Chris and Rob share their thoughts on the bad blood brewing between Russell Wilson and the Seattle Seahawks, and tell us which side is in the wrong in the Wilson-Seahawks melodrama. Plus, NFL Network analyst and FOX Sports Radio weekend host Bucky Brooks swings by to explain why Wilson needs to look in the mirror and take accountability for his own flaws, how the Wilson situation is different than the Deshaun Watson situation in Houston, and much more!
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How are you? How's your tooth? Thank god, oh my god,
you know what. I bounced back, man, it was I
was in bad shape because you know, after the show
last night, I didn't think I'd be able to work today.
I really I thought it was gonna be Robed. G
Rob g W it was gonna be Rob he was.
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He was here, man, he was so nervous. It was ridiculous. Oh,
I feel like I should I should bow out to
that Rob can get a show. He didn't want to
Rob trust he really didn't want any I was kind
of pushing him. But it's funny because you know, when
we went over the pre show meeting, there was a
lot of stuff about ranch dressing and Tacco. I think
he was trying to get the show. You should have
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stopped that's dressing. Lilian's on their way down right now,
she's in her car, on her way to your apartment. Right.
If if I met Yacos on the zoom, if I
met Tacco with a Mexican guy, that's a racist racist.
Why why an't you mention like ham hocks, sir, pigs
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feet because they don't eat that haul? He Rob likes pigs. Rob,
you've never had pigs feet, right? Yeah? Have have, fee,
just not the way that you probably get it cooked,
but yes I have. You've had pigs field. See see
they put it. I love pigs fee. You might as
well just take like a pound of fat. That's what
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eating it. I mean like what? Oh no, a lot?
No chitlands. You know why I never ate those chris
because when your mom cleans them, the house stink. It
stinks to the high heaven. They gotta be like, don't
they put him in vinegar or something? You you gotta
clean those that you don't clean day's worth of cleaning,
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right because those are pigan testines and they got their
messing there. No gross. I mean, I ate chitlands a
little bit when I was younger, but I just I
don't need Could your wife cook that stuff with him?
And then my wife's my wife does cook him. My
wife likes them, so she'll cook him every blue moon.
But you know, yeah, that's how it is, all right.
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This is the eye couple of folks. We got Bucky
Brooks joining us at the bottom of the hour. That
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We're gonna have a lot of enlightening and exciting and
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we're on Fridays now, don't you get Today's so on Thursday?
So yeah, that's why that's right fun. Uh And we
got super producer Rob g of course in the house.
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And mister David Gascon Junior. Wow, David Junior, Yes, we
had senior on. Was that Tuesday? No, the day of
the accident, there was Tuesday. I think I wish Dad.
I know, man, his dad is great. I don't you know.
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I don't know what happened what his dad. We know
when you're like a big time cop like that, you know,
I know he's retired now, but uh, the confidence in
his voice, do you know what I mean? Chris, like
you've been around or seeing everything like you can't you
can't shake him a guy like that. You can't shake
my brothers like that. My brother's an FBI agent and
nothing shakes him. Chris, like zero. I bet I believe
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it because think of what he's seen, what he knows, right,
what he knows, what he's been through. Right, For a
hot moment, I considered becoming an FBI agent, did you Well?
My senior year, me and a couple of you know,
other college students friends, we went to some you know,
we were just going to different like job fairs, right,
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and you know I interviewed just you know, interview with
a guy from the FBI. I thought about it. I
was like, you know, you make good money. You gotta
have a squeaky feing background Chris to get him too
the FBI. So you wouldn't have made it, you know.
I mean I wasn't. I wasn't out there committing crimes
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and stuff. But all right, let's get it popping Rod Parker.
Look Seattle, it just the drama, man. It really seems
like this thing might be going towards the divorce. I
didn't think that even earlier this morning, but now stuff
is coming out. First, the Athletic does a story this morning.
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It's really a nice expose about a lot of the
issues going on in Seattle between Russell Wilson and the
team and Russ seems to want more power and control
over the offense. You know, he wanted to cook, let
Russ cook. And second half of the season, Pete Carroll
went to his tried and true, you know strategy of
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running the football and just going from you know, trying
to shock the defense with a big pass here and there,
but really running the football and having a good defense.
And Russ was a bit bothered by that. His numbers
went way there. You remember, early on it wasn't even
a discussion who was MVP. It was he was to
the first part of the season. He was putting up
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five touchdowns every week. Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes weren't even
in the conversation. Chris. It was a run, absolutely, and
if he had kept it up, he would have won.
With all due respect to Rodgers, who had a tremendous season,
but if Russ had kept that pace up, he would
have been the MVP. But obviously he didn't. So there's that,
and then this was the kicker. Rob It's one thing
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for frustrations to be the air and you know you
got issues, okay, that can be worked out now. So
so Rogers agent tells Adam Chef, not Rogers Russell Wilson's
agent tells Adam Schefter that they have not asked for
a trade, but if he is traded, there are four
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teams that he would want to go to, and those
teams are the Dallas Cowboys, the Las Vegas Raiders, the
New Orleans Saints, and the Miami Dolphins. So here's my thing, Rob, Okay,
he hasn't asked him for a trade. But when you
put that out there, and Rob, g he's told this
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to the team, right, Like, this is not just he
didn't Schefters not breaking this. I mean he broke it
to the public, but he didn't break it to the Seahawks.
They know that if you trade me, I'm not asking
for a trade. I want to stay in Seattle. But
if you trade me, these are the four teams I
want to go to. Rob, You ever, were you never
in a relationship or even knowing somebody in a relationship
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where one of the parties was like, look, I don't
want to break up, but I want to date other people.
You mean my marriage or you're trying to talk about
what happened if I'm married. You don't say what, Rob,
what'd you say that I agree with you? What you
start naming who would you who would you like to
go out? I don't want to go anywhere. But if
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I'm going anywhere, you know your friend Betty Sue fine,
and yeah she's fine, and through them with the big butt. Yeah,
like those three. I'm interested in meeting those three if
we ever break up exactly. You know, Chris, right, once
you start naming people, that's a bad's that's bad bad sign. Man,
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that's a bad sign. So here's a I'm gonna ask you, Rob,
whose side are you on? You're on the Seahawks side. Yeah,
I'm on the Seahawks side because I thought all that
stuff and the complaint should have been private. Chris not
that he can't say anything or go talk to front office,
and man, I'm not that rigid that he can't say anything.
But once it went public and once he kind of
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ripped on the organization, maldi thing is this, Chris, and
you can say whatever you want. The Seahawks were doing
something really right for a long time. They got the
back to back Super Bowls. They almost beat Tom Brady
and the Patriots. They won the other Super Bowl, rushed
through the pick in the one yard line and the
legion of boom was put together. They had a great run.
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Probably I could have won or gone to another Super Bowl.
But but they had a nice run and they had
a chance to win back to back Super Bowls, which
would have been something special because it's so hard to do.
And Russ's behaviors like he'd been playing for the entire
for the Lions for twelve years, like Matthew Stafford or something.
And that's the part I don't get, like, like, this
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organization has been pretty good. I don't have the numbers
in front of me. Chris, I'm a guest that they
made the playoffs seven or eight years in a row,
seven out of eight? What has it been well with him?
