December 17, 2020 • 32 mins
Chris and Rob explain why they have a big problem with folks who think Trevor Lawrence should do everything he can to make sure he doesn't end up with the New York Jets, tell us why they support the new Senate bill that would ensure that college athletes get paid through both profit sharing and NIL, and share their thoughts on The Top 3 Athletes of FSR's 20 in 20.
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Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. There are those
that think the New York Jets might need to beg
and better not be too proud to beg Trevor Lawrence
to don the Green and the White. Obviously, the Jets
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winless this season. They need to stay winless or they
get that top pick. It would be Jets like though,
to win the two of their last three games. Winn't
it and then Jaguar jack Jacksonville gets the top after
they blew that game against the Raiders. I you know,
that was the thank god they blew it row I know,
but I'm saying, but after that, I doubt you know
what I mean, because that that to me, that that's
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a morale killer, right, Yeah, if you if you don't
win that game, you know what game are you winning
right right now. I hear you, I hear you. But anyway,
former Nets or Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, who I thought,
you know, was actually pretty solid. He had four winning
seasons in his seven years with the Jets, only two
losing seasons, and uh, he was okay. But anyway, he's
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now obviously an ESPN analyst and he robbed it was
It was a little interesting what he's said about the
Jets and about Trevor Lawrence really having the leverage over
the Jets, uh and maybe not wanting to play from him.
He says he has truly unusual leverage. He said he
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could easily hold an auction between Adida's under Armor and
Nike just say I'm not playing this year. Whichever one
of you you shoe companies, clothing apparel companies want to
sign me. I'm going to the highest bidder you can
pay me to sit out this year and then you know,
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enter the draft the year from now. This is what
Tannenbaum said. He say, Hey, he could come out and say, hey,
I'm only playing in one of these four cities, or
don't draft me because I'm not going. His leverage is
he will be financially set by his off the field money.
You didn't like this rout, No, I thought it was
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a guy who's bitter at the organization that he's not
there to even put that out there. Because what he
didn't mention is next year could be the Jacksonville Jaguars
or you know, like you you know, it's still gonna
be some bad team or some bad franchise, Chris, because
those are the teams that get the first overall. Pick
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a team that's really bad. So if it's not going
to New York and the Jets, maybe it's Jacksonville, maybe
it's Detroit. Uh, maybe it's you know, some other bad
town where they haven't won in a long time. So
so I just I mean, look, you're not going to
Kansas City, you're not going to Seattle, you're not going
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to Green Bay. So so what is the difference. Oh, yeah,
next year will be great, let's go to let's go
to Jacksonville. Okay, that's where it will go to Jacksonville
next year. That's gonna be cool, Chris. So, so this
whole notion and throwing out, oh yeah, well they could
pay him, you know. Yeah, two companies just got two
hundred million dollars to give to somebody so that they
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could sit on a sideline. That's unprecedented. It's never been done,
even when Eli didn't want to go to San Diego.
But but they flip flopped, you know what I mean,
the quarterback, so that each of them got one. It
wasn't like San Diego was asked out, you know, and
didn't get well any you said, he's a quarterback, right,
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And I'm not saying the obviously get endorsements, but it's
it's some are people flocking to buy the quarterback sneakers?
I just right now you know you can, but still right.
But but because it's just why the same reason why
NBA players have an advantage. They wear those sneakers to work.
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People see them like you can't sell baseball cleats. You
could be the best baseball player, Chris. Everybody doesn't wear cleats.
Everybody doesn't wear football cleats, do you know what I'm saying.
So there's a difference. And and I just you know,
I just those comments really rubbed me. Like I get it,
he got fired from there, probably he hates the ownership
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and whatnot. That that to me sounded very spiteful that
like he concocted this idea, because if he would have said, well,
you know through when the idea that all he's doing
is prolonging Chris going to another A franchise next year,
that's all it is, right, and you don't know what
next year is, right. I'm just saying, if Jacksonville is
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that cool, Detroit has one playoff win since nineteen fifty seven,
is that where you want to go? I'm just I
don't know, No, that that's a great point you. I
mean again, like I said, we were hearing this same
stuff a year ago with the Beatles, Joe Burrow, right,
telling people telling Joe Burrow not to go there Chris
and he went there, played what played fine until he
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got hurt. But but he went you know, I don't
know what. But I'll say this, and I don't know.
We don't know. Lawrence hasn't talked about it, we don't
know what. He's all speculation, all right, But I would say, Rob,
if I'm the Jets, I'm getting out in front of
this thing. I'm not begging Trevor Lawrence totally. You know, yeah,
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I'm not. I'm not Coyle towering to him, but I
am making some moves that make us look like a
better organization. I mean, obviously they need a new head coach.
Adam Gates has just not gotten the job done. Sam
Darnold looks destroyed, you know he's and I don't think
I know you don't feel this way either. I'm not
saying I'm not sure he can't be a franchise quarterback
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somewhere with the people. They like him. They say us
to go elsewhere. And we saw Chris with Jared Goff
when Fisher was the coach right of the Rams. Remember
that he looked like a bust, like he couldn't play.
And in a matter of Champion Right, who was also
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with Adam Gase, he was terrible. They down in Miami.
They didn't want him. This guy's been unbelievable since he
left there. So you gotta be very careful not to
say somebody can't play until you see them, you know,
when the right situational circumstance. What I would do Rob
right at the end of the season, I'm firing Adam Gaze.
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Now I'll do my due diligence and really do a
legit coaching, sir, But just from what I see out
there in the NFL. I'm I'm hiring Eric be into me,
and I know his name is probably gonna be mentioned
with all these openings and Houston with Deshaun Watson, that's
obviously enticing. That makes a lot of sense for them
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to get being to me. But if I'm the Jets
out bid bid Houston, yeah, you would have Deshaun Watson.
But you also here could have Trevor Lawrence. I mean,
come on, so I think you go out, you get
say Eric be into me. Joe Douglas didn't hire Gaze.
