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NBA and uh, I guess the team you grew up
rooting for, correct New York Knicks. Yeah, I mean I
grew up in New York and back then there was
the Nets didn't count. That was the only team because
you didn't have to pick. Now, you're a little older
than me. So when you in the seventies before the
merger between ABA and NBA, obviously Doctor J was playing
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with the Nets leading him the championships. Was were they
on your radar? No? No, ABA wasn't on our radar.
That was even before me. It was always about the Knicks.
So the Nets, the New York Nets back then really
didn't figure in. People had to pick between the met
and Yankees, the Jets and Giants, uh, the Islanders and
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the Rangers. But but it was it was never a
pick for basketball. The Knicks owned the town basically by themselves.
Well rob uh, they still owned the town. And you know,
I'm here in Jersey. I'm essentially a suburban New York. Basically,
it's the Greater New York area. I'm thirty minutes away
from Manhattan and the Knicks people. I'm telling you listening
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to the radio sports talk radio in New York and
they've actually discussed this here. They're like, look, the Nets
have three of that absolute best players in basketball, three
of the top ten or whatever whatever you want. Yeah,
I mean wherever you put Kyrie certainly hardened and Kde
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or top five or six U Kyrie, some might say
top ten, certainly top fifteen, and they have a legitimate
chance to win a championship. That would be the first
NBA championship in New York. Professional basketball robs in nineteen
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seventy three when the Knicks won it. And still people
are more excited about the New York Knicks being eighteen
and seventeen. All right, they won last night and fans,
you know, now they can go to the games. It
was like two thousand fans at the game. They're out
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robbed in the streets, No lie, in the streets of Manhattan, dancing, prancing,
frolicking like Mick Jager and David Bowie when you need them. Yes,
rob they are celebrating like the Knicks actually did something
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because they're a game over five hundred. And here's what
I want to throw at you, because I'm not you know,
I'm not from New York. I came to New York
and was baffled, baffled by how huge knicks are. But
you gotta remember this, like like like like I said, Hey,
they had no other competition right in the city, and
people of basketball fans in New York people love going
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about it. Yeah, because here, here's the question I want
to throw at you. Is the fact that they have
three all time great players, three clear cut Hall of
famers on one team let's and they're more excited about
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a team of all soul rands who are barely above
five hundred. Is that sad or is that admirable? Because
this is like you got Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Will
Chamberlain there, and you'd rather watch you know, Swin Nater
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and the crew because that's your team. I mean, I'm
just throwing it out there. It's just a discussion. I
think it's right. I think it's a combination. First of all,
I don't believe people are just gonna give up their
team because the other team in town got good. It's
like the Lakers and Clippers, they got more than good.
Rob you no, no, no, no, no, I got that.
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But I'm just saying, but some of the numbers that
we've seen Chris TV Waitings wise have shown that. I
mean that was a while ago, and there turn about
that on the radio. Two their level since the MSG's
been demolishing them, They're like they yeah, they mocked that.
They were like, oh yes, yes, put that out there,
like you know, they trying to do something and they
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included national games, which obviously made a different. They couldn't
know that's what they were saying on the radio. And
then they were like ever since then, MSG's been crushing Yeah.
I just I don't expect people to give up their
lifelong allegiances Chris overnight. I mean, I don't. I'm not
saying that if I'm a basketball fan in New York,
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would I turn and watch the Nets as well, even
if I was a Knick fan or the Knicks. And
it tells you how sad the Knicks franchise has been.
I mean, let's just be honest, right, so bad that
people are celebrating being one game under five hundred as
if they've done something one game over five hundred. Gim sorry.
So it's to me, it's sad that that that's your
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that's where you think, um, where you should be excited
about or you should be worked up and feeling good
about an organization that's done a lot bad and just
had with with ownership, with all the hiring. It ain't
like they're running away with anything. And I looked at
their record. Two Uh, it's that they're about five hundred,
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five hundred against the good teams, Chris, and five hundred
against the bad teams. That's that's really where they are.
Um So I think it told you the state of
the Knicks, where they are, and how desperate people are
just to feel decent or feel good because they've been
so bad. Yeah. I And what baffled me when I
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got to New York robe Because every city loves its team,
especially a basketball seam. I get that, But my thing
was New Yorkers and Rob this has been this is
born out every time there's a big time free agent.
Maybe now they finally learn their lesson that they're not
getting that guy or they're certainly not getting most of
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those guys. But whether it started with we actually it
started before Lebron, but we got Lebron, we got you know, uh,
Kevin Durant. You know, every time a big name free
agent comes up, the Knicks think they're getting him, and
they failed every time. And when I was covering the team.
Grant Hill, Chris Webber, those guys were free agents, and
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even though the Knicks didn't have the cap room to
get them, people swore they're gonna do something. If they
just get the cap room, these guys will come. They
felt like every player grew up wanting to play for
the Knicks. And I guess I can get it. From
the standpoint rob Oh, this is our biggest city in
the country, right, So you would think, right, you would
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think if I'm in Italy, I'm thinking everybody wants to
be in Rome. Right. I'm not thinking they like Milan better,
or they might play in Milan or some other places.
I'm thinking they want to get to Rome. But you know,
I didn't grow up in New York. I grew up
in the Midwest for the most part. And the Knicks,
to me, they were like the twelfth team I thought
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of when it came to the NBA. Not no exaggeration.
And so they're not the Cowboys, they're not the Lakers,
they're not the Yankees, you know what I mean. They're
not one of these national teams. But people in New
York seemed to think they are. No, it's a it's
a I agree with that. It's a combination of uh,
the old time fans, Madison Square Garden, which is a
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great place to watch a game. Chris. You cover games,
I cover games. The best part about Madison Square Garden
it's like you're at a movie, like you're at a
Broadway show. The house, the seats are dark, and the
stage right the court Chris is lit up well and
they're stars and celebrities. All right, yeah, but you know
what I mean. But but the way you watch the
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game in the dark like you would watch a Broadway show.
Most arenas are not like that. They're lit. The whole
place is lit. It's really unique and it's a big deal.
And I think you know, New York has had from
those Nick teams that they love Chris in the seventies
forty years ago. They're still living off of that because
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they don't they haven't had anything now. Patrick Ewen went
to the finals twice. They went to a game seven
against Houston. Remember John Stark shot three eighteen or whatever.
I think it was two p eighteen and including one
different and he's obviously viewed as an all time great
Hall of Famer and all that, But think how different
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Patrick Ewing's legacy would be if they had won that game. Oh,
big time, you know that big time? And if you
remember they lost by about six, Chris, I want to
say four or six. It was a close game and
your two guards choose two phra eighteen like normally you're cooked. Yep,
And that's how close they were. And it was game
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seven and it was in Houston. But yeah, I think
it's sad that people are celebrating a one game over
five hundred as if they've achieved something. And then you
look at some of the other teams. There still another
half of a season to go. Am I convinced that
Toronto when some of these teams Chris, Miami, Boston's behind
the guy think they get Boston, Miami and what else?
