May 9, 2022 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob discuss the 'unwanted hugs' fiasco between a young Dallas Mavericks fan and Chris Paul's family members and tell us whether or not the six-month suspension was appropriate, and explain how the media voters' fascination with analytics helped Nikola Jokic earn his second consecutive NBA MVP award. Plus, 2x welterweight boxing champion ‘Showtime’ Shawn Porter swings by to discuss Canelo Alvarez’ stunning loss over the weekend, who he likes in a hypothetical matchup between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence, how long we’ll have to wait for a potential Canelo-GGG trilogy fight, and much more!
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Russo and Rod Harker. One of the big stories
in the NBA today or in sports altogether, was the
situation at Game four of the Dallas Mavericks Phoenix Suns
playoff game, and Chris Paul tweeted that some of his
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family members had been physically touched let's put it that
way by fans, and so the league and the Dallas Mavericks,
or I should say the Mavericks didn't investigation. Here's this
statement that they said. It says American Airlines Center and
and Dallas Mavericks security and executives have concluded the investigation
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into the incident involved in the Paul family. Two unruly
fans attempted to give unwanted hugs and have conversations with
members of the Paul family on the public concourse of
American Airline Center. AAC security responded immediately once notified by
the family, and the fans were swiftly ejected from the game.
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The fans involved in the incident will not be allowed
to return to the arena until twenty twenty three. So, Rob,
There's been a lot of talk initially before this investigation.
I would like to hear Chris Paul's response, you know,
and here if his family, the ones who involved in
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the incident feel like that was you know, that's exactly
what happened. I imagine it is. But yeah, I gotta
I just Chris, I can't believe even fans in the stands,
drunk whatever it is, you know, physically went after his
mother and wife. I just I find that, Well, that's right.
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That didn't know what I mean saying that that didn't happen. Yeah,
that's what That's what I'm saying, Like, like, I right,
wouldn't you be shocked if that was really the case,
someone's going after somebody's mother in the stands. That would
be hard to buy. Well, that's why when I, you know,
initially heard the story, right, it did seem like wait,
wait what that's like? And put hands on her, and
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I was like, you know that means I mean to me, Yeah,
I wasn't. I didn't necessary, I didn't just totally disregard it,
but I thought, wow, that's really beyond I My thought, rob,
if that was the case, and I thought, that's what
happened initially, is that I thought that those fans should
be ejected for life from band from games at the
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American Airline Center, like period. If you touch a player's family,
particularly the females, Uh, then I think you got to
be gone. There has to be a strict punishment. But
apparently that's not what happened, at least according to this investigation. Yeah,
and now and now that you hear it, and makes
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a little more sense over zealoust trying to do too much,
getting getting touchy, feeling like everybody doesn't want to get touched,
you know what I'm saying. Like some people are like, oh,
come here, mama, Paul, you know what I mean, right,
Like that's what it sounds like, right right, You're like please, like,
I don't know you. I'm not trying to get hugged, right,
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you know what I mean, especially with females, right right,
you just can't you definitely shouldn't be rolling up on
somebody's wife. You can't hold hugging them like that. If
it's a guy and they do, you know, you could
still be you still rob as like as the guy,
let's say Chris, it was Chris Paul's brother or father.
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I don't want to have to get into an altercation
with you right as a fan because even that Rob,
guess who would catch the brunt of the negative uh
publicity the family member. So you you gotta get security
there and look, get this guy off it. But still
at least it's a It's different with a guy. I
can be like, look, sir, leave us. I just know.
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I just think with women you gotta be very careful.
You know that, and especially with touching women. I just
think it's it's just not it's just not your place.
And I've been a situation where sometimes you know, you
meet somebody Chris and I should always stick out my hand,
even to women, and then they'll be like no, they
would be like, I'd rather a hug, and then that
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you know, they've give me like a fan or something. No,
Like somebody did meet somebody or it could be even
somebody's wife who you never really right right, and then
like you know what I mean, and they're like, oh,
my husband talks about you all the time, and and
I'm open to a hog or that's christ me. And
then I'll be like, okay, rep, but I always took
my hand out. I don't assume anything, you know, like
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you should be hugging anybody. So the one thing I'll say,
And again I thought initially when it seemed like it
was darn near an assault or harassment, physical harassment, I
thought they should be banned for life from the arena.
But now I would say the one thing I'll say, right,
I don't think if I'm reading it correctly, until twenty
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twenty three. To me, that's a short band because first
of all, they may only have one basketball game left,
well at least this season, and then of course you
got the start of next season. But I would I
would kind of say it should have been maybe a year,
a calendar year or something like that. I don't know
that twenty twenty three is that big of a hell.
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It's still even though it seems like they didn't mean
anything by it, it just sends a message like, look,
you really gotta leave guys players guys families alone just right.
But the only thing I'm gonna assume is depending on
who the people were and Chris, if they did like
a background, say after guy's a twenty year ticket holder,
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has never had any issues, you know what I mean.
I'm I'm assuming they vetted them. This guy is like
a prominent attorney in town, do you know what I mean?
Where well rob g was it? I mean there were
I don't know of a kid Roger if you know
any details on that. They haven't said officially who it was,
but based on all the video evidence, it looks like
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it was like a seventeen year old boy. And the
thing is, though that was that obviously wasn't on the
concourse right, Like the photos had him near the son's bench,
which is where Chris Paul's family was sitting. So maybe
it was that yeah, but you know what I mean,
or maybe he's from a good family that look if
it's yeah, they're circumstances and the honest also would really
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I would really talk to the Paul family and see
how it affected them. And they're good. I know his dad,
They're a really good family. Um, so I can I
do think they would be sober minded about it, you know,
like if it if it wasn't really that big of
a deal, I don't think they would. Yeah, I don't
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think they would overreact, because you don't want to overreact
and make it bigger than it really was. You know
what I mean. If somebody's done something, you know, then
you should report it and let people know. But if
it was a misunderstanding and maybe awkward, or you just
didn't feel comfortable let people know, please just don't touch us,
you know what I mean with you know what? It
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reminds me of Rob. You remember a few weeks back
when Mike Tyson beat up the guy on the plane, right,
And it seems like when you read that story, the
guy was a drunk, over zealous who was you know,
kept bothering like like hey Mike, you know, like just
wouldn't let it go. I don't know if he meant
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any harm, but he kept badgering Mike, and it's like
you still, you can't do that. He might not have
meant that anything negative, but you know you messed with
it was Mike Tyson, But that's what it sounds like.
It might have just been an over zealous fan. I
think he wanted Tyson's extra bag of peanuts. I think
that's where everything went wrong. Nothing nothing, not even I thought, Alex,
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I'm gonna get anything. I'm hanging out with Sam. Sam.
