August 9, 2024 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Veejay Huskey are in for Chris and Rob, and the guys explain why Jayson Tatum getting benched during the Olympics isn’t as blasphemous as it sounds, tell us why they believe Jerry Jones is botching the Dallas Cowboys’ ongoing negotiations with his three best players (Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb and Micah Parsons) and discuss Justin Fields' ongoing audition to become the QB1 for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:30):
You asked me how I was doing just now you
know what. Apparently I'm doing better than Jason Tatum's mom.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
She is upset. Yeah, she's pretty upset. She is upset.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Dick Fie Towel tweeted and said, Hey, is anybody know
if Jason Tatum is hurt because he can't seem to
get up off the bench. That's not a direct quote,
but you get the gist. Jason, I mean Jason Tatum's
mom replied, No, he's not. But when you find out
what's going on, please let me know. It's unacceptable and
it makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
VJ. Is Jason Tatum being done a grievous wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Here by Steve Kerr and the Powers that be a
Team USA by plastering his ass to the bench.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I don't think he's being done wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I just think he's being mismanaged and miscoached with this team.
But I can go back to four weeks ago, five
weeks ago, six weeks ago on our show Martin and VJ,
when we talked about this team when it was first
put together, and I just didn't like a lot of the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Pieces on this team.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
And can I just say this and I'll ask, I'll
reference in a question. I'll propose it to you in
the question, has this not been one of the more
kind of uneventful feels like USA basketball teams of recent history?
It just it feels I'm where's where's the flash? Where's
the start? Yeah, they got star power, but where where
(01:50):
is it? It feels it feels like I don't know,
it's just something's missing.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I can't get into it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And I've watched every game, I've watched every drip, I've
watched every show, I've watch the games, and I'm waiting
for a moment. Steph kind of gave us a little moment.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You mean you mean to tell me that you weren't
into what happened in the fourth quarter of that Serbia game.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I knew we even down seventeen.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'm sitting there with a high school coach, colleague of man,
and I said, they'll come back and win.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I said, just they'll come. They'll come, They'll come back
and win. I feel you that Servia is not going
to win this game.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The only time I really had worry and concern was
when they came out at the end of the third
at started the third quarter, US came out with a
punch and Serbia just ate it. And it was like,
I was like, oh, wait a minute, this might be
an issue, but that was really it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
But do you mean to tell me, though, when you
were watching.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Lebron, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant in that fourth quarter,
you didn't get goose.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Pimples on your arm?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, because that's honestly what I expect out of them three.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Like I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you. I'm
just telling you the real bro. It's I expect this team.
You said twenty, I thought about fifteen sixteen as far
as margin of victory they would average by winning in
this entire tournament.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That's what's happening. That's what's happening.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I thought about fifteen sixty and you're like, oh, no,
it's gonna be twenty all right, Cool, they're all tracked
for twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So no, I know. It doesn't it doesn't feel.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
It doesn't feel as if anybody in this tournament has
a shot in hell, because at the end of the day,
you talk about those three guys you just named, those
are championships, those are Envy, multiple championships, multiple MVPs. They're
the three of the last general of this generation. Those
three guys KD, Lebron and Steph they're the last of
(03:34):
this generation. And now we're looking towards Tatum and now
Anthony Edwards and some of the you know, some of
the other younger names. Victor Winbin Yama is gonna be
a guy. It's like, I'm watching this game. No I'm
not getting it. She's like, yeah, I expect you're Lebron,
you're Stephan, you're Durant. Three guys that have what's that
nine champion ten championship was four four four and two, yeah,
(03:55):
ten championship four two, yeah, ten, that's ten championships right there.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And then I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Watching and yeah, dude, yeah, they got a joker. Yeah,
they got demand, but they don't have anything else that's
sustainable for them to actually make me think the other
day watching that game, man Usa, Mike, I'm watching, I'm
watching Twitter, and I'm like, heded, they're sucking people.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They're not gonna lose this game. We have the three
best players in the tournament. I tell you those three
guys absolutely true. But I was sitting on the edge
of my seat. I'm yelling at Jeef Kirk. I feel
like me in the entire world were like, yo, we
gotta get a stop here. Hey love Dwayne Wade on
the broadcast like being Homers like this is when I
felt like I was watching my local broadcast.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's what I wanted out of this situation.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But let's get back to Jason Tatum not playing in
this game, all right, So, at any point in the
second half, did you think to yourself, you know what
the United States needs to fix this kind of third
quarter slump that they're in. Jason Tatum, at any point
in the second half, did you think that?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Neither did I.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
No, as he was sitting on the bench. No, when
he got there. Listen, the benching of the first game
was the thing. It was a sign of things to
come because Steve Kerr has to come out and do
a press conference or an interview or whatever you want
to call it, and said that that was an idiot
and do all these you know, all these you know
word salad stuff going, and then Jason Tatum gets some burn.
But let's get real, go back and put the tape on.
(05:21):
Has Jason Tatum looked good? Has Jason Tatum been dominant
at any point? Has Jason Tatum taken over any of
these games?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And that's not to knock Jason tatums my next point,
it's not to knock him. It's just like, bro, you
did just go through a Halaysia season and go through
an Okay Finals until the close out game when you
hit a thirty burger plus and you grabbed ten plus
boards and really solidified yourself as hey, I'm a champion,
I'm here.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And to that point played more games than anybody. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I thought Jason Tatum probably should have took this off.
You're gonna be a eligible in twenty eight here in
La in America, in America, on American soil. So just
sometimes it's okay to want to go do something doesn't
mean you should always go do it. And this is
starting to look like and that stronomical mistake. And honestly,
on two people's part, Jason Tatum for even going and
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what Steve Kerr is doing, I'm starting.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
To lean a little your way.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'm not fire him like you and Hartman are, but
I am kind of like, all right, Kurr, Like what's
going Like, what's really going on? I don't believe it's
a Warrior Celtic, even though you know how sports does
play human emotion sometimes, But at the end of the day,
I just think it's just too many guys on this
team that does what Tatum does so and.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He was just a misfit probably for this team.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My thing was this because Dick Vital tweeted and said,
you know, he's an All NBA player. Guess what, so
is half the team excited Tatum made All NBA kd A,
d Anthony ed Wards, Tyree Talibert, and Lebron James, Steph Curry,
Devin Booker, all of them.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's the all NBA lineup.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Of that lineup, right, of that lineup, you know who
closed the game for the team, say Lebron, Steph Devin
Booker and then Kevin Durant and the only one who's
not on this list was not Elvis be All NBA,
and he probably would have been in. Joel Embiid probably
would have been in that first team All NBA spot
and sorry, Demantus Simonis, you probably would have got bumped
(07:16):
off the third team because at would have been a
second team all of All NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And they could have left Embid at home. They could
have left Embiat on this team.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He's been playing a lot better. I don't he played
a lot better and he really looked. Look they got
him for really, let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
One reason.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That one reason was Serbia and he went showed out
against in Serbia.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That I don't mind.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
But I still feel like without okay, so I'll ask
you this, without Embiid, do they win today or excuse
me not today, but do they win the Serbia the
Serbia game? I think so, right, I think because Jokich
is gonna do what he does. Yes, you had an
extra big body out there. But once again, when you're
talking the way Steph came out, it's like, okay, here
we go. Because I felt like Steph was kind of
relegated to almost standing around the earlier part of this
(08:00):
tournament playing because there's so many ball dominant guys on
this team. Like Lebron needs the ball, then Duran Durant
can move a little more freely. But STEP's a point guard,
like Devin Booker needs the ball. Holliday is gonna bring nobody.
He's the point guard. He's gonna bring the ball. There's
a lot of ball dominant guys on this team, and
you just don't. I just think Tatum is just to
(08:21):
the point now where and I believe Kurz quote was
it's not even a you know, a personal thing or mismanagement.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It's just the fact that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
KD is so much more in the fold right now,
who's better KD or Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's Kevin Durant.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So I'm gonna play Kevin Durant, especially for Jason Tatum
the point especially now, Like if you say over the
span of an NBA season, it's a different conversation, absolutely,
because it's a vastly different scenario. You're not playing back
to backs in the Olympics, You're not playing three games
in four were talking for six six games, right, You're
not the Olympics six game periods, and when you get
a day off in between every single one of them,
(08:55):
you're not traveling, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The only thing you can really even think about comparing
it to is the bubble, right except you get you
get to move freely and do whatever you want, you
know what I'm saying, as long as you're you know,
available for the game time.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And not even really.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
You know, with the Olympics, a lot of these you know, athletes,
they when they after they perform. I know we will
get them at the women's all Around gymnastics final, and
some people show up to things like that, but a
lot of these athletes do head right back to Olympic village, man,
and go get dress and go.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They're not out are running? Yeah, I just said exactly
that said the main thing. But I just don't know, Like,
at no point in the fourth quarter was like, oh man,
you know what, you gotta get Jason Tatum in this game.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You gotta get j T in this game. Steeve Kirk,
what are you doing? Why is it JT playing? Now?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I do ride with is my dukes though no am
I supposed to? Hey, what's up with my son, a
champion who's not playing. What's going on? So I do
ride with my dukes on that. I completely understand why
Jason Tatum is upset. I completely understand why Jason Tatum's
mom is upset. I completely do not understand why it
seems like everybody on social media is upset about this,
(10:03):
like somebody had to sit.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You can play five at a time.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Asked Haliburt, how's his playing time been going?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
If you think he's just saying, I ask him, how's
his playing tom been going? Which is the funniest thing
about this to all of you, because I'm sorry, I'm
old enough to remember when it was Jason Tatem and
Tyres Taliburt head up in the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah,
exactly two or three ones away from being in the
NBA Finals. Yeah, I'm not saying that they're nearly the
(10:31):
same statue of player, but still, if we're keeping everything.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Consistent, we're keeping score like we're keeping score.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was in the Eastern Conference finals, took a six
seed on the run and it was an All Star
you know, it was like the guy in the All
Star Game, and then in the end season tournament as well.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Also to it rubs off on this. Also, a backstory
that's kind of gone away is Jalen Brown. That's something
else that kind of rubs off on this too, because
it's like, Okay, you did you You had a chance
to put Jalen Brown on his team multiple times and
you didn't. I do so you put his teammate on
the team, and he is staple the true exactly right
(11:07):
right right, I mean in white and White's like doing
the European style basketball thing. He he fits for what
they're trying to do in the Olympics. He fits what
they're trying to do in the NBA also. But he
is a guy that you can that could go.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Overseas and have a very success Yeah, he could go
overseas and have a very high level, successful overseas career.
