March 23, 2022 • 33 mins
Chris and Rob share their thoughts on the blockbuster trade that saw the Kansas City Chiefs send wide receiver Tyreek Hill to the Miami Dolphins and debate whether or not the loss of Hill proves that Patrick Mahomes got 'duped' by the Chiefs into taking a team-friendly deal under the guise that it will help them to keep talent around him, and discuss whether or not the loss of Hill has essentially knocked Mahomes off the GOAT path he had been on. Plus, First Things First on FS1 co-host (and diehard Chiefs fan) Nick Wright swings by to explain why he thinks the Tyreek trade could actually pay off for Kansas City.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker Tyreek Hill. Gone
trade it for five picks, five draft picks, the first
rounder this year and second rounder as well, some of
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you know three other picks. Um, they did get a
haul for him, but still that is a tremendous receiver
Patrick for with all due respect to Travis Kelsey, that
was Patrick's mahomes greatest weapon. And he is one of
the most dangerous players in the league, the greatest big
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play threat in the league. And he's out and the
Kansas City Chiefs will not be the same. What are
your thoughts? The first thing I thought of Chris was
not about Patrick Mahomes and whether or not he was
Jordan esque, not whether or not the Kansas City Chiefs
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dynasty has been derailed because it never was a dynasty.
They only won one championship. The first thing I thought
of was Patrick Mahomes got duped. The Kansas City Chiefs
duped Patrick Mahomes. He was sold a bill of goods.
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You take less money, you help the organization out, we'll
be able to keep your weapons. Yes, I'll do whatever
it is. I want to win. I want to win
is what Patrick wanted. So he took a team friendly
deal instead of getting all the money he rightly deserved.
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He had the most leverage of any NFL player in history.
He was a young quarterback who had won a Super
Bowl and an MVP in his first couple of years
in the league. It was unbelievable. The Kansas City Chiefs
were over a barrel, not Patrick Mahomes. And what did
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he do. He tried to help the organization. He tried
to help the front office. He tried to help the
GM and guess what, he got kicked in the butt
today because you can't help them, you don't know whether
or not they're going to be able to do the
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right job, keep people in the in the frame. And
obviously the negotiations where Tyreek Hill broke off, so it
was it was unreparable that's why you get your money.
Let them figure out what they're trying to do. So
what they coaxed them into dupe the minto was we'll
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be able to keep everybody. Oh, the teams aren't even
gonna get better. Other people will be losing their stars
because their quarterbacks make too much money. And his biggest
weapon walked out the door. I'm not here for doom
and gloom and that the Kansas City won't win a
game and Patrick Mahomes's career is over. I'm not on
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that kind of trip. But even if you look at
Aaron Rodgers and what happened in his situation, he got
his money, and guess what, it still didn't stop Davante Adams,
who was offered a boatload of money from moving on.
That's why you don't do it. That's why you get
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your loot. And I know Patrick Mahomes is rubbing his
head today thinking to itself, I got duped. Cute haul,
that's cute. There's nothing not using the word dupe. Come right.
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I don't know if he got duped. He signed a
bad contract. We all know that. We talked about that
the other day, but I don't know that it was
because he wanted to take less money to bring everybody back.
That was a part of the reasoning that everybody gave.
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But does that explain why you signed for twelve years?
Why would you sign for twelve years when contracts are
skyrocket every year they go hire and higher. DeVante Adams
was so set on being the highest favorite lever it
lasted a week. I mean, I remember talking about Dak
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Prescott when he first this contract first started coming up,
and it was should the Cowboys give him like twenty
eight million? That's a lot. I don't know that. That's
probably twenty five is the highest you go. He got forty, Like, So,
why would you lock yourself in to a twelve year deal?
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That's not about giving extra money for your teammates to
be signed. That's just about a bad decision. And then,
as you know, Robbie didn't give himself any ounce. He
gave the team ounce. So it's baffling the contract and
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why he signed that type of deal. I can't say
he was duped because there are things he did in
that contract that have nothing to do with leave him
money for your teammates, And so I just think overall
was just look, he's gonna get half a billion dollars.
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You know, they're not cutting him, so he'll get that money.
But I'm not feeling sorry for him. But it just
wasn't the deal as you said that he could have gotten.
But here's the other thing, Rob, even if you take
less money as Tom Brady did, you can't keep everybody.
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That's where the NFL has become hardcap league. That's why
it's so hard to half a dynasty because today we
used to see him every decade. I mean, we've seen
the Patriots over time this century, but we don't see
them like we used to other than the Patriots because
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of free agency and guys are moving on so much.
Tom Brady took less money and they still lost players.
They still didn't sign God, we we all these scratcher
had Wild they let him go, a guy that was
so important to their Super Bowl run they just let go.
So there's no I mean to have a quarterback making
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forty five million and a receiver making thirty that where
is that happening? Miami two is still on the rookie deal.
That's why they could afford to give Tyreek that money.
Derek Carr is underpaid by today's standards. That's why they
could afford to give DeVante Adams that money. It's just
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tough to do and keep a team together. So it
was not it was it was entertaining your spiel. I
was waiting for the music that would have even added
to it. But while I think there's an element of yeah,
he did this too, keep other players, I mean it
was I don't know that anything could have kept Divine
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or Tyreek if he was gonna get thirty million dollars. No,
you know they've kept other players. Justin Reid. They signed
Frank Clark. Last year, they signed Orlando Brown, Juju Smith, Shooster.
So they are bringing in players, but it's hard. Like
I said, even Brady lost guys because you can only
there's only so much money to go around. Yeah, but
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but that was the big ballet. Who about if you
go back and if you want to find the stories
in Google about making a team friendly, to help keep
players so that they could have a dynasty, so that
they would be able to put together all those weapons
around them. And this is just my point is that
you can't do that as a player because you don't
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know where other people's heads are. You don't know whether
or not. Teams are going to want to do that
and keep people and pay them whatever it takes to
keep people, no matter what your concessions are. That's my
biggest point, and that you should never make concessions. You
should get what the market value is for you and
then that's for the team to figure it all out.
