April 1, 2024 • 42 mins
Chris Broussard and Rob Parker preview the biggest night in women's hoops history and debate if Caitlin Clark needs to beat LSU to cement her legacy. The guys highlight the two biggest storylines from the NCAA Tournament. Plus, Chris and Rob give their thoughts on Kim Mulkey and Hailey Van Lith speaking out on racist sentiments aimed at their team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
What's up man?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
What's happening to mister Chris Boussard?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
How are you fantastic?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Fantastic? How was your holiday weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Uh? It was good.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was recuperating now a little down, a little under
the weather. So I was trying to stay in, Chris
and get some rare rest. You know me, I'm usually
always on the move. But the how is Easter? Did
you guys go to church and then have a family
dinner or was that good?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I actually went to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Church over in your old stomping ground, Jamaica, queen make
a queen, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
At the church I got married at.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
At the we called it the Triangle Church, Chris, the
Triangle you got married right there? That's literally three blocks
from my house. Wow, three blocks from my house.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, So we went there for Sunday service.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It was great, in a full house, all of all
the sinners who hadn't been there all year.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
My mother in law goes there, that's her church, so
she did say it was way more.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
People than you you know that. So yeah, but it
was good. And then we did go out to eat
afterwards at Capitol Grill. That was delicious.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It was good. And the bill Chris good, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The bill was but that of course I got stuck
with the bill.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You got the bill. But Chris, it's so good, am
I right?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Seriously, Capitol Grill so good? And I do want to
send one other thing. Today, Chris, our buddy David Justice,
uh joined me at my basetball writing class at USC today.
He was great, stayed the whole class, talked to him
about building relationships between players and writers and whatnot. It
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was really good. So good day, yep, good all right.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But let's introduce the Odd Couple crew. The super producer
Rob g is out so in for him.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is Ryan Holiday today it is the company holiday.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We get com time for this.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Uh. And then also, of course you just heard Steve
the Seger who is on the updates USC. Chris is
in for DJ Alex Tyser. Wow, he got his own
Superman music. There you go, hero music. Yes, all right,
it's just the music.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Oh, that's what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And for people don't know USC, Chris was one of
my former students at USC.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And look at it. Look at the stardom that he has.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, yes, the social media our man Elijah Sepun all right, Rob, let's.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Get to it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I believe tonight and it may be eclipsed within the week,
but tonight is the biggest night in the history three
of women's college basketball. You have two tremendous I mean
tremendous matchups, and all the eyes of Basketball America are
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going to be on these games. Didn't last year's championship
game LSU Iowa draw like ten thousand fans or viewers roughly?
This is ten million, I'm sorry ten million. This is
expected to eclipse that. And that, of course is Caitlin
Clark and the Iowa Hawkeyes the number one seed against LSU,
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the defending champions and led by Angel Reese.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Three seed.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, it was able to be about they won by seventeen,
and so of course this year Iowa was the higher seed.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They're the favorites.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And then rob As if that's not enough, then the
nightcap you can obviously the traditional power led by Paige
Becker's one of the best players against USC against USC
and Juju Watkins, the best freshman in the country for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Who's already on pace for people don't know uh to
be the all time leading scorer. If christ she plays
her four years and you know, a hurt or anything,
She's already done more her rookie year than Caitlyn, which
is incredible when you think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So Rob, I, do you agree with me that this
is the biggest night in women's college basketball.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yes, because this is Caitlyn. She could punch your ticket
not only to.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
The championship right final four, but to uh to the
NBA too.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Oh, I'm sorry, that's just go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's have a serious ca Okay, No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
All right, So let's no, it's thank you. No, it's
a big night. I mean it's a big night.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And and Caitlyn actually has to win.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But you're saying this is a must win for her,
must win.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And I say it from the standpoint of because that will.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Be the dart, the demerit, the.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Thing that they'll hold against her like you would Great.
You put up all these numbers, couldn't win, couldn't win.
And I think that when you talk about all time
great and Chris, I bring it up all the time,
if you don't win, it's hard for somebody to call
you the all time the greatest of all time. It
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just is I don't think it sounds right or feels
right if you haven't won something. And I think she
needs to win a national championship, I do.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I totally disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Now you may I what is a good point is,
do you have to win something to be because we're
talking about her, we're talking about is she the greatest
college player ever? That's what you're talking about. Yeah, that's
what I'm Cheryl Miller. She won a couple, right, And
you say I would think my mind.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Goes to Cheryl Miller when I think of the greatest
eff I'm just.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Saying, like, if the people wanted to make an argument
for her, Chris, it's almost impossible to make that argument
if you don't win.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's here's why I and these guys aren't considered ghosts
because I don't think she has to win. I think
talent wise, LSU, which obviously is the defending champion, they
have more.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Talent team wide.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Also, Rob, and one of the interesting things about Caitlin
Clark in this run is that she has been compared
two men, which we've never seen with college women's college basketball,
whether it's ice Cube one asking her or given offering
five million dollars for her.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
To play in the Big Three.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You saying you think she could play in the NBA,
as ridiculous as it might be, you said it. You
you know you believe it, I guess. But also Rob,
when she broke the scoring record. People threw in, well,
she's breaking pistol peach record for all time leads scorer.
We've never compared women's sports to the men's records like that,
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so that's one of the interesting things that she's being
compared to men.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
But but I think, but I think Chris also though,
what woman broke a man's broke the all time scoring
record in college that they would even compare.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm sure there might be other right about the assister,
I don't know, but the assist record, the rebound record,
like I don't say it's I don't I don't even
understand why they did that because I bet she's not
the n ai A.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Is she the n ai A scoring champion?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, but they don't even count that. Remember they feel
college basket. No, I know, but they don't. You mean,
what about Division two? Division three?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm just saying, do you remember that guy from Detroit
who played six years was gonna break pistol peats.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
He came up short. Do you remember that?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And they were they were debating whether or not that
they were even gonna count he played six years and
he wound up having a terrible night and falling short.
But people were saying he going to take that record
from Pistol Pete and he played for six years and
all the other stuff. I mean, I'm just saying there
was questions about it because of it. But I don't
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remember of a woman ever having a all time record
and anything. And you know, I mean, I don't know
some of the crossovers sports tennis, some of the track
and field, like a number of records you brought like.
