May 5, 2021 • 39 mins
Chris and Rob tell us if Aaron Rodgers was wrong to compare the Green Bay Packers general manager to former Chicago Bulls GM Jerry Krause, and discuss if it would be unfair for an NFL team to cut a player if he refuses to get the COVID-19 vaccination (as the Buffalo Bills GM has suggested he might do). Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Eddie House swings by to share his thoughts on James Harden and the Brooklyn Nets, Russell Westbrook's place in history, and much more! Later, the Odd Couple Crew debate the merits of black Superman in this week's edition of Shop Talk.
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At the bottom of the hour, one of our favorite guests,
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hour with shop talk, as we do every Worship Wednesday. Uh. Rob,
we talked with Mike Heller and a good conversation with him.
Interesting that he said the fans up there in Green
Bay are on the side of the packers. Now I
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think it's a little bit well really see and I
think it's a little uh what's the word I'm looking for. Um,
it's muted or it's not as strong as it sounds
when he qualifies it with but they want him back
of course, you know what, like Aaron Rodgers right, that's
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a different like that they would take him back in
open arms if the Packers gave him a new contract.
Chris right that the pushback from fans is natural in
that he doesn't want to be in Green Bay, you
know what I mean, Like that's the that's what makes
you feel don't feel good about It's like, what's wrong
with us? On us? Rock? Come? You don't write? You
don't want us? So at first the first reactors, what
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do you mean he didn't want to be here? You
know what I'm saying. So so I think that's why
fans at first react the way that they do. Right now,
the story came out today, I believe that Aaron Rodgers
was referring to I mean, he clearly has disdame for
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Brian Guda Coots and he must feel like Gouda Coots
basically is the one that drafted Jordan Love. It doesn't
seem like he blames Matt la Floor. They seem to
have a legitimately good relationship and obviously you know they
work well together. Um, I guess everything's okay with Mark Murphy,
but he seems to have it in for Guda Coots
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Rob and he apparently reportedly refers to Gouda Coots as
Jerry Krause uh in texted in texts with teammates. I
mean from the head shots, I guess. I guess from
the chest up pictures, I've seen them, goodicles. He looks
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like he might be in decent shape. I have no
idea and say that is it? Is it? Because you
know was yeah, right, Krause was round and sure they
called him crumbs, right what I mean? And they called
him then they call him crumbs? Come like yeah, but
you know what I'm saying, right right? Like like, but
I don't think that you don't. You don't think that's
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why they're referring to him, Is that right? What you
think it's because he's breaking up like Jordan didn't like,
I don't. I don't think that's what it is. I
think he's just picking like a general manager who uh
like some people might not have a lot of respect
for despite them running like, oh, you know, I think
it has more to do with that. I don't think
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it's about breaking up the team. Yeah, I think it's
I mean Jordans. It might be this Jordan and those guys,
like you said, they didn't have a ton of respect
for Cross just held he said all the time he
was a baseball scout. That's what he was. That's some
that's some white pleg he talked about that last week.
That's some white privilege right there. Where you can go
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from being a scout on the Chicago White Sox to
the GM of the Chicago Bulls. Well, but that's because
the owner, you know, the owner, Chris and he just said, Okay,
I know people too. Did Jerry Krouse know anything about
basketb I don't know, and he did a good job,
but look he had Michael Jordan, I don't know. I
guess he did do the trade, which was great, he
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got robbing, but they didn't have the respect for him.
So I think that's part of it. And also this
may be an element to Rob Krause wanted credit, right
he that was his whole thing. I built this team.
Everybody gives all the credit to Michael Jordan. They call
all the players I put around him to Jordan ares
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why I need to get my credit? And I look
That's a human emotion, right, I get that, But you
have to be mature enough to understand that if you're
a GM, if you're a president, whatever, that's not what
it's about for you. Whether you may get credit, you
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may not, but your job is to put the team together.
But you know how they look. I'm gonna tell you this,
this is when gms get credit, Chris, When you're theo
Epstein and the Red Sox went through on an eighty
five year drought and you're the GM and they win
the World Series. Then you go to Chicago and they
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had a hundred year drought. Do you do you know
what I'm saying, Like, like, that's when people start to look.
If Jerry Cross would have gone to another organization Chris
and won five or six championship without Michael Jordan, then
people would would give him his credit. But when you
have like the greatest player of all time? Do you
see what I'm saying? Like, No, you're absolutely right. Did
David Griffin get credit in It's just not It doesn't
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work like that. You either have to show that you
can win in more than one place, right, or not
have like the greatest player on the planner on your team.
I'm just one of the two and you have to
be cool with that. Rob G is he here for
the credit? And I'm not even being funny. I mean
we bring him on more than most hosts will bring
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on their producer, right because we we like, we love
Rob G and we cool he's cool and we like.
But if if we didn't bring him on right, his
job is not to be the star. That's what Jerry
Crows has under or and and Gooden coops. I think
I think Aaron Rodgers thinks Rob Gooda Coots wants some credit.
I want to shine. That's what I credit of what
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they haven't wanted anything since three? That ain't that? What
credit is that? Come on? No, I hear I hear
you there. But I think, look, Aaron is obviously awesome.
He's not Michael Jordan. I think with Jerry Kraus, he
winning can numb you. I think with the Patriots, oh
we got six, let's show what we can do without
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Tom Brady, the Bulls, Oh we got six, Let's show
what we can do without Michael Jordan. And that's not
how they should look at it, but that is how
they looked at it. Gudacun's obviously isn't in that class.
And all right, rob, let's move here. Interesting story, rob
g I want you to explain this about the Bills
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general manager and what's going on with the vaccinations and
all of that. Right, So Brandon Bean is their general manager,
and you know that the Buffalo Bills famously a few
weeks ago said that they would require a vaccination to
attend their games, so they're very pro COVID nineteen vaccine
in Buffalo. Well, their general manager was an interview and
they asked, hypothetically, would you cut an unvaccinated player if
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it meant that you could in fact get more practice time,
more in person meetings, which is the incentive the NFL
is offered, right, and he said flat out yes, I would,
because that is an advantage. These meetings were not as
productive as before because you guys saw in the field
house we had three or four meetings going on and
sometimes you're talking over each other. But it was the
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only way to pull it off and be socially distanced.
It would be an advantage then to cut a player
and fall into that umbrella. So I guess the easy question,
guys is do you think that kind of thing is
fair going forward. The only thing I'm gonna say is
the only way I say it's fair is if the
work rules work for everybody. If the work rules aren't
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the same for everybody, then know I'm against it if
you say we need everybody in here. If I'm running
a restaurant, and I'm running, and I have a kitchen,
and I'd say, in order to work at this five
star restaurant to Masonette that used to be in Cincinnet,
I think they closed down great food. If you want
to work at a Masonette, you got to be vaccinated.
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And then people have a right to, you know, say
they don't want to be vaccinated or move on. But
the star chef can say, well, I'm not gonna get vaccinated,
and you allow him to not get vaccinated, and you
get rid of somebody who's the set up guy or
who's setting up the salads or whatever. That's not fair.
It's either across the board for everybody, or it's open
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for everybody. Well that's why I can't work in pro sports.