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With the other players. Well, you can make I wouldn't say.
I mean, it's on the individual. Like I said, I'm
not feeling sorry for Patrick Mahomes and I'm not feeling
sorry for Tom Brady. Tom Brady's made concessions and it's
helped him get seven rings. So and it's and he's
still the highest player quarterback in history. He won't be
you know, that changes obviously as guys get bigger deals,
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but he's in the top three right now. And so
you know, I'm not gonna say a guy should never
take less, you know, because it's worked for Tom Brady
and you know it's enhanced his career. Everybody doesn't have
to do that, but if you want to, then then
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that's your prerogative. And I think, like you're saying, yeah,
but I mean you can think that. But if you're happy,
if if Tom Brady. What does he have to be
feel bad about because he didn't instead of making three
hundred and fifty million, then he made two hundred and
ninety men. But that your argument doesn't hold water because
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I named the big time players they went out and signed.
Because Tom Brady didn't take his money. They say didn't
do that. It's good enough to win seven six super Bow,
but but they didn't go they didn't weather only everything
about was that he didn't got Randy, that he didn't
have players, that they that they didn't have players. And
it's always like old Tom Brady didn't war with less well,
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that the Patriots didn't spend money on people, So why
Brady spent money. They spent money. They didn't spend money
at times on the receiver position. But they got They
got Randy Moss, they had Chad Johnson. They didn't win
it with those guys, and they didn't have money, got
big money cont but but but they I don't see
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how you can say they didn't get the players. They
won six super Bowls. That doesn't mean that they spent
the money on players, is what I'm saying. They didn't. Chris,
They were below the cab every year last year. They
the first time they went out last year was the
first time they went out and spent money, like it
was going out of style land never done that was
nobody had ever done that. That was the most in
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the NFL history. I'm talking about it. But they were
spending money. No, no, nobody had ever done that, not
just the Patriots. They spend enough money to win six
Super Bowls, so they had to be getting good players.
But Tyreek, you know, and I don't. I ain't mad
at Tyreek. You know, he got his super Bowl. We
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don't judge receivers by super Bowls. We'll see he's in
a good situation. We'll see if they can win down there.
But he, like Patrick was wanted, Like you said, you
don't know what another guy's thinking. Maybe he thought Tyreek
was gonna take a discount, give the hometown discount to
stay together. Tyreek was like, I gotta get mine mad a.
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what's up man? What's happening? Bro? Rob? It's great to
be on a top three sports radio show in the world. Wow,
did you guys Cowherd? You know how I feel about
the show? Did you guys Cowherd? In a show that
I will not name? That way, all my other friends
on the radio can think it's them. How are you
guys today? Right? We are doing How are you let
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me tell you check out his new podcast to What's
Right with Nick Wright. That's the podcast. It's high. It's
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drops tomorrow morning, right after First Thing's first end. They're
smart about that. It doesn't debut until nine thirty in
the morning. You will be able to see because we
were recording it today right as the Tyree Killed news dropped,
so you can see my real time reaction. I've now
had a little more time to digest it, and Brew,
I know this is gonna shock you, but I gotta
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tell you I kind of love the trade. What I believe.
I'm gonna call you Nick wrong for that. Come on,
you do not like this trade? Whatever helps to sleep
at night, Nick, But you know this ain't the truth. Okay,
We'll hold on, Brew because you can you can validate
that I'm not being I think you can validate here
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that I am being consistent with this. Did I love
the Davante Adams trade for the Raiders or did I
say I thought they gave up too much? You did
think they gave up too much? Yeah, well the Dolphins
just gave up more and the Chiefs need the cap
space and Mahomes will make a lot of people great.
Tyreekuld listen, let me make this clear. Let me make
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it very clear. And I'm a little mad you invited
me on the show because it's now giving you twelve
hours to prepare a rebuttal for this amazing Oh, I
know you are. I almost turned down the invite purely
because of that. But here's here's the point that I
would make. Listen, thirty million a year for Tyree kill
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is to me a little rich. When the Chiefs clearly
has to upgrade the defense and they were not going
to have enough draft capital to do it, and you
look at Tyreek's age, and you look at the way
the market is going, I understand why for Kansas City,
that's made sense. I will go a step further. On
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the TV show, Brew I have to deal with the
incorrigible Kevin Wilds all the time bringing up the Patriots dynasty.
This is a move that vintage Belichick absolutely would have made.
Can we agree on that? I give you that that
was kind of saying something similar to Rob in our
first segment. Yeah, I agree, You're right. You couldn't say
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you can't have a quarterback making forty five million, a
receiver making thirty You can't. You absolutely can't. And I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it one step further here.
Okay that if you are Kansas City and right now now,
let me make it clear, they obviously got a little
worse or maybe more than a little worse for twenty
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twenty two. I'm not going to act like whomever they draft,
assuming they dot them package the picks for a player.
Whomever they draft is not going to add as much
value for the team this upcoming season. With that said,
when you see your divisional rivals, the Broncos seemingly pushing
all their chips in right now and they are negative
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minus picks moving forward, the Raiders are minus picks moving forward,
you see all these teams doing the you know, trying
to follow the Rams model of going all in. I
don't mind the Chiefs zagging a bit. When everyone's zigging
and saying, you know what, we're gonna have a long
view of it. We're going to make sure that this
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can be long term sustainable. And I do think there
is something to be said for getting almost assuredly the
best six years of Tyree Hill's career out of him,
where you spend a mid round pick on him, and
then before he ever cost a ton of money, because
keep in mind, they got him on a bargain contract
because he had the off the field you know, we'll
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call a baggage to be kind, so they never really
had to pay him a ton of money. And you
know what it reminds me of. It reminds me a
bit of when the Patriots traded Richard Seymour for two
firsts to the Raiders. Now, Richard Seymour had a lot
of football left in him, but they decided this that
was the best way to improve the team long term.