We we said at the same table. I had to
find my rim shot. All right. We're eating short ribs
which were delicious, chicken and and and and all kinds
of stuff. Why did I why though, Rob? Did you
post more pictures of you than of Kevin figures? That's
not Instagram at least what I saw. I'm not like,
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can I see the wedding party like I can't to
see Rob. I did set the picture. It was all
I didn't see. I was saying, I might now seeing
all your pictures. Yeah, I don't recall see him. I
got some pictures, Chris. I'll post some of me and
Rob on the table. There you go, all right, But anyway, Rob,
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let's just throw this out to the fans. Um, I
guess what? What is too far? And and and we
here's something and we didn't get into it. But Rob,
we talked about it before the show. It doesn't I
don't want to. We don't. We both don't think fans
are going like harder at players. Than they used to,
because we know of some incidents back in the day, right,
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I mean it was, it was worse actually. But what
I what I do think is happening, Rob, is that
more players are speaking up. You know you've heard, You've
heard even the guys on T and T Shock and
Barkley say, oh, we used to get this, we used
to get that through it right. I applaud the players though,
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for he can up. I think this is great because
it did some of this stuff back in the day
and today Rob has gone too far. But but I
would say this too. I agree with you, Chris on
that premise. I do, But a lot of these guys
are babies too. They don't want the fans to boo
and all that. You're not getting in with that. I'm
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not with that. To see a player though, you know
what I mean. I don't think a players come out
like they were booing. They deserved not to be told out.
But I don't want people belly at. I agree. You gotta, yes,
you gotta accept that that's a part of the sports.
And and to be honest, Rob, you don't want it
any other way. No, you don't want fans sitting there
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on their tail their hands, not into the game, not
cheering for or their team or against the opponent. You
would trust me, players, you wouldn't want it any other way. So, yes,
there's a line that has to be established. But as
a player, you you do have to be able to
take booing and you know all that all that stuff.
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or at least broken story by Woes about the NBA's
MVP and for the second straight year it is Nicola
Yoki Uh winning the MVP. The Denver Nuggets do it
all center, and I do mean do it all UM
basically a point center. UH brings the ball. Yeah. Terrific player,
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terrific player. He was my vote last year for MVP. UM.
This year, I had him third on my ballot. I'm
an official voter. I had Yanni's first, UH, Joe l
Embeats second, and Nicola yokis third, and Robe A big
part of why I had him third. They were the
six seat and I get it. The wins and losses
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were close. You know, everybody with a lot of teams
were around fifty wins UM, so it wasn't like their
record was much worse than other teams. UM. Boston won
fifty one games, Milwaukee fifty one. I voted for Nie
fifty one, Philadelphia fifty one, UH in Denver one forty eight.
But they were the six seat in the West, and
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that matters to me. The only time I voted for
a six seed or anything close to that a guy
that low was when Westbrook won the MVP in twenty
seventeen because he averaged a triple double. I felt like
that was an iconic achievement. We never thought it would
be done. All the great all around players we've seen,
Rob Lebron, James, Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, none of them
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ever did it, and none of them thought they could
do it. And so when Westbrook did it, I thought
that was incredible. But I you know, a lot of
people would say the numbers Yokis put up what first?
With two thousand points, one thousand rebounds, five hundred assists.
Rob Gerard those the numbers, first player ever with those numbers,
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had the highest peer player efficiency rating ever hired, and
Wilt Jordan Lebron ever had, and so people gave him
the I'm not surprised. I don't think you are either.
Out We could see that a lot of the writers,
the younger ones particularly, are influenced by analytics, and so
that's who they voted for, even though he was a
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sixth seed. And the other thing too. And this is
where I am if if he wins it right he
wanted the year before Chris, and he had better numbers
this year. I just didn't see it. How in the
world he wasn't gonna win it again, Like you didn't
think he should have won it, right, No, I would
have voted for him bid because of what he had
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to go through and what he had to you know,
manufacture without his second star, and it was a while
before Harding got there. He held the ship together. He
had a great season. He had thirty points, led the
league in scoring, you know what I mean. He had
a lot of things that I really really liked. But um,
I'm not surprised at all. But I would have voted
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for him bed. But Yoki's winning it does not shock
me for one bit. Yeah, I think you know, the
just certification for the numbers, um, and last year they
were the third seed. So even though he had better
numbers this year, uh to me, you know again, they
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were the third seed last year and only the six seed.
This a lot of injuries too, you know what I mean,
Like I'm not well, he definitely had. Yeah, he was
without his two best plays second people and third best
players Jamal Murray and Michael Porter. Jerry. So look, I'm
not up in arms about him winning it. Some people
think some people think it's the end of the world. Chris,
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Oh yeah, yeah, some players doing that. I've just heard
who did I hear? Um from what is this what
is the podcast up in smoke? Oh yeah, Matt Barnes,
Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Stephen Jackson, I saw a
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video of him saying that the top seventy five players
should vote and not the writers. It's always an anti
writer thing whenever people don't get to vote and we're
ruining the game and the odds. Never was that enough
is enough? Video that got guys who never made a
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basket of voting, and you know, the same old, same
old that we always hear, and I just I think
it's misguided. I really do. Rob it is. We've said
it before and we'll say it again. It is absolutely misguided.
And any time, whether it's stacked, whether it's Matt Barnes,
whether it's Vince Carter, whether it's whoever whatever, former player
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or current player. Ye, we can stack up the voting
between media and players and see which one you like better.
And you will be embarrassed to see what the voting
is coming from players, because there there bias. It's a
popularity contest. They don't like people. Chris, Yeah, we saw it.
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We talked about the voll time. Yeah right, Oh, I
ain't voting for him, No, matter what. And that's why
leave it to the writers. Okay, you're not happy with it,
but the writers do a better job. We don't have
a horse in the race, Chris, we don't absolutely and
and and they give you quickly because people might not
know exactly what we're talking about. Rob. But a few
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years ago, when they started letters leting players have a
vote for the All Star Team, the NBA All Star Team,
more than one hundred and twenty didn't vote for Lebron
James and more than that didn't vote for Kevin Durant.
It was like almost one fifty. It was like fifty,
your vote is taken. I mean serious. Lebron James and
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Kevin Durant should have been on every ballot in an
All Star game, Chris, an exhibition. Those are two of
the best players in the league. How in the world
did one hundred and fifty people not vote for Kevin
Durant one hundred and twenty for Lebron And the joke
right talking about old who didn't play the league. They
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shouldn't vote. And Chris, you shut it. The last time
an MVP wonted when the when the what was it? Um?
The losing care won it as a playing for a
team that the playoffs. See, players used to vote Rob,
players used to vote away eighty right, eighty eighty one
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was the first year I believe that the media voted,
and since then only once or twice has a well
now three times with Yokis. Three times has a player
from a team that won fifty games or less won
the award, you know, in the full season. And was
Moses Malone in the very first year eighty one, and
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then Russell Westbrook with the triple double year and Yokis
this year. But when you when players were voting, Rob
Bob McAdoo won it, I believe his team had a
losing record that year. Kareem won it when they didn't
make the playoffs, and so um, it's just it's just
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like again, we'll put it up against any player vote,
media vote. The media are far less biased than the players.
