July 12, 2024 • 44 mins
Rob Parker & Martin Weiss talk shop on Jalen Brunson's recent contract extension. Plus, Rob and Martin also discuss Jaylen Brown getting snubbed in the Team USA Olympic selection, wondering whether Davante Adams should get traded, and more!!
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Speaker 3 (02:00):
So, mister Martin Weiss, how are you doing? Living the dream?
How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I am doing just fine. We got a great show,
a lot of stuff to talk about on this funky
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Speaker 3 (02:24):
Ron.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know I worked all weeks. I'm taking days off
now are you next week? Well, when I'm at the
All Star Game, take those days.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What days are those? Monday and Tuesday? Perfect? Those days? Okay, wow,
those days I'm going to be here. That's right, I
would love it Tuesday. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Respect is our producer in for Rob g Hey everybody.
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Speaker 3 (02:54):
He's in for Elijah. So do you know what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It means that it's the summertime and everybody's taking vacation,
and everybody's off except for me, and except for Martin,
and even when I'm off, I'm working. But it's all good.
We're great on this Friday to have you along, Martin,
and so much to talk about, and let's start here.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's do it. NBA, you got that you want to?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you read me the deal? The horrendous deal that
Jalen Brunson just took from the New York Next.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Horrendous is one way to put it. I don't think
that was in the breakdown of the news. I don't
think WoDES tweeted that it was horrendous, But it's said well.
Adrian Waldrianowski from ESPN says, in a largely unprecedented financial
concession that give the flexibility to a contender, What was that?
What did I call it? You said it was horrendous,
(03:45):
all right, That's what he said in five words. I
said it in one horrendous New York Knicks star Jalen
Brunston has agreed to way four year, one hundred and
fifty six point five million dollar extension to his agent,
Sam Rose of CIA tells ESPN one hundred and third
teen million less guaranteed than he's eligible to shive next year.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The deal is a three year plus one. A deal
is a three year plus one with the player option
in year four.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, Martin Weiss, I've been covering sports for almost forty years,
and I can't figure out players who take less money
than they were entitled to. It's dumb, It's absurd. Do
you know how much James Dolan, who owns the Knicks,
is worth billions? Two billion dollars two billion dollars with
(04:36):
a B and they're helping the Knicks do what? Do? What?
Win a championship? Is that what you're doing by taking
less money. There's a chance that Jalen bro I know,
nobody wants to believe it. There's a chance he could
be hurt right and never get another deal. There is
a real possibility. Sure, Isaiah Thomas, who was with the Celtics,
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do you remember that rush back to play in the
playoffs for them?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Guess what happened? Martin? He got hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
He was in It was in in the MVP of
voting that year, got hurt, never got paid. Still been
trying to get back in the NBA for the last
number of years. And all I'm saying is, come on, guys,
stop doing this. Let the teams do their jobs. Get
what you're entitled to. I don't see the Nicks saying,
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because Jalen Brunts is taking less money and leaving one
hundred and thirteen million on the table, we're gonna reduce price.
Taking prices at Madison Square Gardens. French fries aren't gonna
cost fourteen dollars anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Martin, We're gonna drop them the seven.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Because now he gave a break to the Knicks so
that they have flexibility. All right, Patrick Mahomes did that.
Guess what did that keep Tyreek Hill there and and
some of his pieces.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now they won in spite of it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But they told Patrick Mahomes that if he did that,
they be able to keep the team together. Well, the
first thing they did got rid of Tyreek Kill. So
when they tell you that they're going this is gonna
help the team flexibility, We're gonna go get other players.
Stop the Tom Brady story with the New England Patriots,
it's a fraudulent story. First of all, his wife made
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more money than Tom Brady. Number two, the Patriots never
took that extra money. Martin named the big free agent
receivers that they got Tom Brady. Only ever talk about
is they got Tom Brady through the guys who worked
at Dunkin Donuts because they never got anybody. Ask all
the defensive players at the Patriots, like Ty Law and
some of those guys who never got paid. They used
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up their ability when they were young and never got
their long term contract. And then that story on ESPN
had the nerve to say, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady and
Derek Jeter, you know, like a formula related their contract
so that the team it could do stuff did the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
There's no salary cap.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
There, hoseball, That makes no How is Derek Jeter's name
in that story?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Can you stop it? So all I'm saying is this
is a mistake. This is dumb. This makes no sense
to me. Players should get what the market value is,
stop trying to save teams money.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So I understand your point, but the idea that he's
saving teams saving his team money. I think is something
that we're missing here, because what he did do is
he set himself up now over the next three seasons,
he will be a ten year NBA VET. After those
next three seasons, he he will not be opting in
to year four of this contract, right, he will be
opting out and has a potential to be the first
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million dollar a game player in the NBA when the
TV rights kick into the salary cap and it goes
up literally forty million dollars between now and two years
from now.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That's what he ended up doing.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And in the meanwhile, he kept the team out of
the second out of the Aprons, so they're able to
still maneuver and sign another big man because we see
that he's got his all his college teammates that he
won championships with in Bridges, the Vincenzo uh and the
rest of the Villanova kids, Josh Hart than the rest
of those Villanova kids. So I get where you're saying that,
you know, is he taking some big sacrifice. Absolutely for
(08:21):
I mean forty million dollars over the next three years,
that's nothing to shake a stick at, right, But if
he has the opportunity to make all that back and
more in three seasons. And I get what you're saying
about the organization. He could get hurt, he could do
Isaiah Thomas. Well, the dirty secret out loud is or
the quiet part oullowed is. Isaiah Thomas was never going
to get a max contract from the Boston.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But he never got a contract because what I'm saying
by trying to help the organization.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, by coming back too early from the he should
have just like I hate.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The well, but he was trying to help. He's trying
to help the organization. Point I try to.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I don't mean to be smirch a guy for playing
through injury, right, I commend that, But they deal with that.
Isaiah Thomas was going to sign the max contract at
the time. What I said, that's not what I That's
what I'm saying. He was never going to get that
max contract.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
About max contract, it's about helping, trying to help.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The team when you need to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Here's the other part, all right with that, Jalen Brunson,
what story are they talking about? Jalen Brunson, Tom Brady,
Derek Jeter, and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
How does he fit into that story? Martin he doesn't.
He doesn't fit in.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He's not even on that level with those guys.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Doesn't make any sense for a guy like now when
the Knicks continue to have success behind this roster, because
I think this roster is a top three roster in
the East, and provided that everybody stays healthy, which is
a big if, Provided everybody stays healthy, they should be
in competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs going forward. It
had been dark in New York for a while. I
think those lights are coming a little bit brighter. But
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in three years from now, Jalen Brunston has a not
not even just a fifty percent chance, a seventy five
eighty percent chance that he'll be making eighty one million
dollars a year, which would be the first million dollar
player just about in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, but if he took, if he took the money now,
he would get that money if he still let player.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
My thing is.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Even in the even in the case of sho Hail Tani,
it's deferred, right, but he took the seven hundred million,
but he didn't. He didn't go I'm gonna wait, wait
a minute, let me take three years with the dog
and I wait for the new baseball contract TV deal
to kick in or the new deal or to happen.
My point also is you think you know for sure,
(10:38):
go ask the San Diego Padres and some of these
other teams where Bally Sports is gone, belly up and
some of these other things that sign these lucrative TV
deals that no longer in place.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So you Amazon, If ESPN, Amazon and NBC go belly
up in the next three years, then you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Jalen Brunson made a terrible, terrible mistake. But my point
I'm not being on that you don't know that. It's
easy to say that, but you don't know that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And my point is why help an organization that can't
get out out of its own way. And just because
you save it money doesn't mean it's going to be
spent wisely or it's going to enhance you into winning anything.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You're not guaranteed anything.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I know that it's not cool to talk about the CBA,
but the reality of the situation is had he took
that contract, they wouldn't be able to do anything at all.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
His fault is that is that his fault on the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's the fault of the Players Association, for agreeing to
these ridiculous first and second aprons.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well they did that because the owners had them over
a barrel and the players weren't willing to fight.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
For It's a ridiculous thing. But Jalen brs players that
still have no salary cap. Jalen Bruston ain't got nothing
to do with that. He's just got to deal with
the rules of engagement that are set by were set
by Jalen Brown and Grant Williams and the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
When the owners start giving fans rebates and discounting food
and twenty dollars beers and all that talking about saving
the organizationation money and giving them.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Flex it's not about saving the organization.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It's about keeping the organization out of these very restrictive restrictions.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's not with the first and second APRIN. He's in tire,
but he's entire. I get that. No, I don't know,
Yes I do. I get that. There's no reason everybody
if they go into.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
The first and second APRIN and this is the team
that there will have, there will be no ability to
improve your team.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's the That's what the reality is that the Players Association.
It's not it's the Knicks. Now, what's that just? It is?