I mean, I'm sure there are some things that women
have in their sport, have won more than men or
accumulated more than men, but.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
We've never compared it like that. I make that point
for this reason.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Rob There are plenty of all time great not only
NBA players, but college players that played three and four
years that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Never won championships.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Heck, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neill, David Robinson, none of them
even reached the final four. Yeah, but it against them. No,
I'm not holding again, Larry Bird. No, no, no, no, we didn't
win championship.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about I'm not
talking about just in general. But if you want to
put her up there and call her the greatest woman's college.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who's saying that.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm just saying, if that's that's this must.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
If that's your argument for her, because she's the all
time leading scorer, that means nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Nobody thought Pistol Pete was the best. Gut.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And if she were to win this year, say that
she beats them, she wins. They're there the favorites, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Really gained something she will gain.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And if they win a national championship coming off the
year she has, you can make a case for her.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Absolutely, That's all I'm saying, is I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
If you're talking strictly go I'm not talking strictly though, Okay,
you mean, I'm talking about just with the hype that
she's gotten, you know, the publicity, the fans, the viewership again,
the comparisons to men, all of that, does she need
to win? And I would say no, because we've seen
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men get that type of hype and they have it
won and no one telled it against them. That's my
That's why I say I'm not gonna hold her to
a higher standard than Tim Duncan.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah, but the difference between her and Tim Duncan is
where she is in her place in college basketball. Tim
Duncan was never in that space. And that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He was the number one picky buddy, but he wasn't where.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It wasn't only people men that have there's only a
handful that have been like I know a herd. Bird
probably didn't get.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Quite as nuha smaller at Indiana State. If he was
at Indiana, Chris, it probably would be different.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And the other thing is Bird and.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Magic and the greatest college basketball game ever and Bird loss.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Magic and Greg Kelser they wanted for Michigan State, and
I don't think that people held it against because it
was a smaller school for Bird and he's the one
of them single hand put them.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But as Caitlyn Clark put them out there, it's very similar. Now,
Angel Reach is not comparable as great as she is
to Magic Magic.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
No, no, no, it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The talent discrepancy between LSU roster I believe and iowas roster.
It is similar to Bird in that they've got one
transcendent star who's kind of carrying a team. And look,
I always had a pretty good program before Caitlyn Clark
got there.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They weren't like Indiana State or anything. They were they
were a good, really good program. But not a Yukon
or you know, Tennessee or LA you are a Baylor
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And the number for that is still mind boggling, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That is the whole different.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's a different I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But the TV channels, right, and like one and three
households had that game on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean and back then when.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You said because it was only three rights, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
It wasn't five hundred channels with four hundred with nothing
on them, which is the worst.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Right.
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Of the Week.
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Bottom of the Hour, Rob Funky, Cole Medina, Mark Medina,
Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider will join us to talk
NBA action. And speaking of action, Rob, it's not it
at thirty nine between IOWA and LSU.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
We got a ball game. We got a good ball game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
We have a ballgame. Rob. It's living up to it
for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Somebody their heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, let's go to the men's tournament and we
have I've talked about and I.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Think you've agreed with me.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But you know how I've been more excited about the
women's tournament than the men's tournament.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It didn't really play out that way initially, you know,
because first rounds and the women's aren't as many upsets
and you know all that, but at this point, Rob,
it is I mean, like, I'm more excited about these
two games tonight than I've been about any of the
two games, you know, a couple of games in the
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men's tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And the interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
For the women, Rob, is that every pretty much every
major storyline that was huge going into the tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Has it's still alive.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
LSU is an intriguing team as the defending champions. Iowall
obviously with Caitlyn Clark, usc with the great rookie or
freshman Juju Watkins, Connecticut with Paige Becker's South Carolina just
a fantastic team. Like Rob, all of those storylines are
still alive. You rarely would get that many in the
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men's tournament that's still alive, and so props to the women.
It's gonna be interesting to see what the ratings are
on this. But but they're gonna be huge, I'm sure.
But Rob, there are some interesting and really compelling things
going on in the men's tournament. First of all, you've
got yukon the number one seed overall and Rob, they.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Are just running through folks.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They've now won, including last year when they won the championship. Rob,
they have now won ten straight games in the tournament.
Incredible by double figures. That's just has that ever been
done before? Yeah, they're the Ryan if you want to
check it out, but I believe there are four or
three other teams that have similar streaks.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Uh, and so see if you can look that up Ryan.
But yeah, they're rolling.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Okay, so this is it's not unprecedented, right, No, I
don't believe so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But then there is also Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean we mentioned n C State with their Cinderella
run as the eleven seed, but also Rob zach Edy
all right, now he's the seventh fourth center from Purdue
seven to four. All right, he's the Nate Smith Player
of the Year, the Wooden Award Player of the Year,
consensus All American Rob. This is no overstatement. He is
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putting up numbers that we haven't seen in fifty plus years.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And here here are a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Through the first two rounds of the tournament, when he
had fifty three points and thirty five rebounds on sixty
eight percent shooting in the first two games. No one
had done that, basically fifty thirty five on sixty five
percent shooting since lou Al Sender obviously Kareem Abdul Jabbard
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now but lou Al Sender.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
In nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Rob also his last game when they won victory over Tennessee,
he had forty points and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Rebounds Rob on sixty two percent shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The only two other players to go forty fifteen on
sixty percent or better were Bill Bradley we have them
five yep, we had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And Elvin Hayes also in nineteen sixty eight. So think
about this.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So Zach Edy is putting up astronomical numbers, and what
I want to ask you, Rob, is this why do
you think?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And then you conn as well? You got Yukon NC State.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is Cinderella and Zach Edy putting up these historic numbers?
Why do you think these stories haven't captivated us like
the women have, or even just independent of the women,
why haven't they captivated?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I don't know that Zach Edy is interesting. I didn't
know his mother was six foot three Chris mom? How
tall his dad?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Probley was really tall to.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
His mom though, a mother six foot three is a
is a big woman, right. And his mother was born
to Chinese immigrants. I was just, you know, trying to
find out like his background. I know he's born in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
His dad's his dad is five Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
According according to this website, it says that's crazy. It
says he's just being five eight. He intentially stayed away
from a basketball court and and and com was six
to three. Dad was fine.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
And here's the other thing that Edie, which is with
his size is crazy. He played hockey and baseball, which
I understand hockey growing up in Toronto, Chris, Like in Canada,
everybody plays hockey if you if you grow up there, right,
everybody like you play little league baseball, but the but
the baseball at that height is kind of weird, right,
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I understand basketball. He played hockey and baseball as long
as well as a But to answer your question, I
would those just interesting tidbits. I don't know if the
Yukon thing is it's a different team, Chris, right, like
they it's four different players as far as stars, right,
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they're four.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Different transfer portal and just some guys you know, moved
on to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And I don't know if I don't know what like it's.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It is weird because it's not often that you have
a team with a chance to win back to back.
We talked about Florida being the last one, right, Chris,
uh to win back to back?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I don't know if Edie doesn't get the juice that
he should. Is it because he's not from this country?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Is it because is it because we already got the
Wimby fever?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And Okay, here's another really tall guy.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know, like he plays nothing like Wimby though, No, no, no,
he's all in the inside, all right.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
But I'm just saying, like, just here's another Uh. I
don't want to say what I wanted to say. But
another guy, abnormal, overly tall guy. I don't know if
people can't latch onto him or relate to him. Where Wimby,
I think Chris there's more of a chance because Winby,
as you talked about, is a different type of player,
can shoot handle the basketball. Most people can't imagine doing
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what Edie's doing, just a big guy at the rim.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think it's this and let me know what you
think can help because you're grasping.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't be because I don't know right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think it's simple rap.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I think, with all due respect to these players who
are great for what they are.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Let me hear you got something big coming out of
your mouth.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I think it's that people know they're not that great
like you.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Mean, and they've tried.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They know that the best twenty year olds, the best
twenty one year olds are all in the NBA. They
know that Zach Edy is not going to be much
of a player in the NBA. I don't believe so
in most I mean, I've seen a few mock drafts
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now with him low lottery.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Some have low first round, some second round.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't think he's gonna be great Lucas Garza was similar.