With one of the point I want to make when
they talk about the baseball writers, Chris, the baseball writers
came up with the awards and baseball adopted them. They're
not they're our awards, you know what I mean? Right,
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like Cy Young and all that that was started by
the baseball writers, not by baseball. So when people say, oh,
take the vote, No, those are our awards. They just
chose to recognize them because they rather have because it's
very partial, right right, it looked all these awards just
heighten the game. They really do. Like at the end
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of the day, guys, these are just guys playing a
sport that a lot to people play. But the coverage,
they're obviously better than everybody. They played at a higher level,
of course, But it's the coverage, it's the analysis. It's
shows like this, TV shows talking about it, constantly comparing
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who's better, who's worse, who's the goat, making people make
the all you know, picking all star teams, picking all
league teams, all of that is what makes it so big.
And so players benefit from that, and it makes the
game bigger, It makes their money bigger. Um, and we
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benefit too. You know, I'm not gonna act like we don't.
It creates jobs, you know, and so we're all working
together even though we're not on the same team. We're
just objective people covering it and reporting. But um, there's
no doubt Rode the media is more objective. Let me
say this doesn't mean we're always right. Christian, you know
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that's not what we're saying. We're just saying you've got
a better shot of getting an objective vote with the
writers than the players. That's all I'm saying. No question
about Let me ask you this, Rob, do you think,
because I don't know how they do it for baseball,
I imagine it's the same with basketball, although they do
I think have a character clause right with baseball? Yeah,
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because yeah, basketball, they give you no criteria for MVP.
I'm not a Hall of Fame voters. I don't know
what they do for that, but for m for regular
postseason awards, there's no criteria. And so do you think
I think it's good this way? No, because you have
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so many voters, and you know, different guys have different views,
but I assume they all mean well, they all cover
the game for a living, and they do it thoroughly.
And it also leads to a lot of great conversation
and Rob, you know what I mean, like debates on
who should be the MVP, what should go into That's
that's what sparks the game and gets people interested. Chris,
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you're in a barbershop, or you're at the airport, or
you know, we're talking to some guys in a sports bar,
and that conversation about that is what drives people to
think about the game, to talk about the game, to care.
You want fans to care who's the MVP, right, who's
getting into Hall of Fame? That should matter? Right, It's like, oh,
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I don't whatever, I don't care, right, you know, like right,
there's no doubt all this recording. You and Rab, I'm
gonna say this, and I look, I think sometimes baseball
writers go overboard with their you know, caretakers of the game.
And and I agree with you, even as a baseball ride,
I know. And you remember on the Hall of Fame
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broadcast when I was on MLB Network, I said, we
got it wrong that night, you know what I mean,
I said it right, we got it wrong. Yeah, and
I think some of them go too far. However, Rob,
this record keeping, this is again, this brings the games
and the sports to another level. It really does. It
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makes them larger than life. So ultimately that's good for
the players. But yeah, Rob, I agree with you. I
don't think they need to create a criteria. There were
times when I thought maybe they should, but I like
it now the way it is. I've come to appreciate that.
But I'll say this, Rob, because at the reason Yokis
won is because we all know about the impact analytics
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is having on sports now and a lot of these
younger writers. When you're a beat writer, you tend to
get a vote, okay, And a lot of these younger
writers coming up, Rob are guys that really are into
the analytics, and they are their votes are swayed by analytics,
and analytically, Yoka's numbers were off the charts. Precursor rob
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a predecessor of the analytics was. They had the IBM
Award in the eighties and nineties and the IBM, the
computer company they would have, you know, the league would
name its MVP, and then the IBM would have its
mvpas the numbers right, nothing else, and David Robinson would
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win it more often than not. He won more than anybody.
Do you think David Robinson was really the MVP that
many times? No, you can't just base it on numbers.
There's a lot of other things that you need to consider.
And um, so that's mine. That's what I would say.
I don't want it to get to a point, Rob,
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where it is strictly about numbers. And let me let
me I brought this up. Let me confirm this if
I can quickly. Bob mcado did when the MVP in
nineteen seventy five to seventy four said five Buffalo was
he planning? Uh, I can find that. I'm having a
little trouble with Michael. Yeah, it was with the Buffalo Braves.
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Sorry about this, um, but they I believe they did not.
Let's see seventy four seventy five Buffalo Braves. Uh, okay,
they did. They did have a winning record. They went
out in the first round. They were forty nine and
thirty three. And uh yeah McAdoo was MVP. But um yeah,
so so one year though, Kareem won it without making
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It's showtime, Sean Porter Sean welcome. Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm
surprised to hear the energy like this. Hey, why I
bring it like that, man, like you bout ahead into
the ring, right, That's how I bring I'll tell you what, man,
that that whole uh T Mobile arena was the entire
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arena was devastated after Saturday night. Man, that that arena
got quiet real quick. It's yeah, how I mean, how
shocked were you? Obviously Cannello losing the Dmitri Beavall was
a huge Carnello was a huge favorite, but Beavall was
a champion. Um so what you what were you that
(26:39):
surprised too? You know what, I wasn't surprised. I mean,
I know boxing, I know you know it. Just it
sounds so cliche that styles make fights, but ultimately that's
what this fight ended up being. It wasn't just the
size of the meet you Bevall that beat Cannello Avarez.
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It was also the style of boxing that he was using.
And it was a style that I expected. I just
get expected as stronger and and and more relentless uh
Carnello Avarez than we got on Saturday night, and and
and again large in part because it's the METI vivolve
and the and attributes say he's burned to the ring
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on Saturday night. I think you know, a lot of
people overlooked it because they haven't seen the Meti vivolve
U live in person like they were able to on
Saturday night just happened to be his best night and
a lot of others worst night. Right, So, so did
you think it was a case of taking them for
granted or not being fully prepared. I tell you what,
(27:44):
here's the bottom line. Or Cannello Avarez everyone that he's
everyone that he's beat us as of late. All uh,
he's been able to dominate all those guys, overwhelm those
guys and beat them with power. If you watch him
and this fight against the Meetri b Ball, he fought
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the exact same way that he's been fighting for the
last three to five years. And again when we go back,
when we when I make the statement, styles make fights.
You can't beat Dmitri Bevall the same way you beat
everybody in these last three to five years, the style
that de Metri v Ball. It requires a little bit
more from you. Canello Avrez Guess what now? Cannello knows
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and Canello's gonna go back to the drawing board. Everyone's saying,
go back to sixty eight. He's not gonna do that.
He's gonna stay at one thing five. He's gonna, he's
gonna he's he's gonna he's gonna activate that rematch clause
and he's gonna rematch Demetri revolved. And I assure you
we will see a much better uh Canelo Alvarez and
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the rematch. I want to get to you know, a
few weeks ago, Erro Spence won a big fight, and
obviously everybody wants to see Spence and tear Arence Crawford,
the two undefeated. Well to ways you fought both of them. Uh,
you lost a very close, controversial split decision to Spence Junior.
(29:10):
Um you lost in t ten round t KO to
Terence Crawford. What that fighting looks like it's gonna happen.
Who do you like in that fighting? Why? I mean
you you can tell us that as well as anybody.