What are they supposed to not?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Can't the Knicks going to second aprin now owners worth
two billion?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He cares not about paying the tax, about the second April. No,
that's not what the whole set.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
The whole point of the aprons is to be to
take teams that want to just pay the tax and
punish them in other ways besides financial. That's why you
can't do sign of trades. That's why you can't pay.
That's why you can't do sign of trades. That's why
every trades make has to be dollar for dollars in
and out. But that's why your first round pick, the
maybe frozen and kicked to the back of the first round.
All of those things are not necessar sssarily financially related. Jave,
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don't look at absolutely pay the luxury tax. And if
we were still under the same CBA that we were
prior to now, then I would be agreeing with you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, but let me tell you what.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You got to stay out of these first second aprons
if you want to have any flexibility to build your team.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The Knicks, and that's the player's fault that but the
Knicks are in this situation because of what they've spent
and where they are, and they knew that they had
to sign Jalen Brunton. All I'm saying is they're fortunate
because if Jayleen Brunton took what he was deserved or
what he should be getting. Remember he came over for
Dallas for peanuts, and now all of a sudden he's
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in a conversation about about taking less now to help
the organization. Like Tom Brady, Derek Jeter and Patrick Mahonmes.
I'm not in I'm not having that conversation. That's not
what I'm talking That's why I don't give it good.
I don't care about Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady. That's
what they're talry about. That's what the story talks to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Talk to the guy and the story, because that's got
nothing to do with the first and second apron. There's
a hard cap in the NFL, and what the second
apron does that effectively acts as a hard cap in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's the player's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, but that's also you gotta be able to work
with inside that framework.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The Knicks agreed to that as well. That's why he took.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
That's why he took less money out on the back
side and take the rest.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
No, he did this salary cap.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The Knicks agreed to play under those rules, so they
need to be the ones that take that brunt. That
shouldn't be on Jalen Brunton to help them. That's my point.
The Knick sign that agreement as well, and they just.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
The Players Association and now Players Association should not have
agreed to this situation in the first day play.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But the owners this is the rules that they want
play under them. Knicks, don't ask Jalen Brunton to do that.
You play under them. Those are what you wanted.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Nobody would be crying in three years when he's an
eighty million dollar game player.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Eighty million dollars, Hold me in three years, let me
know how that turns out.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine,
nine six sixty sixty three sixty nine, Brunson takes less
money to help the Knicks out.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Where are you on this? I think is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think players should never, ever, ever, under any circumstance,
take less money than they're entitled to.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Period. Your job is not to help the front office.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Your job is to play basketball or play your game
and do the best you can.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
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Speaker 3 (15:29):
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Speaker 3 (17:22):
So that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Looking around Major League Baseball, Dodgers are still trailing the Tigers.
The Yankees are beating the O's and that's a good
matchup there, Oh's and Yankees. O's going to this series
up to games in the Al East. The HBCU Swingman
Classic is on MLB Network. That's happening today that game
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is about the kickoff. So a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
But let's talk how about the Tigers seven and three
in their last ten.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, and they were remember they want to verge. They
had lost like twelve out of sixteen. You remember that.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Of course I'd be I'm doing it every day to
the team.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Every day. It was am I right? It looked like
I was.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I remember thinking, is a j Hinchow they go to
you know what I mean, give them the ziggy because
it hain'd gotten bad.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
All it took for me was to go on sports
rap radio say I'm done with this team that was
seven and three runs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's usually what happens the announcers jinks.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But all right, let's talk about Jalen Brown from the
Boston Celtics, who, of course did not get the nod
when Kawhi Leonard bowed out of the team USA Basketball
and Jalen Brunson is convinced Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Show today, Jalen Brown is convinced that Nike has something
to do with it, and so we doubled down today
you got something.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, so he tweets at Nike, is this what we're
doing insinuating that Nike is in control of Team USA.
Then he doubled down with you know, the monocle emoji,
which I don't be fluent emoji, but apparently that is
the one when you're searching for a reason or an answer.
And then cam Newton asked him yesterday at the SP's
(19:08):
why he wasn't with Team USA, and he said, you know,
I don't have any comment on that. I'm with my
beautiful date. He was with the the Gondrews ex sister
who played just got Wigh from the Sky not too
long ago from the w NBA, who is a gorgeous woman.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So that was it. He's doing well for himself.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'd say yes in the woman department. But I think
he's a little the clump that he's not on the
Olympic time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I mean, he is upset, but I mean, you know,
you could be upset all you want about it, but
to me, you know, they made a change in the
way that they are valuing did the roster in Team USA.
It's not the same as it used to be in
the past, where you go and you're you get invited
to the tryout and then out of that tryout, the
best twelve players make it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It's people.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They give precedent and give priority to people who have
participated in Team USA in the in the past few years,
right at the different World Cups, and you know, summer
by summer, these teams are playing internationally. And that's why,
in my opinion, Derek White got the now because Jalen
Brown hasn't been on Team USA since twenty and nineteen.
While invited to the pool and all other stuff, he
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didn't participate since twenty and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I disagree. I'm with Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think that this has a lot to do with
his criticism of Nike, and Nike runs this whether people
want to believe it or not. I think all but
four players are Nike representatives. The other four do not
wear Nike, and we get it, and I think that
there's something to it. Because he's replaced. He would be
replacing Kawhi Leonard, who he could easily replace and be
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that kind of player.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
If there was a player like Derek White.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who does all the stuff that they're talking about they
want on the team and that was the guy that
went down, then Derek White would make total sense as
a replacement in this case. Jalen Brown just won the
NBA Championship with the Celtics, just one the finals MVP,
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and he doesn't have a right to turn it down
or be offered it. That That's where I have an issue, Like,
there's a lot of politics, Martin. And you got to
admit this, whether whether or not, I don't have any
evidence in front of me, but what you agree that
politics does play a role in sports and a lot
on a lot of levels.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Sure, And it's not politics in the traditional sense, the
politics of.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Dealing with people, you know what.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's what when we talk about the politics, not political parties.
And and and I think some of his criticism of
Nike and the stuff that they've done, and the tweets
and stuff that he's set put out and whatnot against Nike,
I do believe that, Uh, it's not the kind of
guy that maybe they want to have UH out there
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and put on that platform as a guy. And Chris
even talked about this the other day. He's always surprised
that he covers up the Nike swoosh Martin right on
his but he does still wear them. And I don't
know if that's just comfort or feeling comfortable in them,
you know what I mean, or something like that, where
it's just not another sneaker that he can wear. But
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if I'm Nike, I'm definitely not trying to enhance anybody
who is covering up the Nike swish.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I mean, but there are several non Nike.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
There's only set there's out of the twelve players on
the team, bam Adebayo, Devin Booker, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Halliburton,
Lebron James, and Tatum are Nike athletes, so over half
of the team, but just by one. Right, So there's
six other athletes on the team that aren't Nikes. Two
of them are starters and Embiid. Embiid his under armorer,
steps under armor. Anthony Edwards's Adidas. He just signed a
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massive Adidas deal to be the face of that basketball operation.
So I think the Nike angle, well, I mean, it's
a little bit overblown in my opinion. I think the
roster was flawed in the first place. I don't know
what Kawhi was ever doing there. And when I think
when you watched.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The if Kawhi was held then that roster would have
still he would have been on that roster and they
still would have a chance to win, whether whether it's
Kawhi or not.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So dek is not going to be the reason why
they win or lose. But you're right with that, Let's
be clear.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Let me ask you that you guys, they could have
just sent Kawhi home and brought nobody back and they're
still going.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So what's the difference between Derek White on that team
and and and rewarding Jalen Brown, who is the Finals
MVP and just won a championship.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What is the difference.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The difference is Derek White played for Team USA in
the last three years.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
That's the difference. That could be the reason why you
don't have to bring him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You could Jalen Jaylen why because he played for Jalen
Brown just elevated everything about him by winning the Finals MVP.
Those are the players you usually want to reward and celebrate.
The reason Kawhi was on it is because Kawhi had
never played for Team USA and they wanted to give
Kawhi that opportunity. That's all I'm saying. Derek White is
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not going to be the reason for anything. So what
is the difference whether you're Brown, Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Neither would Jalen Brown. That's why.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Of course, if you're Nike, a guy who's covering up
your swash, that's the guy you want to bring in. No,
I don't think so. I think you're downplaying the importance
and the cloud that Nike has. I think Nike has
way more clout than under Armour and Adidas and those
those companies.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Well, they didn't use none of that cloud to keep
those guys off the team.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They can't keep everybody off, now, let's be realistic. So
they just you know, Taylor Brown, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, he's the one tweeting and ripping on Nike. Give
me the other quotes from Steph ripping on Nike?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Do you have them? No? They don't have them. Yeah,
they don't. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I mean, none of the other guys are ripping on Nike.
You But I don't think that Yl Brown is not
on the US team.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't. I don't think that. I think that if
Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So, what is the reason if Derek White doesn't matter
if they're gonna win or lose.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm asking you, Martin, what you're saying doesn't make.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Sense because your argument is he just won the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You know what the reward for that is the ring.