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And Toronto? Are they gonna be behind the Knicks. I'm
not sure when the season is over that they don't
get their second winning play better than the second half,
they could still not make the playoffs. They're not like
they absolutely got cushion or something right. Absolutely, Indiana's behind
them too, Like the Knicks are the fourth seed, which
you know that's nice, but you gotta keep it in
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perspective and Rob and I say this too as a
basketball fan, and I get that that's your team, and
I'm again, I'm different. I moved around a lot, you
know this, So I never I was in Indianapolis with
the Pacers, but I wasn't a Pacers fan. So because
I moved around a lot, I never got attached to
like one. So you never had a team. Well I
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had teams, but they were national like. So when I
was really young, I liked Doctor Jay, so I liked
the seventy sixers, and then I became a huge Magic
Magic Johnson became my favorite player. So then I liked
the Lakers, and then Jordan became my favorite player, and
I was with Jordan, so you know what I'm saying.
So I'm not. I wasn't with one team. Indiana and
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is the only city I even lived in Indianapolis, they
had had a basketbol other than Cleveland. I got to Cleveland,
you know, in high school. See, when I was a kid,
it was it was about the Knicks. I remember going
to Madison Square Garden with my uncle's and everything, and
it was just a big thrill. Chris, you know what
I mean, to go to Madison Square Garden as a
kid to a basketball game. It was just it was
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so I was like a Knicks, Islanders, Mets, and Jets fans.
That's what I was as a kid. I don't root
for anybody now, but that's what I was as a kid,
and the Knicks were a big part. I watched every
single game as a kid. They used to come on
Channel nine, Chris. They didn't come on every night. So
when a Nick game came on TV, right, I watched
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every single minute of it. They didn't come on. Every
game wasn't on. All these kids today are spoil Oh
yeah that every game is on. Absolutely, we didn't get it.
The game wasn't on. Weekends were big to watch games,
you know. And yeah, I'm just saying, like if I'm
a real and I'm not saying New York is obviously
they're real basketball fans. But I'm sorry, I can't ignore
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what's going on in Brooklyn. And you might not root
for him, but the fact rob that they're we're in
a bat I'm in a basketball city, New York, and
they're not talking about Brooklyn for the most part. On
the radio, I got Kevin Durant, who could be you know,
a top twelve fifteen player of all time. James Harden
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might be in there too, Top fifteen, Top twenty, and
I got Kyrie Irving, another future Hall of Famer who's
one of the most exciting players we've ever seen, best
ball handler ever. And I'm not talking a lot about
Brooklyn on the radio. I'm just saying, like, it doesn't
get any better than Rob You know this, you you're
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this could be one of the We'll see what they do,
but potentially this could be one of the best teams
we've ever seen, no doubt. I don't know how you
could be. Maybe, I mean I think something. It's hard.
Habits are hard to break, and maybe not until the
Knicks really fall out of it, Chris or whatever it is,
and then you realize. But I agree, this is not
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just an all soul, This is not just not just
a good average Nets are good the average NETS team,
I agree with you. Then the conversation would still be
what's wrong with the Knicks? How can we fix the Knicks?
When they're gonna get rid of the coach, were they're
gonna get a free agent? You know, like those are
the storylines were bad teams. But I don't know how
they're how they're not giving the Nets more when the
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Nets are in Brooklyn now they wear New York jersey anybody.
And remember when we had Harvey Aarton, the great New
York Times columnists only remember that a few weeks ago,
and we asked him about the Nets, Yeah, answered it,
you know, but then he ended up bringing up the Knicks,
remember that, and talking about how excited everybody was about
Julius Randall and the Knicks. And we're like, wait a minute, dude,
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Knicks Knicks fans excitement over their mediocre Knicks teams versus
being whole hum about their great Nets team. Is that
sad or admirable? Let's go to Caleb in Brooklyn, Chris.
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He's on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio, right
in the belly of the beast, so to speak. What
do you got Caleb? Hey, Rob, how you doing. I'm
from I live in Brooklyn. Um, I just want to say,
real quick, I've been to your nephew's barbershop, a great
place to be really appreciate, appreciate his business. And Chris,
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I'm a believer and I just wanted to I appreciate
your witness too. Thank you, Thank you. I'm definitely gonna
be at the King's conference. But real quickly, Hey, that
that's very nice for you to say both things. And
my nephew, Alvin, his barbershop is called the Fade Game
in Jabacica Queen's. Yes, yeah, a great place, great place,
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A real quick You know, I'm a lifelong Knicks fan, um,
and I understand that it is sad m our excitement,
but you gotta give us some leverage. The truth of
the matter is, and Rob, you noticed, being from New York,
as the Knicks of the varsity team, Uh, the Nets
will always always be the jb And it's not just
the Knicks. That's the way it is with the Yankees
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and the Mets, the Rangers over the Islands, the Giants
over the Jets. You know, their their first tier. And
I would have I don't feel I gotta be honest.
And again I'm not from New York, but being here,
I don't feel like any of them are this lop sided. Obviously,
the Yankees are the team in New York. But when
the Mets are good, they get love, and when the
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Jets are good, they get love. You know what I'm saying.
Like when when when the Mets had Strawberry Gooden than them,
Chris and they were going to the playoffs day, Remember
like yeah, So I'm just like, come on, man, this
isn't this could be a historically great team. This isn't yet.
So the Nets are good. Nets are better than the Knicks. No, No,
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they're like awesome. Yes, you guys, I mean you guys
could have covered everybody nationally. I always imagine it would
be a kin to what it's like in LA between
the Lakers and the Clippers. Yeah, but here's the difference.
Here's the difference. The Lakers have seventeen championships. Sorry, and
the Clippers haven't been to the Western Conference final, right
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and the Knicks, I mean, you can't compare the Knicks
to the the Lakers. That's ridiculous. You are thinking about
Dave saying. I'm just saying, no, I get why La
La Lakers fans are like, yo, No, I don't care
what the Clippers do. You know what I say, I
don't care what the Clippers do. Clippers can win the
next three championships, they still won't be even close to
the Lakers, you know, no, no doubt. All right, let's
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go to good explanation somebody, Tony and DC, you're on
the eye, a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Tony Fellas was good? The Parkersportunias in the house once again, Man,
I want you this clue with Chris, I do enjoy
listen you talk about your faith and how you came
about your faith in your life and what you're doing
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with the Kingman, I comming you, my brother, are you
trying to give me all this love? Go ahead, for
that's how you give me. You need to do, Rob,
you need to do a show where you go to
different dives and and local bars, because man, you'll be
eating good my brother. Oh look always. That's what I
want to say, is what New York with the It's
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a it's a generational thing. Like when Rob was a kid,
the Nicks on Saturday Night they played Get a couple
of Pies or fried Chicken. So it's passed there from
generation of the team. And Cowboys it's like the Cowboys
in Texas. No, it ain't like now. It's like the
Cowboys now. Cowboys you on New York and a generational thing.
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And when you look at the Cowboys, they've won three
playoff games, but the three in the last it's not
quite as bad as the Knicks. But yeah, yeah, it's
I mean the Cowboys though, did have a great run.
I mean, I guess you can say the Knicks one
two champions and I don't want to upset Knicks fans,
rob but when they won their two championships, half of
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the best players in the world, we're in the ABA
and you know that. The other part is I think
they still had lasers on the basketball back then. Right. Oh,
I'm sorry, Hey, let's go to Ham. Let's go to hand.