I don't believe right jobg checked that out. Gaze, if
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I remember correctly, was hired before Joe Douglas. And so Douglas,
you know, maybe he stays, you know he did. He
was all right. He was in that Philadelphia organization when
they won the Super Bowl, so you know, he may
be okay. But my point is, Rob the New York
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there's no problem with the city of New York as
we know. I mean, there's that's not the issue. If
you go and you have success in New York, there's
no better place to be, no doubt about it. You
know that, we all know it. And I don't think
that's a determent for him. We saw it first. So
Joe Joe Douglas did not hire adham Gate, so I
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could keep Douglas and and get me uh and Eric
be into me or some big time coach, because here's
the thing, be into me. I would think it's going
to would use Trevor Lawrence similarly or try to create,
you know, recreate what they have in Kansas City. Right. Well,
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but but you know Lawrence is athletic. He might even
be faster than than my homes and so you know,
you got the athleticism obviously throws it well. And so
I that would be what I'm trying to do if
I'm the New York Jets. Make yourself look good. Don't
even contact Lawrence. You're not giving him the keys to
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the franchise, right, but just make the right moves that
make you look like okay, okay, okay, they can get
it done, and then you won't have this problem, I
don't think. And then all you gotta do is then
you make a trade for Donald somebody would gladly take
Chris Gladly and get a player or a pick, you
know what I mean. And then and then you utilize
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that to help uh, you know, reshape the team. I
absolutely think it's right there the Jets. It's not that
hard to turn the thing around. It really isn't. And
you need to right coach, right, you need to No league,
Rob is coaching more important than in the NFL. Definitely,
because it's what your scheme is and how you use
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your players. It's it's much more than any other sport. No. Absolutely, absolutely.
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and the iHeart Radio app. Interesting Senate bill that was
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proposed today by Corey Booker, who is a well known
senator here in New Jersey and senator. He was re
ran for president. He was in he was in the
initial you know, a group of people trying to get
the Democratic nomination for president. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised
if one day in the future he gets it. You know,
he's but but you're right, he's he was hot before, right, right,
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not quite as hot. He was the mayor of Newark,
turned that city around, did some good stuff there and
got to be a senator and now it has been
turned around. But yeah, he just but God did some
good stuff. Put it that way. I know. Nowak has
always been bad for a long time, since the sixties, yeah,
since the Riots. Yeah, but he's he has done some
good stuff. But anyway, he and Richard Blumenthal, the Democratic
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senator from Connecticut, they are proposing what they're calling the
College Athlete Bill of Rights Robbed. And this would change
collegiate sports as we know it. It really would. It would.
Here's a few things that are in that proposal. It
would be revenue sharing with the athletes. And I'll explain
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that in a little more detail, but that's one of
revenue sharing with the athletes. Athletes, of course, is you know,
being pushed through elsewhere, would profit off their name, image
and likeness. You would guarantee, how about this one lifetime
scholarships to athletes and good academic standing. That means as
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long as you kept at two point two grade point
average or better, you would be able to go to
you know, you'd be on scholarship academically until you graduated.
So let's say maybe you go to the pros, get
hurt early, doesn't work out, you're only in there too
years whatever the case, right, you go back and finish
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your scholarship. Yeah, you wouldn't have to pay for it.
You finish your degree. So I like that you It
would establish health and safety rules that would be enforced
by healthy fines for violators, and they would set up
a fund to cover some out of pocket medical expenses
for current and former athletes. We talk about the NFL players,
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rob who you know down the line, they have injuries
related to their profession and maybe they don't have proper
healthcare whatever. You know. Obviously there's some college dudes that
maybe don't even make the NFL that have those situations.
You know, there's there's a lot, Chris, you know, the
numbers small, right for people who actually make it all
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the way to the NFL. Absolutely, they still feel that
that paint you know what I'm saying, Like you you
have physical damage from your career as a as a coach,
as a player. I'm sorry. So here's one of the
I just want to explain the kind of the revenue
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sharing because I think that is probably what has most
people intrigued. So any of the sports where you make
more money where the sport itself as a whole brings
in more money than the cost of scholarships, okay, and
those sports are generally football, men's and women's basketball, and baseball. Okay,
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So let's say, just for sake of easy numbers, there
were a million dollars in scholarships that the FBS, and
this would go for FBS and fcs. But let's say
at the FBS level, the highest level, a million dollars
in scholarships were spent throughout the country, and you made
two million dollars on the sport, right right, So that
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million would be split evenly, but among all of the players,
so well, not that million, fifty percent of that million,
so fifty percent would go to the schools and another
fifty percent would go to the act. Right you would
You would make evenly across the country, right, you would
make it. So it's kind of like a non profit
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from the standpoint Chris, that once you covered what the
scholarships are, then whatever's left over, right, right, then they
split it right, right, So you're the school's not making
a gazillion dollars off of it, a ding back what
they put out right for the scholarship, so they get
that back and then and you do get a profit,
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and then you do get a profit from the standpoint
that you but it's a split profit. You're not. It's
not pure profit like it is now right, And and
Rob G step in here because I'm I'm wondering, if
I can read this correctly, would that money be split
evenly among all the players at FBS or would it
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be based on this cool? So if Alabama, say, makes
a million dollars off their team, that fifty percent of
that million at five hundred thousand would be split among
the Alabama players or it's just all in one pot
and it's split among all the players at the FBS level.
I'll do more research on it, but the way I
read it was each individual school. Oh really, okay, so
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Alabama players from say Alabama would make more than players right.