He's one of these.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Comments finals, every ring. That's the reward for that. That's
the reward for that, the finals MVP. It's the same
argument as to why Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees are
on the women's team because they weren't practicing with the
women's team, they didn't participate with the women's team in
past summers.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's you know, I get it. You know, it fits
a little tin hat theory to be like.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When was this is Kawhi's first go first, So what's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't even know why took the first part.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I don't I wouldn't have brought him because they were
trying to celebrate Kawhi for what a great player he's
been in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He won two finals m vps and two championship.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think that's a dumb reason to build an Olympic team.
How somebody good, somebody is in the NBA. But he
ordered for that. But he was already rewards for how
good you are in the NBA player called championships.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's how the reward for how good you are in
the NBA. Derek White makes no difference. This is what
they call a slight. It was a slight of Jalen Brown.
As I said the other day, he was pimp slapped
by the team USA. That's what it is. There's no
reason this guy shouldn't be on the team. One of
the best play he makes seventy million dollars, he makes
(26:07):
seventy seven zero. He's considered one of the best players
in the league. And they got a spot open because
Kawhi can't make it. Let's go get a reserve Derek White.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Let's go put him on Derek Olympet in a reserve
since since basically since he got drafted. But that's neither
here nor there. Derek White's a better fit for this team.
Derek White's not gonna play a ton of minutes when
things get down to it, but if he did, the
only guard out there that's a really great defender besides
Anthony Edwards, I mean Drew Holliday in the starting lineup
and Anthony Edwards are the.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Two can Jalen Brown defend? Are the They are the
two guard defenders.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
When you look at these teams, who's gonna stay in
front of Jaal Murray. Would you like Jalen Brown to
do that or Derek White to do that? Because Derek
White was the guy who was staying in front of
Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Is Derek White going to be the reason you win?
Jalen Brown wasn't gonna be the reason they want. Kawhile
wasn't gonna be the reason.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's the case.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So you did celebrate the nothing to do with anything
that it does you should give you to celebrate the
player that's had a higher standing in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
That's a you got rewards for that, and he got
two on it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right Celtics on there, right on the team. How many
Celtics are there? They are three now, and and and
and and and Jalen Brown isn't one of them.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That's that's a slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Look, he can feel like it's a slap in the
face all the odds, but it's a logical reasoning.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It's fun to be like, oh, it's.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
All Nankees for because he does the covers of Miss Swoonster,
He's got this doing this.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Don that thought, Well, you don't think that factors in
at all. I'm just asking you if you own the business.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
If you own the business and the guy that you
have a chance to either put on a team or
not put on the team is ripping your company, don't
tell me that that wouldn't factor in whether or not
you would have that guy on the team with us. A.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's not but that's what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
No, I'm MASKI if he was you had to see
and Jalen Brown was cracking, was trashing the Houston Rockets
for those time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't imagine that the Houston Rockets were going try
to sign him up.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But you had us if you had clout in the selection, Okay,
And don't act like these things don't happen because Isaiah
Thomas didn't make the Dream Team.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He didn't make the Dream Team because Jordan didn't want.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Him on the day adult. So he had Claudia. He
had claud But what's that got to do with Nike?
You're remarker whatever, he has that kind of clout with
Team USA. Most people believe that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
So Team USA would have said, you know what, if
you put Jayleen Brown on this roster, were pulling our
athletes back?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
All right? Coold, But that's not it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They wouldn't have put him on because they didn't want
to look at the guy who has covered up their
swoosh and has ripped their company.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
When you watch that scrimmage, that team needs another defensive guard.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
They would have needed another defensive guard.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
If Kawhi Letard was on the roster and was healthy
and was one hundred percent, they still would healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
They wouldn't even think about no Derek White.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Somebody said, oh, we need to out Kawhi even though
he's healthy for Derek White because we need that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Are you kidding me? Stop?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
That's not what that what went on here? They decided
to slight Jalen Brown, and he has a right to be.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He could be up side if he wants. But it's
very logical.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's a very very logical explanation as to why it happened.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is
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Speaker 3 (29:25):
Where are you Jalen Brown? Is he out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And thinking that Nike has done this deliberately? Is he
in bounds? Martin thinks he's out of bounds. I think
he's spot on on this. I think if he wanted
to play in the Olympic team. He should have played
in the World Cup the year before. And this is
uh uh why he's not on the team. He deserves
to be on the team. We want to hear from you.
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But Martin, let's talk some NFL National Football League, and
let's talk about the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders, and
(31:08):
we've heard the talk and Aaron Rodgers whispering sweet nothing
in Davonte Adams. I can't wait to play with him again,
ear and whatnot? And uh, I just wonder is that
noise whispering and all that stuff out there, because Davante
has kind of gave him the green light to be like,
(31:30):
you know, I really don't. He went there for Derek Carr, right,
he went there for his ex college teammate, quarterback Derek Carry,
wanted to move out of Green Bay. All that stuff.
I get, it makes sense, but that doesn't mean that
the Raiders were gonna keep Derek Carr. And the first
thing they do is they jenison jennison him out right
after the first year. So then you're Davante. His numbers
(31:52):
have gone down. Who is the guy, Aidan O'Connell. Is
that the guy's name.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's a mix between Aid and O'Connell, Gardner Minshew, which
I'll call backup quarterback central.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, And if you're Davonte Adams, they're hoping to get
to the Hall of Fame too. My god, you're looking
at it going, is this really where I want to be? Like?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Really, where are the Raiders going home? Dinner? Maybe a show?
They're not going anywhere, Martin.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I mean, if you're the Raiders and you can maybe
fleece the Jets and get something and start the clock again, right,
I think the Raiders should trade Davonte Adams, send them
to Aaron Rodgers, send them to the Jets. Let them
ever reunited and it feels so good moment? Am I crazy?
I say this?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
If the Raiders are not ready to make a massive
trade for a quarterback, then the answer is trade DeVonta Adams.
Because you got we was talking about Michael Parsons and
is he a top five ed rusher? You definitely got
a top five edg rusher and Max Crosby on the
other side, right, you got a guy in Antonio Pierce
(32:59):
that they love to play. When we saw that last season,
and they found a cornerback in Jack Jones, who if
he could stay out of trouble. Is a shutdown type corner,
the guy who remember the guy intercepted Mahomes on Christmas
Day and handed the ball up into the stands to
the Raider fan. Everybody said he was holding from a
Chief's kid. Yeah, that guy can play straight up play.
If you're not gonna trade for like, go and go
(33:21):
get a guy at quarterback, because I think if you
called Jerry, you know we'll pay daxx fifty seven to
fifty eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Trade him over this way.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
If you're not willing to do that, then go ahead
and trade Devonte Adams because I don't I know you
haven't seen this probably the Netflix series Receiver Donte, where
Devonte Adams is one of the featured guys.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Did you know he's fifth all time in red zone touchdowns?
I did. Who was that playing? Who was he playing
with with the Raiders at the time. It's like this,
they followed him.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Last season, right, you're talking them about just last season
all time with the Packers, right, Well, he also scored
something with the Raid.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
But his point was, I've scored three touchdowns this year
playing with Jimmy Garoppolo as my quarterback. He's like, yo,
I'm good at this. Basically I can. I can get
up and get up with the best of him. And
if you saw him throughout that series, he was frustrated.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He was I saw the thing, and I saw clips
like I'm getting fed up every game and I'm getting
hit a lot, and he's.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
You know, he's just evidentt that he is not happy
with his Uh, he was not happy with it, and
he started to smile a little bit after they fired
McDaniels and went on to AOC But the reality, you know,
Aid and O'Connell, But the reality of the situation is
eight and O'Connell was a fourth round rookie who ended
up getting sacked seven times against the Chargers, who then
fired their coach.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's how it
ends up.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Like these guys are not NFL quality starting quarterbacks, and
if you're not gonna go get one, you might as
well go ahead and trade DeVonta Adams, just like he
moved on from Josh Jacobs this offseason.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I just I don't see why you would hold
on to him without you know, without a quarterback. I
don't think that that makes any sense. If you're the Raiders,
you got to determine where are you in or out?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You what are you?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I know they got some a couple of plates you
just mentioned on the defensive side, right, So are you
really vying Martin? Are you really gonna make a push?
Not with those two quarterbacks, You're not. I would love
that's the problem, just as a.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Fan of the game and a guy who like you know,
I know some of those guys down at Long Beach
Polly where Antonio Peerce was coaching in high school and
all that, and I'd love to see Antonio Pierce be
set up to a situation where he can actually have
an opportunity to try to win. And so I'd love
to see them go get a quarterback. But if you're
not going to do that, it makes no sense to
(35:41):
keep Davante out there because they the Raiders have weapons.
DeVonta Adams Jacobe Myers are two really good wide receivers.