They made number one with him? So that's what does
it say? Eight out of nine? Right? But it's all
with him? No, But I'm just saying though it. But
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but he wasn't a big part in the beginning. He
was more like a game manager in the early days,
Let's just be honest. And it was about their defense. Yeah,
it was about their day. Go back and Chris a
couple of years ago. Look, the defense was phenomenal. Don't
go back a couple of years ago. The team, but
he had a lot to do with you. You want
to go back a couple of years ago against the
U the Rams game. You remember the Rams game the
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playoffs drop g Do you remember that game? What's the
Rams of the Cowboys? Who they lose to the cow
They lost to the Cowboys. Okay, do you remember do
you remember Russell Wilson was they weren't throwing the ball?
Do you remember that? Go back and look at that game.
They were running the football and he really didn't get
to throw until after they fell behind. Then they started
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having him throw to try to get back in the game.
But that game he was like a game manager in
that game against the Cowboys. Here wasn't that long ago.
Here's why I'm with Russ and I hear what you're saying.
First of all, it's it's it's rob it's changing players.
This is not going away. We see it with Deshaun Watson.
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Now we're seeing it with Russell Wilson. We see it
with Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. Oh, we don't want
Antonio Brown, We're saying, Bruce Arian says. A couple of
weeks later, Antonio Brown's there and they went to Super Bowl.
Aaron Rodgers now is speaking up more in Green Bay,
like this is not going away. So you're when you
have a Hall of Fame player with you, specifically if
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it's a quarterback, franchises are gonna have to deal with
this now. So maybe, let's say hypothetically they get rid
of Russ and a few years later they come up,
they get another guy like him, another Hall of fame,
you know, bound quarterback who does great things. He might
want the same thing he just some some say not
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I'm picking the coach. I'm telling you everything we need
to do. But I want some say so I think
I don't think Russ is out of line and asking
that obviously, I don't think he's out of line and
saying I want to be protected more. I don't want
to get hit so much. I see Cam Newton. Cam's young,
but he's done because he's been hit some us. Nobody
says I'm about the public. The public, But that's all
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I'm on. That's all I'm saying, is that publicly privately
A problem with it being public. I don't have a
problem with it be in public. He didn't he didn't
totally rip the organization. He said he needs to improve too.
He just said I'm tired of getting hit. And when
he said it to the organization in private, whatever, I
don't know what their response was, but it wasn't enough
for him. And here's the other thing I'll say, Robin,
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why I'm on Russ's side. The Seahawks haven't been a
great organization without him. They had a nice little run
in the kind of the early two thousands. They had
Sean Alexander. Remember they got to the Super Bowl and
they lost, but they got there, but that was it.
They've never had won a super Bowl before Russy. They
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would quite finish. They weren't a great franchise rob they
never had a franchise quarterback. And when the years look,
the four straight years before Russ got there, they had
losing records. So we could talk all about the legion
of Boom, which was legit, but all of those guys
didn't go there the same year Russ got there. Rum
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immedia leave from let me finish. Russ took him immediately
from seven and nine back to back seasons, five and
eleven before that, four and twelve before that, and they
haven't won fewer than nine games since he's been there.
This dude had a lot I get it. He was
a manager. He wasn't Aaron Rodgers. I'm not gonna say that,
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but his and you keep poop pulling it, but I
think people get it now. Intangibles. This dude's a leader,
this dude's a winner, and he immediately turned them in.
They eleven wins and then thirteen wins and they win
the Super Bowl. Chris, he's the same guy. What's Pete
Carroll done in the NFL without he's He's not the
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same guy who's never gotten an MVP vote. Never, No, no,
he just made your point. You made your point. Let
me make mine. And I'm not gonna sit here and
say he's a bum. But to put it all on
Russ when they had Marshawn lunch one of the best
one and backs saying and they act like Keig. Only
reason why they've been good, it's a narrative. It was
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about the leagion of board. It wasn't only about seven
and nine. It wasn't only about we're seven and nah,
I'm not buying that. And that's why I don't want
to guy facts. I don't. I don't want a guy
who doesn't want to be there. If Russ wants to
go to the Cowboys of the Raiders. Let him go.
I mean, that's not the jerious. I'm fine if he
wants out, if he asked for a trade, then I
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would never want I would never want anybody, you know.
I'm just saying, if I have to choose between Russell
Wilson and Pete Carroll, give me Russell Wilson all day,
every day, because Pete Carroll has not done anything in
the NFL without Russell Wilson. You can talk about UFC
all you want. I'm talking about the NFL. Yeah, he
could have won two Super Bowls of Russell Wilson made
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that ridiculous play call to all of Russell Wilson, and
the sea hasn't tangible. So he should have changed the
play at the line of scrimmage. He should have improvised.
He should have realized it was a dumb play and
did something else. If he Baron Rodgers, the intense we
go here were freaking you quick, double sick. But I
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can't stand about doing this show with you. When I'm
talking about Aaron Rodgers, I was talking about Russell Wilson.
That's your freaking buzzz word. Talk about the topic my
talking about Russell Wilson. You the one. This is the
dumbest Aaron Rodgers that shook up honey iced tea away
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by You can't go walk away no, because it's done.
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So in this drama, this debate, this this this uh
tip for tat between the Seattle Seahawks in their franchise
quarterback Russell Wilson. Whose side are you on? You'll turn
away in Tony in LA You're on the odd couple
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of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Tony? Hey, what's up?
What's up? Fellas? You know I'm on the seahawkside. I'm
with you, but uh, I was gonna cook Russ. But
let me just say this, man, it's black history, mom,
and I want to appreciate y'all to man, two black
living heroes. Let me give it, give y'all y'all flowers.
My mom almost raised me, man. She always raised me
to give credit where credit is due. Um, And what
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y'all do when nobody's watching, it needs to be appreciated,
It needs to be recognized. You know. It's all fun
and love. We joke, we smoked Chris and all that,
and you know what I'm saying, We're gonna go at it.
But on the real door, I want to give y'all
y'all flowers, man, and and it's how you know what
I'm saying, it is true. You remember on Monday when
Chris forgot to pay his phone bill and then Rob
g had to sell me in for him. You know
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what I'm saying. I wanted to get Rob d the
credit because he was throwing all gas, no brakes, and
he came out did an excellent job, but he had
read a fan. You know what I'm saying. And so
I know y'all rubbing off on him, you know what
I mean, And so big pops to y'all. Man appreciate it.
Ling on Tuesday, Chris, if you want something, let's go
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to Mason Tony taking weeks. By the way, you're the
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Mason? Hey, thanks Fellers.
I'm working with Russell Wilson because I was out here
before Russell got here, and you wouldn't even know this
state had a football team. There was no trough Man
flags flying, nobody wearing jerseys. Now, all of a sudden,
everybody out here smelling itself because they went to a
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seat and went to a super Bowl, and it was
only because of Russell Wilson. You placed Russell Wilson with
anybody other than Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes.
They're five for their team at best. And Robbie ripping
him because he threw an interception in that second that
second Super Bowl, but he was he was being a
good soldier and following orders and look what it got him.
That's gonna follow him forever. Now he wants to say
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when it comes to something that's going to affect his legacy,
and you want to rip him for that too. You
can't have both ways, bro. He's eating that man like
robbing when he's ready the batman and needs to be
quiet and give that managed respect and get him some help.
I disagree with you, Mason, but thanks for the call.
I couldn't disagree with you more. Sounded like a Homer
blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington. You're in the eye couple.
Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Christ Rushart and Rob
(20:02):
parkerhead guys doing to that? We are good, man? How
are you? I'm doing pretty good. I just want to
call Way in on this Russell Wilson thing. So the
thing that sketches me out about this whole situation, if
he wants to go to four different teams, and I
think it's you know, the reason he's saying, oh, I
want to see in Seattle is because his character and
he always wants He always talks about like, oh, I'm
gonna stick with Seattle my whole career and we're gonna win.
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But I'm kind of with both of you guys on
this for different parts of your opening segment. I think
that he has had a great run. Eight eight playoffs
appearances in nine years with two super Bowl appearances is great, right,
But also, like, at the same time, I do think
there could be some improvements. But I don't know if
you guys know about this, But didn't he go into
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the office in November and complain about like this offense
and stuff after losing three out of four, Like I
heard that on Fox Sports Radio earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So he didn't really want to hear it. Yeah, So
I think he kind of had to come out and
he voiced opinions because look at this now, we're talking
about this for like two three weeks and he's kind
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of getting his way. I don't know what who we're
gonna pick up. I hope we do something really great here, right,
I like Russell I think we should keep them, but
if it doesn't work out, I'd rather have a good
block room than unhappy players. All right, good call. That's
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We are good now. I don't know what's going on
with you and Gascon, but he told us to remind
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you that your last playoff game was a home loss
to John Elway and the Denver Broncos, and that Terrell
Davis ran all over you as we told us. Yeah,
like a teenager. David Gascon was exciting about that because
the year before, and I remember the Jacksonville Jaguars in
ninety six, we said in the number one seeded the
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Lebroncos home as the walk part. So he was upset
about that. So that's why he has so that's why
that's why it's the big issue. He did conveniently leave
that part out. All right, Let's get to this tweet
that you put out so here it is because everybody's
talking about Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. This is you.
The more Russell Wilson throws, the worst it is for
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him and the team. If he wants to rack up
gaudy stats, he can throw it all day, but the
Hawks don't win when they put it all on his shoulders.
They win consistently because of complimentary football, not pinball shootouts.
So it sounds like you where are you at on this?
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I mean, it sounds like you're riding with the Seahawks
and Russ needs to just go along with the flow
for his own good. Is that what you're saying? I
am saying that like this is ely because I know
you gotta love comparisons or whatever. Russell Wilson needs to decide.
Doesn't want to be Tom Brady, doesn't want to be
Drew Brees. Okay, Tom Brady is an ultimate winner. Tom
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Brady has won a bunch of different styles when it
came to the Patriots and even the Bucks. Sometimes it's
been tom Brady's driving the bus. Sometimes it's been the
defense and the running game. Sometimes it's been complimentary players
in the kicking end that has enabled Tom Brady to
win at the highest level. Drew Brees has thrown it
all over the yard. He's learned every possible individual aunor
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that you possibly can win. Maybe too MVP. He has
five thousand years seasons at the Wazoo and it's all
been on him that he has won Super Bowl ring.
And so when Russ has to realize when I played
as the game manages a complimentary brow. I let Pete
Carroll do his thing. I went to back to back
Super Bowls, I won one. Since it's become about Russ
(23:58):
the playmaker and let Russ cook. We haven't seen the
CFC R to the NFC Championship Game. So he has
to make a determination how his legacy winds up. Because
we've talked about legacy in those things, Russ, what's more
important isn't about the wins, It's about the way that
you win. Running through the number three, he has to
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make good decisions. He's the only one who going to
sign that. I want to switch over to the Cowboys.
And what's going on with Dak Prescott. What do you
expect to happen here? I mean, this is surprising of
how long this has been drawn out. Obviously he's coming
off an injury, But how come they never signed him
from Jump Street? When the longer you wait and only
cost you more money? And do you expect Dak to
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be maybe with another team? Is this going to end
in divorce? No? No, I think Jack could be a round.
I think, man, this is a negotiation, and Jay Jones
love the negotiation, and I think he instilayed us in
early and now he's having to pay and the builders
come due. And so the situation that they find themselves in,
either they're gonna have to pay Dak prestown thirty seven
(25:03):
million dollars on the franchise tag, or they're going to
have to pay him over forty million dollars a year
on a four or five or six year deal. What
does Jerry Jones want to do? And if I'm Dak Prescott,
I know people are saying he's coming off the injury.
But Dak Prescott kind of holds all the cards in
the leverage because a couple of years ago, when they
offered him the deal, the money guaranteed they were willing
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to give him was one hundred and five million guaranteed.
He if he plays on the plants that a third
year and goes three years, because it goes up forty
four percent next year to fifty four million, and three years,
he would have earned one hundred and twenty two million
and you will have an opportunity to get signed. So
this is business is business. The Cowboy miss played their hands,
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so then they have to pay the Piking if they
pay him, whether they started on the franchise tag and
give him a long term deal, however it works out.
If he's getting forty million dollars a year, what do
you think is going to happen with the Cowboys as
a team, because obviously they won't have money to go
out and have pieces. You can argue they got pieces
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even though they didn't play well last year, Like how
good do you think they would be or will be
going forward if they end up paying him that type
of money. So now they've miscalculated how they built the
team because the k Z can they play the market
before the page to quarterback. So they basically went shopping
without a budget or anything. So now here's the thing
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that would change everything when it comes to Dacks money
or whatever. The NFL is about to do their TV
deal when the TV money kicks in, the salary cap
should have a major jump. So the deal that Dack
signs now, it'll be reasonable by the time that new
salary cap or kicks in and those things. It may
(26:48):
be uncomfortable for a year, but after that, I mean
it'll be fine. And those deals that we're talking about,
oh my gosh, I can't believe their pay these quarterbacks
forty million dollars. It'll be a blip on the radar
because everyone and will be getting paid in a new
salary cap era when they usher in this new TV money. Okay,
if I'm the Texans and you got a quarterback in
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Deshaan Watson doesn't want to be there, I gotta make
a deal. I don't know how you can force somebody
to play. He's not going to give you his all.
I don't care what he says about being professional. When
someone doesn't want to be there, what would you do? Oh?
You gonna dance for me now? Because I've already given
you that check. So I give him a check for
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twenty seven million dollars in September. If he the thoughts
that he doesn't want to pay, he has to give
back twenty one million dollars and so right here in
the off season is great, everyone's talking tough. But man,
when you start losing money out of your pocket and
you have to pay back a signing bonus that maybe
you spent some of it, that's when it becomes a
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real deal. The challenge will be are the Houston text
to their management staff do they have the cajoni to
hang in there when it gets uncomfortable in the media world,
because if they do, the leverage is really with the
team because new CVA has made the fine so prohibitive
that if you begin to miss days, they can come
(28:13):
and get all your money. And so, I mean, look, Rob,
you know it. In Detroit, Calvin Johnson is still man
that the line went after his money when he retired
before his contract with which I don't understand he did quit.
I just don't understand why he thinks I should be paid.
Really that I'm surprised with Calvin for real, Yeah, so
(28:34):
so so the money. When you start talking about the
money and the check stop coming, that's when it becomes real.