You're right, he could work in a restaurant. Your barber shop,
although maybe you gotta star barber, but you know, like
those types of business is fine. Look if Josh Allen
and Rogie didn't Josh Allen come out and say he
at least was questionable. He was questioning whether or not
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he was gonna get set out of the Kyle Brandt
podcast that he was unsure at this point, this was
last month, if he would get the vaccine right. So,
you can't make that type of blanket statement when you're
running a football team or a basketball team. Rob, I
don't know if Lebron's got in the shop. There was
a report that Dennis Shrewder, who appears to have co
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because he's out for two weeks, there's a report I
don't know if it's true or not, but that he
said he and Lebron are the only players on the
team that didn't get the shot, and Lebron certainly has
not endorsed getting the shot. I don't know if he's
taking it or not. But obviously I'm not cutting Lebron.
James Quinn Cook Bye, you know, but Lebron, Josh Allen,
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Stefine digs no. So to me, Rob, that's what this
is going to come down to. If there's a guy
that's a role player, a special teams guy, he can
be replaced, he's the fifty first man on the squad
or something like that, and he doesn't take it, he
doesn't get vaccinated. They may just that could be the
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final straw. It's just like if that guy in that
position doesn't go to the voluntary workouts and and somebody
else right behind him does go, they may say, you
know what, this guy wants it, He'll do whatever you want.
A situation where a coach had had cancer or has
some other issues, or there are other players who have
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kids who have issues, you know, where it's like, well,
well we need to figure out what we're gonna do here,
because I can't have a chance of this, you know
what I mean, being transmitted to my family. If there
are people in the locker room. I'm just saying, there's
a lot of issues that come about. What if that
guy's a star running back, or that guy Stefan Diggs
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who has I'm just hypothetical of course, where he has
an issue right and his quarterback saying I'm not getting it,
but I got a grandmother at home, or a mother
at home or somebody else. I think that I think
it's a slippery slope. It's to me. You know, I
hear your point. Yeah, I hear your point about a
star and a scrub, But but what if there's two
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stars and one I'm saying, you know what I mean,
Like what you hear, Chris, Well, I think that I
think this is similar to how it is for every
American for the most part. It's not just about you, right,
you have to take other people into consideration. Like if
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I didn't want to get I'm going to see my
parents this weekend for the first time since August because
I didn't want to be around them at their age
if they got it, No, because now I'm right, you
don't want to put them at risk. Absolutely, So if
I didn't get vaccinated, maybe I would be like, you
know what, I'm still not gonna go see them, or
I'm gonna say I'm gonna get vaccinated so I can
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go see them. So I think it's a stick. You're right,
it's a it's a that's an question you thought out
there today. If you got two stars, am I right?
If you got two stars on separate, separate sides, right,
And and somebody's got a parent or a child or something,
you know, And that was the thing with Haskins right
in Washington. Rod Rivera is a cancer survivor. Chris right
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right right, he's out of the strip club. No mask.
That had a lot to do with It wasn't just
old you're out here acting reckless, right, it was yeah,
you Rivera, Rob Rivera's health and in question. Absolutely yeah,
it's um, you know these aren't. It's not a black
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and white situation. And I think that's why the league
has not Rob come down with a blanket rule that
everybody's got to get vaccinated. But it's a it's you know,
you just got to try to do your homework. I'm
not this. Let me ask you this, Chris. Do you
have two locker rooms? You know? That's not if I
had to, I mean, they're obviously going to steal me
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in contact. But let's face it, you went through a
whole year, a whole season last year where there was
no vaccination and some who still played, So you you
could do that. You know meetings, I mean you're still
gonna meet in some ways, you wouldn't be the meeting
person I'm saying by zoom, but maybe you split the
locker room and vaccinated and non because if you got
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two Stars Robbed. Then you do what you got to do, right,
that might work? Yeah, you would explore that, all right,
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to start the season. They were booing him or whatever. Yep,
he just hit another home run. He hit one yesterday
in the first inning, another one today. Eleven game hitting streak.
The dude had four hits last night. He's turned the corner.
And the manager, you know you always talking about manager.
They put him in the second spot in the batting order.
And since he's been in the second spot, my hold fire.
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I just hope Rob, he doesn't go the way of
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It's been like do dude, do you know he's still
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H eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox you'll turn
the way in. UH, it's an interesting situation. Uh. Do
you think it would be fair if a team cutter
player for not being vaccinated? All right, Robert and Georgia,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
What's going on? Crystal rob Fire doing good man? Yeah,
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I just want to see I definitely think it's very unfair. UM.
I worked at the Division one school. I won't say what.
I'm a sports medicine doctor, and I think that UM.
I think that it's very unfair because we don't know
the side effects of these uh that these uh vaccine
is going to have, especially to ask people that aren't
at risk. I understand the older people, but you're asking
people that just coming to league twenty twenty one years
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old to take this and we don't know the long
terms affect of this, and to have them to be
at risk for this for no apparent reason. I don't
think that's fair at all. Robert, let me ask you this.
I think that's fair what you just said. But what
about the people who have bloved ones and children at
home and older who you might be putting them at
risk even though you're young and healthy. And if you
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get it and pass it on to a teammate, where's
your concern for them? Have two things to say that from.
One is that the vaccine doesn't guarantee that you that
you're not going to get it. So because we have
two a couple of actually kids that took the vaccine
and they still um take their property, it just lessons
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like you not having a vaccine the chances are you
could get it. Where are you adding it? I mean
you're a sports medicine doctor, so obviously you've got a
little more knowledge than we do in this field. So
where are you add on the vaccine? Like did you
you sound like you may not have taken it, so
skeptical about it? No, I know I haven't taken it.
And if there's too the Johnson Johnson and the fires,
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the one but they're told that they sold that Johnson
Johnson just had a recall and then the fires, they
say research it's good. But like I said, they haven't
released a long terms of effect of these things. And
like I said, you don't want to take a real
situation where you give a healthy kid something that's going
to have to have long terms of fix down on
the on the end of the situation, that can that
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can just cause cause the balance of downfall all way
to the end of his life. When what did you make?
What did you make of all the people who died
during this during the during I think it's definitely a tragedy.
I just think they should just give them the option
to a lot of players. Okay, that's fair. Good, that's fair.
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If you said, I know you play, Yeah, doubt that's fair.
That's a good call. Um. All I know, Rob, I
took the Johnson and Johnson shot all of a sudden,
I'm bench pressing. I don't know what happened. My wife
is a doctor. She took it. Now we do have
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another friend who's a doctor who did that didn't take it. Yeah,
So you know, everybody's for nobody, Chris. We can't get
one hundred percent on anything, can we come on? Not?
Not in this day and age. Don't I don't shame
people or either No, I just want I always want
to make sure, like when people are talking about what
could be effects of other people later on Chris, which
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I totally respect, what about the effects on people who
are living? Now, That's that's my other flip side. Let's
not act like it's only about what what's gonna happen
down the road. What's happening now, Isaac in California, you're
on the yard a couple of Fox Sports radio, and
we've lost some friends, Chris, you know what I'm saying.
So things, it's just real. This thing is real, Isaac, Isaac.
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Do we lose? Isaac? I guess we lost? Could you
hear me? Oh? We got Isaac? Yep? Now I care Hello, Hello,
Hello guys, thank you fatiguing my call again. I'll make this.
I'll try to make it as quick as possible. I'm
half black, half Mexican. I have I've taken both shots
of the Maderna vaccine, and so has my wife. My
wife's half black, half Persian UM, and we feel very comfortable.