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So I listen. It obviously is sad, and it's disappointing
because he's one of the greatest chiefs ever in the
Mahomes Hill combination with outstanding But I understand why they
did it. I do understand why they did it. Zee.
I can't get with that because last year when they
when they started defending Tyree Hill and playing it a
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different way, that's when we saw some of the worst
of Mahomes offensively for the Chiefs and uh turnovers and mistakes.
So I don't think that this is some game plan
by the Chiefs. They just got into a situation where
they couldn't pay a big piece and they had no choice,
uh then to make this. This is not a move
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you would make even if you had the money to
pay Tyree Hill football. You got a short window, Nick,
to win. You got a good team. Now this whole
idea of kicking a can and trying to win five.
If you have a twenty six year old quarterback who's
the best in football, you don't have a small window. Yes,
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the Dan Marino was one of the greatest quarterbacks ever
who went to a Super Bowl is second year and
never went back. It ain't automatic, Nick, I get what
you're saying, talent wise, but Dane, you know, everybody just
assumed that he was gonna go back and he was
gonna win Super Breaks. But the reason that the fallacious
comparison rob is because Dan Marino didn't win the Super
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Bowl and didn't go back. Mahomes did win the Super
Bowl and then went right back and last year was
in overtime to go to a third strade, and the
year before was in overtime to go to one beforehand.
So the idea that the Dan Marino comp I'm gonna
go ahead and say, maybe we can throw that at
Joe Burrow until he shows it's sustainable. But I think
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Mahomes has already knocked that one down. But there is
the point that I am making is this, whenever a
star player has traded for draft picks, whenever it happens,
we always just I think the media knee jerks into
saying the team that got the star player won the trade,
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when if you remove quarterback trades right, because quarterbacks are
almost their own economy, set that aside, it's really mixed results.
Jalen Ramsey, the Rams won the trade by getting him,
There's no doubt about it. Khalil Mack, one could argue
both teams lost, don't I don't think the Bears won
that trade at all. Certainly the Texans didn't win the
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Laramie Tunsil trade. Everybody acknowledges the Seahawks got fleeced in
the Jamal Adams trade. Now, I think Tyree Kill is
better than almost all of those players. I just mentioned
except for possibly Khalil Mack. To me, there's somewhat equivalent,
but there is a cost. And the point that I
that I would make is if the Dolphins had traded
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five first round picks and paid Tyree Hill fifty million
a year, everyone would say, Okay, well that's a bad
trade by them. So we all agree there is there
is a level. I think thirty million a year a first,
a second, two fourth, and a sixth approaches that level
to where and I understand why they would do it,
because they have to find out what they have in Tua.
But I also think the Chiefs maximize the value they
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could get. And now we'll see if they spend the
money on defenders, which is what they desperately need. All right, Nick,
we got a minute left for your answer. You said
you think they probably took a step back in twenty
twenty two. We did your NFL tiers today on the
show you had the Chiefs is the favorites number one?
Do you still have that? I'm a man, brus Hard.
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Tell your audience hasn't watched the TV show What am
I dripping in? Tell them? What am I dripping in? Well?
Except for it when you came off the Lakers a
couple of weeks ago. Objectivity, right, I'm dripping an objectivity.
I am dripping an objectivity. And by the way, the Lakers,
the fact that I said the Lakers are drawing dead
only proves I'm dripping objectivity. And so just so because
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of that, because I said the Chiefs took a step back,
I cannot have them as the favorites anymore. Broke and
we shuts on the television show. They are now the
co favorites along with Buffalo Favorite Favorite Something Surprised. I
am not surprised. And forget all that stuff about dripping
with integrity and get at Nick. What's the name of
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the name of the podcast is What's Right with Nick Wright.
Don't make some stupid wordplay saying it should be called
What's Wrong? Rob Parker, I already know where your brain are.
Not gonna say that. Hey, all I'm saying is I'll
never miss your podcast. I'll never listen to us, so
I'll never miss it. See there you go, Rob, that's
just mean. I call you one of the three best
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radio shows in the Just say you'll never listen to
the podcast. That's fine. Don't worry about it by the
way through, are you I have to know and I
know you have to go Jesus, answer me this. Are
you back on the nets now that Kyrie is going
to be able to play or the next winning the title?
Yet I'm close? I got out the title. No, no,
I'm not ready to go there yet. I'm not. Fox
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to listen live. Everybody knows that I for the past
I don't know, four years basically have been saying or
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three years, I guess that Patrick Mahomes is Jordan esque,
that Patrick Mahomes has goat potential. Obviously, never said he
was the goat, never guaranteed he will be the goat,
but said he has goat potential. And we all know
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what that boils down to. It don't boil down just
the stats. That's part of it. It doesn't boil down
just the MVPs. That's part of it. But it boils
down to Super Bowls. And that's only part of it
as well, but it's a huge part. No matter what
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your stats saying, you can't be in the goat conversation. Seriously,
if you don't win a good number of Super Bowls,
and obviously Tim Brady's got seven. I've never said or
felt that Mahomes had to win seven to challenge Brady
for the goat, but he certainly got to win probably
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rob at least at least four. At least I got
four without a loss, right, so Mahomes already had a loss.
So Chris, to be honest, he'd got to win more
than than Montala would need to be five and one
at least with big numbers, right five, And we'll see
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and his numbers and some of it, of course, a
lot of it is today's game. All the numbers are
better than they used to be. But his numbers, you know,
by today's standards, his numbers have to be great, and
they they I think they will be. I mean his
numbers overall, not every single year, but overall, his numbers
are right there at the top of today. You know
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him and Aaron Rodgers, and you know today's top quarterback.
