July 23, 2024 • 28 mins
Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sport Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Chris, and he and Rob explain why the NFL Players’ Association needs to demand lifetime healthcare and fully-guaranteed contracts in exchange for an 18-game season, explain why the Los Angeles Lakers still stink despite having two of the greatest players in the NBA on their roster – LeBron James and Anthony Davis - and discuss why Cheryl Miller is misguided when she says that the WNBA deserves $8 billion from the NBA as part of their new media rights deal.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Harker e from Let's Get started here and this is
right up your alley with football and all that other
kind of stuff in the NFL again, any chance they
get to make money off the players and put them
in harm's way And nobody wants this. Nobody needs an
eighteenth football game. Nobody needed a seventeenth football game. Okay,
(00:49):
but here's what fans don't understand. There's only one reason
why they want an eighteenth game and why they wanted
a seventh.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
They don't make any money off the x shibition games.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
They're local TV, they're not national, they're not a part
of the national deal. And when they go and make
these games real, the value is through the roof, of course.
So that's all.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
This is it's not about ah no, no, if they
could have thirty games and get enough players to play,
they would play thirty games. This is the problem with
Las Vegas and gambling on football. There's not enough inventory, right,
there's only a few of seventeen weeks. If they were
had a schedule like baseball, it would be even more
ridiculous than the money. They're good lord, right, that would
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be a travisty. Right, But you can't get enough people
to play. But Ephraim, here's my issue. And I know
you were a part of the Players Union, correct, But
I mean I don't mean like just as a member.
But didn't you like participate Yes, okay, of course you participate.
And I thought, I think the Players Union is the
worst freaking union in the history of the United States.
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The Players Union, because they have been bent over more
times than I'm willing to even admit. And every time
the NFL comes calling, the players easily have all the power,
all the juice. Because all you got to do, Ephrom,
to get the NFL to pay attention and to come
to the table and work with you is stop the game,
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stop the money, trained stop it, and then they'll understand
that you're serious, and you're not going to allow them
to work you over like a burger and fries, which
is what they've done time and time again.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
All Right, Look, the one thing we've known for years
and even when I played and all of that, the NFLPA.
The most glaring thing for me, And when you talk
about organizations have having the player's best interest at heart,
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the number one thing that sticks out to me is
the lack of healthcare, lifetime healthcare for NFL players the
most Whose fault is that? That's our fault, that's that's
the players, that's the players players union fault.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Because the problem is when you're a current player and
you're playing and you've had health insurance, great health insurance.
Actually since you've been in the league, so twenty one,
twenty three years old, you've had health insurance. Everything's going great.
That's all you see. That's all you see. The problem
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with that is five years after a player retires, that's
when their healthcare runs out from when you need it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Who needs healthcare? Five years after everybody? But what that right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know what I'm saying that it runs out at that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Runs out, you get a letter, you get a letter.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You're on your own. You got to you got to
breakure out.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You get you get your cobra for however long that
last call it cobra for a reason.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It will bite you.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It'll wheeze the life out of you when you see
those payments.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
But those payments are crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But what happens is you have to now go and
find out a way to get healthcare, which I didn't
know at the time this happened to me, you know,
about a decade ago or whatever, and I was.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like, I don't know what I don't I don't know
how to go get healthcare.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I've had it my whole life since I've been an adults,
since I've been in in the in the NFL. And
that takes me back to the NFLPA and fighting and
wanting this talking about, yeah, the eighteenth game is a possibility,
and so on and so forth. I would say this
to the representatives, to the heads of the NFLPA, to
all the current players. If you don't start the negotiation
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for an eighteenth game with lifetime health benefits for all
players who are vested, we're not even talking and started
there to be vested three and a half years, which
is what with three three? That's what you're three, not ten.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The average life expectancy, God should say careers three and
a half season, that's it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So that's what being fully vested has to be. Three
and a half three.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You got to be on the active roster essentially four years,
but you get three three. If you're on the active
roster for three years, you get that year right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Very easily.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The NFL Players Association could have healthcare and guarantee contracts tomorrow.
You hear me tomorrow from not twenty years from now.
Stop the money train. Stop letting these owners do this
to you. And and they have figured out a great system,
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which is sixty percent of the players are those guys
who are afraid to miss a pacheck, so that those
are guys, right, So they make those guys the majority,
and then the other guys who have the big contract
and the long term and play ten or twelve years,
they're the minority. So those are the guys who really
want it right, who make all that money, but the
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other guys don't want to miss a pay check.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Here's what baseball did to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Where you have the inequities of people making money from
the union has a war chess Baseball players, they strike
or whatever it is, they walk out. Ephraim comes to
them and says, here's my mortgage, here's my bills.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Guess what the union does. They pay your bills. Pay
your bills till the counts.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, it's simple you as a player, are you gonna
bellyate with the union if they're paying all your bills
and they say to you, once you get your money back,
you take it and put.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It back into the war chests for the next group
of players. It's so simple.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It's simple.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And look, if you're trying to add another game, which
also is now adding risk of more injury, which also
adds the risk of longer term injury. When you need
health care, it's convenient that around thirty five, forty years old,
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you no longer have it. The league is no longer
paying for it, and they've tried to subsidize that with
the NFL Hospital network where.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
They make too much money, too much.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's too much money not to have full health benefits
for you and your family for the duration of your life.