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We both didn't receive any symptoms. However, Um, I don't
think it's fair for people to act for businesses, UH,
specifically the NFL to require vaccinations because you don't know
every every player's home situation is different. However, this could
be a possible situation for like a fight between the
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nfl PA and the NFL, because what if the owners
require a vaccination? And if I think that would if
the owners went that route, I do think the NBPA
or the National Football League Players Association would fight against it.
It's funny because they don't fight against anything else, so
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that would be interesting. Chris, that's a good call, though,
That's what we can Junion going. No. I'm just saying,
but don't you think Rob, they would I mean, do
you think they wouldn't? I don't know. I'd have to
see from the baseball it really des without the players
assigned agreeing to it anyway, you know what I mean.
In baseball, you go to the players first. You don't
even go to the league because if the players aren't
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having it, guess what, it ain't happening right Mark in Sacramento,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's going
on in gentlemen? What's going on? My god? Real quick?
The previous caller kind of stole most of what I
was gonna say. This comes down to two separate rights,
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the rights of the corporation, the team or whatever, and
the individual rights, and that's negotiated if you have a union.
So I M ready to say that if it comes
down to it. In my corporation, they instituted that we
had to have it, and then it went across and
our union kind of agreed with it. So I had
to get one. Guess what because they agreed to it.
If I don't want to take it, I have to
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now to decide do I want to keep my job
don't want to get that shot? But yeah, that's what
I was saying. There are people of all races who
are skeptical of the shot. But you know, with asking Americans,
it goes back to some of the historic things like
the Skeegee experiment, things like that. So you're as an
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older black man, did you how do you feel about it? Like?
Because you you remember to Skeige even more so than
me and Rob I do, And this is how I
feel about it. I just heard this young gentleman come on,
he said, he's a sports matter and doctor. Well, I
listened to doctor felt you got us duie bowler, HIV
and FARS. I trust him more that your some sports doctor.
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And so if they've tested it, they took it, they
tested it. I trust it. I bury. I can tell
you guys now, I buried my brother. That wasn't the relative.
I buried him in August. Man, I got my second
shot Saturday, and I'm like you, Rob, I got my
second one Saturday. I didn't have any I didn't have
any art effects. But I felt a little tired. So
that's all I about. I feel tired. Compared to do
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your homework would be my advice. Do your homework. Don't
listen to politicians, listen to doctors. I don't listen to
my politics. And Mark on the internet, there's a lot
of misinformation. Man. They make it look so real and
people buy into it. You gotta be very very careful.
Go ask your doctor. Yea, all right, called Mark. We
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e House, what's up? Bro? What up? Let's how y'all doing? Hey, Chris,
you out here dunking on people? Stop it? Hey? All
I know is Brian Finley has his podcast and his
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guests keep talking about my hoop skills, like giving me props.
So I'm just I'm just. You know, I got another
to do with that's respected. When people shout it out
for you, you don't gotta do it right right. Holy
problem is that's doctor Seuss and I think light House.
Let's look look first hour we start of the show.
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I said it with my chest, I said with base
in my voice. I said the Brooklyn Nets cannot win
the championship without James Harden. Am I wrong? No? I
agree with you. I agree, which I think is gonna
take all of them. I think the reason why is
we know how dynamic James is with scoring the basketball,
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but his ability to facilitate to other to others and
make others better, but then also have the ability to
take over a game and be a guy to get
get you upside to head for forty fifty, you know,
or at thirty an every night almost thirty year. He's
a walking thirty ball. But the ability to get everybody
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involved and keep everybody happy, I think that's something that
you will will be missed. I mean you can we
can't gloss over that fact. Kyrie obviously is a guy
that's not willing to be that guy. He's that's just
not his game though, So James, that's James game. So
if he's not there, it's gonna it's gonna be real difficult.
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Just like we thought at the beginning of the season.
Without James going there, we thought they were good. We
thought they were a good team, you know, but who
put them over the hump? It was James Harden that
made everybody start talking like, oh my god. And then
they had these other pieces. He's definitely the catalyst for
that team. To me, let me ask you about Lebron.
The ankle's gonna miss two more games. Are you concerned
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about Lebron and just his recovery and how long this
has taken? You know, he's long in the tooth, eighteen years,
thirty six years old. Father time comes for everybody. Attie,
what's the deal on Lebron. I think I think they're
taking their time, but you gotta be careful when you're
doing that, because the more you start sliding in those
standings and you end up playing in the playing tournament.
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And to me, that's scary. You know, you don't want
to put yourself in that position. Not saying that they
won't be able to get over that hump, but you
just put yourself behind the eight ball that you have
to play actual game. But then on top of that,
you don't have home court advantage in any playoff series.
And I think that's the thing that you know, everybody
played on the road last year pretty much, you know,
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being in the bubble, But with fans starting to come back,
with you being able to be outside the bubble and
be at home, have your home cook meals, sleep in
your bed, be around your family, the home court advantage
really comes back into play. And I think that's the
one thing to me. You know, my brother's a die
hard Laker fan. He talks about them all the time,
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and I say, hey, man, the one thing you don't
want to not is play a Game seven on the road.
You don't want to do that, especially against a really
good basketball team that has a good home court advantage.
So that that that to me is concerning a little bit.
But if Lebron comes back firing and all cylinders, to
me still the best player in the world. The Knicks
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are starting to get some attention, Eddie, and are they
look you know, TIBs, he was an assistant coach on
your championship team Boston. Um talk about the job he's done,
like the difference he's made because they were terrible last year.
Now all of a sudden they're the fourth seen in
the East. And and then tell me about like Julius Randall,
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Jewish Randall's actually, I mean he showed signs in other places,
LA in New Orleans, he looked good. But are you
surprised at how far he's come or not surprised? Now,
I'm not surprised. We see, like you said, we've seen
him playing well in other places. They just were on
bad team. You know, you get, uh the spotlights on
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you when you're winning, and it becomes a little brighter,
and it seems like he's thriving in those moments. Uh,
he's not running away from it. He's I like the
fact that he gives to his son that he has
his family there supporting him all the time. That's something
that to me makes him feel comfortable. And it looks
like he's in the best place he has been in
(28:57):
his basketball life. Playing in New York right now and
with Tips coming in. One thing TIBs is gonna do
is hold you accountable defensively. I think by bringing in
a guy like d Rose, who is a veteran, who's
been an MVP, who's went through some hardships, through injury,
faught itself back, guys can remember this is a you know,
you gotta think also, these a lot of these players
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are young, so they were seeing d Rows at the
height of d roles, so they're gonna listen to what
he has to say. So when you have not only
the coach speaking it, but then you have a player
that's the team looked up to when they were younger,
and he's just at the same time reiterating what the
coach is saying, you you start to get some belief
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and belief. You know that that's the most important thing.
You gotta believe it to achieve it, and they have.
They believe that they belong, they believe they're a good
team and and hell, if you look at how they're playing,
they are a good team, and they are a team
that belongs in the East. Is that a team that's
gonna win a championship? No? Is it a team that's
been one of the best teams that we've seen the
New York Knicks put on the floor in a long time.
(30:00):
Oh yeah it is. Let's let's Scotti stay saying nothing.
You know bad. Scotty Brooks said that uh Russell Washbrook
is the second greatest point guard of all time? Was
that a little hyperbole? A little over the top? Prisoner
of the moment seemed a little bit. I get it,
he's had him, this guy's won this one Brooks games
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and all that, But the second best point guard of
all time? Is that a little over the top? Yeah? Man, there,
whatever he's smoking on, tell him he can keep it,
because I don't want it. I don't want it. No,
I don't want that. I don't want that at all,
because he's out of his mind. I mean, you gotta
say that. So now he's talking about over point guards.