He's not going to be a guy over there at
the end of his career trying to just get some
last paychecks in No, he'll go over there and be
Trajan Langdon. If you guys remember when Trajan Langdon left
the Cleveland Cavaliers and went overseas.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
He was over I believe in a Spanish league. He
won MVP and won a championship, like he was one
of the better players over there in the European League.
It was either French League or Spanish League, but he
was still had game left in him.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think that would be the same way.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
But with Tatum, it's just to the point right now, man,
it is what it is, and Tatum's just got it. It
sucks because he's got to kind of just eat this
and sit Saturday. I don't think he plays a lot
tomorrow against France. You know, if you haven't been playing,
I don't think you played a lot tomrow against France.
Collect your gold medal, standing on the podium with your guys,
put the drape the flag over you and shed a tear,
(12:12):
which I won't think he'll do. But and then pack
your bags, man, and then go home and just enjoy
the rest of off season. And it's a quick turnaround.
NBA training camp start what about two and a half
three weeks, man, like what early September, middle September?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Here soon, I mean in a month's Ye're right back
in Boston trying to defend a championship, So I would
focus on that.
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Speaker 3 (13:12):
I said, this team is stuck in nineteen seventy and
it's because their owner maybe as old as hell. But
I don't think I don't know if Jerry Jones aware
you think that the salary cap exists of being sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Obviously, I know he's aware of it, but it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Seems like, look, Jerry, you can't just go out there
and spend whatever you want to spend whatever you want
to spend it anymore. There's penalties of punishments for that.
I'm not sure he understands that.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Alex.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Let's hear what Jerry had to say about the CD
Lamb deal that is impending.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I went to oscool or I went to college.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know why I say it, but I'm just
saying I don't. I don't have a sense urging it
about getting it, Dune, any reason you won't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So he went to high school, he went to college.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Jack check confirmed on full counts right, not having urgency
to sign C.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
D Lamb though, should there be a check there as well? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay, we know what the high school, we know what's college.
Should he be urgent right now to sign CD Lamb? No,
absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
There's two players you got to take care of before
CD Lamb, and you can go in either order. I
told you a few weeks ago, maybe about over a
month ago, I wouldn't play with Michael Parsons with this.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I wouldn't. He he's a game wrecker.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But he's a game to cut you up. Has been
at trendy camp, has been practicing. I get it, and
that's why I would do.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I would get him done for So your question about Brandon,
I you now ceedee Lamb did last year. I know
everybody written because I have him on top ten. He
crabbed my top ten this year's fast top ten receivers.
Fine recept you can you could find if you look
at the receivers, the top guys that are paid CDs
at three point five, like you know, Jefferson Brown, Brown, Hill, Waddle,
(14:56):
More Adams, Coop, Devonte, Nico Metcalf, Deebo Pittman, They're they're receivers.
You can find receivers. You just can't find Michael Parsons.
They those guys are far and few in between. Ceedee
Lamb is a really good to great receiver. I don't
think he's a game changeing receiver. I think he's a
really good to great receiver. I think that's a fair assessment.
(15:19):
Michael Parsons is a game record. He will wreck everything
you're trying to do on that side of the football.
You can't just find guys like that. Him or dak
Is who I would take care first because I know
there's this thing of letting that test free agency and go.
I don't have a problem with that. You just logically
have to tell me what's your plan. B. I said
(15:41):
this about Love, I said this about tour. If you
don't want to pay them, guys find the fans.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Don't think they need to be paid or people on
TV and radio don't think they need to be paid
or should be no problem.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You can have that, but you have must logically tell
me what's your plan B. So, if your Dallas is
at Cooper Rush, is it trade? Okay? If that's what
you're telling me. Answered the same.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Question though, lamb, Then who's Dallas's plan B at wide Receiver?
Because if you're telling me that they didn't do this
before the draft, okay cool. If you're telling me didn't
do this before the end of free agency, okay cool.
But right now we're in training camp, Like, where are
they gonna find plan B? If CD decides to hold
out or whole dinner?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Is you just do it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
He's a he's first of all, if they decide, if
he decides to hold out. I always look at holdouts
like this, that's on you. You're not hurting anybody at
the player but yourself. Now you may get your deal
and then it's like, yeah, it worked out. But if
they just say, okay, fine, go ahead and hold out,
we're gonna take care of either Dak or we're gonna
figure out this thing with Micah first. And if you
want to hold out, you'll be the one missing out,
(16:40):
and we could put you on the trademarket and trade
you if we wanted to. I'm pretty sure there's some
teams out there that will give us a return. And
we might miss you this year. That's fine, but we'll
go into the draft, or we'll go into free agency
next year. We'll find our receiver teams. Receivers falled off
trees in this league. That's just the way the game
is now. Because it's a passing league. You can find
receivers around the NFL to come in and do may
(17:02):
not put up CD numbers, but if you get two
guys that can put up CD numbers, I got my quarterback,
I got my game wrecking Rush in we have other
weapons on the field that could be that he's more
replaceable to me than I think Michael Parsons is or
even DAK. And I know people have their knocks against DAK,
but once again, if you're telling me you're gonna move
on from DAK because you don't want to pay Deck,
you will pay CD first. That you're telling me that
(17:24):
you believe it Cooper Rush or you believe it Trey
Lance and Trey Lance, you know, the top round, first
round pick for the Niners just set it off and
traded away because Brock Party came out of nowhere. So
and he's he's not gonna sniff the fiel. Probably for
Dallas again, Cooper Rush is the number two. So that's
why I think there's no rush to pay CD. My
question I would throw to you was did you think
(17:45):
he was joking or did you think he was serious?
Because he threw the laugh in there and everybody thought
it was joking.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I thought he was serious.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think he's serious, but also has an idea, you know,
the idea that Jerry Jones is the Carnival Barker free.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like he is.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He knows that he is like for lack of I
don't mean there's in a disparaging way, but the entertainment.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Oh no, like he's there to make people. Now he's
trying to make people. He's don king.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He's the NFL don king. He's trying to make people laugh.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
But I did that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I do think he's just showing with level of posture,
level of seriousness. Either way, it seems as if CD
Lamb took it seriously because he retweeted all the comments
with three simple letters lol, which was then retweeted, by
the way, but your boy, Michael, now, let me ask
you this, who do you pay first. I would have
paid DAK last year, thank you. I would have paid
(18:32):
CD last year.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I had have paid Dak and Michael last year, and
then you could have worked CD out this season. But
Jerry does this, He waits and it it never turns out.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Well.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I keep going back to the Zeke deal when he
pays Zeke first and then Zach believe was Zach Martin
and you pay. If you had paid Dak back then
when you should have, it wouldn't have been to forty million.
It was around like twenty nine to thirty. Then they
got up to thirty one, thirty two. Then eventually it
got the forty.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Because you waited. Let's think about this.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Think about dak Press got a forty million dollars. Yeah,
just think about that. You could have had dak Press
got forty million dollars. It was making forty million dollars
Daniel Jones puch for fifteen touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You could have had dak Press got forty million dollars
at one point time, and now you could have had
that Prescott for forty eight million dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know what I'm saying. Four years later, you know
what I'm saying, Think about that. Think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Now you're looking at the presspect of the prospect of
Dak Prescott at sixty.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Million, sixty million dollars, sixty million dollars. Once again, I
get what people say about it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh you think that would have came out talking about
fifty five if he had signed before Burrow and Lawrence
and Love.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No, no, what listen.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I just like I said, when his contract stuff first started,
it was a hovering between like twenty eight and thirty one,
thirty two, and Dallas was like, ooh, Dallas got scared off.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I'm like, no sign that. I sat on the odd
couple with Chris Bruce only eighty more offensive. I said, sign,
no sign that, don't sign Zeke. Zeke took off and
went the cowbo. Just trust me on this sign Dak. Now,
don't wait to sign.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Nope, you wanted to sign the guy, and that's what
made that so weird. Does you sign the guy that's
not there? I, as a GM and an owner, VP
of football operations all that stuff, I'm not signing the
guy that's not there. If I have other high level
players to take care of, they're there. Like you said
about Michael, Michael's been there, Michael has been practicing. Michael
hasn't made a sound, But Michaeh's doing this.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think smart, professionally and as a grown man thinking,
hey man, listen, I can ruffle feathers later. I want
my money, so let me let me go play nice
and let me do what I'm supposed to do and
be a professional, and let's go get this done.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
That's what Michael Parsons is doing.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
That's why I say, listen, between either him and Dak,
I still might pay Michael first. If it just came
down between who do you pay first, Micah or Dak,
I still might pay Michael first.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Is you have to pay Dak.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
This is like the way the order of operations has
to go, whether or not you want to or not.
