that that's that's so
when people are like always trying to, you know, make
a make a point about him, I mean, I don't
know how you can look at him and I'm not
(13:00):
saying the all time greatest player we's ever played, right,
but you gotta give the guy credit.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah, And SHOQ talked about don't call it most valuable.
I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
The MVP is a great name, we're all used to it, right,
but it's not the most valuable because that's essentially immeasurable,
right And Rob, I mean, there could be a guy
on a thirty five win team that is of more
value to his team than any other player in the league,
you know, the other teams, Like, like I said, you
(13:32):
might have two All Stars on your team when the
Heat had Lebron, Wade and Bosh, not to mention Ray
Allen and Shane Battier and some other good players, Like,
was Lebron absolutely more valuable to that team then? I
don't know, some lone All Star was to his team
(13:52):
that won forty one games. Maybe not right, that Heat
team was gonna be really good anyway, they probably wouldn't
have won a champion ship.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
They wouldn't have. But still, it's not value.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I don't know how you measure that other than some
of these analytics stats, and I don't think we just
want to totally go with that. So it is kind
of it's a missmash. But it is generally like a
player who had an outstanding season, his team won a
lot of games, usually fifty or more, they were a
(14:27):
high seed, and you know he's he's a star who
puts up incredible numbers. That's generally generally what it is, right,
And it doesn't go to the best player because Michael
Jordan was the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Best player.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Right exactly, and Lebron was the best for a large
chunk of time.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So and I don't I think now.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Especially right like for those that say just give it
to the best, Dude. I don't think you start that now,
because that's not fair to Chamberlain and Lebron and Kareem
you know what I mean, They of them now right right,
so you know it is what it is. But eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox Your thoughts on Yokic winning
(15:11):
the MVP and if you want to weigh in on
Shaq only having one, Rob gave great logic.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I agree with it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
He and Kobe just canceled each other out. It's as
simple as that. So Steve Nash has two, which is
equal to Shaq and Kobe combined. But obviously they're both
historically much better than Steve Nash.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
All right, A seven seven ninety nine on Fox Your Thoughts?
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A seven seven ninety nine on Fox you turn the
way in on the MVP conversation. Yokiics now with three
shack only had one thoughts on the MVP.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
I'm at WUKRP in Cincai. All right, here we go, Chris.
Let's kick it off with Maurice in Atlanta. You're on
the couple, Fox boys, what's up Maurice?
Speaker 8 (17:02):
Try to go on fellow journalists?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
How are you good man?
Speaker 8 (17:05):
How are you good? Good? Good? Doing some quick research
just looking at how Yoki JOm He's deserving, but compared
to his two previous two MVP seasons stats are pretty similar.
He actually dropped down a little bit. But I do
feel like it was kind of a makeup award from
last year from how he he took his scoring average up. No,
(17:27):
he shot a better filk O percentage. Overall last year
and the way he finished, I think it was kind
of just.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
A Chris talked.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
Chris talked about it Maurice, like like, after all the
negative thing and people not wanting him to win, and
then he goes and have a historic postseason.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
He came into the season, he's had a half start, right, Chris,
with his to lose, I agree with and I think
he's deserving. I got no issue with him winning it.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
But look if if Anthony Edwards in the Timberwolves win
it this year, Rob Anthony Edwards will enter next season, Yes,
with the lots of junie start if he doesn't sg
A you know, like if neither of them wins it,
SGA will have a lot of jews going.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And if and if somehow have to joke on them,
come back Chris or whatever, you know what I mean,
and he plays well, then people will be like.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Dude, this dude is a mob. I don't know that
he'll have a hit. I'm not. I'm just saying, but
they'll be like, because.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You know, winning three, three and four years, yeah, and and.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
He he I think.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Next year he will have to be so far out
in front of everybody.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I agree with you, you.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
Know what I mean, just because I mean they call
it voter fatigue, call it whatever you want, but yeah, there's.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Always so he'd have to have a they have to
average a triple double, and they have to win sixty
games like something like that. ILK dre in Massachusetts. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
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Speaker 9 (18:48):
Yeah, how you doing? Thanks for taking the call. I
have to agree with Shaquille O'Neal on this one. I
think this was Shay Gillias Alexander's year to get the
Most Valuable Player based on the fact that the NB
he is a lot like the Oscars. You don't necessarily
win because you had the best year. You win because
it's your turn, right. Denzel Washington's best performance wasn't training day,
all right, but that was his turn, so that's when
(19:10):
they gave him best act. That's been the case with
m VP. That's why a guy like squill Neil only
has one. You look at Michael.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Jordan, Well, here's the here's the problem with what because
there's a little bit to what you say, they spread
it out right, Carl Malone, Let's get him one, Barkley,
let's get him one.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
I get a little bit of.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
That, But if they were spreading it out like that,
Kobe and Shaq would each.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Had more, that would have more than that. Why are
they spreading it to Steve Nashville?