So the Texans have to hold the water and just
make sure that they don't care because the leverage is
still in their favor. Wow, Okay, so you wouldn't trade him? No,
I'm not trading himcause I gotta talk. I have a
top five quarterback who is twenty five years old. It
(28:58):
is so hard to find a friend Jazz quarterback in
the draft. The last thing that I'm gonna do, and
I'm gonna give up one who's not even really in
his time yet. I'm not giving up one that's innings
prime what I have him on a deal? No way,
I'm not. I'm not trying to go and find another
one because Houston Texans have to put on their big
boy camp and they have to be willing to deal
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with the uncomfortable nature of this negotiation because if they do,
when it gets to the season, the leverage goes back
the leverage with him, the leverage continues to go with them.
All right, So let's go back to Seattle now. Russell
Wilson has not asked for a trade, but his agent
has told the team if they trade him, I want
(29:40):
to stay in Seattle. Don't get me wrong, But if
you trade me Dallas, New Orleans, Miami or the Las
Vegas Raiders, what would you do if you're Seattle? Same
same tactics you take with Deshaun Watson or what. No,
this is a littlettle different, right, It's a little different
because if there's certain ways that the LCRS can't handle this, Right,
(30:02):
Russell is thirty two, I think you're soon to be
thirty three. What year they can get out to deal
next year via twenty six community while the dead cap hit.
So I think with the Scars want to figure out
they have to have discussions like, hey, look, man, is
the juice worth the squeeze? We should recognize Russell as
a top five, top team quarterback, but he is also
(30:24):
getting up in age and as he's increasingly asking for
more and kind of becoming more of a diva, do
we really want to deal with this because it's really
a playing style thing. Because Peter has a philosophy that
has been very successful for him in college and with
the Seahawks. Does he change to appease Russell Wilson without
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the guarantee that Russell's way is going to lead him
to greater success. I think at some point the CLC
Harks may come to the end of the line and say,
you know what, we're better off with another quarterback and
we will let Rust go if we can get about
enough compensation for him. You got you got something right. No,
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Bucky Pete Carroll hasn't been that successful without Russell Wilson
in the NFL. You know what I'm saying. Like he was,
he was having losing seasons until Russ got there. I
get it. Russ wasn't slinging the football and carrying the team.
But he has been the guy that's made Oh you
know one of the guys has made them win. You
sure you want him? They went thirty one from nineteen
(31:32):
seventy six to twenty eleven without a franchise quarterback. You said,
you know how hard it is to get one. You're
ready to move on that quickly. Well, I'm ready to
move on from Russ based on Russ not buying into
how the team has to play. Like once again, it's
a conversation Tom Brady, Drew Brees. Russ is flying as
long as he can play his way. I get all
the money, I get to set the terms for what
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I want to play. I gotta have an offensive line,
I gotta have my weapon. I need to have a
defense for a dog. Russ, while we paying you all
the money for it, Like, what do you make your
right and so at some point that's why you pay
the guys a big bump. If I'm not paying you
the big bucks, then I can give you all the
luxury items that you want to win. But you can't
have it all on a short term deal. Crush us
(32:16):
and cripple us on the sellery cab, and they complain
and say that you don't have everything. When you look
at the tape, you can say, hey, Russ, this ain't
all them. Some of this is you. When we let
you cook this year. The first eight games it was great.
The last eight were booboo. Against the playoff teams. You
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have eight total touchdowns, nine nine giveaways against the Rams.
In the playoff game, you're go up Lettings to twenty seven.
Hey man, I'm got gonna let you keep cooking if
you're burning up the meal. So at some point Russ
has to get he has to be better. He has
to he has to be better if he wants it
to be his way. If not, I'm Dee Carrell like Russ.
You're complaining too much, is not We're not getting true
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value on all this. That's muva. And we'll play the
way that I know wins games. We're the two thousands.
All right, that's Bucky Brooks. We appreciated one last thing
real quick. What'd you say? It was nine touchdowns and
eight and eight touchdowns and nine interceptions against playoff teams
eight eight total testdown nine giveaways against playoff team. Okay,
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you forgot to mention they stopped letting him cook at
that point, didn't They let him cook the first half
of the season, and then they look back to Pete
Carroll's tried in truce. They stopped letting them cook because
every time you get the paintcakes to paintcakes and Chory,
every time you get the eggs, the eggs are overdone
for people that you know what, Russ, I gotta get
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you off the kame. We're gonna order room service, and
we're gonna do it this way. So they went back
to running the football because Russ couldn't have the responsibility
of doing it. If you look at there's a four
game stretch where he had a million turnover. They're like, nah, dude,
we gotta scale back. We gotta get back to running
the football and doing it because the traveling with Russell
when teams are playing it gets the Seahawk when they're
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not running the ball. They're playing covered two to beat
covered two. The quarterback has to be precise and a
quick rhythm pastor Russ doesn't operate on rhythm. Russ is
a sant freelance player, so it's hard for the offense
to develop rhythm. If his game was different, then yeah,
you can say a Russ will do your thing, but
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he doesn't play according to script. It's hard to build
an offense like that around the talent like Russ who
is kind of doing his own thing. All right, that's
Bucky Brooks. We will continue this later, Bucky. We will
definitely continue this later. Great stuff. Man, We appreciate your time.
All right, man, we talk to you all right, man.
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we're gonna stick with quarterbacks, but move to the South
in Houston where obviously they're having their issues with Deshaun
(35:26):
Watson and Deshaun Watson to day, Rob, it did come
out that he met with the head coach, David Culley,
the new head coach, And I've said Rob that he
should meet with Cully. You know, we hear athletes and
others talk about they want more black coaches and we
(35:46):
want more black coaches and all that. I think it
would have been a horrible look for Deshaun Watson not
to at least sit down and meet with an African
American coach. And he doesn't have to say he wants
to stay in Houston, which he didn't, but I'm glad
he at least gave him the respect of meeting with him.
But in the meeting, Rob, he did tell David Culley,
(36:11):
the coach, that he has no intentions of ever suiting
up again for the Houston Texans. So they have still
publicly at least said that they're not gonna trade him,
but he's making it clear that this thing is gonna
come down. It's kind of like Bucky Brooks said a
Game of Chicken. Where do you think about this? Yeah,
(36:33):
I think that's the only thing. If you're Houston and
you're dead set against trading him, then I would force
him force his hand. And basically he's not gonna come
up with the twenty seven million and give it back.
He's not going to retire or not play for a
year to become a free agent, so he would be forced.
So I guess I would just write it out. I
think Bucky Brooks is right. If they were against it,
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I wouldn't keep a guy who didn't want to be around, right.
If they want to force his hand, that's the only
way you can do it. And I think he's right
for him to have to write a check for twenty
seven million dollars to give the money back. Is that
how it would work? Rob G? Do you know I
mean he get retired than yes. Yes. If he's saying
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I'm not reporting and he didn't officially retire, he would
have to give him the money back. They would find
him until they couldn't find him anymore. You have to
give the money back because he's not and then the contract.
Which Now, now, let me ask you this. If he retires,
let's say you know, he retires, obviously still wants to
play football, but he retires, how long do they hold
the rights to him? A couple of years Because that
(37:42):
happened with Barry Sanders, the Lions still had his rights.
Once he retired, Barry had to give money back to
the Lions. Um so I don't know how many exactly years.
I know he's got the four years. Yeah, he had
his rights for at least like three years. I think
I don't remember exactly. I could be wrong on the years,
but I know I wonder if it be the whole contract,
(38:04):
you know, because they do have leverage. They do have leverage.