And but one thing that was unclear to me as
well is, as you guys know, football and basketball are
the only sports that make money in college sports. So
I don't know if when they say after the scholarships
this article, they say the sports that currently generate enough
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money to qualify for this revenue sharing, according to Booker's office,
that's Corey Booker's office, are football. Both FBS and FCS
and men's and women's basketball and baseball. Right. Well, well,
here's my question though, is again I have to do
more reagents into it. But I thought only a few
women's basketball exactly. But the question is, because I know
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it says that they'll as soon as they cover scholarships,
that's when they'll start doing the revenue sharing. Now does
that mean scholarships after football has already paid for men's lacross,
women's volleyball and all that stuff, or are those other
sports she's kind of left out into the win. That's
one thing I'm not sure of yet. Yeah, I really
think they were clear on that, and I don't think
they're clear. And here's what the sentence says, and this
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is the ESPN article, but it says half of the
money that is left after the scholarships would be distributed
evenly among all players at the FBS level. And so
I'm wondering, as I asked you, rob Gie, if that
would be all split evenly or would Alabama get more?
Because here's the problem to me, is an Alabama or
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an Ohio State LSU. You know, all these big time
programs that are on television more, they're gonna make more
money than you know, Indiana, uh, Northwestern, Kent State, all Toledo,
all these schools. That to me, that's like an unfair
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recruiting advantage, don't you think, right? I mean, they already
get the best players, but that would make it even more. So. Yeah,
it's just me or you know, no, I see what
you're saying. But there's no other way around it, you know,
like you don't think you could just distribute it evenly
I mean, which sounds kind of a little strange as well.
I mean, and that that could you know, you could
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they getting as much, their players are getting as much
as Alabama because the other thing, Robbies, remember, you get
you still can benefit off your name and likeness. Right,
that's Alabama, that's right, right, that's where you make more,
right right? Yeah. And then but then in that case,
the the seventy third man is getting as much as
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the star quarterback I mean, which that doesn't sound bad
to me, rob If you split it up evenly among
all the FBS players, and then if a kid is
a star and Nike wants to endorse him or something,
you know, him to endorse their product, then he can
make more. That seems fair. That seems more fair than
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the blue blood programs, who already have an advantage, getting
even more of an advantage because they can pay you
more to go there, you know what I mean. No,
it looks like it would be weighted in their favor,
right if they can do it that way. I just
love the idea that they're going to cut the players in.
That's all we're Chris, We're way beyond the point of
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you know, this is not the old days where people
went to go see college. And when I was in college,
you know, I can remember Manute Ball playing at Southern Connecticut.
Did you know, I would tell you that he can't
play because lay at Fairfield Fairfield which is in Connecticut,
and he played there, and he came for a game.
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It was a big deal. He was obviously a big deal.
But back then, Chris, you got into the field and
he played at the field house on campus, and if
you had a student ID, you got him for free.
And local people from Hamton and New Haven could come
in and I don't know what the tickets were, three dollars,
five dollars, you know what I mean, Like, that's really
what it was. That's college amateur sports. So that money
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I could see where there's nothing there to be split.
But the way athletics are now, and obviously my school
was Division two, but I'm saying, when the kind of
money that they pull in with television and tickets and
season tickets, Chris, and concessions and parking and all that
other stuff, players should get a piece of it. No doubt,
it's professional football. Let's just keep it real. And I mean,
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if you questioned it, and we've even heard some of
the Jeff Capel, who played a duke I believed for
Shawsky but now as a coach I think in Pittsburgh,
he said it. Remember last week when Shivsky was saying
they shouldn't be playing during COVID, Capel said, if there
was any doubt as to whether or not they're not amateurs,
this is it. They're playing. What's the difference between a
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college kid at the FBS level or the Division one
basketball level and wanted the Division two level. They make
money for the schools, that's it, you know, because they
can D two in D three right And they asked
them to work during the pandemic, so those are essential workers, employees. Chris,
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I haven't been on the campus at USC in a year,
you know what I mean, in the last two semesters,
since we closed up everything in March, and I'm teaching
this coming semester and again it'll be virtual online. So
but you've asked the football players right right now, it
looks and then you look at the salaries and I'm
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not saying they shouldn't get paid, but you look at
what Nick Saban and Jim Harbaugh and Mike Shovski, John Calipark,
all these coaches are making. It's just not fair. And
then on top of that, they get deals, endorsed deals,
even though even though they don't wear the sneakers. The
kids were the sneakers. They don't even wear the sneakers, right,
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Nobody ever sees them in the Nikes or the Adidas
or right, you can see that, right, we only see
the games and they don't They're wearing shoes and slacks, yep,
and they're not wearing sneakers. And kids aren't gonna buy
a pair of Nikes Nikes because a coach chaos. Let's
just be honest. I mean, the deal is for the
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kids to wear them. They want zion, but they get money.
But right, but the coaches and they expect the kids
to be satisfied with, you know, sneak six pairs of
the sneakers for the year or whatever. Yeah, so I
agree with you. I think it's high time that these
students got cut in it. It's not an easy you know,
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there are a lot of different proposals out there. This
is just one of them. It's the latest. It seems
pretty good, pretty thorough. Obviously they're sharp people. They would
also create a commission Rob on college athletics. That would
be a nine person board that would kind of enforce
all of this stuff. So it would be like, and
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we know the NC DOUBLEA has been terrible, and so
it would take the power out of their hands and
give it to this board. So that sounds like something
that is not bad idea either. So it's interesting. I
like it, whether it is in this exact form or not.
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iHeart Radio app. We've been counting them down on the
top twenty athletes of the last twenty years. In other words,
the top twenty athletes of the century thus far, and
we're down to the top three. But before we get
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to those three, let us recap now our top twenty
and twenty, the twenty top athletes in the past twenty years.
And here's a quick recap of twenty through four twenty.
Sidney Crossby number nineteen, Very Bonds number eighteen, Jimmy Johnson
number seventeen, Mariano Rivera number sixteen, Steph Curry number fifteen,
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Shaquille O'Neil number fourteen, Simon Bios number thirteen, Tim Duncan
number twelve, Christiano Ronaldo number eleven, Paying Many number ten,
Floyd Mayweather number nine, Leo Messi number eight, Roger Federer
number seven, you say Bold number six, Kobe Bryant number five,
Serena Williams number four, Michael Phelps and now number three.