To me, it doesn't make sense for someone who played
for thirteen years and one hundred and fifty nine games
and not eight surgeries, two torn labrams, broken hands, herniated
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disk in my back soon coming up on two knee
replacements for someone who just I just listed and.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Just me.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So when you don't, that's that's coming out of my pocket.
And we have a reimbursement situation where you got to
pay it and then if they deem it, okay, they'll
pay it. It shouldn't even have to get to that.
It shouldn't even be that you should be locked in
on insurance. Thank god for the writer's guild. Thank god
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that I was smart enough to dive in to another
profession where they had a strong guild. I have excellent
health care for my family, and I guess how much
it costs for me to ensure my dependent Please tell
me one hundred and fifty dollars a year. But that's
because they got this. This is the that's what it is.
This is real life, right okay, So for me, back
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to eighteen games. If you want eighteen games, okay, owners,
we'll give you eighteen games. We know the type of
revenue each game generates. But what we want from you,
and what we're going to start with is lifetime health
care for all that are vested in the NFL. Come
back to us when you guys are ready to negotiate.
That would be my That's would be my stance.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And that would be the correct stance.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But the NFL players, as strong as they are, they're very,
very weak, uh, when it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This, because they come in and they say, do you
guys want higher salaries? Who's gonna say no to that.
Who's gonna say we don't want higher salaries when you're
currently playing. We heard the reddit, We heard it. You
guys would well, you know, what do you guys want?
You guys want more salary. You guys want less training
camp practices, you guys want all.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That those The last one was smoke weed. We won't
test for for weed. Everybody signs that, but they don't
want health camp.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
What do you think you're smoking the weed for? Here?
We got migraines, but you're smoking the weed for it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Can I give you this?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Please give it to me.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
As of February twenty twenty three, major League baseball players
qualify for health insurance after play how many games in
the major leagues?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
From one you know it, I know it, one, I
know it, one game.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One you make it to the big league.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You play one game, you lifetime locked him for lifetile
healthcare and forty three days ready, forty three days as
a big leaguer for the pension?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Forty three? What are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is crazy? Okay, guess who guess what league makes
more money?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Crazy, right, But they guess what league makes more money?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
But they don't want to share it with the players
because why But what did the baseball players do?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They stopped the World Series?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Get you ain't doing it?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The World Series have been played for one hundred years.
Oh no, no, we're out on the World Series.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Basketball has that same level of leadership in terms of
player driven leagues as well. Right when they wanted Donald
Sterling out, there was like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes, dude, you're out tomorrow, You're out.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
This is not gonna be next week. This is now.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We ain't nobody playing if he's not out. They made
a decision, they voted he had to sell the team.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
NFL. They come on day one and they all hold hands.
Remember that the paid disparent discrepancy between the stars and
so is so big, so big.
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Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right from let's talk.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
About your team, and we all know your big los
Anglelees Lakers fan and Lebron has had the bailout team
USA A D A d's played well right so far
right in these preseason exhibition whatever you want to call
these games, the Lakers, I'm saying that team USA.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, no, no, no, I'm gonna talk but how in
the world can those guys that the Lebron's the best player.
That's what the players are saying.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Uh, he's the best player on the US, say team
at thirty nine in counting.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Ad has also been great. He's a great player.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But why do the Lakers need to play in in
order to get into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
What those two guys aren't enough.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I'm gonna explain to you why the USA team considers
Lebron James the best player on the team and he's
playing like it. They lose the last two games without
Lebron James. That's a fact. The reason is the top
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three vote getters for MVP of the NBA are all
playing in the Olympics. Well not even Luca's not even
playing in the Olympics. They didn't even make it. They're
all playing for their countries, which is not the United States.
That's the difference. The joker right in my opinion, in
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the four time MVP right the last four years, Yiannis,
think about it, all of these players that have one MVP,
they're all they're not from the US. Like normally, all
those guys would be on the US team and we
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would be steamrolling player teams.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
But the world has gotten better.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yes, although Lebron is thirty nine and he's the
best player on the on the US team, when it
comes to the season, and you know the top players
in the NBA, if Lebron's in the top five, the
top four are playing for other teams, other countries because
they're not from the US.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So and so you need a team, you need guys
to be healthy, a d and the Bron alone on it,
it's just not enough anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
It's just it's not enough, and I wish it was.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I've said this Lebron.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Despite the numbers, people look at him and think they're
the same numbers of ten years ago. It's not the
same instact numbers, right, right. The numbers a liability, right,
he's not.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Ron James defensively is a liarbout an inch of defense
because he.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Picks and chooses.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Now, you can still see the rundowns everyone down the
box and all that, But when you're in the half
court and I've watched it, it's driven me crazy. I've
watched it on TV. I've been live, I've sat right down.