So I think his numbers will be great. But it's
gonna come down to how many wins. And and you
say it's gonna be it's gonna have to be at
least five and one because he's one and one because
Montea lose. Yeah, I I I right now I feel
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like four. But if he got there, i'd probably you know,
you see how what what does that Ford look like?
You know what I mean? So I might, but but
I feel like forward. I'm not mad at you because
that's a valid argument because because Montana never lost, right.
But here's the thing, Rob, and it's it definitely, And
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we talked about this earlier. It's gotten harder from my
homes am I saying his chase of God them is
done like that if you like, And I am not
saying that. Here's what I'm saying. The road to goat Doom.
I'm gonna keep using that because Rob loves that. The
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road to goat doom it is not easy. It's not
paved with gold. The road to goat Doom is tough,
is hard. And now let's face it, Patrick Mahomes has
had a great receiver with him, Tyree, great tight end Travis,
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and he still got him great offensive coach Andy Reid,
Tom Brady, who I believe the goat Rob thinkers of Montana,
but Tom Brady, Rob these are the leading receivers on
the teams. He won Super bowls, man, And I'm gonna
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tell you how many Pro Bowls they went to in
their careers. Troy Brown the first Super Bowl, one Pro
Bowl in his whole career. Dion Branch the second Super Bowl.
And I don't mean the leading receiver in the Super Bowl.
I mean the leading receiver for that season. And Branch
was with the Raiders for a long time. He was
at the end, wasn't he when he got there? When
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he was with New England? Yeah, first Branch. I don't know.
I don't know if you're thinking of Cliff Branch. Am
I thinking of somebody else? Man? You might be thinking
of Cliff Brand Okay, maybe I'm wrong, Okay, Yeah, yeah.
Deon Dion was with New England and his started his
career with New England and the play you think of
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Cliff Branch, But Deon Branch no Pro bowls. David Givens
led them in receiving for the third Super Bowl. No,
never made a Pro Bowl. For Super Bowl. Gronk was
the leading receiver, obviously a great player of Hall of Famer.
Future Hall of Famer Julian Edelman was their top wide receiver,
and for the next two, five and six, Julian Edelman
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was their leading receiver. Edelman never made a Pro Bowl.
So Tom Brady did do it with superstars. Yes, Gronk
as a tight end, but he never had when he
won Super Bowls what we would call a great wide receiver.
Now I had Randy Moss. Team was awesome. That's when
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I actually start thinking Brady might be the goat because
he put up terrific numbers with Moss, and I said, Wow,
you give this dude like a top flight receiver like
Montana had in Rice and like Peyton had had in
Marvin Harrison and those guys. And he's putting up ridiculous
number He's breaking records. And so Patrick Mahomes, now that
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he doesn't have Tyreek Hill, guess what to replace the goat?
To overcome the goat, You're gonna have to win it
without great receivers now, and he's gonna have to make
them great. Is that what you're saying, right, He's gonna
have to make them make McCole and they got some
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talent mcole hard Mistownship. We know Juju is a good receiver.
He's not a number one but he's a two or three,
and so they've got and they still have Kelsey. It's
gonna be interested to see how this affects Kelsey rob
because he benefited from Tyreek taking the top off those defenses, right,
and so that left him open, right. But you get
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what I'm saying. I'm saying. Look, I'm not saying Mahomes
still can't chase Brady and maybe be the goat. But
what I'm saying is Brady did it without terrific receivers.
So now, at least for the time being, Mahomes is
gonna have to do it without terrific receivers. And let's
see if he can and that'll determine a lot going forward.
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How surprised would you be, Chris, I'm just it's just hypothetical.
If I don't know, this year in the division, maybe
they fall down enough they don't make the playoffs, would
that change anything? And would would that just be like
U you know, they gotta regroup and figure it out
and they can still get back there. Like if it's
that monumental where they go from nearly being in the
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super Bowl those three years in a row whatever to
not making the playoffs. No, I mean, it wouldn't It
wouldn't change my view that the window. Let's put it
that way. It's still Yeah. I think the window, like
I said with Aaron Rodgers with Manning when he was
in Indianapolis, like whenever you have all time great right,
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all time great quarterbacks, I think the windows open in general,
Like even when Rodgers rob remember before the last years
with McCarthy and they didn't make the playoffs. The Rodgers
was a little banged up, but he was playing for
the most part. I didn't think like he's done, you
know what I mean, the window isn't open anymore. And
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then they get in the floor and you know, Rogers
takes off again. So I think the window is gonna
be open for a daycade But and there might be
a year or two when they don't make the playoffs.
Remember Brady didn't make it the year after they won
the Super Bowl, and Brady win a decade without winning
a Super Bowl. People forget that. I think Brady's had
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two separate kind of careers, Chris, you know, the first
one when they won the what is the three out
of four or something or three out of five whatever,
and then that the ten years went by and then
they won again. They started winning again, so right, I mean,
they was still good in those teams because they lost
tight giants during those ten years, but they didn't win right, right, right, So,
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like I said, I think what would be stunning is
if my homes just had a bad year. That would
be concerning. And I don't even think and I'm not
even talking about rob Like you know, last year at
times people thought he was down here and you know
he was up there and interceptions, but he still was
throwing a lot of touchdowns, you know what I mean.
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Like it wasn't like it was bad maybe by his standards,
but it overall it was a good year. I'm just
talking about if he just wasn't, like even on the
level of Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers and you know,
the top quarterbacks, if he just was wayed below them, Um,
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that would stun me, and you know, maybe give me
some pause. But I expect him to play. Well, we'll see.
You know, Nick Wright brought up the first hour. You
know they're gonna use these picks on two things, receivers
and defense, and that's what they need. They need. Obviously
we saw at the end of the year Chris, that
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bad loss to the Bengals. Uh, you know when they
could have got the number one s in the AFC.