DeVonta Adams is a Hall of Famer and Jacoby Myers
to me, is one step below the top tier of
guys when you look at the work that he does,
the stuff he puts out on tape.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Jacoby Myers can play as well.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Right, but the only the issue is we get that
and he could padd some stats for sure. I mean,
he's gonna make some plays and get some but if
you're not really trying to win his Davante Adams, you
know what I mean. I'm looking at it from that
standpoint where he might continue to be frustrated.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well, the move is the move would be to call
the Jets, who Aaron Rodgers has over a barrel. Call
the Jets and say, look, what's it going to cost?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Aaron Rodgers tall, Aaron Rodgers really, who's down there playing
golf somewhere right now? Call Aaron Rodgers and tell him, look,
go tell your GM you want Devonte Adams figure this
out and give us you know, your first round picks
are coming up soon, you know whatever picks are coming
up soon, and then Aaron and Devonte right off into
the sunset together because.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
They will both make the Jets better right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But the hall you would get because the whole reason
that Jets coaching staff still has their jobs right now
is because Aaron Rodgers got hurt on the fourth play
of the year and they just decided to take a
mulligan because they had already decided they couldn't win with
Zach Wilson, and then four snaps in even though they
knew the year before with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Now that to me was the biggest mistake ever made
it not even be a funny.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's one of the things that I like as a
radio host and a sports commentator. One of the things
I couldn't believe I missed it. I couldn't believe I
didn't see it in the moment that Zack Wilson was
still the backup quarterback and then all of a sudden
he's trotting back out there. Because if you should have
moved on from him entirely, right, they should have moved
on from him entirely.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
They already said they already right that he couldn't play.
And then you have an older quarterback, do you know
what I mean? Like you have to Martin as you
look on your team and you evaluate and say, worst
possible scenario, Aaron Rodgers gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Do we want to put Zack Wilson in? Am I right?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like that that has to be thought about at the meeting.
You can't go, well, Aaron's gonna play all seventeen games
and we don't have to worry about it. Just hold
them and we don't have to pay them or whatever.
It won't hurt us on the cat Like, you can't
look at it like that. You got to say, the
worst case scenario is Aaron Rodgers has four snapps and
then we got to play Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Right, we're trying to con gets hurting training camp. What
do you gotten hurt in training camp? Something like that,
And I just as as a commentator, I was mad.
I was like, damn, I just completely missed that. But
if I'm if I'm the Raiders, that's my move unless
I'm going to trade for a quarterback and get somebody
in here who's an adult in the room. Because both
ade O'Connell and Gardner Minshew as funny and eclectic as
(38:24):
Gardner Minshew is, he's not a starting quarterback in the NFL,
and it's just evident by his careers thus far in
the league, Like he could get you a couple of games.
He's a quit essential backup. I think both of those
guys are quit essential backup. They're starting more than five
games for you, You're probably in a bad spot.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Right, and you're probably not winning anything, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Like like like guys like that can play for a
few weeks exactly, just can't.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Play longer than that. And that's where they are. The Raiders.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man, they made moves and stuff, and you thought, man,
are they trying to do something? When you go get
a Davonte Adams, I mean like on the Cusp Hall
of Famer, I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think he's a surefire Hall of Fame, do you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
The only reason I say no is the it's hard
for wide receivers to get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I mean, like it's not it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So there's a lot of guys who are really good
who are either haven't gotten in or took a while
for them to get in.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I don't know why. I don't like the system that
they use, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It should just be based on if you're you got
the numbers or not.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Not this sports writers have to make a case for you,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't even get that Davante. But that's the way
that they do it in the NFL. So that's why
I think it's a it's a rougher path for wide.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Receivers, sure, but I think you ask your favorite wide receiver.
Whose favorite wide receiver is the answers Davonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
The Raiders need to make one or two calls.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Either call the Jets and say what's your price for
Davante or called the Cowboys to say what's your price
for Dak Prescott. That would be Those are the two
moves that the Raiders should one or two. That's what
they should if they're gonna plan on keeping Device Adams,
who's thirty years old right now through the rest of
the prime of his career.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
The Raiders Antonio Peers. I know that they.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Played for him at the end, you know, when he
took over and stuff, and people were excited about it.
But I just see them in a malaise. I just
don't see them. I don't I don't see anything going forward.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean I see them as.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Steps back, taking steps back, obviously at the quarterback position.
So I think the only thing that makes sense is
to try to build and get something rather than rather
than waste a talent like Davante Adams, And I know
he makes sure any quarterback app going to be better
because he's a great receiver.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But you're giving that up.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
You could get a younger or somebody else right to
be a wide receiver to grow with with Aidan O'Connell,
if that's who you're gonna put out there, or at
lead add some other pieces to this team that needs pieces.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah, I mean that would be a great opportunity to
do it. I just want them to give Antonio A.
Pierce a shot because how many times do we see
this happen where you know, you see the black guy
finally get an opportunity to coach a team, and then
all of a sudden they do nothing for him, and
then you know, three years later, two years, two and
a half years later, he's out of there and he
never gets another opportunity. When we see recycling of coaches
(41:25):
more than we see recycling of plastic bottles in the
United States.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Would you write that ahead of time? Look off the top?
Very nice? Yeah, so this this will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
What's your gut feeling of this happening, because because I don't,
I don't feel good about it. I think it makes sense,
it's logical, but but where do you.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Think I don't think he'll be traded.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I don't think the Raiders will move on from him,
because again, if I'm Antonio A.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Pierce, I'm the first thing I do. If you trade.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
DeVonta Adams, I'm storming into the GM's office and said,
what the hell was that about?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
How do you expect me to try to win anything
in this division? But the division to me is not
up for the taking. But because Kansas City is still there,
and Kansas City will win this division overwhelmingly probably. But
you got a situation in Denver where the quarterback's if
he you got a situation in Los Angeles with the
Chargers where they got a new head coach. We'll see
(42:18):
how he is. Jim Harball coming do. I know a
lot of people are high on him, but that roster
is markedly worse than it was last year.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I agree they they've downgraded.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
They have downgraded significantly across the board. It feels to
me like the wild card is in play in the
AFC if you could just get a guy to throw
Devontae the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I don't think AOCRDAVITCHI is one of them, right, It's
too late in the game, though, Who are you getting
at this point? I'll tell you. I called Jerry.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I called Jerry he said, Look, I don't have no
problem paying Dak Prescott fifty seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You seem to have one. What would you like in return?
I'll try I try to.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
If I was a team that didn't have a quarterback,
I'd be trying to get back right now.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Really at fifty seven million, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's just gonna the Caps is gonna keep going up
and up and up. You signed me up, I can
say four year deal something like that, Yeah, sign me up.
I would take the next four years of Dak Prescott's
coming off. Like Clarence Hill said earlier, the best year
of his career, second to MVP.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Voted okay, and uh postseason.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Look, hey, they need help in the postseason. The Cowboys
haven't got been able to get it done. But that
don't mean he can't.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
He hasn't play He hasn't played well either, let's not
I you're right, the Cowboys haven't done a lot. But
Dak's numbers in the postseason have been horrendous.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Even even two years ago. I mean he had a
stinker at home last year. Of course they got ripped.
He had three picks or something.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
He was he was awful you gotta look at the market. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Kirk Cousins is older than me, tore his achilles tendon,
then got four years, one hundred and eighty million, one
hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
That it's an open market. That's another bad.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
But I'm saying, if that's the going cost here, but
that ain't sixty million, I think, but it ain't. Dak
is young, four years younger, and I get it, five
years younger and better.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
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Speaker 3 (44:04):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Should the Raiders trade Davante Adams and let them reunite
with Aaron Rodgers. Go get some picks, Go get some
other players, do something else. Try to not waste a
talented or potentially Hall of Fame wide receiver with two
backup quarterbacks. Basically, it doesn't look like their offense is
going to be anything special. Why even bother with having
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with him in about twenty eight minutes or so. Antonio'daniels
in our number two of course, the NBA Champs Series,
XM NBA radio host and the New Orleans Pelicans. You
have more jobs than I do. Color analysts. We'll check
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in with him in our number two and olden polonies,
the former NBA vet Wow and Fox Sports Radio NBA
analysts as well.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So, mister Martin Weiss, how are you doing? Living the dream?
How are you?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I am doing just fine. We got a great show,
a lot of stuff to talk about on this funky
flashback Friday. Let's welcome in the odd Couple crew because
we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program
without them. Alex Tyshert Alex the Vegan is our engineer.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Ron.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
You know I worked all weeks. I'm taking days off
now are you next week? Well, when I'm at the
All Star Game, take those days.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What days are those? Monday and Tuesday? Perfect? Those days? Okay, wow,
those days I'm going to be here. That's right, I
would love it Tuesday. That's all right.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Respect is our producer in for Rob g Hey everybody.
Steve the Safety of course, is at the anchor desk.
