January 31, 2024 • 33 mins
Chris and Rob discuss LeBron James’ latest passive-aggressive tweet seemingly directed at the Los Angeles Lakers front office, tell us why they have no sympathy for Joel Embiid potentially missing out on All-NBA honors because he likely won’t reach the 65-game minimum threshold and debate whether the Dallas Cowboys can win a Super Bowl with Dak Prescott at quarterback.
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
In fact, this is what Lebron should do with his
teammates instead of sending the cryptic tweets.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Rob g tell us the tweet, Rob Lebron said, well,
he wasn't the only one first to set off a
cryptic tweet. Things have been escalating in the Lakers locker
room now for about a month. All started. The Athletic
did that article where they had six sources around the
team said there was a growing disconnect between Darvinham and
the Lakers. Darvinham, you know, since then, has done several
postgame press conversation where he talks about we got a
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man up these guys. You know, the rotations are what
they are. There's no popularity contest, and it's almost pitying
him against the team. So yesterday, before the game, Anthony
Davis was supposed to be starting as usual, he was
ruled out due to hip and groin issues, and so
you would think Christian would the backup cent would get
the start. He doesn't. Third stringer Jackson Hayes gets the start.
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He puts out lol before the game. He tried to
backtrack it after the game. It was a big old deal.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
What have you?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well after that kind of died down. About an hour later,
Lebron James, fresh off his own media availability where he,
you know, supposedly saved himself from saying something stupid, decided
he's gonna put out an a mooji of an hour glass.
No context, no comment, just good old passive aggressive Lebron
James striking again.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
First, Christian Wood. I mean Christian Wood can shoot. He
scores better than Jackson Hayes, but maybe they wanted a
little more of a presence defensively. And I'm not saying
Jackson Hayes is Joe l Embiid on the defensive end,
but I think he gives a little more effort on
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that end than Christian Wood. That's been Christian Willid's problem
throughout his career defense. And that's why despite being a
score he's a legit scorer. He hasn't stuck anywhere. This
dude averaged twenty points a game or close to it.
I think he did average twenty four a few years,
but he keeps getting moved all over the place.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Twenty one points one year.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But because he doesn't give effort on the defensive end
and can't defense.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So that might be why Darvin Ham made that move.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And I don't know if maybe Christian I'm not gonna
say he's a liar, but maybe that was his issue.
I think with Lebron, Lebron James is better than a
cryptic tweet an emoji. Lebron James is the most respect
player in the league. Lebron James one of the two
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best players ever.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Lebron James.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If any player has the authority to say to the
front office, or to say to the coaching staff, or
to say to his teammates, we gotta get it together.
This has bothered me. What are we doing to fix this?
It's Lebron Enough with the Sherlock Holmes stuff. I mean,
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how did the team How do you think your teammates
feel walking into the locker room, walking to practice, and
they got this cryptical They don't know how their superstar
leader feels. It was that directed at us? Was that
directed at coach? Was that directed at you know, his
own time here with the Lakers? Because it was an
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hour glass, it was an hour glass emoji that was
pouring out.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So was that Lebron saying?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Times running out on Ham, Times running out on some
of my teammates who might get dealt hopefully, times running
out on my time with the legacy.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
None of them are good though, So I'm just saying
Lebron is better than this.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He's been a great, a good leader.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I know he's always done some of these little cryptic
tweets and I never I don't really care for him.
I'm like, say, talk to the people, let's solve this.
If we gotta argue, fine, like me and Rob sometimes
we argue, fine, let's settle it like men.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And that's what I think Lebron should do.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
If he got some it's not gonna change who he is.
He's done this forever. This is who he is. He's
done it before.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
No shocker that Lebron won't confront it or take any
responsibility as what's going on. It's always about somebody else.
It's always somebody else is to blame. Let's blame uh Walton,
Let's blame who else who came?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Uh well, vote was Vogel was that was Vogel, was
vocal after Wald Walton, Vogel.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
And now it's Ham and now the players aren't good enough.
They won the they won the offseason, they went to
their only this team only went to the Western Conference.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Finally, you're right, this team only.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Won the end season tournament that he would have had
his chest stuck out. They they shot around, sprayed more
cheap champagne that I've seen since that to banished his wedding.
I mean, like that's all that was going on, and
now all of a sudden, none of it matters, and
none of it is good enough, and everybody else is
to blame. A d and him are playing most nights
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and they're at five hundred right looking to me, real
top it? You just can't keep doing this. I agree, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And not Rob.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know what the only answer now if they want
to get rid of Darwin here, look just the same guy,
like you said, let him to the conference finals. Let
him to the nd season tournament all of a sudden,
he don't know how to coach. But if you get
rid of him and you know, or you make a
trade some of your role players for some other role players,
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is what's gonna change. The only thing that's gonna really
help them is if Lebron and ad take care of this.
And look, I don't think Lebron's capable at this stage,
no shame in that he's thirty nine years old, but
he got Anthony Davis playing some of the best ball
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of his career, playing arguably the best stretch he's played
with the Lakers, arguably this first half of the season,
and they can't be five hundred. So it's just I
agree Lebron has to look in the mirror. That doesn't
mean his teammates aren't, you know, are doing everything they
need to do either.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But he's a part of it as well. He's a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I know Lebron's smart enough to know his numbers
just because they're the same as the rest of his
career doesn't mean he's playing close to that level. And
so they there's really no.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Answer for him. They need to look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I think Lebron and Ad need to lead them
to however high they can go the role players.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
If Lebron and Ad take the bull.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
By the horns and lead them, I think the role
players will follow, meaning they'll do the best they can.
And this is not a championship team. Because you can
just see.
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, and Joe l NB Rob, who's playing, He's having
the best season in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He right now, UH has played like the MVP front runner.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
The question that has come about is will he play
the requisite sixty five games that is necessary to be
eligible for postseason awards?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And so he missed the previous two games before last night,
he goes out there, tries to play against Golden State
and suffers a knee injury or worsens his knee injury.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
UH.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And now there's a lot of hand ringing at discussion
about that. Rob, You want to summarize this stuff for us?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sure, So Joel Embiid's knee has been a topic of
conversation for about a week and a half now, or
maybe about a less than a week, because you recall
he had that big showdown against Nikola Jokic in Denver,
would have been his first time.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
In four seasons.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, as part of Rivals Week, Rob, this was a
big NBA initiative to get these guys to play each other.