Now he wasn't seven four, he was six to eleven
at Iowa, but a twenty four point nine rebound guy
Player of the year.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
All that Rob he got.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Drafted in the second round, is roding the bench from Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And I think, and here's why I compare it to Rob.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
For years now, the last five six years, seven years,
they've been trying and we're trying again with the XFL,
trying to get spring football.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Off the ground right. But it hasn't worked yet.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I think one of the challenges they have because
I think the games are compelling.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
They're great, very good players.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
They're I mean, it's interesting, are they better than did
Division one college because all of them played at that level.
They just didn't make it to the NFL. But they're good.
Whether they're better than D one or not, they're very
good players. It's comparable to D one. But we're used
we want to watch the NFL, and when our minds
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tell us you're not the NFL and you're not going
to the NFL, we're not interested. Now we're interested in
college football because those guys, we know they're the next
group that's going to the NFL and then when college
basketball had the next group that was going to the NBA, Hey,
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we were all into it. Now, I think, and I'm
just throwing this out there. I mean, subconsciously we know.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
They're okay, but in the moment of watching college basketball
and what it is, it's still because of the tournament.
We've talked about it before, Chris, college basketball to me
has always been about the format anyway, mostly I get
it that years ago. But this is not a new
phenomenon what you're talking about. This has been going on
for a long time. I mean, this has been Gods
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have been coming out of college basketball for years.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
This isn't I think the first year that we have players.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Guys, if you stayed in the NBA in college for
three or four years, automatically thought they weren't that good.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But this has been going on for a minute. Well,
I think, like, let's look at it. Look at the women.
Caitlin Clark, we know she is for college aged players,
there's nothing better than her andju and Paige Becker's and
Angel Reached.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
They're the best.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Are the men playing in college they aren't the best
at that age.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And again, I just think people look at Zach Edi and.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They're thinking, man, dude, he's not gonna be doing much
in the NBA. And then the young freshmen who are
NBA talents, you just don't. We don't know him as well.
You know, we don't know the names as much. You know,
they're only there for one year and things like that.
So I think that that whether subconsciously or consciously, Rob,
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I just think we know it's subpar basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
It's not what we were used to seeing. Rob.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
With all due respect to Yukon, which is having a
phenomenal run, they would get bombed by the champions twenty
years ago. They would get bombed by the Fab five.
And I know the Fab five, Rob, they were free
and then sophomores they were behind these dudes.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
So so going forward, you considered then you must think
that this is where it's gonna head, and it and
it continues to head that way, like like is it
you know what I mean? Like, is there not gonna
be somebody Christian? Here's the only pushback happening.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
There's a freshman that that that that we all know
is going to the NBA. You know, it's a big
time lottery pick. That was my next dominant. Yeah, yeah,
and that's that can happen, right because they have to
go to college for one year, or they don't have
to they can go to but yeah, okay, it can
so that that would change the dynamics of college if
(27:38):
you're watching, and I'm not saying when we watched, I
remember Carmelo Anthony's tournament run that fantastic, Like that was his.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Rookie right his freshman year. Jim Beyheim wouldn't have a championship,
Chris without him. I mean, he was fantastic. He wouldn't
you think about that? Coaching fifty some odd years tied up,
he definitely would not.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But yeah, I mean a group of freshmen, like if
Kyle gets another group of strong freshmen and they defy
the odds and be some of these older teams. Sure,
if a freshman by himself kind of leads you know,
another a group of teammates deep into the tournaments of
the final four of the championship. Sure, but barring something
(28:24):
like that, Notice, though, Rob, those are guys we're describing
that will be in the NBA and be high draft picks.
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Robbers we said it.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's a barn burner out here between LSU and IOWA.
It is living up to the hype.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Rob. Caitlyn Clark is putting on a show for the
ages with thirty four points eight assists. And it's a
close game. Yeah, seventy five sixty seven. Iowa was up
with seven a little over seven minutes to play, so
it looks like it's gonna go down to the wire.
At least it's relatively close, So about all you could
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ask for.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Rob. It's a huge night.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
These ratings will probably be historic, and it's living up
to it, so good.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Good for the women.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Speaking of the women, Rob and women's basketball and one
of the coaches in this game, Kim Mulki with LSU.
There was an article in the La Times that was
talking about this was in their last game against UCLA,
and it was written before that game. But the title
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of it says, U C L A. LSU is America
sweethearts versus its back versus its basketball villains. And the
sweethearts in this case are U C l A. The
basketball villains he's referring to are the LSU Tigers. Is
written by Ben boltch Rob.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Do you know him?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
I do not know him, okay, I the LA Times, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And Kim Maulke.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The original story came out and the LSU coach, Kim
Maulky complained about it and called it sexist. She went
on a rant that we'll hear in a moment. But
her real problem with it, Rob, and the reason she
called it sexist was because they called the LSU players
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dirty debuts.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Times.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Bolt said, is like the dirty debutants against uh. He said,
he called them villains and dirty debutantes. He referred to
the UCLA players as milk and cookies, but referred to
the La Times or I'm sorry, the LSU players dirty debutantes. Now,
(31:22):
when I first heard and you heard some of you
may have been listening. You've heard little excerpts from Doug
Gottlieve talking about it, and Doug said he just thought
dirty Debutantes was kind of a clever turn of phrase,
you know phrase.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And I kind of I didn't think.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I mean, I thought it was okay, dirty debutantes, all right,
there a little shot, but okay, like villains. But then
when you go and Kim balk Even said, rob, when
you google it, she said, google it and see what
comes up.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
And I googled just dirty debutantes.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And pornography like sites, you know, por in sites and stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Aw is that right?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Links? Yeah, links to poor in sites come up.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So that is why, because I was like, what she
said is sexist?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What exactly is she talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But then when you see that, you'll kind of know,
here's malky and then you let us know what you think.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Right, I'm not going to let you attack young people.
And there were some things in this commentary guys that
you should be offended by as women. It was so
sexist and they don't even know it. It was good
versus evil in that game. Today, evil called us dirty debutants.
(32:42):
Take your phone out right now and google dirty debutants
and tell me what it says. Dirty debutants? Are you
kidding me.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah again.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
When I first heard her, I was like, I didn't
you know, I sexist?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
What does he mean?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What does she mean?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But then when you you google it, which I'm sure
you have by now, Rob, you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
See what so what do you I was saving it
for later to night what you know?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I get it that like I get what she's saying.
I get you know. I mean you can't And I
don't know if bolch Miant it that way, Like I
said that, I didn't even think of it that way.