I'll tell you what man, y'all, y'all my boys so
and I don't want to. I ain't gonna do no
no bad radio for y'all. I denied every interview that's
(29:33):
come my way about talking about uh Tennis Crawford and
Aero Spence Junior. Uh, there's this this fight is so
fifty fifty that even the boxing world, and even just
fight fans in general, sports fans in general, you get fifty.
Whatever I say right now, fifty percent of people that
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hear this, they're gonna agree with me, that are gonna
hate me. And I'm like, you know what, instead of
allowing giving opening up the door for people to hate me,
I'm just gonna I'm not gonna do any interviews about
this until the fight is even a nounce, But for y'all,
I will, and I'll keep it short. What I what
I what I felt like I experienced what Terence Crawford was.
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His ability to control range, in distance, his ability to
read and react was on the level that I have
not seen in the professional ranks. I've definitely seen that
in the amateur system, had not seen that in the
pro ranks. Uh sence turning pro in OA even when I, UH,
when I when I when I make that statement, of course,
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I'm speaking about Aerospis junior as well, you know what
I mean. So I think from from the standpoint of
being able to game plan and from a standpoint of
being able to execute in the moment, I believe that uh,
Terence Crawford has the upper hand on Aerospence Junior. Now,
I've heard some people say they think Spence is too big.
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I mean, obviously they're gonna be in the same wait
at least for the wig in, but that they think
Spence is naturally too big for Crawford and that that
could be the difference. I was surprised by that, but
I've heard a lot of people say that, Yeah, I'm
not sold on that. That is kind of the uh
that that's the consensus. When when when we talk about
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this fight and everyone feels that Erlspens Junior is too big,
I tell you one thing, though, you go, you take
a look at Aerospence's fight with uh, you then zoegat
the way he just bent down and rounds five until
the end, and he almost exclusively to the body, became
an inside fighter, and he just became so relentless and
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and his offensive attack. And I feel like that is
something that that Terence Crawford may not be prepared for. Uh.
That being said, you know again, you know, experiencing experiencing
both of those gentlemen. I say, Terence Crawford wins, But
then when I take a look at what aerosmith Jnior
brings to the ring. I said, Aerosmiths can win that
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fight too. It's how about Cannello losing? Uh? Does that
eliminate a trance a chance of the trilogy with the
Triple G? Is that not going to happen? You know?
If that's still on the table. It's a fight that
I really didn't want to see, even almost at the
expense of downing the zone on their telecasts, I caught myself.
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But that's the fight that I don't want to see.
I really would love to see a rematch will be involved.
I can guarantee that we'll see a difference Cannello obres
in that fight. And beyond that, I think that there's
better fights for Cannello to have a one sixty eight
and I don't see him going to undred sixty, but
definitely I want sixty eight. There's much better fights out
there for him than a than a trilogy fight with
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Triple G. I don't believe that Triple G has the
fan base that used to have, and so I don't
think that fight was still the way that it did
the first fight. Certainly in that rematch, Sean, I'm sure
you are a boxing historian and one of my favorite
My favorite fighter outside of Bhamed Aligue growing up was
Sugar Ray Leonard. And you hear a lot of people
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talk about Leonard versus Floyd. How do you think that fight?
How do you think that? I'm sure you watch a
lot of film on both of my I assume how
do you think what you would have win? I'll tell
you what you aresume wrong. I'm not a boxing storian.
I watched boxing now and no words to the last
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couple of years, but never was really Football was always
my thing. So whenever I whenever I had a chance to,
I was watching throwback games of Barry Sanders, you know,
I was watching throwback games of Steve, Steve Young and
and Jerry Wright. But I had to find out why
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people thought, uh, Sugar Ray Leonard was so special. And
when I went and I took a look back at
his fights, just he was. He was on another stratosphere,
able to see what his opponents were going to do
before they did him. I like Floyd, but offensively all
the way up until his end, his offense never declined.
He always was just as offense as he was defense.
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And I think that that's why a lot of people
feel like he could beat uh, he could beat Floyd Mayweather.
I do believe that a fight between Floyd and Ray,
both of them in their prime, would be an unbelievable match,
and I think that I think that it will be.
It will be that situation where we would see Floyd
would finally had met his match fighting against h Sugar
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Ray Leonard again another to be fight that I actually
feel more comfortable saying sugar Way will win that fight
than I would say. I feel more comfortable saying one
of these guys Crawford would be Spencer, Spensive would be Crawford.
I feel more comfortable saying Leonard would beat would beat,
would beat Mayweather. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah.
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And those times then you had a number of great
fighters at the same time, It's not do you feel
like there aren't enough um of those guys like like
great were fighting each other, you know what I mean?
They you fight anybody, and you know we don't have that,
We don't have that as much. Yeah, you know, um
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something that kind of matchmaking has always been matchmaking. And
then I think when when Floyd came around and fighters
were able to see that they were able to make
certain fights and get paid a certain amount. Risk to
reward is kind of that that that key phrase used
in boxing. I never concerned myself with risk to reward.
I always felt like I was always going to get
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in the ring with the with the best, and whatever
the money was gonna be, was gonna be what it was.
And and always made sure, or at least my dad
always made sure until I could myself, made sure that
financially we did the right things and we were responsible
with our money. And so once I got to that
point where I was able to kind of see my
teacher myself and and definitely from my financial standpoint, you
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that I was taking care of things, I was like, listen,
it doesn't matter how much the money's work. What matter.
What matters to me, it's what I'm getting in the
ring with. And that's why you always saw me willing
to fight, uh, basically anybody until my last fight against
Tennis Crawford. He was the last guy on my list.
And once that was done, I was like, Hey, there's
nothing enough for me in the ring. I'll go ahead
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and pursue somethings outside of the ring and be great
at everything else. Did I want to be great at
Nah man, we hear you, and um, you are doing
your thing. We love you on the telecast and insight too, absolutely,
and yo, look, if you want to come on and
talk some football, we'll take you there. He take you there.
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I'm not I know. I know. We got Chris on
the show. And both of you guys played basketball, right,
both of you guys with ball? I did Chris played.
I was a baseball player. Oh you're a baseball Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Robert's baseball. But I'm actually watching uh Milwaukee versus in
Boston right now, and uh, I think this is gonna
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be one of the most exciting playoffs we've seen in
this series. Are you just meaning in general the whole league,
the whole league, the whole league. Yeah, now, it's been good,
it's been good. You're right about that. Every every game
is gonna go um five or more, and uh, you
know it's gonna make for a good a good ending.
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I don't think it's no Seker. We all see the
suns at the end. I'm not sure who will see.
Uh are you sure about the sons? I don't know
about the suns. I'm not so sure with you. I
got the sons. But they they're in the battle with Dallas.
They went in. I think they went the next two
against Dallas. I think the I think the Master too young.