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Tiger Woods. He had done a half Tiger It's back
Tiger Woods. The two thousand nineteen Masters. Chap Woods ranked
second all time in major victories with fifteen and completed
the career Grand Slam three times in his career. His
eighty two PG eight tour wins tied him for the
most all time, and eleven times He's been named the
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PG eight Tours Player of the Year. He's been the
top ranked player in the world for a record total
six hundred eighty three weeks and holds the all time
record for consecutive cuts made at one forty two. In
twenty nineteen, Woods was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom
and has amassed more than one point five billion in
winnings and endorsements. Well, Tiger Woo, Tiger wooer Woo Woo.
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That look, I think remember Tiger did a lot before
the year two thousand. You know, asked when he started
his career obviously in the nineties, and uh, did a
lot before two thousand and uh, but but obviously since
two thousand just took it to a whole other level.
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So um, look, we know the top three who they are.
We don't know the order yet, but you're talking about
Lebron James Tiger Woo and Tiger Woods and Tom Brady
Tiger Woo, you know from the movie Shower. Is there
any chance that there could be some like a magic
colon Josh Gibson will be number two on this list,
Like you know, with things changing in twenty twenty nine, Alex,
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everything's not funny rob okay. But yeah, you what, don't
you You got any problem with that? No? I mean no,
I know, because, like you know, part of that he
didn't do well, right, So so I get if this
was Tiger and the kind of steamrolled all the way through,
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then he might be at the number one at the list.
But I could see why it's not number one. I
think three is failed. Let's move on, Come down down
number two, Lebron James. But Japle Macron has come home.
The Kevaliers are NBA champions, and the impossible dream has
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come true. Cleveland, this is for you. James is a
four time NBA champion who brought titles to three different franchises.
The four time MVP has appeared in ten NBA Finals,
including eight straight appearances from twenty eleven to twenty eighteen,
and has won four Finals MVP Awards after seventeen seasons.
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Lebron currently ranks third in all time scoring, has been
named All NBA First Team for a record thirteen times,
and has been selected to sixteen All Star Games three
times in his career. He was named AP mal Athlete
of the Year, and in twenty twenty earned his third
SI Sportsperson of the Year honor in twenty eighteen. Through
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his foundation, Lebron opened a public elementary school in his
hometown of aacrad, the I Promise School, which James has
said is one of his greatest accomplishments. Well, Rob, I
full disclosure. I had Lebron number one on my list.
And remember you you we all got criteria. This was
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different from like MVP voting and all that stuff, because
they gave us criteria, and one of the criteria was
what they've done off the court or field or whatever
track as well. And so obviously he's done a ton
on the court. But when I added on what he's
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done off the court to me, that's what made it
Lebron over time. Brady for me was Lebron. You know
what he's done off the court. I got a problem
with Tom Brady being number one. I'm gonna be honest.
Why do you think I say that, Well, because you've
got a problem with Tom Brady. No, No one's in
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the restroom, no or no soda. I mean, well, we
know now because we know the top three, we're Tiger,
Brian and Tom Brady. Therefore hit it come down down
number one. Tom Brady. They're all special and you know,
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two years ago came down to the Malcolm making it play,
and this year down twenty five points. I mean, it's
hard to imagine us winning. Tom Brady is a six
times Super Bowl champion, appearing in the game nine times,
both NFL records. Brady won four Super Bowl MVP awards
in those games, and it's been tabbed as the league's
regular season MVP on three separate occasions. He is the
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NFL all time leader in touchdown passes and ranked second
all time in passing yards. Brady is the only NFL
quarterback in history to win more than two hundred regular
season games. In two thousand and seven, Brady was named
the Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year. The same year
he broke NFL single season marks for passing yards and
touchdown pass us. All right, Rob, go ahead, here's my issue, Tom.
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Tom Brady's winning is marred by cheating by their organization,
and I think it's unfair for people to discount. Tom
Brady was suspended for the flat Gate and Bill Belichick
was a fine heavily the largest find in NFL history
for Spygate and for the voters to overlook that when
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they hold it against Barry Bonds, I don't think it's fair.
I don't think that Tom Brady. I think Lebron James
should be first and Brady shouldn't be number one because
of the marks that go on with the Patriots, because Chris,
just as many people love the Patriots, there are a
lot of people around NFL America who don't respect their
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winning because it hasn't always been above board. No, that's fair.
I mean, like I told you, I had Lebron number one,
not just what he's done on the court, but also
what he did off the court, which we were told
was a prior to criteria. Um, I don't hold it
as much against Brady with the cheating, but you're it
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is there, you know, let's not right, it is there.
And when I think, in what should be a very
close race between Lebron and Brady to be number one,
that is enough? Right? What do we always say when
we're choosing between the goats? Your nitpick? Right? And that's
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a knit to pick, you know, And it's out there, Chris,
it's not just and it's not it's not just rumoring
into you and way like he was suspended for four games. Right,
he was suspended, not rumored, he was suspended, and Bill
Belichick was was find the largest finding the history of
the NFL. All I'm saying is that those are real things.
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And if we're gonna hold other guys, right, people for
for um cheating right to be right, why why are
we holding those guys and saying no, you can't be
there because you there's something in your past, there's a
cheating scandal. Well, and I think too because a lot
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of people might say because I recognize Brady as the goat,
and a lot of people might say, well, he was
great even without it. You know, the deflat gate when
when the Coats wasn't it the coats they were playing,
they switched the balls and he just demolished them. He's
been playing with real players. They say that they got
cheated out of that first Super Bowl, that they were
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all right, right, I mean, yeah, sorry, But I'm just saying,
even when I acknowledge, I believe without the filming and spygate,
without the deflated balls, Brady was still great. And that's
been proven certainly without the balls and without spy guy,
I mean, unless they've still been doing it, which would
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be incredible, but it's been proven. He's still great. But
it's a it's it is there. It is a blemish,
and to me, that would be enough of a blemish
to make Lebron the number one guy. Definitely not to
make Brady number one because of that's a that's a
huge blemish. If Lebron had in his path, Chris, that
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he had that he took h gh, don't tell me
everybody would look at him the same way? Am I right?