I thought, Okay, he's calling them villains. Okay, maybe that
maybe that's going a little too far, like you know,
but Rob, and I want to ask you this as
(33:40):
a columnist, so first I want to hear your thoughts
on you But as a columnist, you know this a
lot of times and the.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
La Times obviously U c l A Right is right
there in town.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
A lot of times a local columnists will kind of
take that, you know, approach like we're you know, he'll do,
you know, write some little insults about you know, the
other team and.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
All that we've seen that Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And all the time, Like I can always remember, like
Woody Page writing columns ripping Detroit and hockey town for
for the Avalanche against you know what I mean, like
like making a thing about the Wings and the Avalanche
and down in Detroit and all the people and all
the stuff that goes on, you know what I mean,
(34:31):
Like and it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Just understood that, you know, we're going after each other
like that. And and my initial thought, Rob was, well,
this is one of the things that comes along with
the popular rising of the women's game like men's players.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And I get college is a little different, and that's
that's that's the only thing college.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
That's the only thing, Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I'm going to say, as a guy who wrote a
column you know, for a long time, I do look
at college is a little different. I try not to
be as you know, because they're not professional. So I
was always conscious of that. I'm not saying that. I
just say that I didn't criticized, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, me and Tom Izzo has a history that's
(35:16):
college basketball, right, but he's a coach to right, right.
But I'm just saying talking about the kids in the
program and not winning different big games and all that,
but not like taking out Hey, yeah, he tried I'm
not now that I probably I don't remember ever writing
a college kid in that vein where I could do
(35:39):
it for appro so.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
That's a little different.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
But I but I this is tough because I understand
and why she feels that way, and it is Chris.
I think it does come with the brighter light. Yep,
the brighter light. And now even enough the LA Times,
the right columns, you know what I mean. And even
(36:02):
in this vein they did reword it, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They edited it. They got dirty debuties.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, they didn't rewrite the column.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
They just thought that that would changed some of the
word and took that out. I don't I mean, that
takes it to another level. Obviously, you don't want any women.
You shouldn't be comparing you like that, you know, but
it's particularly college kids or high school girls or something
like that. But that and I don't know that he
(36:33):
I mean again, did he mean it that way?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I don't know, because I didn't. That was not pornography,
was not.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
With I don't think that that again, that's trying to
turn a phrase, play on words, you know what I mean.
Debutantes we know that those are women at a ball,
right or like high.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, I mean, so I do get that.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Uh, And I doubt that he meant it in a
pornography or pornographic Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Now, one of the and we talked about it earlier.
The player for LSU who started out the game guarding uh,
Caitlyn Clark, she talked about it, and, Uh, she's the
only white player that plays for ls She might there
might be another one on the team, but she's the
(37:23):
only when I see out there actually getting some time,
she said. She thought, even though you know, she's obviously
white and she's on the team, she felt like it
was a shot at her black teammates.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What is her name, Ryan what, I'm trying to find it? Yeah,
van Lift her first name. What's her first name, Helen?
So she thought it was Hailey van Lyft. So she
thought it was racist. Here here's sounded her.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
We do have a lot of black women on this team.
We do have a lot of people that are from
different areas and unfortunate. You know that that bias does
exist still today and a lot of the people that
are making those comments are being racist towards my teammates.
And you know, I'm in a unique situation where I
(38:14):
see it with myself. You know, I'll talk trash and
I'll get a different reaction than if Angel talks trash,
and so it's really up to me to you know,
it's not up to me, but I have a duty
to my teammates to have their back. And obviously, you know,
some of the words that we're using that article were
very sad and upsetting, and you know, I didn't really
(38:37):
I actually didn't want us to to read that article
before the game because hearing stuff like that, it's it's
not right, and it's not that type of description of
us isn't always motivating. I think, you know, calling us
basically the dirty debutantes like that's that's that has nothing
(39:00):
to do with sports, and that is not that's not motivating.
And so I think I wish we hadn't read that
because I think that that can crush your soul a
little bit that someone would ever say that about us
that doesn't know us. But again, you know, obviously, in
my opinion, I know for a fact that people see
us differently because we do have a lot of black
(39:21):
women on our team who have an attitude and like
to talk trash, and you know, people feel a way
about it. But at the end of the day, I'm
rocking with them because they don't let that change who
they are.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I thought that was well said by her.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
And I don't know the Dirty Debutantes had anything to
do with black women though.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well that right, I agree with that, Like I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean, she's obviously on the team and they
included her. It could be Rob but you can't say
it for sure. I just don't know he has black play.
I think they got about five or six black girls
on their team, so you know, to say they have
more white girls, but it's not it's not totally one.
This totally black, totally white. So I agree with that.
(40:03):
I think the most powerful.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Thing can I say the difference Chris real quick? And
you'll remember this when Imus wind up his radio show
got blown up with the Rutgers girls. You remember, and
I'm not going to repeat it, right, you remember that
that was different. Don't you think that that racist about
black women and him?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I mean, yeah, he did call him.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean when we were talking about the Dirty Debut Times,
he straight out called him that, right, absolutely, I got
trash stars for that at the very least. But I
think one of the most powerful things she said rob
was that there's a different response to when she talks
trash as a white girl to her black teammates, when
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they talk trash is viewed differently.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
And you remember a year ago that was the big
story when.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
When Angel Reese looked at Caitlin clarker was like pointing
to her finger like ring, you know, when you're gonna
beat off. Everybody acted like she was like it was
the worst thing in the world. But when Caitlyn Clark,
who if you watch Caitlyn Clark and obviously we're seeing
more of her this year than last year. First of all,
she was talking trash last year. But she has an
(41:15):
attitude on the court that don't quite honestly, a lot
of people don't like and you know, the ball but
even it ain't even just a cocky like and I'm
not critical because I actually like her as a player,
but I'm saying her attitude, it's not just a cocky
I'm all that I'm the best player out here type thing.
(41:35):
It's a it's a bit of an entitlement, like I
should call thousand stuff like. So they are completely right
to look at Angel Reese when she does something and
criticize it, but say nothing or even praise Caitlyn Clark
or any other white players that do it. That obviously
(41:57):
is racist and shouldn't be going on. So I thought
that was well said. I agree with you. I don't
know if it broke down to black and white. As
far as the dirty debuts, I don't think you can
say that.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
We don't unless it was Kentucky playing What school was
that in Texas?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Uh? The first is West.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Back in the day pat Rowley was on that Kentucky team, right,
the first one where all white team played the all
black teams.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Well, it wasn't. It was the first all black Star five.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I'm sorry to win the championship, but but yeah, it's
that part is the only part I'm not sure of.
And the writer apologized for using some of those terms,
and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I mean, like you said, I get, I mean, we
don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Obviously he's probably gonna say say the right thing, but
it's hard for me to believe he meant it that way.
Ye like dirty, you know, like he meant it in
a pornographic way.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:17):
What's up man?