Remember that in second half the defense gave it up
and and then obviously the Bengals in the in the
playoff game, you know, like, and I get it, my
Homes through the pic. It's hard when you put the
defense in that as far as the game winner, right,
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But but they were ahead in that game too, right,
and in that playoff game, no doubt, and see and
they're not. I don't think they're gonna have the offense
ride to bail that defense out, Like, I don't think.
I mean, how many times was Mahomes scrambling and heaves
it up and Tyreek makes a huge play, or even
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a short pass to Tyreek that he turns into a
big play, you know, I mean, that's gone
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trade it for five picks, five draft picks, the first
rounder this year and second rounder as well, some of
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you know three other picks. Um, they did get a
haul for him, but still that is a tremendous receiver
Patrick for with all due respect to Travis Kelsey, that
was Patrick's mahomes greatest weapon. And he is one of
the most dangerous players in the league, the greatest big
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play threat in the league. And he's out and the
Kansas City Chiefs will not be the same. What are
your thoughts? The first thing I thought of Chris was
not about Patrick Mahomes and whether or not he was
Jordan esque, not whether or not the Kansas City Chiefs
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dynasty has been derailed because it never was a dynasty.
They only won one championship. The first thing I thought
of was Patrick Mahomes got duped. The Kansas City Chiefs
duped Patrick Mahomes. He was sold a bill of goods.
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You take less money, you help the organization out, we'll
be able to keep your weapons. Yes, I'll do whatever
it is. I want to win. I want to win
is what Patrick wanted. So he took a team friendly
deal instead of getting all the money he rightly deserved.
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He had the most leverage of any NFL player in history.
He was a young quarterback who had won a Super
Bowl and an MVP in his first couple of years
in the league. It was unbelievable. The Kansas City Chiefs
were over a barrel, not Patrick Mahomes. And what did
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he do. He tried to help the organization. He tried
to help the front office. He tried to help the
GM and guess what, he got kicked in the butt
today because you can't help them, you don't know whether
or not they're going to be able to do the
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right job, keep people in the in the frame. And
obviously the negotiations where Tyreek Hill broke off, so it
was it was unreparable that's why you get your money.
Let them figure out what they're trying to do. So
what they coaxed them into dupe the minto was we'll
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be able to keep everybody. Oh, the teams aren't even
gonna get better. Other people will be losing their stars
because their quarterbacks make too much money. And his biggest
weapon walked out the door. I'm not here for doom
and gloom and that the Kansas City won't win a
game and Patrick Mahomes's career is over. I'm not on
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that kind of trip. But even if you look at
Aaron Rodgers and what happened in his situation, he got
his money, and guess what, it still didn't stop Davante Adams,
who was offered a boatload of money from moving on.
That's why you don't do it. That's why you get
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your loot. And I know Patrick Mahomes is rubbing his
head today thinking to itself, I got duped. Cute haul,
that's cute. There's nothing not using the word dupe. Come right.
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I don't know if he got duped. He signed a
bad contract. We all know that. We talked about that
the other day, but I don't know that it was
because he wanted to take less money to bring everybody back.
That was a part of the reasoning that everybody gave.
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But does that explain why you signed for twelve years?
Why would you sign for twelve years when contracts are
skyrocket every year they go hire and higher. DeVante Adams
was so set on being the highest favorite lever it
lasted a week. I mean, I remember talking about Dak
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Prescott when he first this contract first started coming up,
and it was should the Cowboys give him like twenty
eight million? That's a lot. I don't know that. That's
probably twenty five is the highest you go. He got forty, Like, So,
why would you lock yourself in to a twelve year deal?
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That's not about giving extra money for your teammates to
be signed. That's just about a bad decision. And then,
as you know, Robbie didn't give himself any ounce. He
gave the team ounce. So it's baffling the contract and
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why he signed that type of deal. I can't say
he was duped because there are things he did in
that contract that have nothing to do with leave him
money for your teammates, And so I just think overall
was just look, he's gonna get half a billion dollars.
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You know, they're not cutting him, so he'll get that money.
But I'm not feeling sorry for him. But it just
wasn't the deal as you said that he could have gotten.
But here's the other thing, Rob, even if you take
less money as Tom Brady did, you can't keep everybody.
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That's where the NFL has become hardcap league. That's why
it's so hard to half a dynasty because today we
used to see him every decade. I mean, we've seen
the Patriots over time this century, but we don't see
them like we used to other than the Patriots because
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of free agency and guys are moving on so much.
Tom Brady took less money and they still lost players.
They still didn't sign God, we we all these scratcher
had Wild they let him go, a guy that was
so important to their Super Bowl run they just let go.
So there's no I mean to have a quarterback making
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forty five million and a receiver making thirty that where
is that happening? Miami two is still on the rookie deal.
That's why they could afford to give Tyreek that money.
Derek Carr is underpaid by today's standards. That's why they
could afford to give DeVante Adams that money. It's just
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tough to do and keep a team together. So it
was not it was it was entertaining your spiel. I
was waiting for the music that would have even added
to it. But while I think there's an element of yeah,
he did this too, keep other players, I mean it
was I don't know that anything could have kept Divine
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or Tyreek if he was gonna get thirty million dollars. No,
you know they've kept other players. Justin Reid. They signed
Frank Clark. Last year, they signed Orlando Brown, Juju Smith, Shooster.
So they are bringing in players, but it's hard. Like
I said, even Brady lost guys because you can only
there's only so much money to go around. Yeah, but
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but that was the big ballet. Who about if you
go back and if you want to find the stories
in Google about making a team friendly, to help keep
players so that they could have a dynasty, so that
they would be able to put together all those weapons
around them. And this is just my point is that
you can't do that as a player because you don't
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know where other people's heads are. You don't know whether
or not. Teams are going to want to do that
and keep people and pay them whatever it takes to
keep people, no matter what your concessions are. That's my
biggest point, and that you should never make concessions. You
should get what the market value is for you and
then that's for the team to figure it all out.
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With the other players. Well, you can make I wouldn't say.
