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anything in the world of sports. I'm not we haven't
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give up. Give us a trash talking Tuesday. It is
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know that I tried the NBA. I on dead spend
this afterprise surprise because the MLB were gonna try. MLB
I've done it already, but I tried the NBA because
of all the blowouts after after that terrible blowout on
the Pacers and the thunder Chris that that fifty seven
point loss. That was ridiculous. Yeah, and we've talked about it, right,
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I don't know what you can do though, it's the
point shot, you know what I'm saying. And obviously you
I mean the thunder Man look and Sam Presty. Look.
He drafted Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell Westbrook. He put
together some really good teams out there in Oklahoma. But Rob,
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it looks like they're about to go through a dry spell. Yeah,
it looks pretty. It's pretty ugly, no doubt about it. Yeah,
and so um they had. But you know that must
keep him up at night, Rob, that you had those
three and you didn't get one ring out of it.
You didn't get anything that it's painful. That as hurts
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my goodness all You're like he had all of them
together and they couldn't. That just it just didn't. If
you wouldn't, you don't have any you know, you couldn't
keep it together. You couldn't win a championship when they
were there. They did out of the finals. But that
that's not good enough, like like not not with that talent.
Absolutely and one of them, of course Russell Westbrook. Now
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he is in Washington doing things. Rob. When I'm gonna
make a statement that you just don't make very often
in professional sports, forget basketball, football, baseball, professional sports period,
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Russell Westbrook is doing things we've never seen before. He
when you can do something Rob, no one else in
the history of the sport has done, and that is
to average a triple double in multiple seasons. He's about
to do it for his fourth time. And I get you.
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We talked about the first hour. He ain't the second
greatest point guard that ever played, as Scotty Brooks said,
I don't even think he's top five, Rob, He's very good.
He's All of Famer icon legend. David Audrey said, he's
certainly top five. I don't even think he's top five,
but you know, I'd have to think about it. But
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it's maybe, but he has to fight for that fifth spot.
But still, Rob, what he is doing cannot be understated.
And I know the triple doubles become understated right because
he's done it so much. Right after a while, I'd say,
you always love ice cream, right until you start working
at the ice cream factory. Then all of a sudden,
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christs it just doesn't have the same appeal to you.
It doesn't. You know, you're not craving it or wanting it.
You're like, whatever, I can have it whenever I want.
So it doesn't have that feel. Yeah, and so people
have gotten used to it. He won the MVP the
first year. They gotta think he was they were the
sixth seed. But I voted for him because I this
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is it was historic for him, the average a triple double,
especially being six three, and now he's gonna do it
for the fourth straight time. He won't get any MVP vote.
So um, but yeah, he robbed. When you can do
stuff something he won't get the MVP. No, he will, right,
I mean, but but think about what you just said.
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He's doing stuff we've never seen. Oh, he won't get
an the MVP. Think about Look and when you're doing
stuff that Will Chamberlain did rob, which is to have
twenty twenty games as far as rebounds in the this
it's saying something because Will Chamberlain was just his numbers
were otherworldly. I called the NBA Record Book Rob, the
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biography of Will Chamberlain. Right, he did stuff, will never
see fifty points a game, forty four points a game,
twenty seven rebounds a game. We're never nobody's ever gonna
touch that stuff a hundred points in the game. And
Russell Westbrook is actually doing things that the big old
and Oscar Robertson and Will Chamberlain did so props to him,
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but don't get it twisted. He's not the second best
point guard of all time. And I said in the
first hour, Rob, I said, now, if it was just
about numbers, and you want to talk about nobody else
could average a triple double. Okay, fine, But if it
was just about numbers, Will Chamberlain will be the goal, right,
And it ain't just about numbers, right right? All right? Um,
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speaking of numbers, Damian Lillard and robbed there clearly. And
Lillard addressed this. He was on the Dan Patrick Show
this morning and he addressed, uh, the story that our
friend Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports wrote a few days
ago basically about Dame needing help, Dame being so loyal
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in Portland and you know they gotta get him help
or kind of an or else implication, and really it
was implying and Yo, Dame's getting frustrated. I wonder who
gave him that. I wonder where that came from? The Blazers,
right right, hello, is this on? Let's see where did
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he get this story from? As reporters, Chris, we do
know absolutely, you know, you try to like cloak it
like people are saying or people inside the organization, right okay,
you ever you know where that came from. And Dame, look,
he's kind of on. It's almost like a Russell Wilson
mission in that, you know, Russell Wilson went on the
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Day Patrick Show and talked about his you know, being unhappy.
Now Dame didn't go that far as to say he's unhappy,
but he did talk about, like, hey, I want to
win here here he is. I would say this like
the it's how greatness is defined by I guess the world.
You know, people would say how many rings and how
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many of this and how many of that? And like,
I know my story, you know, I know I had
to scratch and claude and fight and earn everything that
I have. So I want to win the championship as
bad as anybody. Since my second year, we've been in
the playoffs every year, been a three seed twice, We've
been to the Western Conference finals and where I'm at
in my career is like to get to that next
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level is like you can't continue to just be okay
with oh, we're making the playoffs. You know you're working hard,
and you know at some point you gotta just be like,
it's time to go for it. I wanted to experience
that championship level. And that's where the frustration comes in.
Where it's when it's like, you know I want that, Well,
there it is. I've said it robbed for for years.
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The only thing that Damian Lillard can do to take
his legacy and his reputation and all that to the
next levels win a championship. That's it. I mean, he's
a great individual player, Rob I think I don't know
where you are on this. I think he's gonna be
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a Hall of Famer. I think he's easily a Hall
of Famer. And he's averaging twenty nine points a game
this year or twenty eight point four seven and a
half dimes last year average thirty and eight. I mean,
he is one of the absolute greatest point guards in
the league right now, that has been for the last
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decade or so, or close. And there's that's the only
way he's not He doesn't get the love that a
Steph Curry gets. Why Steph's got championships and that's the
next level. And he's always rib being about and I
respect this, but he's always been about you know, I'm
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gonna stay in Portland. I you know, I want to
win one for the city of Portland, blah blah blah.
And I respect the loyalty and all that, but if
he wants the indeed get that championship, I do think
he's going to have to join a super team. It's
just I mean, Kevin give his his uh. If he's
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joining two other stars, I don't know how that. I mean, yes,
I'll have a championship, but I don't know if that
really impacts him where you think, oh yeah, oh you
remember that time Dame uh joined uh these other two
guys and got a championship. No, it would be about
the other guys, which is fine. I'm not against him.
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When Karl Malone left Utah AFT all those years to
try to back door championship with Coach with Kobe and
Shack and that didn't work out, but he tried to
do it. I get that, Chris. I'm not mad at him.
Whatever he wants to do. That's his career. But I
don't think that's going to alter the player of what
people look at him. If he winds up going somewhere else,
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I don't think that that that. I don't think a
championship in his case as a third wheel height wheel.
But see you're assuming he would be a third wheel. Yeah,
I'm thinking. I mean, he could be the second wheel.
I don't know if he's I mean, I'm just you know,
would he be the first wheel? Probably not. I mean,
we could go through the different possible scenarios, but I
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would but I would disagree Rob because I would say this.
