October 22, 2024 • 25 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why you’re missing out on true greatness if you only focus on Lamar Jackson’s postseason record, discuss Tua Tagovailoa’s insinuation that he would rather die than retire from the game of football and debate whether the LeBron-Bronny James pairing on the Los Angeles Lakers should be celebrated.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:27):
But let's start here with the NFL last night, Yeah,
Monday Night football.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Your man Crush.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I have a big one on him because I think
he's that guy. He's something special that we're watching. And
this is what I don't like. Okay, I get it
that eventually we need to tally up see where people
fit in. Right. We've talked about this before, But if
your only focus is about his postseason record and that
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he hasn't won a Super Bowl, I think you're miss guided.
I really do, because you can't win a super Bowl
right now. It's October, so to talk about that doesn't
make any sense because he can't do anything right here.
And what I mean is, have you watched this guy?
You just watched last night?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Five?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He had as many he had as many touchdowns as
Patrick Mahomes has all year passing. Patrick Mahomes has six
passing touchdowns and Lamar throw for five last night.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That Patt needs to get right with that one is
that unbelievable. Patt needs some get right.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And did you see that forty nine yard pass down?
So carol in to the sideline chucked it down.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, beautiful pass. His throwing continues to get better and improve.
We know what a threat he is on the ground
and the moves that he makes and all the other things.
And now he has Derrick Henry in the backfield with him.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Forget about it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And he even said it on the interview after we're
to pick your poison offense?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Which one? Which one you're gonna take?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I can't believe the league let the Derrick Henry go
to the already John Harbaugh, who wants to run the
ball all the time, whether it's for the quarterback or
running backs. And then you give him arguably the one,
two three best back in the entire NFL, who has
a point to prove, who's on a mission. I don't
know how the league let that happen. He is absolutely remarkable.
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And the one thing I hate about this era of sports,
specifically sports conversation is that we have to talk.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know, Rob G and I talked about this. I
hate ring talk all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm out about it at times, but when that's the
end of every conversation, he didn't have a ring or
he has twenty rings, he has six rings?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like, can we just marvel sometimes?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Can I look at Lamar Jackson like, yo, dude is
incredible and he is taking it upon his own shoulder.
Put it on the shoulders last season he said, I
gotta get better, and he talked about it. He said,
all I'm caring about is looking the same every game
and he being consistent out ball out every single night.
And he's done that. And a shout out to a
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colleague of ours. Jamiel Hill has a new show, Above
the Fold, and it's on True TV. I happened to
be a guest, the first guest at air today, will
be airon later as well. But that was one of
the conversations was MVP, and she asked, I know you're
Alliance fan Jared Goff even though I'm a Homer. I said,
hold on, Jared looks great, but there's a raining MVP
who looks like he might get another one again in Lamar,
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And it's just remarkable to what he's doing. And I
think you and I feel the same way that I
just go into any game going how do you beat him?
And slash them? How do you beat him? You might
beat him, but I can't go in and seeing how
you can beat them. Here's here's some numbers.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just last night was the fifth career game in which
Lamar recorded five plus passing touchdowns and zero interceptions, the
most such performance in the NFL since he entered it
in twenty eighteen. It was his fifth career game with
one hundred and fifty five plus passer rating, tying him
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with Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger for the most such
games in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
This is the stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And here's the reason why you can't fully hold up
with uh just it always being postseason talk because somehow,
some way, people used to make a case for Dann
Marino being the great, being the goat quarterback this fight
never winning. He went to the Super Bowl second year
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and he never and he didn't win, and he never
went back. But people used to marvel at his numbers.