So who was the number one point guard? John Stockton?
(30:44):
He did have magic, Yeah he did. Okay, he's the
best effort he might at that point. So that's what
I'm saying. So now we got magic in Stockton, so
he's better than one of those. What about Jason Kidd
and Steve Nash? You know, so okay, what about Thomas?
I say, Isaiah Thomas. We got a lot of guys
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that we could say. I think that what we can
say about Russell Westbrook is probably he is the most dynamic,
uh point guard that we have seen, most athletic, and
I mean just by putting up the sheer numbers that
he puts up. And you know, everybody talks about they
want to water down the triple double, and I always
come back with this argument, go to the rec center
(31:27):
our average and triple double on a day. Go to
the rec center an average and triple double on a day.
And if you can do it, then okay, that's at
the rec center. But do it with the best of
the best. And some of the numbers he put up there,
you know they're guarding numbers. When you started talking about
his assistant rebounds from that position, um, I think, fantastic player,
(31:47):
a guy that I would pay money to go watch
because he leaves it all on the court. He gives
you everything every single night. He doesn't take it for granted.
I love his enthusiasm, I love his effort that he
comes with every single night. I love to watch Russell
Westbrook play. But don't get me wrong, he is not
top two point guards to ever play this game. He
is a fantastic player, but top two is a little stress.
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Like I said, he could keep whatever it is he's smoking.
We with you on Naty House, and I agree with
you too on what you said because people are starting
to take the triple double for granted. But Russ is
the only one averaging. It's not like you got five
players now average and triple doubles. Now. If Luca and
Yokitch or somebody else starts averaging or triple double for
(32:33):
a few seasons, that's one thing, but you can't. Russ
is the only one doing it, so you gotta give
him his props. Yeah, so when they start doing the
hell had me, Chris, because I know that everybody's out
there trying trying to do it. Believe that. And the
same thing, not that we not Lebron if he did.
Everybody says, oh, Lebron could do it if he wanted to.
(32:54):
I believe that it in his mind. He wanted to,
but he understood it took so much of him to
try to do that, so he took back, you know,
on some of those things. So for me, you have
to just marvel at the fact that this guy goes
out there and actually does it. Like I said, man,
go to the rec center and do it. Go to
the rec center and do it. Come back because it
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was that easy. You just said it. If it wasn't average,
You're absolutely right. That's our man, Eddie House, NBA Champion.
We appreciate it, brother. All right, thank you man. You
gotta take care of you tune piece. Shop talk is next.
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when we discuss something that happened outside of the world
of sports and this week's topic. I don't know if
this is new, but it was new to me because
I just saw it today. Warner Brothers and DC Comics
are gonna be making a new Superman movie. We don't
know when it's gonna come out, but we do know
(34:19):
at least who the writer is gonna be. Well, today
I read in the Hollywood Reporter that the plan is
to make it the very first cinematic incarnation of Superman
featuring a black actor. Superman will be black in the
next film. Here's the question, very easy. Do you have
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a problem with there being a black Superman. We'll start
with you, Rob. No, Santa Claus was black at my house,
So why can't Superman be black? Right? Rosis That's simple.
It's a character. What racist. I'm just saying, I Rob,
she's a millennial that thinks and he's not alone. But
(35:04):
millennials think just talking about race, which is ridiculous, and
we need to talk about race. I don't want to
be color blind. I recognize your race, and I still
respect you and love you as a fellow human being.
Of course, let me say this and then you jump in.
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It kills me about moviemaking. You know why, because somehow
they can make the Ten Commandments, which is said Egypt
and all white. Egypt should have been black, all white
in Egypt. I've been to Egypt and go look at
the skin color. Okay, I'm telling you, but that's acceptable
(35:47):
for clear Patrick to have white skin and be Elizabeth Taylor.
But the notion that you make another character and he's
black and there's something wrong with it, I just I
don't get it. I don't get it. Now, you're right
on the money, Rob, And all of the biblical care
Jesus was not white. His head was woolen close to that, right,
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So you're right, you're absolutely right. And people freak out
if you make Jesus. Oh they had to play with
a black Jesus and they're freaking out, you know. But
it's hard to have the white one, even though we
all know he wasn't white. So that that no, I'm
totally fine with it. And here's the thing too, Rob, Uh,
it is good to be good. I know. Look, we
(36:29):
love the white Superman was cool? I Superman Superman, George. Yes,
So it's not you can have a white one, an
Asian one, a Mexican one for you know, Rob g
and all. See that's right. I'm waiting for the button.
But it'll be good for kids of all races to
(36:52):
see a black Superman because now you're seeing blacks in
authoritative positions, helpful, not national right, all kinds of stuff. Right,
But Rob Geeves got beef. Rob, you don't like it.
I don't like it. Like it. I don't like it.
And the reason being is, think of Aria. It'll be
great for her to see a Mexican wonder woman. No,
that will they all know what. I'll tell her this too,
(37:14):
because the new or the most recent Power Rangers, excuse me,
the most recent Aladdin movie, which takes place in Arabia.
The woman that they chose to be Princess Jasmine was
from London. And I didn't like that either. No, that
makes no sense because we have source material that tells
us Princess Jasmine is Arabia. Okay, that's a real person.
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Ain't no Superman fiction? Superman made him white in the
Kids of Fiction camera. If they're gonna make John F.
Kennedy black, okay, I got a problem with that. Rob.
A Superman fiction right, I would say nothing. There's nothing
in the thing that said that he was black. But
(37:57):
Tom Hanks is one of my favorite actors of all time.
If they made him black panther, I'd have a problem
with it. No. But yeah, but that black is part
of the name. It was he was black. It wasn't
Super white Man. He wasn't that he was the super
white Man black. Okay, Yes, I'm with you. Christ was
(38:19):
Super white Man, didn't we Look, man, I'm saying, is
the guy who created Superman? Whoever the comic? When did
he say he was white? He made remember right? What? No?
But I'm asking you because why not a TV show
or a movie? It is a comic book in the No,
(38:40):
I know what I'm saying, but I understand that. But
my point is, and none of that doesn't say he
was white. They thought an alien? Right, Look, man, all
I'm saying is where you let's bring this from Alex
he's more guys. Okay, Superman, you got a problem? No, No,
I have no problem. You know YCB and Rob It
(39:00):
has nothing to do with race. For me, of course
we got to be more open and talk about CB.
But to me, it's I want the best actor I
don't want affirmative. I want the best actor to play
the role. And if it is a black dude, I'm
all for it. I want a great movie. So why
does he know? Like so Rob g we gotta be
a Morgan Superman. And the other problem too, you know,
Chris is black tights. It ain't gonna work. Oh God,
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At the bottom of the hour, one of our favorite guests,
Eddie House, will join us, and then we'll end this
hour with shop talk, as we do every Worship Wednesday. Uh. Rob,
we talked with Mike Heller and a good conversation with him.
Interesting that he said the fans up there in Green
Bay are on the side of the packers. Now I
(01:14):
think it's a little bit well really see and I
think it's a little uh what's the word I'm looking for. Um,
it's muted or it's not as strong as it sounds
when he qualifies it with but they want him back
of course, you know what, like Aaron Rodgers right, that's
(01:38):
a different like that they would take him back in
open arms if the Packers gave him a new contract.