Speaker 5 (19:34):
What did he win? Right?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Right?
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Not just that that black and white? Yeah, that's a
little too uh simplistic?
Speaker 5 (19:43):
Is that the right world? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
I think that's good.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Yeah, So all right, whether you are.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
We ready ready for Tyson Howa that's coming up next.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
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to the studio. That's why we should rice cake earlier today. Yes,
it was so good, delicious. Yes see, I'm I'm Alex.
Alex respects keeping it real.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
That is true.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Alex ain't in the rice cakes, all right, But you,
my boy, that's true.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
You you rather that than all this, you know, Alexa.
Hair looks so great?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
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Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh my god, I love though this shirt. Your muscles
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Speaker 4 (20:31):
But it was weird when we had the rice cakes
and he was playing Rihanna's cake Cake, Cake, cake Cake.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I just thought that was a little strange.
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Speaker 3 (21:00):
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Speaker 3 (21:16):
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Speaker 11 (21:27):
Gentleman's a privilege and an honor. The hair is flowing,
the skin is glowing, and Rob Parker is still showing
all of his affection towards me.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
It's right, treating you like a brother. That's right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Man.
Speaker 10 (21:38):
You are you are kiss up?
Speaker 3 (21:41):
You don't want no kissing. I'm not kissing up. I'm just.
Speaker 8 (21:45):
Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
Well, you can't see him if you saw him, and
the glow on his skin and his hair blowing in
the wind. I mean, I can't say anything other than
X than what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Alex is not gonna fall for Rob. To you how
cute you you might? Rob is by Alex. He was
off from a gig on MLB.
Speaker 11 (22:08):
Bro about it. That's we'll think about it. I will
I was going to buy pack.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
I was gonna go do your DNA test. You might
have a little bit of black age.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
That's right, definitely. Maybe you know that new.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Station, we could use a white dude on the station
Sports half Radio. There you go. You know me.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I'm an equal opportunity.
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I appreciate that they will see your face to just
hear your voice.
Speaker 10 (22:33):
Because you need to.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Know Tell Hughes. All right, guys.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
This week's edition is the n B A m v
P edition because the joker got the m v P
and everyone's upset about it, including Shaquille O'Neals. I flipped
the coin during the update, and it looks like Rob
Parker gets questioned.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
There we go. It's about time this.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
No Tom foolish.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
I broke a record.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
Last he did a week that's pretty bad.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Use nobody remembers nobody remembers I remember nine, y'all, I don't.
That's right. What have you done for me? Lady?
Speaker 8 (23:05):
Know?
Speaker 5 (23:05):
What I remember is it would have been a shutout,
but Rob's like, let me get this last clue in
and almost got himself fired in the process. B easy
to get shut out.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Oh that's right, that was a.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's terrible, right, all right.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
We didn't even make the air if the podcast listeners
heard it. But I don't need the radio listeners.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Man, You guys are always neutering me.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
What are you doing? Okay, here we go Question number one.