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I really I thought it was gonna be Robed. G
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He was here, man, he was so nervous. It was ridiculous. Oh,
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Rob trust he really didn't want any I was kind
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we went over the pre show meeting, there was a
lot of stuff about ranch dressing and Tacco. I think
he was trying to get the show. You should have
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stopped that's dressing. Lilian's on their way down right now,
she's in her car, on her way to your apartment. Right.
If if I met Yacos on the zoom, if I
met Tacco with a Mexican guy, that's a racist racist.
Why why an't you mention like ham hocks, sir, pigs
(02:37):
feet because they don't eat that haul? He Rob likes pigs. Rob,
you've never had pigs feet, right? Yeah? Have have, fee,
just not the way that you probably get it cooked,
but yes I have. You've had pigs field. See see
they put it. I love pigs fee. You might as
well just take like a pound of fat. That's what
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eating it. I mean like what? Oh no, a lot?
No chitlands. You know why I never ate those chris
because when your mom cleans them, the house stink. It
stinks to the high heaven. They gotta be like, don't
they put him in vinegar or something? You you gotta
clean those that you don't clean day's worth of cleaning,
(03:25):
right because those are pigan testines and they got their
messing there. No gross. I mean, I ate chitlands a
little bit when I was younger, but I just I
don't need Could your wife cook that stuff with him?
And then my wife's my wife does cook him. My
wife likes them, so she'll cook him every blue moon.
But you know, yeah, that's how it is, all right.
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And mister David Gascon Junior. Wow, David Junior, Yes, we
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I know, man, his dad is great. I don't you know.
(04:54):
I don't know what happened what his dad. We know
when you're like a big time cop like that, you know,
I know he's retired now, but uh, the confidence in
his voice, do you know what I mean? Chris, like
you've been around or seeing everything like you can't you
can't shake him a guy like that. You can't shake
my brothers like that. My brother's an FBI agent and
nothing shakes him. Chris, like zero. I bet I believe
(05:17):
it because think of what he's seen, what he knows, right,
what he knows, what he's been through. Right, For a
hot moment, I considered becoming an FBI agent, did you Well?
My senior year, me and a couple of you know,
other college students friends, we went to some you know,
we were just going to different like job fairs, right,
(05:37):
and you know I interviewed just you know, interview with
a guy from the FBI. I thought about it. I
was like, you know, you make good money. You gotta
have a squeaky feing background Chris to get him too
the FBI. So you wouldn't have made it, you know.
I mean I wasn't. I wasn't out there committing crimes
(05:58):
and stuff. But all right, let's get it popping Rod Parker.
Look Seattle, it just the drama, man. It really seems
like this thing might be going towards the divorce. I
didn't think that even earlier this morning, but now stuff
is coming out. First, the Athletic does a story this morning.
(06:19):
It's really a nice expose about a lot of the
issues going on in Seattle between Russell Wilson and the
team and Russ seems to want more power and control
over the offense. You know, he wanted to cook, let
Russ cook. And second half of the season, Pete Carroll
went to his tried and true, you know strategy of
(06:40):
running the football and just going from you know, trying
to shock the defense with a big pass here and there,
but really running the football and having a good defense.
And Russ was a bit bothered by that. His numbers
went way there. You remember, early on it wasn't even
a discussion who was MVP. It was he was to
the first part of the season. He was putting up
(07:00):
five touchdowns every week. Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes weren't even
in the conversation. Chris. It was a run, absolutely, and
if he had kept it up, he would have won.
With all due respect to Rodgers, who had a tremendous season,
but if Russ had kept that pace up, he would
have been the MVP. But obviously he didn't. So there's that,
and then this was the kicker. Rob It's one thing
(07:22):
for frustrations to be the air and you know you
got issues, okay, that can be worked out now. So
so Rogers agent tells Adam Chef, not Rogers Russell Wilson's
agent tells Adam Schefter that they have not asked for
a trade, but if he is traded, there are four
(07:45):
teams that he would want to go to, and those
teams are the Dallas Cowboys, the Las Vegas Raiders, the
New Orleans Saints, and the Miami Dolphins. So here's my thing, Rob, Okay,
he hasn't asked him for a trade. But when you
put that out there, and Rob, g he's told this
(08:08):
to the team, right, Like, this is not just he
didn't Schefters not breaking this. I mean he broke it
to the public, but he didn't break it to the Seahawks.
They know that if you trade me, I'm not asking
for a trade. I want to stay in Seattle. But
if you trade me, these are the four teams I
want to go to. Rob, You ever, were you never
in a relationship or even knowing somebody in a relationship
(08:32):
where one of the parties was like, look, I don't
want to break up, but I want to date other people.
You mean my marriage or you're trying to talk about
what happened if I'm married. You don't say what, Rob,
what'd you say that I agree with you? What you
start naming who would you who would you like to
go out? I don't want to go anywhere. But if
(08:53):
I'm going anywhere, you know your friend Betty Sue fine,
and yeah she's fine, and through them with the big butt. Yeah,
like those three. I'm interested in meeting those three if
we ever break up exactly. You know, Chris, right, once
you start naming people, that's a bad's that's bad bad sign. Man,
(09:15):
that's a bad sign. So here's a I'm gonna ask you, Rob,
whose side are you on? You're on the Seahawks side. Yeah,
I'm on the Seahawks side because I thought all that
stuff and the complaint should have been private. Chris not
that he can't say anything or go talk to front office,
and man, I'm not that rigid that he can't say anything.
But once it went public and once he kind of
(09:36):
ripped on the organization, maldi thing is this, Chris, and
you can say whatever you want. The Seahawks were doing
something really right for a long time. They got the
back to back Super Bowls. They almost beat Tom Brady
and the Patriots. They won the other Super Bowl, rushed
through the pick in the one yard line and the
legion of boom was put together. They had a great run.
(09:59):
Probably I could have won or gone to another Super Bowl.
But but they had a nice run and they had
a chance to win back to back Super Bowls, which
would have been something special because it's so hard to do.
And Russ's behaviors like he'd been playing for the entire
for the Lions for twelve years, like Matthew Stafford or something.
And that's the part I don't get, like, like, this
(10:22):
organization has been pretty good. I don't have the numbers
in front of me. Chris, I'm a guest that they
made the playoffs seven or eight years in a row,
seven out of eight? What has it been well with him?
They made number one with him? So that's what does
it say? Eight out of nine? Right? But it's all
with him? No, But I'm just saying though it. But
(10:44):
but he wasn't a big part in the beginning. He
was more like a game manager in the early days,
Let's just be honest. And it was about their defense. Yeah,
it was about their day. Go back and Chris a
couple of years ago. Look, the defense was phenomenal. Don't
go back a couple of years ago. The team, but
he had a lot to do with you. You want
to go back a couple of years ago against the
U the Rams game. You remember the Rams game the
(11:06):
playoffs drop g Do you remember that game? What's the
Rams of the Cowboys? Who they lose to the cow
They lost to the Cowboys. Okay, do you remember do
you remember Russell Wilson was they weren't throwing the ball?
Do you remember that? Go back and look at that game.
They were running the football and he really didn't get
to throw until after they fell behind. Then they started
(11:29):
having him throw to try to get back in the game.
But that game he was like a game manager in
that game against the Cowboys. Here wasn't that long ago.
Here's why I'm with Russ and I hear what you're saying.