He'll keep us updated throughout the program, and Saga Saga
Patel is our social media guru.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
He's in for Elijah. So do you know what that means.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
It means that it's the summertime and everybody's taking vacation,
and everybody's off except for me, and except for Martin,
and even when I'm off, I'm working. But it's all good.
We're great on this Friday to have you along, Martin,
and so much to talk about, and let's start here.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Let's do it. NBA, you got that you want to?
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Can you read me the deal? The horrendous deal that
Jalen Brunson just took from the New York Next.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
Horrendous is one way to put it. I don't think
that was in the breakdown of the news. I don't
think WoDES tweeted that it was horrendous, But it's said well.
Adrian Waldrianowski from ESPN says, in a largely unprecedented financial
concession that give the flexibility to a contender, What was that?
What did I call it? You said it was horrendous,
(03:45):
all right, That's what he said in five words. I
said it in one horrendous New York Knicks star Jalen
Brunston has agreed to way four year, one hundred and
fifty six point five million dollar extension to his agent,
Sam Rose of CIA tells ESPN one hundred and third
teen million less guaranteed than he's eligible to shive next year.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
The deal is a three year plus one. A deal
is a three year plus one with the player option
in year four.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Okay, Martin Weiss, I've been covering sports for almost forty years,
and I can't figure out players who take less money
than they were entitled to. It's dumb, It's absurd. Do
you know how much James Dolan, who owns the Knicks,
is worth billions? Two billion dollars two billion dollars with
(04:36):
a B and they're helping the Knicks do what? Do? What?
Win a championship? Is that what you're doing by taking
less money. There's a chance that Jalen bro I know,
nobody wants to believe it. There's a chance he could
be hurt right and never get another deal. There is
a real possibility. Sure, Isaiah Thomas, who was with the Celtics,
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do you remember that rush back to play in the
playoffs for them?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Guess what happened? Martin? He got hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
He was in It was in in the MVP of
voting that year, got hurt, never got paid. Still been
trying to get back in the NBA for the last
number of years. And all I'm saying is, come on, guys,
stop doing this. Let the teams do their jobs. Get
what you're entitled to. I don't see the Nicks saying,
(05:27):
because Jalen Brunts is taking less money and leaving one
hundred and thirteen million on the table, we're gonna reduce price.
Taking prices at Madison Square Gardens. French fries aren't gonna
cost fourteen dollars anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Martin, We're gonna drop them the seven.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Because now he gave a break to the Knicks so
that they have flexibility. All right, Patrick Mahomes did that.
Guess what did that keep Tyreek Hill there and and
some of his pieces.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Now they won in spite of it.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
But they told Patrick Mahomes that if he did that,
they be able to keep the team together. Well, the
first thing they did got rid of Tyreek Kill. So
when they tell you that they're going this is gonna
help the team flexibility, We're gonna go get other players.
Stop the Tom Brady story with the New England Patriots,
it's a fraudulent story. First of all, his wife made
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more money than Tom Brady. Number two, the Patriots never
took that extra money. Martin named the big free agent
receivers that they got Tom Brady. Only ever talk about
is they got Tom Brady through the guys who worked
at Dunkin Donuts because they never got anybody. Ask all
the defensive players at the Patriots, like Ty Law and
some of those guys who never got paid. They used
(06:40):
up their ability when they were young and never got
their long term contract. And then that story on ESPN
had the nerve to say, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady and
Derek Jeter, you know, like a formula related their contract
so that the team it could do stuff did the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
There's no salary cap.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
There, hoseball, That makes no How is Derek Jeter's name
in that story?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Can you stop it? So all I'm saying is this
is a mistake. This is dumb. This makes no sense
to me. Players should get what the market value is,
stop trying to save teams money.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
So I understand your point, but the idea that he's
saving teams saving his team money. I think is something
that we're missing here, because what he did do is
he set himself up now over the next three seasons,
he will be a ten year NBA VET. After those
next three seasons, he he will not be opting in
to year four of this contract, right, he will be
opting out and has a potential to be the first
(07:45):
million dollar a game player in the NBA when the
TV rights kick into the salary cap and it goes
up literally forty million dollars between now and two years
from now.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
That's what he ended up doing.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
And in the meanwhile, he kept the team out of
the second out of the Aprons, so they're able to
still maneuver and sign another big man because we see
that he's got his all his college teammates that he
won championships with in Bridges, the Vincenzo uh and the
rest of the Villanova kids, Josh Hart than the rest
of those Villanova kids. So I get where you're saying that,
you know, is he taking some big sacrifice. Absolutely for
(08:21):
I mean forty million dollars over the next three years,
that's nothing to shake a stick at, right, But if
he has the opportunity to make all that back and
more in three seasons. And I get what you're saying
about the organization. He could get hurt, he could do
Isaiah Thomas. Well, the dirty secret out loud is or
the quiet part oullowed is. Isaiah Thomas was never going
to get a max contract from the Boston.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
But he never got a contract because what I'm saying
by trying to help the organization.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, by coming back too early from the he should
have just like I hate.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
The well, but he was trying to help. He's trying
to help the organization. Point I try to.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I don't mean to be smirch a guy for playing
through injury, right, I commend that, But they deal with that.
Isaiah Thomas was going to sign the max contract at
the time. What I said, that's not what I That's
what I'm saying. He was never going to get that
max contract.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
About max contract, it's about helping, trying to help.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
The team when you need to take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Here's the other part, all right with that, Jalen Brunson,
what story are they talking about? Jalen Brunson, Tom Brady,
Derek Jeter, and Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
How does he fit into that story? Martin he doesn't.
He doesn't fit in.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
He's not even on that level with those guys.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Doesn't make any sense for a guy like now when
the Knicks continue to have success behind this roster, because
I think this roster is a top three roster in
the East, and provided that everybody stays healthy, which is
a big if, Provided everybody stays healthy, they should be
in competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs going forward. It
had been dark in New York for a while. I
think those lights are coming a little bit brighter. But
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in three years from now, Jalen Brunston has a not
not even just a fifty percent chance, a seventy five
eighty percent chance that he'll be making eighty one million
dollars a year, which would be the first million dollar
player just about in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, but if he took, if he took the money now,
he would get that money if he still let player.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
My thing is.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Even in the even in the case of sho Hail Tani,
it's deferred, right, but he took the seven hundred million,
but he didn't. He didn't go I'm gonna wait, wait
a minute, let me take three years with the dog
and I wait for the new baseball contract TV deal
to kick in or the new deal or to happen.
My point also is you think you know for sure,
(10:38):
go ask the San Diego Padres and some of these
other teams where Bally Sports is gone, belly up and
some of these other things that sign these lucrative TV
deals that no longer in place.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
So you Amazon, If ESPN, Amazon and NBC go belly
up in the next three years, then you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Jalen Brunson made a terrible, terrible mistake. But my point
I'm not being on that you don't know that. It's
easy to say that, but you don't know that.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
And my point is why help an organization that can't
get out out of its own way. And just because
you save it money doesn't mean it's going to be
spent wisely or it's going to enhance you into winning anything.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
You're not guaranteed anything.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I know that it's not cool to talk about the CBA,
but the reality of the situation is had he took
that contract, they wouldn't be able to do anything at all.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
His fault is that is that his fault on the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
It's the fault of the Players Association, for agreeing to
these ridiculous first and second aprons.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Well they did that because the owners had them over
a barrel and the players weren't willing to fight.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
For It's a ridiculous thing. But Jalen brs players that
still have no salary cap. Jalen Bruston ain't got nothing
to do with that. He's just got to deal with
the rules of engagement that are set by were set
by Jalen Brown and Grant Williams and the rest of the.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
When the owners start giving fans rebates and discounting food
and twenty dollars beers and all that talking about saving
the organizationation money and giving them.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Flex it's not about saving the organization.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
It's about keeping the organization out of these very restrictive restrictions.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
That's not with the first and second APRIN. He's in tire,
but he's entire. I get that. No, I don't know,
Yes I do. I get that. There's no reason everybody
if they go into.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
The first and second APRIN and this is the team
that there will have, there will be no ability to
improve your team.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That's the That's what the reality is that the Players Association.
It's not it's the Knicks. Now, what's that just? It is?
What are they supposed to not?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Can't the Knicks going to second aprin now owners worth
two billion?
Speaker 3 (12:34):
He cares not about paying the tax, about the second April. No,
that's not what the whole set.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
The whole point of the aprons is to be to
take teams that want to just pay the tax and
punish them in other ways besides financial. That's why you
can't do sign of trades. That's why you can't pay.
That's why you can't do sign of trades. That's why
every trades make has to be dollar for dollars in
and out. But that's why your first round pick, the
maybe frozen and kicked to the back of the first round.