Rob Parker MVP addition before changing his name to Kareem
abdul Jabbar Lou Alcindor won an MVP in nineteen seventy
one as a member of the Milwaukee Blank.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
Alex.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
How are you are you ready?
Speaker 10 (23:41):
I'm doing exquisite. Thank you for asking, and I am ready.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Tell even how cute he is?
Speaker 5 (23:46):
Right?
Speaker 10 (23:46):
No, tell me, I don't have to say that. You
know what's funny?
Speaker 8 (23:48):
Rob?
Speaker 11 (23:49):
I had an uber driver dropped me off to pick
up my car today and he was like, are you
an actor? And I was like why, He's like, you
just look like an actor.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
See that's what's going on with you.
Speaker 10 (23:57):
It's just flowing, Chris right now.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
All right, here we go, let's do this.
Speaker 10 (24:00):
You know what.
Speaker 11 (24:01):
I'll tell you this, Rob too. I haven't got a
playlist from Cebe in years, so you're definitely doing better
than CP right now.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Ones on the way, let's go some hot holy hip hop.
Can I get the clue in? Or no?
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Is that just too much to ask?
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Guys, you've been you've been milking, and you know you're
glad we gave you that exactly?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
All right, here we go.
Speaker 10 (24:24):
What you got.
Speaker 11 (24:26):
Slang slang for that dollar must be bucks? I see you,
that's right right now.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I was like, I don't what slang, but he's holding
up a dollar. No, che Chris. This dollar just happened
to be in my hand, and I was market chance.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
I was waving at Moncey because I owe her a dollar,
and it just so happened that.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Alix over, don't wave money at Moncey like you yeah
the way he's.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
I didn't throw that Manci, I said.
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I was waving it number two over to Chris, Sue Rob.
She's like, Rob, please do that again.
Speaker 8 (25:17):
Look at that.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Alright, Chris.
Speaker 5 (25:20):
Level two Charles Barkley won an MVP in nineteen ninety three.
His nickname, of course, is Blank Charles.
Speaker 10 (25:29):
Gentlemen, if you're a gentleman, you must be a ser.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Yeah, Rob, that is the clue. I don't need charades.
I don't need to do gimmicks and tricks. I don't
need to show anything. I just do it verbally.
Speaker 11 (25:48):
Alright.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Number three, where do we go? Tyxis Tower Trivia. Hi,
welcome Rob Allan Iverson stole an m VP from our
guy shaged Diesel stole it from his house. He deserved it,
but he did have a cool nickname. His nickname was
the Blank.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Alex You ready?
Speaker 10 (26:09):
I'm ready, bron.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Alex you ready?
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Rob ready? Question?
Speaker 10 (26:19):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
What a clue?
Speaker 5 (26:23):
What a clue?
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Well, when you give a great clue like that, I
mean that's right.
Speaker 10 (26:30):
All right, here we go, Rob, Do you do something
with your hair?
Speaker 11 (26:32):
Level?
Speaker 5 (26:32):
Number four?
Speaker 3 (26:32):
I did?
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I put a little afrochine on a tip scrap. Thank you,
good God.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
We never would without ultra sheine in our house.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
And you know what, Chris, all the couches were staying
in the back. You know, my had was shining.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I was gonna Chris put in his hair today. But
I found out it was shoe polish.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It was not so natural. Oh yeah, right, no gray
in your What are you talking about that?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Oh no, it's just amazing, amazing, Even Chris, I'm fifty five.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Every person his wife go to the same stylist and
real sharp, all right, every level number four?
Speaker 3 (27:16):
All right, Chris knock at all.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
The MVP adition Tycho star with trivia Rob up twenty
to ten, Level four back to Chris. Derk Novinski won
the MVP two thousand and seven, but it was super
awkward because he received the award right after his team
got knocked out in round one by the we believe blank.