Kevin Durant, it changed his legacy. Now we know he
was the best player, but that team had won a championship,
they had won seventy three games without him, But it
changed his legacy. Kevin Garnett, Remember Gardinette didn't want to
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leave mine Ansolda. He had to be like Coax, didn't
taking that trade to Boston. He finally goes there and
he's like, man, this is like he loved it playing
for championships, winning the championship, being in a factor every year,
and it changed. I mean, he always liked like Lillard,
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he was gonna be a Hall of Famer, but it
certainly raised his profile even more. And I think Rob,
this year, James Harden if he wins it. Now, I
think we both feel like he's kind of the key
because of the way he plays. But Durant's generally viewed
and gonna be viewed as the best of the three.
You already saw Durant against Milwaukee with the forty two
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or whatever he had the other night. You know what
I mean, Like like, there's a good chance that Durant,
like you, will be that main guy. And it doesn't
mean that Harden if he comes up with some big
shots Chris and plays well as the point guard and
and and that team is rolling. I don't know what
if they would if Harden leads the way and he's
the point, could lead it because remember they're they're seven
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and seven. Rob g correct me if I'm wrong. You
know what their record is. When Kyrie and Durant play
without Harden seven and seven and they're losing the night
to Milwaukee. Hardened is the key because of his playmaker. Kyrie,
as great as he is, and he's awesome, he don't
run the offense like Harden. He's doesn't run it like Harden.
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He's not as good as run the offense, and it
affects the whole team. So but Hardened, let's stick with it.
He's the secon. Let's say he's the second best player
on this team. If don't you think this is gonna
change his legacy? Though, Let's say Durant leads him, wins
the finals MVP and it's clearly the man, but Hardened
played great and and they win it. Don't you think
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that will affect his legacy a little bit? I don't
think he's gonna like leap frog him over, and he'll
still be thought of as a guy who joined two
other stars and it was I just don't I don't
think that that would put him over the top. Everybody
would know what his talent is. Chris. I don't think
he would alter anybody's point of view other than that
he did win a championship of man, he was lower.
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You know, the team was loaded, you know what I mean.
I don't think it's I think it's totally different if
he would have led a team in Houston and he
was the main focus. I'll give you. I'll give you that,
but you'll still just like it would have been different
for Durant to lead O KAC, but you still it
still has yeah, away from right, But I'm just saying
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the impact isn't as big as if you do it
kind of on your own and you're that main guy.
But I don't as great as name is and Rob,
there are very few normal to use that word size
point guards have led teams to championships. Steph Curry, Isaiah Thomas,
and gust Williams in Seattle. That's it. So it's it takes.
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I mean, you got to be the elite of the
elite to lead a team as a point guard, a
small point guard other than Magic Johnson to the championship.
And so I don't think Dame can do it in Portland.
And they're also not gonna get probably get the free
agent superstar there either. So all right, Anthony Davis is wrong.
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The Lakers are not back. We'll get into that next. Sorry,
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trash talking Tuesday. So in about ten minutes you can
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all right, bring it. Rob Parker set the tone on
despin dot com today he trashed the NBA. Surprise the blowouts.
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Come on, Chris, that was ridiculous. Can you imagine if
you paid money for that? At one point, the thunder
were down sixty seven points. Hey, the other team came
to play. Man, what you're gonna do? Sometimes you just hot, Chris.
Have you ever been to a game where somebody was
just the Knicks? When I never seen it was MLK day,
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they were never sixty seven, that's Rob. When you and
I covered the NBA, I had games right where the
final score was like sixty seven sixty five. Don't don't forget.
During the two thousand and four Pistons run, Chris and
you know I covered just about every game that season.
They they held thirteen games in the row under seventy points, right,
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thirteen games in a row. Think about that? Back then, Man. Yeah,
and that's I mean, it was rugged back there, but
I liked the scoring. They were always trying to figure
out how we gonna get more points in the game. Scoring,
But that era, it was tough and it was physical,
all right. Yeah. Um, last night, speaking of defense, Rob,
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I'm gonna say this, you're off the Lakers. I'm not
off of them. I'm I got concerns obviously, but they
d up Man and last night without Lebron, they held
one a top five offense in Denver to eighty nine points.
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And so why couldn't they do that against the Kings?
And why couldn't they do that? I don't know, But
they're the number one ranked defense in the league. So
I mean that'd be like me saying why couldn't Denver
score against the Lakers? You know, like so you have nights.
I'm not saying there. I'm just saying they are a
great defensive team. They play very good defense, and if
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they can get it is a big if because now
the reports are that Lebron's gonna miss the next two games.
I don't know if you saw that you're gonna miss
problem likely to miss the next two games, and you
know it could be more than that. So I think
that that I might actually think the Lakers are smart.
I really do. Yeah, because it's best to get him healthy, right,
regardless him healthy. If he's not healthy, Chris and he's
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gonna play on it, you have a chance of him
re injuring right, and then he's no good for the
playoffs at all. So I think you, even if you
drop into the sixth slot or whatever happens, that was
a big win at least to stem the tide. But
I think what they're doing is the right thing. Yeah. Yeah,
so they but they won last night, as I said,
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against Denver big upset um Anthony Davis. After the game,
he said to KCP Cantavia's card Will Pope's teammate, you
know you people caught him saying we're back, We're back. Now.
I'm gonna say this right. First of all, you're not back,
all right, Slow down, dude. You had a nice game.
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It was a stepping the right direction. You're still not
playing like you did last year, but stepp in the
right direction, hit the big shot late. Obviously, Lebron's not healthy,
so you're not back. But I'm gonna say this, Rob.
I like his attitude. I like a d rilling up
his teammates, like, Yo, man, we back. Yeah, this is
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what I'm talking about. We do this. We lock dudes down.
I like all that. Now, if he had come out
in the postgame press conference and been like, oh, we're back.
Y'all been dissing us. I've been saying the Lakers aren't this,
they aren't that, we are back, then I would have
had a problem because you're not back, but you know,
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getting your teammates charged up. I'm cool with that. No,
I understand there's a big difference between the two. But
it's just funny that he would even say that. I
get being excited to win a game like that we
talked about on the show. I kept saying that they
were gonna lose, and you were like, I don't know.
I mean, you didn't. You weren't ready to you know,
you never the NBA. Anything didn't get happen, you know,
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but I was ready to bury them with no Lebron.
Just the way that they had been playing, you know what.
I mean that that's what really made me not think
that they could beat Denver. I really was just like
they played so poorly against Toronto and the Kings went
out there two best players. I was just like, oh,
that's a bad matchup. But that's why, you know, everybody
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in Vegas put a gazillion dollars down. Or seriously, Chris, like,
every time you think something looks at obvious, right, don't
tell me that guys didn't run to the Vegas and
put a lot of money down thinking Denver would beat them, right,
no doubt, right right? Or or you know, yeah, I
wish I had on the Lakers, but right, let me
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and I said this when we were talking to carry Kills,
and I know you got the Clippers, So maybe to
you it's just a moot point. But do you admit
rob And I know how tough the West is, but
I'm not scared of Utah. I'm not saying they can't
beat They're good, okay, but they got their injury problem
with Donovan Mitchell and even with him, like you know,
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they're Rudy Gobert is a star, but he doesn't score.