All of those things are not necessar sssarily financially related. Jave,
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don't look at absolutely pay the luxury tax. And if
we were still under the same CBA that we were
prior to now, then I would be agreeing with you.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
No, but let me tell you what.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
You got to stay out of these first second aprons
if you want to have any flexibility to build your team.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The Knicks, and that's the player's fault that but the
Knicks are in this situation because of what they've spent
and where they are, and they knew that they had
to sign Jalen Brunton. All I'm saying is they're fortunate
because if Jayleen Brunton took what he was deserved or
what he should be getting. Remember he came over for
Dallas for peanuts, and now all of a sudden he's
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in a conversation about about taking less now to help
the organization. Like Tom Brady, Derek Jeter and Patrick Mahonmes.
I'm not in I'm not having that conversation. That's not
what I'm talking That's why I don't give it good.
I don't care about Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady. That's
what they're talry about. That's what the story talks to.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Talk to the guy and the story, because that's got
nothing to do with the first and second apron. There's
a hard cap in the NFL, and what the second
apron does that effectively acts as a hard cap in
the NBA.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
That's the player's fault.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, but that's also you gotta be able to work
with inside that framework.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
The Knicks agreed to that as well. That's why he took.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
That's why he took less money out on the back
side and take the rest.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
No, he did this salary cap.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
The Knicks agreed to play under those rules, so they
need to be the ones that take that brunt. That
shouldn't be on Jalen Brunton to help them. That's my point.
The Knick sign that agreement as well, and they just.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
The Players Association and now Players Association should not have
agreed to this situation in the first day play.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
But the owners this is the rules that they want
play under them. Knicks, don't ask Jalen Brunton to do that.
You play under them. Those are what you wanted.
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Nobody would be crying in three years when he's an
eighty million dollar game player.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Eighty million dollars, Hold me in three years, let me
know how that turns out.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven, seven, nine,
nine six sixty sixty three sixty nine, Brunson takes less
money to help the Knicks out.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Where are you on this? I think is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
I think players should never, ever, ever, under any circumstance,
take less money than they're entitled to.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Period. Your job is not to help the front office.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Your job is to play basketball or play your game
and do the best you can.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, we want to hear from you.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
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Probably go with Tony Fodsco.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Toni Foodsco Show.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
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But instead of us telling you how great we are,
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Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
What are you doing interrupting our promo?
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, it wasn't talking about you. You took those clips
totally out of context.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
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out and beat you.
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Let me put this into context. Shut up.
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Speaker 3 (17:22):
So that's coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Looking around Major League Baseball, Dodgers are still trailing the Tigers.
The Yankees are beating the O's and that's a good
matchup there, Oh's and Yankees. O's going to this series
up to games in the Al East. The HBCU Swingman
Classic is on MLB Network. That's happening today that game
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is about the kickoff. So a lot of stuff going on.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
But let's talk how about the Tigers seven and three
in their last ten.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Yeah, and they were remember they want to verge. They
had lost like twelve out of sixteen. You remember that.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Of course I'd be I'm doing it every day to
the team.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Every day. It was am I right? It looked like
I was.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
I remember thinking, is a j Hinchow they go to
you know what I mean, give them the ziggy because
it hain'd gotten bad.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
All it took for me was to go on sports
rap radio say I'm done with this team that was
seven and three runs.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
That's usually what happens the announcers jinks.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But all right, let's talk about Jalen Brown from the
Boston Celtics, who, of course did not get the nod
when Kawhi Leonard bowed out of the team USA Basketball
and Jalen Brunson is convinced Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
But Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Show today, Jalen Brown is convinced that Nike has something
to do with it, and so we doubled down today
you got something.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
Yeah, so he tweets at Nike, is this what we're
doing insinuating that Nike is in control of Team USA.
Then he doubled down with you know, the monocle emoji,
which I don't be fluent emoji, but apparently that is
the one when you're searching for a reason or an answer.
And then cam Newton asked him yesterday at the SP's
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why he wasn't with Team USA, and he said, you know,
I don't have any comment on that. I'm with my
beautiful date. He was with the the Gondrews ex sister
who played just got Wigh from the Sky not too
long ago from the w NBA, who is a gorgeous woman.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So that was it. He's doing well for himself.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I'd say yes in the woman department. But I think
he's a little the clump that he's not on the
Olympic time.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
I mean, he is upset, but I mean, you know,
you could be upset all you want about it, but
to me, you know, they made a change in the
way that they are valuing did the roster in Team USA.
It's not the same as it used to be in
the past, where you go and you're you get invited
to the tryout and then out of that tryout, the
best twelve players make it.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
It's people.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
They give precedent and give priority to people who have
participated in Team USA in the in the past few years,
right at the different World Cups, and you know, summer
by summer, these teams are playing internationally. And that's why,
in my opinion, Derek White got the now because Jalen
Brown hasn't been on Team USA since twenty and nineteen.
While invited to the pool and all other stuff, he
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didn't participate since twenty and nineteen.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I disagree. I'm with Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
I think that this has a lot to do with
his criticism of Nike, and Nike runs this whether people
want to believe it or not. I think all but
four players are Nike representatives. The other four do not
wear Nike, and we get it, and I think that
there's something to it. Because he's replaced. He would be
replacing Kawhi Leonard, who he could easily replace and be
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that kind of player.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
If there was a player like Derek White.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Who does all the stuff that they're talking about they
want on the team and that was the guy that
went down, then Derek White would make total sense as
a replacement in this case. Jalen Brown just won the
NBA Championship with the Celtics, just one the finals MVP,
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and he doesn't have a right to turn it down
or be offered it. That That's where I have an issue, Like,
there's a lot of politics, Martin. And you got to
admit this, whether whether or not, I don't have any
evidence in front of me, but what you agree that
politics does play a role in sports and a lot
on a lot of levels.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Sure, And it's not politics in the traditional sense, the
politics of.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Dealing with people, you know what.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
That's what when we talk about the politics, not political parties.
And and and I think some of his criticism of
Nike and the stuff that they've done, and the tweets
and stuff that he's set put out and whatnot against Nike,
I do believe that, Uh, it's not the kind of
guy that maybe they want to have UH out there
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and put on that platform as a guy. And Chris
even talked about this the other day. He's always surprised
that he covers up the Nike swoosh Martin right on
his but he does still wear them. And I don't
know if that's just comfort or feeling comfortable in them,
you know what I mean, or something like that, where
it's just not another sneaker that he can wear. But
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if I'm Nike, I'm definitely not trying to enhance anybody
who is covering up the Nike swish.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
I mean, but there are several non Nike.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
There's only set there's out of the twelve players on
the team, bam Adebayo, Devin Booker, Anthony Davis, Kevin Durant, Halliburton,
Lebron James, and Tatum are Nike athletes, so over half
of the team, but just by one. Right, So there's
six other athletes on the team that aren't Nikes. Two
of them are starters and Embiid. Embiid his under armorer,
steps under armor. Anthony Edwards's Adidas. He just signed a
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massive Adidas deal to be the face of that basketball operation.
So I think the Nike angle, well, I mean, it's
a little bit overblown in my opinion. I think the
roster was flawed in the first place. I don't know
what Kawhi was ever doing there. And when I think
when you watched.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
The if Kawhi was held then that roster would have
still he would have been on that roster and they
still would have a chance to win, whether whether it's
Kawhi or not.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Let's be clear.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
So dek is not going to be the reason why
they win or lose. But you're right with that, Let's
be clear.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Let me ask you that you guys, they could have
just sent Kawhi home and brought nobody back and they're
still going.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
So what's the difference between Derek White on that team
and and and rewarding Jalen Brown, who is the Finals
MVP and just won a championship.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
What is the difference.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
The difference is Derek White played for Team USA in
the last three years.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
That's the difference. That could be the reason why you
don't have to bring him.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
You could Jalen Jaylen why because he played for Jalen
Brown just elevated everything about him by winning the Finals MVP.
Those are the players you usually want to reward and celebrate.
The reason Kawhi was on it is because Kawhi had
never played for Team USA and they wanted to give
Kawhi that opportunity. That's all I'm saying. Derek White is
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not going to be the reason for anything. So what
is the difference whether you're Brown, Jalen Brown.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Neither would Jalen Brown. That's why.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Of course, if you're Nike, a guy who's covering up
your swash, that's the guy you want to bring in. No,
I don't think so. I think you're downplaying the importance
and the cloud that Nike has. I think Nike has
way more clout than under Armour and Adidas and those
those companies.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Well, they didn't use none of that cloud to keep
those guys off the team.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
They can't keep everybody off, now, let's be realistic. So
they just you know, Taylor Brown, you're the one.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
No, he's the one tweeting and ripping on Nike. Give
me the other quotes from Steph ripping on Nike?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Do you have them? No? They don't have them. Yeah,
they don't. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
I mean, none of the other guys are ripping on Nike.
You But I don't think that Yl Brown is not
on the US team.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
I don't. I don't think that. I think that if
Jalen Brown.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
So, what is the reason if Derek White doesn't matter
if they're gonna win or lose.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
I'm asking you, Martin, what you're saying doesn't make.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Sense because your argument is he just won the finals MVP.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
You know what the reward for that is the ring.