Speaker 4 (01:18):
What's happening to mister Chris Boussard?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
How are you fantastic?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Fantastic? How was your holiday weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
Uh? It was good.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
I was recuperating now a little down, a little under
the weather. So I was trying to stay in, Chris
and get some rare rest. You know me, I'm usually
always on the move. But the how is Easter? Did
you guys go to church and then have a family
dinner or was that good?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I actually went to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Church over in your old stomping ground, Jamaica, queen make
a queen, my goodness.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
At the church I got married at.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
At the we called it the Triangle Church, Chris, the
Triangle you got married right there? That's literally three blocks
from my house. Wow, three blocks from my house.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah, So we went there for Sunday service.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It was great, in a full house, all of all
the sinners who hadn't been there all year.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
My mother in law goes there, that's her church, so
she did say it was way more.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
People than you you know that. So yeah, but it
was good. And then we did go out to eat
afterwards at Capitol Grill. That was delicious.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
It was good. And the bill Chris good, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
The bill was but that of course I got stuck
with the bill.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You got the bill. But Chris, it's so good, am
I right?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Like?
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Seriously, Capitol Grill so good? And I do want to
send one other thing. Today, Chris, our buddy David Justice,
uh joined me at my basetball writing class at USC today.
He was great, stayed the whole class, talked to him
about building relationships between players and writers and whatnot. It
(02:55):
was really good. So good day, yep, good all right.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
But let's introduce the Odd Couple crew. The super producer
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Speaker 4 (03:05):
Is Ryan Holiday today it is the company holiday.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
We get com time for this.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Oh I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Uh. And then also, of course you just heard Steve
the Seger who is on the updates USC. Chris is
in for DJ Alex Tyser. Wow, he got his own
Superman music. There you go, hero music. Yes, all right,
it's just the music.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Oh, that's what that is.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
And for people don't know USC, Chris was one of
my former students at USC.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
And look at it. Look at the stardom that he has.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Okay, yes, the social media our man Elijah Sepun all right, Rob, let's.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Get to it.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
I believe tonight and it may be eclipsed within the week,
but tonight is the biggest night in the history three
of women's college basketball. You have two tremendous I mean
tremendous matchups, and all the eyes of Basketball America are
(04:14):
going to be on these games. Didn't last year's championship
game LSU Iowa draw like ten thousand fans or viewers roughly?
This is ten million, I'm sorry ten million. This is
expected to eclipse that. And that, of course is Caitlin
Clark and the Iowa Hawkeyes the number one seed against LSU,
(04:36):
the defending champions and led by Angel Reese.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Three seed.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Yeah, it was able to be about they won by seventeen,
and so of course this year Iowa was the higher seed.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
They're the favorites.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
And then rob As if that's not enough, then the
nightcap you can obviously the traditional power led by Paige
Becker's one of the best players against USC against USC
and Juju Watkins, the best freshman in the country for sure.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Who's already on pace for people don't know uh to
be the all time leading scorer. If christ she plays
her four years and you know, a hurt or anything,
She's already done more her rookie year than Caitlyn, which
is incredible when you think about that.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
So Rob, I, do you agree with me that this
is the biggest night in women's college basketball.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Yes, because this is Caitlyn. She could punch your ticket
not only to.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
The championship right final four, but to uh to the
NBA too.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Oh, I'm sorry, that's just go ahead.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Let's have a serious ca Okay, No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
All right, So let's no, it's thank you. No, it's
a big night. I mean it's a big night.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
And and Caitlyn actually has to win.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
But you're saying this is a must win for her,
must win.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
And I say it from the standpoint of because that will.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Be the dart, the demerit, the.
Speaker 5 (06:10):
Thing that they'll hold against her like you would Great.
You put up all these numbers, couldn't win, couldn't win.
And I think that when you talk about all time
great and Chris, I bring it up all the time,
if you don't win, it's hard for somebody to call
you the all time the greatest of all time. It
(06:31):
just is I don't think it sounds right or feels
right if you haven't won something. And I think she
needs to win a national championship, I do.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
I totally disagree.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Now you may I what is a good point is,
do you have to win something to be because we're
talking about her, we're talking about is she the greatest
college player ever? That's what you're talking about. Yeah, that's
what I'm Cheryl Miller. She won a couple, right, And
you say I would think my mind.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Goes to Cheryl Miller when I think of the greatest
eff I'm just.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Saying, like, if the people wanted to make an argument
for her, Chris, it's almost impossible to make that argument
if you don't win.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
That's here's why I and these guys aren't considered ghosts
because I don't think she has to win. I think
talent wise, LSU, which obviously is the defending champion, they
have more.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Talent team wide.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Also, Rob, and one of the interesting things about Caitlin
Clark in this run is that she has been compared
two men, which we've never seen with college women's college basketball,
whether it's ice Cube one asking her or given offering
five million dollars for her.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
To play in the Big Three.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
You saying you think she could play in the NBA,
as ridiculous as it might be, you said it. You
you know you believe it, I guess. But also Rob,
when she broke the scoring record. People threw in, well,
she's breaking pistol peach record for all time leads scorer.
We've never compared women's sports to the men's records like that,
(08:23):
so that's one of the interesting things that she's being
compared to men.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
But but I think, but I think Chris also though,
what woman broke a man's broke the all time scoring
record in college that they would even compare.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I'm sure there might be other right about the assister,
I don't know, but the assist record, the rebound record,
like I don't say it's I don't I don't even
understand why they did that because I bet she's not
the n ai A.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Is she the n ai A scoring champion?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, but they don't even count that. Remember they feel
college basket. No, I know, but they don't. You mean,
what about Division two? Division three?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
I'm just saying, do you remember that guy from Detroit
who played six years was gonna break pistol peats.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
He came up short. Do you remember that?
Speaker 5 (09:03):
And they were they were debating whether or not that
they were even gonna count he played six years and
he wound up having a terrible night and falling short.
But people were saying he going to take that record
from Pistol Pete and he played for six years and
all the other stuff. I mean, I'm just saying there
was questions about it because of it. But I don't
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remember of a woman ever having a all time record
and anything. And you know, I mean, I don't know
some of the crossovers sports tennis, some of the track
and field, like a number of records you brought like.
I mean, I'm sure there are some things that women
have in their sport, have won more than men or
accumulated more than men, but.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
We've never compared it like that. I make that point
for this reason.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Rob There are plenty of all time great not only
NBA players, but college players that played three and four
years that.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Never won championships.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Heck, Tim Duncan, Shaquille O'Neill, David Robinson, none of them
even reached the final four. Yeah, but it against them. No,
I'm not holding again, Larry Bird. No, no, no, no, we didn't
win championship.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about I'm not
talking about just in general. But if you want to
put her up there and call her the greatest woman's college.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Who's saying that.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
I'm just saying, if that's that's this must.
Speaker 5 (10:33):
If that's your argument for her, because she's the all
time leading scorer, that means nothing.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Nobody thought Pistol Pete was the best. Gut.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
And if she were to win this year, say that
she beats them, she wins. They're there the favorites, I know, but.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Really gained something she will gain.