Alex is sleeping at the wheel. I mean, come on, Alex,
that's you. I'm just waiting on you to get a
good one. I was waiting for the note Everything's not
fun one too much right now from hitting that was
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worn out? That tape is free Ham in New Jersey.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's
up Ham? What's up? Fellows? How y'all doing? Man, We're good?
How are you now? You in Jersey? All right, let's
hear what you got to say. I love the fact
that the New Yorkers are very proud and they love
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their necks. And I just think because the Nets are
originally from Jersey that they really they really can't come
into New York and get the fans like that because
New Yorkers are not faked. They won't buy into it. Now,
let the Nets win. But Let's be honest. If if
they were let's say they were a um, they just
started up, you know, they were expansion, the expansion team.
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I don't think they have any more fans than they
do that probably a little bit more. But I just
think you gotta win and then everybody's gonna jump on
the badwagon, just like the Warriors that. But you know what, Hamlet,
let me tell you this. I think that the Knick
fans are kidding themselves from one standpoint that there are
ten twelve year olds, fourteen year olds right in New York.
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If the Nets win and it's exciting or whatever, they
have a chance to flip people, not the older people
who grew up with the Knicks or whatever. But there
is a there is an opening there, Chris, because you
know how all those little kids went crazy for Steph Curry, right,
all right, they will go there was never anything special,
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no golden stated on the seventies two. Yeah, right right now.
And that's the thing, right, I mean, obviously, sports talk radio,
the newspapers, you're not really getting to read on the
young kids. You That's what I'm saying, right, They're not
reading the paper, they're not listening to sports they're not
calling it, they're not calling in right, and nobody's catering
to him, you know, the people on the radio aren't
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catering to him. So but do you think that, Yeah,
I would think so. I would think I mean, honestly,
I would think so. I mean, if I'm a twelve
year old kid, even if my dad. Now granted, your
dad's got to influence over you, so maybe like the Knicks,
but even so, you're still like Pops, the Nets are awesome.
I want a Kyrie Irving Jersey. I wanted Kevin Durant
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or you know what I mean, like right, and that
they have all the other things too, like like Manasa
Square guards a great place. But Brooklyn is beautiful. It's
times actually, it's state of the Artists. It's a night
and it's right downtown Brooklyn. You could get there from anywhere.
Chris Well, one thing that's gonna happen rob is come
playoff time because the Knicks, even if they make it,
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they'll be out early and then it's gonna be about
the Nets. It's just gonna have to be. That's what
the coverage is gonna be. So we will see, all right,
we got our man Howard back coming out from Sports Illustrated.
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Good friend of ours our man, Howard Beck. What's up, brother?
How are you my friends? How are you doing well?
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It's great to have you on my man. Now, let
me ask you, Howard, because we were just talking about this.
Do you still live in Brooklyn still? Absolutely? Carol Gardens, Okay,
come on tell them Howard. So we were we but
you're from LA right? Uh No, I love to confuse people. Um,
I'm actually from San Jose, California. Uh, but yes, I
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spent right. Well. So, so here's what we're talking about, Howard,
because I'm I'm here in Jersey, so obviously Greater New York.
And we were talking about how even though you have
this potentially historic team in Brooklyn with the Nets, people
in New York are still more excited about this mediocre
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Knicks team then they are about these three Hall of
Famers on the Nets? Am I reading it wrong? I
think I'm reading it right? And why what do you
make of that? Well, it's probably right. But the big qualifier,
of course is I don't ever leave my house. How
do I know what anybody's excited about. I'm talking about radio?
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And you know the fans were dancing in the streets yesterday.
It's always been a nick town, so right, how yeah, no, listen. UM.
I can't remember when it was several years ago, and
I think it was like a Google heat mapper. It
was one of these where like you could see um
across the country and even county by county, I think,
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like where the allegiances were based on most Googled team right,
like most Google and like the Nets had a very
very very small percentage, even within Brooklyn, which is where
I am and which is where that team is based.
And of course it's the biggest borrow in New York
with two and a half million people, and this is
still next country. And the fact is, you know, look again,
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I have no way to gauge this, right, This is
a problem with when we have these discussions. There's no
there's no like local gallup poll there's no like everybody
doesn't have like a flag declaring one way or the other,
Nixter Nets, Like, there's no way to actually measure this.
There's ratings, which the Nets have done pretty well, especially
when they've had national games, but there's only kind of
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word of mouth and observation and conversation, and those things
are best assessed when we actually are in sports bars
and barbershops and on the streets and whatever, and like
nobody is in any of those places. I certainly am
in none of those places right now. So it's like
how the Nets with Harden, Durant and Kyrie are rating
right now with New York sports fans, and whether this
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is giving the Nets a boost that they've never had
since they first arrived in this borough in twenty twelve.
I don't know. It's a it's a really really hard
thing to gauge. I will say that, um, you know,
obviously from an NBA perspective, you know, people are intrigued, excited,
right love watching the Nets right the right They might
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be bigger nationally than there are locally. But by the way,
that was what I observed about the Clippers during that
Lob City era. Like I always thought like if Lob
City had happened in Seattle, right, they would have been
a huge deal. But because they were in LA they
were a big national NBA team, but not a big
local team. They still couldn't, like knock the Lakers off
the cover of the LA Times. I suspect the same
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as here in New York with the tabs, but I
don't read the tabs, so I don't know, right. How
about the NBA Allstar Games coming up in Atlanta? There
was voices from some big name players including Lebron, James
and Janis and that they really Coi Leonard, that they
weren't that down with the All Star Is this going
to be a disaster? People going to sleep walk through this? Well?
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Is this going to be worth watching? Well, you're asking
the wrong person, because I don't think the All Star
Game is ever worth watching or very rarely, and it
really hasn't been for a long time. Were Chris and
I both agree with you on that? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
yere got a little better with the new form, it's
gotten worse. You're right, it's been horrible the last ten
(29:28):
years or so. Yeah, Like last year was fun? Um
can they manufacture that again? And especially now this year
we'll see and you know, you guys know how this goes.
The Dunk Contest. Every couple of years or every year,
we say it's over, there'll never be another great one again,
and then every so often we get like Aaron Gordon
versus Zach Levine and it brings it back to life
and we go, okay, new lease on life to the
(29:50):
Dunk Contest. And then we get another couple of dunt
years and we're got, oh man, this thing's tired. It's
played out. So I'll never write off the Dunk Contest,
but we do know that it's cyclic and that you
you often have to go through a few bad years
to get to a really memorable one. So the fact
that it's in the pandemic, and the fact that it's
like no fans or a limited fans, I guess, the
(30:11):
fact that some players, notable stars, were not thrilled to
be going there, it all has an impact. But look,
the players as a whole. The union wanted this, even
if some players spoke out against that, the union pushed
in favor of this. It's money for all four hundred
and fifty players because it all goes into basketball related
income BRI which is split fifty fifty with the players
(30:32):
and owners. So whether the All Stars themselves will give
it they're all on Sunday, I'm skeptical, but like I
say that, it's not like most years most of them
give it. They're all for the whole game anyway. I
think they'll try to do their best. Benefit of the doubt,
they'll compete down the stretch at least and make the
fourth quarter interesting. How let's go back to the nets.
(30:55):
What do you think of are there chances are really
putting this thing to gather and winning the championship this year?
I don't like the obviously durance hurt, so we get that.