I mean, it's on the individual. Like I said, I'm
not feeling sorry for Patrick Mahomes and I'm not feeling
sorry for Tom Brady. Tom Brady's made concessions and it's
helped him get seven rings. So and it's and he's
still the highest player quarterback in history. He won't be
you know, that changes obviously as guys get bigger deals,
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but he's in the top three right now. And so
you know, I'm not gonna say a guy should never
take less, you know, because it's worked for Tom Brady
and you know it's enhanced his career. Everybody doesn't have
to do that, but if you want to, then then
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that's your prerogative. And I think, like you're saying, yeah,
but I mean you can think that. But if you're happy,
if if Tom Brady. What does he have to be
feel bad about because he didn't instead of making three
hundred and fifty million, then he made two hundred and
ninety men. But that your argument doesn't hold water because
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I named the big time players they went out and signed.
Because Tom Brady didn't take his money. They say didn't
do that. It's good enough to win seven six super Bow,
but but they didn't go they didn't weather only everything
about was that he didn't got Randy, that he didn't
have players, that they that they didn't have players. And
it's always like old Tom Brady didn't war with less well,
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that the Patriots didn't spend money on people, So why
Brady spent money. They spent money. They didn't spend money
at times on the receiver position. But they got They
got Randy Moss, they had Chad Johnson. They didn't win
it with those guys, and they didn't have money, got
big money cont but but but they I don't see
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how you can say they didn't get the players. They
won six super Bowls. That doesn't mean that they spent
the money on players, is what I'm saying. They didn't. Chris,
They were below the cab every year last year. They
the first time they went out last year was the
first time they went out and spent money, like it
was going out of style land never done that was
nobody had ever done that. That was the most in
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the NFL history. I'm talking about it. But they were
spending money. No, no, nobody had ever done that, not
just the Patriots. They spend enough money to win six
Super Bowls, so they had to be getting good players.
But Tyreek, you know, and I don't. I ain't mad
at Tyreek. You know, he got his super Bowl. We
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don't judge receivers by super Bowls. We'll see he's in
a good situation. We'll see if they can win down there.
But he, like Patrick was wanted, Like you said, you
don't know what another guy's thinking. Maybe he thought Tyreek
was gonna take a discount, give the hometown discount to
stay together. Tyreek was like, I gotta get mine mad a.
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what's up man? What's happening? Bro? Rob? It's great to
be on a top three sports radio show in the world. Wow,
did you guys Cowherd? You know how I feel about
the show? Did you guys Cowherd? In a show that
I will not name? That way, all my other friends
on the radio can think it's them. How are you
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drops tomorrow morning, right after First Thing's first end. They're
smart about that. It doesn't debut until nine thirty in
the morning. You will be able to see because we
were recording it today right as the Tyree Killed news dropped,
so you can see my real time reaction. I've now
had a little more time to digest it, and Brew,
I know this is gonna shock you, but I gotta
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tell you I kind of love the trade. What I believe.
I'm gonna call you Nick wrong for that. Come on,
you do not like this trade? Whatever helps to sleep
at night, Nick, But you know this ain't the truth. Okay,
We'll hold on, Brew because you can you can validate
that I'm not being I think you can validate here
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that I am being consistent with this. Did I love
the Davante Adams trade for the Raiders or did I
say I thought they gave up too much? You did
think they gave up too much? Yeah, well the Dolphins
just gave up more and the Chiefs need the cap
space and Mahomes will make a lot of people great.
Tyreekuld listen, let me make this clear. Let me make
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it very clear. And I'm a little mad you invited
me on the show because it's now giving you twelve
hours to prepare a rebuttal for this amazing Oh, I
know you are. I almost turned down the invite purely
because of that. But here's here's the point that I
would make. Listen, thirty million a year for Tyree kill
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is to me a little rich. When the Chiefs clearly
has to upgrade the defense and they were not going
to have enough draft capital to do it, and you
look at Tyreek's age, and you look at the way
the market is going, I understand why for Kansas City,
that's made sense. I will go a step further. On
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the TV show, Brew I have to deal with the
incorrigible Kevin Wilds all the time bringing up the Patriots dynasty.
This is a move that vintage Belichick absolutely would have made.
Can we agree on that? I give you that that
was kind of saying something similar to Rob in our
first segment. Yeah, I agree, You're right. You couldn't say
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you can't have a quarterback making forty five million, a
receiver making thirty You can't. You absolutely can't. And I'm gonna,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna take it one step further here.
Okay that if you are Kansas City and right now now,
let me make it clear, they obviously got a little
worse or maybe more than a little worse for twenty
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twenty two. I'm not going to act like whomever they draft,
assuming they dot them package the picks for a player.
Whomever they draft is not going to add as much
value for the team this upcoming season. With that said,
when you see your divisional rivals, the Broncos seemingly pushing
all their chips in right now and they are negative
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minus picks moving forward, the Raiders are minus picks moving forward,
you see all these teams doing the you know, trying
to follow the Rams model of going all in. I
don't mind the Chiefs zagging a bit. When everyone's zigging
and saying, you know what, we're gonna have a long
view of it. We're going to make sure that this
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can be long term sustainable. And I do think there
is something to be said for getting almost assuredly the
best six years of Tyree Hill's career out of him,
where you spend a mid round pick on him, and
then before he ever cost a ton of money, because
keep in mind, they got him on a bargain contract
because he had the off the field you know, we'll
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call a baggage to be kind, so they never really
had to pay him a ton of money. And you
know what it reminds me of. It reminds me a
bit of when the Patriots traded Richard Seymour for two
firsts to the Raiders. Now, Richard Seymour had a lot
of football left in him, but they decided this that
was the best way to improve the team long term.
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So I listen. It obviously is sad, and it's disappointing
because he's one of the greatest chiefs ever in the
Mahomes Hill combination with outstanding But I understand why they
did it. I do understand why they did it. Zee.