Speaker 5 (10:49):
And if they win a national championship coming off the
year she has, you can make a case for her.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
It's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Absolutely, That's all I'm saying, is I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
If you're talking strictly go I'm not talking strictly though, Okay,
you mean, I'm talking about just with the hype that
she's gotten, you know, the publicity, the fans, the viewership again,
the comparisons to men, all of that, does she need
to win? And I would say no, because we've seen
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men get that type of hype and they have it
won and no one telled it against them. That's my
That's why I say I'm not gonna hold her to
a higher standard than Tim Duncan.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah, but the difference between her and Tim Duncan is
where she is in her place in college basketball. Tim
Duncan was never in that space. And that's the difference.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Chris.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
He was the number one picky buddy, but he wasn't where.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
It wasn't only people men that have there's only a
handful that have been like I know a herd. Bird
probably didn't get.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Quite as nuha smaller at Indiana State. If he was
at Indiana, Chris, it probably would be different.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
And the other thing is Bird and.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Magic and the greatest college basketball game ever and Bird loss.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Magic and Greg Kelser they wanted for Michigan State, and
I don't think that people held it against because it
was a smaller school for Bird and he's the one
of them single hand put them.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
But as Caitlyn Clark put them out there, it's very similar. Now,
Angel Reach is not comparable as great as she is
to Magic Magic.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
No, no, no, it's not the same.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The talent discrepancy between LSU roster I believe and iowas roster.
It is similar to Bird in that they've got one
transcendent star who's kind of carrying a team. And look,
I always had a pretty good program before Caitlyn Clark
got there.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They weren't.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
They weren't like Indiana State or anything. They were they
were a good, really good program. But not a Yukon
or you know, Tennessee or LA you are a Baylor
or something like that.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And the number for that is still mind boggling, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
That is the whole different.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
It's a different I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
But the TV channels, right, and like one and three
households had that game on.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
I mean and back then when.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
You said because it was only three rights, it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
It wasn't five hundred channels with four hundred with nothing
on them, which is the worst.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Right.
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Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider will join us to talk
NBA action. And speaking of action, Rob, it's not it
at thirty nine between IOWA and LSU.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
We got a ball game. We got a good ball game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
We have a ballgame. Rob. It's living up to it
for sure.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Somebody their heartbroken.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, let's go to the men's tournament and we
have I've talked about and I.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Think you've agreed with me.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
But you know how I've been more excited about the
women's tournament than the men's tournament.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It didn't really play out that way initially, you know,
because first rounds and the women's aren't as many upsets
and you know all that, but at this point, Rob,
it is I mean, like, I'm more excited about these
two games tonight than I've been about any of the
two games, you know, a couple of games in the
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men's tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
And the interesting thing.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
For the women, Rob, is that every pretty much every
major storyline that was huge going into the tournament.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Has it's still alive.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
LSU is an intriguing team as the defending champions. Iowall
obviously with Caitlyn Clark, usc with the great rookie or
freshman Juju Watkins, Connecticut with Paige Becker's South Carolina just
a fantastic team. Like Rob, all of those storylines are
still alive. You rarely would get that many in the
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men's tournament that's still alive, and so props to the women.
It's gonna be interesting to see what the ratings are
on this. But but they're gonna be huge, I'm sure.
But Rob, there are some interesting and really compelling things
going on in the men's tournament. First of all, you've
got yukon the number one seed overall and Rob, they.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Are just running through folks.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
They've now won, including last year when they won the championship. Rob,
they have now won ten straight games in the tournament.
Incredible by double figures. That's just has that ever been
done before? Yeah, they're the Ryan if you want to
check it out, but I believe there are four or
three other teams that have similar streaks.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Uh, and so see if you can look that up Ryan.
But yeah, they're rolling.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
Okay, so this is it's not unprecedented, right, No, I
don't believe so.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
But then there is also Rob.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I mean we mentioned n C State with their Cinderella
run as the eleven seed, but also Rob zach Edy
all right, now he's the seventh fourth center from Purdue
seven to four. All right, he's the Nate Smith Player
of the Year, the Wooden Award Player of the Year,
consensus All American Rob. This is no overstatement. He is
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putting up numbers that we haven't seen in fifty plus years.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And here here are a couple of them.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Through the first two rounds of the tournament, when he
had fifty three points and thirty five rebounds on sixty
eight percent shooting in the first two games. No one
had done that, basically fifty thirty five on sixty five
percent shooting since lou Al Sender obviously Kareem Abdul Jabbard
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now but lou Al Sender.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
In nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Rob also his last game when they won victory over Tennessee,
he had forty points and sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Rebounds Rob on sixty two percent shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
The only two other players to go forty fifteen on
sixty percent or better were Bill Bradley we have them
five yep, we had him on the show.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
And Elvin Hayes also in nineteen sixty eight. So think
about this.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
So Zach Edy is putting up astronomical numbers, and what
I want to ask you, Rob, is this why do
you think?
Speaker 3 (19:32):
And then you conn as well? You got Yukon NC State.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Is Cinderella and Zach Edy putting up these historic numbers?
Why do you think these stories haven't captivated us like
the women have, or even just independent of the women,
why haven't they captivated?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
I don't know that Zach Edy is interesting. I didn't
know his mother was six foot three Chris mom? How
tall his dad?
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Probley was really tall to.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
His mom though, a mother six foot three is a
is a big woman, right. And his mother was born
to Chinese immigrants. I was just, you know, trying to
find out like his background. I know he's born in Toronto.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
His dad's his dad is five Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
According according to this website, it says that's crazy. It
says he's just being five eight. He intentially stayed away
from a basketball court and and and com was six
to three. Dad was fine.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
And here's the other thing that Edie, which is with
his size is crazy. He played hockey and baseball, which
I understand hockey growing up in Toronto, Chris, Like in Canada,
everybody plays hockey if you if you grow up there, right,
everybody like you play little league baseball, but the but
the baseball at that height is kind of weird, right,
(20:55):
I understand basketball. He played hockey and baseball as long
as well as a But to answer your question, I
would those just interesting tidbits. I don't know if the
Yukon thing is it's a different team, Chris, right, like
they it's four different players as far as stars, right,
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they're four.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Different transfer portal and just some guys you know, moved
on to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
And I don't know if I don't know what like it's.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
It is weird because it's not often that you have
a team with a chance to win back to back.
We talked about Florida being the last one, right, Chris,
uh to win back to back?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
I don't know if Edie doesn't get the juice that
he should. Is it because he's not from this country?
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Is it because is it because we already got the
Wimby fever?
Speaker 4 (21:51):
And Okay, here's another really tall guy.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know, like he plays nothing like Wimby though, No, no, no,
he's all in the inside, all right.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
But I'm just saying, like, just here's another Uh. I
don't want to say what I wanted to say. But
another guy, abnormal, overly tall guy. I don't know if
people can't latch onto him or relate to him. Where Wimby,
I think Chris there's more of a chance because Winby,
as you talked about, is a different type of player,
can shoot handle the basketball. Most people can't imagine doing
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what Edie's doing, just a big guy at the rim.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I think it's this and let me know what you
think can help because you're grasping.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't be because I don't know right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I think it's simple rap.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I think, with all due respect to these players who
are great for what they are.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Let me hear you got something big coming out of
your mouth.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
I think it's that people know they're not that great
like you.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Mean, and they've tried.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
No.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
They know that the best twenty year olds, the best
twenty one year olds are all in the NBA. They
know that Zach Edy is not going to be much
of a player in the NBA. I don't believe so
in most I mean, I've seen a few mock drafts
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now with him low lottery.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Some have low first round, some second round.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't think he's gonna be great Lucas Garza was similar.