They got other guys Jordan Clarkson and Bugdanovich and you know,
guys that can play, but you know they're not star
laden Phoenix. Yes, Chris Paul's playing tremendously but he's a
little older. Devin Booker, this will be his first and
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DeAndre ad and this will be their first playoff experience.
So you know, it's hard to see them make it
running the table. You know, um Denver we saw last night.
I'm not saying they're not a very good team. They are,
but their second best player, Rob Michael Porter Jr. Is
twenty two. I guess you know what I'm saying. Now.
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The Clippers are a different animal. The one thing with
them though, is Kyrie. I don't think I don't know
how serious it is, but yeah, I'm sorry Kauhi's playing
through this foot injury. Now. Again, it might not be
a big deal, but you know what I'm saying, Right
if if it's if it big flares up or he
really gets hurt, I mean, that could derail them, right
if he but he took some time off, if he
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gets it back, uh, you know, maybe maybe it writes
the ship. It there's a lot of things. It's just
too many injuries and too many questionable things, you know
what I mean. And now a lot of the team
about a lot of teams, and that's what bothers me
about the Lakers most is that you know the guy
that Lebron is the is the key. Uh and if
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he's not one hundred percent healthy, I just think that
they're a bigger question mark. I think they look and
we saw a right Rob two years ago when he
came back and he wasn't himself. I mean, he's gonna
put up numbers, right, he didn't have the impact we
thought he would have. Remember that everybody would like, here
we go, here we goes with the run, Lebron's back
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with the young guys. It didn't happen. They look you,
what was the record? You say it all the thirteen
thirteen That's what I playing back healthy quote on some
of them bad. Some of those were bad teams. So
all right, we got Dave damn Check from the Extra
Points podcast Network coming up next, one of my teams
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I don't know. I have three. I have one of
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but this is too much pleasantry for trash talk Tuesdays.
That's right about that. People who do post NFL draft graves.
How about Tom Wilson of the Washington Capital. We can
go on and on tonight. I get into it all right, Dave.
You've been big on Aaron Rodgers in Denver. Now, of
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course the packers have come out and said they're not
trading him. Talk about if you really think he's gonna
wind up there and why well, you know, I'm reading
the team, he leaves. If you look at the way
things have broken in the last what is it you
know less than a week now? You know, we hear
that he wants out and it's not jet I want
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a wide receiver. I feel betrayed. That is the faith
of the organization. You didn't consult me before Jordan Love
and so on and so forth. And also if you're
the franchise, I get that you can't be held hostage,
even by the best player you've had since Brett Farber,
maybe even better than Brett Farbor. But on the other hand,
they did it to themselves, and I think that's what
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gets let them off the hook to say we did
take Jordan Love, with Jordan Love taking over for Aaron
Rodgers in mind, if Rogers isn't gonna suit up for them, Yeah,
I think the best smoke that I see here to
my hypothesis is that the Denver Broncos, in a division
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that includes Patrick Mahomes and now Justin Herbert, took a
core her back with the ninth overall picks. With Justin
Fields or Mac Jones. We can have that separate conversation
about whether you like Fields or Jones better, but either way,
of course they would have taken a quarterback. They don't
think Teddy b or Drew Locke is the long term
answer to shoot it out with Mahomes or Herbert. Obviously,
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this says to me that the Packers know that that
the cap hit or that yeah, the significant right well,
and the packers, the Packers have much more of a
financial hit if they trade Rogers before June one. I
bet you four seconds into into the month of June,
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Aaron Rodgers is on the Broncos, right, and then why
would why would the Broncos not have taken why would
they have taken a corner back with Justine? So you'll
think the deals already essentially agreed to imprinciple. I mean,
I don't know if that is in violation of some
collusion or whatever. But Mark Schwayert is pretty plugged in.
I think we can agree he knows what's going on
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with the Broncos. For him to float that report, the
float that he knows that a deal is as close
as a deal can be, that says to me that
somebody closed in said, hey, Mark, let's not talk about
that until June rolls around. Let's the only Dave, Dave,
I'm with you, and and stink is plugged in. I
he knows his football, he knows the Broncos. He lives
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in Denver, he has a long running radio show. So
but the only thing that bothered me, and I brought
this up to Chris, was he threw in the caveat
you know, it could fall apart like like it wasn't
it wasn't where uh you know, Peter Vessey said Lebron
James was going to the Lakers. You remember that, Chris, right,
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And he didn't hedge the bet. It was like he's
going there. It's it's done, and he's gonna wind up there.
And that's the only thing I'm still not sure, Dave.
I hear what you're saying. It all makes sense. I
just think that there there are people there who I
think are afraid to pull the trigger on that because
I'm not so sure they believe Jordan Love will put
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them in the position where they where they're in now.
And once you do that, and if things go the
other way, it could cost people that people's their jobs. Oh,
I completely agree with you about that, But I also
think you know it's people say, well, you know, time
heals all wounds. And whether you like some of the
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political figures that we've had around the US of A
in the last five years or so. One thing we
could all learn is like this cannot this is gonna
fall apart, This is all gonna blow up, And as
long as you just keep kicking it down the road
by another week, in another month, it does seem like
people kind of forget about things and move on. Maybe
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that's what they're banking on with Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't
sound like that's what Aaron Rodgers is gonna do. That
he's gonna get over this. And let's say they he
does show up that it's like I'm thirty seven and
I see my football mortality. I see the finish line
and maybe I can scratch out a Super Bowl here.
But man, that is less. Like I say, that's far
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from ideal for Aaron Rodgers to go in there and
play ball in training camp and in the regular season
with guys that in the front office that he doesn't
respect it, he doesn't want to be working with. If
things start to get sideways, I hear you about the
front office will have a stink on it for trading
away Aaron Rodgers. But what if the Packers come out
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flat and Aaron Rodgers is belly aching, and he can
be dodgy. You know, he's not an alpha male in
line with Dan Marino or what we imagine most NFL
successful qbs to be. He's got the nuanced sort of
personality and everything, and it seems like he operates with
a bit of a chip on his shoulder and everything else,
which is fine because I operate the same way. I'm
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not disparaging Aaron Rodgers, but I could definitely see him,
you know, make and some petulant remarks along the way,
and then it's even worse for the Packard front offensive
if it's October November of twenty one and that sort
of stuff is going on. Dave quickly, we got thirty seconds.
What do you see happening in San Francisco with Garoppolo?
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Shanahan came out said he'll be the starter. You think
that's the deal or that deal trading? Well, I think
there is a clear line that there's a trend among
high end, superstar future Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Russell Wilson
is trying to get treat Tom Brady left Tampa last year.
Now Rogers wants out. They're always headaches as long as
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you're a first ballot Hall of Fame level QB. Jimmy
Ge gets that he ain't that guy, so he better
play ball. He better be the good guy and groom
Trey Lance to take over for him, because Jimmy Ge
wants to play somewhere else in the league and he
ain't at the level of the guys I was just
talking about. He gets that, he knows he has to
be a good soldier in the short term to help
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Trey Lance and make that adition work so that he
has a good job in one of the thirty one
other football towns. All right, that's Dave damashek dropping knowledge.
He's the Extra Points podcast network host. You can check
him out on the Extra Points podcast and the Minus
three podcast. Great stuff, Dave, Thanks hey, big fan of
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the show, and you guys individually appreciate you having me.