If that was out there, No, I think it would
be different. I agree with that.
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that think the New York Jets might need to beg
and better not be too proud to beg Trevor Lawrence
to don the Green and the White. Obviously, the Jets
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winless this season. They need to stay winless or they
get that top pick. It would be Jets like though,
to win the two of their last three games. Winn't
it and then Jaguar jack Jacksonville gets the top after
they blew that game against the Raiders. I you know,
that was the thank god they blew it row I know,
but I'm saying, but after that, I doubt you know
what I mean, because that that to me, that that's
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a morale killer, right, Yeah, if you if you don't
win that game, you know what game are you winning
right right now. I hear you, I hear you. But anyway,
former Nets or Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, who I thought,
you know, was actually pretty solid. He had four winning
seasons in his seven years with the Jets, only two
losing seasons, and uh, he was okay. But anyway, he's
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now obviously an ESPN analyst and he robbed it was
It was a little interesting what he's said about the
Jets and about Trevor Lawrence really having the leverage over
the Jets, uh and maybe not wanting to play from him.
He says he has truly unusual leverage. He said he
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could easily hold an auction between Adida's under Armor and
Nike just say I'm not playing this year. Whichever one
of you you shoe companies, clothing apparel companies want to
sign me. I'm going to the highest bidder you can
pay me to sit out this year and then you know,
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enter the draft the year from now. This is what
Tannenbaum said. He say, Hey, he could come out and say, hey,
I'm only playing in one of these four cities, or
don't draft me because I'm not going. His leverage is
he will be financially set by his off the field money.
You didn't like this rout, No, I thought it was
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a guy who's bitter at the organization that he's not
there to even put that out there. Because what he
didn't mention is next year could be the Jacksonville Jaguars
or you know, like you you know, it's still gonna
be some bad team or some bad franchise, Chris, because
those are the teams that get the first overall. Pick
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a team that's really bad. So if it's not going
to New York and the Jets, maybe it's Jacksonville, maybe
it's Detroit. Uh, maybe it's you know, some other bad
town where they haven't won in a long time. So
so I just I mean, look, you're not going to
Kansas City, you're not going to Seattle, you're not going
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to Green Bay. So so what is the difference. Oh, yeah,
next year will be great, let's go to let's go
to Jacksonville. Okay, that's where it will go to Jacksonville
next year. That's gonna be cool, Chris. So, so this
whole notion and throwing out, oh yeah, well they could
pay him, you know. Yeah, two companies just got two
hundred million dollars to give to somebody so that they
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could sit on a sideline. That's unprecedented. It's never been done,
even when Eli didn't want to go to San Diego.
But but they flip flopped, you know what I mean,
the quarterback, so that each of them got one. It
wasn't like San Diego was asked out, you know, and
didn't get well any you said, he's a quarterback, right,
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And I'm not saying the obviously get endorsements, but it's
it's some are people flocking to buy the quarterback sneakers?
I just right now you know you can, but still right.
But but because it's just why the same reason why
NBA players have an advantage. They wear those sneakers to work.
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People see them like you can't sell baseball cleats. You
could be the best baseball player, Chris. Everybody doesn't wear cleats.
Everybody doesn't wear football cleats, do you know what I'm saying.
So there's a difference. And and I just you know,
I just those comments really rubbed me. Like I get it,
he got fired from there, probably he hates the ownership
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and whatnot. That that to me sounded very spiteful that
like he concocted this idea, because if he would have said, well,
you know through when the idea that all he's doing
is prolonging Chris going to another A franchise next year,
that's all it is, right, and you don't know what
next year is, right. I'm just saying, if Jacksonville is
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that cool, Detroit has one playoff win since nineteen fifty seven,
is that where you want to go? I'm just I
don't know, No, that that's a great point you. I
mean again, like I said, we were hearing this same
stuff a year ago with the Beatles, Joe Burrow, right,
telling people telling Joe Burrow not to go there Chris
and he went there, played what played fine until he
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got hurt. But but he went you know, I don't
know what. But I'll say this, and I don't know.
We don't know. Lawrence hasn't talked about it, we don't
know what. He's all speculation, all right, But I would say, Rob,
if I'm the Jets, I'm getting out in front of
this thing. I'm not begging Trevor Lawrence totally. You know, yeah,
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I'm not. I'm not Coyle towering to him, but I
am making some moves that make us look like a
better organization. I mean, obviously they need a new head coach.
Adam Gates has just not gotten the job done. Sam
Darnold looks destroyed, you know he's and I don't think
I know you don't feel this way either. I'm not
saying I'm not sure he can't be a franchise quarterback
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somewhere with the people. They like him. They say us
to go elsewhere. And we saw Chris with Jared Goff
when Fisher was the coach right of the Rams. Remember
that he looked like a bust, like he couldn't play.
And in a matter of Champion Right, who was also
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with Adam Gase, he was terrible. They down in Miami.
They didn't want him. This guy's been unbelievable since he
left there. So you gotta be very careful not to
say somebody can't play until you see them, you know,
when the right situational circumstance. What I would do Rob
right at the end of the season, I'm firing Adam Gaze.
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Now I'll do my due diligence and really do a
legit coaching, sir, But just from what I see out
there in the NFL. I'm I'm hiring Eric be into me,
and I know his name is probably gonna be mentioned
with all these openings and Houston with Deshaun Watson, that's
obviously enticing. That makes a lot of sense for them
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to get being to me. But if I'm the Jets
out bid bid Houston, yeah, you would have Deshaun Watson.
But you also here could have Trevor Lawrence. I mean,
come on, so I think you go out, you get
say Eric be into me. Joe Douglas didn't hire Gaze.