He was thrown for four or five thousand yards way
before people did that, you know in the old NFL,
and my other poor and and and uh, who who
are you thinking of?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Rod? Where? Wait? Quarterback or Woodson? I'm sorry Rod Woodson.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
He says that Dan Marino is his goal cout quarterback,
that he was the best he ever saw.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're talking about talent, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That was his guy, and he didn't go well, he
never won, so I can't look at him that way.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And that's my point.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And anybody who really thinks that Lamar is not going
to win, I think you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think it's just a matter of top To me,
I'm pretty good at picking a sport and calling out
like okay, this person's gonna win. It might be one year,
one year, ten like okay, this person's gonna win. And
it's a handful as we talk NBA talk as well.
I think there's a few young NBA players they're gonna
win a championship. Like Wemby is going to win a championship.
It's an impossibility that he won't is barring injury. If
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he has a long ten to fifteen year career. Winby
will and Lamar Jackson's going to win because the reason
why he's so gifted, he's so talented, he puts in
the work. He has an organization that believes in him.
He has an organization and a coach that continue to
find ways for him to succeed. And when you do that,
all you keep doing is knocking on that door, knocking
on that door, and eventually the door is gonna open,
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or it's gonna cracker, or you're gonna kick that mug down.
And so Lamar Jackson absolutely is gonna win one. He's
gonna get back there enough times and have a shot
at it to get one. I'm not saying he's gonna
win multiple, but the way in which he plays, the
way in which he prepares, the way in which that
team surround I love that they embody his identity.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, for years teams were going, well, fit what
we do, here's our mold, do this exactly how we
do it, This is how we are, this is how
we structured fit into this John Harball and all of
them said, we got this guy with this unique skill set,
what do we need for him, dude to win? And
I like that about that organization.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I would say that that those are the best coaches
are the ones who alter their race. Because I remember
when Pat Rodley, I thought his best coaching job was
when he left the Lakers came to the Knicks and
made them into a team that vibe, were viable for
championship even though they didn't have the talent that he
had with the Lakers. He knew he couldn't do showtime
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with Patrick Ewan and those guys, so he totally changed
his coaching and then again with the Heat, right, And
that's what I'm saying, that's a coach to me, You
look at what do I have here.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I can't do this. I gotta do this. Let me
make this to put people in the best situation.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're able to cook the best meal with the ingredients
you got, and that's what John Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Peanut butter and jelly. You gotta have milk.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No, I don't have those ingredients, but I can still
have the PBNJ with with the water. With the pop
aka and soda, you can still have the people this
gross a soda. With that, you're probably gonna have some
chips with the two. And if you have chips, peanut
butter and jelly, sandwich.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
What's wrong with that? I can't mix, so I didn't realize.
You know, I can't even have my food touching each
other on a plate. Oh you're one of those. Yeah,
my food cannot touch.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
On the polar opposite equal portions. Now, let's say you
have chicken broccoli rice.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I have to go chicken broccoli, rice chicken till there's
literally one morsel of each, so that that last bite
is just no.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't want my chicken touching the spinach. I don't
want my spinach touching the corn.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm starting to really think you are segregatis whatever I'm
trying to say, you like things segregated.
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Speaker 1 (08:14):
This is an interesting conversation. We knew it was coming, Rob,
just because eventually the opportunity for Tua to come back
after having his third concussion which looked bad again, and
by the way, the irony of it was having Damar
Hamlin be the one who hit him. And you know
we already know what he went through, Damar Hamlin, So
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two I had that we had sound on this too. It.
This is what two I had to say finally being
asked about coming back into bout the whole.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Cook plays earlier.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sunday's right, he's starting to practice now concussion situation. Here's
what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
What would you say to those that are worried that
you might get hurt again? And this is oh that's
going to continue.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this game,
and I love it to the death of me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I love it to the death of me. You've been
covering this. I've been covering this is nineteen eighty seven.
We know I've been coming to the NFL since nineteen
eighty seven. Yeah, well, thank you for getting that out
of the way. We know, no, and I've been doing
this for quite some time as well. And anytime you
spend time with these former athletes, specifically NFL players, what
you learn.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Man, they wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They know it. You can ask him, would you let
your son play? I'd rather him not. Would you go back? Ye? No,
Salam will not let his boys. That's what I'm saying
from anybody. I've asked most of them. Now again, they
can't control their they would rather not. And then if
you ask them, well, knowing all of this, knowing CTE possibilities,
and knowing your limping, knowing your fingers are all noted,
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how about how many? How about how many NFL players
commit suicide? Knowing how many players have committed suicide? We
see that more and more. We know the data. Now
we know the information. Now would you do it again?