Thank you appreciate it. Alright, Trash Talking Tuesday is next.
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the Fox Sports Radio studios. It's time, folks, trash talk
trash Talking Tuesday. It's a teeth Reggy. I don't know
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whether the smile. Let's you kick a field go man?
All right, do it? Eight seventy seven. Yep. Let's start
with John and San Diego. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. John, who you trash a couple
even money dynamic duo from San Diego? What what o? Man?
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Thank you? The energy? No man, love you guys, love
the flavor, loved energy. What's up? Whatever you always say?
Philip River, this Philip Blake, Phillip stream is. It's all
pro Hall of Fame quarterback. You put any car sales,
but on the car last fifteen years. They're gonna tell
carn he never won, He wasn't crush, he didn't do nothing.
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So what do working kids? I don't care. What did
you do? Did you win? No? Where does it came? Now?
La really go with earth? Goodbye? Nah nice. He was
holding on to that for the Philip Rivers. Yeah, he
was sure it was Let's go to Russell in Baltimore.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Russell.
(33:10):
Who you're trashing Zach Wilson. Guys, Zach Wilson, Wow, I
love you guys. First, I want to tell you guys
to love your show. You guys are fantastic, both of you.
But Zack Wilson is a clown. He liked some posts
that criticize athletes who voiced their protest during at the anthem.
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He also liked posts that supported crazy conspiracy theories. He shown,
he's shown he's not very smart. This is not you know,
and here it's the same old Jets man. They didn't
do their homework. This is not gonna go very good
with his teammates. Um Jets to not do their homework.
Zach Wilson is tone death and stupid. Thank you very
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much that ron. I didn't know that, but you know
that they've they've they do all the research on your
Twitter and all the stuff that you've done. They couldn't admissed.
But yeah, he's right. If it becomes an issue, you know,
like if it out publicly, um, yeah, people will have
to write you know, once they see that stuff, they'll
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be like I gotta find Like, I don't know what
to think about him unless he rives me differently, you
know what I mean? Like it's guarded all right? Max
and Georgia, you're on the eye couple of Fox Sports
Radio who you're trash? And Max, I'm trashing the clutch
busters and their false narrative that Lebron makes teammates better
when we just saw last night, AD played better without
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him and the teams played loose without him All year,
Guys like Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, Julius Randall, Rons the Ball,
Jordan Clarkson are all playing better on their new respective
teams without him. How many real Laker fans would like
to have that starting five going into this year's playoffs?
You tweeted, the weather man predicts a thunderstorm is coming?
The hell with a thunderst Where is Hurricane Broun? I
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am an outdoorsman. I don't feel the wind and I
don't hear the rain, looking man, My man, Max the
most predictable caller in America. You're better than that. You're
better than that. Max. Max is you know what Max is?
Like a weatherman in LA The forecast is the same
and I love it. Max every single time, Mace and oh,
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here we go. How you're going to the same thing
he's gonna trash Howard co sal has been dead for
twenty five years, all right, Mason san Diego who you trashed?
Andre Rises? In nineteen ninety five, you signed a five year,
seventeen million dollar contract with the Cleveland Browns at the
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time made you the highest paid receiver in NFL history.
Despite the big PAYDA, you are a complete bust in
that seat, and you had career loans with forty seven receptions,
seven hundred one yards, three touchdowns, two point nine receptions
per game, and forty three point joy yards per game.
Not to mention your dysfunctional relationship with Lisa Lepti Lobes.
Despite her burning down to mansion, you continued with the
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relationship That is a textbook red flag burning your house down.
It's just one level tier psychosis below Lorrain of flowbing
and compounded by the fact you were featured on ESPN
thirty for thirty documentary bro despite being broke, you were
wearing expensive custom Aye Taylor suits during the whole documentary.
Is that as your fundances? Maybe I know you're dying
to get yourself a sugar mama. But I am begging you.
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I don't care how broke you are, if you have
any bit of dignity, whatever you do, don't completely ruin
your life by hooking up with a stupid kartashion. Look now,
Andre Rises rodre Van Moon Rises, right. I was in Cleveland,
just starting my career at the press conference at the
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play with the playing Dealer when Andre rise and signed
that deal. Is that right? I will say this. I'll
give me's credit. Chris. If if a love interest burned
my house down, I would be I don't think I can.
That's a that's a deal break, deal breaker. Yes, you
burnt my all right. It's one thing you burnt the
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toast for breakfast, but you burnt the house down because
you got Yeah, that's a deal breaker. That's a deal breaker.
I want to hear from you. Rob your trash on
the NBA. Yeah, it's just it's just the blowouts. The
NBA stands for another another blowout in the association, Chris.
That's what the NBA stands for, No another reach. It's
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a lower case on your or your or your trash start. Yeah,
it's on the video another they haven't they have the
little a capital and another there was a reason I
didn't watch it this. Yeah, there you go. You never
missed my trash truck. I'm a trash sky Brooks. I mean, Scottie,
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I get it. He's your man. He helped you in oksee,
he's helped you salvage the season and maybe your job
in Washington. But the second best point guard of all time,
you're better than that, Scott. I mean it makes me wonder,
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what don't you what's your criteria? What in the world
is your criteria? I guess he thinks Will Chamberlain's the goat, Rob,
and Will Chamberlain is awesome. But if you're saying Russell
Westbrook and here's the thing, Rob, why not just go
the length? That's what I said, right, Why not just
say he's better than magic? Right? How he knew he
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would be. He would be laughed out of the league, Chris.
He probably would. He probably would. I mean, this is
bad enough, but you're right, that would have. He might
have got a call from Adam Silver and be like, look,
you just you've got to go. You've got to go.
I made it through, my man, I made it through
the show. Yeah you sound better too, like your energy increased, Yeah,
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because it had me for a minute. Definitely. All right,
well you good job man, and I'm glad you got
the shot. Anybody else we recommend it. We're not doctors,
but hey, that's right. I'm fine. Rob took it, he's fine.
All right, keep it locked for Jason Smith and Mike
Harmon and we'll check you guys out tomorrow. It's the
Eye Couple signing off.
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a trash Talking Tuesday. And you know what that means,
that you get to call in and trash anyone or
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anything in the world of sports. I'm not we haven't
heard it today. I know he's a little bit under
the weather, but I want to hear Rob Parker, my partner,
give up. Give us a trash talking Tuesday. It is
a trash that's talking too. And I want you to
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know that I tried the NBA. I on dead spend
this afterprise surprise because the MLB were gonna try. MLB
I've done it already, but I tried the NBA because
of all the blowouts after after that terrible blowout on
the Pacers and the thunder Chris that that fifty seven
point loss. That was ridiculous. Yeah, and we've talked about it, right,
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I don't know what you can do though, it's the
point shot, you know what I'm saying. And obviously you
I mean the thunder Man look and Sam Presty. Look.
He drafted Kevin Durant, James Harden, Russell Westbrook. He put
together some really good teams out there in Oklahoma. But Rob,
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it looks like they're about to go through a dry spell. Yeah,
it looks pretty. It's pretty ugly, no doubt about it. Yeah,
and so um they had. But you know that must
keep him up at night, Rob, that you had those
three and you didn't get one ring out of it.