And Joel Embiid famously was not listed on the injury report,
and yet fifteen minutes for tip off, they ruled them out.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
So and that was his fourth straight time not playing
in them exactly. So yeah, that's it looked. It looked
really really bad.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Right, So last night he ends up coming back from
injury to face off and Steph Curry and the Warriors.
He ultimately loses that game, but more importantly, he looked
very sluggish out there, and then he ended up injuring
that same left knee again. In this case, though, they're
saying that it was a different injury than the one
he's currently dealing with. So fast forward to Wednesday morning.
(10:18):
Sam Amk from The Athletic Friend of the Show reports
that people in and around the Sixers organization say that
Embad's dealing with his knee injury, not just in the
last week or two weeks, even dealing with it basically
all season, and that's part of the reason why his
minutes are not as high as some of the other high.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
When he was going for seventy what DoD he have
three that night?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, that was the night.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Looked good that night, you know how it is, Robin,
but he scored like a point a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, So they added and then Sam Amk also added
that according to people in the Citus organization, MBAD still
probably should not have played last night against Golden State
the previous two games, but he was so concerned about
the backlash he had been getting because of the Denver
debacle and the whole narrative about him possibly not being
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eligible for all NBA or MVP honors, that he decided
he'd have to get out there and give it a go,
even though he knew he wasn't ready to play.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And didn't Tyres Haller Burton, the star point guard for
the Pacers, say something about the sixty five game rule.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, he said it was a terrible rule. And actually
it's been a whole chorus of guys as recently as
last terrible rule. I mean, that's what's being pointed out.
You got Draymond Green say on his podcast something similar like,
you know, these guys are risking their bodies just so
they can make these sixty five game rule and it's
a big backlash from NBA players.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, let's talk about that, Rob, What are your thoughts
on this rule sixty five?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Chris, we talked about it.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
If you if you don't want to do that, you
got to come up with minimums then you know what
I mean, like shot attempts, You can't do it in
basketball like you do in baseball.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What they have a minimums for to be l for
like to be the leading scorer officially, right, to be
the leading rebounder, you have to play a certain number
of games.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Right, But that's what I'm saying, Like like in baseball,
it's about played appearances Chris, or you know what I.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Mean, batting at eighty at bats.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Exactly like like you can't or you played half the
season and you batted at three forty and they're gonna
give you the batting title.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
A guy played the whole year bett at three.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Twenty five and he doesn't get the TI right, right,
So that's what that is to safeguard against. And I
don't know the pushback on it makes no sense. There
should be a minimum of games you have to play
to qualify. It's pretty simple. It's pretty cut and dry.
I don't think it's radical at all.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm totally with you, Rob, And for the players to
complain about it is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Rob playing about playing sixty five games out of eighty
two Chris, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Seeing games And I know that the fear was, well,
you know, guys are gonna shoot for sixty five or
sixty six games, and they're going to pencil in or
the team, because the teams had a role in this too.
The team's going to pencil in fifteen, sixteen, seventeen absences
so they can low manage.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And rest hogwash. All right?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And Rob, as you know, I'm a voter for these
postseason awards, the regular season awards, and before last season,
the Bill Walton did win the MVP only playing fifty
eight games back and I think it was seventy seven,
and that was when players voted.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And we've talked about players. Players don't vote, well, they
just don't.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
They don't have a good history, Chris, they don't. We
talk about all the time whenever people question before the
last couple of Hall of Fames Chris and baseball before that,
it was always the veterans committee. Right, he's a form
of players like y' how did he get in? Well,
the players voted him, man, Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And even in the seventies, Rob, when the players voted,
you had a couple guys win the MVP, I think
with losing records and you know, not making the playoffs
and stuff like that, and so the media started voting
in nineteen eighty. After that point, the most games a
player had missed and won the MVP was I believe
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Alan Iverson when he won his MVP, he played seventy
of the eighty two games.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's a fair number.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right, And so I kind of used that as a barometer. Okay,
if a guy plays less than seventy or sixty nine
or something, and I'm just gonna kind of be like
he's ineligible.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Because obviously your team needs you to be there.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
If you're gonna be the most valuable player, you need
to be there on most nights, overwhelmingly most nights. But
last year, Rob, it was ridiculous voting for the All
NBA teams.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I think I don't remember. I think I had players
on their.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Play fifty something games because it was so many that
had missed.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So many of the stars were missing games.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Missing, and I have too many in the eighty two
game season, that's all.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, stop, Look if the science, if the teams, if
the players really wholeheartedly feel like you can't play eighty
two games anymore because of the wear and tear on
the body, because you gotta guard so much more of
the floor because the floor is spread out now it's
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not all near the paint. Then, you know what, be
honest with the fans that pay your bills and cut
the games in the season yep, or go to these.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Five people, Chris, give people an honest like he's not playing.
Don't buy tickets if you came to see Kevin Durant,
or you came to see Lebron James, or you can
get a refund on your tickets. Like, if you don't
do that, then you could do it. The fans will
be like, do whatever you want. But but to you know,
have people spend their harder money. We talk about it
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over and over, man, because it's real when a fan
and a family, Chris and the kids get real. It
is expensive to go to a game. I paid it.