He's one of these.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Comments finals, every ring. That's the reward for that. That's
the reward for that, the finals MVP. It's the same
argument as to why Caitlyn Clark and Angel Rees are
on the women's team because they weren't practicing with the
women's team, they didn't participate with the women's team in
past summers.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
It's you know, I get it. You know, it fits
a little tin hat theory to be like.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
When was this is Kawhi's first go first, So what's
the difference.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I don't even know why took the first part.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
I don't I wouldn't have brought him because they were
trying to celebrate Kawhi for what a great player he's
been in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
He won two finals m vps and two championship.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
I think that's a dumb reason to build an Olympic team.
How somebody good, somebody is in the NBA. But he
ordered for that. But he was already rewards for how
good you are in the NBA player called championships.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's how the reward for how good you are in
the NBA. Derek White makes no difference. This is what
they call a slight. It was a slight of Jalen Brown.
As I said the other day, he was pimp slapped
by the team USA. That's what it is. There's no
reason this guy shouldn't be on the team. One of
the best play he makes seventy million dollars, he makes
(26:07):
seventy seven zero. He's considered one of the best players
in the league. And they got a spot open because
Kawhi can't make it. Let's go get a reserve Derek White.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Let's go put him on Derek Olympet in a reserve
since since basically since he got drafted. But that's neither
here nor there. Derek White's a better fit for this team.
Derek White's not gonna play a ton of minutes when
things get down to it, but if he did, the
only guard out there that's a really great defender besides
Anthony Edwards, I mean Drew Holliday in the starting lineup
and Anthony Edwards are the.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Two can Jalen Brown defend? Are the They are the
two guard defenders.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
When you look at these teams, who's gonna stay in
front of Jaal Murray. Would you like Jalen Brown to
do that or Derek White to do that? Because Derek
White was the guy who was staying in front of
Kyrie Irving.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Is Derek White going to be the reason you win?
Jalen Brown wasn't gonna be the reason they want. Kawhile
wasn't gonna be the reason.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's the case.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
So you did celebrate the nothing to do with anything
that it does you should give you to celebrate the
player that's had a higher standing in the league.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
That's a you got rewards for that, and he got
two on it.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Right Celtics on there, right on the team. How many
Celtics are there? They are three now, and and and
and and and Jalen Brown isn't one of them.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That's that's a slap in the face.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Look, he can feel like it's a slap in the
face all the odds, but it's a logical reasoning.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
It's fun to be like, oh, it's.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
All Nankees for because he does the covers of Miss Swoonster,
He's got this doing this.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Don that thought, Well, you don't think that factors in
at all. I'm just asking you if you own the business.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
If you own the business and the guy that you
have a chance to either put on a team or
not put on the team is ripping your company, don't
tell me that that wouldn't factor in whether or not
you would have that guy on the team with us. A.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
That's not but that's what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
No, I'm MASKI if he was you had to see
and Jalen Brown was cracking, was trashing the Houston Rockets
for those time.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
I don't imagine that the Houston Rockets were going try
to sign him up.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
But you had us if you had clout in the selection, Okay,
And don't act like these things don't happen because Isaiah
Thomas didn't make the Dream Team.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
He didn't make the Dream Team because Jordan didn't want.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Him on the day adult. So he had Claudia. He
had claud But what's that got to do with Nike?
You're remarker whatever, he has that kind of clout with
Team USA. Most people believe that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
So Team USA would have said, you know what, if
you put Jayleen Brown on this roster, were pulling our
athletes back?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
All right? Coold, But that's not it.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
They wouldn't have put him on because they didn't want
to look at the guy who has covered up their
swoosh and has ripped their company.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
When you watch that scrimmage, that team needs another defensive guard.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
They would have needed another defensive guard.
Speaker 4 (28:51):
If Kawhi Letard was on the roster and was healthy
and was one hundred percent, they still would healthy.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
They wouldn't even think about no Derek White.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Somebody said, oh, we need to out Kawhi even though
he's healthy for Derek White because we need that.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
Are you kidding me? Stop?
Speaker 1 (29:06):
That's not what that what went on here? They decided
to slight Jalen Brown, and he has a right to be.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He could be up side if he wants. But it's
very logical.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It's a very very logical explanation as to why it happened.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
All right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is
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Speaker 3 (29:25):
Where are you Jalen Brown? Is he out of bounds?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And thinking that Nike has done this deliberately? Is he
in bounds? Martin thinks he's out of bounds. I think
he's spot on on this. I think if he wanted
to play in the Olympic team. He should have played
in the World Cup the year before. And this is
uh uh why he's not on the team. He deserves
to be on the team. We want to hear from you.
Eight seven, seven ninety nine On Fox It is the
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But Martin, let's talk some NFL National Football League, and
let's talk about the Las Vegas Raiders. The Raiders, and
(31:08):
we've heard the talk and Aaron Rodgers whispering sweet nothing
in Davonte Adams. I can't wait to play with him again,
ear and whatnot? And uh, I just wonder is that
noise whispering and all that stuff out there, because Davante
has kind of gave him the green light to be like,
(31:30):
you know, I really don't. He went there for Derek Carr, right,
he went there for his ex college teammate, quarterback Derek Carry,
wanted to move out of Green Bay. All that stuff.
I get, it makes sense, but that doesn't mean that
the Raiders were gonna keep Derek Carr. And the first
thing they do is they jenison jennison him out right
after the first year. So then you're Davante. His numbers
(31:52):
have gone down. Who is the guy, Aidan O'Connell. Is
that the guy's name.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
It's a mix between Aid and O'Connell, Gardner Minshew, which
I'll call backup quarterback central.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Okay, And if you're Davonte Adams, they're hoping to get
to the Hall of Fame too. My god, you're looking
at it going, is this really where I want to be? Like?
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Really, where are the Raiders going home? Dinner? Maybe a show?
They're not going anywhere, Martin.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I mean, if you're the Raiders and you can maybe
fleece the Jets and get something and start the clock again, right,
I think the Raiders should trade Davonte Adams, send them
to Aaron Rodgers, send them to the Jets. Let them
ever reunited and it feels so good moment? Am I crazy?
I say this?
Speaker 4 (32:38):
If the Raiders are not ready to make a massive
trade for a quarterback, then the answer is trade DeVonta Adams.
Because you got we was talking about Michael Parsons and
is he a top five ed rusher? You definitely got
a top five edg rusher and Max Crosby on the
other side, right, you got a guy in Antonio Pierce
(32:59):
that they love to play. When we saw that last season,
and they found a cornerback in Jack Jones, who if
he could stay out of trouble. Is a shutdown type corner,
the guy who remember the guy intercepted Mahomes on Christmas
Day and handed the ball up into the stands to
the Raider fan. Everybody said he was holding from a
Chief's kid. Yeah, that guy can play straight up play.
If you're not gonna trade for like, go and go
(33:21):
get a guy at quarterback, because I think if you
called Jerry, you know we'll pay daxx fifty seven to
fifty eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
Trade him over this way.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
If you're not willing to do that, then go ahead
and trade Devonte Adams because I don't I know you
haven't seen this probably the Netflix series Receiver Donte, where
Devonte Adams is one of the featured guys.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Did you know he's fifth all time in red zone touchdowns?
I did. Who was that playing? Who was he playing
with with the Raiders at the time. It's like this,
they followed him.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Last season, right, you're talking them about just last season
all time with the Packers, right, Well, he also scored
something with the Raid.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
But his point was, I've scored three touchdowns this year
playing with Jimmy Garoppolo as my quarterback. He's like, yo,
I'm good at this. Basically I can. I can get
up and get up with the best of him. And
if you saw him throughout that series, he was frustrated.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He was I saw the thing, and I saw clips
like I'm getting fed up every game and I'm getting
hit a lot, and he's.
Speaker 4 (34:19):
You know, he's just evidentt that he is not happy
with his Uh, he was not happy with it, and
he started to smile a little bit after they fired
McDaniels and went on to AOC But the reality, you know,
Aid and O'Connell, But the reality of the situation is
eight and O'Connell was a fourth round rookie who ended
up getting sacked seven times against the Chargers, who then
fired their coach.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's how it
ends up.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Like these guys are not NFL quality starting quarterbacks, and
if you're not gonna go get one, you might as
well go ahead and trade DeVonta Adams, just like he
moved on from Josh Jacobs this offseason.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Yeah, I just I don't see why you would hold
on to him without you know, without a quarterback. I
don't think that that makes any sense. If you're the Raiders,
you got to determine where are you in or out?
Speaker 3 (35:04):
You what are you?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I know they got some a couple of plates you
just mentioned on the defensive side, right, So are you
really vying Martin? Are you really gonna make a push?