First of all, it's it's it's rob it's changing players.
This is not going away. We see it with Deshaun Watson.
(11:50):
Now we're seeing it with Russell Wilson. We see it
with Tom Brady and Tampa Bay. Oh, we don't want
Antonio Brown, We're saying, Bruce Arian says. A couple of
weeks later, Antonio Brown's there and they went to Super Bowl.
Aaron Rodgers now is speaking up more in Green Bay,
like this is not going away. So you're when you
have a Hall of Fame player with you, specifically if
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it's a quarterback, franchises are gonna have to deal with
this now. So maybe, let's say hypothetically they get rid
of Russ and a few years later they come up,
they get another guy like him, another Hall of fame,
you know, bound quarterback who does great things. He might
want the same thing he just some some say not
(12:32):
I'm picking the coach. I'm telling you everything we need
to do. But I want some say so I think
I don't think Russ is out of line and asking
that obviously, I don't think he's out of line and
saying I want to be protected more. I don't want
to get hit so much. I see Cam Newton. Cam's young,
but he's done because he's been hit some us. Nobody
says I'm about the public. The public, But that's all
(12:54):
I'm on. That's all I'm saying, is that publicly privately
A problem with it being public. I don't have a
problem with it be in public. He didn't he didn't
totally rip the organization. He said he needs to improve too.
He just said I'm tired of getting hit. And when
he said it to the organization in private, whatever, I
don't know what their response was, but it wasn't enough
for him. And here's the other thing I'll say, Robin,
(13:16):
why I'm on Russ's side. The Seahawks haven't been a
great organization without him. They had a nice little run
in the kind of the early two thousands. They had
Sean Alexander. Remember they got to the Super Bowl and
they lost, but they got there, but that was it.
They've never had won a super Bowl before Russy. They
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would quite finish. They weren't a great franchise rob they
never had a franchise quarterback. And when the years look,
the four straight years before Russ got there, they had
losing records. So we could talk all about the legion
of Boom, which was legit, but all of those guys
didn't go there the same year Russ got there. Rum
(14:00):
immedia leave from let me finish. Russ took him immediately
from seven and nine back to back seasons, five and
eleven before that, four and twelve before that, and they
haven't won fewer than nine games since he's been there.
This dude had a lot I get it. He was
a manager. He wasn't Aaron Rodgers. I'm not gonna say that,
(14:20):
but his and you keep poop pulling it, but I
think people get it now. Intangibles. This dude's a leader,
this dude's a winner, and he immediately turned them in.
They eleven wins and then thirteen wins and they win
the Super Bowl. Chris, he's the same guy. What's Pete
Carroll done in the NFL without he's He's not the
(14:40):
same guy who's never gotten an MVP vote. Never, No, no,
he just made your point. You made your point. Let
me make mine. And I'm not gonna sit here and
say he's a bum. But to put it all on
Russ when they had Marshawn lunch one of the best
one and backs saying and they act like Keig. Only
reason why they've been good, it's a narrative. It was
(15:02):
about the leagion of board. It wasn't only about seven
and nine. It wasn't only about we're seven and nah,
I'm not buying that. And that's why I don't want
to guy facts. I don't. I don't want a guy
who doesn't want to be there. If Russ wants to
go to the Cowboys of the Raiders. Let him go.
I mean, that's not the jerious. I'm fine if he
wants out, if he asked for a trade, then I
(15:24):
would never want I would never want anybody, you know.
I'm just saying, if I have to choose between Russell
Wilson and Pete Carroll, give me Russell Wilson all day,
every day, because Pete Carroll has not done anything in
the NFL without Russell Wilson. You can talk about UFC
all you want. I'm talking about the NFL. Yeah, he
could have won two Super Bowls of Russell Wilson made
(15:47):
that ridiculous play call to all of Russell Wilson, and
the sea hasn't tangible. So he should have changed the
play at the line of scrimmage. He should have improvised.
He should have realized it was a dumb play and
did something else. If he Baron Rodgers, the intense we
go here were freaking you quick, double sick. But I
(16:07):
can't stand about doing this show with you. When I'm
talking about Aaron Rodgers, I was talking about Russell Wilson.
That's your freaking buzzz word. Talk about the topic my
talking about Russell Wilson. You the one. This is the
dumbest Aaron Rodgers that shook up honey iced tea away
(16:29):
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So in this drama, this debate, this this this uh
tip for tat between the Seattle Seahawks in their franchise
quarterback Russell Wilson. Whose side are you on? You'll turn
away in Tony in LA You're on the odd couple
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of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Tony? Hey, what's up?
What's up? Fellas? You know I'm on the seahawkside. I'm
with you, but uh, I was gonna cook Russ. But
let me just say this, man, it's black history, mom,
and I want to appreciate y'all to man, two black
living heroes. Let me give it, give y'all y'all flowers.
My mom almost raised me, man. She always raised me
to give credit where credit is due. Um, And what
(18:15):
y'all do when nobody's watching, it needs to be appreciated,
It needs to be recognized. You know. It's all fun
and love. We joke, we smoked Chris and all that,
and you know what I'm saying, We're gonna go at it.
But on the real door, I want to give y'all
y'all flowers, man, and and it's how you know what
I'm saying, it is true. You remember on Monday when
Chris forgot to pay his phone bill and then Rob
g had to sell me in for him. You know
(18:37):
what I'm saying. I wanted to get Rob d the
credit because he was throwing all gas, no brakes, and
he came out did an excellent job, but he had
read a fan. You know what I'm saying. And so
I know y'all rubbing off on him, you know what
I mean, And so big pops to y'all. Man appreciate it.
Ling on Tuesday, Chris, if you want something, let's go
(18:58):
to Mason Tony taking weeks. By the way, you're the
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Mason? Hey, thanks Fellers.
I'm working with Russell Wilson because I was out here
before Russell got here, and you wouldn't even know this
state had a football team. There was no trough Man
flags flying, nobody wearing jerseys. Now, all of a sudden,
everybody out here smelling itself because they went to a
(19:20):
seat and went to a super Bowl, and it was
only because of Russell Wilson. You placed Russell Wilson with
anybody other than Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Pat Mahomes.
They're five for their team at best. And Robbie ripping
him because he threw an interception in that second that
second Super Bowl, but he was he was being a
good soldier and following orders and look what it got him.
That's gonna follow him forever. Now he wants to say
(19:40):
when it comes to something that's going to affect his legacy,
and you want to rip him for that too. You
can't have both ways, bro. He's eating that man like
robbing when he's ready the batman and needs to be
quiet and give that managed respect and get him some help.
I disagree with you, Mason, but thanks for the call.
I couldn't disagree with you more. Sounded like a Homer
blind Seahawks fan in Olympia, Washington. You're in the eye couple.
Fox Sports Radio. What's going on? Christ Rushart and Rob
(20:02):
parkerhead guys doing to that? We are good, man? How
are you? I'm doing pretty good. I just want to
call Way in on this Russell Wilson thing. So the
thing that sketches me out about this whole situation, if
he wants to go to four different teams, and I
think it's you know, the reason he's saying, oh, I
want to see in Seattle is because his character and
he always wants He always talks about like, oh, I'm
gonna stick with Seattle my whole career and we're gonna win.