Whether it's like all the things you said, I'm not
saying they're invalid. Because of the size of the quarterback contract.
You have to structure it in such a way that's
the one that has to get done first, because it's
the biggest piece of the pie. Then you can structure
the rest of the pie for Micah and CD. That's
(21:14):
why not signing Dak last year was just mismanagement. And
I don't think they're gonna sign Dak for the seasons.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I don't. I tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
If Dak Prescott and CD Lamb play on their current
contracts this year, neither one of them will be a
cowboy gone in the season. After they're gone, either one
of them will be because somebody will pay Dak.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
This idea that other teams these reports you get stuck.
Anonymous GM says that they wait and pay. Yeah, okay, yeah,
First of all, take anonymous out of and say it
with your chest. If you're gonna say it, that's number one,
number two when you getting those offices. Martin's got me
watching the Giants hard Knocks thing Electric. I've been dogging it,
isn't it. I've been dogging tail you what.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Time of night did you get a text message from me?
It was an ability of It was about one thirty
in the morning. I'm sitting on their short poor and
simp's some tequila watching this thing. I immediately text mart
I say, you know what, bruh, it's all good players
mess up.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
This is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
The intercals and the intricracies of them after the season
talking to these contracts.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
You know what, even about sa Quon that was like
the That was like the honestly, that was probably like
the weakest part of it. It was everything else stowed. Scouting,
the players, talking about all these other positions, having a
coordinator come in and then asking okay, what.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Do you want to run? What do you need?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And then the guys that break down the contracts, the
assistant GM, the scouting, the oh my goodness, it was outstanding.
But that part of it, when you're talking about these
contracts and you're talking about trying to get these deals done,
you've got to take care of who's there in my opinion,
and who acts like they want to be there. And
(22:50):
Dak Prescott wants to be there. But if, like you said,
you let Dak hit the market, these guys will give
them there. There's gonna be a GM that needs a quarterback.
You don't think, let's say, the Raiders won't just go
you know what, listen, let's just pay because we need
we need we need you.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You want to trade to happen? Been saying what does
it costs?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
There are teams out here, ladies and gentlemen, whether you
like Dak Prescott or not, they're gonna pay him.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
You guys thought to it wasn't gonna get paid. People
thought love shouldn't have get paid, and shouldn't have gotten
paid and wasn't gonna get paid. Yeah, you're That's why
we're not NFL owners in gms and VP of operations.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's why we don't have those positions.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
If you think you got your guy, my thing is
always just pay him now instead of paying them later.
Because if you let guys play too long on these deals,
you can have a player just say I'm gonna walk
away and feel disrespected. That wild hit the market. If
they don't get a deal done, that's gonna get a paycheck. Guys,
he's gonna get a big contract. Who knows if all
these rookies, let's say Drake May comes out. Hypothetically speaking,
(23:56):
let's say Drake May comes out and just you can
see it he ain't got it, or Jayden Daniels he
ain't got it. Now, we know these franchises won't move
off quickly. But if Dak's on the market and you're
one of these teams that drafted a rookie like we
saw with with a Desmond Ridder, right, you could see
within what seven eight games, this guy's not a starting
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NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And you see what they ended up doing going for two,
going for two guys well, and signing a guy older
than me with one less achilles than me and giving
him one hundred million dollars guarant guarantee, guarantee, and then
drafting a guy at number eight.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
That's how fast they moved off Desmon Ridder. So there's
teams that should have been a year prior. Yeah, your
point was definitely.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Pittsburgh quarterback, the kid that was a pitt that
they drafted, that they drafted and had their It's like, dude,
he can't play.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It is what it is, Zach Wilson, he can't play.
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Speaker 3 (24:58):
You've been sitting there li and dying with every snap
of the Dolphins Falcons preseason game on your iPad because
the NFL overlords that be won't let us just watch
all of them on television.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Right, you gotta go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Hey, NFL plus ID pay at fifteen dollars if you
want to see. But you know these are basically I mean,
I know you keep saying, and I don't mean to
offend your sensibilities, but these are not the football games
that we are used to seeing generally speaking, when we
talk about the football, right, you know, we're looking at backups.
(25:33):
Maybe how many of these guys are gonna make the rocks. Yeah,
there's what eighty five guys on the team right now,
so little under half will no longer be on set
team when it's all said and done.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
We're well familiar with the concept and.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Prospect of cutting players after watching years and years of
hard knocks, watching those guys on that last episode when
the music goes, and that's when you find out if
your fan favorite keeps the playbook or gets the trash
bag right. But what it is sometimes though the preseason,
(26:07):
while at dress rehearsal, it can sometimes be an audition. Yep,
and I think we're watching one right here right now,
with about three minutes left in a three minutes left
in the third quarter, as the use of Texas take
on the Pittsburgh Steelers and that is the audition of
one player who wears number one justin field, or.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Used to wear number one rather justin field. Yep. And
then I'm pulling for him.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I think he should be the starter in this situation,
if you got him there. I just think Russell Wilson
has just passed his time. And I said that two
years ago when Denver made the move to go get him.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But not a bad day.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But as Rob came in here, Rob g came in
doing one of the commercial braces and said, he's just
either up here or he's down there.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And it's very true. He's either up here or he's
down here.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I think being in Pittsburgh, they have such a great
coacher and a great coaching staff. If there's anybody who
I think can really this kid in and work with
him and turn it into the starter that I believe
he still can be.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think it is right there. Let's hear what Pittsburgh.
Let's hear what he did tonight justin fields.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Very efficient five of six for sixty seven yards eleven
point two yards per ten, which is great passer rating
of one thirteen. He also was sacked twice and fumble twice.
Just bottling the snap. It wasn't a bad snap, just
drop the snap.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
And he's just got to get used to that too, Robberg,
because he's a guy that you know, when he's at Ohio,
the state is RPO. Everything is so spread. Then nowadays,
it's really hard for you know, to bring a guy
into the NFL from college who's been taking snaps from
underneath the center all through college. You just don't see it.
That's no excuse for him. So you gotta you guys
been in the NFL for years now. Absolutely, And guess what.
(27:52):
In Chicago, they ran a lot of a shotgun RPL.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Because you're you're told to fit your your system around
your your quarter, right, you do what he does well
at But Pittsburgh is a power running team, right, You
had Najia Harris, You got some other guys there running football,
and it's there.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's their culture, it's their history.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
You think about the Steelers for the last forty fifty years, right, yeah,
Franko Harris, and then it goes there. If you guys
remember Barry Word who was a top rusher in his time,
going battling EMMITTT. Smith and Barry Sanders in the nineties
and then you had the bus, Jerome Bettis and then
you've had Le'Veon Bell. I'm missing somebody didn't look? Didn't
look Garrett Blunt go there and run and run well
for a season or for a moment there. So they
(28:30):
they want to run the football and be more physical.
The best way to do that, in my opinion in
football is to get underneath to send RPO. When I
watched teams run out of the RPO, I'm like, God,
you you don't understand the advantage you're giving the defense.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You really don't.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You don't get the advantage you're giving them by running
everything from the RPO position. So I'm pulling for him.
I think it's, you know, a decent night, but it
is an audition. Now he's been taking most of the
first team reps because Russ had the calf? Was it
a Russ had the Do you know how he heard
his ca No? Because I don't care, but go ahead.
You have to be as smart as but yeah. But
(29:04):
so Mike de Fabo we had on what was it Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It was Wednesday on the couple right as I was
feeling in for Rob Pittsburgh. She was beat writer for
the Athletic He says they were pushing a tackling slid.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
The conditioning coaches had Russell Wilson pushing a tackling slid,
and that's how he hurt his calf. Now I don't
know about that. No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't know about having Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I was about to ask you, when's the last time
he saw Russell Wilson on the lead block.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Oh uh ever, no, no, no, Wilson need to push
the tackling slip. Well, now, hold on, now, this is
also the same franchise that leaked that Justin Fields could
possibly return kick right, Okay, I was Jalen Warren on
a podcast. I think that's a little different.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Well, hey, listen, somebody said it to him and I
said that on our show.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Something he didn't just go. He also just might have
been talking after that.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, well, true, that happens with a lot of these
these uh these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
They careful with the podcast, but you know it was
out there.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Even if you're a teammate, why would you say that,
Why would you say that that Justin Fields could return?