I've not met one yet that has said no. And
it's the glory.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
We all all. They're making mealk.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's not just the money, because when you're a five
year old running in the backyard, running around in your
hometown playing football and the sandlot and the grass and
the field, it ain't about money. It's about being the best,
having fun playing the game you love. And a venue
goes to pee wee League, then it goes to middle
school or high school, then it goes to college. Then
you get the pro and yes, the money's good, and
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yes you might get the ladies, and yes you get
all the endorsement. But at the end of the day, man,
they just love the game. They want It's the glory,
it's the locker room, it's the clubhouse. There's nowhere else where,
one of the things always here. There's nowhere else where.
You walk out and seventy five thousand people are screaming
your name, one hundred thousand in college stadiums, they're cheering
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for you, the roar of the crowd. That's a hard
thing to get rid of. And so I knew too
it was gonna come back and play.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I don't like to quote where to die for it,
just the whole even to even talk about, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I think that's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think I know, but I'm just saying to put
it on the line, and if that's what happens, that's
what happens, and you and I that sounds it's crazy,
just the idea.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I understand if you just feel like I I think that,
you know, you feel like I'm just gonna give it
a shot. I still feel like I can play and
stay healthy or whatever. I'd rather hear that than this
to the death of me.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You know what I think he's telling you, Really, I
think what I heard from that Rob. I've talked to doctors,
I've talked to my counselors, I've talked to my parents,
my family, I've talked to maybe if he's got a
lady or whatever in his life.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I think his point was I know all the inherent dangers,
inherent dangers, I know the possibilities, I know the history
and now that we know more about this medical situation,
ct But at the end of the day, I think
he's like, I'm willing to die for this. This is
what I believe I was put on earth for. And
you and I are like, I can't believe, Like, no
way you would do that. And I just think most
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of these players are built that way, and for us,
it's irrational. It doesn't make sense, don't you know, CTE,
don't you know this. I think they're like, man, this
is what I'm here for. I'm willing to die for.
And again, it doesn't make sense per se to us.
It doesn't shock me hearing it from him.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, I agree to a certain extent.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like I said, just the idea that even the term
you know, the death thing.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Right you want to kno, you know, right, all right,
because gods have died on the field like.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Guys and post right you mentioned it. A lot of
guys who have CTE.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We've seen them struggle and take their own lives or
just struggle with als.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I've heard guys talk about that they've got ringing in
their ears that hasn't stopped for years.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Jim McMahon, if you've kept up with it, he's going
through the quarterback for the Bears in the eighties. What
he's going through? Bad stuff, man, he said. Man, he'll
come back. His wife will be like, why are you
still here? He'd be like, I don't even remember what
was I supposed to be doing? Where am I going?
Who's the other one? The former Eric Kramer with the Lions,
Eric Kramer? Another going through a lot of who just
got in the Hall of Fame for the Pittsburgh for
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the Bears, the Bear I forgot he had als?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He has als. A lot, man, It's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I just think what I've learned, despite all the information,
despite all the doctor's notes and all these new details
and studies, these players would not give it up.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's just something that I think average person can't understand.
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Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know what the big thing is, So I've just
jj Reddick recently told the media that they're going to
get up today that they're gonna get Bronnie in the
game and they're going to try to do it in
the flow of the game, correct, robg right in the
flow of the game. And you just wonder, I get it,
you know, like this whole build up and it's national
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television and instead of just letting it happen because there's
that moment on that situation where you could put in
a rookie who it just feels weird that just because
you make a team and you're a rookie done when
you play game one or you get you know, playing time.