I don't believe right jobg checked that out. Gaze, if
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I remember correctly, was hired before Joe Douglas. And so Douglas,
you know, maybe he stays, you know he did. He
was all right. He was in that Philadelphia organization when
they won the Super Bowl, so you know, he may
be okay. But my point is, Rob the New York
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there's no problem with the city of New York as
we know. I mean, there's that's not the issue. If
you go and you have success in New York, there's
no better place to be, no doubt about it. You
know that, we all know it. And I don't think
that's a determent for him. We saw it first. So
Joe Joe Douglas did not hire adham Gate, so I
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could keep Douglas and and get me uh and Eric
be into me or some big time coach, because here's
the thing, be into me. I would think it's going
to would use Trevor Lawrence similarly or try to create,
you know, recreate what they have in Kansas City. Right. Well,
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but but you know Lawrence is athletic. He might even
be faster than than my homes and so you know,
you got the athleticism obviously throws it well. And so
I that would be what I'm trying to do if
I'm the New York Jets. Make yourself look good. Don't
even contact Lawrence. You're not giving him the keys to
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the franchise, right, but just make the right moves that
make you look like okay, okay, okay, they can get
it done, and then you won't have this problem, I
don't think. And then all you gotta do is then
you make a trade for Donald somebody would gladly take
Chris Gladly and get a player or a pick, you
know what I mean. And then and then you utilize
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that to help uh, you know, reshape the team. I
absolutely think it's right there the Jets. It's not that
hard to turn the thing around. It really isn't. And
you need to right coach, right, you need to No league,
Rob is coaching more important than in the NFL. Definitely,
because it's what your scheme is and how you use
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your players. It's it's much more than any other sport. No. Absolutely, absolutely.
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and the iHeart Radio app. Interesting Senate bill that was
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proposed today by Corey Booker, who is a well known
senator here in New Jersey and senator. He was re
ran for president. He was in he was in the
initial you know, a group of people trying to get
the Democratic nomination for president. Yeah. I wouldn't be surprised
if one day in the future he gets it. You know,
he's but but you're right, he's he was hot before, right, right,
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not quite as hot. He was the mayor of Newark,
turned that city around, did some good stuff there and
got to be a senator and now it has been
turned around. But yeah, he just but God did some
good stuff. Put it that way. I know. Nowak has
always been bad for a long time, since the sixties, yeah,
since the Riots. Yeah, but he's he has done some
good stuff. But anyway, he and Richard Blumenthal, the Democratic
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senator from Connecticut, they are proposing what they're calling the
College Athlete Bill of Rights Robbed. And this would change
collegiate sports as we know it. It really would. It would.
Here's a few things that are in that proposal. It
would be revenue sharing with the athletes. And I'll explain
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that in a little more detail, but that's one of
revenue sharing with the athletes. Athletes, of course, is you know,
being pushed through elsewhere, would profit off their name, image
and likeness. You would guarantee, how about this one lifetime
scholarships to athletes and good academic standing. That means as
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long as you kept at two point two grade point
average or better, you would be able to go to
you know, you'd be on scholarship academically until you graduated.
So let's say maybe you go to the pros, get
hurt early, doesn't work out, you're only in there too
years whatever the case, right, you go back and finish
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your scholarship. Yeah, you wouldn't have to pay for it.
You finish your degree. So I like that you It
would establish health and safety rules that would be enforced
by healthy fines for violators, and they would set up
a fund to cover some out of pocket medical expenses
for current and former athletes. We talk about the NFL players,
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rob who you know down the line, they have injuries
related to their profession and maybe they don't have proper
healthcare whatever. You know. Obviously there's some college dudes that
maybe don't even make the NFL that have those situations.
You know, there's there's a lot, Chris, you know, the
numbers small, right for people who actually make it all
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the way to the NFL. Absolutely, they still feel that
that paint you know what I'm saying, Like you you
have physical damage from your career as a as a coach,
as a player. I'm sorry. So here's one of the
I just want to explain the kind of the revenue
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sharing because I think that is probably what has most
people intrigued. So any of the sports where you make
more money where the sport itself as a whole brings
in more money than the cost of scholarships, okay, and
those sports are generally football, men's and women's basketball, and baseball. Okay,
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So let's say, just for sake of easy numbers, there
were a million dollars in scholarships that the FBS, and
this would go for FBS and fcs. But let's say
at the FBS level, the highest level, a million dollars
in scholarships were spent throughout the country, and you made
two million dollars on the sport, right right, So that
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million would be split evenly, but among all of the players,
so well, not that million, fifty percent of that million,
so fifty percent would go to the schools and another
fifty percent would go to the act. Right you would
You would make evenly across the country, right, you would
make it. So it's kind of like a non profit
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from the standpoint Chris, that once you covered what the
scholarships are, then whatever's left over, right, right, then they
split it right, right, So you're the school's not making
a gazillion dollars off of it, a ding back what
they put out right for the scholarship, so they get
that back and then and you do get a profit,
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and then you do get a profit from the standpoint
that you but it's a split profit. You're not. It's
not pure profit like it is now right, And and
Rob G step in here because I'm I'm wondering, if
I can read this correctly, would that money be split
evenly among all the players at FBS or would it
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be based on this cool? So if Alabama, say, makes
a million dollars off their team, that fifty percent of
that million at five hundred thousand would be split among
the Alabama players or it's just all in one pot
and it's split among all the players at the FBS level.
I'll do more research on it, but the way I
read it was each individual school. Oh really, okay, so
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Alabama players from say Alabama would make more than players right.
And but one thing that was unclear to me as
well is, as you guys know, football and basketball are
the only sports that make money in college sports. So
I don't know if when they say after the scholarships
this article, they say the sports that currently generate enough
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money to qualify for this revenue sharing, according to Booker's office,
that's Corey Booker's office, are football. Both FBS and FCS
and men's and women's basketball and baseball. Right. Well, well,
here's my question though, is again I have to do
more reagents into it. But I thought only a few
women's basketball exactly. But the question is, because I know
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it says that they'll as soon as they cover scholarships,
that's when they'll start doing the revenue sharing. Now does
that mean scholarships after football has already paid for men's lacross,
women's volleyball and all that stuff, or are those other
sports she's kind of left out into the win. That's
one thing I'm not sure of yet. Yeah, I really
think they were clear on that, and I don't think
they're clear. And here's what the sentence says, and this
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is the ESPN article, but it says half of the
money that is left after the scholarships would be distributed
evenly among all players at the FBS level. And so
I'm wondering, as I asked you, rob Gie, if that
would be all split evenly or would Alabama get more?