Anybody think to put Mike Vick back at kick return
or or a Randall Cunningham at punt return.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
No, like that's not even something you say. But I
thought a decent audition tonight. He is auditioning. In my opinion,
this is not a four gone conclusion that this is
Russell Wilson's starting quarterback job. I think that this is
a legit audition, and I think that whoever is good
they think can take them into this season.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They're in a tough division. They're in a super tough division.
You're talking three teams that could possibly all make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Right, there's three teams out of this division that can
You got the Ravens, you got the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Joe Burrow's back, and you got Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
They get Deshaun back, and they were in the playoffs
last year without Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
So tough division. They got to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I was surprised to see him getting as much burn
as he was until it's like, oh no, no, the
thought set in, Oh no, they gotta see they gotta
get him out there.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Why would you play the third guy because Russell's not
gonna play to night, so you're not gonna play the
third guy till later. So you might as well play
the guy that's been getting the one reps, and that's
been Justin Phil.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So I'm happy with it.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I got a question for you, guys, because obviously you're
both pulling for Justin Field to get the starting job
there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Our Fox Sports Radio Weekend teammate Karmen Vitali said today
on First Things First that with Justin Fields in Chicago,
the issue there was there was no structure around him.
It was an unstable franchise, a lot of chaos. I mean,
he had to navigate through a really tough situation. Pittsburgh
is the exact opposite of that, very structured. They've been
(31:48):
doing things along the same way for a long time
and it's worked out well for them. But what Carmen said,
and this is I want to get your thoughts on,
is the fact that they're so structured is actually what
could end up being Justin Fields undoing because, as you
have mentioned, VJ, something as simple as taking the snap
under center he fumbles it twice. Is that the kind
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of thing that because Pittsburgh is straightforward meating potatoes, we
don't need all the flash and sizzle.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We just want to play Steeler football.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Could that actually worked against Justin fields because he has
all the highlight stuff. What he can't do is get
the ball under center, get the snap, complete a seven
yard out route and not throw an interception.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I think like the centers quarterback exchange obviously the most
important exchange in football. This is game one, preseason one,
and they've been working in RUSS with the ones as well.
I don't and who knows is this even the starting
you know what I'm saying. So that doesn't concern me.
Right now, we could it's it's something to file away,
But if we keep seeing it, then it could becomes concerning.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I don't think how. I think it only helps Justin.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I think it only helps Justin because if you can
simplify a lot of stuff, like you know, drop back,
three step drop, throw it there. If it's not there,
then figures then go Like in that structure that Pittsburgh
already has, it's not going to be. He's had how
many different offensive coordinators in Chicago, how many different stories
of his coaching getting coaches getting fired?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Remember eber Flus.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I know now he's got the best odds to win
Coach of the Year, but he was on the hot
seat for the first what six seven weeks of the
season until he took over the defense and that defense
really turned around. So no, I don't think that there's
too much structure can hurt a guy who makes his
most highlight moments out of structure, because if he can
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master the structure, he's not going to forget how to
like bootleg and run out. He's not going to forget
how to run him with the ball under his arm.
So if he can figure that out, then that'll to me,
it can only elevate his game.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I went Martin on that.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And the reason why I'll add to this too, they've
had guys out of structure before Big Ben makes things happen.
I'll take it back to the nineties and introduce you
all to a quarterback from the University of Colorado by
the name of Cordell Stewart that was so out of
structure that they nicknamed him Slash because they just didn't
know what he could do so many different things. And
(34:13):
you know, Bill Kyle said, listen, we're just gonna We're
just gonna go. We we have let's go to Colin
Kaepernick with Harball and San Francisco structure, right, get it
to the tight end. Verdidad turn in hand to Frank Gore.
But when it's time to make something happen, I'm gonna
I don't. I don't forget that part of it. The
structure is what's going to help the other aspects of
(34:36):
his game that he may not have had or people
don't think that they have. I think this is the
perfect situation for him, and said it when he got
traded here. This works out just fine if he can
grabs what they need him to do. As my partner
to the right always says on our show on Saturdays,
Mar's favorite thing what a quarterback does is do with
your head coach or offensive coordinator asks you to do.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
So if they ask him to do this and he
can do.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
It like he's like Martin said, he's not gonna forget
how to turn into justin fields when it comes time
for justin field. So agree with her on as far
as the structure of helping him, but definitely not being
a detrimental his growth.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, if he can sit there and you know,
just figure out the first second third read, which was
part of his problem in Chicago. But if again we're
dealing with an organization here who last year despite I mean,
how many games had it been since somebody threw for
three hundred yards for Pittsburgh. It had been like a
calendar year, you know what I'm saying. If it had
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been so long and he kept going with Matt Canada
and he kept going with Kenny Pickett, this is an
organization that shows if they name you the guy, they're.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Gonna give you every opportunity to not be it right.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And Kenny pickingt that them showing every opportunity that he
wasn't right. So I think if Justin Fields can figure
out how to maneuver that the extra stuff that he
does bring to the table as one of the most
dynamic runners with the football in his hands, that's a
reason why nobody was like, that's a bad like the
only reason why it was a bad idea with Jaylen
Warren said Justin Fields could be back, then returning is
(36:08):
because he also could play quarterback, but in terms of
speed and ability, he'd be pretty good at it if
they gave.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Him a shot.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And also to rob fan base, that's Chicago fan base,
Like you said, all the off the field stuff, coach
getting fired out. That's Chicago fan base. This Pittsburgh fan base,
they were patient with Picket like they were. This is
they've won, right, so they're not in a rush to
run a guy out of the door. This fan base,
I think will embrace him and when he makes mistakes,
(36:35):
they're not gonna try to run him out of town
like in Chicago, where they ain't one nothing in so long.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
They need somebody. That's why people are picking Caleb to
go to the playoffs. The should It's a it's a
feeling that they want.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I think the Steelers fan base are like, yeah, we're rabbit,
terrible towels, we travel better than anybody else in the
NFL other than the Cowboys. But this is our guy.
We're We're okay. We're not gonna hit the panic button quickly.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I'll both again very optimistic about Justin Fields. Some numbers
that are not going to help your case whatsoever. Through
week seventeen, before players started getting rested, Justin Fields was
last in the NFL in fourth quarter completely percentage fifty
per twenty fifth in yards per attempt, tied for twenty
nine fourth quarter interceptions, thirtieth in QBR since joining the
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league's in twenty twenty one, Fields is last among quarterbacks
with fourth quarter interceptions sixteen thirty six and completetion percentage
thirty third in QBR and thirty eight career starts. Fields
has her passed two hundred and twenty five yards six times.
Eighteen NFL starters last year averaged at least two hundred
and thirty passing yards Chicago. Everything that you need him
to do was to throw the football. He has not
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shown his ability to do that at all at the
pro level.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
You know what he was still doing week seventeen though,
starting yep, not completing passes.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
That's what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Sean Payton paid eighty dead cat tell Russell Wilson to
kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
You know what I'm saying thing about it paid almost
one hundred million dollars and dead cats pace to tell them, Hey, Russ, thanks.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
For the memories.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
When you get paid to go away, that's a song,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's a song. When you get paid to go away.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That's just if guy gets divorced and he's like, listen here,
take half the house, Take half the alimone. Here's your alimony,
here's your spousal support, here's a child support. Here's forty
percent on my four one K and half of my pension.
Bye bye. You probably weren't the wife you thought you were.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
You know, just say just.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Saying, the Steelers traded a sixth round pick that could
eventually be a fourth throng pick. So let's just say
fourth to sixth round pick for Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
What the trade for us? Oh? That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Yeah, because he was a free agent and every literally
every team in the NFL had the ability to sign him,
and the Steelers are paying him less than the Lions
are paying handon freaking Hooker to be there.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Got a concussion he did, Yeah, But I'm just saying,
but like he he, you know what he's doing right
now making more money than than Russell Wilson is from
the Steelers. Now, Russell Wilson's check at the end of
the day is gonna be nice. But that's all coming
from the Denver Broncos. I think Justin Phils wins this job, bro,
I really do. I think Justin Phil's Week one is
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the starter of here, and I think that's the smart
route to go. I think he's gonna win it in
camp Oh yeah, but but but but week one.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
That's why he would be the starter.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I mean, because all of the reporting has been that
it's still Russell Wilson is the guy.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I think that's to make sure this kid keeps working.
And it's not only that, it's also why make a
story on August Night that we don't have. Absolutely, we
don't have to make a story August n That's what
because it makes our jobs easier, that's why. But not
only right though, but they're the Steelers. They don't do that.
They don't do that.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Bruso and Ron Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
You asked me how I was doing just now you
know what. Apparently I'm doing better than Jason Tatum's mom.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
She is upset. Yeah, she's pretty upset. She is upset.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Dick Fie Towel tweeted and said, Hey, is anybody know
if Jason Tatum is hurt because he can't seem to
get up off the bench. That's not a direct quote,
but you get the gist. Jason, I mean Jason Tatum's
mom replied, No, he's not. But when you find out
what's going on, please let me know. It's unacceptable and
it makes no sense.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
VJ. Is Jason Tatum being done a grievous wrong?