You didn't get anything that it's painful. That as hurts
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my goodness all You're like he had all of them
together and they couldn't. That just it just didn't. If
you wouldn't, you don't have any you know, you couldn't
keep it together. You couldn't win a championship when they
were there. They did out of the finals. But that
that's not good enough, like like not not with that talent.
Absolutely and one of them, of course Russell Westbrook. Now
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he is in Washington doing things. Rob. When I'm gonna
make a statement that you just don't make very often
in professional sports, forget basketball, football, baseball, professional sports period,
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Russell Westbrook is doing things we've never seen before. He
when you can do something Rob, no one else in
the history of the sport has done, and that is
to average a triple double in multiple seasons. He's about
to do it for his fourth time. And I get you.
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We talked about the first hour. He ain't the second
greatest point guard that ever played, as Scotty Brooks said,
I don't even think he's top five, Rob, He's very good.
He's All of Famer icon legend. David Audrey said, he's
certainly top five. I don't even think he's top five,
but you know, I'd have to think about it. But
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it's maybe, but he has to fight for that fifth spot.
But still, Rob, what he is doing cannot be understated.
And I know the triple doubles become understated right because
he's done it so much. Right after a while, I'd say,
you always love ice cream, right until you start working
at the ice cream factory. Then all of a sudden,
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christs it just doesn't have the same appeal to you.
It doesn't. You know, you're not craving it or wanting it.
You're like, whatever, I can have it whenever I want.
So it doesn't have that feel. Yeah, and so people
have gotten used to it. He won the MVP the
first year. They gotta think he was they were the
sixth seed. But I voted for him because I this
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is it was historic for him, the average a triple double,
especially being six three, and now he's gonna do it
for the fourth straight time. He won't get any MVP vote.
So um, but yeah, he robbed. When you can do
stuff something he won't get the MVP. No, he will, right,
I mean, but but think about what you just said.
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He's doing stuff we've never seen. Oh, he won't get
an the MVP. Think about Look and when you're doing
stuff that Will Chamberlain did rob, which is to have
twenty twenty games as far as rebounds in the this
it's saying something because Will Chamberlain was just his numbers
were otherworldly. I called the NBA Record Book Rob, the
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biography of Will Chamberlain. Right, he did stuff, will never
see fifty points a game, forty four points a game,
twenty seven rebounds a game. We're never nobody's ever gonna
touch that stuff a hundred points in the game. And
Russell Westbrook is actually doing things that the big old
and Oscar Robertson and Will Chamberlain did so props to him,
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but don't get it twisted. He's not the second best
point guard of all time. And I said in the
first hour, Rob, I said, now, if it was just
about numbers, and you want to talk about nobody else
could average a triple double. Okay, fine, But if it
was just about numbers, Will Chamberlain will be the goal, right,
And it ain't just about numbers, right right? All right? Um,
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speaking of numbers, Damian Lillard and robbed there clearly. And
Lillard addressed this. He was on the Dan Patrick Show
this morning and he addressed, uh, the story that our
friend Chris Haynes of Yahoo Sports wrote a few days
ago basically about Dame needing help, Dame being so loyal
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in Portland and you know they gotta get him help
or kind of an or else implication, and really it
was implying and Yo, Dame's getting frustrated. I wonder who
gave him that. I wonder where that came from? The Blazers,
right right, hello, is this on? Let's see where did
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he get this story from? As reporters, Chris, we do
know absolutely, you know, you try to like cloak it
like people are saying or people inside the organization, right okay,
you ever you know where that came from. And Dame, look,
he's kind of on. It's almost like a Russell Wilson
mission in that, you know, Russell Wilson went on the
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Day Patrick Show and talked about his you know, being unhappy.
Now Dame didn't go that far as to say he's unhappy,
but he did talk about, like, hey, I want to
win here here he is. I would say this like
the it's how greatness is defined by I guess the world.
You know, people would say how many rings and how
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many of this and how many of that? And like,
I know my story, you know, I know I had
to scratch and claude and fight and earn everything that
I have. So I want to win the championship as
bad as anybody. Since my second year, we've been in
the playoffs every year, been a three seed twice, We've
been to the Western Conference finals and where I'm at
in my career is like to get to that next
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level is like you can't continue to just be okay
with oh, we're making the playoffs. You know you're working hard,
and you know at some point you gotta just be like,
it's time to go for it. I wanted to experience
that championship level. And that's where the frustration comes in.
Where it's when it's like, you know I want that, Well,
there it is. I've said it robbed for for years.
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The only thing that Damian Lillard can do to take
his legacy and his reputation and all that to the
next levels win a championship. That's it. I mean, he's
a great individual player, Rob I think I don't know
where you are on this. I think he's gonna be
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a Hall of Famer. I think he's easily a Hall
of Famer. And he's averaging twenty nine points a game
this year or twenty eight point four seven and a
half dimes last year average thirty and eight. I mean,
he is one of the absolute greatest point guards in
the league right now, that has been for the last
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decade or so, or close. And there's that's the only
way he's not He doesn't get the love that a
Steph Curry gets. Why Steph's got championships and that's the
next level. And he's always rib being about and I
respect this, but he's always been about you know, I'm
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gonna stay in Portland. I you know, I want to
win one for the city of Portland, blah blah blah.
And I respect the loyalty and all that, but if
he wants the indeed get that championship, I do think
he's going to have to join a super team. It's
just I mean, Kevin give his his uh. If he's
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joining two other stars, I don't know how that. I mean, yes,
I'll have a championship, but I don't know if that
really impacts him where you think, oh yeah, oh you
remember that time Dame uh joined uh these other two
guys and got a championship. No, it would be about
the other guys, which is fine. I'm not against him.
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When Karl Malone left Utah AFT all those years to
try to back door championship with Coach with Kobe and
Shack and that didn't work out, but he tried to
do it. I get that, Chris. I'm not mad at him.
Whatever he wants to do. That's his career. But I
don't think that's going to alter the player of what
people look at him. If he winds up going somewhere else,
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I don't think that that that. I don't think a
championship in his case as a third wheel height wheel.
But see you're assuming he would be a third wheel. Yeah,
I'm thinking. I mean, he could be the second wheel.
I don't know if he's I mean, I'm just you know,
would he be the first wheel? Probably not. I mean,
we could go through the different possible scenarios, but I
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would but I would disagree Rob because I would say this.
Kevin Durant, it changed his legacy. Now we know he
was the best player, but that team had won a championship,
they had won seventy three games without him, But it
changed his legacy. Kevin Garnett, Remember Gardinette didn't want to
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leave mine Ansolda. He had to be like Coax, didn't
taking that trade to Boston. He finally goes there and
he's like, man, this is like he loved it playing
for championships, winning the championship, being in a factor every year,
and it changed. I mean, he always liked like Lillard,
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he was gonna be a Hall of Famer, but it
certainly raised his profile even more. And I think Rob,
this year, James Harden if he wins it. Now, I
think we both feel like he's kind of the key
because of the way he plays. But Durant's generally viewed
and gonna be viewed as the best of the three.