Now he wasn't seven four, he was six to eleven
at Iowa, but a twenty four point nine rebound guy
Player of the year.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
All that Rob he got.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Drafted in the second round, is roding the bench from Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And I think, and here's why I compare it to Rob.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
For years now, the last five six years, seven years,
they've been trying and we're trying again with the XFL,
trying to get spring football.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Off the ground right. But it hasn't worked yet.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And I think one of the challenges they have because
I think the games are compelling.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
They're great, very good players.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
They're I mean, it's interesting, are they better than did
Division one college because all of them played at that level.
They just didn't make it to the NFL. But they're good.
Whether they're better than D one or not, they're very
good players. It's comparable to D one. But we're used
we want to watch the NFL, and when our minds
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tell us you're not the NFL and you're not going
to the NFL, we're not interested. Now we're interested in
college football because those guys, we know they're the next
group that's going to the NFL and then when college
basketball had the next group that was going to the NBA, Hey,
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we were all into it. Now, I think, and I'm
just throwing this out there. I mean, subconsciously we know.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
They're okay, but in the moment of watching college basketball
and what it is, it's still because of the tournament.
We've talked about it before, Chris, college basketball to me
has always been about the format anyway, mostly I get
it that years ago. But this is not a new
phenomenon what you're talking about. This has been going on
for a long time. I mean, this has been Gods
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have been coming out of college basketball for years.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
This isn't I think the first year that we have players.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Guys, if you stayed in the NBA in college for
three or four years, automatically thought they weren't that good.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
But this has been going on for a minute. Well,
I think, like, let's look at it. Look at the women.
Caitlin Clark, we know she is for college aged players,
there's nothing better than her andju and Paige Becker's and
Angel Reached.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
They're the best.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Are the men playing in college they aren't the best
at that age.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
And again, I just think people look at Zach Edi and.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
They're thinking, man, dude, he's not gonna be doing much
in the NBA. And then the young freshmen who are
NBA talents, you just don't. We don't know him as well.
You know, we don't know the names as much. You know,
they're only there for one year and things like that.
So I think that that whether subconsciously or consciously, Rob,
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I just think we know it's subpar basketball.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
It's not what we were used to seeing. Rob.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
With all due respect to Yukon, which is having a
phenomenal run, they would get bombed by the champions twenty
years ago. They would get bombed by the Fab five.
And I know the Fab five, Rob, they were free
and then sophomores they were behind these dudes.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
So so going forward, you considered then you must think
that this is where it's gonna head, and it and
it continues to head that way, like like is it
you know what I mean? Like, is there not gonna
be somebody Christian? Here's the only pushback happening.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
There's a freshman that that that that we all know
is going to the NBA. You know, it's a big
time lottery pick. That was my next dominant. Yeah, yeah,
and that's that can happen, right because they have to
go to college for one year, or they don't have
to they can go to but yeah, okay, it can
so that that would change the dynamics of college if
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you're watching, and I'm not saying when we watched, I
remember Carmelo Anthony's tournament run that fantastic, Like that was his.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Rookie right his freshman year. Jim Beyheim wouldn't have a championship,
Chris without him. I mean, he was fantastic. He wouldn't
you think about that? Coaching fifty some odd years tied up,
he definitely would not.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
But yeah, I mean a group of freshmen, like if
Kyle gets another group of strong freshmen and they defy
the odds and be some of these older teams. Sure,
if a freshman by himself kind of leads you know,
another a group of teammates deep into the tournaments of
the final four of the championship. Sure, but barring something
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like that, Notice, though, Rob, those are guys we're describing
that will be in the NBA and be high draft picks.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
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Robbers we said it.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
It's a barn burner out here between LSU and IOWA.
It is living up to the hype.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Rob. Caitlyn Clark is putting on a show for the
ages with thirty four points eight assists. And it's a
close game. Yeah, seventy five sixty seven. Iowa was up
with seven a little over seven minutes to play, so
it looks like it's gonna go down to the wire.
At least it's relatively close, So about all you could
(29:33):
ask for.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Rob. It's a huge night.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
These ratings will probably be historic, and it's living up
to it, so good.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Good for the women.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
Speaking of the women, Rob and women's basketball and one
of the coaches in this game, Kim Mulki with LSU.
There was an article in the La Times that was
talking about this was in their last game against UCLA,
and it was written before that game. But the title
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of it says, U C L A. LSU is America
sweethearts versus its back versus its basketball villains. And the
sweethearts in this case are U C l A. The
basketball villains he's referring to are the LSU Tigers. Is
written by Ben boltch Rob.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Do you know him?
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
I do not know him, okay, I the LA Times, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And Kim Maulke.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
The original story came out and the LSU coach, Kim
Maulky complained about it and called it sexist. She went
on a rant that we'll hear in a moment. But
her real problem with it, Rob, and the reason she
called it sexist was because they called the LSU players
(30:59):
dirty debuts.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Times.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
Bolt said, is like the dirty debutants against uh. He said,
he called them villains and dirty debutantes. He referred to
the UCLA players as milk and cookies, but referred to
the La Times or I'm sorry, the LSU players dirty debutantes. Now,
(31:22):
when I first heard and you heard some of you
may have been listening. You've heard little excerpts from Doug
Gottlieve talking about it, and Doug said he just thought
dirty Debutantes was kind of a clever turn of phrase,
you know phrase.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
And I kind of I didn't think.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I mean, I thought it was okay, dirty debutantes, all right,
there a little shot, but okay, like villains. But then
when you go and Kim balk Even said, rob, when
you google it, she said, google it and see what
comes up.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
And I googled just dirty debutantes.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
And pornography like sites, you know, por in sites and stuff.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Aw is that right?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Links? Yeah, links to poor in sites come up.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
So that is why, because I was like, what she
said is sexist?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
What exactly is she talking about?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
But then when you see that, you'll kind of know,
here's malky and then you let us know what you think.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
Right, I'm not going to let you attack young people.
And there were some things in this commentary guys that
you should be offended by as women. It was so
sexist and they don't even know it. It was good
versus evil in that game. Today, evil called us dirty debutants.
(32:42):
Take your phone out right now and google dirty debutants
and tell me what it says. Dirty debutants? Are you
kidding me.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yeah again.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
When I first heard her, I was like, I didn't
you know, I sexist?
Speaker 4 (33:01):
What does he mean?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What does she mean?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
But then when you you google it, which I'm sure
you have by now, Rob, you.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
See what so what do you I was saving it
for later to night what you know?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
But I get it that like I get what she's saying.
I get you know. I mean you can't And I
don't know if bolch Miant it that way, Like I
said that, I didn't even think of it that way.