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Here by Steve Kerr and the Powers that be a
Team USA by plastering his ass to the bench.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I don't think he's being done wrong.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
I just think he's being mismanaged and miscoached with this team.
But I can go back to four weeks ago, five
weeks ago, six weeks ago on our show Martin and VJ,
when we talked about this team when it was first
put together, and I just didn't like a lot of the.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Pieces on this team.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
And can I just say this and I'll ask, I'll
reference in a question. I'll propose it to you in
the question, has this not been one of the more
kind of uneventful feels like USA basketball teams of recent history?
It just it feels I'm where's where's the flash? Where's
the start? Yeah, they got star power, but where where
(01:50):
is it? It feels it feels like I don't know,
it's just something's missing.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I can't get into it.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
And I've watched every game, I've watched every drip, I've
watched every show, I've watch the games, and I'm waiting
for a moment. Steph kind of gave us a little moment.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
You mean you mean to tell me that you weren't
into what happened in the fourth quarter of that Serbia game.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I knew we even down seventeen.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
I'm sitting there with a high school coach, colleague of man,
and I said, they'll come back and win.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
I said, just they'll come. They'll come, They'll come back
and win. I feel you that Servia is not going
to win this game.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
The only time I really had worry and concern was
when they came out at the end of the third
at started the third quarter, US came out with a
punch and Serbia just ate it. And it was like,
I was like, oh, wait a minute, this might be
an issue, but that was really it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
But do you mean to tell me, though, when you
were watching.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Lebron, Steph Curry and Kevin Durant in that fourth quarter,
you didn't get goose.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
Pimples on your arm?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
No, because that's honestly what I expect out of them three.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Like I'm just telling you, I'm just telling you. I'm
just telling you the real bro. It's I expect this team.
You said twenty, I thought about fifteen sixteen as far
as margin of victory they would average by winning in
this entire tournament.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
That's what's happening. That's what's happening.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
I thought about fifteen sixty and you're like, oh, no,
it's gonna be twenty all right, Cool, they're all tracked
for twenty.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
So no, I know. It doesn't it doesn't feel.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
It doesn't feel as if anybody in this tournament has
a shot in hell, because at the end of the day,
you talk about those three guys you just named, those
are championships, those are Envy, multiple championships, multiple MVPs. They're
the three of the last general of this generation. Those
three guys KD, Lebron and Steph they're the last of
(03:34):
this generation. And now we're looking towards Tatum and now
Anthony Edwards and some of the you know, some of
the other younger names. Victor Winbin Yama is gonna be
a guy. It's like, I'm watching this game. No I'm
not getting it. She's like, yeah, I expect you're Lebron,
you're Stephan, you're Durant. Three guys that have what's that
nine champion ten championship was four four four and two, yeah,
(03:55):
ten championship four two, yeah, ten, that's ten championships right there.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
And then I'm.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
Watching and yeah, dude, yeah, they got a joker. Yeah,
they got demand, but they don't have anything else that's
sustainable for them to actually make me think the other
day watching that game, man Usa, Mike, I'm watching, I'm
watching Twitter, and I'm like, heded, they're sucking people.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They're not gonna lose this game. We have the three
best players in the tournament. I tell you those three
guys absolutely true. But I was sitting on the edge
of my seat. I'm yelling at Jeef Kirk. I feel
like me in the entire world were like, yo, we
gotta get a stop here. Hey love Dwayne Wade on
the broadcast like being Homers like this is when I
felt like I was watching my local broadcast.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
That's what I wanted out of this situation.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But let's get back to Jason Tatum not playing in
this game, all right, So, at any point in the
second half, did you think to yourself, you know what
the United States needs to fix this kind of third
quarter slump that they're in. Jason Tatum, at any point
in the second half, did you think that?
Speaker 6 (04:58):
No?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Neither did I.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
No, as he was sitting on the bench. No, when
he got there. Listen, the benching of the first game
was the thing. It was a sign of things to
come because Steve Kerr has to come out and do
a press conference or an interview or whatever you want
to call it, and said that that was an idiot
and do all these you know, all these you know
word salad stuff going, and then Jason Tatum gets some burn.
But let's get real, go back and put the tape on.
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Has Jason Tatum looked good? Has Jason Tatum been dominant
at any point? Has Jason Tatum taken over any of
these games?
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And that's not to knock Jason tatums my next point,
it's not to knock him. It's just like, bro, you
did just go through a Halaysia season and go through
an Okay Finals until the close out game when you
hit a thirty burger plus and you grabbed ten plus
boards and really solidified yourself as hey, I'm a champion,
I'm here.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And to that point played more games than anybody. Exactly.
Speaker 5 (05:47):
I thought Jason Tatum probably should have took this off.
You're gonna be a eligible in twenty eight here in
La in America, in America, on American soil. So just
sometimes it's okay to want to go do something doesn't
mean you should always go do it. And this is
starting to look like and that stronomical mistake. And honestly,
on two people's part, Jason Tatum for even going and
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what Steve Kerr is doing, I'm starting.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
To lean a little your way.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
I'm not fire him like you and Hartman are, but
I am kind of like, all right, Kurr, Like what's
going Like, what's really going on? I don't believe it's
a Warrior Celtic, even though you know how sports does
play human emotion sometimes, But at the end of the day,
I just think it's just too many guys on this
team that does what Tatum does so and.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
He was just a misfit probably for this team.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
My thing was this because Dick Vital tweeted and said,
you know, he's an All NBA player. Guess what, so
is half the team excited Tatum made All NBA kd A,
d Anthony ed Wards, Tyree Talibert, and Lebron James, Steph Curry,
Devin Booker, all of them.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
That's the all NBA lineup.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Of that lineup, right, of that lineup, you know who
closed the game for the team, say Lebron, Steph Devin
Booker and then Kevin Durant and the only one who's
not on this list was not Elvis be All NBA,
and he probably would have been in. Joel Embiid probably
would have been in that first team All NBA spot
and sorry, Demantus Simonis, you probably would have got bumped
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off the third team because at would have been a
second team all of All NBA.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
And they could have left Embid at home. They could
have left Embiat on this team.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
He's been playing a lot better. I don't he played
a lot better and he really looked. Look they got
him for really, let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
One reason.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
That one reason was Serbia and he went showed out
against in Serbia.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
That I don't mind.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
But I still feel like without okay, so I'll ask
you this, without Embiid, do they win today or excuse
me not today, but do they win the Serbia the
Serbia game? I think so, right, I think because Jokich
is gonna do what he does. Yes, you had an
extra big body out there. But once again, when you're
talking the way Steph came out, it's like, okay, here
we go. Because I felt like Steph was kind of
relegated to almost standing around the earlier part of this
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tournament playing because there's so many ball dominant guys on
this team. Like Lebron needs the ball, then Duran Durant
can move a little more freely. But STEP's a point guard,
like Devin Booker needs the ball. Holliday is gonna bring nobody.
He's the point guard. He's gonna bring the ball. There's
a lot of ball dominant guys on this team, and
you just don't. I just think Tatum is just to
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the point now where and I believe Kurz quote was
it's not even a you know, a personal thing or mismanagement.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It's just the fact that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
KD is so much more in the fold right now,
who's better KD or Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
It's Kevin Durant.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
So I'm gonna play Kevin Durant, especially for Jason Tatum
the point especially now, Like if you say over the
span of an NBA season, it's a different conversation, absolutely,
because it's a vastly different scenario. You're not playing back
to backs in the Olympics, You're not playing three games
in four were talking for six six games, right, You're
not the Olympics six game periods, and when you get
a day off in between every single one of them,
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you're not traveling, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
The only thing you can really even think about comparing
it to is the bubble, right except you get you
get to move freely and do whatever you want, you
know what I'm saying, as long as you're you know,
available for the game time.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
And not even really.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Man.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
You know, with the Olympics, a lot of these you know, athletes,
they when they after they perform. I know we will
get them at the women's all Around gymnastics final, and
some people show up to things like that, but a
lot of these athletes do head right back to Olympic village, man,
and go get dress and go.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
They're not out are running? Yeah, I just said exactly
that said the main thing. But I just don't know, Like,
at no point in the fourth quarter was like, oh man,
you know what, you gotta get Jason Tatum in this game.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
You gotta get j T in this game. Steeve Kirk,
what are you doing? Why is it JT playing? Now?
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I do ride with is my dukes though no am
I supposed to? Hey, what's up with my son, a
champion who's not playing. What's going on? So I do
ride with my dukes on that. I completely understand why
Jason Tatum is upset. I completely understand why Jason Tatum's
mom is upset. I completely do not understand why it
seems like everybody on social media is upset about this,
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like somebody had to sit.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
You can play five at a time.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Asked Haliburt, how's his playing time been going?