Chris right that the pushback from fans is natural in
that he doesn't want to be in Green Bay, you
know what I mean, Like that's the that's what makes
you feel don't feel good about It's like, what's wrong
with us? On us? Rock? Come? You don't write? You
don't want us? So at first the first reactors, what
(01:59):
do you mean he didn't want to be here? You
know what I'm saying. So so I think that's why
fans at first react the way that they do. Right now,
the story came out today, I believe that Aaron Rodgers
was referring to I mean, he clearly has disdame for
(02:20):
Brian Guda Coots and he must feel like Gouda Coots
basically is the one that drafted Jordan Love. It doesn't
seem like he blames Matt la Floor. They seem to
have a legitimately good relationship and obviously you know they
work well together. Um, I guess everything's okay with Mark Murphy,
but he seems to have it in for Guda Coots
(02:42):
Rob and he apparently reportedly refers to Gouda Coots as
Jerry Krause uh in texted in texts with teammates. I
mean from the head shots, I guess. I guess from
the chest up pictures, I've seen them, goodicles. He looks
(03:02):
like he might be in decent shape. I have no
idea and say that is it? Is it? Because you
know was yeah, right, Krause was round and sure they
called him crumbs, right what I mean? And they called
him then they call him crumbs? Come like yeah, but
you know what I'm saying, right right? Like like, but
I don't think that you don't. You don't think that's
(03:23):
why they're referring to him, Is that right? What you
think it's because he's breaking up like Jordan didn't like,
I don't. I don't think that's what it is. I
think he's just picking like a general manager who uh
like some people might not have a lot of respect
for despite them running like, oh, you know, I think
it has more to do with that. I don't think
(03:44):
it's about breaking up the team. Yeah, I think it's
I mean Jordans. It might be this Jordan and those guys,
like you said, they didn't have a ton of respect
for Cross just held he said all the time he
was a baseball scout. That's what he was. That's some
that's some white pleg he talked about that last week.
That's some white privilege right there. Where you can go
(04:05):
from being a scout on the Chicago White Sox to
the GM of the Chicago Bulls. Well, but that's because
the owner, you know, the owner, Chris and he just said, Okay,
I know people too. Did Jerry Krouse know anything about
basketb I don't know, and he did a good job,
but look he had Michael Jordan, I don't know. I
guess he did do the trade, which was great, he
(04:28):
got robbing, but they didn't have the respect for him.
So I think that's part of it. And also this
may be an element to Rob Krause wanted credit, right
he that was his whole thing. I built this team.
Everybody gives all the credit to Michael Jordan. They call
all the players I put around him to Jordan ares
(04:50):
why I need to get my credit? And I look
That's a human emotion, right, I get that, But you
have to be mature enough to understand that if you're
a GM, if you're a president, whatever, that's not what
it's about for you. Whether you may get credit, you
(05:11):
may not, but your job is to put the team together.
But you know how they look. I'm gonna tell you this,
this is when gms get credit, Chris, When you're theo
Epstein and the Red Sox went through on an eighty
five year drought and you're the GM and they win
the World Series. Then you go to Chicago and they
(05:32):
had a hundred year drought. Do you do you know
what I'm saying, Like, like, that's when people start to look.
If Jerry Cross would have gone to another organization Chris
and won five or six championship without Michael Jordan, then
people would would give him his credit. But when you
have like the greatest player of all time? Do you
see what I'm saying? Like, No, you're absolutely right. Did
David Griffin get credit in It's just not It doesn't
(05:57):
work like that. You either have to show that you
can win in more than one place, right, or not
have like the greatest player on the planner on your team.
I'm just one of the two and you have to
be cool with that. Rob G is he here for
the credit? And I'm not even being funny. I mean
we bring him on more than most hosts will bring
(06:19):
on their producer, right because we we like, we love
Rob G and we cool he's cool and we like.
But if if we didn't bring him on right, his
job is not to be the star. That's what Jerry
Crows has under or and and Gooden coops. I think
I think Aaron Rodgers thinks Rob Gooda Coots wants some credit.
I want to shine. That's what I credit of what
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they haven't wanted anything since three? That ain't that? What
credit is that? Come on? No, I hear I hear
you there. But I think, look, Aaron is obviously awesome.
He's not Michael Jordan. I think with Jerry Kraus, he
winning can numb you. I think with the Patriots, oh
we got six, let's show what we can do without
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Tom Brady, the Bulls, Oh we got six, Let's show
what we can do without Michael Jordan. And that's not
how they should look at it, but that is how
they looked at it. Gudacun's obviously isn't in that class.
And all right, rob, let's move here. Interesting story, rob
g I want you to explain this about the Bills
(07:24):
general manager and what's going on with the vaccinations and
all of that. Right, So Brandon Bean is their general manager,
and you know that the Buffalo Bills famously a few
weeks ago said that they would require a vaccination to
attend their games, so they're very pro COVID nineteen vaccine
in Buffalo. Well, their general manager was an interview and
they asked, hypothetically, would you cut an unvaccinated player if
(07:51):
it meant that you could in fact get more practice time,
more in person meetings, which is the incentive the NFL
is offered, right, and he said flat out yes, I would,
because that is an advantage. These meetings were not as
productive as before because you guys saw in the field
house we had three or four meetings going on and
sometimes you're talking over each other. But it was the
(08:11):
only way to pull it off and be socially distanced.
It would be an advantage then to cut a player
and fall into that umbrella. So I guess the easy question,
guys is do you think that kind of thing is
fair going forward. The only thing I'm gonna say is
the only way I say it's fair is if the
work rules work for everybody. If the work rules aren't
(08:32):
the same for everybody, then know I'm against it if
you say we need everybody in here. If I'm running
a restaurant, and I'm running, and I have a kitchen,
and I'd say, in order to work at this five
star restaurant to Masonette that used to be in Cincinnet,
I think they closed down great food. If you want
to work at a Masonette, you got to be vaccinated.
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And then people have a right to, you know, say
they don't want to be vaccinated or move on. But
the star chef can say, well, I'm not gonna get vaccinated,
and you allow him to not get vaccinated, and you
get rid of somebody who's the set up guy or
who's setting up the salads or whatever. That's not fair.
It's either across the board for everybody, or it's open
(09:16):
for everybody. Well that's why I can't work in pro sports.
You're right, he could work in a restaurant. Your barber shop,
although maybe you gotta star barber, but you know, like
those types of business is fine. Look if Josh Allen
and Rogie didn't Josh Allen come out and say he
at least was questionable. He was questioning whether or not
(09:37):
he was gonna get set out of the Kyle Brandt
podcast that he was unsure at this point, this was
last month, if he would get the vaccine right. So,
you can't make that type of blanket statement when you're
running a football team or a basketball team. Rob, I
don't know if Lebron's got in the shop. There was
a report that Dennis Shrewder, who appears to have co
(10:00):
because he's out for two weeks, there's a report I
don't know if it's true or not, but that he
said he and Lebron are the only players on the
team that didn't get the shot, and Lebron certainly has
not endorsed getting the shot. I don't know if he's
taking it or not. But obviously I'm not cutting Lebron.