I'm screaming at him. He will lose his man. He
will not follow his man through. He'll send he'll stay
and and he'll if his man cuts through, he'll send
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somebody else there. And in that miscommunication backdoor dunk, we watch.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
The different nuggets do it to him?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Who you think was gardon Eric Gordon on baseline dunks
in in game above and it was.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But what I love though, is he always looks like
if they had another play, he'll be.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Looking like, yeah, he does it every single time. Put
the hands on the head, like, no, that was your guy.
What what what? What part don't you get? That was
your guy?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And although he is a dynamic basketball player and still
playing at a high clip, the thing that really set
Lebron apart was he can give you that.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
For forty minutes both ends of the court.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And that and that's one. It's one end of the court.
And here's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The numbers will still look great, but it's easier to
score than ever before.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So even that part.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You kind of three phooter from three.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So there's a little bit you think, oh, these are
the same exact numbers than when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And it's not the defensive like the defensive intensity. When
the Lakers were hold defensively, they were a tough team.
They were a tough out. Cam Reddish, Vanderbilt, Troy Vinson,
all of the Christian Woods, all of these. None of
these guys were available during the playoffs, all right, the
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play and they weren't available. Those are the three and
D guys you need to pair up with two superstars
and Lebron and Ad to really make a difference. And
then you you know, you draw the short straw and
you take the one team in the West that no
one thought you could beat, including yourselves in the Denver Nuggets.
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If that's anybody else in the first round, we're having
a different conversation. We saw it last year when they
went the year before last when they went all the
way to the Western Conference finals because the matchups worked
out for him, you know, exactly right. And the NBA
is about matchupst talk about it, not just team matchups,
but player matchups as well.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So, look, who's going to guard that guy?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And if you don't have an answer for him, then
they're going to kill you every single time until you
can figure out something or some other way to do it.
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Speaker 8 (18:03):
So on the current media rights deal, the WNBA receives
sixty million dollars a season from the NBA because again
they are zero subsidized by the NBA. With this new
television contract kicking in starting after this next season, that
number is being raised over three hundred percent. They're going
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to be receiving two hundred million dollars a year for
a total of two point two billion. Only problem is
the WNBA Players Association president and now Cheryl Miller are
unhappy about the massive raise.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Reporting about a two point two billion dollar media rights
deal out there. There's a rumor of it, reporting about
the next meeting.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's then if you I'm not great with numbers.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Low ball, why do you say that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That's a low ball? You're saying how much?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Two point two billion over all? Not enough, not even close. Now,
I'm not trying to inflate it a whole lot, but
it two's nice and eight would be better. That's what
I'm talking about, because they know, they know, and we
certainly have come a long way, and I'm not about gouging.
But it's a long time overdue and we're going to
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continue to get better and better. All you have to
do is look at you know, college basketball and what's
coming next, the next wave, the next wave of excitement.
And you have this now and pretty soon we're going
to add another gold medal. So women's basketball is in
a great place right now.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cheryl Miller, is this on? Stop it? Cheryl Miller, I
get it. You know you had the microphone. Somebody asked
you a question, so you decided. But what Cheryl Miller,
don't understand that before this year and katelynk the w
and WNBA stood for welfare.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Okay, that's what it stood for Ephraim.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And for years, for twenty nine years, they've been taking
the one hundred and sixty ounce box of frosted flakes
with no sugar on it and the government cheese from
the NBA as this league lost money.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Hand over fist, it lost money.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And now all of a sudden, a three hundred percent
increase ain't good enough. Sheryl Miller, stop it. I ain
got news for you. Kaitlin Clark is the Harlem Globe Trotters.
When she goes and plays, they show up in the
numbers of their They still getting five and six thousand
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at these other games where Caitlyn Clark is nowhere to
be seen.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They still aren't watching those games. So before you get.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Big and bad and tell us how great it is
even this year with Kate link Clark, these aren't Robert
Pedia numbers. These are from the Washington Post, the WNBA,
the welfare NBA, as i'll call it. It's scheduled to
lose fifty million.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Dollars this year. So Cheryl, you won an eight you
want eight billion?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Pay back all the money the last twenty nine years
that the NBA put in. If this was a real business,
he from this league would have been out of business
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Okay, if it was a real business.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well when And look, I'm not gonna go to so
far as to disrespect the WNBA calling the w welfare. Okay,
I'm not gonna be that. I'm not gonna be that guy.
I'm married, I got a wife at home, a woman
at home, Okay, Okay, But I will say this. I
think it's tremendous. I think the opportunity to increase player
salaries for the women of the WNBAH is a amazing
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Most of the women who start in the WNBA in
the offseason go play overseas so they could subsidize their income.