Because here's the problem to me, is an Alabama or
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an Ohio State LSU. You know, all these big time
programs that are on television more, they're gonna make more
money than you know, Indiana, uh, Northwestern, Kent State, all Toledo,
all these schools. That to me, that's like an unfair
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recruiting advantage, don't you think, right? I mean, they already
get the best players, but that would make it even more. So. Yeah,
it's just me or you know, no, I see what
you're saying. But there's no other way around it, you know,
like you don't think you could just distribute it evenly
I mean, which sounds kind of a little strange as well.
I mean, and that that could you know, you could
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they getting as much, their players are getting as much
as Alabama because the other thing, Robbies, remember, you get
you still can benefit off your name and likeness. Right,
that's Alabama, that's right, right, that's where you make more,
right right? Yeah. And then but then in that case,
the the seventy third man is getting as much as
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the star quarterback I mean, which that doesn't sound bad
to me, rob If you split it up evenly among
all the FBS players, and then if a kid is
a star and Nike wants to endorse him or something,
you know, him to endorse their product, then he can
make more. That seems fair. That seems more fair than
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the blue blood programs, who already have an advantage, getting
even more of an advantage because they can pay you
more to go there, you know what I mean. No,
it looks like it would be weighted in their favor,
right if they can do it that way. I just
love the idea that they're going to cut the players in.
That's all we're Chris, We're way beyond the point of
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you know, this is not the old days where people
went to go see college. And when I was in college,
you know, I can remember Manute Ball playing at Southern Connecticut.
Did you know, I would tell you that he can't
play because lay at Fairfield Fairfield which is in Connecticut,
and he played there, and he came for a game.
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It was a big deal. He was obviously a big deal.
But back then, Chris, you got into the field and
he played at the field house on campus, and if
you had a student ID, you got him for free.
And local people from Hamton and New Haven could come
in and I don't know what the tickets were, three dollars,
five dollars, you know what I mean, Like, that's really
what it was. That's college amateur sports. So that money
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I could see where there's nothing there to be split.
But the way athletics are now, and obviously my school
was Division two, but I'm saying, when the kind of
money that they pull in with television and tickets and
season tickets, Chris, and concessions and parking and all that
other stuff, players should get a piece of it. No doubt,
it's professional football. Let's just keep it real. And I mean,
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if you questioned it, and we've even heard some of
the Jeff Capel, who played a duke I believed for
Shawsky but now as a coach I think in Pittsburgh,
he said it. Remember last week when Shivsky was saying
they shouldn't be playing during COVID, Capel said, if there
was any doubt as to whether or not they're not amateurs,
this is it. They're playing. What's the difference between a
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college kid at the FBS level or the Division one
basketball level and wanted the Division two level. They make
money for the schools, that's it, you know, because they
can D two in D three right And they asked
them to work during the pandemic, so those are essential workers, employees. Chris,
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I haven't been on the campus at USC in a year,
you know what I mean, in the last two semesters,
since we closed up everything in March, and I'm teaching
this coming semester and again it'll be virtual online. So
but you've asked the football players right right now, it
looks and then you look at the salaries and I'm
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not saying they shouldn't get paid, but you look at
what Nick Saban and Jim Harbaugh and Mike Shovski, John Calipark,
all these coaches are making. It's just not fair. And
then on top of that, they get deals, endorsed deals,
even though even though they don't wear the sneakers. The
kids were the sneakers. They don't even wear the sneakers, right,
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Nobody ever sees them in the Nikes or the Adidas
or right, you can see that, right, we only see
the games and they don't They're wearing shoes and slacks, yep,
and they're not wearing sneakers. And kids aren't gonna buy
a pair of Nikes Nikes because a coach chaos. Let's
just be honest. I mean, the deal is for the
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kids to wear them. They want zion, but they get money.
But right, but the coaches and they expect the kids
to be satisfied with, you know, sneak six pairs of
the sneakers for the year or whatever. Yeah, so I
agree with you. I think it's high time that these
students got cut in it. It's not an easy you know,
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there are a lot of different proposals out there. This
is just one of them. It's the latest. It seems
pretty good, pretty thorough. Obviously they're sharp people. They would
also create a commission Rob on college athletics. That would
be a nine person board that would kind of enforce
all of this stuff. So it would be like, and
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we know the NC DOUBLEA has been terrible, and so
it would take the power out of their hands and
give it to this board. So that sounds like something
that is not bad idea either. So it's interesting. I
like it, whether it is in this exact form or not.
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with Chris Brussar then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm
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iHeart Radio app. We've been counting them down on the
top twenty athletes of the last twenty years. In other words,
the top twenty athletes of the century thus far, and
we're down to the top three. But before we get
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to those three, let us recap now our top twenty
and twenty, the twenty top athletes in the past twenty years.
And here's a quick recap of twenty through four twenty.
Sidney Crossby number nineteen, Very Bonds number eighteen, Jimmy Johnson
number seventeen, Mariano Rivera number sixteen, Steph Curry number fifteen,
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Shaquille O'Neil number fourteen, Simon Bios number thirteen, Tim Duncan
number twelve, Christiano Ronaldo number eleven, Paying Many number ten,
Floyd Mayweather number nine, Leo Messi number eight, Roger Federer
number seven, you say Bold number six, Kobe Bryant number five,
Serena Williams number four, Michael Phelps and now number three.
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Tiger Woods. He had done a half Tiger It's back
Tiger Woods. The two thousand nineteen Masters. Chap Woods ranked
second all time in major victories with fifteen and completed
the career Grand Slam three times in his career. His
eighty two PG eight tour wins tied him for the
most all time, and eleven times He's been named the
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PG eight Tours Player of the Year. He's been the
top ranked player in the world for a record total
six hundred eighty three weeks and holds the all time
record for consecutive cuts made at one forty two. In
twenty nineteen, Woods was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom
and has amassed more than one point five billion in
winnings and endorsements. Well, Tiger Woo, Tiger wooer Woo Woo.