The Master is still too young, right, I agree, and
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I think Memphis too too young. All right, show the Times,
Sean Port. We'll get you on again, brother. Check him
out at the porter Way Podcast. Great podcast, you don't
want to miss it. That's our man, two times well
up to weight boxing champion. Showtime, Sean Porter,
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Russo and Rod Harker. One of the big stories
in the NBA today or in sports altogether, was the
situation at Game four of the Dallas Mavericks Phoenix Suns
playoff game, and Chris Paul tweeted that some of his
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family members had been physically touched let's put it that
way by fans, and so the league and the Dallas Mavericks,
or I should say the Mavericks didn't investigation. Here's this
statement that they said. It says American Airlines Center and
and Dallas Mavericks security and executives have concluded the investigation
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into the incident involved in the Paul family. Two unruly
fans attempted to give unwanted hugs and have conversations with
members of the Paul family on the public concourse of
American Airline Center. AAC security responded immediately once notified by
the family, and the fans were swiftly ejected from the game.
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The fans involved in the incident will not be allowed
to return to the arena until twenty twenty three. So, Rob,
There's been a lot of talk initially before this investigation.
I would like to hear Chris Paul's response, you know,
and here if his family, the ones who involved in
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the incident feel like that was you know, that's exactly
what happened. I imagine it is. But yeah, I gotta
I just Chris, I can't believe even fans in the stands,
drunk whatever it is, you know, physically went after his
mother and wife. I just I find that, Well, that's right.
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That didn't know what I mean saying that that didn't happen. Yeah,
that's what That's what I'm saying, Like, like, I right,
wouldn't you be shocked if that was really the case,
someone's going after somebody's mother in the stands. That would
be hard to buy. Well, that's why when I, you know,
initially heard the story, right, it did seem like wait,
wait what that's like? And put hands on her, and
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I was like, you know that means I mean to me, Yeah,
I wasn't. I didn't necessary, I didn't just totally disregard it,
but I thought, wow, that's really beyond I My thought, rob,
if that was the case, and I thought, that's what
happened initially, is that I thought that those fans should
be ejected for life from band from games at the
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American Airline Center, like period. If you touch a player's family,
particularly the females, Uh, then I think you got to
be gone. There has to be a strict punishment. But
apparently that's not what happened, at least according to this investigation. Yeah,
and now and now that you hear it, and makes
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a little more sense over zealoust trying to do too much,
getting getting touchy, feeling like everybody doesn't want to get touched,
you know what I'm saying. Like some people are like, oh,
come here, mama, Paul, you know what I mean, right,
Like that's what it sounds like, right right, You're like please, like,
I don't know you. I'm not trying to get hugged, right,
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you know what I mean, especially with females, right right,
you just can't you definitely shouldn't be rolling up on
somebody's wife. You can't hold hugging them like that. If
it's a guy and they do, you know, you could
still be you still rob as like as the guy,
let's say Chris, it was Chris Paul's brother or father.
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I don't want to have to get into an altercation
with you right as a fan because even that Rob,
guess who would catch the brunt of the negative uh
publicity the family member. So you you gotta get security
there and look, get this guy off it. But still
at least it's a It's different with a guy. I
can be like, look, sir, leave us. I just know.
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I just think with women you gotta be very careful.
You know that, and especially with touching women. I just
think it's it's just not it's just not your place.
And I've been a situation where sometimes you know, you
meet somebody Chris and I should always stick out my hand,
even to women, and then they'll be like no, they
would be like, I'd rather a hug, and then that
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you know, they've give me like a fan or something. No,
Like somebody did meet somebody or it could be even
somebody's wife who you never really right right, and then
like you know what I mean, and they're like, oh,
my husband talks about you all the time, and and
I'm open to a hog or that's christ me. And
then I'll be like, okay, rep, but I always took
my hand out. I don't assume anything, you know, like
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you should be hugging anybody. So the one thing I'll say,
And again I thought initially when it seemed like it
was darn near an assault or harassment, physical harassment, I
thought they should be banned for life from the arena.
But now I would say the one thing I'll say, right,
I don't think if I'm reading it correctly, until twenty
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twenty three. To me, that's a short band because first
of all, they may only have one basketball game left,
well at least this season, and then of course you
got the start of next season. But I would I
would kind of say it should have been maybe a year,
a calendar year or something like that. I don't know
that twenty twenty three is that big of a hell.
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It's still even though it seems like they didn't mean
anything by it, it just sends a message like, look,
you really gotta leave guys players guys families alone just right.
But the only thing I'm gonna assume is depending on
who the people were and Chris, if they did like
a background, say after guy's a twenty year ticket holder,
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has never had any issues, you know what I mean.
I'm I'm assuming they vetted them. This guy is like
a prominent attorney in town, do you know what I mean?
Where well rob g was it? I mean there were
I don't know of a kid Roger if you know
any details on that. They haven't said officially who it was,
but based on all the video evidence, it looks like
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it was like a seventeen year old boy. And the
thing is, though that was that obviously wasn't on the
concourse right, Like the photos had him near the son's bench,
which is where Chris Paul's family was sitting. So maybe
it was that yeah, but you know what I mean,
or maybe he's from a good family that look if
it's yeah, they're circumstances and the honest also would really
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I would really talk to the Paul family and see
how it affected them. And they're good. I know his dad,
They're a really good family. Um, so I can I
do think they would be sober minded about it, you know,
like if it if it wasn't really that big of
a deal, I don't think they would. Yeah, I don't
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think they would overreact, because you don't want to overreact
and make it bigger than it really was. You know
what I mean. If somebody's done something, you know, then
you should report it and let people know. But if
it was a misunderstanding and maybe awkward, or you just
didn't feel comfortable let people know, please just don't touch us,
you know what I mean with you know what? It
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reminds me of Rob. You remember a few weeks back
when Mike Tyson beat up the guy on the plane, right,
And it seems like when you read that story, the
guy was a drunk, over zealous who was you know,
kept bothering like like hey Mike, you know, like just
wouldn't let it go. I don't know if he meant
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any harm, but he kept badgering Mike, and it's like
you still, you can't do that. He might not have
meant that anything negative, but you know you messed with
it was Mike Tyson, But that's what it sounds like.
It might have just been an over zealous fan. I
think he wanted Tyson's extra bag of peanuts. I think
that's where everything went wrong. Nothing nothing, not even I thought, Alex,
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I'm gonna get anything. I'm hanging out with Sam. Sam.
We we said at the same table. I had to
find my rim shot. All right. We're eating short ribs
which were delicious, chicken and and and and all kinds
of stuff. Why did I why though, Rob? Did you
post more pictures of you than of Kevin figures? That's
not Instagram at least what I saw. I'm not like,
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can I see the wedding party like I can't to
see Rob. I did set the picture. It was all
I didn't see. I was saying, I might now seeing
all your pictures. Yeah, I don't recall see him. I
got some pictures, Chris. I'll post some of me and
Rob on the table. There you go, all right, But anyway, Rob,
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let's just throw this out to the fans. Um, I
guess what? What is too far? And and and we
here's something and we didn't get into it. But Rob,
we talked about it before the show. It doesn't I
don't want to. We don't. We both don't think fans
are going like harder at players. Than they used to,
because we know of some incidents back in the day, right,
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I mean it was, it was worse actually. But what
I what I do think is happening, Rob, is that
more players are speaking up. You know you've heard, You've
heard even the guys on T and T Shock and
Barkley say, oh, we used to get this, we used
to get that through it right. I applaud the players though,
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for he can up. I think this is great because
it did some of this stuff back in the day
and today Rob has gone too far. But but I
would say this too. I agree with you, Chris on
that premise. I do, But a lot of these guys
are babies too. They don't want the fans to boo
and all that. You're not getting in with that. I'm
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not with that. To see a player though, you know
what I mean. I don't think a players come out
like they were booing. They deserved not to be told out.