You already saw Durant against Milwaukee with the forty two
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or whatever he had the other night. You know what
I mean, Like like, there's a good chance that Durant,
like you, will be that main guy. And it doesn't
mean that Harden if he comes up with some big
shots Chris and plays well as the point guard and
and and that team is rolling. I don't know what
if they would if Harden leads the way and he's
the point, could lead it because remember they're they're seven
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and seven. Rob g correct me if I'm wrong. You
know what their record is. When Kyrie and Durant play
without Harden seven and seven and they're losing the night
to Milwaukee. Hardened is the key because of his playmaker. Kyrie,
as great as he is, and he's awesome, he don't
run the offense like Harden. He's doesn't run it like Harden.
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He's not as good as run the offense, and it
affects the whole team. So but Hardened, let's stick with it.
He's the secon. Let's say he's the second best player
on this team. If don't you think this is gonna
change his legacy? Though, Let's say Durant leads him, wins
the finals MVP and it's clearly the man, but Hardened
played great and and they win it. Don't you think
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that will affect his legacy a little bit? I don't
think he's gonna like leap frog him over, and he'll
still be thought of as a guy who joined two
other stars and it was I just don't I don't
think that that would put him over the top. Everybody
would know what his talent is. Chris. I don't think
he would alter anybody's point of view other than that
he did win a championship of man, he was lower.
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You know, the team was loaded, you know what I mean.
I don't think it's I think it's totally different if
he would have led a team in Houston and he
was the main focus. I'll give you. I'll give you that,
but you'll still just like it would have been different
for Durant to lead O KAC, but you still it
still has yeah, away from right, But I'm just saying
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the impact isn't as big as if you do it
kind of on your own and you're that main guy.
But I don't as great as name is and Rob,
there are very few normal to use that word size
point guards have led teams to championships. Steph Curry, Isaiah Thomas,
and gust Williams in Seattle. That's it. So it's it takes.
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I mean, you got to be the elite of the
elite to lead a team as a point guard, a
small point guard other than Magic Johnson to the championship.
And so I don't think Dame can do it in Portland.
And they're also not gonna get probably get the free
agent superstar there either. So all right, Anthony Davis is wrong.
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The Lakers are not back. We'll get into that next. Sorry,
Rob g it's the Eye Couple. Fox Sports Radio. Be
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trash talking Tuesday. So in about ten minutes you can
call in and trash anyone or anything in the world
of sports. You get thirty to forty seconds, So come correct,
all right, bring it. Rob Parker set the tone on
despin dot com today he trashed the NBA. Surprise the blowouts.
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Come on, Chris, that was ridiculous. Can you imagine if
you paid money for that? At one point, the thunder
were down sixty seven points. Hey, the other team came
to play. Man, what you're gonna do? Sometimes you just hot, Chris.
Have you ever been to a game where somebody was
just the Knicks? When I never seen it was MLK day,
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they were never sixty seven, that's Rob. When you and
I covered the NBA, I had games right where the
final score was like sixty seven sixty five. Don't don't forget.
During the two thousand and four Pistons run, Chris and
you know I covered just about every game that season.
They they held thirteen games in the row under seventy points, right,
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thirteen games in a row. Think about that? Back then, Man. Yeah,
and that's I mean, it was rugged back there, but
I liked the scoring. They were always trying to figure
out how we gonna get more points in the game. Scoring,
But that era, it was tough and it was physical,
all right. Yeah. Um, last night, speaking of defense, Rob,
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I'm gonna say this, you're off the Lakers. I'm not
off of them. I'm I got concerns obviously, but they
d up Man and last night without Lebron, they held
one a top five offense in Denver to eighty nine points.
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And so why couldn't they do that against the Kings?
And why couldn't they do that? I don't know, But
they're the number one ranked defense in the league. So
I mean that'd be like me saying why couldn't Denver
score against the Lakers? You know, like so you have nights.
I'm not saying there. I'm just saying they are a
great defensive team. They play very good defense, and if
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they can get it is a big if because now
the reports are that Lebron's gonna miss the next two games.
I don't know if you saw that you're gonna miss
problem likely to miss the next two games, and you
know it could be more than that. So I think
that that I might actually think the Lakers are smart.
I really do. Yeah, because it's best to get him healthy, right,
regardless him healthy. If he's not healthy, Chris and he's
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gonna play on it, you have a chance of him
re injuring right, and then he's no good for the
playoffs at all. So I think you, even if you
drop into the sixth slot or whatever happens, that was
a big win at least to stem the tide. But
I think what they're doing is the right thing. Yeah. Yeah,
so they but they won last night, as I said,
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against Denver big upset um Anthony Davis. After the game,
he said to KCP Cantavia's card Will Pope's teammate, you
know you people caught him saying we're back, We're back. Now.
I'm gonna say this right. First of all, you're not back,
all right, Slow down, dude. You had a nice game.
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It was a stepping the right direction. You're still not
playing like you did last year, but stepp in the
right direction, hit the big shot late. Obviously, Lebron's not healthy,
so you're not back. But I'm gonna say this, Rob.
I like his attitude. I like a d rilling up
his teammates, like, Yo, man, we back. Yeah, this is
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what I'm talking about. We do this. We lock dudes down.
I like all that. Now, if he had come out
in the postgame press conference and been like, oh, we're back.
Y'all been dissing us. I've been saying the Lakers aren't this,
they aren't that, we are back, then I would have
had a problem because you're not back, but you know,
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getting your teammates charged up. I'm cool with that. No,
I understand there's a big difference between the two. But
it's just funny that he would even say that. I
get being excited to win a game like that we
talked about on the show. I kept saying that they
were gonna lose, and you were like, I don't know.
I mean, you didn't. You weren't ready to you know,
you never the NBA. Anything didn't get happen, you know,
(19:01):
but I was ready to bury them with no Lebron.
Just the way that they had been playing, you know what.
I mean that that's what really made me not think
that they could beat Denver. I really was just like
they played so poorly against Toronto and the Kings went
out there two best players. I was just like, oh,
that's a bad matchup. But that's why, you know, everybody
(19:21):
in Vegas put a gazillion dollars down. Or seriously, Chris, like,
every time you think something looks at obvious, right, don't
tell me that guys didn't run to the Vegas and
put a lot of money down thinking Denver would beat them, right,
no doubt, right right? Or or you know, yeah, I
wish I had on the Lakers, but right, let me
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and I said this when we were talking to carry Kills,
and I know you got the Clippers, So maybe to
you it's just a moot point. But do you admit
rob And I know how tough the West is, but
I'm not scared of Utah. I'm not saying they can't
beat They're good, okay, but they got their injury problem
with Donovan Mitchell and even with him, like you know,
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they're Rudy Gobert is a star, but he doesn't score.
They got other guys Jordan Clarkson and Bugdanovich and you know,
guys that can play, but you know they're not star
laden Phoenix. Yes, Chris Paul's playing tremendously but he's a
little older. Devin Booker, this will be his first and
(20:25):
DeAndre ad and this will be their first playoff experience.
So you know, it's hard to see them make it
running the table. You know, um Denver we saw last night.
I'm not saying they're not a very good team. They are,
but their second best player, Rob Michael Porter Jr. Is
twenty two. I guess you know what I'm saying. Now.