Speaker 3 (10:10):
If you think he's just saying, I ask him, how's
his playing tom been going? Which is the funniest thing
about this to all of you, because I'm sorry, I'm
old enough to remember when it was Jason Tatem and
Tyres Taliburt head up in the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah,
exactly two or three ones away from being in the
NBA Finals. Yeah, I'm not saying that they're nearly the
(10:31):
same statue of player, but still, if we're keeping everything.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Consistent, we're keeping score like we're keeping score.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
It was in the Eastern Conference finals, took a six
seed on the run and it was an All Star
you know, it was like the guy in the All
Star Game, and then in the end season tournament as well.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Also to it rubs off on this. Also, a backstory
that's kind of gone away is Jalen Brown. That's something
else that kind of rubs off on this too, because
it's like, Okay, you did you You had a chance
to put Jalen Brown on his team multiple times and
you didn't. I do so you put his teammate on
the team, and he is staple the true exactly right
(11:07):
right right, I mean in white and White's like doing
the European style basketball thing. He he fits for what
they're trying to do in the Olympics. He fits what
they're trying to do in the NBA also. But he
is a guy that you can that could go.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Overseas and have a very success Yeah, he could go
overseas and have a very high level, successful overseas career.
He's not going to be a guy over there at
the end of his career trying to just get some
last paychecks in No, he'll go over there and be
Trajan Langdon. If you guys remember when Trajan Langdon left
the Cleveland Cavaliers and went overseas.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
He was over I believe in a Spanish league. He
won MVP and won a championship, like he was one
of the better players over there in the European League.
It was either French League or Spanish League, but he
was still had game left in him.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think that would be the same way.
Speaker 5 (11:51):
But with Tatum, it's just to the point right now, man,
it is what it is, and Tatum's just got it. It
sucks because he's got to kind of just eat this
and sit Saturday. I don't think he plays a lot
tomorrow against France. You know, if you haven't been playing,
I don't think you played a lot tomrow against France.
Collect your gold medal, standing on the podium with your guys,
put the drape the flag over you and shed a tear,
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which I won't think he'll do. But and then pack
your bags, man, and then go home and just enjoy
the rest of off season. And it's a quick turnaround.
NBA training camp start what about two and a half
three weeks, man, like what early September, middle September?
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Here soon, I mean in a month's Ye're right back
in Boston trying to defend a championship, So I would
focus on that.
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Speaker 3 (13:12):
I said, this team is stuck in nineteen seventy and
it's because their owner maybe as old as hell. But
I don't think I don't know if Jerry Jones aware
you think that the salary cap exists of being sarcastic.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Obviously, I know he's aware of it, but it.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Seems like, look, Jerry, you can't just go out there
and spend whatever you want to spend whatever you want
to spend it anymore. There's penalties of punishments for that.
I'm not sure he understands that.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Alex.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Let's hear what Jerry had to say about the CD
Lamb deal that is impending.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I went to oscool or I went to college.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
I don't know why I say it, but I'm just
saying I don't. I don't have a sense urging it
about getting it, Dune, any reason you won't.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
So he went to high school, he went to college.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Jack check confirmed on full counts right, not having urgency
to sign C.
Speaker 4 (14:03):
D Lamb though, should there be a check there as well? Right?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
Okay, we know what the high school, we know what's college.
Should he be urgent right now to sign CD Lamb? No,
absolutely not.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
There's two players you got to take care of before
CD Lamb, and you can go in either order. I
told you a few weeks ago, maybe about over a
month ago, I wouldn't play with Michael Parsons with this.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I wouldn't. He he's a game wrecker.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
But he's a game to cut you up. Has been
at trendy camp, has been practicing. I get it, and
that's why I would do.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
I would get him done for So your question about Brandon,
I you now ceedee Lamb did last year. I know
everybody written because I have him on top ten. He
crabbed my top ten this year's fast top ten receivers.
Fine recept you can you could find if you look
at the receivers, the top guys that are paid CDs
at three point five, like you know, Jefferson Brown, Brown, Hill, Waddle,
(14:56):
More Adams, Coop, Devonte, Nico Metcalf, Deebo Pittman, They're they're receivers.
You can find receivers. You just can't find Michael Parsons.
They those guys are far and few in between. Ceedee
Lamb is a really good to great receiver. I don't
think he's a game changeing receiver. I think he's a
really good to great receiver. I think that's a fair assessment.
(15:19):
Michael Parsons is a game record. He will wreck everything
you're trying to do on that side of the football.
You can't just find guys like that. Him or dak
Is who I would take care first because I know
there's this thing of letting that test free agency and go.
I don't have a problem with that. You just logically
have to tell me what's your plan. B. I said
(15:41):
this about Love, I said this about tour. If you
don't want to pay them, guys find the fans.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Don't think they need to be paid or people on
TV and radio don't think they need to be paid
or should be no problem.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
You can have that, but you have must logically tell
me what's your plan B. So, if your Dallas is
at Cooper Rush, is it trade? Okay? If that's what
you're telling me. Answered the same.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Question though, lamb, Then who's Dallas's plan B at wide Receiver?
Because if you're telling me that they didn't do this
before the draft, okay cool. If you're telling me didn't
do this before the end of free agency, okay cool.
But right now we're in training camp, Like, where are
they gonna find plan B? If CD decides to hold
out or whole dinner?
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Is you just do it?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
He's a he's first of all, if they decide, if
he decides to hold out. I always look at holdouts
like this, that's on you. You're not hurting anybody at
the player but yourself. Now you may get your deal
and then it's like, yeah, it worked out. But if
they just say, okay, fine, go ahead and hold out,
we're gonna take care of either Dak or we're gonna
figure out this thing with Micah first. And if you
want to hold out, you'll be the one missing out,
(16:40):
and we could put you on the trademarket and trade
you if we wanted to. I'm pretty sure there's some
teams out there that will give us a return. And
we might miss you this year. That's fine, but we'll
go into the draft, or we'll go into free agency
next year. We'll find our receiver teams. Receivers falled off
trees in this league. That's just the way the game
is now. Because it's a passing league. You can find
receivers around the NFL to come in and do may
(17:02):
not put up CD numbers, but if you get two
guys that can put up CD numbers, I got my quarterback,
I got my game wrecking Rush in we have other
weapons on the field that could be that he's more
replaceable to me than I think Michael Parsons is or
even DAK. And I know people have their knocks against DAK,
but once again, if you're telling me you're gonna move
on from DAK because you don't want to pay Deck,
you will pay CD first. That you're telling me that
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you believe it Cooper Rush or you believe it Trey
Lance and Trey Lance, you know, the top round, first
round pick for the Niners just set it off and
traded away because Brock Party came out of nowhere. So
and he's he's not gonna sniff the fiel. Probably for
Dallas again, Cooper Rush is the number two. So that's
why I think there's no rush to pay CD. My
question I would throw to you was did you think
(17:45):
he was joking or did you think he was serious?
Because he threw the laugh in there and everybody thought
it was joking.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I thought he was serious.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
I think he's serious, but also has an idea, you know,
the idea that Jerry Jones is the Carnival Barker free.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Like he is.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He knows that he is like for lack of I
don't mean there's in a disparaging way, but the entertainment.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Oh no, like he's there to make people. Now he's
trying to make people. He's don king.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
He's the NFL don king. He's trying to make people laugh.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
But I did that.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I do think he's just showing with level of posture,
level of seriousness. Either way, it seems as if CD
Lamb took it seriously because he retweeted all the comments
with three simple letters lol, which was then retweeted, by
the way, but your boy, Michael, now, let me ask
you this, who do you pay first. I would have
paid DAK last year, thank you. I would have paid
(18:32):
CD last year.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
I had have paid Dak and Michael last year, and
then you could have worked CD out this season. But
Jerry does this, He waits and it it never turns out.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
Well.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I keep going back to the Zeke deal when he
pays Zeke first and then Zach believe was Zach Martin
and you pay. If you had paid Dak back then
when you should have, it wouldn't have been to forty million.
It was around like twenty nine to thirty. Then they
got up to thirty one, thirty two. Then eventually it
got the forty.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
Because you waited. Let's think about this.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Think about dak Press got a forty million dollars. Yeah,
just think about that. You could have had dak Press
got forty million dollars. It was making forty million dollars
Daniel Jones puch for fifteen touchdown passes.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
But do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
You could have had dak Press got forty million dollars
at one point time, and now you could have had
that Prescott for forty eight million dollars.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
You know what I'm saying. Four years later, you know
what I'm saying, Think about that. Think about that.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Now you're looking at the presspect of the prospect of
Dak Prescott at sixty.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Million, sixty million dollars, sixty million dollars. Once again, I
get what people say about it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Oh you think that would have came out talking about
fifty five if he had signed before Burrow and Lawrence
and Love.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
No, no, what listen.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
I just like I said, when his contract stuff first started,
it was a hovering between like twenty eight and thirty one,
thirty two, and Dallas was like, ooh, Dallas got scared off.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
I'm like, no sign that. I sat on the odd
couple with Chris Bruce only eighty more offensive. I said, sign,
no sign that, don't sign Zeke. Zeke took off and
went the cowbo. Just trust me on this sign Dak. Now,
don't wait to sign.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
Nope, you wanted to sign the guy, and that's what
made that so weird. Does you sign the guy that's
not there? I, as a GM and an owner, VP
of football operations all that stuff, I'm not signing the
guy that's not there. If I have other high level
players to take care of, they're there. Like you said
about Michael, Michael's been there, Michael has been practicing. Michael
hasn't made a sound, But Michaeh's doing this.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think smart, professionally and as a grown man thinking,
hey man, listen, I can ruffle feathers later. I want
my money, so let me let me go play nice
and let me do what I'm supposed to do and
be a professional, and let's go get this done.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
That's what Michael Parsons is doing.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
That's why I say, listen, between either him and Dak,
I still might pay Michael first. If it just came
down between who do you pay first, Micah or Dak,
I still might pay Michael first.