James Quinn Cook Bye, you know, but Lebron, Josh Allen,
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Stefine digs no. So to me, Rob, that's what this
is going to come down to. If there's a guy
that's a role player, a special teams guy, he can
be replaced, he's the fifty first man on the squad
or something like that, and he doesn't take it, he
doesn't get vaccinated. They may just that could be the
(10:47):
final straw. It's just like if that guy in that
position doesn't go to the voluntary workouts and and somebody
else right behind him does go, they may say, you
know what, this guy wants it, He'll do whatever you want.
A situation where a coach had had cancer or has
some other issues, or there are other players who have
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kids who have issues, you know, where it's like, well,
well we need to figure out what we're gonna do here,
because I can't have a chance of this, you know
what I mean, being transmitted to my family. If there
are people in the locker room. I'm just saying, there's
a lot of issues that come about. What if that
guy's a star running back, or that guy Stefan Diggs
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who has I'm just hypothetical of course, where he has
an issue right and his quarterback saying I'm not getting it,
but I got a grandmother at home, or a mother
at home or somebody else. I think that I think
it's a slippery slope. It's to me. You know, I
hear your point. Yeah, I hear your point about a
star and a scrub, But but what if there's two
(11:49):
stars and one I'm saying, you know what I mean,
Like what you hear, Chris, Well, I think that I
think this is similar to how it is for every
American for the most part. It's not just about you, right,
you have to take other people into consideration. Like if
(12:10):
I didn't want to get I'm going to see my
parents this weekend for the first time since August because
I didn't want to be around them at their age
if they got it, No, because now I'm right, you
don't want to put them at risk. Absolutely, So if
I didn't get vaccinated, maybe I would be like, you
know what, I'm still not gonna go see them, or
I'm gonna say I'm gonna get vaccinated so I can
(12:32):
go see them. So I think it's a stick. You're right,
it's a it's a that's an question you thought out
there today. If you got two stars, am I right?
If you got two stars on separate, separate sides, right,
And and somebody's got a parent or a child or something,
you know, And that was the thing with Haskins right
in Washington. Rod Rivera is a cancer survivor. Chris right
(12:55):
right right, he's out of the strip club. No mask.
That had a lot to do with It wasn't just
old you're out here acting reckless, right, it was yeah,
you Rivera, Rob Rivera's health and in question. Absolutely yeah,
it's um, you know these aren't. It's not a black
(13:17):
and white situation. And I think that's why the league
has not Rob come down with a blanket rule that
everybody's got to get vaccinated. But it's a it's you know,
you just got to try to do your homework. I'm
not this. Let me ask you this, Chris. Do you
have two locker rooms? You know? That's not if I
had to, I mean, they're obviously going to steal me
(13:39):
in contact. But let's face it, you went through a
whole year, a whole season last year where there was
no vaccination and some who still played, So you you
could do that. You know meetings, I mean you're still
gonna meet in some ways, you wouldn't be the meeting
person I'm saying by zoom, but maybe you split the
locker room and vaccinated and non because if you got
(14:01):
two Stars Robbed. Then you do what you got to do, right,
that might work? Yeah, you would explore that, all right,
all right, we're throwing it out to you guys the
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Nielsen Report. Limitations do apply real quick, Chris, we've been
talking about gen Carlo Stanton. Remember how bad he was
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to start the season. They were booing him or whatever. Yep,
he just hit another home run. He hit one yesterday
in the first inning, another one today. Eleven game hitting streak.
The dude had four hits last night. He's turned the corner.
And the manager, you know you always talking about manager.
They put him in the second spot in the batting order.
And since he's been in the second spot, my hold fire.
(16:11):
I just hope Rob, he doesn't go the way of
a kiel bad what what what? But dude, I think
he has got a hit since you came due him.
It's been like do dude, do you know he's still
got that? That was that VP? Right right? All right?
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H eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox you'll turn
the way in. UH, it's an interesting situation. Uh. Do
you think it would be fair if a team cutter
player for not being vaccinated? All right, Robert and Georgia,
you're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?
What's going on? Crystal rob Fire doing good man? Yeah,
(16:56):
I just want to see I definitely think it's very unfair. UM.
I worked at the Division one school. I won't say what.
I'm a sports medicine doctor, and I think that UM.
I think that it's very unfair because we don't know
the side effects of these uh that these uh vaccine
is going to have, especially to ask people that aren't
at risk. I understand the older people, but you're asking
people that just coming to league twenty twenty one years
(17:18):
old to take this and we don't know the long
terms affect of this, and to have them to be
at risk for this for no apparent reason. I don't
think that's fair at all. Robert, let me ask you this.
I think that's fair what you just said. But what
about the people who have bloved ones and children at
home and older who you might be putting them at
risk even though you're young and healthy. And if you
(17:41):
get it and pass it on to a teammate, where's
your concern for them? Have two things to say that from.
One is that the vaccine doesn't guarantee that you that
you're not going to get it. So because we have
two a couple of actually kids that took the vaccine
and they still um take their property, it just lessons
(18:02):
like you not having a vaccine the chances are you
could get it. Where are you adding it? I mean
you're a sports medicine doctor, so obviously you've got a
little more knowledge than we do in this field. So
where are you add on the vaccine? Like did you
you sound like you may not have taken it, so
skeptical about it? No, I know I haven't taken it.
And if there's too the Johnson Johnson and the fires,
(18:25):
the one but they're told that they sold that Johnson
Johnson just had a recall and then the fires, they
say research it's good. But like I said, they haven't
released a long terms of effect of these things. And
like I said, you don't want to take a real
situation where you give a healthy kid something that's going
to have to have long terms of fix down on
the on the end of the situation, that can that
(18:46):
can just cause cause the balance of downfall all way
to the end of his life. When what did you make?
What did you make of all the people who died
during this during the during I think it's definitely a tragedy.
I just think they should just give them the option
to a lot of players. Okay, that's fair. Good, that's fair.
(19:07):
If you said, I know you play, Yeah, doubt that's fair.
That's a good call. Um. All I know, Rob, I
took the Johnson and Johnson shot all of a sudden,
I'm bench pressing. I don't know what happened. My wife
is a doctor. She took it. Now we do have
(19:27):
another friend who's a doctor who did that didn't take it. Yeah,
So you know, everybody's for nobody, Chris. We can't get
one hundred percent on anything, can we come on? Not?
Not in this day and age. Don't I don't shame
people or either No, I just want I always want
to make sure, like when people are talking about what
could be effects of other people later on Chris, which
(19:50):
I totally respect, what about the effects on people who
are living? Now, That's that's my other flip side. Let's
not act like it's only about what what's gonna happen
down the road. What's happening now, Isaac in California, you're
on the yard a couple of Fox Sports radio, and
we've lost some friends, Chris, you know what I'm saying.
So things, it's just real. This thing is real, Isaac, Isaac.
(20:15):
Do we lose? Isaac? I guess we lost? Could you
hear me? Oh? We got Isaac? Yep? Now I care Hello, Hello,
Hello guys, thank you fatiguing my call again. I'll make this.
I'll try to make it as quick as possible. I'm
half black, half Mexican. I have I've taken both shots
of the Maderna vaccine, and so has my wife. My
wife's half black, half Persian UM, and we feel very comfortable.
(20:38):
We both didn't receive any symptoms. However, Um, I don't
think it's fair for people to act for businesses, UH,
specifically the NFL to require vaccinations because you don't know
every every player's home situation is different. However, this could
be a possible situation for like a fight between the
(21:01):
nfl PA and the NFL, because what if the owners
require a vaccination? And if I think that would if
the owners went that route, I do think the NBPA
or the National Football League Players Association would fight against it.