(20:46):
The Clippers are a different animal. The one thing with
them though, is Kyrie. I don't think I don't know
how serious it is, but yeah, I'm sorry Kauhi's playing
through this foot injury. Now. Again, it might not be
a big deal, but you know what I'm saying, Right
if if it's if it big flares up or he
really gets hurt, I mean, that could derail them, right
if he but he took some time off, if he
(21:07):
gets it back, uh, you know, maybe maybe it writes
the ship. It there's a lot of things. It's just
too many injuries and too many questionable things, you know
what I mean. And now a lot of the team
about a lot of teams, and that's what bothers me
about the Lakers most is that you know the guy
that Lebron is the is the key. Uh and if
(21:31):
he's not one hundred percent healthy, I just think that
they're a bigger question mark. I think they look and
we saw a right Rob two years ago when he
came back and he wasn't himself. I mean, he's gonna
put up numbers, right, he didn't have the impact we
thought he would have. Remember that everybody would like, here
we go, here we goes with the run, Lebron's back
(21:53):
with the young guys. It didn't happen. They look you,
what was the record? You say it all the thirteen
thirteen That's what I playing back healthy quote on some
of them bad. Some of those were bad teams. So
all right, we got Dave damn Check from the Extra
Points podcast Network coming up next, one of my teams
(22:13):
from the Extra Points podcast networks. You do, how many
podcasts do you have? At least three? Six? No? No,
I don't know. I have three. I have one of
the season with TJ houshman Zada, I have one with
Martin White eighteen. No, not that many. And then I
am inside the parker during baseball and then this the
(22:37):
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(23:42):
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Our guests. He's from the Extra Points Podcast Network. He's
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He does two podcasts. Dave damnascheck Dave, Welcome, Todada, Hey there, Fellas.
What's going on. Good to meet you, Chris Rob Great
(24:04):
to gibbets with you as always. As always, I just said,
one of my teammates from the Extra Points Podcast Network
with cousin sal and whatnot, love doing the podcast over there.
So it's great to have you on the radio show. Oh,
it's excellent in our mutual pal Martin doing big things
over there too. It's all coming up. Listen. We could,
(24:24):
but this is too much pleasantry for trash talk Tuesdays.
That's right about that. People who do post NFL draft graves.
How about Tom Wilson of the Washington Capital. We can
go on and on tonight. I get into it all right, Dave.
You've been big on Aaron Rodgers in Denver. Now, of
(24:49):
course the packers have come out and said they're not
trading him. Talk about if you really think he's gonna
wind up there and why well, you know, I'm reading
the team, he leaves. If you look at the way
things have broken in the last what is it you
know less than a week now? You know, we hear
that he wants out and it's not jet I want
(25:11):
a wide receiver. I feel betrayed. That is the faith
of the organization. You didn't consult me before Jordan Love
and so on and so forth. And also if you're
the franchise, I get that you can't be held hostage,
even by the best player you've had since Brett Farber,
maybe even better than Brett Farbor. But on the other hand,
they did it to themselves, and I think that's what
(25:34):
gets let them off the hook to say we did
take Jordan Love, with Jordan Love taking over for Aaron
Rodgers in mind, if Rogers isn't gonna suit up for them, Yeah,
I think the best smoke that I see here to
my hypothesis is that the Denver Broncos, in a division
(25:56):
that includes Patrick Mahomes and now Justin Herbert, took a
core her back with the ninth overall picks. With Justin
Fields or Mac Jones. We can have that separate conversation
about whether you like Fields or Jones better, but either way,
of course they would have taken a quarterback. They don't
think Teddy b or Drew Locke is the long term
answer to shoot it out with Mahomes or Herbert. Obviously,
(26:19):
this says to me that the Packers know that that
the cap hit or that yeah, the significant right well,
and the packers, the Packers have much more of a
financial hit if they trade Rogers before June one. I
bet you four seconds into into the month of June,
(26:39):
Aaron Rodgers is on the Broncos, right, and then why
would why would the Broncos not have taken why would
they have taken a corner back with Justine? So you'll
think the deals already essentially agreed to imprinciple. I mean,
I don't know if that is in violation of some
collusion or whatever. But Mark Schwayert is pretty plugged in.
I think we can agree he knows what's going on
(27:00):
with the Broncos. For him to float that report, the
float that he knows that a deal is as close
as a deal can be, that says to me that
somebody closed in said, hey, Mark, let's not talk about
that until June rolls around. Let's the only Dave, Dave,
I'm with you, and and stink is plugged in. I
he knows his football, he knows the Broncos. He lives
(27:22):
in Denver, he has a long running radio show. So
but the only thing that bothered me, and I brought
this up to Chris, was he threw in the caveat
you know, it could fall apart like like it wasn't
it wasn't where uh you know, Peter Vessey said Lebron
James was going to the Lakers. You remember that, Chris, right,
(27:43):
And he didn't hedge the bet. It was like he's
going there. It's it's done, and he's gonna wind up there.
And that's the only thing I'm still not sure, Dave.
I hear what you're saying. It all makes sense. I
just think that there there are people there who I
think are afraid to pull the trigger on that because
I'm not so sure they believe Jordan Love will put
(28:05):
them in the position where they where they're in now.
And once you do that, and if things go the
other way, it could cost people that people's their jobs. Oh,
I completely agree with you about that, But I also
think you know it's people say, well, you know, time
heals all wounds. And whether you like some of the
(28:27):
political figures that we've had around the US of A
in the last five years or so. One thing we
could all learn is like this cannot this is gonna
fall apart, This is all gonna blow up, And as
long as you just keep kicking it down the road
by another week, in another month, it does seem like
people kind of forget about things and move on. Maybe
(28:47):
that's what they're banking on with Aaron Rodgers. It doesn't
sound like that's what Aaron Rodgers is gonna do. That
he's gonna get over this. And let's say they he
does show up that it's like I'm thirty seven and
I see my football mortality. I see the finish line
and maybe I can scratch out a Super Bowl here.
But man, that is less. Like I say, that's far
(29:10):
from ideal for Aaron Rodgers to go in there and
play ball in training camp and in the regular season
with guys that in the front office that he doesn't
respect it, he doesn't want to be working with. If
things start to get sideways, I hear you about the
front office will have a stink on it for trading
away Aaron Rodgers. But what if the Packers come out
(29:31):
flat and Aaron Rodgers is belly aching, and he can
be dodgy. You know, he's not an alpha male in
line with Dan Marino or what we imagine most NFL
successful qbs to be. He's got the nuanced sort of
personality and everything, and it seems like he operates with
a bit of a chip on his shoulder and everything else,
which is fine because I operate the same way. I'm
(29:54):
not disparaging Aaron Rodgers, but I could definitely see him,
you know, make and some petulant remarks along the way,
and then it's even worse for the Packard front offensive
if it's October November of twenty one and that sort
of stuff is going on. Dave quickly, we got thirty seconds.
What do you see happening in San Francisco with Garoppolo?
(30:14):
Shanahan came out said he'll be the starter. You think
that's the deal or that deal trading? Well, I think
there is a clear line that there's a trend among
high end, superstar future Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Russell Wilson
is trying to get treat Tom Brady left Tampa last year.