I can't get with that because last year when they
when they started defending Tyree Hill and playing it a
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different way, that's when we saw some of the worst
of Mahomes offensively for the Chiefs and uh turnovers and mistakes.
So I don't think that this is some game plan
by the Chiefs. They just got into a situation where
they couldn't pay a big piece and they had no choice,
uh then to make this. This is not a move
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you would make even if you had the money to
pay Tyree Hill football. You got a short window, Nick,
to win. You got a good team. Now this whole
idea of kicking a can and trying to win five.
If you have a twenty six year old quarterback who's
the best in football, you don't have a small window. Yes,
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the Dan Marino was one of the greatest quarterbacks ever
who went to a Super Bowl is second year and
never went back. It ain't automatic, Nick, I get what
you're saying, talent wise, but Dane, you know, everybody just
assumed that he was gonna go back and he was
gonna win Super Breaks. But the reason that the fallacious
comparison rob is because Dan Marino didn't win the Super
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Bowl and didn't go back. Mahomes did win the Super
Bowl and then went right back and last year was
in overtime to go to a third strade, and the
year before was in overtime to go to one beforehand.
So the idea that the Dan Marino comp I'm gonna
go ahead and say, maybe we can throw that at
Joe Burrow until he shows it's sustainable. But I think
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Mahomes has already knocked that one down. But there is
the point that I am making is this, whenever a
star player has traded for draft picks, whenever it happens,
we always just I think the media knee jerks into
saying the team that got the star player won the trade,
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when if you remove quarterback trades right, because quarterbacks are
almost their own economy, set that aside, it's really mixed results.
Jalen Ramsey, the Rams won the trade by getting him,
There's no doubt about it. Khalil Mack, one could argue
both teams lost, don't I don't think the Bears won
that trade at all. Certainly the Texans didn't win the
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Laramie Tunsil trade. Everybody acknowledges the Seahawks got fleeced in
the Jamal Adams trade. Now, I think Tyree Kill is
better than almost all of those players. I just mentioned
except for possibly Khalil Mack. To me, there's somewhat equivalent,
but there is a cost. And the point that I
that I would make is if the Dolphins had traded
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five first round picks and paid Tyree Hill fifty million
a year, everyone would say, Okay, well that's a bad
trade by them. So we all agree there is there
is a level. I think thirty million a year a first,
a second, two fourth, and a sixth approaches that level
to where and I understand why they would do it,
because they have to find out what they have in Tua.
But I also think the Chiefs maximize the value they
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could get. And now we'll see if they spend the
money on defenders, which is what they desperately need. All right, Nick,
we got a minute left for your answer. You said
you think they probably took a step back in twenty
twenty two. We did your NFL tiers today on the
show you had the Chiefs is the favorites number one?
Do you still have that? I'm a man, brus Hard.
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Tell your audience hasn't watched the TV show What am
I dripping in? Tell them? What am I dripping in? Well?
Except for it when you came off the Lakers a
couple of weeks ago. Objectivity, right, I'm dripping an objectivity.
I am dripping an objectivity. And by the way, the Lakers,
the fact that I said the Lakers are drawing dead
only proves I'm dripping objectivity. And so just so because
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of that, because I said the Chiefs took a step back,
I cannot have them as the favorites anymore. Broke and
we shuts on the television show. They are now the
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am not surprised. And forget all that stuff about dripping
with integrity and get at Nick. What's the name of
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the name of the podcast is What's Right with Nick Wright.
Don't make some stupid wordplay saying it should be called
What's Wrong? Rob Parker, I already know where your brain are.
Not gonna say that. Hey, all I'm saying is I'll
never miss your podcast. I'll never listen to us, so
I'll never miss it. See there you go, Rob, that's
just mean. I call you one of the three best
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radio shows in the Just say you'll never listen to
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way through, are you I have to know and I
know you have to go Jesus, answer me this. Are
you back on the nets now that Kyrie is going
to be able to play or the next winning the title?
Yet I'm close? I got out the title. No, no,
I'm not ready to go there yet. I'm not. Fox
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to listen live. Everybody knows that I for the past
I don't know, four years basically have been saying or
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three years, I guess that Patrick Mahomes is Jordan esque,
that Patrick Mahomes has goat potential. Obviously, never said he
was the goat, never guaranteed he will be the goat,
but said he has goat potential. And we all know
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what that boils down to. It don't boil down just
the stats. That's part of it. It doesn't boil down
just the MVPs. That's part of it. But it boils
down to Super Bowls. And that's only part of it
as well, but it's a huge part. No matter what
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your stats saying, you can't be in the goat conversation. Seriously,
if you don't win a good number of Super Bowls,
and obviously Tim Brady's got seven. I've never said or
felt that Mahomes had to win seven to challenge Brady
for the goat, but he certainly got to win probably
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rob at least at least four. At least I got
four without a loss, right, so Mahomes already had a loss.
So Chris, to be honest, he'd got to win more
than than Montala would need to be five and one
at least with big numbers, right five, And we'll see
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and his numbers and some of it, of course, a
lot of it is today's game. All the numbers are
better than they used to be. But his numbers, you know,
by today's standards, his numbers have to be great, and
they they I think they will be. I mean his
numbers overall, not every single year, but overall, his numbers
are right there at the top of today. You know
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him and Aaron Rodgers, and you know today's top quarterback.
So I think his numbers will be great. But it's
gonna come down to how many wins. And and you
say it's gonna be it's gonna have to be at
least five and one because he's one and one because
Montea lose. Yeah, I I I right now I feel
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like four. But if he got there, i'd probably you know,
you see how what what does that Ford look like?
You know what I mean? So I might, but but
I feel like forward. I'm not mad at you because
that's a valid argument because because Montana never lost, right.
But here's the thing, Rob, and it's it definitely, And
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we talked about this earlier. It's gotten harder from my
homes am I saying his chase of God them is
done like that if you like, And I am not
saying that. Here's what I'm saying. The road to goat Doom.