It's funny because they don't fight against anything else, so
(21:21):
that would be interesting. Chris, that's a good call, though,
That's what we can Junion going. No. I'm just saying,
but don't you think Rob, they would I mean, do
you think they wouldn't? I don't know. I'd have to
see from the baseball it really des without the players
assigned agreeing to it anyway, you know what I mean.
In baseball, you go to the players first. You don't
even go to the league because if the players aren't
(21:43):
having it, guess what, it ain't happening right Mark in Sacramento,
you're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's going
on in gentlemen? What's going on? My god? Real quick?
The previous caller kind of stole most of what I
was gonna say. This comes down to two separate rights,
(22:06):
the rights of the corporation, the team or whatever, and
the individual rights, and that's negotiated if you have a union.
So I M ready to say that if it comes
down to it. In my corporation, they instituted that we
had to have it, and then it went across and
our union kind of agreed with it. So I had
to get one. Guess what because they agreed to it.
If I don't want to take it, I have to
(22:27):
now to decide do I want to keep my job
don't want to get that shot? But yeah, that's what
I was saying. There are people of all races who
are skeptical of the shot. But you know, with asking Americans,
it goes back to some of the historic things like
the Skeegee experiment, things like that. So you're as an
(22:48):
older black man, did you how do you feel about it? Like?
Because you you remember to Skeige even more so than
me and Rob I do, And this is how I
feel about it. I just heard this young gentleman come on,
he said, he's a sports matter and doctor. Well, I
listened to doctor felt you got us duie bowler, HIV
and FARS. I trust him more that your some sports doctor.
(23:08):
And so if they've tested it, they took it, they
tested it. I trust it. I bury. I can tell
you guys now, I buried my brother. That wasn't the relative.
I buried him in August. Man, I got my second
shot Saturday, and I'm like you, Rob, I got my
second one Saturday. I didn't have any I didn't have
any art effects. But I felt a little tired. So
that's all I about. I feel tired. Compared to do
(23:29):
your homework would be my advice. Do your homework. Don't
listen to politicians, listen to doctors. I don't listen to
my politics. And Mark on the internet, there's a lot
of misinformation. Man. They make it look so real and
people buy into it. You gotta be very very careful.
Go ask your doctor. Yea, all right, called Mark. We
(23:51):
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the NBA. He'll join us in a few moments. But first,
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(24:14):
He's an NBA champion, a sharp shooter from behind the arc.
Fox Sports Radio NBA analyst R Man, mister Eddie House
e House, what's up? Bro? What up? Let's how y'all doing? Hey, Chris,
you out here dunking on people? Stop it? Hey? All
I know is Brian Finley has his podcast and his
(24:35):
guests keep talking about my hoop skills, like giving me props.
So I'm just I'm just. You know, I got another
to do with that's respected. When people shout it out
for you, you don't gotta do it right right. Holy
problem is that's doctor Seuss and I think light House.
Let's look look first hour we start of the show.
(24:58):
I said it with my chest, I said with base
in my voice. I said the Brooklyn Nets cannot win
the championship without James Harden. Am I wrong? No? I
agree with you. I agree, which I think is gonna
take all of them. I think the reason why is
we know how dynamic James is with scoring the basketball,
(25:20):
but his ability to facilitate to other to others and
make others better, but then also have the ability to
take over a game and be a guy to get
get you upside to head for forty fifty, you know,
or at thirty an every night almost thirty year. He's
a walking thirty ball. But the ability to get everybody
(25:40):
involved and keep everybody happy, I think that's something that
you will will be missed. I mean you can we
can't gloss over that fact. Kyrie obviously is a guy
that's not willing to be that guy. He's that's just
not his game though, So James, that's James game. So
if he's not there, it's gonna it's gonna be real difficult.
(26:02):
Just like we thought at the beginning of the season.
Without James going there, we thought they were good. We
thought they were a good team, you know, but who
put them over the hump? It was James Harden that
made everybody start talking like, oh my god. And then
they had these other pieces. He's definitely the catalyst for
that team. To me, let me ask you about Lebron.
The ankle's gonna miss two more games. Are you concerned
(26:23):
about Lebron and just his recovery and how long this
has taken? You know, he's long in the tooth, eighteen years,
thirty six years old. Father time comes for everybody. Attie,
what's the deal on Lebron. I think I think they're
taking their time, but you gotta be careful when you're
doing that, because the more you start sliding in those
standings and you end up playing in the playing tournament.
(26:47):
And to me, that's scary. You know, you don't want
to put yourself in that position. Not saying that they
won't be able to get over that hump, but you
just put yourself behind the eight ball that you have
to play actual game. But then on top of that,
you don't have home court advantage in any playoff series.
And I think that's the thing that you know, everybody
played on the road last year pretty much, you know,
(27:09):
being in the bubble, But with fans starting to come back,
with you being able to be outside the bubble and
be at home, have your home cook meals, sleep in
your bed, be around your family, the home court advantage
really comes back into play. And I think that's the
one thing to me. You know, my brother's a die
hard Laker fan. He talks about them all the time,
(27:29):
and I say, hey, man, the one thing you don't
want to not is play a Game seven on the road.
You don't want to do that, especially against a really
good basketball team that has a good home court advantage.
So that that that to me is concerning a little bit.
But if Lebron comes back firing and all cylinders, to
me still the best player in the world. The Knicks
(27:50):
are starting to get some attention, Eddie, and are they
look you know, TIBs, he was an assistant coach on
your championship team Boston. Um talk about the job he's done,
like the difference he's made because they were terrible last year.
Now all of a sudden they're the fourth seen in
the East. And and then tell me about like Julius Randall,
(28:12):
Jewish Randall's actually, I mean he showed signs in other places,
LA in New Orleans, he looked good. But are you
surprised at how far he's come or not surprised? Now,
I'm not surprised. We see, like you said, we've seen
him playing well in other places. They just were on
bad team. You know, you get, uh the spotlights on
(28:36):
you when you're winning, and it becomes a little brighter,
and it seems like he's thriving in those moments. Uh,
he's not running away from it. He's I like the
fact that he gives to his son that he has
his family there supporting him all the time. That's something
that to me makes him feel comfortable. And it looks
like he's in the best place he has been in
(28:57):
his basketball life. Playing in New York right now and
with Tips coming in. One thing TIBs is gonna do
is hold you accountable defensively. I think by bringing in
a guy like d Rose, who is a veteran, who's
been an MVP, who's went through some hardships, through injury,
faught itself back, guys can remember this is a you know,
you gotta think also, these a lot of these players
(29:17):
are young, so they were seeing d Rows at the
height of d roles, so they're gonna listen to what
he has to say. So when you have not only
the coach speaking it, but then you have a player
that's the team looked up to when they were younger,
and he's just at the same time reiterating what the
coach is saying, you you start to get some belief
(29:38):
and belief. You know that that's the most important thing.
You gotta believe it to achieve it, and they have.
They believe that they belong, they believe they're a good
team and and hell, if you look at how they're playing,
they are a good team, and they are a team
that belongs in the East. Is that a team that's
gonna win a championship? No? Is it a team that's
been one of the best teams that we've seen the
New York Knicks put on the floor in a long time.
(30:00):
Oh yeah it is. Let's let's Scotti stay saying nothing.