I allow the whole Britney grinnerd situation where you know,
she got in trouble and I prisoned in Russia because
she was going over to play because I.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Was her other team.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's only what she could make me play exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So I get that this increase and the two point
two billion dollars, I think at a three hundred percent
increase than what it was. I think it's tremendous. You're
absolutely right. Since ninety seven, the WNBA has been losing
ten million dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
A year.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
That the NBA has subsidized. This year, it's going to
be fifty million dollars. And some may be asking, well,
how is that possible when viewership and numbers are up.
It's because they now have chartered flights. My de expenses
have gone off. So each team, I believe the chartered
flights are about roughly twenty five I mean twenty five
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million dollars to charter all these flights or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's because the stock for Southwest went down, not at
the WY.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And so.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Business is business. Emotions are emotions, but numbers don't lie.
And that's the thing, right, So when you're dealing with
business and you're dealing with revenue and profit sharing and
all of those things, those numbers are pretty precise. Now,
having an increase of two point two billion dollars over
the next eleven years, I think it's tremendous. Having a
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two hundred million dollar boost every year for the WNBA,
I think it's tremendous. I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Strides.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
What I would say to a Cheryl Miller who was
a goat all right, an all time grade. I remember
when Cheryl was younger. Now, when it comes to math numbers,
she says she's not good with numbers. She said that,
and thank you for saying it. But that's what she said.
That's that's her. But I mean, I remember, this is
the first conversation whatever, Like, man, it's a woman who
can play in the NBA, and it was her, and
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so I respect her game and her knowledge of the game,
and it was awesome watching her coach in the All
Star Game. But the reality of the situation is we
have the w n B A has not been profitable
at all ever, and in order to get that two
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to an eight, you have to be profitable. Now, I
agree with what she's saying. We're all time high in
women's basketball, women's sports in general, the new crop of kids,
the jujus in college at all, all of all of that.
It's it's coming, right, it's coming. It's not here yet.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I get that, but it still doesn't translate. And I've
said this forever until women start going to w NBA
again game, well, yeah, that's what it's Okay, you don't
need the men. You don't need you don't even need
from need the men. Women take their kids, their husband
and their boyfriends to w NB your games.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You sell out, you watch the games. The bottom line.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Business, Okay, if you got the numbers, business will say what,
Oh they're watching.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh the building is sold out.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh the tickets are season tickets got snapped up in
three hours.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Dude, it's business.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
It happened in Indiana, but that's the only place it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Has, right, And that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You're looking at what Caitlyn Clark has done, and you're
trying to act like it's over.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The entire league.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's a perception of it, right, because we see her
play more than anybody else, We talk about her more
than anybody else. So the perception is, oh, this league,
this is hogh, Oh my god, it's booming. That's not
necessarily the case. She is a tremendous talent. I think
what her Ael Reese is doing, them being in the
(25:57):
All Star Game together, playing together. I think there are
awesome next correct steps for building this brand into uh,
something that is profitable, something that is going to grow
uh in the near future and keep going something that's
driving young girls to play and want to be great.
(26:18):
I think all of those are right, but to skip
so you're not You not only want a three hundred
increase in revenue isn't good and and and and uh
money isn't good enough? You want like a twelve hundred
you know, twelve hundred percent increase?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Which which is in business? It's unheard of?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Nobody Jon and Vin the iPhone?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right, not exactly, there was something that was never on
the planet before that that came into play under the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And disrespectful to to share because this is not but this.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Is not about her personally or about her ability to
play or where she stands in women's basketball. I'm telling
you her math is wrong, and I'm telling you that
they've been subsidized for almost thirty years. Okay, if this
was real business, Cheryl Miller, the league would have been
bordered up twenty five years ago. Like you open up
(27:18):
a business, eve from I own a barbershop in Detroit
twenty two years Like.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
If we weren't making money, you think we'd still be open?
Of course not?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Is that where you get your haircut. No, okay, good,
that's here in La. I need a haircut. I got
an apartment be quiety from. Don't take away from what
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You're making a great point, but that's what it comes
down to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And I don't know what math they're doing in the WNBA.
And they see the big contract right now they got
right now, and they think that they deserve the same
thing and they should be making the same salaries that
the NBA players are making.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Where's a while two hundred million dollar deal? What? What?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Look the fact that you can watch WNBA games regularly
on television this year, it's another big step right Like
they were on like YouTube, they were on like I mean,
I wouldn't even have known outside of one or two
games what the TV deal looked like for a wnbaa game.
(28:27):
Prior to this season.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I can remember I had four tickets to a Sparks game,
La Sparks game, and I was like, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I left them on my wind shield. I went inside
to a restaurant. I came back out and there were
eight tickets and a big chunk of government cheese.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I knew for a fact that wasn't going to wear
good all right, grac out of control,
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Speaker 1 (00:26):
Harker e from Let's Get started here and this is
right up your alley with football and all that other
kind of stuff in the NFL again, any chance they
get to make money off the players and put them
in harm's way And nobody wants this. Nobody needs an
eighteenth football game. Nobody needed a seventeenth football game. Okay,
(00:49):
but here's what fans don't understand. There's only one reason
why they want an eighteenth game and why they wanted
a seventh.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
They don't make any money off the x shibition games.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
They're local TV, they're not national, they're not a part
of the national deal. And when they go and make
these games real, the value is through the roof, of course.