I went to a Clipper game eight ninety nine for
a diet coke. Chris, I thought I had a gun
in my back.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean seriously, because Rob, what families want to do?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you got a young son ten years old whatever,
and he loves basketball, You're like, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Steph's in town.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Can I say, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Gonna bring him the C and B play whether your team,
your local team is good or not. And then it's
hard to do that now, to shell out all that
money when you.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Know there's a good chance that that star is not playing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's not good for the league, it's not good for
the fans, and it's not good for even the competitive
advantage or nature of the players in the league.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
And so I'm totally.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
With the rule, and the network's Chris who who shut
out a ton of money. That's why this next contract
is going to be very interesting because the networks have
felt like they've gotten a short end of the stick
on the big games of national games. How many times
last year Chris, I'm looking forward to this game, and
we'll be talking, and then you find out right before
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we go off the air that so and so is
not playing.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
You would be like, I was looking forward to that game.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I think it has had a bit of an effect,
even though in me I don't even like look forward.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, I look forward to the games.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Obviously I love the sport, but I mean, when I
know there's a big game, my first.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Thought as well, okay, are they are the stars playing?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
They plays?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
My first thought, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And if I find out they're playing great, I'll get
into it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Because you also, rob.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Look at these games as measuring sticks, right, people want
to see this invert Philly MBIID yokics to kind of
measure him, right, how good is Philly really?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And imagine showing up.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
To start, Yeah, and then Embad's not there, like like,
I know, you gotta be pissed. So let me give
you this the numbers on EMBIID and the MVP. This
is from Vegas.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So in a span of three days, EMBIID.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Win Chris from a plus one twenty at bet MGM
to win the MVP. He was a favorite plus one
twenty right to now plus fifteen hundred, which is fifth.
Because Vegas they don't think he'll play sixty to sixty
five games needed because from where he is, we're just
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starting February. We got February, March and parts of April
got twentelve months.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, I and they're probably right, and you know what,
and for.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Tomorrow already right, well, he does another game.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I guess the question people want want to ask is
do you feel sorry for him? I mean, I hate
the fact that he can't stay healthy. I hate the
fact that he's banged up, But do I feel sorry
for him? Like, man, if he only played sixty games,
he still should get the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No he shouldn't. No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You miss twenty two games? I mean, come on, that
that affects seeding.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And then there's another guy out there, maybe Yannis or
Yo Kitch or whoever shake Gilger's, Alexander Luca, busting their
butt playing seventy five games, and you're supposed to get
the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't feel so players. I hurt, but I don't
feel bad that he won't get MVP if he don't
play sixty five games.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And I don't understand the pushback from the players, like
really like like like it just doesn't even make sense.
You have to earn the MVP, really like, oh, yeah,
he played fifty five games, give him the MVP.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's them not getting it, rob, I mean, we talked
about it, you know, and I think that's just another
example of them not getting it in this regard. And
thank God for this rule and the writers that that
take this stuff seriously. And I'm not saying obviously the
players take it seriously, but a lot of you know,
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a lot of times they're not seeing the other teams
as much either, Rob you know, and and they're you know,
so they closely as the media that really you know,
takes this seriously. Again, not saying the players don't take
it seriously. Obviously they do, but they're playing, they're not
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necessarily observing and analyzing and things like that.
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Let's get this part.
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Speaker 4 (21:21):
We're gonna go to the NFL rib.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Jerry Jones, of course, was running his mouth talk to
a friend of the show, Clarence Hill, beat writer who
covers the Cowboys, and Jerry's at the senior ball scouting.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So here's what he told him about Dak Prescotts has.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Done nothing to change my mind of any promise for
the future. I think I said in the deal that
we'd go as far as Dak Texas in the playoffs.
Remember that, right, I go as far as Dak Texas, right,
And that's how far we went. Okay, So my point
is that's doesn't change your table where we'll go as
far as Dak Texas.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
That's hilarious to me, Ron that he actually said, and
that's how far are we with It'd be one thing if.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They got to the.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right lost in a battle. You know, they got stomped
by the freaking seventh seed, stomped by the youngest team
to make the playoffs in nearly fifty years on your
home turf where you at won sixteen straight games.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I mean that was it was guest right, It really
was right, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't remember all the playoff losses, but to me,
that's the worst. It's certainly the worst I've seen from
the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Consider where they were, Chris, and the idea that, like
you said, they had won sixteenth straight. They are different
teams at homes at home, right, they're a different team.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
So so you didn't get that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Somehow that team didn't show up and all the other stuff,
and we already know like they've always been kind of
lukewarm on Dak. We talked about that Chris waiting prolonging
and their contract because it cost him a lot more money.
Dak wound up getting right the first year of that deal,
like seventy five million.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Dollars because they have waited.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I remember the talk was would you should you give
him thirty?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Did you give him twenty eight? I mean really that
was the talk.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And I waited waited. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me ask you this is the question I want
to ask you, because we know the Cowboys obviously want
to win.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
A Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you think you can win a Super Bowl with
Dak Prescott as your quarterback?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I mean, could you win?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
If you have a great def Yes, I'm not saying
you couldn't because we've seen lesser quarterbacks win Super Bowls
when they have dominant defenses. And you just if you
if you have that day, Chris, when you show up
and you don't turn the ball over and make any mistakes,
could you win?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Sure? But but it's not. I think the problem is.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You don't feel like you could win because of that,
Like Dak is going to carry you there you have
a SoC defense. Oh, he's just gonna throw the lights
out of it the ball, you know what I mean
and beat you in that way. Like you can say
whatever you want about Eli Manning, and I know we
talk about him every so often.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
There's no denying in the playoffs, Chris, he got it done, right?
Can we say that?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Like, did you get it done? I mean, I honestly,
and I think you probably agree with this.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Dak was a better It is a better regular season,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I was, but it counts, which that's not irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But at the end of the day, the bigger thing
is what you do in the playoffs, right.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But because that's what you're gonna people gonna look at
and say, dude, like it was nice that you won
sixteen in a row and you shredded and you were
to play after the NFC player the Offensive Player of
the month Chris in November or December whatever, it was
probably finished second in MVP, right and all that. But
but but that that's we've seen the movie and it's
not like he's played one. He's been eight years, he's
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been around for eight years.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Chris rock Party has already got twice as many playoff
wins as Dak.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
How many playoff wins does Dak havev?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Two?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Is that only five? Yep?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Two and five? And Brock perties four?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And can I give you?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Can I give you one that's that that will rock
people's world?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Give me a hint, because I want to see if
I can guess it. Okay, is this stat or what?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That Jets quarterback?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah? I mean, go ahead out.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Mark Sanchez has four road playoff wins, Chris four.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Now I knew that. Yep, the playoffs four? Ye yep?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
No, he won't that good?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No, Look, I think you you pretty much hit it
on the head with Dak.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
There are quarterbacks Rob that we would say I.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Think he's gonna win a super Bowl. Joe Burrow, You
it's early, But you might say that about C. J.