I thought, Okay, he's calling them villains. Okay, maybe that
maybe that's going a little too far, like you know,
but Rob, and I want to ask you this as
(33:40):
a columnist, so first I want to hear your thoughts
on you But as a columnist, you know this a
lot of times and the.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
La Times obviously U c l A Right is right
there in town.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
A lot of times a local columnists will kind of
take that, you know, approach like we're you know, he'll do,
you know, write some little insults about you know, the
other team and.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
All that we've seen that Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:10):
And all the time, Like I can always remember, like
Woody Page writing columns ripping Detroit and hockey town for
for the Avalanche against you know what I mean, like
like making a thing about the Wings and the Avalanche
and down in Detroit and all the people and all
the stuff that goes on, you know what I mean,
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Like and it's kind of.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Just understood that, you know, we're going after each other
like that. And and my initial thought, Rob was, well,
this is one of the things that comes along with
the popular rising of the women's game like men's players.
Speaker 3 (34:49):
And I get college is a little different, and that's
that's that's the only thing college.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
That's the only thing, Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
I'm going to say, as a guy who wrote a
column you know, for a long time, I do look
at college is a little different. I try not to
be as you know, because they're not professional. So I
was always conscious of that. I'm not saying that. I
just say that I didn't criticized, you know what I mean, Like,
you know, me and Tom Izzo has a history that's
(35:16):
college basketball, right, but he's a coach to right, right.
But I'm just saying talking about the kids in the
program and not winning different big games and all that,
but not like taking out Hey, yeah, he tried I'm
not now that I probably I don't remember ever writing
a college kid in that vein where I could do
(35:39):
it for appro so.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
That's a little different.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
But I but I this is tough because I understand
and why she feels that way, and it is Chris.
I think it does come with the brighter light. Yep,
the brighter light. And now even enough the LA Times,
the right columns, you know what I mean. And even
(36:02):
in this vein they did reword it, you know.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
They edited it. They got dirty debuties.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I mean, they didn't rewrite the column.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
They just thought that that would changed some of the
word and took that out. I don't I mean, that
takes it to another level. Obviously, you don't want any women.
You shouldn't be comparing you like that, you know, but
it's particularly college kids or high school girls or something
like that. But that and I don't know that he
(36:33):
I mean again, did he mean it that way?
Speaker 5 (36:36):
Rob?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I don't know, because I didn't. That was not pornography,
was not.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
With I don't think that that again, that's trying to
turn a phrase, play on words, you know what I mean.
Debutantes we know that those are women at a ball,
right or like high.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
Yeah, I mean, so I do get that.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Uh, And I doubt that he meant it in a
pornography or pornographic Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Now, one of the and we talked about it earlier.
The player for LSU who started out the game guarding uh,
Caitlyn Clark, she talked about it, and, Uh, she's the
only white player that plays for ls She might there
might be another one on the team, but she's the
(37:23):
only when I see out there actually getting some time,
she said. She thought, even though you know, she's obviously
white and she's on the team, she felt like it
was a shot at her black teammates.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
What is her name, Ryan what, I'm trying to find it? Yeah,
van Lift her first name. What's her first name, Helen?
So she thought it was Hailey van Lyft. So she
thought it was racist. Here here's sounded her.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
We do have a lot of black women on this team.
We do have a lot of people that are from
different areas and unfortunate. You know that that bias does
exist still today and a lot of the people that
are making those comments are being racist towards my teammates.
And you know, I'm in a unique situation where I
(38:14):
see it with myself. You know, I'll talk trash and
I'll get a different reaction than if Angel talks trash,
and so it's really up to me to you know,
it's not up to me, but I have a duty
to my teammates to have their back. And obviously, you know,
some of the words that we're using that article were
very sad and upsetting, and you know, I didn't really
(38:37):
I actually didn't want us to to read that article
before the game because hearing stuff like that, it's it's
not right, and it's not that type of description of
us isn't always motivating. I think, you know, calling us
basically the dirty debutantes like that's that's that has nothing
(39:00):
to do with sports, and that is not that's not motivating.
And so I think I wish we hadn't read that
because I think that that can crush your soul a
little bit that someone would ever say that about us
that doesn't know us. But again, you know, obviously, in
my opinion, I know for a fact that people see
us differently because we do have a lot of black
(39:21):
women on our team who have an attitude and like
to talk trash, and you know, people feel a way
about it. But at the end of the day, I'm
rocking with them because they don't let that change who
they are.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I thought that was well said by her.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
And I don't know the Dirty Debutantes had anything to
do with black women though.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Well that right, I agree with that, Like I don't
even know.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean, she's obviously on the team and they
included her. It could be Rob but you can't say
it for sure. I just don't know he has black play.
I think they got about five or six black girls
on their team, so you know, to say they have
more white girls, but it's not it's not totally one.
This totally black, totally white. So I agree with that.
(40:03):
I think the most powerful.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Thing can I say the difference Chris real quick? And
you'll remember this when Imus wind up his radio show
got blown up with the Rutgers girls. You remember, and
I'm not going to repeat it, right, you remember that
that was different. Don't you think that that racist about
black women and him?
Speaker 3 (40:24):
I mean, yeah, he did call him.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
I mean when we were talking about the Dirty Debut Times,
he straight out called him that, right, absolutely, I got
trash stars for that at the very least. But I
think one of the most powerful things she said rob
was that there's a different response to when she talks
trash as a white girl to her black teammates, when
(40:48):
they talk trash is viewed differently.
Speaker 3 (40:50):
And you remember a year ago that was the big
story when.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
When Angel Reese looked at Caitlin clarker was like pointing
to her finger like ring, you know, when you're gonna
beat off. Everybody acted like she was like it was
the worst thing in the world. But when Caitlyn Clark,
who if you watch Caitlyn Clark and obviously we're seeing
more of her this year than last year. First of all,
she was talking trash last year. But she has an
(41:15):
attitude on the court that don't quite honestly, a lot
of people don't like and you know, the ball but
even it ain't even just a cocky like and I'm
not critical because I actually like her as a player,
but I'm saying her attitude, it's not just a cocky
I'm all that I'm the best player out here type thing.
(41:35):
It's a it's a bit of an entitlement, like I
should call thousand stuff like. So they are completely right
to look at Angel Reese when she does something and
criticize it, but say nothing or even praise Caitlyn Clark
or any other white players that do it. That obviously
(41:57):
is racist and shouldn't be going on. So I thought
that was well said. I agree with you. I don't
know if it broke down to black and white. As
far as the dirty debuts, I don't think you can
say that.
Speaker 4 (42:06):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
We don't unless it was Kentucky playing What school was
that in Texas?
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Chris?
Speaker 3 (42:12):
Uh? The first is West.
Speaker 5 (42:15):
Back in the day pat Rowley was on that Kentucky team, right,
the first one where all white team played the all
black teams.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Well, it wasn't. It was the first all black Star five.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I'm sorry to win the championship, but but yeah, it's
that part is the only part I'm not sure of.
And the writer apologized for using some of those terms,
and that's fine.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
I mean, like you said, I get, I mean, we
don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
Obviously he's probably gonna say say the right thing, but
it's hard for me to believe he meant it that way.
Ye like dirty, you know, like he meant it in
a pornographic way.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
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