Speaker 10 (27:35):
Steph Warriors.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah again, there we go, excellent.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
PERI show.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
I thought that does sound you.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Know, I thought about Kurby. I thought about saying, soldiers,
would you have gotten that one?
Speaker 10 (27:53):
Soldiers?
Speaker 5 (27:53):
Soldiers away, said soldier boy?
Speaker 10 (27:55):
I said, boys, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Crank all right, Level number five back to Christ doesn't
get that reference back to level number five? Yeah, level
number five, back to Rob. I can't say it on
the radio, all right, but we'll talk about it. Rob
Lebron James won four MVPs in five in five seasons.
(28:19):
During the twenty tens, the guy who won the MVP
sandwiched in between Lebron's back to backs, that, of course,
was former BullGuard Derek Blank.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
All right, Alec you ready?
Speaker 10 (28:32):
Thank you?
Speaker 9 (28:33):
Rob.
Speaker 10 (28:33):
Chris never asks at least want to be there.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
This.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
I'm gonna go against my initial thought.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Okay, you get one.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
It's a vacation day. Here we go, heads down, the
tops down.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
To all right, here we go, Alex, here we go.
Speaker 10 (28:52):
We just got filets the company paid.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
At the lamb chops.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Oh what are you doing over there? What are you
doing right there? What was that going?
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I don't think that was the clue you were looking?
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Wasn't the clue what you were doing? You don't be
writing it on the sheet, write it down.
Speaker 10 (29:05):
Here we go, Here we go. I just got your text, Robin.
Here we go.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Violation.
Speaker 10 (29:10):
Yes, I'm ready.
Speaker 5 (29:13):
Pete, Rob over here giving sports clues to the non
sports guy.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Yeah, thank you, Pete.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
You have no idea?
Speaker 11 (29:24):
Is this like another Fred Trump thing? Is that what's
going on right now? Shout out Fred Trum Sampson.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
No, Pete Sampson, that is incorrect, but either way is wrong.
His brother are here, we go.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
This is where I take it. This is where I go. Ahead,
Here we go, Here we go.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Take it's Fred Trumpet.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Beget about Rob Okay, although you know remember that name?
Speaker 3 (29:49):
No, no, no, don't do it. I say, here we go, Flower.
Speaker 5 (29:57):
Flower, give me question, Robie m VP with the Bulls
in the twenty tens.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Manty, do you bake a cake with Flower? I'm just
flack yold Flower. Pete said another clue. Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
Know you did.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Yes, I said you did not.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
I said, right now, Chris, Chris got Now.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
You're gonna be a real good That I wasn't. I
wasn't gonna say anything. Now you're gonna get bad.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
Moncey pointed at me very aggressively. Listen, did you hear, Chris?
You just cheated?
Speaker 8 (30:41):
How was that? He?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All?
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Rob already gave that. Moncey thought that Chris was a
man of the cloth.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
And then she found out that you were on upholstry
salesman when.
Speaker 5 (30:51):
You were in college. All right, back to Rob for
eight points. Derek Blank, you don't know.
Speaker 10 (31:01):
Okay, here we go, Alex you ready, Yeah, I think
I might know.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That wasn't fair.
Speaker 11 (31:05):
That was one okay, But here's the problem.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
We have time for one more. If Chris gets it,
it's over here.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Now I'm not winning.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
You are winning, but you have more turn Yeah right,
we do this quickly.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Chris, he's gonna get this wrong alone.
Speaker 5 (31:22):
Want two m vps with the jazz. Call him the
blank because he always delivered.
Speaker 10 (31:29):
Postman man, that is.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
That's one word. You used, the word, and that word
you can't use.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Crack music, Alex bongos.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
It better be some bongos, I hear, I would busy.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
There we go. What what is going on? You said,
mail man?