Stroud maybe Lamar. I mean, obviously it was disappointing what
he did in the last playoff game. He had a
great window before that. But can I say that is
close to that?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Let me just say this, if Lamar played the way
that he plays Chris and they lost, I would be
way more disappointed.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I know he could play better than that.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I just do you know what I mean, Like, like
what he did that Sunday just did not make any
sense to me. So I'm not saying that he didn't
lose or he can play better than that. That's not
his game. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
No, I feel you.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
But Jay Josh Allen, he hadn't been to a super
Bowl yet, but I think you feel like he's he's
If I had to bet Rob, I would say before
he's done, he gets at least one. That's what I
would say. I'm not convinced because I think there's something
and Jim Jim, Jim Kelly and the Bills Chris had.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
An awesome team for a stretch, they couldn't win one.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
There's something that just doesn't And I don't know if
it's the thirteen seconds in Kansas City, Chris.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
That they'll never overcome. I don't know, but they should
have by now.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
And because they haven't, you start losing players, you start
losing coaches, you know what I mean, And before you
know what, you.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Look up and eight years have gone by.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's the point I'm trying to make is that I
look at some guys in this league and think they're
gonna get one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They're gonna get one.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I don't look at Dak.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't put Dak in that class where I expect
him to get one. I do agree with you. I
definitely think you can win a super Bowl with Dak.
Prescott is your quarterback, no doubt about it. He's a
very good quarterback. And this year he was great during
the regular season. He had a great season. But like
you said, you need a very good defense, which they have.
(28:02):
They don't have the best defense in the league, but
I think they do have a defense that's top five ish.
And you need Rob And you know I've said this
since Dak got in the league. Dak cannot be the
guy to put you on his back and carry you.
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You need your force, your driving force needs to be
the run game. And then Dak is can manage the
game and make some big plays here and there with
his arm and with his legs. That's when he's at
his best. And this year, Rob, during the regular season,
(28:44):
he did carry them because Tony Polter was really their
only running back, their main one, and Tony and people
were right about this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Robin, you and I wondered about it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But ton the carrying the full load, not having another
back that could offen up the defense and take the
big hits that hurt Tony Pollard and he didn't have
his typical season. But if you get that guy, I
don't know that they'll have the money. To me they
should go after Derrick Henry. But if you get they
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need a meat eater at running back who can soften
up the defense, and then I think Pollard would go
back to being as good as he has been in
the past. But the run game needs to be your identity,
and then you've got a really good quarterback who can
make plays for you. But that like being your best
offensive player, Dak being the guy that's gonna make it
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happen and carry you a lie. Josh Allen, Ali, Patrick
mahomes Alai, Joe Burrow. No, he's not that guy, But
that doesn't mean you can't win a super.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Bowl with Yeah, because we talked about lesser quarterbacks who
won super Bowls. Just it's more and I think he's good.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Like No, I'm just saying I under saying. That's why
I can't That's why I can't rule him too right.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I'm just saying I can't rule them out, like, oh, no,
you'll never win with him. I couldn't say that. I
just I thought they had a good chance to get
there this year.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I did, But yeah, you picked them to win the
Nfick me, where are your thoughts on where there'll be
next year? Jerry Alue He said they're gonna be all in,
which sounded like a reference to we're gonna re sign
Micah Parsons to a huge deal. We're gonna sign Ceedee
Lamb the big money. And to do that, Rob, they're
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gonna have to extend that because they need to, you know,
divvy out that his money, and right now it would be
fifty nine million against the Caps. So they're gonna extend
him my paying big money, which I think they should.
I think they should. I don't think like next year
they won't be the favorite to me in the NFC,
but I do think they'll be in that group that.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Has a shot. But you know, I don't like their culture.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think it's it's hard to win the whole thing
with their culture.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But I think they will be in the hunt, and
I know that's not what they want.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They want to win it, but I don't think Jerry's
willing to make the changes necessary for them to really
win it. If he were, we wouldn't hear from him
all next season. They wants at the beginning of the season,
that's it. Maybe I don't even want to hear from
him that No, no, he's not gonna do it. But
it's his prerogative. He's making money for the team. But dude, say, say,
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you know what, what's the definition of insanity?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Rob?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
You know it doing the same different results. He's done it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He's done it for twenty nine years, thirty years, whatever
it is. And I wish he would just say, you
know what, next year, you're not gonna hear from me
during the season because it's gonna be all about football.
We're gonna try to do something differently. I think we
got the team to win it, and I'm just gonna
sit back and watch Rob. I think his players would
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be so relieved, and I think they would be better
off for I'm not saying they definitely win it, but
I think.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
No, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I just think it's over the top and always saying
too much and uh, and it.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Just it's because it's hard. It's hard to just say, well,
it's just the players. They just need to play better.
And that's it.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Because it's been up almost thirty years, Chris, right like that.
That's the problem is it's only been one constant over
those thirty.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Years, right, and that's Jerry. No, that's the only constant.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And it's good for business. It's good for them being
on the talk shows. Heck, we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Him right now. And he appreciates the value of your franchise.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
He's done all that. All that's good. They get to
a plus on all of that.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Only one problem since Jimmy Johnson left, basically, Chris, it's
been a bare cupboard. And I know they won the
one Super Bowl without Jimmy Johnson Barry Switzer, but that
was Jimmy's team. He just took Jimmy handed him the keys, Chris,
and he drove into the driveway. That's what he did.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
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Speaker 1 (00:31):
In fact, this is what Lebron should do with his
teammates instead of sending the cryptic tweets.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Rob g tell us the tweet, Rob Lebron said, well,
he wasn't the only one first to set off a
cryptic tweet. Things have been escalating in the Lakers locker
room now for about a month. All started. The Athletic
did that article where they had six sources around the
team said there was a growing disconnect between Darvinham and
the Lakers. Darvinham, you know, since then, has done several
postgame press conversation where he talks about we got a
(00:58):
man up these guys. You know, the rotations are what
they are. There's no popularity contest, and it's almost pitying
him against the team. So yesterday, before the game, Anthony
Davis was supposed to be starting as usual, he was
ruled out due to hip and groin issues, and so
you would think Christian would the backup cent would get
the start. He doesn't. Third stringer Jackson Hayes gets the start.