Speaker 4 (20:52):
Is you have to pay Dak.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
This is like the way the order of operations has
to go, whether or not you want to or not.
Whether it's like all the things you said, I'm not
saying they're invalid. Because of the size of the quarterback contract.
You have to structure it in such a way that's
the one that has to get done first, because it's
the biggest piece of the pie. Then you can structure
the rest of the pie for Micah and CD. That's
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why not signing Dak last year was just mismanagement. And
I don't think they're gonna sign Dak for the seasons.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
I don't. I tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
If Dak Prescott and CD Lamb play on their current
contracts this year, neither one of them will be a
cowboy gone in the season. After they're gone, either one
of them will be because somebody will pay Dak.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
This idea that other teams these reports you get stuck.
Anonymous GM says that they wait and pay. Yeah, okay, yeah,
First of all, take anonymous out of and say it
with your chest. If you're gonna say it, that's number one,
number two when you getting those offices. Martin's got me
watching the Giants hard Knocks thing Electric. I've been dogging it,
isn't it. I've been dogging tail you what.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Time of night did you get a text message from me?
It was an ability of It was about one thirty
in the morning. I'm sitting on their short poor and
simp's some tequila watching this thing. I immediately text mart
I say, you know what, bruh, it's all good players
mess up.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
This is outstanding.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
The intercals and the intricracies of them after the season
talking to these contracts.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
You know what, even about sa Quon that was like
the That was like the honestly, that was probably like
the weakest part of it. It was everything else stowed. Scouting,
the players, talking about all these other positions, having a
coordinator come in and then asking okay, what.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Do you want to run? What do you need?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And then the guys that break down the contracts, the
assistant GM, the scouting, the oh my goodness, it was outstanding.
But that part of it, when you're talking about these
contracts and you're talking about trying to get these deals done,
you've got to take care of who's there in my opinion,
and who acts like they want to be there. And
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Dak Prescott wants to be there. But if, like you said,
you let Dak hit the market, these guys will give
them there. There's gonna be a GM that needs a quarterback.
You don't think, let's say, the Raiders won't just go
you know what, listen, let's just pay because we need
we need we need you.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
You want to trade to happen? Been saying what does
it costs?
Speaker 5 (23:14):
There are teams out here, ladies and gentlemen, whether you
like Dak Prescott or not, they're gonna pay him.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
You guys thought to it wasn't gonna get paid. People
thought love shouldn't have get paid, and shouldn't have gotten
paid and wasn't gonna get paid. Yeah, you're That's why
we're not NFL owners in gms and VP of operations.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
That's why we don't have those positions.
Speaker 5 (23:32):
If you think you got your guy, my thing is
always just pay him now instead of paying them later.
Because if you let guys play too long on these deals,
you can have a player just say I'm gonna walk
away and feel disrespected. That wild hit the market. If
they don't get a deal done, that's gonna get a paycheck. Guys,
he's gonna get a big contract. Who knows if all
these rookies, let's say Drake May comes out. Hypothetically speaking,
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let's say Drake May comes out and just you can
see it he ain't got it, or Jayden Daniels he
ain't got it. Now, we know these franchises won't move
off quickly. But if Dak's on the market and you're
one of these teams that drafted a rookie like we
saw with with a Desmond Ridder, right, you could see
within what seven eight games, this guy's not a starting
(24:17):
NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
And you see what they ended up doing going for two,
going for two guys well, and signing a guy older
than me with one less achilles than me and giving
him one hundred million dollars guarant guarantee, guarantee, and then
drafting a guy at number eight.
Speaker 5 (24:31):
That's how fast they moved off Desmon Ridder. So there's
teams that should have been a year prior. Yeah, your
point was definitely.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
The Pittsburgh quarterback, the kid that was a pitt that
they drafted, that they drafted and had their It's like, dude,
he can't play.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
It is what it is, Zach Wilson, he can't play.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
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Speaker 3 (24:58):
You've been sitting there li and dying with every snap
of the Dolphins Falcons preseason game on your iPad because
the NFL overlords that be won't let us just watch
all of them on television.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Right, you gotta go ahead.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
Hey, NFL plus ID pay at fifteen dollars if you
want to see. But you know these are basically I mean,
I know you keep saying, and I don't mean to
offend your sensibilities, but these are not the football games
that we are used to seeing generally speaking, when we
talk about the football, right, you know, we're looking at backups.
(25:33):
Maybe how many of these guys are gonna make the rocks. Yeah,
there's what eighty five guys on the team right now,
so little under half will no longer be on set
team when it's all said and done.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
We're well familiar with the concept and.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Prospect of cutting players after watching years and years of
hard knocks, watching those guys on that last episode when
the music goes, and that's when you find out if
your fan favorite keeps the playbook or gets the trash
bag right. But what it is sometimes though the preseason,
(26:07):
while at dress rehearsal, it can sometimes be an audition. Yep,
and I think we're watching one right here right now,
with about three minutes left in a three minutes left
in the third quarter, as the use of Texas take
on the Pittsburgh Steelers and that is the audition of
one player who wears number one justin field, or.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Used to wear number one rather justin field. Yep. And
then I'm pulling for him.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I think he should be the starter in this situation,
if you got him there. I just think Russell Wilson
has just passed his time. And I said that two
years ago when Denver made the move to go get him.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
But not a bad day.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
But as Rob came in here, Rob g came in
doing one of the commercial braces and said, he's just
either up here or he's down there.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
And it's very true. He's either up here or he's
down here.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
I think being in Pittsburgh, they have such a great
coacher and a great coaching staff. If there's anybody who
I think can really this kid in and work with
him and turn it into the starter that I believe
he still can be.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
I think it is right there. Let's hear what Pittsburgh.
Let's hear what he did tonight justin fields.
Speaker 6 (27:12):
Very efficient five of six for sixty seven yards eleven
point two yards per ten, which is great passer rating
of one thirteen. He also was sacked twice and fumble twice.
Just bottling the snap. It wasn't a bad snap, just
drop the snap.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
And he's just got to get used to that too, Robberg,
because he's a guy that you know, when he's at Ohio,
the state is RPO. Everything is so spread. Then nowadays,
it's really hard for you know, to bring a guy
into the NFL from college who's been taking snaps from
underneath the center all through college. You just don't see it.
That's no excuse for him. So you gotta you guys
been in the NFL for years now. Absolutely, And guess what.
(27:52):
In Chicago, they ran a lot of a shotgun RPL.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Because you're you're told to fit your your system around
your your quarter, right, you do what he does well
at But Pittsburgh is a power running team, right, You
had Najia Harris, You got some other guys there running football,
and it's there.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
It's their culture, it's their history.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
You think about the Steelers for the last forty fifty years, right, yeah,
Franko Harris, and then it goes there. If you guys
remember Barry Word who was a top rusher in his time,
going battling EMMITTT. Smith and Barry Sanders in the nineties
and then you had the bus, Jerome Bettis and then
you've had Le'Veon Bell. I'm missing somebody didn't look? Didn't
look Garrett Blunt go there and run and run well
for a season or for a moment there. So they
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they want to run the football and be more physical.
The best way to do that, in my opinion in
football is to get underneath to send RPO. When I
watched teams run out of the RPO, I'm like, God,
you you don't understand the advantage you're giving the defense.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
You really don't.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
You don't get the advantage you're giving them by running
everything from the RPO position. So I'm pulling for him.
I think it's, you know, a decent night, but it
is an audition. Now he's been taking most of the
first team reps because Russ had the calf? Was it
a Russ had the Do you know how he heard
his ca No? Because I don't care, but go ahead.
You have to be as smart as but yeah. But
(29:04):
so Mike de Fabo we had on what was it Wednesday?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
It was Wednesday on the couple right as I was
feeling in for Rob Pittsburgh. She was beat writer for
the Athletic He says they were pushing a tackling slid.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
The conditioning coaches had Russell Wilson pushing a tackling slid,
and that's how he hurt his calf. Now I don't
know about that. No, that's what I mean.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
No, no, no, no, no, I don't know about having Russell Wilson.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
I was about to ask you, when's the last time
he saw Russell Wilson on the lead block.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Oh uh ever, no, no, no, Wilson need to push
the tackling slip. Well, now, hold on, now, this is
also the same franchise that leaked that Justin Fields could
possibly return kick right, Okay, I was Jalen Warren on
a podcast. I think that's a little different.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Well, hey, listen, somebody said it to him and I
said that on our show.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Something he didn't just go. He also just might have
been talking after that.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, well, true, that happens with a lot of these
these uh these guys.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
They careful with the podcast, but you know it was
out there.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Even if you're a teammate, why would you say that,
Why would you say that that Justin Fields could return?