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That look, I think remember Tiger did a lot before
the year two thousand. You know, asked when he started
his career obviously in the nineties, and uh, did a
lot before two thousand and uh, but but obviously since
two thousand just took it to a whole other level.
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So um, look, we know the top three who they are.
We don't know the order yet, but you're talking about
Lebron James Tiger Woo and Tiger Woods and Tom Brady
Tiger Woo, you know from the movie Shower. Is there
any chance that there could be some like a magic
colon Josh Gibson will be number two on this list,
Like you know, with things changing in twenty twenty nine, Alex,
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everything's not funny rob okay. But yeah, you what, don't
you You got any problem with that? No? I mean no,
I know, because, like you know, part of that he
didn't do well, right, So so I get if this
was Tiger and the kind of steamrolled all the way through,
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then he might be at the number one at the list.
But I could see why it's not number one. I
think three is failed. Let's move on, Come down down
number two, Lebron James. But Japle Macron has come home.
The Kevaliers are NBA champions, and the impossible dream has
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come true. Cleveland, this is for you. James is a
four time NBA champion who brought titles to three different franchises.
The four time MVP has appeared in ten NBA Finals,
including eight straight appearances from twenty eleven to twenty eighteen,
and has won four Finals MVP Awards after seventeen seasons.
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Lebron currently ranks third in all time scoring, has been
named All NBA First Team for a record thirteen times,
and has been selected to sixteen All Star Games three
times in his career. He was named AP mal Athlete
of the Year, and in twenty twenty earned his third
SI Sportsperson of the Year honor in twenty eighteen. Through
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his foundation, Lebron opened a public elementary school in his
hometown of aacrad, the I Promise School, which James has
said is one of his greatest accomplishments. Well, Rob, I
full disclosure. I had Lebron number one on my list.
And remember you you we all got criteria. This was
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different from like MVP voting and all that stuff, because
they gave us criteria, and one of the criteria was
what they've done off the court or field or whatever
track as well. And so obviously he's done a ton
on the court. But when I added on what he's
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done off the court to me, that's what made it
Lebron over time. Brady for me was Lebron. You know
what he's done off the court. I got a problem
with Tom Brady being number one. I'm gonna be honest.
Why do you think I say that, Well, because you've
got a problem with Tom Brady. No, No one's in
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the restroom, no or no soda. I mean, well, we
know now because we know the top three, we're Tiger,
Brian and Tom Brady. Therefore hit it come down down
number one. Tom Brady. They're all special and you know,
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two years ago came down to the Malcolm making it play,
and this year down twenty five points. I mean, it's
hard to imagine us winning. Tom Brady is a six
times Super Bowl champion, appearing in the game nine times,
both NFL records. Brady won four Super Bowl MVP awards
in those games, and it's been tabbed as the league's
regular season MVP on three separate occasions. He is the
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NFL all time leader in touchdown passes and ranked second
all time in passing yards. Brady is the only NFL
quarterback in history to win more than two hundred regular
season games. In two thousand and seven, Brady was named
the Sports Illustrated Sportsperson of the Year. The same year
he broke NFL single season marks for passing yards and
touchdown pass us. All right, Rob, go ahead, here's my issue, Tom.
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Tom Brady's winning is marred by cheating by their organization,
and I think it's unfair for people to discount. Tom
Brady was suspended for the flat Gate and Bill Belichick
was a fine heavily the largest find in NFL history
for Spygate and for the voters to overlook that when
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they hold it against Barry Bonds, I don't think it's fair.
I don't think that Tom Brady. I think Lebron James
should be first and Brady shouldn't be number one because
of the marks that go on with the Patriots, because Chris,
just as many people love the Patriots, there are a
lot of people around NFL America who don't respect their
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winning because it hasn't always been above board. No, that's fair.
I mean, like I told you, I had Lebron number one,
not just what he's done on the court, but also
what he did off the court, which we were told
was a prior to criteria. Um, I don't hold it
as much against Brady with the cheating, but you're it
(30:32):
is there, you know, let's not right, it is there.
And when I think, in what should be a very
close race between Lebron and Brady to be number one,
that is enough? Right? What do we always say when
we're choosing between the goats? Your nitpick? Right? And that's
(30:52):
a knit to pick, you know, And it's out there, Chris,
it's not just and it's not it's not just rumoring
into you and way like he was suspended for four games. Right,
he was suspended, not rumored, he was suspended, and Bill
Belichick was was find the largest finding the history of
the NFL. All I'm saying is that those are real things.
(31:13):
And if we're gonna hold other guys, right, people for
for um cheating right to be right, why why are
we holding those guys and saying no, you can't be
there because you there's something in your past, there's a
cheating scandal. Well, and I think too because a lot
(31:36):
of people might say because I recognize Brady as the goat,
and a lot of people might say, well, he was
great even without it. You know, the deflat gate when
when the Coats wasn't it the coats they were playing,
they switched the balls and he just demolished them. He's
been playing with real players. They say that they got
cheated out of that first Super Bowl, that they were
(31:57):
all right, right, I mean, yeah, sorry, But I'm just saying,
even when I acknowledge, I believe without the filming and spygate,
without the deflated balls, Brady was still great. And that's
been proven certainly without the balls and without spy guy,
I mean, unless they've still been doing it, which would
(32:18):
be incredible, but it's been proven. He's still great. But
it's a it's it is there. It is a blemish,
and to me, that would be enough of a blemish
to make Lebron the number one guy. Definitely not to
make Brady number one because of that's a that's a
huge blemish. If Lebron had in his path, Chris, that
(32:41):
he had that he took h gh, don't tell me
everybody would look at him the same way? Am I right?
If that was out there, No, I think it would
be different. I agree with that.
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