(01:20):
He puts out lol before the game. He tried to
backtrack it after the game. It was a big old deal.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
What have you?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Well after that kind of died down. About an hour later,
Lebron James, fresh off his own media availability where he,
you know, supposedly saved himself from saying something stupid, decided
he's gonna put out an a mooji of an hour glass.
No context, no comment, just good old passive aggressive Lebron
James striking again.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
All right.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
First, Christian Wood. I mean Christian Wood can shoot. He
scores better than Jackson Hayes, but maybe they wanted a
little more of a presence defensively. And I'm not saying
Jackson Hayes is Joe l Embiid on the defensive end,
but I think he gives a little more effort on
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that end than Christian Wood. That's been Christian Willid's problem
throughout his career defense. And that's why despite being a
score he's a legit scorer. He hasn't stuck anywhere. This
dude averaged twenty points a game or close to it.
I think he did average twenty four a few years,
but he keeps getting moved all over the place.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Twenty one points one year.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
But because he doesn't give effort on the defensive end
and can't defense.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
So that might be why Darvin Ham made that move.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
And I don't know if maybe Christian I'm not gonna
say he's a liar, but maybe that was his issue.
I think with Lebron, Lebron James is better than a
cryptic tweet an emoji. Lebron James is the most respect
player in the league. Lebron James one of the two
(03:03):
best players ever.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Lebron James.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If any player has the authority to say to the
front office, or to say to the coaching staff, or
to say to his teammates, we gotta get it together.
This has bothered me. What are we doing to fix this?
It's Lebron Enough with the Sherlock Holmes stuff. I mean,
(03:30):
how did the team How do you think your teammates
feel walking into the locker room, walking to practice, and
they got this cryptical They don't know how their superstar
leader feels. It was that directed at us? Was that
directed at coach? Was that directed at you know, his
own time here with the Lakers? Because it was an
(03:52):
hour glass, it was an hour glass emoji that was
pouring out.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
So was that Lebron saying?
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Times running out on Ham, Times running out on some
of my teammates who might get dealt hopefully, times running
out on my time with the legacy.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
None of them are good though, So I'm just saying
Lebron is better than this.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
He's been a great, a good leader.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
I know he's always done some of these little cryptic
tweets and I never I don't really care for him.
I'm like, say, talk to the people, let's solve this.
If we gotta argue, fine, like me and Rob sometimes
we argue, fine, let's settle it like men.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And that's what I think Lebron should do.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
If he got some it's not gonna change who he is.
He's done this forever. This is who he is. He's
done it before.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
No shocker that Lebron won't confront it or take any
responsibility as what's going on. It's always about somebody else.
It's always somebody else is to blame. Let's blame uh Walton,
Let's blame who else who came?
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Uh well, vote was Vogel was that was Vogel, was
vocal after Wald Walton, Vogel.
Speaker 6 (05:13):
And now it's Ham and now the players aren't good enough.
They won the they won the offseason, they went to
their only this team only went to the Western Conference.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Finally, you're right, this team only.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Won the end season tournament that he would have had
his chest stuck out. They they shot around, sprayed more
cheap champagne that I've seen since that to banished his wedding.
I mean, like that's all that was going on, and
now all of a sudden, none of it matters, and
none of it is good enough, and everybody else is
to blame. A d and him are playing most nights
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and they're at five hundred right looking to me, real
top it? You just can't keep doing this. I agree, it's.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
And not Rob.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You know what the only answer now if they want
to get rid of Darwin here, look just the same guy,
like you said, let him to the conference finals. Let
him to the nd season tournament all of a sudden,
he don't know how to coach. But if you get
rid of him and you know, or you make a
trade some of your role players for some other role players,
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is what's gonna change. The only thing that's gonna really
help them is if Lebron and ad take care of this.
And look, I don't think Lebron's capable at this stage,
no shame in that he's thirty nine years old, but
he got Anthony Davis playing some of the best ball
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of his career, playing arguably the best stretch he's played
with the Lakers, arguably this first half of the season,
and they can't be five hundred. So it's just I
agree Lebron has to look in the mirror. That doesn't
mean his teammates aren't, you know, are doing everything they
need to do either.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
But he's a part of it as well. He's a
part of it.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
And I know Lebron's smart enough to know his numbers
just because they're the same as the rest of his
career doesn't mean he's playing close to that level. And
so they there's really no.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Answer for him. They need to look in the mirror.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And I think Lebron and Ad need to lead them
to however high they can go the role players.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
If Lebron and Ad take the bull.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
By the horns and lead them, I think the role
players will follow, meaning they'll do the best they can.
And this is not a championship team. Because you can
just see.
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah, and Joe l NB Rob, who's playing, He's having
the best season in the league.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
He right now, UH has played like the MVP front runner.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
The question that has come about is will he play
the requisite sixty five games that is necessary to be
eligible for postseason awards?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
And so he missed the previous two games before last night,
he goes out there, tries to play against Golden State
and suffers a knee injury or worsens his knee injury.
Speaker 7 (09:11):
UH.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
And now there's a lot of hand ringing at discussion
about that. Rob, You want to summarize this stuff for us?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Sure, So Joel Embiid's knee has been a topic of
conversation for about a week and a half now, or
maybe about a less than a week, because you recall
he had that big showdown against Nikola Jokic in Denver,
would have been his first time.
Speaker 5 (09:31):
In four seasons.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Yes, as part of Rivals Week, Rob, this was a
big NBA initiative to get these guys to play each other.
And Joel Embiid famously was not listed on the injury report,
and yet fifteen minutes for tip off, they ruled them out.