I don't really like the Kyrie sitting out a game
every two weeks it seems, which I don't think he's
injured or anything like that, but but you're not a doctor,
and you haven't like to see him play a little
(31:17):
more together. But what do you think about their chances of,
you know, putting this thing together and winning it this year? Well,
the East is kind of top heavy and then there's
this massive drop off, right, so like the East still
blows overall. I mean, there's a reason that the Knicks
can be in fourth place with being a game over five,
they'd be ninth. They'd be ninth in the West. So
(31:37):
the East is kind of a mess. Yeah, I think Toronto,
Miami you'll get back into it. I think Boston will
get back into it. We'll see if Indie can recover,
like some of those teams were making it really interesting
last couple of years with it being you know, three,
four or five way race. Right now it feels like
three teams, Milwaukee, Philly in Brooklyn and it may just
end up as those three. And Milwaukee and Philly are
way ahead of Brooklyn in terms of defense and in
(32:00):
terms of just I think cohesiveness, continuity. They've been together longer,
and maybe that might matter too. On the other hand,
we've never had three players as gifted offensively, as dynamic
offensively on the same team as this Brooklyn team, like
you could put them up against any trio in NBA history,
And whether that's enough to offset the lack of size,
(32:22):
the lack of depth, the lack of defense. We'll see,
Like the defense has been better over the last few weeks,
but we still haven't seen them with Durant and he
should actually strengthen that part of it, and I you know,
I guess it's going to be a case of if
they can just become like average defensively and historically amazing offensively.
Like you don't want to be a team that's trying
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to get to the finish line with a five point
lead with less than three minutes to go against those
three guys. But like if the nets, if the game
is close, those guys have the advantage every time, and
that's what they're banking on because the don't have that
guy and the Sixers probably don't have that guy, and
then let's have three of them, right right, that's our man,
(33:07):
go ahead, Yeah, we got about a minute left. Okay, No,
I was just gonna say real quick. And the other
part is your team's making twos and then making threes. Yeah,
there's a big difference as well with the nets. All right,
Howard Beck, Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer and co host
of the Crossover podcast, make sure you check that out.
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So let's get started, guys. Story number one. I don't
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because I like him today. He's a nice guy. He
paid up his bet. He paid up his bet. Unlike
what bet yep, what bet the Lakers Clippers bet from
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(34:54):
the one where they never played Lakers Clippers bet when
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I did send you. Wow, I'm glad you remembered all
those that gift card. I said, yeah, that was for
something else, Chris, what was it for? What was I
can't say it on the air the restaurant. You guys
at the restaurant. No, well for week stop or you
(35:16):
from week stop? He send it to me. Yeah, but
I can't see on the air when it was flat.
Because we're all get in trouble again. That'd be the
last gift card you get from me. I'm trying to
give you a shout out to Rob Parker. You make
it all person, got yours. It's all good. Thank you, Rob.
So you get the first crack of this one. My
sources say that a rooster with a three inch blade
(35:38):
strapped to its leg slashed the bystanderd during an illegal
cockfighting event hosted by former NFL punter Marquette King over
the weekend. My source is good. This is for me, right,
this is for you, Rob. I'm gonna say that that
is true. Yeah, that's a lot to make up. My
(35:59):
good I think that's true. You sit on a throne
of somebody else did uh Well, there was in a
legal event. It took place in India where a guy died,
but it would not involve Marquette King. Okay, but yeah,
why you put Marquette up in there? See some people
go here that and think they're gonna be like, Yo,
did you hear about Marquette King? They only heard a
(36:20):
little bit of All right, here we go story number two.
Nobody on the board yet. My sources say that Jody
Foster won the Golden Globe for Best Actress in a
Supporting Role on Sunday and actually thanked Aaron Rodgers for
whatever reason. Her acceptance speech Chris, and my source is good.
M Wow, Uh, I think that's false. I'm gonna say
(36:48):
that's true. That's too out of left field. Aaron Rodgers
had some beautiful balls. Oh, Jodi Foster, Rob Parker, what
does she think for? We know she doesn't say. She
lists a bunch of people and she says, oh and
Aaron Rodgers. So I have no idea why she does
crazy out of nowhere? Can you imagine that? Wow? That's great?
(37:09):
All right here we go, married too. He is getting married.
You know, he had a couple of big time girlfriends
and finally looks like you found somebody with another celebrity,
so right, his last two Yes, it was an actress,
and then it was a race car driver, and now
we went back to a race card driver. You couldn't
say Danny Kapatrick. Well, I mean, does she win? She's
(37:32):
well known, but does she win? That's like calling you know,
James Harden. He's a basketball player. No, it's James hard
you know what I'm saying, Like she's name recognition. Yes,
he was with Danny Kapatrick for a considerable amount of time.
And speaking to the nets, Kyrie is growing the afro
like he looks like he's getting real. He's going, Yeah,
it looks like he's going for a real afro. And
(37:54):
by the way, apologies to Shaleene Woodley. Apparently she doesn't
deserve Ray mcknition on this show either. That's New Fiance's
h Shanny Woodley. Shyleen Woodley Up, Yeah, I've never heard
of her. I'm just saying racist. All right, here we go.
Number three. Rob Parker up wanted anohing my sort to
say that a Luca Donsche's rookie card, which features the
(38:15):
NBA logo man patch from a game. Warren Jersey plus
his signature just sold for four point six million dollars,
making it the most expensive NBA card ever purchased. Rob
Parker up. So this is good. I know it always
sounds ridiculous, but the way that they're doing with these cards,
(38:36):
and I can't get over the baseball cards being sold
in NBA and Lebron and all that. I'm gonna say
it's true. I know it's four point six million. I mean,
look it. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm gonna say false, but
that just sounds crazy. Oh it's Chris, I believe man.
(38:57):
You know I actually wanted to hear this song. It's
in months. You said that, lid. You said that Friday
when we played it. What are you talking about? We
didn't get enough about the weekend. It was a truncated
version on Friday. So now I'm feeling it good. Jam
Let it please, my man, let it breathe. I'm coming
from the Wallings. That's my city, that's my state, Louisiana.
(39:23):
You ain't from the wall down the Pelicans, Daisiana. Baton
Rouge into his house at keep it lied. Nobody asked
on you what I was doing. Nobody Bruce Hards
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(01:32):
NBA and uh, I guess the team you grew up
rooting for, correct New York Knicks. Yeah, I mean I
grew up in New York and back then there was
the Nets didn't count. That was the only team because
you didn't have to pick. Now, you're a little older
than me. So when you in the seventies before the
merger between ABA and NBA, obviously Doctor J was playing
(01:55):
with the Nets leading him the championships. Was were they
on your radar? No? No, ABA wasn't on our radar.
That was even before me. It was always about the Knicks.
So the Nets, the New York Nets back then really
didn't figure in. People had to pick between the met
and Yankees, the Jets and Giants, uh, the Islanders and
(02:17):
the Rangers. But but it was it was never a
pick for basketball. The Knicks owned the town basically by themselves.