Speaker 1 (32:05):
You said man, that's why you need to finish this
show under protest.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
No, hey, hey, Rick, Hey Rick, call be quiet. That's
why be quiet. Let it play sway with me. Come on, moncie,
right a couple. We'll be back in a moment. No, lie,
let it pre baby already late as a mode. Don't care.
Speaker 11 (32:27):
I'll pay the commissioner, Scott oh Man.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
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will see today's show. Post it right after we get
off the air. All right, Rob, we just mentioned it.
The Boston Celtics go down to the Cleveland Cavaliers. Cleveland
Cavaliers the fourth seed. Boston heavily favored in this series.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
They got in this game, Chris thirteen and a half
point favorites.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah, and instead they lose by twenty four. And Rob,
you mentioned it a little while ago, but Boston actually.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Them taking thirty five.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Threes isn't a lot for them, but they only made
eight of them. So when you they shot twenty three
percent from the three point line, uh, Cleveland was hot
forty six percent from three and that really was the difference.
And Donovan Mitchell rob great game, twenty nine points, eight assists,
seven rebounds.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
Evan Mobley also stepped up.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Now you can say, okay, Boston doesn't have Chris staphs
Worzingi's true. But Cleveland doesn't have Jared Allen, that's one
of their starters, starting big men.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
So that's a big win, Chris. They were supposed to
win that game and comfortably. That's a big that's a
big choke job at home. I'm sorry, Yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
And they turned it around.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
You know, remember they lost to Miami in Game two
in Boston all of a sudden, that series was one
one day.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Miami didn't even have Jimmy Butler, and I.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Was, you know, I went off when the Celtics and
they go ahead and win the next three by like
twenty points a game. But and look, I still think
they're gonna win the series. But we see this too
much with them, Rob, And they're facing teams that aren't
as talented as them, with all.
Speaker 3 (35:01):
The injuries, Cleveland not as talented. Cleveland's good, but not
quite as talented.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
What's gonna happen when they face a better team, a
team that's just as talented or close, and then they
have some of these nights you know, so Boston.
Speaker 5 (35:17):
I.
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Like their identity under Emai Udokah better, Rob and look,
e May he made his own band.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
So I'm not.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
I'm not. It's his fault. He's gone.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
But I thought Rob under him they had a tougher,
grittier mindset than they do now.
Speaker 8 (35:38):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
And I think they're now a finesse team. They love
to chuck threes, they do some other things.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
But I just think sometimes you're gonna live and die
by that.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
And when you go seven for twenty seven to start,
and what'd you say, they finished eight for thirty five
or whatever, So that means.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Even after seven for twenty seven, they were one for
their next what eight?
Speaker 7 (35:59):
Eight?
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Yeah, you're not gonna win. It's not gonna happen. So
but this is the things that we've seen with them
and why people don't feel that great about them despite
all the games that they've won. And it's always feels
like they can play down or a situation. And tonight
was about winning, you know what I mean, Chris. They
didn't have to win by by twenty five to feel
(36:21):
good about Tonight was about winning.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Right right.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
And look, they had a historic you know, win point
differential this year, but they weren't as great in the
clutch and you're not, I mean even in the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (36:34):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
When they've won, they've been blowouts. What are they gonna
do in a close game, That's what I want to know.
You're not gonna blow everybody out when you get to
the West. Believe me, you're not going to be blowing
everybody out.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
And so you know they.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Were in the weaker conference route. There's no ifsayings or
buts about it. They wouldn't have won sixty four games
in West. No, I don't even think they wouldn't have
won sixty They might not eve even been in the
number one seed. So they need to go back to
the drawing board and get their act together quickly.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
What do you think about Mike Budenoser being the Sun's
top He deserves another chance with that?
Speaker 1 (37:18):
Interesting because I think he was firing in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
No, I think he deserves another shot. So I don't
have an is shoe. He has a good coach. He's
a good coach.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm just saying, like the firing of these guys sometimes
you know crazy, all right, it's the odd couple keeping lot.
Jason Smith Mike Harmon, next fire on the way
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