Speaker 6 (09:46):
So and that was his fourth straight time not playing
in them exactly. So yeah, that's it looked. It looked
really really bad.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Right, So last night he ends up coming back from
injury to face off and Steph Curry and the Warriors.
He ultimately loses that game, but more importantly, he looked
very sluggish out there, and then he ended up injuring
that same left knee again. In this case, though, they're
saying that it was a different injury than the one
he's currently dealing with. So fast forward to Wednesday morning.
(10:18):
Sam Amk from The Athletic Friend of the Show reports
that people in and around the Sixers organization say that
Embad's dealing with his knee injury, not just in the
last week or two weeks, even dealing with it basically
all season, and that's part of the reason why his
minutes are not as high as some of the other high.
Speaker 6 (10:35):
When he was going for seventy what DoD he have
three that night?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Yeah, that was the night.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Looked good that night, you know how it is, Robin,
but he scored like a point a minute.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, So they added and then Sam Amk also added
that according to people in the Citus organization, MBAD still
probably should not have played last night against Golden State
the previous two games, but he was so concerned about
the backlash he had been getting because of the Denver
debacle and the whole narrative about him possibly not being
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eligible for all NBA or MVP honors, that he decided
he'd have to get out there and give it a go,
even though he knew he wasn't ready to play.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And didn't Tyres Haller Burton, the star point guard for
the Pacers, say something about the sixty five game rule.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yeah, he said it was a terrible rule. And actually
it's been a whole chorus of guys as recently as
last terrible rule. I mean, that's what's being pointed out.
You got Draymond Green say on his podcast something similar like,
you know, these guys are risking their bodies just so
they can make these sixty five game rule and it's
a big backlash from NBA players.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Well, let's talk about that, Rob, What are your thoughts
on this rule sixty five?
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Chris, we talked about it.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
If you if you don't want to do that, you
got to come up with minimums then you know what
I mean, like shot attempts, You can't do it in
basketball like you do in baseball.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
What they have a minimums for to be l for
like to be the leading scorer officially, right, to be
the leading rebounder, you have to play a certain number
of games.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Right, But that's what I'm saying, Like like in baseball,
it's about played appearances Chris, or you know what I.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Mean, batting at eighty at bats.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Exactly like like you can't or you played half the
season and you batted at three forty and they're gonna
give you the batting title.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
A guy played the whole year bett at three.
Speaker 6 (12:25):
Twenty five and he doesn't get the TI right, right,
So that's what that is to safeguard against. And I
don't know the pushback on it makes no sense. There
should be a minimum of games you have to play
to qualify. It's pretty simple. It's pretty cut and dry.
I don't think it's radical at all.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
I'm totally with you, Rob, And for the players to
complain about it is ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
Rob playing about playing sixty five games out of eighty
two Chris, Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Seeing games And I know that the fear was, well,
you know, guys are gonna shoot for sixty five or
sixty six games, and they're going to pencil in or
the team, because the teams had a role in this too.
The team's going to pencil in fifteen, sixteen, seventeen absences
so they can low manage.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And rest hogwash. All right?
Speaker 1 (13:17):
And Rob, as you know, I'm a voter for these
postseason awards, the regular season awards, and before last season,
the Bill Walton did win the MVP only playing fifty
eight games back and I think it was seventy seven,
and that was when players voted.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And we've talked about players. Players don't vote, well, they
just don't.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
They don't have a good history, Chris, they don't. We
talk about all the time whenever people question before the
last couple of Hall of Fames Chris and baseball before that,
it was always the veterans committee. Right, he's a form
of players like y' how did he get in? Well,
the players voted him, man, Yep, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And even in the seventies, Rob, when the players voted,
you had a couple guys win the MVP, I think
with losing records and you know, not making the playoffs
and stuff like that, and so the media started voting
in nineteen eighty. After that point, the most games a
player had missed and won the MVP was I believe
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Alan Iverson when he won his MVP, he played seventy
of the eighty two games.
Speaker 5 (14:28):
That's a fair number.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Right, And so I kind of used that as a barometer. Okay,
if a guy plays less than seventy or sixty nine
or something, and I'm just gonna kind of be like
he's ineligible.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
Because obviously your team needs you to be there.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
If you're gonna be the most valuable player, you need
to be there on most nights, overwhelmingly most nights. But
last year, Rob, it was ridiculous voting for the All
NBA teams.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
I think I don't remember. I think I had players
on their.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Play fifty something games because it was so many that
had missed.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
So many of the stars were missing games.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Missing, and I have too many in the eighty two
game season, that's all.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Yeah, stop, Look if the science, if the teams, if
the players really wholeheartedly feel like you can't play eighty
two games anymore because of the wear and tear on
the body, because you gotta guard so much more of
the floor because the floor is spread out now it's
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not all near the paint. Then, you know what, be
honest with the fans that pay your bills and cut
the games in the season yep, or go to these.
Speaker 6 (15:41):
Five people, Chris, give people an honest like he's not playing.
Don't buy tickets if you came to see Kevin Durant,
or you came to see Lebron James, or you can
get a refund on your tickets. Like, if you don't
do that, then you could do it. The fans will
be like, do whatever you want. But but to you know,
have people spend their harder money. We talk about it
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over and over, man, because it's real when a fan
and a family, Chris and the kids get real. It
is expensive to go to a game. I paid it.
I went to a Clipper game eight ninety nine for
a diet coke. Chris, I thought I had a gun
in my back.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
I mean seriously, because Rob, what families want to do?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
If you got a young son ten years old whatever,
and he loves basketball, You're like, oh.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Steph's in town.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Can I say, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Gonna bring him the C and B play whether your team,
your local team is good or not. And then it's
hard to do that now, to shell out all that
money when you.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Know there's a good chance that that star is not playing.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
It's not good for the league, it's not good for
the fans, and it's not good for even the competitive
advantage or nature of the players in the league.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
And so I'm totally.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
With the rule, and the network's Chris who who shut
out a ton of money. That's why this next contract
is going to be very interesting because the networks have
felt like they've gotten a short end of the stick
on the big games of national games. How many times
last year Chris, I'm looking forward to this game, and
we'll be talking, and then you find out right before
(17:22):
we go off the air that so and so is
not playing.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
You would be like, I was looking forward to that game.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
And I think it has had a bit of an effect,
even though in me I don't even like look forward.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, I look forward to the games.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Obviously I love the sport, but I mean, when I
know there's a big game, my first.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Thought as well, okay, are they are the stars playing?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
They plays?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
My first thought, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
And if I find out they're playing great, I'll get
into it.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
Because you also, rob.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Look at these games as measuring sticks, right, people want
to see this invert Philly MBIID yokics to kind of
measure him, right, how good is Philly really?