Well rob uh, they still owned the town. And you know,
I'm here in Jersey. I'm essentially a suburban New York. Basically,
it's the Greater New York area. I'm thirty minutes away
from Manhattan and the Knicks people. I'm telling you listening
(02:41):
to the radio sports talk radio in New York and
they've actually discussed this here. They're like, look, the Nets
have three of that absolute best players in basketball, three
of the top ten or whatever whatever you want. Yeah,
I mean wherever you put Kyrie certainly hardened and Kde
(03:01):
or top five or six U Kyrie, some might say
top ten, certainly top fifteen, and they have a legitimate
chance to win a championship. That would be the first
NBA championship in New York. Professional basketball robs in nineteen
(03:22):
seventy three when the Knicks won it. And still people
are more excited about the New York Knicks being eighteen
and seventeen. All right, they won last night and fans,
you know, now they can go to the games. It
was like two thousand fans at the game. They're out
(03:45):
robbed in the streets, No lie, in the streets of Manhattan, dancing, prancing,
frolicking like Mick Jager and David Bowie when you need them. Yes,
rob they are celebrating like the Knicks actually did something
(04:08):
because they're a game over five hundred. And here's what
I want to throw at you, because I'm not you know,
I'm not from New York. I came to New York
and was baffled, baffled by how huge knicks are. But
you gotta remember this, like like like like I said, Hey,
they had no other competition right in the city, and
people of basketball fans in New York people love going
(04:30):
about it. Yeah, because here, here's the question I want
to throw at you. Is the fact that they have
three all time great players, three clear cut Hall of
famers on one team let's and they're more excited about
(04:50):
a team of all soul rands who are barely above
five hundred. Is that sad or is that admirable? Because
this is like you got Jerry West, Elgin Baylor, Will
Chamberlain there, and you'd rather watch you know, Swin Nater
(05:11):
and the crew because that's your team. I mean, I'm
just throwing it out there. It's just a discussion. I
think it's right. I think it's a combination. First of all,
I don't believe people are just gonna give up their
team because the other team in town got good. It's
like the Lakers and Clippers, they got more than good.
Rob you no, no, no, no, no, I got that.
(05:32):
But I'm just saying, but some of the numbers that
we've seen Chris TV Waitings wise have shown that. I
mean that was a while ago, and there turn about
that on the radio. Two their level since the MSG's
been demolishing them, They're like they yeah, they mocked that.
They were like, oh yes, yes, put that out there,
like you know, they trying to do something and they
(05:53):
included national games, which obviously made a different. They couldn't
know that's what they were saying on the radio. And
then they were like ever since then, MSG's been crushing Yeah.
I just I don't expect people to give up their
lifelong allegiances Chris overnight. I mean, I don't. I'm not
saying that if I'm a basketball fan in New York,
(06:15):
would I turn and watch the Nets as well, even
if I was a Knick fan or the Knicks. And
it tells you how sad the Knicks franchise has been.
I mean, let's just be honest, right, so bad that
people are celebrating being one game under five hundred as
if they've done something one game over five hundred. Gim sorry.
So it's to me, it's sad that that that's your
(06:36):
that's where you think, um, where you should be excited
about or you should be worked up and feeling good
about an organization that's done a lot bad and just
had with with ownership, with all the hiring. It ain't
like they're running away with anything. And I looked at
their record. Two Uh, it's that they're about five hundred,
(06:58):
five hundred against the good teams, Chris, and five hundred
against the bad teams. That's that's really where they are.
Um So I think it told you the state of
the Knicks, where they are, and how desperate people are
just to feel decent or feel good because they've been
so bad. Yeah. I And what baffled me when I
(07:19):
got to New York robe Because every city loves its team,
especially a basketball seam. I get that, But my thing
was New Yorkers and Rob this has been this is
born out every time there's a big time free agent.
Maybe now they finally learn their lesson that they're not
getting that guy or they're certainly not getting most of
(07:41):
those guys. But whether it started with we actually it
started before Lebron, but we got Lebron, we got you know, uh,
Kevin Durant. You know, every time a big name free
agent comes up, the Knicks think they're getting him, and
they failed every time. And when I was covering the team.
Grant Hill, Chris Webber, those guys were free agents, and
(08:04):
even though the Knicks didn't have the cap room to
get them, people swore they're gonna do something. If they
just get the cap room, these guys will come. They
felt like every player grew up wanting to play for
the Knicks. And I guess I can get it. From
the standpoint rob Oh, this is our biggest city in
the country, right, So you would think, right, you would
(08:26):
think if I'm in Italy, I'm thinking everybody wants to
be in Rome. Right. I'm not thinking they like Milan better,
or they might play in Milan or some other places.
I'm thinking they want to get to Rome. But you know,
I didn't grow up in New York. I grew up
in the Midwest for the most part. And the Knicks,
to me, they were like the twelfth team I thought
(08:48):
of when it came to the NBA. Not no exaggeration.
And so they're not the Cowboys, they're not the Lakers,
they're not the Yankees, you know what I mean. They're
not one of these national teams. But people in New
York seemed to think they are. No, it's a it's
a I agree with that. It's a combination of uh,
the old time fans, Madison Square Garden, which is a
(09:10):
great place to watch a game. Chris. You cover games,
I cover games. The best part about Madison Square Garden
it's like you're at a movie, like you're at a
Broadway show. The house, the seats are dark, and the
stage right the court Chris is lit up well and
they're stars and celebrities. All right, yeah, but you know
what I mean. But but the way you watch the
(09:31):
game in the dark like you would watch a Broadway show.
Most arenas are not like that. They're lit. The whole
place is lit. It's really unique and it's a big deal.
And I think you know, New York has had from
those Nick teams that they love Chris in the seventies
forty years ago. They're still living off of that because
(09:54):
they don't they haven't had anything now. Patrick Ewen went
to the finals twice. They went to a game seven
against Houston. Remember John Stark shot three eighteen or whatever.
I think it was two p eighteen and including one
different and he's obviously viewed as an all time great
Hall of Famer and all that, But think how different
(10:14):
Patrick Ewing's legacy would be if they had won that game. Oh,
big time, you know that big time? And if you
remember they lost by about six, Chris, I want to
say four or six. It was a close game and
your two guards choose two phra eighteen like normally you're cooked. Yep,
And that's how close they were. And it was game
(10:36):
seven and it was in Houston. But yeah, I think
it's sad that people are celebrating a one game over
five hundred as if they've achieved something. And then you
look at some of the other teams. There still another
half of a season to go. Am I convinced that
Toronto when some of these teams Chris, Miami, Boston's behind
the guy think they get Boston, Miami and what else?
(11:01):
And Toronto? Are they gonna be behind the Knicks. I'm
not sure when the season is over that they don't
get their second winning play better than the second half,
they could still not make the playoffs. They're not like
they absolutely got cushion or something right. Absolutely, Indiana's behind
them too, Like the Knicks are the fourth seed, which
you know that's nice, but you gotta keep it in
(11:23):
perspective and Rob and I say this too as a
basketball fan, and I get that that's your team, and
I'm again, I'm different. I moved around a lot, you
know this, So I never I was in Indianapolis with
the Pacers, but I wasn't a Pacers fan. So because
I moved around a lot, I never got attached to
like one. So you never had a team. Well I
(11:44):
had teams, but they were national like. So when I
was really young, I liked Doctor Jay, so I liked
the seventy sixers, and then I became a huge Magic
Magic Johnson became my favorite player. So then I liked
the Lakers, and then Jordan became my favorite player, and
I was with Jordan, so you know what I'm saying.