But I don't want people belly at. I agree. You gotta, yes,
you gotta accept that that's a part of the sports.
And and to be honest, Rob, you don't want it
any other way. No, you don't want fans sitting there
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on their tail their hands, not into the game, not
cheering for or their team or against the opponent. You
would trust me, players, you wouldn't want it any other way. So, yes,
there's a line that has to be established. But as
a player, you you do have to be able to
take booing and you know all that all that stuff.
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or at least broken story by Woes about the NBA's
MVP and for the second straight year it is Nicola
Yoki Uh winning the MVP. The Denver Nuggets do it
all center, and I do mean do it all UM
basically a point center. UH brings the ball. Yeah. Terrific player,
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terrific player. He was my vote last year for MVP. UM.
This year, I had him third on my ballot. I'm
an official voter. I had Yanni's first, UH, Joe l
Embeats second, and Nicola yokis third, and Robe A big
part of why I had him third. They were the
six seat and I get it. The wins and losses
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were close. You know, everybody with a lot of teams
were around fifty wins UM, so it wasn't like their
record was much worse than other teams. UM. Boston won
fifty one games, Milwaukee fifty one. I voted for Nie
fifty one, Philadelphia fifty one, UH in Denver one forty eight.
But they were the six seat in the West, and
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that matters to me. The only time I voted for
a six seed or anything close to that a guy
that low was when Westbrook won the MVP in twenty
seventeen because he averaged a triple double. I felt like
that was an iconic achievement. We never thought it would
be done. All the great all around players we've seen,
Rob Lebron, James, Magic Johnson, Jason Kidd, none of them
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ever did it, and none of them thought they could
do it. And so when Westbrook did it, I thought
that was incredible. But I you know, a lot of
people would say the numbers Yokis put up what first?
With two thousand points, one thousand rebounds, five hundred assists.
Rob Gerard those the numbers, first player ever with those numbers,
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had the highest peer player efficiency rating ever hired, and
Wilt Jordan Lebron ever had, and so people gave him
the I'm not surprised. I don't think you are either.
Out We could see that a lot of the writers,
the younger ones particularly, are influenced by analytics, and so
that's who they voted for, even though he was a
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sixth seed. And the other thing too. And this is
where I am if if he wins it right he
wanted the year before Chris, and he had better numbers
this year. I just didn't see it. How in the
world he wasn't gonna win it again, Like you didn't
think he should have won it, right, No, I would
have voted for him bid because of what he had
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to go through and what he had to you know,
manufacture without his second star, and it was a while
before Harding got there. He held the ship together. He
had a great season. He had thirty points, led the
league in scoring, you know what I mean. He had
a lot of things that I really really liked. But um,
I'm not surprised at all. But I would have voted
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for him bed. But Yoki's winning it does not shock
me for one bit. Yeah, I think you know, the
just certification for the numbers, um, and last year they
were the third seed. So even though he had better
numbers this year, uh to me, you know again, they
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were the third seed last year and only the six seed.
This a lot of injuries too, you know what I mean,
Like I'm not well, he definitely had. Yeah, he was
without his two best plays second people and third best
players Jamal Murray and Michael Porter. Jerry. So look, I'm
not up in arms about him winning it. Some people
think some people think it's the end of the world. Chris,
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Oh yeah, yeah, some players doing that. I've just heard
who did I hear? Um from what is this what
is the podcast up in smoke? Oh yeah, Matt Barnes,
Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson. Stephen Jackson, I saw a
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video of him saying that the top seventy five players
should vote and not the writers. It's always an anti
writer thing whenever people don't get to vote and we're
ruining the game and the odds. Never was that enough
is enough? Video that got guys who never made a
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basket of voting, and you know, the same old, same
old that we always hear, and I just I think
it's misguided. I really do. Rob it is. We've said
it before and we'll say it again. It is absolutely misguided.
And any time, whether it's stacked, whether it's Matt Barnes,
whether it's Vince Carter, whether it's whoever whatever, former player
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or current player. Ye, we can stack up the voting
between media and players and see which one you like better.
And you will be embarrassed to see what the voting
is coming from players, because there there bias. It's a
popularity contest. They don't like people. Chris, Yeah, we saw it.
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We talked about the voll time. Yeah right, Oh, I
ain't voting for him, No, matter what. And that's why
leave it to the writers. Okay, you're not happy with it,
but the writers do a better job. We don't have
a horse in the race, Chris, we don't absolutely and
and and they give you quickly because people might not
know exactly what we're talking about. Rob. But a few
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years ago, when they started letters leting players have a
vote for the All Star Team, the NBA All Star Team,
more than one hundred and twenty didn't vote for Lebron
James and more than that didn't vote for Kevin Durant.
It was like almost one fifty. It was like fifty,
your vote is taken. I mean serious. Lebron James and
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Kevin Durant should have been on every ballot in an
All Star game, Chris, an exhibition. Those are two of
the best players in the league. How in the world
did one hundred and fifty people not vote for Kevin
Durant one hundred and twenty for Lebron And the joke
right talking about old who didn't play the league. They
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shouldn't vote. And Chris, you shut it. The last time
an MVP wonted when the when the what was it? Um?
The losing care won it as a playing for a
team that the playoffs. See, players used to vote Rob,
players used to vote away eighty right, eighty eighty one
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was the first year I believe that the media voted,
and since then only once or twice has a well
now three times with Yokis. Three times has a player
from a team that won fifty games or less won
the award, you know, in the full season. And was
Moses Malone in the very first year eighty one, and
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then Russell Westbrook with the triple double year and Yokis
this year. But when you when players were voting, Rob
Bob McAdoo won it, I believe his team had a
losing record that year. Kareem won it when they didn't
make the playoffs, and so um, it's just it's just
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like again, we'll put it up against any player vote,
media vote. The media are far less biased than the players.
With one of the point I want to make when
they talk about the baseball writers, Chris, the baseball writers
came up with the awards and baseball adopted them. They're
not they're our awards, you know what I mean? Right,
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like Cy Young and all that that was started by
the baseball writers, not by baseball. So when people say, oh,
take the vote, No, those are our awards. They just
chose to recognize them because they rather have because it's
very partial, right right, it looked all these awards just
heighten the game. They really do. Like at the end
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of the day, guys, these are just guys playing a
sport that a lot to people play. But the coverage,
they're obviously better than everybody. They played at a higher level,
of course, But it's the coverage, it's the analysis. It's
shows like this, TV shows talking about it, constantly comparing
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who's better, who's worse, who's the goat, making people make
the all you know, picking all star teams, picking all
league teams, all of that is what makes it so big.