So that's all.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
This is it's not about ah no, no, if they
could have thirty games and get enough players to play,
they would play thirty games. This is the problem with
Las Vegas and gambling on football. There's not enough inventory, right,
there's only a few of seventeen weeks. If they were
had a schedule like baseball, it would be even more
ridiculous than the money. They're good lord, right, that would
(01:33):
be a travisty. Right, But you can't get enough people
to play. But Ephraim, here's my issue. And I know
you were a part of the Players Union, correct, But
I mean I don't mean like just as a member.
But didn't you like participate Yes, okay, of course you participate.
And I thought, I think the Players Union is the
worst freaking union in the history of the United States.
(01:56):
The Players Union, because they have been bent over more
times than I'm willing to even admit. And every time
the NFL comes calling, the players easily have all the power,
all the juice. Because all you got to do, Ephrom,
to get the NFL to pay attention and to come
to the table and work with you is stop the game,
(02:18):
stop the money, trained stop it, and then they'll understand
that you're serious, and you're not going to allow them
to work you over like a burger and fries, which
is what they've done time and time again.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
All Right, Look, the one thing we've known for years
and even when I played and all of that, the NFLPA.
The most glaring thing for me, And when you talk
about organizations have having the player's best interest at heart,
(02:53):
the number one thing that sticks out to me is
the lack of healthcare, lifetime healthcare for NFL players the
most Whose fault is that? That's our fault, that's that's
the players, that's the players players union fault.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Because the problem is when you're a current player and
you're playing and you've had health insurance, great health insurance.
Actually since you've been in the league, so twenty one,
twenty three years old, you've had health insurance. Everything's going great.
That's all you see. That's all you see. The problem
(03:37):
with that is five years after a player retires, that's
when their healthcare runs out from when you need it.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Who needs healthcare? Five years after everybody? But what that right?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
You know what I'm saying that it runs out at that.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
Runs out, you get a letter, you get a letter.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You're on your own. You got to you got to
breakure out.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
You get you get your cobra for however long that
last call it cobra for a reason.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
It will bite you.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It'll wheeze the life out of you when you see
those payments.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
But those payments are crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But what happens is you have to now go and
find out a way to get healthcare, which I didn't
know at the time this happened to me, you know,
about a decade ago or whatever, and I was.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Like, I don't know what I don't I don't know
how to go get healthcare.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
I've had it my whole life since I've been an adults,
since I've been in in the in the NFL. And
that takes me back to the NFLPA and fighting and
wanting this talking about, yeah, the eighteenth game is a possibility,
and so on and so forth. I would say this
to the representatives, to the heads of the NFLPA, to
all the current players. If you don't start the negotiation
(04:51):
for an eighteenth game with lifetime health benefits for all
players who are vested, we're not even talking and started
there to be vested three and a half years, which
is what with three three? That's what you're three, not ten.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
The average life expectancy, God should say careers three and
a half season, that's it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
So that's what being fully vested has to be. Three
and a half three.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
You got to be on the active roster essentially four years,
but you get three three. If you're on the active
roster for three years, you get that year right.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Very easily.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
The NFL Players Association could have healthcare and guarantee contracts tomorrow.
You hear me tomorrow from not twenty years from now.
Stop the money train. Stop letting these owners do this
to you. And and they have figured out a great system,
(05:52):
which is sixty percent of the players are those guys
who are afraid to miss a pacheck, so that those
are guys, right, So they make those guys the majority,
and then the other guys who have the big contract
and the long term and play ten or twelve years,
they're the minority. So those are the guys who really
want it right, who make all that money, but the
(06:13):
other guys don't want to miss a pay check.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Here's what baseball did to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Where you have the inequities of people making money from
the union has a war chess Baseball players, they strike
or whatever it is, they walk out. Ephraim comes to
them and says, here's my mortgage, here's my bills.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
Guess what the union does. They pay your bills. Pay
your bills till the counts.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Okay, it's simple you as a player, are you gonna
bellyate with the union if they're paying all your bills
and they say to you, once you get your money back,
you take it and put.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It back into the war chests for the next group
of players. It's so simple.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
It's simple.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And look, if you're trying to add another game, which
also is now adding risk of more injury, which also
adds the risk of longer term injury. When you need
health care, it's convenient that around thirty five, forty years old,
(07:15):
you no longer have it. The league is no longer
paying for it, and they've tried to subsidize that with
the NFL Hospital network where.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
They make too much money, too much.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
It's too much money not to have full health benefits
for you and your family for the duration of your life.