So I'm not. I wasn't with one team. Indiana and
(12:05):
is the only city I even lived in Indianapolis, they
had had a basketbol other than Cleveland. I got to Cleveland,
you know, in high school. See, when I was a kid,
it was it was about the Knicks. I remember going
to Madison Square Garden with my uncle's and everything, and
it was just a big thrill. Chris, you know what
I mean, to go to Madison Square Garden as a
kid to a basketball game. It was just it was
(12:29):
so I was like a Knicks, Islanders, Mets, and Jets fans.
That's what I was as a kid. I don't root
for anybody now, but that's what I was as a kid,
and the Knicks were a big part. I watched every
single game as a kid. They used to come on
Channel nine, Chris. They didn't come on every night. So
when a Nick game came on TV, right, I watched
(12:50):
every single minute of it. They didn't come on. Every
game wasn't on. All these kids today are spoil Oh
yeah that every game is on. Absolutely, we didn't get it.
The game wasn't on. Weekends were big to watch games,
you know. And yeah, I'm just saying, like if I'm
a real and I'm not saying New York is obviously
they're real basketball fans. But I'm sorry, I can't ignore
(13:16):
what's going on in Brooklyn. And you might not root
for him, but the fact rob that they're we're in
a bat I'm in a basketball city, New York, and
they're not talking about Brooklyn for the most part. On
the radio, I got Kevin Durant, who could be you know,
a top twelve fifteen player of all time. James Harden
(13:39):
might be in there too, Top fifteen, Top twenty, and
I got Kyrie Irving, another future Hall of Famer who's
one of the most exciting players we've ever seen, best
ball handler ever. And I'm not talking a lot about
Brooklyn on the radio. I'm just saying, like, it doesn't
get any better than Rob You know this, you you're
(14:03):
this could be one of the We'll see what they do,
but potentially this could be one of the best teams
we've ever seen, no doubt. I don't know how you
could be. Maybe, I mean I think something. It's hard.
Habits are hard to break, and maybe not until the
Knicks really fall out of it, Chris or whatever it is,
and then you realize. But I agree, this is not
(14:25):
just an all soul, This is not just not just
a good average Nets are good the average NETS team,
I agree with you. Then the conversation would still be
what's wrong with the Knicks? How can we fix the Knicks?
When they're gonna get rid of the coach, were they're
gonna get a free agent? You know, like those are
the storylines were bad teams. But I don't know how
they're how they're not giving the Nets more when the
(14:47):
Nets are in Brooklyn now they wear New York jersey anybody.
And remember when we had Harvey Aarton, the great New
York Times columnists only remember that a few weeks ago,
and we asked him about the Nets, Yeah, answered it,
you know, but then he ended up bringing up the Knicks,
remember that, and talking about how excited everybody was about
Julius Randall and the Knicks. And we're like, wait a minute, dude,
(15:10):
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Knicks Knicks fans excitement over their mediocre Knicks teams versus
being whole hum about their great Nets team. Is that
sad or admirable? Let's go to Caleb in Brooklyn, Chris.
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He's on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio, right
in the belly of the beast, so to speak. What
do you got Caleb? Hey, Rob, how you doing. I'm
from I live in Brooklyn. Um, I just want to say,
real quick, I've been to your nephew's barbershop, a great
place to be really appreciate, appreciate his business. And Chris,
(18:09):
I'm a believer and I just wanted to I appreciate
your witness too. Thank you, Thank you. I'm definitely gonna
be at the King's conference. But real quickly, Hey, that
that's very nice for you to say both things. And
my nephew, Alvin, his barbershop is called the Fade Game
in Jabacica Queen's. Yes, yeah, a great place, great place,
(18:31):
A real quick You know, I'm a lifelong Knicks fan, um,
and I understand that it is sad m our excitement,
but you gotta give us some leverage. The truth of
the matter is, and Rob, you noticed, being from New York,
as the Knicks of the varsity team, Uh, the Nets
will always always be the jb And it's not just
the Knicks. That's the way it is with the Yankees
(18:53):
and the Mets, the Rangers over the Islands, the Giants
over the Jets. You know, their their first tier. And
I would have I don't feel I gotta be honest.
And again I'm not from New York, but being here,
I don't feel like any of them are this lop sided. Obviously,
the Yankees are the team in New York. But when
the Mets are good, they get love, and when the
(19:14):
Jets are good, they get love. You know what I'm saying.
Like when when when the Mets had Strawberry Gooden than them,
Chris and they were going to the playoffs day, Remember
like yeah, So I'm just like, come on, man, this
isn't this could be a historically great team. This isn't yet.
So the Nets are good. Nets are better than the Knicks. No, No,
(19:34):
they're like awesome. Yes, you guys, I mean you guys
could have covered everybody nationally. I always imagine it would
be a kin to what it's like in LA between
the Lakers and the Clippers. Yeah, but here's the difference.
Here's the difference. The Lakers have seventeen championships. Sorry, and
the Clippers haven't been to the Western Conference final, right
(19:57):
and the Knicks, I mean, you can't compare the Knicks
to the the Lakers. That's ridiculous. You are thinking about
Dave saying. I'm just saying, no, I get why La
La Lakers fans are like, yo, No, I don't care
what the Clippers do. You know what I say, I
don't care what the Clippers do. Clippers can win the
next three championships, they still won't be even close to
the Lakers, you know, no, no doubt. All right, let's
(20:19):
go to good explanation somebody, Tony and DC, you're on
the eye, a couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
Tony Fellas was good? The Parkersportunias in the house once again, Man,
I want you this clue with Chris, I do enjoy
listen you talk about your faith and how you came
about your faith in your life and what you're doing
(20:40):
with the Kingman, I comming you, my brother, are you
trying to give me all this love? Go ahead, for
that's how you give me. You need to do, Rob,
you need to do a show where you go to
different dives and and local bars, because man, you'll be
eating good my brother. Oh look always. That's what I
want to say, is what New York with the It's
(21:00):
a it's a generational thing. Like when Rob was a kid,
the Nicks on Saturday Night they played Get a couple
of Pies or fried Chicken. So it's passed there from
generation of the team. And Cowboys it's like the Cowboys
in Texas. No, it ain't like now. It's like the
Cowboys now. Cowboys you on New York and a generational thing.
(21:27):
And when you look at the Cowboys, they've won three
playoff games, but the three in the last it's not
quite as bad as the Knicks. But yeah, yeah, it's
I mean the Cowboys though, did have a great run.
I mean, I guess you can say the Knicks one
two champions and I don't want to upset Knicks fans,
rob but when they won their two championships, half of
(21:50):
the best players in the world, we're in the ABA
and you know that. The other part is I think
they still had lasers on the basketball back then. Right. Oh,
I'm sorry, Hey, let's go to Ham. Let's go to hand.
Alex is sleeping at the wheel. I mean, come on, Alex,
that's you. I'm just waiting on you to get a
good one. I was waiting for the note Everything's not
fun one too much right now from hitting that was
(22:14):
worn out? That tape is free Ham in New Jersey.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's
up Ham? What's up? Fellows? How y'all doing? Man, We're good?