And so players benefit from that, and it makes the
game bigger, It makes their money bigger. Um, and we
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benefit too. You know, I'm not gonna act like we don't.
It creates jobs, you know, and so we're all working
together even though we're not on the same team. We're
just objective people covering it and reporting. But um, there's
no doubt Rode the media is more objective. Let me
say this doesn't mean we're always right. Christian, you know
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that's not what we're saying. We're just saying you've got
a better shot of getting an objective vote with the
writers than the players. That's all I'm saying. No question
about Let me ask you this, Rob, do you think,
because I don't know how they do it for baseball,
I imagine it's the same with basketball, although they do
I think have a character clause right with baseball? Yeah,
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because yeah, basketball, they give you no criteria for MVP.
I'm not a Hall of Fame voters. I don't know
what they do for that, but for m for regular
postseason awards, there's no criteria. And so do you think
I think it's good this way? No, because you have
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so many voters, and you know, different guys have different views,
but I assume they all mean well, they all cover
the game for a living, and they do it thoroughly.
And it also leads to a lot of great conversation
and Rob, you know what I mean, like debates on
who should be the MVP, what should go into That's
that's what sparks the game and gets people interested. Chris,
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you're in a barbershop, or you're at the airport, or
you know, we're talking to some guys in a sports bar,
and that conversation about that is what drives people to
think about the game, to talk about the game, to care.
You want fans to care who's the MVP, right, who's
getting into Hall of Fame? That should matter? Right, It's like, oh,
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I don't whatever, I don't care, right, you know, like right,
there's no doubt all this recording. You and Rab, I'm
gonna say this, and I look, I think sometimes baseball
writers go overboard with their you know, caretakers of the game.
And and I agree with you, even as a baseball ride,
I know. And you remember on the Hall of Fame
(22:53):
broadcast when I was on MLB Network, I said, we
got it wrong that night, you know what I mean,
I said it right, we got it wrong. Yeah, and
I think some of them go too far. However, Rob,
this record keeping, this is again, this brings the games
and the sports to another level. It really does. It
(23:15):
makes them larger than life. So ultimately that's good for
the players. But yeah, Rob, I agree with you. I
don't think they need to create a criteria. There were
times when I thought maybe they should, but I like
it now the way it is. I've come to appreciate that.
But I'll say this, Rob, because at the reason Yokis
won is because we all know about the impact analytics
(23:36):
is having on sports now and a lot of these
younger writers. When you're a beat writer, you tend to
get a vote, okay, And a lot of these younger
writers coming up, Rob are guys that really are into
the analytics, and they are their votes are swayed by analytics,
and analytically, Yoka's numbers were off the charts. Precursor rob
(24:01):
a predecessor of the analytics was. They had the IBM
Award in the eighties and nineties and the IBM, the
computer company they would have, you know, the league would
name its MVP, and then the IBM would have its
mvpas the numbers right, nothing else, and David Robinson would
(24:24):
win it more often than not. He won more than anybody.
Do you think David Robinson was really the MVP that
many times? No, you can't just base it on numbers.
There's a lot of other things that you need to consider.
And um, so that's mine. That's what I would say.
I don't want it to get to a point, Rob,
(24:45):
where it is strictly about numbers. And let me let
me I brought this up. Let me confirm this if
I can quickly. Bob mcado did when the MVP in
nineteen seventy five to seventy four said five Buffalo was
he planning? Uh, I can find that. I'm having a
little trouble with Michael. Yeah, it was with the Buffalo Braves.
(25:10):
Sorry about this, um, but they I believe they did not.
Let's see seventy four seventy five Buffalo Braves. Uh, okay,
they did. They did have a winning record. They went
out in the first round. They were forty nine and
thirty three. And uh yeah McAdoo was MVP. But um yeah,
so so one year though, Kareem won it without making
(25:33):
the playoffs when the players were voting. Fox Sports Radio
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(25:55):
It's showtime, Sean Porter Sean welcome. Hey, Hey, Hey, I'm
surprised to hear the energy like this. Hey, why I
bring it like that, man, like you bout ahead into
the ring, right, That's how I bring I'll tell you what, man,
that that whole uh T Mobile arena was the entire
(26:18):
arena was devastated after Saturday night. Man, that that arena
got quiet real quick. It's yeah, how I mean, how
shocked were you? Obviously Cannello losing the Dmitri Beavall was
a huge Carnello was a huge favorite, but Beavall was
a champion. Um so what you what were you that
(26:39):
surprised too? You know what, I wasn't surprised. I mean,
I know boxing, I know you know it. Just it
sounds so cliche that styles make fights, but ultimately that's
what this fight ended up being. It wasn't just the
size of the meet you Bevall that beat Cannello Avarez.
(26:59):
It was also the style of boxing that he was using.
And it was a style that I expected. I just
get expected as stronger and and and more relentless uh
Carnello Avarez than we got on Saturday night, and and
and again large in part because it's the METI vivolve
and the and attributes say he's burned to the ring
(27:20):
on Saturday night. I think you know, a lot of
people overlooked it because they haven't seen the Meti vivolve
U live in person like they were able to on
Saturday night just happened to be his best night and
a lot of others worst night. Right, So, so did
you think it was a case of taking them for
granted or not being fully prepared. I tell you what,
(27:44):
here's the bottom line. Or Cannello Avarez everyone that he's
everyone that he's beat us as of late. All uh,
he's been able to dominate all those guys, overwhelm those
guys and beat them with power. If you watch him
and this fight against the Meetri b Ball, he fought
(28:05):
the exact same way that he's been fighting for the
last three to five years. And again when we go back,
when we when I make the statement, styles make fights.
You can't beat Dmitri Bevall the same way you beat
everybody in these last three to five years, the style
that de Metri v Ball. It requires a little bit
more from you. Canello Avrez Guess what now? Cannello knows
(28:28):
and Canello's gonna go back to the drawing board. Everyone's saying,
go back to sixty eight. He's not gonna do that.
He's gonna stay at one thing five. He's gonna, he's
gonna he's he's gonna he's gonna activate that rematch clause
and he's gonna rematch Demetri revolved. And I assure you
we will see a much better uh Canelo Alvarez and
(28:49):
the rematch. I want to get to you know, a
few weeks ago, Erro Spence won a big fight, and
obviously everybody wants to see Spence and tear Arence Crawford,
the two undefeated. Well to ways you fought both of them. Uh,
you lost a very close, controversial split decision to Spence Junior.
(29:10):
Um you lost in t ten round t KO to
Terence Crawford. What that fighting looks like it's gonna happen.
Who do you like in that fighting? Why? I mean
you you can tell us that as well as anybody.
I'll tell you what man, y'all, y'all my boys so
and I don't want to. I ain't gonna do no
no bad radio for y'all. I denied every interview that's
(29:33):
come my way about talking about uh Tennis Crawford and
Aero Spence Junior. Uh, there's this this fight is so
fifty fifty that even the boxing world, and even just
fight fans in general, sports fans in general, you get fifty.