Anybody think to put Mike Vick back at kick return
or or a Randall Cunningham at punt return.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
No, like that's not even something you say. But I
thought a decent audition tonight. He is auditioning. In my opinion,
this is not a four gone conclusion that this is
Russell Wilson's starting quarterback job. I think that this is
a legit audition, and I think that whoever is good
they think can take them into this season.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
They're in a tough division. They're in a super tough division.
You're talking three teams that could possibly all make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
Right, there's three teams out of this division that can
You got the Ravens, you got the Bengals.
Speaker 4 (30:53):
Joe Burrow's back, and you got Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
They get Deshaun back, and they were in the playoffs
last year without Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 4 (30:59):
So tough division. They got to figure it out.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I was surprised to see him getting as much burn
as he was until it's like, oh no, no, the
thought set in, Oh no, they gotta see they gotta
get him out there.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
You can't.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Why would you play the third guy because Russell's not
gonna play to night, so you're not gonna play the
third guy till later. So you might as well play
the guy that's been getting the one reps, and that's
been Justin Phil.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
So I'm happy with it.
Speaker 6 (31:20):
I got a question for you, guys, because obviously you're
both pulling for Justin Field to get the starting job
there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (31:27):
Our Fox Sports Radio Weekend teammate Karmen Vitali said today
on First Things First that with Justin Fields in Chicago,
the issue there was there was no structure around him.
It was an unstable franchise, a lot of chaos. I mean,
he had to navigate through a really tough situation. Pittsburgh
is the exact opposite of that, very structured. They've been
(31:48):
doing things along the same way for a long time
and it's worked out well for them. But what Carmen said,
and this is I want to get your thoughts on,
is the fact that they're so structured is actually what
could end up being Justin Fields undoing because, as you
have mentioned, VJ, something as simple as taking the snap
under center he fumbles it twice. Is that the kind
(32:09):
of thing that because Pittsburgh is straightforward meating potatoes, we
don't need all the flash and sizzle.
Speaker 4 (32:16):
We just want to play Steeler football.
Speaker 6 (32:19):
Could that actually worked against Justin fields because he has
all the highlight stuff. What he can't do is get
the ball under center, get the snap, complete a seven
yard out route and not throw an interception.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
No, I don't buy that. I don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I think like the centers quarterback exchange obviously the most
important exchange in football. This is game one, preseason one,
and they've been working in RUSS with the ones as well.
I don't and who knows is this even the starting
you know what I'm saying. So that doesn't concern me.
Right now, we could it's it's something to file away,
But if we keep seeing it, then it could becomes concerning.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I don't think how. I think it only helps Justin.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
I think it only helps Justin because if you can
simplify a lot of stuff, like you know, drop back,
three step drop, throw it there. If it's not there,
then figures then go Like in that structure that Pittsburgh
already has, it's not going to be. He's had how
many different offensive coordinators in Chicago, how many different stories
of his coaching getting coaches getting fired?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Remember eber Flus.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I know now he's got the best odds to win
Coach of the Year, but he was on the hot
seat for the first what six seven weeks of the
season until he took over the defense and that defense
really turned around. So no, I don't think that there's
too much structure can hurt a guy who makes his
most highlight moments out of structure, because if he can
(33:38):
master the structure, he's not going to forget how to
like bootleg and run out. He's not going to forget
how to run him with the ball under his arm.
So if he can figure that out, then that'll to me,
it can only elevate his game.
Speaker 4 (33:50):
I went Martin on that.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
And the reason why I'll add to this too, they've
had guys out of structure before Big Ben makes things happen.
I'll take it back to the nineties and introduce you
all to a quarterback from the University of Colorado by
the name of Cordell Stewart that was so out of
structure that they nicknamed him Slash because they just didn't
know what he could do so many different things. And
(34:13):
you know, Bill Kyle said, listen, we're just gonna We're
just gonna go. We we have let's go to Colin
Kaepernick with Harball and San Francisco structure, right, get it
to the tight end. Verdidad turn in hand to Frank Gore.
But when it's time to make something happen, I'm gonna
I don't. I don't forget that part of it. The
structure is what's going to help the other aspects of
(34:36):
his game that he may not have had or people
don't think that they have. I think this is the
perfect situation for him, and said it when he got
traded here. This works out just fine if he can
grabs what they need him to do. As my partner
to the right always says on our show on Saturdays,
Mar's favorite thing what a quarterback does is do with
your head coach or offensive coordinator asks you to do.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
So if they ask him to do this and he
can do.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
It like he's like Martin said, he's not gonna forget
how to turn into justin fields when it comes time
for justin field. So agree with her on as far
as the structure of helping him, but definitely not being
a detrimental his growth.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, if he can sit there and you know,
just figure out the first second third read, which was
part of his problem in Chicago. But if again we're
dealing with an organization here who last year despite I mean,
how many games had it been since somebody threw for
three hundred yards for Pittsburgh. It had been like a
calendar year, you know what I'm saying. If it had
(35:35):
been so long and he kept going with Matt Canada
and he kept going with Kenny Pickett, this is an
organization that shows if they name you the guy, they're.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Gonna give you every opportunity to not be it right.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
And Kenny pickingt that them showing every opportunity that he
wasn't right. So I think if Justin Fields can figure
out how to maneuver that the extra stuff that he
does bring to the table as one of the most
dynamic runners with the football in his hands, that's a
reason why nobody was like, that's a bad like the
only reason why it was a bad idea with Jaylen
Warren said Justin Fields could be back, then returning is
(36:08):
because he also could play quarterback, but in terms of
speed and ability, he'd be pretty good at it if
they gave.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Him a shot.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
And also to rob fan base, that's Chicago fan base,
Like you said, all the off the field stuff, coach
getting fired out. That's Chicago fan base. This Pittsburgh fan base,
they were patient with Picket like they were. This is
they've won, right, so they're not in a rush to
run a guy out of the door. This fan base,
I think will embrace him and when he makes mistakes,
(36:35):
they're not gonna try to run him out of town
like in Chicago, where they ain't one nothing in so long.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
They need somebody. That's why people are picking Caleb to
go to the playoffs. The should It's a it's a
feeling that they want.
Speaker 5 (36:45):
I think the Steelers fan base are like, yeah, we're rabbit,
terrible towels, we travel better than anybody else in the
NFL other than the Cowboys. But this is our guy.
We're We're okay. We're not gonna hit the panic button quickly.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I'll both again very optimistic about Justin Fields. Some numbers
that are not going to help your case whatsoever. Through
week seventeen, before players started getting rested, Justin Fields was
last in the NFL in fourth quarter completely percentage fifty
per twenty fifth in yards per attempt, tied for twenty
nine fourth quarter interceptions, thirtieth in QBR since joining the
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league's in twenty twenty one, Fields is last among quarterbacks
with fourth quarter interceptions sixteen thirty six and completetion percentage
thirty third in QBR and thirty eight career starts. Fields
has her passed two hundred and twenty five yards six times.
Eighteen NFL starters last year averaged at least two hundred
and thirty passing yards Chicago. Everything that you need him
to do was to throw the football. He has not
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shown his ability to do that at all at the
pro level.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
You know what he was still doing week seventeen though,
starting yep, not completing passes.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
That's what he was doing.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Sean Payton paid eighty dead cat tell Russell Wilson to
kick rocks.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
That's true. That's a good point.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
You know what I'm saying thing about it paid almost
one hundred million dollars and dead cats pace to tell them, Hey, Russ, thanks.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
For the memories.
Speaker 5 (38:00):
When you get paid to go away, that's a song,
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
That's a song. When you get paid to go away.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
That's just if guy gets divorced and he's like, listen here,
take half the house, Take half the alimone. Here's your alimony,
here's your spousal support, here's a child support. Here's forty
percent on my four one K and half of my pension.
Bye bye. You probably weren't the wife you thought you were.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
You know, just say just.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Saying, the Steelers traded a sixth round pick that could
eventually be a fourth throng pick. So let's just say
fourth to sixth round pick for Justin Fields.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
What the trade for us? Oh? That's right, that's right.
Speaker 7 (38:32):
Yeah, because he was a free agent and every literally
every team in the NFL had the ability to sign him,
and the Steelers are paying him less than the Lions
are paying handon freaking Hooker to be there.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Got a concussion he did, Yeah, But I'm just saying,
but like he he, you know what he's doing right
now making more money than than Russell Wilson is from
the Steelers. Now, Russell Wilson's check at the end of
the day is gonna be nice. But that's all coming
from the Denver Broncos. I think Justin Phils wins this job, bro,
I really do. I think Justin Phil's Week one is
(39:04):
the starter of here, and I think that's the smart
route to go. I think he's gonna win it in
camp Oh yeah, but but but but week one.
Speaker 4 (39:11):
That's why he would be the starter.
Speaker 6 (39:13):
I mean, because all of the reporting has been that
it's still Russell Wilson is the guy.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
I think that's to make sure this kid keeps working.
And it's not only that, it's also why make a
story on August Night that we don't have. Absolutely, we
don't have to make a story August n That's what
because it makes our jobs easier, that's why. But not
only right though, but they're the Steelers. They don't do that.
They don't do that.
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