How are you now? You in Jersey? All right, let's
hear what you got to say. I love the fact
that the New Yorkers are very proud and they love
(22:34):
their necks. And I just think because the Nets are
originally from Jersey that they really they really can't come
into New York and get the fans like that because
New Yorkers are not faked. They won't buy into it. Now,
let the Nets win. But Let's be honest. If if
they were let's say they were a um, they just
started up, you know, they were expansion, the expansion team.
(22:57):
I don't think they have any more fans than they
do that probably a little bit more. But I just
think you gotta win and then everybody's gonna jump on
the badwagon, just like the Warriors that. But you know what, Hamlet,
let me tell you this. I think that the Knick
fans are kidding themselves from one standpoint that there are
ten twelve year olds, fourteen year olds right in New York.
(23:18):
If the Nets win and it's exciting or whatever, they
have a chance to flip people, not the older people
who grew up with the Knicks or whatever. But there
is a there is an opening there, Chris, because you
know how all those little kids went crazy for Steph Curry, right,
all right, they will go there was never anything special,
(23:39):
no golden stated on the seventies two. Yeah, right right now.
And that's the thing, right, I mean, obviously, sports talk radio,
the newspapers, you're not really getting to read on the
young kids. You That's what I'm saying, right, They're not
reading the paper, they're not listening to sports they're not
calling it, they're not calling in right, and nobody's catering
to him, you know, the people on the radio aren't
(24:01):
catering to him. So but do you think that, Yeah,
I would think so. I would think I mean, honestly,
I would think so. I mean, if I'm a twelve
year old kid, even if my dad. Now granted, your
dad's got to influence over you, so maybe like the Knicks,
but even so, you're still like Pops, the Nets are awesome.
I want a Kyrie Irving Jersey. I wanted Kevin Durant
(24:21):
or you know what I mean, like right, and that
they have all the other things too, like like Manasa
Square guards a great place. But Brooklyn is beautiful. It's
times actually, it's state of the Artists. It's a night
and it's right downtown Brooklyn. You could get there from anywhere.
Chris Well, one thing that's gonna happen rob is come
playoff time because the Knicks, even if they make it,
(24:42):
they'll be out early and then it's gonna be about
the Nets. It's just gonna have to be. That's what
the coverage is gonna be. So we will see, all right,
we got our man Howard back coming out from Sports Illustrated.
We will continue this conversation with him, but first, Fox
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(25:03):
Radio dot com and within the iHeart Radio app. Search
f SR to listen. Lived Rights was Sports Illustrated, a
senior NBA writer and co host of the Crossover podcast.
Good friend of ours our man, Howard Beck. What's up, brother?
How are you my friends? How are you doing well?
(25:23):
It's great to have you on my man. Now, let
me ask you, Howard, because we were just talking about this.
Do you still live in Brooklyn still? Absolutely? Carol Gardens, Okay,
come on tell them Howard. So we were we but
you're from LA right? Uh No, I love to confuse people. Um,
I'm actually from San Jose, California. Uh, but yes, I
(25:48):
spent right. Well. So, so here's what we're talking about, Howard,
because I'm I'm here in Jersey, so obviously Greater New York.
And we were talking about how even though you have
this potentially historic team in Brooklyn with the Nets, people
in New York are still more excited about this mediocre
(26:12):
Knicks team then they are about these three Hall of
Famers on the Nets? Am I reading it wrong? I
think I'm reading it right? And why what do you
make of that? Well, it's probably right. But the big qualifier,
of course is I don't ever leave my house. How
do I know what anybody's excited about. I'm talking about radio?
(26:36):
And you know the fans were dancing in the streets yesterday.
It's always been a nick town, so right, how yeah, no, listen. UM.
I can't remember when it was several years ago, and
I think it was like a Google heat mapper. It
was one of these where like you could see um
across the country and even county by county, I think,
(26:58):
like where the allegiances were based on most Googled team right,
like most Google and like the Nets had a very
very very small percentage, even within Brooklyn, which is where
I am and which is where that team is based.
And of course it's the biggest borrow in New York
with two and a half million people, and this is
still next country. And the fact is, you know, look again,
(27:18):
I have no way to gauge this, right, This is
a problem with when we have these discussions. There's no
there's no like local gallup poll there's no like everybody
doesn't have like a flag declaring one way or the other,
Nixter Nets, Like, there's no way to actually measure this.
There's ratings, which the Nets have done pretty well, especially
when they've had national games, but there's only kind of
(27:39):
word of mouth and observation and conversation, and those things
are best assessed when we actually are in sports bars
and barbershops and on the streets and whatever, and like
nobody is in any of those places. I certainly am
in none of those places right now. So it's like
how the Nets with Harden, Durant and Kyrie are rating
right now with New York sports fans, and whether this
(28:01):
is giving the Nets a boost that they've never had
since they first arrived in this borough in twenty twelve.
I don't know. It's a it's a really really hard
thing to gauge. I will say that, um, you know,
obviously from an NBA perspective, you know, people are intrigued, excited,
right love watching the Nets right the right They might
(28:24):
be bigger nationally than there are locally. But by the way,
that was what I observed about the Clippers during that
Lob City era. Like I always thought like if Lob
City had happened in Seattle, right, they would have been
a huge deal. But because they were in LA they
were a big national NBA team, but not a big
local team. They still couldn't, like knock the Lakers off
the cover of the LA Times. I suspect the same
(28:45):
as here in New York with the tabs, but I
don't read the tabs, so I don't know, right. How
about the NBA Allstar Games coming up in Atlanta? There
was voices from some big name players including Lebron, James
and Janis and that they really Coi Leonard, that they
weren't that down with the All Star Is this going
to be a disaster? People going to sleep walk through this? Well?
(29:07):
Is this going to be worth watching? Well, you're asking
the wrong person, because I don't think the All Star
Game is ever worth watching or very rarely, and it
really hasn't been for a long time. Were Chris and
I both agree with you on that? Right? Yeah? Yeah,
yere got a little better with the new form, it's
gotten worse. You're right, it's been horrible the last ten
(29:28):
years or so. Yeah, Like last year was fun? Um
can they manufacture that again? And especially now this year
we'll see and you know, you guys know how this goes.
The Dunk Contest. Every couple of years or every year,
we say it's over, there'll never be another great one again,
and then every so often we get like Aaron Gordon
versus Zach Levine and it brings it back to life
and we go, okay, new lease on life to the
(29:50):
Dunk Contest. And then we get another couple of dunt
years and we're got, oh man, this thing's tired. It's
played out. So I'll never write off the Dunk Contest,
but we do know that it's cyclic and that you
you often have to go through a few bad years
to get to a really memorable one. So the fact
that it's in the pandemic, and the fact that it's
like no fans or a limited fans, I guess, the
(30:11):
fact that some players, notable stars, were not thrilled to
be going there, it all has an impact. But look,
the players as a whole. The union wanted this, even
if some players spoke out against that, the union pushed
in favor of this. It's money for all four hundred
and fifty players because it all goes into basketball related
income BRI which is split fifty fifty with the players
(30:32):
and owners. So whether the All Stars themselves will give
it they're all on Sunday, I'm skeptical, but like I
say that, it's not like most years most of them
give it. They're all for the whole game anyway. I
think they'll try to do their best. Benefit of the doubt,
they'll compete down the stretch at least and make the
fourth quarter interesting. How let's go back to the nets.
(30:55):
What do you think of are there chances are really
putting this thing to gather and winning the championship this year?