Speaker 5 (18:06):
And imagine showing up.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
To start, Yeah, and then Embad's not there, like like,
I know, you gotta be pissed. So let me give
you this the numbers on EMBIID and the MVP. This
is from Vegas.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So in a span of three days, EMBIID.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
Win Chris from a plus one twenty at bet MGM
to win the MVP. He was a favorite plus one
twenty right to now plus fifteen hundred, which is fifth.
Because Vegas they don't think he'll play sixty to sixty
five games needed because from where he is, we're just
(18:41):
starting February. We got February, March and parts of April
got twentelve months.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, I and they're probably right, and you know what,
and for.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Tomorrow already right, well, he does another game.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I guess the question people want want to ask is
do you feel sorry for him? I mean, I hate
the fact that he can't stay healthy. I hate the
fact that he's banged up, But do I feel sorry
for him? Like, man, if he only played sixty games,
he still should get the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
No he shouldn't. No, you shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
You miss twenty two games? I mean, come on, that
that affects seeding.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And then there's another guy out there, maybe Yannis or
Yo Kitch or whoever shake Gilger's, Alexander Luca, busting their
butt playing seventy five games, and you're supposed to get
the MVP.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I don't feel so players. I hurt, but I don't
feel bad that he won't get MVP if he don't
play sixty five games.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
And I don't understand the pushback from the players, like
really like like like it just doesn't even make sense.
You have to earn the MVP, really like, oh, yeah,
he played fifty five games, give him the MVP.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
It's them not getting it, rob, I mean, we talked
about it, you know, and I think that's just another
example of them not getting it in this regard. And
thank God for this rule and the writers that that
take this stuff seriously. And I'm not saying obviously the
players take it seriously, but a lot of you know,
(20:15):
a lot of times they're not seeing the other teams
as much either, Rob you know, and and they're you know,
so they closely as the media that really you know,
takes this seriously. Again, not saying the players don't take
it seriously. Obviously they do, but they're playing, they're not
(20:37):
necessarily observing and analyzing and things like that.
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Speaker 5 (21:17):
Let's get this part.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
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Speaker 4 (21:21):
We're gonna go to the NFL rib.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Jerry Jones, of course, was running his mouth talk to
a friend of the show, Clarence Hill, beat writer who
covers the Cowboys, and Jerry's at the senior ball scouting.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So here's what he told him about Dak Prescotts has.
Speaker 9 (21:38):
Done nothing to change my mind of any promise for
the future. I think I said in the deal that
we'd go as far as Dak Texas in the playoffs.
Remember that, right, I go as far as Dak Texas, right,
And that's how far we went. Okay, So my point
is that's doesn't change your table where we'll go as
far as Dak Texas.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
That's hilarious to me, Ron that he actually said, and
that's how far are we with It'd be one thing if.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
They got to the.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Right lost in a battle. You know, they got stomped
by the freaking seventh seed, stomped by the youngest team
to make the playoffs in nearly fifty years on your
home turf where you at won sixteen straight games.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I mean that was it was guest right, It really
was right, it was.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
I don't remember all the playoff losses, but to me,
that's the worst. It's certainly the worst I've seen from
the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (22:34):
Consider where they were, Chris, and the idea that, like
you said, they had won sixteenth straight. They are different
teams at homes at home, right, they're a different team.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
So so you didn't get that.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
Somehow that team didn't show up and all the other stuff,
and we already know like they've always been kind of
lukewarm on Dak. We talked about that Chris waiting prolonging
and their contract because it cost him a lot more money.
Dak wound up getting right the first year of that deal,
like seventy five million.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
Dollars because they have waited.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I remember the talk was would you should you give
him thirty?
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Did you give him twenty eight? I mean really that
was the talk.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
And I waited waited. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me ask you this is the question I want
to ask you, because we know the Cowboys obviously want
to win.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
A Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Do you think you can win a Super Bowl with
Dak Prescott as your quarterback?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I mean, could you win?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
If you have a great def Yes, I'm not saying
you couldn't because we've seen lesser quarterbacks win Super Bowls
when they have dominant defenses. And you just if you
if you have that day, Chris, when you show up
and you don't turn the ball over and make any mistakes,
could you win?
Speaker 5 (23:49):
Sure? But but it's not. I think the problem is.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
You don't feel like you could win because of that,
Like Dak is going to carry you there you have
a SoC defense. Oh, he's just gonna throw the lights
out of it the ball, you know what I mean
and beat you in that way. Like you can say
whatever you want about Eli Manning, and I know we
talk about him every so often.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
There's no denying in the playoffs, Chris, he got it done, right?
Can we say that?
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Like, did you get it done? I mean, I honestly,
and I think you probably agree with this.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Dak was a better It is a better regular season,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
I was, but it counts, which that's not irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
But at the end of the day, the bigger thing
is what you do in the playoffs, right.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
But because that's what you're gonna people gonna look at
and say, dude, like it was nice that you won
sixteen in a row and you shredded and you were
to play after the NFC player the Offensive Player of
the month Chris in November or December whatever, it was
probably finished second in MVP, right and all that. But
but but that that's we've seen the movie and it's
not like he's played one. He's been eight years, he's
(24:58):
been around for eight years.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Chris rock Party has already got twice as many playoff
wins as Dak.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
How many playoff wins does Dak havev?
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Two?
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Is that only five? Yep?
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Two and five? And Brock perties four?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
And can I give you?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Can I give you one that's that that will rock
people's world?
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Give me a hint, because I want to see if
I can guess it. Okay, is this stat or what?