(20:25):
But I'm kind of with both of you guys on
this for different parts of your opening segment. I think
that he has had a great run. Eight eight playoffs
appearances in nine years with two super Bowl appearances is great, right,
But also, like, at the same time, I do think
there could be some improvements. But I don't know if
you guys know about this, But didn't he go into
(20:45):
the office in November and complain about like this offense
and stuff after losing three out of four, Like I
heard that on Fox Sports Radio earlier. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
So he didn't really want to hear it. Yeah, So
I think he kind of had to come out and
he voiced opinions because look at this now, we're talking
about this for like two three weeks and he's kind
(21:06):
of getting his way. I don't know what who we're
gonna pick up. I hope we do something really great here, right,
I like Russell I think we should keep them, but
if it doesn't work out, I'd rather have a good
block room than unhappy players. All right, good call. That's
the Seahawks fan. Be sure to catch live editions of
The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays
(21:27):
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio app. He's an NFL Network analyst.
Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts our Man Bucky Brooks, What up, Bucky?
We are good now. I don't know what's going on
with you and Gascon, but he told us to remind
(21:48):
you that your last playoff game was a home loss
to John Elway and the Denver Broncos, and that Terrell
Davis ran all over you as we told us. Yeah,
like a teenager. David Gascon was exciting about that because
the year before, and I remember the Jacksonville Jaguars in
ninety six, we said in the number one seeded the
(22:11):
Lebroncos home as the walk part. So he was upset
about that. So that's why he has so that's why
that's why it's the big issue. He did conveniently leave
that part out. All right, Let's get to this tweet
that you put out so here it is because everybody's
talking about Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. This is you.
The more Russell Wilson throws, the worst it is for
(22:33):
him and the team. If he wants to rack up
gaudy stats, he can throw it all day, but the
Hawks don't win when they put it all on his shoulders.
They win consistently because of complimentary football, not pinball shootouts.
So it sounds like you where are you at on this?
(22:53):
I mean, it sounds like you're riding with the Seahawks
and Russ needs to just go along with the flow
for his own good. Is that what you're saying? I
am saying that like this is ely because I know
you gotta love comparisons or whatever. Russell Wilson needs to decide.
Doesn't want to be Tom Brady, doesn't want to be
Drew Brees. Okay, Tom Brady is an ultimate winner. Tom
(23:14):
Brady has won a bunch of different styles when it
came to the Patriots and even the Bucks. Sometimes it's
been tom Brady's driving the bus. Sometimes it's been the
defense and the running game. Sometimes it's been complimentary players
in the kicking end that has enabled Tom Brady to
win at the highest level. Drew Brees has thrown it
all over the yard. He's learned every possible individual aunor
(23:35):
that you possibly can win. Maybe too MVP. He has
five thousand years seasons at the Wazoo and it's all
been on him that he has won Super Bowl ring.
And so when Russ has to realize when I played
as the game manages a complimentary brow. I let Pete
Carroll do his thing. I went to back to back
Super Bowls, I won one. Since it's become about Russ
(23:58):
the playmaker and let Russ cook. We haven't seen the
CFC R to the NFC Championship Game. So he has
to make a determination how his legacy winds up. Because
we've talked about legacy in those things, Russ, what's more
important isn't about the wins, It's about the way that
you win. Running through the number three, he has to
(24:20):
make good decisions. He's the only one who going to
sign that. I want to switch over to the Cowboys.
And what's going on with Dak Prescott. What do you
expect to happen here? I mean, this is surprising of
how long this has been drawn out. Obviously he's coming
off an injury, But how come they never signed him
from Jump Street? When the longer you wait and only
cost you more money? And do you expect Dak to
(24:42):
be maybe with another team? Is this going to end
in divorce? No? No, I think Jack could be a round.
I think, man, this is a negotiation, and Jay Jones
love the negotiation, and I think he instilayed us in
early and now he's having to pay and the builders
come due. And so the situation that they find themselves in,
either they're gonna have to pay Dak prestown thirty seven
(25:03):
million dollars on the franchise tag, or they're going to
have to pay him over forty million dollars a year
on a four or five or six year deal. What
does Jerry Jones want to do? And if I'm Dak Prescott,
I know people are saying he's coming off the injury.
But Dak Prescott kind of holds all the cards in
the leverage because a couple of years ago, when they
offered him the deal, the money guaranteed they were willing
(25:25):
to give him was one hundred and five million guaranteed.
He if he plays on the plants that a third
year and goes three years, because it goes up forty
four percent next year to fifty four million, and three years,
he would have earned one hundred and twenty two million
and you will have an opportunity to get signed. So
this is business is business. The Cowboy miss played their hands,
(25:47):
so then they have to pay the Piking if they
pay him, whether they started on the franchise tag and
give him a long term deal, however it works out.
If he's getting forty million dollars a year, what do
you think is going to happen with the Cowboys as
a team, because obviously they won't have money to go
out and have pieces. You can argue they got pieces
(26:07):
even though they didn't play well last year, Like how
good do you think they would be or will be
going forward if they end up paying him that type
of money. So now they've miscalculated how they built the
team because the k Z can they play the market
before the page to quarterback. So they basically went shopping
without a budget or anything. So now here's the thing
(26:28):
that would change everything when it comes to Dacks money
or whatever. The NFL is about to do their TV
deal when the TV money kicks in, the salary cap
should have a major jump. So the deal that Dack
signs now, it'll be reasonable by the time that new
salary cap or kicks in and those things. It may
(26:48):
be uncomfortable for a year, but after that, I mean
it'll be fine. And those deals that we're talking about,
oh my gosh, I can't believe their pay these quarterbacks
forty million dollars. It'll be a blip on the radar
because everyone and will be getting paid in a new
salary cap era when they usher in this new TV money. Okay,
if I'm the Texans and you got a quarterback in
(27:08):
Deshaan Watson doesn't want to be there, I gotta make
a deal. I don't know how you can force somebody
to play. He's not going to give you his all.
I don't care what he says about being professional. When
someone doesn't want to be there, what would you do? Oh?
You gonna dance for me now? Because I've already given
you that check. So I give him a check for
(27:28):
twenty seven million dollars in September. If he the thoughts
that he doesn't want to pay, he has to give
back twenty one million dollars and so right here in
the off season is great, everyone's talking tough. But man,
when you start losing money out of your pocket and
you have to pay back a signing bonus that maybe
you spent some of it, that's when it becomes a
(27:50):
real deal. The challenge will be are the Houston text
to their management staff do they have the cajoni to
hang in there when it gets uncomfortable in the media world,
because if they do, the leverage is really with the
team because new CVA has made the fine so prohibitive
that if you begin to miss days, they can come
(28:13):
and get all your money. And so, I mean, look, Rob,
you know it. In Detroit, Calvin Johnson is still man
that the line went after his money when he retired
before his contract with which I don't understand he did quit.
I just don't understand why he thinks I should be paid.
Really that I'm surprised with Calvin for real, Yeah, so
(28:34):
so so the money. When you start talking about the
money and the check stop coming, that's when it becomes real.
So the Texans have to hold the water and just
make sure that they don't care because the leverage is
still in their favor. Wow, Okay, so you wouldn't trade him? No,
I'm not trading himcause I gotta talk. I have a
top five quarterback who is twenty five years old. It
(28:58):
is so hard to find a friend Jazz quarterback in
the draft. The last thing that I'm gonna do, and
I'm gonna give up one who's not even really in
his time yet. I'm not giving up one that's innings
prime what I have him on a deal? No way,
I'm not. I'm not trying to go and find another
one because Houston Texans have to put on their big
boy camp and they have to be willing to deal
(29:19):
with the uncomfortable nature of this negotiation because if they do,
when it gets to the season, the leverage goes back
the leverage with him, the leverage continues to go with them.