Now Rogers wants out. They're always headaches as long as
(30:36):
you're a first ballot Hall of Fame level QB. Jimmy
Ge gets that he ain't that guy, so he better
play ball. He better be the good guy and groom
Trey Lance to take over for him, because Jimmy Ge
wants to play somewhere else in the league and he
ain't at the level of the guys I was just
talking about. He gets that, he knows he has to
be a good soldier in the short term to help
(30:57):
Trey Lance and make that adition work so that he
has a good job in one of the thirty one
other football towns. All right, that's Dave damashek dropping knowledge.
He's the Extra Points podcast network host. You can check
him out on the Extra Points podcast and the Minus
three podcast. Great stuff, Dave, Thanks hey, big fan of
(31:22):
the show, and you guys individually appreciate you having me.
Thank you appreciate it. Alright, Trash Talking Tuesday is next.
You're turning to trash anyone anything in the world of
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(31:42):
and within the iHeart Radio app. Search f SR to
listen live. Alright, it's the I couple, Christ and Rob
on a trash Talking Tuesday coming to you live from
the Fox Sports Radio studios. It's time, folks, trash talk
trash Talking Tuesday. It's a teeth Reggy. I don't know
(32:07):
whether the smile. Let's you kick a field go man?
All right, do it? Eight seventy seven. Yep. Let's start
with John and San Diego. You're on the odd couple
of Fox Sports Radio. John, who you trash a couple
even money dynamic duo from San Diego? What what o? Man?
(32:27):
Thank you? The energy? No man, love you guys, love
the flavor, loved energy. What's up? Whatever you always say?
Philip River, this Philip Blake, Phillip stream is. It's all
pro Hall of Fame quarterback. You put any car sales,
but on the car last fifteen years. They're gonna tell
carn he never won, He wasn't crush, he didn't do nothing.
(32:48):
So what do working kids? I don't care. What did
you do? Did you win? No? Where does it came? Now?
La really go with earth? Goodbye? Nah nice. He was
holding on to that for the Philip Rivers. Yeah, he
was sure it was Let's go to Russell in Baltimore.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Russell.
(33:10):
Who you're trashing Zach Wilson. Guys, Zach Wilson, Wow, I
love you guys. First, I want to tell you guys
to love your show. You guys are fantastic, both of you.
But Zack Wilson is a clown. He liked some posts
that criticize athletes who voiced their protest during at the anthem.
(33:33):
He also liked posts that supported crazy conspiracy theories. He shown,
he's shown he's not very smart. This is not you know,
and here it's the same old Jets man. They didn't
do their homework. This is not gonna go very good
with his teammates. Um Jets to not do their homework.
Zach Wilson is tone death and stupid. Thank you very
(33:56):
much that ron. I didn't know that, but you know
that they've they've they do all the research on your
Twitter and all the stuff that you've done. They couldn't admissed.
But yeah, he's right. If it becomes an issue, you know,
like if it out publicly, um, yeah, people will have
to write you know, once they see that stuff, they'll
(34:17):
be like I gotta find Like, I don't know what
to think about him unless he rives me differently, you
know what I mean? Like it's guarded all right? Max
and Georgia, you're on the eye couple of Fox Sports
Radio who you're trash? And Max, I'm trashing the clutch
busters and their false narrative that Lebron makes teammates better
when we just saw last night, AD played better without
(34:39):
him and the teams played loose without him All year,
Guys like Josh Hart, Brandon Ingram, Julius Randall, Rons the Ball,
Jordan Clarkson are all playing better on their new respective
teams without him. How many real Laker fans would like
to have that starting five going into this year's playoffs?
You tweeted, the weather man predicts a thunderstorm is coming?
The hell with a thunderst Where is Hurricane Broun? I
(35:02):
am an outdoorsman. I don't feel the wind and I
don't hear the rain, looking man, My man, Max the
most predictable caller in America. You're better than that. You're
better than that. Max. Max is you know what Max is?
Like a weatherman in LA The forecast is the same
and I love it. Max every single time, Mace and oh,
(35:26):
here we go. How you're going to the same thing
he's gonna trash Howard co sal has been dead for
twenty five years, all right, Mason san Diego who you trashed?
Andre Rises? In nineteen ninety five, you signed a five year,
seventeen million dollar contract with the Cleveland Browns at the
(35:49):
time made you the highest paid receiver in NFL history.
Despite the big PAYDA, you are a complete bust in
that seat, and you had career loans with forty seven receptions,
seven hundred one yards, three touchdowns, two point nine receptions
per game, and forty three point joy yards per game.
Not to mention your dysfunctional relationship with Lisa Lepti Lobes.
Despite her burning down to mansion, you continued with the
(36:10):
relationship That is a textbook red flag burning your house down.
It's just one level tier psychosis below Lorrain of flowbing
and compounded by the fact you were featured on ESPN
thirty for thirty documentary bro despite being broke, you were
wearing expensive custom Aye Taylor suits during the whole documentary.
Is that as your fundances? Maybe I know you're dying
to get yourself a sugar mama. But I am begging you.
(36:32):
I don't care how broke you are, if you have
any bit of dignity, whatever you do, don't completely ruin
your life by hooking up with a stupid kartashion. Look now,
Andre Rises rodre Van Moon Rises, right. I was in Cleveland,
just starting my career at the press conference at the
(36:53):
play with the playing Dealer when Andre rise and signed
that deal. Is that right? I will say this. I'll
give me's credit. Chris. If if a love interest burned
my house down, I would be I don't think I can.
That's a that's a deal break, deal breaker. Yes, you
burnt my all right. It's one thing you burnt the
(37:15):
toast for breakfast, but you burnt the house down because
you got Yeah, that's a deal breaker. That's a deal breaker.
I want to hear from you. Rob your trash on
the NBA. Yeah, it's just it's just the blowouts. The
NBA stands for another another blowout in the association, Chris.
That's what the NBA stands for, No another reach. It's
(37:42):
a lower case on your or your or your trash start. Yeah,
it's on the video another they haven't they have the
little a capital and another there was a reason I
didn't watch it this. Yeah, there you go. You never
missed my trash truck. I'm a trash sky Brooks. I mean, Scottie,
(38:04):
I get it. He's your man. He helped you in oksee,
he's helped you salvage the season and maybe your job
in Washington. But the second best point guard of all time,
you're better than that, Scott. I mean it makes me wonder,
(38:24):
what don't you what's your criteria? What in the world
is your criteria? I guess he thinks Will Chamberlain's the goat, Rob,
and Will Chamberlain is awesome. But if you're saying Russell
Westbrook and here's the thing, Rob, why not just go
the length? That's what I said, right, Why not just
say he's better than magic? Right? How he knew he
(38:47):
would be. He would be laughed out of the league, Chris.
He probably would. He probably would. I mean, this is
bad enough, but you're right, that would have. He might
have got a call from Adam Silver and be like, look,
you just you've got to go. You've got to go.
I made it through, my man, I made it through
the show. Yeah you sound better too, like your energy increased, Yeah,
(39:12):
because it had me for a minute. Definitely. All right,
well you good job man, and I'm glad you got
the shot. Anybody else we recommend it. We're not doctors,
but hey, that's right. I'm fine. Rob took it, he's fine.
All right, keep it locked for Jason Smith and Mike
Harmon and we'll check you guys out tomorrow. It's the
Eye Couple signing off.
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