To me, it doesn't make sense for someone who played
for thirteen years and one hundred and fifty nine games
and not eight surgeries, two torn labrams, broken hands, herniated
(07:50):
disk in my back soon coming up on two knee
replacements for someone who just I just listed and.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
Just me.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So when you don't, that's that's coming out of my pocket.
And we have a reimbursement situation where you got to
pay it and then if they deem it, okay, they'll
pay it. It shouldn't even have to get to that.
It shouldn't even be that you should be locked in
on insurance. Thank god for the writer's guild. Thank god
(08:21):
that I was smart enough to dive in to another
profession where they had a strong guild. I have excellent
health care for my family, and I guess how much
it costs for me to ensure my dependent Please tell
me one hundred and fifty dollars a year. But that's
because they got this. This is the that's what it is.
This is real life, right okay, So for me, back
(08:44):
to eighteen games. If you want eighteen games, okay, owners,
we'll give you eighteen games. We know the type of
revenue each game generates. But what we want from you,
and what we're going to start with is lifetime health
care for all that are vested in the NFL. Come
back to us when you guys are ready to negotiate.
That would be my That's would be my stance.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
And that would be the correct stance.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
But the NFL players, as strong as they are, they're very,
very weak, uh, when it comes down to.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
This, because they come in and they say, do you
guys want higher salaries? Who's gonna say no to that.
Who's gonna say we don't want higher salaries when you're
currently playing. We heard the reddit, We heard it. You
guys would well, you know, what do you guys want?
You guys want more salary. You guys want less training
camp practices, you guys want all.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That those The last one was smoke weed. We won't
test for for weed. Everybody signs that, but they don't
want health camp.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
What do you think you're smoking the weed for? Here?
We got migraines, but you're smoking the weed for it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Can I give you this?
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Please give it to me.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
As of February twenty twenty three, major League baseball players
qualify for health insurance after play how many games in
the major leagues?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
From one you know it, I know it, one, I
know it, one game.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
One you make it to the big league.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
You play one game, you lifetime locked him for lifetile
healthcare and forty three days ready, forty three days as
a big leaguer for the pension?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Forty three? What are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
This is crazy? Okay, guess who guess what league makes
more money?
Speaker 2 (10:23):
No?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Crazy, right, But they guess what league makes more money?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
But they don't want to share it with the players
because why But what did the baseball players do?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
They stopped the World Series?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Get you ain't doing it?
Speaker 1 (10:34):
The World Series have been played for one hundred years.
Oh no, no, we're out on the World Series.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Basketball has that same level of leadership in terms of
player driven leagues as well. Right when they wanted Donald
Sterling out, there was like.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yes, dude, you're out tomorrow, You're out.
Speaker 5 (10:51):
This is not gonna be next week. This is now.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
We ain't nobody playing if he's not out. They made
a decision, they voted he had to sell the team.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
NFL. They come on day one and they all hold hands.
Remember that the paid disparent discrepancy between the stars and
so is so big, so big.
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Speaker 3 (12:26):
All right from let's talk.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
About your team, and we all know your big los
Anglelees Lakers fan and Lebron has had the bailout team
USA A D A d's played well right so far
right in these preseason exhibition whatever you want to call
these games, the Lakers, I'm saying that team USA.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, no, no, no, I'm gonna talk but how in
the world can those guys that the Lebron's the best player.
That's what the players are saying.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Uh, he's the best player on the US, say team
at thirty nine in counting.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Ad has also been great. He's a great player.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
But why do the Lakers need to play in in
order to get into the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (13:10):
What those two guys aren't enough.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I'm gonna explain to you why the USA team considers
Lebron James the best player on the team and he's
playing like it. They lose the last two games without
Lebron James. That's a fact. The reason is the top
(13:34):
three vote getters for MVP of the NBA are all
playing in the Olympics. Well not even Luca's not even
playing in the Olympics. They didn't even make it. They're
all playing for their countries, which is not the United States.
That's the difference. The joker right in my opinion, in
(14:00):
the four time MVP right the last four years, Yiannis,
think about it, all of these players that have one MVP,
they're all they're not from the US. Like normally, all
those guys would be on the US team and we
(14:23):
would be steamrolling player teams.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
But the world has gotten better.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
So yes, although Lebron is thirty nine and he's the
best player on the on the US team, when it
comes to the season, and you know the top players
in the NBA, if Lebron's in the top five, the
top four are playing for other teams, other countries because
they're not from the US.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So and so you need a team, you need guys
to be healthy, a d and the Bron alone on it,
it's just not enough anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
It's just it's not enough, and I wish it was.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I've said this Lebron.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Despite the numbers, people look at him and think they're
the same numbers of ten years ago. It's not the
same instact numbers, right, right. The numbers a liability, right,
he's not.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
Ron James defensively is a liarbout an inch of defense
because he.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Picks and chooses.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Now, you can still see the rundowns everyone down the
box and all that, But when you're in the half
court and I've watched it, it's driven me crazy. I've
watched it on TV. I've been live, I've sat right down.