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
That Jets quarterback?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah? I mean, go ahead out.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
Mark Sanchez has four road playoff wins, Chris four.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
Now I knew that. Yep, the playoffs four? Ye yep?
Speaker 5 (25:41):
No, he won't that good?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (25:43):
No, Look, I think you you pretty much hit it
on the head with Dak.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
There are quarterbacks Rob that we would say I.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Think he's gonna win a super Bowl. Joe Burrow, You
it's early, But you might say that about C. J.
Stroud maybe Lamar. I mean, obviously it was disappointing what
he did in the last playoff game. He had a
great window before that. But can I say that is
close to that?
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Let me just say this, if Lamar played the way
that he plays Chris and they lost, I would be
way more disappointed.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
I know he could play better than that.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I just do you know what I mean, Like, like
what he did that Sunday just did not make any
sense to me. So I'm not saying that he didn't
lose or he can play better than that. That's not
his game. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
No, I feel you.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
But Jay Josh Allen, he hadn't been to a super
Bowl yet, but I think you feel like he's he's
If I had to bet Rob, I would say before
he's done, he gets at least one. That's what I
would say. I'm not convinced because I think there's something
and Jim Jim, Jim Kelly and the Bills Chris had.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
An awesome team for a stretch, they couldn't win one.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
There's something that just doesn't And I don't know if
it's the thirteen seconds in Kansas City, Chris.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
That they'll never overcome. I don't know, but they should
have by now.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
And because they haven't, you start losing players, you start
losing coaches, you know what I mean, And before you
know what, you.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Look up and eight years have gone by.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
That's the point I'm trying to make is that I
look at some guys in this league and think they're
gonna get one.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They're gonna get one.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
I don't look at Dak.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't put Dak in that class where I expect
him to get one. I do agree with you. I
definitely think you can win a super Bowl with Dak.
Prescott is your quarterback, no doubt about it. He's a
very good quarterback. And this year he was great during
the regular season. He had a great season. But like
you said, you need a very good defense, which they have.
(28:02):
They don't have the best defense in the league, but
I think they do have a defense that's top five ish.
And you need Rob And you know I've said this
since Dak got in the league. Dak cannot be the
guy to put you on his back and carry you.
(28:22):
You need your force, your driving force needs to be
the run game. And then Dak is can manage the
game and make some big plays here and there with
his arm and with his legs. That's when he's at
his best. And this year, Rob, during the regular season,
(28:44):
he did carry them because Tony Polter was really their
only running back, their main one, and Tony and people
were right about this.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
Robin, you and I wondered about it.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
But ton the carrying the full load, not having another
back that could offen up the defense and take the
big hits that hurt Tony Pollard and he didn't have
his typical season. But if you get that guy, I
don't know that they'll have the money. To me they
should go after Derrick Henry. But if you get they
(29:14):
need a meat eater at running back who can soften
up the defense, and then I think Pollard would go
back to being as good as he has been in
the past. But the run game needs to be your identity,
and then you've got a really good quarterback who can
make plays for you. But that like being your best
offensive player, Dak being the guy that's gonna make it
(29:38):
happen and carry you a lie. Josh Allen, Ali, Patrick
mahomes Alai, Joe Burrow. No, he's not that guy, But
that doesn't mean you can't win a super.
Speaker 6 (29:48):
Bowl with Yeah, because we talked about lesser quarterbacks who
won super Bowls. Just it's more and I think he's good.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
Like No, I'm just saying I under saying. That's why
I can't That's why I can't rule him too right.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
I'm just saying I can't rule them out, like, oh, no,
you'll never win with him. I couldn't say that. I
just I thought they had a good chance to get
there this year.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I did, But yeah, you picked them to win the
Nfick me, where are your thoughts on where there'll be
next year? Jerry Alue He said they're gonna be all in,
which sounded like a reference to we're gonna re sign
Micah Parsons to a huge deal. We're gonna sign Ceedee
Lamb the big money. And to do that, Rob, they're
(30:30):
gonna have to extend that because they need to, you know,
divvy out that his money, and right now it would be
fifty nine million against the Caps. So they're gonna extend
him my paying big money, which I think they should.
I think they should. I don't think like next year
they won't be the favorite to me in the NFC,
but I do think they'll be in that group that.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Has a shot. But you know, I don't like their culture.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think it's it's hard to win the whole thing
with their culture.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
But I think they will be in the hunt, and
I know that's not what they want.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
They want to win it, but I don't think Jerry's
willing to make the changes necessary for them to really
win it. If he were, we wouldn't hear from him
all next season. They wants at the beginning of the season,
that's it. Maybe I don't even want to hear from
him that No, no, he's not gonna do it. But
it's his prerogative. He's making money for the team. But dude, say, say,
(31:30):
you know what, what's the definition of insanity?
Speaker 4 (31:33):
Rob?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
You know it doing the same different results. He's done it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
He's done it for twenty nine years, thirty years, whatever
it is. And I wish he would just say, you
know what, next year, you're not gonna hear from me
during the season because it's gonna be all about football.
We're gonna try to do something differently. I think we
got the team to win it, and I'm just gonna
sit back and watch Rob. I think his players would
(31:59):
be so relieved, and I think they would be better
off for I'm not saying they definitely win it, but
I think.
Speaker 5 (32:05):
No, no, no, I agree.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
I just think it's over the top and always saying
too much and uh, and it.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Just it's because it's hard. It's hard to just say, well,
it's just the players. They just need to play better.
And that's it.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Because it's been up almost thirty years, Chris, right like that.
That's the problem is it's only been one constant over
those thirty.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Years, right, and that's Jerry. No, that's the only constant.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And it's good for business. It's good for them being
on the talk shows. Heck, we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Him right now. And he appreciates the value of your franchise.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
He's done all that. All that's good. They get to
a plus on all of that.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
Only one problem since Jimmy Johnson left, basically, Chris, it's
been a bare cupboard. And I know they won the
one Super Bowl without Jimmy Johnson Barry Switzer, but that
was Jimmy's team. He just took Jimmy handed him the keys, Chris,
and he drove into the driveway. That's what he did.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
Absolutely, absolutely,
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