I'm gonna keep using that because Rob loves that. The
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road to goat doom it is not easy. It's not
paved with gold. The road to goat Doom is tough,
is hard. And now let's face it, Patrick Mahomes has
had a great receiver with him, Tyree, great tight end Travis,
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and he still got him great offensive coach Andy Reid,
Tom Brady, who I believe the goat Rob thinkers of Montana,
but Tom Brady, Rob these are the leading receivers on
the teams. He won Super bowls, man, And I'm gonna
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tell you how many Pro Bowls they went to in
their careers. Troy Brown the first Super Bowl, one Pro
Bowl in his whole career. Dion Branch the second Super Bowl.
And I don't mean the leading receiver in the Super Bowl.
I mean the leading receiver for that season. And Branch
was with the Raiders for a long time. He was
at the end, wasn't he when he got there? When
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he was with New England? Yeah, first Branch. I don't know.
I don't know if you're thinking of Cliff Branch. Am
I thinking of somebody else? Man? You might be thinking
of Cliff Brand Okay, maybe I'm wrong, Okay, Yeah, yeah.
Deon Dion was with New England and his started his
career with New England and the play you think of
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Cliff Branch, But Deon Branch no Pro bowls. David Givens
led them in receiving for the third Super Bowl. No,
never made a Pro Bowl. For Super Bowl. Gronk was
the leading receiver, obviously a great player of Hall of Famer.
Future Hall of Famer Julian Edelman was their top wide receiver,
and for the next two, five and six, Julian Edelman
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was their leading receiver. Edelman never made a Pro Bowl.
So Tom Brady did do it with superstars. Yes, Gronk
as a tight end, but he never had when he
won Super Bowls what we would call a great wide receiver.
Now I had Randy Moss. Team was awesome. That's when
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I actually start thinking Brady might be the goat because
he put up terrific numbers with Moss, and I said, Wow,
you give this dude like a top flight receiver like
Montana had in Rice and like Peyton had had in
Marvin Harrison and those guys. And he's putting up ridiculous
number He's breaking records. And so Patrick Mahomes, now that
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he doesn't have Tyreek Hill, guess what to replace the goat?
To overcome the goat, You're gonna have to win it
without great receivers now, and he's gonna have to make
them great. Is that what you're saying, right, He's gonna
have to make them make McCole and they got some
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talent mcole hard Mistownship. We know Juju is a good receiver.
He's not a number one but he's a two or three,
and so they've got and they still have Kelsey. It's
gonna be interested to see how this affects Kelsey rob
because he benefited from Tyreek taking the top off those defenses, right,
and so that left him open, right. But you get
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what I'm saying. I'm saying. Look, I'm not saying Mahomes
still can't chase Brady and maybe be the goat. But
what I'm saying is Brady did it without terrific receivers.
So now, at least for the time being, Mahomes is
gonna have to do it without terrific receivers. And let's
see if he can and that'll determine a lot going forward.
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How surprised would you be, Chris, I'm just it's just hypothetical.
If I don't know, this year in the division, maybe
they fall down enough they don't make the playoffs, would
that change anything? And would would that just be like
U you know, they gotta regroup and figure it out
and they can still get back there. Like if it's
that monumental where they go from nearly being in the
(30:09):
super Bowl those three years in a row whatever to
not making the playoffs. No, I mean, it wouldn't It
wouldn't change my view that the window. Let's put it
that way. It's still Yeah. I think the window, like
I said with Aaron Rodgers with Manning when he was
in Indianapolis, like whenever you have all time great right,
(30:32):
all time great quarterbacks, I think the windows open in general,
Like even when Rodgers rob remember before the last years
with McCarthy and they didn't make the playoffs. The Rodgers
was a little banged up, but he was playing for
the most part. I didn't think like he's done, you
know what I mean, the window isn't open anymore. And
(30:52):
then they get in the floor and you know, Rogers
takes off again. So I think the window is gonna
be open for a daycade But and there might be
a year or two when they don't make the playoffs.
Remember Brady didn't make it the year after they won
the Super Bowl, and Brady win a decade without winning
a Super Bowl. People forget that. I think Brady's had
(31:14):
two separate kind of careers, Chris, you know, the first
one when they won the what is the three out
of four or something or three out of five whatever,
and then that the ten years went by and then
they won again. They started winning again, so right, I mean,
they was still good in those teams because they lost
tight giants during those ten years, but they didn't win right, right, right, So,
(31:37):
like I said, I think what would be stunning is
if my homes just had a bad year. That would
be concerning. And I don't even think and I'm not
even talking about rob Like you know, last year at
times people thought he was down here and you know
he was up there and interceptions, but he still was
throwing a lot of touchdowns, you know what I mean.
(31:57):
Like it wasn't like it was bad maybe by his standards,
but it overall it was a good year. I'm just
talking about if he just wasn't, like even on the
level of Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers and you know,
the top quarterbacks, if he just was wayed below them, Um,
(32:19):
that would stun me, and you know, maybe give me
some pause. But I expect him to play. Well, we'll see.
You know, Nick Wright brought up the first hour. You
know they're gonna use these picks on two things, receivers
and defense, and that's what they need. They need. Obviously
we saw at the end of the year Chris, that
(32:40):
bad loss to the Bengals. Uh, you know when they
could have got the number one s in the AFC.
Remember that in second half the defense gave it up
and and then obviously the Bengals in the in the
playoff game, you know, like, and I get it, my
Homes through the pic. It's hard when you put the
defense in that as far as the game winner, right,
(33:00):
But but they were ahead in that game too, right,
and in that playoff game, no doubt, and see and
they're not. I don't think they're gonna have the offense
ride to bail that defense out, Like, I don't think.
I mean, how many times was Mahomes scrambling and heaves
it up and Tyreek makes a huge play, or even
(33:21):
a short pass to Tyreek that he turns into a
big play, you know, I mean, that's gone
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