I'm screaming at him. He will lose his man. He
will not follow his man through. He'll send he'll stay
and and he'll if his man cuts through, he'll send
(15:44):
somebody else there. And in that miscommunication backdoor dunk, we watch.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
The different nuggets do it to him?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Who you think was gardon Eric Gordon on baseline dunks
in in game above and it was.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
But what I love though, is he always looks like
if they had another play, he'll be.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Looking like, yeah, he does it every single time. Put
the hands on the head, like, no, that was your guy.
What what what? What part don't you get? That was
your guy?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
And although he is a dynamic basketball player and still
playing at a high clip, the thing that really set
Lebron apart was he can give you that.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
For forty minutes both ends of the court.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
And that and that's one. It's one end of the court.
And here's the other thing too.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
The numbers will still look great, but it's easier to
score than ever before.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So even that part.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You kind of three phooter from three.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So there's a little bit you think, oh, these are
the same exact numbers than when he was playing.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
And it's not the defensive like the defensive intensity. When
the Lakers were hold defensively, they were a tough team.
They were a tough out. Cam Reddish, Vanderbilt, Troy Vinson,
all of the Christian Woods, all of these. None of
these guys were available during the playoffs, all right, the
(17:05):
play and they weren't available. Those are the three and
D guys you need to pair up with two superstars
and Lebron and Ad to really make a difference. And
then you you know, you draw the short straw and
you take the one team in the West that no
one thought you could beat, including yourselves in the Denver Nuggets.
(17:25):
If that's anybody else in the first round, we're having
a different conversation. We saw it last year when they
went the year before last when they went all the
way to the Western Conference finals because the matchups worked
out for him, you know, exactly right. And the NBA
is about matchupst talk about it, not just team matchups,
but player matchups as well.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So, look, who's going to guard that guy?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
And if you don't have an answer for him, then
they're going to kill you every single time until you
can figure out something or some other way to do it.
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Speaker 8 (18:03):
So on the current media rights deal, the WNBA receives
sixty million dollars a season from the NBA because again
they are zero subsidized by the NBA. With this new
television contract kicking in starting after this next season, that
number is being raised over three hundred percent. They're going
(18:25):
to be receiving two hundred million dollars a year for
a total of two point two billion. Only problem is
the WNBA Players Association president and now Cheryl Miller are
unhappy about the massive raise.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
Reporting about a two point two billion dollar media rights
deal out there. There's a rumor of it, reporting about
the next meeting.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's then if you I'm not great with numbers.
Speaker 6 (18:55):
Low ball, why do you say that.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That's a low ball? You're saying how much?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
Two point two billion over all? Not enough, not even close. Now,
I'm not trying to inflate it a whole lot, but
it two's nice and eight would be better. That's what
I'm talking about, because they know, they know, and we
certainly have come a long way, and I'm not about gouging.
But it's a long time overdue and we're going to
(19:21):
continue to get better and better. All you have to
do is look at you know, college basketball and what's
coming next, the next wave, the next wave of excitement.
And you have this now and pretty soon we're going
to add another gold medal. So women's basketball is in
a great place right now.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Cheryl Miller, is this on? Stop it? Cheryl Miller, I
get it. You know you had the microphone. Somebody asked
you a question, so you decided. But what Cheryl Miller,
don't understand that before this year and katelynk the w
and WNBA stood for welfare.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Okay, that's what it stood for Ephraim.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And for years, for twenty nine years, they've been taking
the one hundred and sixty ounce box of frosted flakes
with no sugar on it and the government cheese from
the NBA as this league lost money.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Hand over fist, it lost money.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And now all of a sudden, a three hundred percent
increase ain't good enough. Sheryl Miller, stop it. I ain
got news for you. Kaitlin Clark is the Harlem Globe Trotters.
When she goes and plays, they show up in the
numbers of their They still getting five and six thousand
(20:48):
at these other games where Caitlyn Clark is nowhere to
be seen.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
They still aren't watching those games. So before you get.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Big and bad and tell us how great it is
even this year with Kate link Clark, these aren't Robert
Pedia numbers. These are from the Washington Post, the WNBA,
the welfare NBA, as i'll call it. It's scheduled to
lose fifty million.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Dollars this year. So Cheryl, you won an eight you
want eight billion?
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Pay back all the money the last twenty nine years
that the NBA put in. If this was a real business,
he from this league would have been out of business
twenty five years ago.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Okay, if it was a real business.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well when And look, I'm not gonna go to so
far as to disrespect the WNBA calling the w welfare. Okay,
I'm not gonna be that. I'm not gonna be that guy.
I'm married, I got a wife at home, a woman
at home, Okay, Okay, But I will say this. I
think it's tremendous. I think the opportunity to increase player
salaries for the women of the WNBAH is a amazing
(22:00):
Most of the women who start in the WNBA in
the offseason go play overseas so they could subsidize their income.
I allow the whole Britney grinnerd situation where you know,
she got in trouble and I prisoned in Russia because
she was going over to play because I.