Whatever I say right now, fifty percent of people that
(29:55):
hear this, they're gonna agree with me, that are gonna
hate me. And I'm like, you know what, instead of
allowing giving opening up the door for people to hate me,
I'm just gonna I'm not gonna do any interviews about
this until the fight is even a nounce, But for y'all,
I will, and I'll keep it short. What I what
I what I felt like I experienced what Terence Crawford was.
(30:17):
His ability to control range, in distance, his ability to
read and react was on the level that I have
not seen in the professional ranks. I've definitely seen that
in the amateur system, had not seen that in the
pro ranks. Uh sence turning pro in OA even when I, UH,
when I when I when I make that statement, of course,
(30:39):
I'm speaking about Aerospis junior as well, you know what
I mean. So I think from from the standpoint of
being able to game plan and from a standpoint of
being able to execute in the moment, I believe that uh,
Terence Crawford has the upper hand on Aerospence Junior. Now,
I've heard some people say they think Spence is too big.
(31:00):
I mean, obviously they're gonna be in the same wait
at least for the wig in, but that they think
Spence is naturally too big for Crawford and that that
could be the difference. I was surprised by that, but
I've heard a lot of people say that, Yeah, I'm
not sold on that. That is kind of the uh
that that's the consensus. When when when we talk about
(31:21):
this fight and everyone feels that Erlspens Junior is too big,
I tell you one thing, though, you go, you take
a look at Aerospence's fight with uh, you then zoegat
the way he just bent down and rounds five until
the end, and he almost exclusively to the body, became
an inside fighter, and he just became so relentless and
(31:42):
and his offensive attack. And I feel like that is
something that that Terence Crawford may not be prepared for. Uh.
That being said, you know again, you know, experiencing experiencing
both of those gentlemen. I say, Terence Crawford wins, But
then when I take a look at what aerosmith Jnior
brings to the ring. I said, Aerosmiths can win that
(32:04):
fight too. It's how about Cannello losing? Uh? Does that
eliminate a trance a chance of the trilogy with the
Triple G? Is that not going to happen? You know?
If that's still on the table. It's a fight that
I really didn't want to see, even almost at the
expense of downing the zone on their telecasts, I caught myself.
(32:29):
But that's the fight that I don't want to see.
I really would love to see a rematch will be involved.
I can guarantee that we'll see a difference Cannello obres
in that fight. And beyond that, I think that there's
better fights for Cannello to have a one sixty eight
and I don't see him going to undred sixty, but
definitely I want sixty eight. There's much better fights out
there for him than a than a trilogy fight with
(32:51):
Triple G. I don't believe that Triple G has the
fan base that used to have, and so I don't
think that fight was still the way that it did
the first fight. Certainly in that rematch, Sean, I'm sure
you are a boxing historian and one of my favorite
My favorite fighter outside of Bhamed Aligue growing up was
Sugar Ray Leonard. And you hear a lot of people
(33:11):
talk about Leonard versus Floyd. How do you think that fight?
How do you think that? I'm sure you watch a
lot of film on both of my I assume how
do you think what you would have win? I'll tell
you what you aresume wrong. I'm not a boxing storian.
I watched boxing now and no words to the last
(33:32):
couple of years, but never was really Football was always
my thing. So whenever I whenever I had a chance to,
I was watching throwback games of Barry Sanders, you know,
I was watching throwback games of Steve, Steve Young and
and Jerry Wright. But I had to find out why
(33:53):
people thought, uh, Sugar Ray Leonard was so special. And
when I went and I took a look back at
his fights, just he was. He was on another stratosphere,
able to see what his opponents were going to do
before they did him. I like Floyd, but offensively all
the way up until his end, his offense never declined.
He always was just as offense as he was defense.
(34:16):
And I think that that's why a lot of people
feel like he could beat uh, he could beat Floyd Mayweather.
I do believe that a fight between Floyd and Ray,
both of them in their prime, would be an unbelievable match,
and I think that I think that it will be.
It will be that situation where we would see Floyd
would finally had met his match fighting against h Sugar
(34:39):
Ray Leonard again another to be fight that I actually
feel more comfortable saying sugar Way will win that fight
than I would say. I feel more comfortable saying one
of these guys Crawford would be Spencer, Spensive would be Crawford.
I feel more comfortable saying Leonard would beat would beat,
would beat Mayweather. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yeah.
(35:00):
And those times then you had a number of great
fighters at the same time, It's not do you feel
like there aren't enough um of those guys like like
great were fighting each other, you know what I mean?
They you fight anybody, and you know we don't have that,
We don't have that as much. Yeah, you know, um
(35:23):
something that kind of matchmaking has always been matchmaking. And
then I think when when Floyd came around and fighters
were able to see that they were able to make
certain fights and get paid a certain amount. Risk to
reward is kind of that that that key phrase used
in boxing. I never concerned myself with risk to reward.
I always felt like I was always going to get
(35:45):
in the ring with the with the best, and whatever
the money was gonna be, was gonna be what it was.
And and always made sure, or at least my dad
always made sure until I could myself, made sure that
financially we did the right things and we were responsible
with our money. And so once I got to that
point where I was able to kind of see my
teacher myself and and definitely from my financial standpoint, you
(36:08):
that I was taking care of things, I was like, listen,
it doesn't matter how much the money's work. What matter.
What matters to me, it's what I'm getting in the
ring with. And that's why you always saw me willing
to fight, uh, basically anybody until my last fight against
Tennis Crawford. He was the last guy on my list.
And once that was done, I was like, Hey, there's
nothing enough for me in the ring. I'll go ahead
(36:29):
and pursue somethings outside of the ring and be great
at everything else. Did I want to be great at
Nah man, we hear you, and um, you are doing
your thing. We love you on the telecast and insight too, absolutely,
and yo, look, if you want to come on and
talk some football, we'll take you there. He take you there.
(36:50):
I'm not I know. I know. We got Chris on
the show. And both of you guys played basketball, right,
both of you guys with ball? I did Chris played.
I was a baseball player. Oh you're a baseball Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Robert's baseball. But I'm actually watching uh Milwaukee versus in
Boston right now, and uh, I think this is gonna
(37:10):
be one of the most exciting playoffs we've seen in
this series. Are you just meaning in general the whole league,
the whole league, the whole league. Yeah, now, it's been good,
it's been good. You're right about that. Every every game
is gonna go um five or more, and uh, you
know it's gonna make for a good a good ending.
(37:31):
I don't think it's no Seker. We all see the
suns at the end. I'm not sure who will see.
Uh are you sure about the sons? I don't know
about the suns. I'm not so sure with you. I
got the sons. But they they're in the battle with Dallas.
They went in. I think they went the next two
against Dallas. I think the I think the Master too young.
The Master is still too young, right, I agree, and
(37:52):
I think Memphis too too young. All right, show the Times,
Sean Port. We'll get you on again, brother. Check him
out at the porter Way Podcast. Great podcast, you don't
want to miss it. That's our man, two times well
up to weight boxing champion. Showtime, Sean Porter,
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