All right, So let's go back to Seattle now. Russell
Wilson has not asked for a trade, but his agent
has told the team if they trade him, I want
(29:40):
to stay in Seattle. Don't get me wrong, But if
you trade me Dallas, New Orleans, Miami or the Las
Vegas Raiders, what would you do if you're Seattle? Same
same tactics you take with Deshaun Watson or what. No,
this is a littlettle different, right, It's a little different
because if there's certain ways that the LCRS can't handle this, Right,
(30:02):
Russell is thirty two, I think you're soon to be
thirty three. What year they can get out to deal
next year via twenty six community while the dead cap hit.
So I think with the Scars want to figure out
they have to have discussions like, hey, look, man, is
the juice worth the squeeze? We should recognize Russell as
a top five, top team quarterback, but he is also
(30:24):
getting up in age and as he's increasingly asking for
more and kind of becoming more of a diva, do
we really want to deal with this because it's really
a playing style thing. Because Peter has a philosophy that
has been very successful for him in college and with
the Seahawks. Does he change to appease Russell Wilson without
(30:45):
the guarantee that Russell's way is going to lead him
to greater success. I think at some point the CLC
Harks may come to the end of the line and say,
you know what, we're better off with another quarterback and
we will let Rust go if we can get about
enough compensation for him. You got you got something right. No,
(31:09):
Bucky Pete Carroll hasn't been that successful without Russell Wilson
in the NFL. You know what I'm saying. Like he was,
he was having losing seasons until Russ got there. I
get it. Russ wasn't slinging the football and carrying the team.
But he has been the guy that's made Oh you
know one of the guys has made them win. You
sure you want him? They went thirty one from nineteen
(31:32):
seventy six to twenty eleven without a franchise quarterback. You said,
you know how hard it is to get one. You're
ready to move on that quickly. Well, I'm ready to
move on from Russ based on Russ not buying into
how the team has to play. Like once again, it's
a conversation Tom Brady, Drew Brees. Russ is flying as
long as he can play his way. I get all
the money, I get to set the terms for what
(31:54):
I want to play. I gotta have an offensive line,
I gotta have my weapon. I need to have a
defense for a dog. Russ, while we paying you all
the money for it, Like, what do you make your
right and so at some point that's why you pay
the guys a big bump. If I'm not paying you
the big bucks, then I can give you all the
luxury items that you want to win. But you can't
have it all on a short term deal. Crush us
(32:16):
and cripple us on the sellery cab, and they complain
and say that you don't have everything. When you look
at the tape, you can say, hey, Russ, this ain't
all them. Some of this is you. When we let
you cook this year. The first eight games it was great.
The last eight were booboo. Against the playoff teams. You
(32:36):
have eight total touchdowns, nine nine giveaways against the Rams.
In the playoff game, you're go up Lettings to twenty seven.
Hey man, I'm got gonna let you keep cooking if
you're burning up the meal. So at some point Russ
has to get he has to be better. He has
to he has to be better if he wants it
to be his way. If not, I'm Dee Carrell like Russ.
You're complaining too much, is not We're not getting true
(32:59):
value on all this. That's muva. And we'll play the
way that I know wins games. We're the two thousands.
All right, that's Bucky Brooks. We appreciated one last thing
real quick. What'd you say? It was nine touchdowns and
eight and eight touchdowns and nine interceptions against playoff teams
eight eight total testdown nine giveaways against playoff team. Okay,
(33:21):
you forgot to mention they stopped letting him cook at
that point, didn't They let him cook the first half
of the season, and then they look back to Pete
Carroll's tried in truce. They stopped letting them cook because
every time you get the paintcakes to paintcakes and Chory,
every time you get the eggs, the eggs are overdone
for people that you know what, Russ, I gotta get
(33:42):
you off the kame. We're gonna order room service, and
we're gonna do it this way. So they went back
to running the football because Russ couldn't have the responsibility
of doing it. If you look at there's a four
game stretch where he had a million turnover. They're like, nah, dude,
we gotta scale back. We gotta get back to running
the football and doing it because the traveling with Russell
when teams are playing it gets the Seahawk when they're
(34:03):
not running the ball. They're playing covered two to beat
covered two. The quarterback has to be precise and a
quick rhythm pastor Russ doesn't operate on rhythm. Russ is
a sant freelance player, so it's hard for the offense
to develop rhythm. If his game was different, then yeah,
you can say a Russ will do your thing, but
(34:23):
he doesn't play according to script. It's hard to build
an offense like that around the talent like Russ who
is kind of doing his own thing. All right, that's
Bucky Brooks. We will continue this later, Bucky. We will
definitely continue this later. Great stuff. Man, We appreciate your time.
All right, man, we talk to you all right, man.
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That's money for those not in the know. All right,
we're gonna stick with quarterbacks, but move to the South
in Houston where obviously they're having their issues with Deshaun
(35:26):
Watson and Deshaun Watson to day, Rob, it did come
out that he met with the head coach, David Culley,
the new head coach, And I've said Rob that he
should meet with Cully. You know, we hear athletes and
others talk about they want more black coaches and we
(35:46):
want more black coaches and all that. I think it
would have been a horrible look for Deshaun Watson not
to at least sit down and meet with an African
American coach. And he doesn't have to say he wants
to stay in Houston, which he didn't, but I'm glad
he at least gave him the respect of meeting with him.
But in the meeting, Rob, he did tell David Culley,
(36:11):
the coach, that he has no intentions of ever suiting
up again for the Houston Texans. So they have still
publicly at least said that they're not gonna trade him,
but he's making it clear that this thing is gonna
come down. It's kind of like Bucky Brooks said a
Game of Chicken. Where do you think about this? Yeah,
(36:33):
I think that's the only thing. If you're Houston and
you're dead set against trading him, then I would force
him force his hand. And basically he's not gonna come
up with the twenty seven million and give it back.
He's not going to retire or not play for a
year to become a free agent, so he would be forced.
So I guess I would just write it out. I
think Bucky Brooks is right. If they were against it,
(36:54):
I wouldn't keep a guy who didn't want to be around, right.
If they want to force his hand, that's the only
way you can do it. And I think he's right
for him to have to write a check for twenty
seven million dollars to give the money back. Is that
how it would work? Rob G? Do you know I
mean he get retired than yes. Yes. If he's saying
(37:20):
I'm not reporting and he didn't officially retire, he would
have to give him the money back. They would find
him until they couldn't find him anymore. You have to
give the money back because he's not and then the contract.
Which Now, now, let me ask you this. If he retires,
let's say you know, he retires, obviously still wants to
play football, but he retires, how long do they hold
the rights to him? A couple of years Because that
(37:42):
happened with Barry Sanders, the Lions still had his rights.
Once he retired, Barry had to give money back to
the Lions. Um so I don't know how many exactly years.
I know he's got the four years. Yeah, he had
his rights for at least like three years. I think
I don't remember exactly. I could be wrong on the years,
but I know I wonder if it be the whole contract,
(38:04):
you know, because they do have leverage. They do have leverage.
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