You know bad. Scotty Brooks said that uh Russell Washbrook
is the second greatest point guard of all time? Was
that a little hyperbole? A little over the top? Prisoner
of the moment seemed a little bit. I get it,
he's had him, this guy's won this one Brooks games
(30:22):
and all that, But the second best point guard of
all time? Is that a little over the top? Yeah? Man, there,
whatever he's smoking on, tell him he can keep it,
because I don't want it. I don't want it. No,
I don't want that. I don't want that at all,
because he's out of his mind. I mean, you gotta
say that. So now he's talking about over point guards.
So who was the number one point guard? John Stockton?
(30:44):
He did have magic, Yeah he did. Okay, he's the
best effort he might at that point. So that's what
I'm saying. So now we got magic in Stockton, so
he's better than one of those. What about Jason Kidd
and Steve Nash? You know, so okay, what about Thomas?
I say, Isaiah Thomas. We got a lot of guys
(31:05):
that we could say. I think that what we can
say about Russell Westbrook is probably he is the most dynamic,
uh point guard that we have seen, most athletic, and
I mean just by putting up the sheer numbers that
he puts up. And you know, everybody talks about they
want to water down the triple double, and I always
come back with this argument, go to the rec center
(31:27):
our average and triple double on a day. Go to
the rec center an average and triple double on a day.
And if you can do it, then okay, that's at
the rec center. But do it with the best of
the best. And some of the numbers he put up there,
you know they're guarding numbers. When you started talking about
his assistant rebounds from that position, um, I think, fantastic player,
(31:47):
a guy that I would pay money to go watch
because he leaves it all on the court. He gives
you everything every single night. He doesn't take it for granted.
I love his enthusiasm, I love his effort that he
comes with every single night. I love to watch Russell
Westbrook play. But don't get me wrong, he is not
top two point guards to ever play this game. He
is a fantastic player, but top two is a little stress.
(32:10):
Like I said, he could keep whatever it is he's smoking.
We with you on Naty House, and I agree with
you too on what you said because people are starting
to take the triple double for granted. But Russ is
the only one averaging. It's not like you got five
players now average and triple doubles. Now. If Luca and
Yokitch or somebody else starts averaging or triple double for
(32:33):
a few seasons, that's one thing, but you can't. Russ
is the only one doing it, so you gotta give
him his props. Yeah, so when they start doing the
hell had me, Chris, because I know that everybody's out
there trying trying to do it. Believe that. And the
same thing, not that we not Lebron if he did.
Everybody says, oh, Lebron could do it if he wanted to.
(32:54):
I believe that it in his mind. He wanted to,
but he understood it took so much of him to
try to do that, so he took back, you know,
on some of those things. So for me, you have
to just marvel at the fact that this guy goes
out there and actually does it. Like I said, man,
go to the rec center and do it. Go to
the rec center and do it. Come back because it
(33:15):
was that easy. You just said it. If it wasn't average,
You're absolutely right. That's our man, Eddie House, NBA Champion.
We appreciate it, brother. All right, thank you man. You
gotta take care of you tune piece. Shop talk is next.
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(33:35):
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(33:57):
you want to in the bush shop talk. That's right,
it is shop talk to the Akaba. Fox Sports Trader say,
when we discuss something that happened outside of the world
of sports and this week's topic. I don't know if
this is new, but it was new to me because
I just saw it today. Warner Brothers and DC Comics
are gonna be making a new Superman movie. We don't
know when it's gonna come out, but we do know
(34:19):
at least who the writer is gonna be. Well, today
I read in the Hollywood Reporter that the plan is
to make it the very first cinematic incarnation of Superman
featuring a black actor. Superman will be black in the
next film. Here's the question, very easy. Do you have
(34:41):
a problem with there being a black Superman. We'll start
with you, Rob. No, Santa Claus was black at my house,
So why can't Superman be black? Right? Rosis That's simple.
It's a character. What racist. I'm just saying, I Rob,
she's a millennial that thinks and he's not alone. But
(35:04):
millennials think just talking about race, which is ridiculous, and
we need to talk about race. I don't want to
be color blind. I recognize your race, and I still
respect you and love you as a fellow human being.
Of course, let me say this and then you jump in.
(35:25):
It kills me about moviemaking. You know why, because somehow
they can make the Ten Commandments, which is said Egypt
and all white. Egypt should have been black, all white
in Egypt. I've been to Egypt and go look at
the skin color. Okay, I'm telling you, but that's acceptable
(35:47):
for clear Patrick to have white skin and be Elizabeth Taylor.
But the notion that you make another character and he's
black and there's something wrong with it, I just I
don't get it. I don't get it. Now, you're right
on the money, Rob, And all of the biblical care
Jesus was not white. His head was woolen close to that, right,
(36:08):
So you're right, you're absolutely right. And people freak out
if you make Jesus. Oh they had to play with
a black Jesus and they're freaking out, you know. But
it's hard to have the white one, even though we
all know he wasn't white. So that that no, I'm
totally fine with it. And here's the thing too, Rob, Uh,
it is good to be good. I know. Look, we
(36:29):
love the white Superman was cool? I Superman Superman, George. Yes,
So it's not you can have a white one, an
Asian one, a Mexican one for you know, Rob g
and all. See that's right. I'm waiting for the button.
But it'll be good for kids of all races to
(36:52):
see a black Superman because now you're seeing blacks in
authoritative positions, helpful, not national right, all kinds of stuff. Right,
But Rob Geeves got beef. Rob, you don't like it.
I don't like it. Like it. I don't like it.
And the reason being is, think of Aria. It'll be
great for her to see a Mexican wonder woman. No,
that will they all know what. I'll tell her this too,
(37:14):
because the new or the most recent Power Rangers, excuse me,
the most recent Aladdin movie, which takes place in Arabia.
The woman that they chose to be Princess Jasmine was
from London. And I didn't like that either. No, that
makes no sense because we have source material that tells
us Princess Jasmine is Arabia. Okay, that's a real person.
(37:37):
Ain't no Superman fiction? Superman made him white in the
Kids of Fiction camera. If they're gonna make John F.
Kennedy black, okay, I got a problem with that. Rob.
A Superman fiction right, I would say nothing. There's nothing
in the thing that said that he was black. But
(37:57):
Tom Hanks is one of my favorite actors of all time.
If they made him black panther, I'd have a problem
with it. No. But yeah, but that black is part
of the name. It was he was black. It wasn't
Super white Man. He wasn't that he was the super
white Man black. Okay, Yes, I'm with you. Christ was
(38:19):
Super white Man, didn't we Look, man, I'm saying, is
the guy who created Superman? Whoever the comic? When did
he say he was white? He made remember right? What? No?
But I'm asking you because why not a TV show
or a movie? It is a comic book in the No,
(38:40):
I know what I'm saying, but I understand that. But
my point is, and none of that doesn't say he
was white. They thought an alien? Right, Look, man, all
I'm saying is where you let's bring this from Alex
he's more guys. Okay, Superman, you got a problem? No, No,
I have no problem. You know YCB and Rob It
(39:00):
has nothing to do with race. For me, of course
we got to be more open and talk about CB.
But to me, it's I want the best actor I
don't want affirmative. I want the best actor to play
the role. And if it is a black dude, I'm
all for it. I want a great movie. So why
does he know? Like so Rob g we gotta be
a Morgan Superman. And the other problem too, you know,
Chris is black tights. It ain't gonna work. Oh God,
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