Speaker 5 (22:15):
Was her other team.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
That's only what she could make me play exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So I get that this increase and the two point
two billion dollars, I think at a three hundred percent
increase than what it was. I think it's tremendous. You're
absolutely right. Since ninety seven, the WNBA has been losing
ten million dollars.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
A year.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
That the NBA has subsidized. This year, it's going to
be fifty million dollars. And some may be asking, well,
how is that possible when viewership and numbers are up.
It's because they now have chartered flights. My de expenses
have gone off. So each team, I believe the chartered
flights are about roughly twenty five I mean twenty five
(22:58):
million dollars to charter all these flights or something like that.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
That's because the stock for Southwest went down, not at
the WY.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
And so.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Business is business. Emotions are emotions, but numbers don't lie.
And that's the thing, right, So when you're dealing with
business and you're dealing with revenue and profit sharing and
all of those things, those numbers are pretty precise. Now,
having an increase of two point two billion dollars over
the next eleven years, I think it's tremendous. Having a
(23:31):
two hundred million dollar boost every year for the WNBA,
I think it's tremendous. I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Strides.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
What I would say to a Cheryl Miller who was
a goat all right, an all time grade. I remember
when Cheryl was younger. Now, when it comes to math numbers,
she says she's not good with numbers. She said that,
and thank you for saying it. But that's what she said.
That's that's her. But I mean, I remember, this is
the first conversation whatever, Like, man, it's a woman who
can play in the NBA, and it was her, and
(24:00):
so I respect her game and her knowledge of the game,
and it was awesome watching her coach in the All
Star Game. But the reality of the situation is we
have the w n B A has not been profitable
at all ever, and in order to get that two
(24:21):
to an eight, you have to be profitable. Now, I
agree with what she's saying. We're all time high in
women's basketball, women's sports in general, the new crop of kids,
the jujus in college at all, all of all of that.
It's it's coming, right, it's coming. It's not here yet.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
I get that, but it still doesn't translate. And I've
said this forever until women start going to w NBA
again game, well, yeah, that's what it's Okay, you don't
need the men. You don't need you don't even need
from need the men. Women take their kids, their husband
and their boyfriends to w NB your games.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
You sell out, you watch the games. The bottom line.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Business, Okay, if you got the numbers, business will say what,
Oh they're watching.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Oh the building is sold out.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Oh the tickets are season tickets got snapped up in
three hours.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Dude, it's business.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
It happened in Indiana, but that's the only place it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Has, right, And that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
You're looking at what Caitlyn Clark has done, and you're
trying to act like it's over.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
The entire league.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
It's not. It's not.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
That's a perception of it, right, because we see her
play more than anybody else, We talk about her more
than anybody else. So the perception is, oh, this league,
this is hogh, Oh my god, it's booming. That's not
necessarily the case. She is a tremendous talent. I think
what her Ael Reese is doing, them being in the
(25:57):
All Star Game together, playing together. I think there are
awesome next correct steps for building this brand into uh,
something that is profitable, something that is going to grow
uh in the near future and keep going something that's
driving young girls to play and want to be great.
(26:18):
I think all of those are right, but to skip
so you're not You not only want a three hundred
increase in revenue isn't good and and and and uh
money isn't good enough? You want like a twelve hundred
you know, twelve hundred percent increase?
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Like?
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Which which is in business? It's unheard of?
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Nobody Jon and Vin the iPhone?
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Right, not exactly, there was something that was never on
the planet before that that came into play under the WNBA.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And disrespectful to to share because this is not but this.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Is not about her personally or about her ability to
play or where she stands in women's basketball. I'm telling
you her math is wrong, and I'm telling you that
they've been subsidized for almost thirty years. Okay, if this
was real business, Cheryl Miller, the league would have been
bordered up twenty five years ago. Like you open up
(27:18):
a business, eve from I own a barbershop in Detroit
twenty two years Like.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
If we weren't making money, you think we'd still be open?
Of course not?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Is that where you get your haircut. No, okay, good,
that's here in La. I need a haircut. I got
an apartment be quiety from. Don't take away from what
I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
You're making a great point, but that's what it comes
down to.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And I don't know what math they're doing in the WNBA.
And they see the big contract right now they got
right now, and they think that they deserve the same
thing and they should be making the same salaries that
the NBA players are making.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Where's a while two hundred million dollar deal? What? What?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:03):
Look the fact that you can watch WNBA games regularly
on television this year, it's another big step right Like
they were on like YouTube, they were on like I mean,
I wouldn't even have known outside of one or two
games what the TV deal looked like for a wnbaa game.
(28:27):
Prior to this season.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I can remember I had four tickets to a Sparks game,
La Sparks game, and I was like, I'm not going.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
I left them on my wind shield. I went inside
to a restaurant. I came back out and there were
eight tickets and a big chunk of government cheese.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
I knew for a fact that wasn't going to wear
good all right, grac out of control,
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