I don't like the obviously durance hurt, so we get that.
I don't really like the Kyrie sitting out a game
every two weeks it seems, which I don't think he's
injured or anything like that, but but you're not a doctor,
and you haven't like to see him play a little
(31:17):
more together. But what do you think about their chances of,
you know, putting this thing together and winning it this year? Well,
the East is kind of top heavy and then there's
this massive drop off, right, so like the East still
blows overall. I mean, there's a reason that the Knicks
can be in fourth place with being a game over five,
they'd be ninth. They'd be ninth in the West. So
(31:37):
the East is kind of a mess. Yeah, I think Toronto,
Miami you'll get back into it. I think Boston will
get back into it. We'll see if Indie can recover,
like some of those teams were making it really interesting
last couple of years with it being you know, three,
four or five way race. Right now it feels like
three teams, Milwaukee, Philly in Brooklyn and it may just
end up as those three. And Milwaukee and Philly are
way ahead of Brooklyn in terms of defense and in
(32:00):
terms of just I think cohesiveness, continuity. They've been together longer,
and maybe that might matter too. On the other hand,
we've never had three players as gifted offensively, as dynamic
offensively on the same team as this Brooklyn team, like
you could put them up against any trio in NBA history,
And whether that's enough to offset the lack of size,
(32:22):
the lack of depth, the lack of defense. We'll see,
Like the defense has been better over the last few weeks,
but we still haven't seen them with Durant and he
should actually strengthen that part of it, and I you know,
I guess it's going to be a case of if
they can just become like average defensively and historically amazing offensively.
Like you don't want to be a team that's trying
(32:46):
to get to the finish line with a five point
lead with less than three minutes to go against those
three guys. But like if the nets, if the game
is close, those guys have the advantage every time, and
that's what they're banking on because the don't have that
guy and the Sixers probably don't have that guy, and
then let's have three of them, right right, that's our man,
(33:07):
go ahead, Yeah, we got about a minute left. Okay, No,
I was just gonna say real quick. And the other
part is your team's making twos and then making threes. Yeah,
there's a big difference as well with the nets. All right,
Howard Beck, Sports Illustrated senior NBA writer and co host
of the Crossover podcast, make sure you check that out.
(33:30):
That's our man. There's a great job covering the NBA.
Thanks my man, Pleasure fellas, thank you, all right, brother
Peace sources say his next keep it locked im. Fox
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(33:51):
to listen live. It's the Eye Couple, Chris and Rob
coming to you live from the Farmers Insurance Fox Sports
Radio Studios, Hall, Farmers Today. For a quote, it's time
for sources say check check check. Sources say, these two
(34:12):
have been covering sports for nearly three decades, apiece. I
will say this. Let's put the big JA journalist to
the test. Its sources say, that's right, it is. Sources
say the Akaba Fox Sport Radio a segment where you
put Christ and Robs combined ninety seven years of journalism
experience in the test to see if they can tell
(34:32):
the difference between a good sports source and a bad one.
So let's get started, guys. Story number one. I don't
know who want last week. People. Let Rob go first
because I like him today. He's a nice guy. He
paid up his bet. He paid up his bet. Unlike
what bet yep, what bet the Lakers Clippers bet from
last year in the playoffs, the one with you, yes,
(34:54):
the one where they never played Lakers Clippers bet when
they never played bea We're not gonna. We're not you.
I did send you. Wow, I'm glad you remembered all
those that gift card. I said, yeah, that was for
something else, Chris, what was it for? What was I
can't say it on the air the restaurant. You guys
at the restaurant. No, well for week stop or you
(35:16):
from week stop? He send it to me. Yeah, but
I can't see on the air when it was flat.
Because we're all get in trouble again. That'd be the
last gift card you get from me. I'm trying to
give you a shout out to Rob Parker. You make
it all person, got yours. It's all good. Thank you, Rob.
So you get the first crack of this one. My
sources say that a rooster with a three inch blade
(35:38):
strapped to its leg slashed the bystanderd during an illegal
cockfighting event hosted by former NFL punter Marquette King over
the weekend. My source is good. This is for me, right,
this is for you, Rob. I'm gonna say that that
is true. Yeah, that's a lot to make up. My
(35:59):
good I think that's true. You sit on a throne
of somebody else did uh Well, there was in a
legal event. It took place in India where a guy died,
but it would not involve Marquette King. Okay, but yeah,
why you put Marquette up in there? See some people
go here that and think they're gonna be like, Yo,
did you hear about Marquette King? They only heard a
(36:20):
little bit of All right, here we go story number two.
Nobody on the board yet. My sources say that Jody
Foster won the Golden Globe for Best Actress in a
Supporting Role on Sunday and actually thanked Aaron Rodgers for
whatever reason. Her acceptance speech Chris, and my source is good.
M Wow, Uh, I think that's false. I'm gonna say
(36:48):
that's true. That's too out of left field. Aaron Rodgers
had some beautiful balls. Oh, Jodi Foster, Rob Parker, what
does she think for? We know she doesn't say. She
lists a bunch of people and she says, oh and
Aaron Rodgers. So I have no idea why she does
crazy out of nowhere? Can you imagine that? Wow? That's great?
(37:09):
All right here we go, married too. He is getting married.
You know, he had a couple of big time girlfriends
and finally looks like you found somebody with another celebrity,
so right, his last two Yes, it was an actress,
and then it was a race car driver, and now
we went back to a race card driver. You couldn't
say Danny Kapatrick. Well, I mean, does she win? She's
(37:32):
well known, but does she win? That's like calling you know,
James Harden. He's a basketball player. No, it's James hard
you know what I'm saying, Like she's name recognition. Yes,
he was with Danny Kapatrick for a considerable amount of time.
And speaking to the nets, Kyrie is growing the afro
like he looks like he's getting real. He's going, Yeah,
it looks like he's going for a real afro. And
(37:54):
by the way, apologies to Shaleene Woodley. Apparently she doesn't
deserve Ray mcknition on this show either. That's New Fiance's
h Shanny Woodley. Shyleen Woodley Up, Yeah, I've never heard
of her. I'm just saying racist. All right, here we go.
Number three. Rob Parker up wanted anohing my sort to
say that a Luca Donsche's rookie card, which features the
(38:15):
NBA logo man patch from a game. Warren Jersey plus
his signature just sold for four point six million dollars,
making it the most expensive NBA card ever purchased. Rob
Parker up. So this is good. I know it always
sounds ridiculous, but the way that they're doing with these cards,
(38:36):
and I can't get over the baseball cards being sold
in NBA and Lebron and all that. I'm gonna say
it's true. I know it's four point six million. I mean,
look it. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm gonna say false, but
that just sounds crazy. Oh it's Chris, I believe man.
(38:57):
You know I actually wanted to hear this song. It's
in months. You said that, lid. You said that Friday
when we played it. What are you talking about? We
didn't get enough about the weekend. It was a truncated
version on Friday. So now I'm feeling it good. Jam
Let it please, my man, let it breathe. I'm coming
from the Wallings. That's my city, that's my state, Louisiana.
(39:23):
You ain't from the wall down the Pelicans, Daisiana. Baton
Rouge into his house at keep it lied. Nobody asked
on you what I was doing. Nobody Bruce Hards
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