Not with those two quarterbacks, You're not. I would love
that's the problem, just as a.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Fan of the game and a guy who like you know,
I know some of those guys down at Long Beach
Polly where Antonio Peerce was coaching in high school and
all that, and I'd love to see Antonio Pierce be
set up to a situation where he can actually have
an opportunity to try to win. And so I'd love
to see them go get a quarterback. But if you're
not going to do that, it makes no sense to
(35:41):
keep Davante out there because they the Raiders have weapons.
DeVonta Adams Jacobe Myers are two really good wide receivers.
DeVonta Adams is a Hall of Famer and Jacoby Myers
to me, is one step below the top tier of
guys when you look at the work that he does,
the stuff he puts out on tape.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Jacoby Myers can play as well.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Right, but the only the issue is we get that
and he could padd some stats for sure. I mean,
he's gonna make some plays and get some but if
you're not really trying to win his Davante Adams, you
know what I mean. I'm looking at it from that
standpoint where he might continue to be frustrated.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
Well, the move is the move would be to call
the Jets, who Aaron Rodgers has over a barrel. Call
the Jets and say, look, what's it going to cost?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
All right?
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Aaron Rodgers tall, Aaron Rodgers really, who's down there playing
golf somewhere right now? Call Aaron Rodgers and tell him, look,
go tell your GM you want Devonte Adams figure this
out and give us you know, your first round picks
are coming up soon, you know whatever picks are coming
up soon, and then Aaron and Devonte right off into
the sunset together because.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
They will both make the Jets better right here, right now.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
But the hall you would get because the whole reason
that Jets coaching staff still has their jobs right now
is because Aaron Rodgers got hurt on the fourth play
of the year and they just decided to take a
mulligan because they had already decided they couldn't win with
Zach Wilson, and then four snaps in even though they
knew the year before with Zach Wilson.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Now that to me was the biggest mistake ever made
it not even be a funny.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
It's one of the things that I like as a
radio host and a sports commentator. One of the things
I couldn't believe I missed it. I couldn't believe I
didn't see it in the moment that Zack Wilson was
still the backup quarterback and then all of a sudden
he's trotting back out there. Because if you should have
moved on from him entirely, right, they should have moved
on from him entirely.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
They already said they already right that he couldn't play.
And then you have an older quarterback, do you know
what I mean? Like you have to Martin as you
look on your team and you evaluate and say, worst
possible scenario, Aaron Rodgers gets hurt.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
Do we want to put Zack Wilson in? Am I right?
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Like that that has to be thought about at the meeting.
You can't go, well, Aaron's gonna play all seventeen games
and we don't have to worry about it. Just hold
them and we don't have to pay them or whatever.
It won't hurt us on the cat Like, you can't
look at it like that. You got to say, the
worst case scenario is Aaron Rodgers has four snapps and
then we got to play Zach Wilson.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
Right, we're trying to con gets hurting training camp. What
do you gotten hurt in training camp? Something like that,
And I just as as a commentator, I was mad.
I was like, damn, I just completely missed that. But
if I'm if I'm the Raiders, that's my move unless
I'm going to trade for a quarterback and get somebody
in here who's an adult in the room. Because both
ade O'Connell and Gardner Minshew as funny and eclectic as
(38:24):
Gardner Minshew is, he's not a starting quarterback in the NFL,
and it's just evident by his careers thus far in
the league, Like he could get you a couple of games.
He's a quit essential backup. I think both of those
guys are quit essential backup. They're starting more than five
games for you, You're probably in a bad spot.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
Right, and you're probably not winning anything, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Like like like guys like that can play for a
few weeks exactly, just can't.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
Play longer than that. And that's where they are. The Raiders.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Man, they made moves and stuff, and you thought, man,
are they trying to do something? When you go get
a Davonte Adams, I mean like on the Cusp Hall
of Famer, I mean.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
I think he's a surefire Hall of Fame, do you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (39:06):
The only reason I say no is the it's hard
for wide receivers to get into the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
I mean, like it's not it's not easy.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
So there's a lot of guys who are really good
who are either haven't gotten in or took a while
for them to get in.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
I don't know why. I don't like the system that
they use, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
It should just be based on if you're you got
the numbers or not.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Not this sports writers have to make a case for you,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I don't even get that Davante. But that's the way
that they do it in the NFL. So that's why
I think it's a it's a rougher path for wide.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
Receivers, sure, but I think you ask your favorite wide receiver.
Whose favorite wide receiver is the answers Davonte Adams.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
The Raiders need to make one or two calls.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Either call the Jets and say what's your price for
Davante or called the Cowboys to say what's your price
for Dak Prescott. That would be Those are the two
moves that the Raiders should one or two. That's what
they should if they're gonna plan on keeping Device Adams,
who's thirty years old right now through the rest of
the prime of his career.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
And.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
The Raiders Antonio Peers. I know that they.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Played for him at the end, you know, when he
took over and stuff, and people were excited about it.
But I just see them in a malaise. I just
don't see them. I don't I don't see anything going forward.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I mean I see them as.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Steps back, taking steps back, obviously at the quarterback position.
So I think the only thing that makes sense is
to try to build and get something rather than rather
than waste a talent like Davante Adams, And I know
he makes sure any quarterback app going to be better
because he's a great receiver.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
But you're giving that up.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
You could get a younger or somebody else right to
be a wide receiver to grow with with Aidan O'Connell,
if that's who you're gonna put out there, or at
lead add some other pieces to this team that needs pieces.
Speaker 4 (41:03):
Yeah, I mean that would be a great opportunity to
do it. I just want them to give Antonio A.
Pierce a shot because how many times do we see
this happen where you know, you see the black guy
finally get an opportunity to coach a team, and then
all of a sudden they do nothing for him, and
then you know, three years later, two years, two and
a half years later, he's out of there and he
never gets another opportunity. When we see recycling of coaches
(41:25):
more than we see recycling of plastic bottles in the
United States.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Would you write that ahead of time? Look off the top?
Very nice? Yeah, so this this will be interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
What's your gut feeling of this happening, because because I don't,
I don't feel good about it. I think it makes sense,
it's logical, but but where do you.
Speaker 3 (41:45):
Think I don't think he'll be traded.
Speaker 4 (41:48):
I don't think the Raiders will move on from him,
because again, if I'm Antonio A.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
Pierce, I'm the first thing I do. If you trade.
Speaker 4 (41:54):
DeVonta Adams, I'm storming into the GM's office and said,
what the hell was that about?
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Right?
Speaker 4 (41:58):
How do you expect me to try to win anything
in this division? But the division to me is not
up for the taking. But because Kansas City is still there,
and Kansas City will win this division overwhelmingly probably. But
you got a situation in Denver where the quarterback's if
he you got a situation in Los Angeles with the
Chargers where they got a new head coach. We'll see
(42:18):
how he is. Jim Harball coming do. I know a
lot of people are high on him, but that roster
is markedly worse than it was last year.
Speaker 3 (42:25):
I agree they they've downgraded.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
They have downgraded significantly across the board. It feels to
me like the wild card is in play in the
AFC if you could just get a guy to throw
Devontae the ball.
Speaker 3 (42:35):
I don't think AOCRDAVITCHI is one of them, right, It's
too late in the game, though, Who are you getting
at this point? I'll tell you. I called Jerry.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I called Jerry he said, Look, I don't have no
problem paying Dak Prescott fifty seven million dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
You seem to have one. What would you like in return?
I'll try I try to.
Speaker 4 (42:51):
If I was a team that didn't have a quarterback,
I'd be trying to get back right now.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Really at fifty seven million, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:57):
It's just gonna the Caps is gonna keep going up
and up and up. You signed me up, I can
say four year deal something like that, Yeah, sign me up.
I would take the next four years of Dak Prescott's
coming off. Like Clarence Hill said earlier, the best year
of his career, second to MVP.
Speaker 3 (43:09):
Voted okay, and uh postseason.
Speaker 4 (43:12):
Look, hey, they need help in the postseason. The Cowboys
haven't got been able to get it done. But that
don't mean he can't.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
He hasn't play He hasn't played well either, let's not
I you're right, the Cowboys haven't done a lot. But
Dak's numbers in the postseason have been horrendous.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Even even two years ago. I mean he had a
stinker at home last year. Of course they got ripped.
He had three picks or something.
Speaker 3 (43:35):
He was he was awful you gotta look at the market. Man.
Speaker 4 (43:37):
Kirk Cousins is older than me, tore his achilles tendon,
then got four years, one hundred and eighty million, one
hundred million guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
That it's an open market. That's another bad.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
But I'm saying, if that's the going cost here, but
that ain't sixty million, I think, but it ain't. Dak
is young, four years younger, and I get it, five
years younger and better.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
All right?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
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Speaker 3 (44:04):
Where are you?
Speaker 1 (44:06):
Should the Raiders trade Davante Adams and let them reunite
with Aaron Rodgers. Go get some picks, Go get some
other players, do something else. Try to not waste a
talented or potentially Hall of Fame wide receiver with two
backup quarterbacks. Basically, it doesn't look like their offense is
going to be anything special. Why even bother with having
(44:29):
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