That's why the whole thing doesn't feel right because it's
not organic. And even you know, the Griffies are gonna
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be there, Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy Junior. The
difference in the dynamic of that is that Junior was
the star and Dad was the veteran right left handed
bat off the bench. That was a real job for
somebody to have and you could say, yeah, we need
a left handed bat off the bench. Why not to
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be senior, right, he could still hit and go you
know and d H or whatever it is, but he
wanted to start a team.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
This is like so different because the.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Dad, the older guy, is still the star and the
young guy, Bronnie isn't.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So it doesn't feel organic.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And that's why it's gonna feel a lot of people
won't embrace this because it doesn't feel organic. And I
totally get that. There are some people who will be repulsed,
actually buy it, saying that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Is that you because I had you with the you know,
if there wasn't organic with its No, there are there.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Are people who think that sports is the last place,
especially when you talk about we talk about this all
the time in this country where a country could be
sixty some odd seventy percent white and the National Football
League is seventy percent black, because it's not based on anything.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Other than your talent. You have to earn your way on.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You can't say that in any other business in this country,
for you know, like management or youtocracy, the.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
True, true, the truest.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And that's the same thing in baseball where you have
the Hispanic players, the black players.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It's not a league Japanese.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
They got players from Japan who are who the highest
paid players, not for any other reason other than their talent.
And we don't care what they look like, we don't
care where they come from. Can he play? Can he hit?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Can he play?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We're gonnaive him some hundred million dollars? And this is
where people who believe in that and love the idea
of this the best person makes the team has a
hard time with.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It in a vacuum. I don't disagree with anything you
just said. I think there are in anything of life,
there is cause for an exception, There is an anomaly,
There is a exception to the rule, and I just
think you're looking at one because again, this has never
happened before in the NBA. There's a great chance it
never happens unless Wimby has a kid like right now,
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and then maybe there's a chance if Wimby plays another
eighteen twenty years, because you know, he looks like he's
going to be a great what have you. This is
just something I think is so fascinating. We heard about
the possibility that is happening maybe four or five years ago,
and it was a far fetched idea. Maybe in a
perfect world. It can happen if the stars aligned, well,
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da get Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
The stars aligned.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And this isn't just the only way to make this
happen is you have to be able to contrive. Is
it has to be a little uh not organic in
the sense that it has to be planned out, because
it would be different if Bronni just happened to make
the NBA. Lebron specifically said, and so as Bronnie, I
want to play with my father, I want to play
with my son. And in order to make that happen,
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you gotta vocalize it. You gotta talk to the team.
The team has to figure out a way to make
it happen. It isn't just circumstance that you actually get
to play with him, not just in the NBA, you
play with him. But agreeing that this had to be orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
No, but the idea that he even plays on opening night,
on a rookie on a rookie goal didn't even look
good in the preseason. Is the other part that where
people if Ronnie balled out, like who's the.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Other rookie that connect? Don't connect?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, And like if you balled all that, there would
be no question. There would be none of that. There
would be no hate, no dislike of it, no sour pusses,
sour faces, because he's earned his way on sure, he
should get some playing time. Did you see them ball
out in the preseason? No, but Bronni until the last
game where he finally got some points. Right, he scored
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seventeen point but other than that, he didn't look that good.
So people are looking at this as saying, this feels
like a photo op for lebron. This is about Lebron,
not about Bronny. It's about Lebron to have a photo op,
to be able to say, see, I was the all
all right, forget that I lost the most NBA finals
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of any other.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Because forget about that.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I want you to know that I'm the all time
leading scorer because I played like thirty seasons. And I
want you to also know that my kid played even
though Michael Jordan owned the Charlotte Bobcats or whatever they
would call the Hornets Bobcat right, and he could have
easily put his two sons on a team if he
wanted to. He own the team, but never did that,
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Like that's a feather in his have and that's what
this feels like.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
To But I don't disagree. I think this is a
feather in his cat. I think this is a scratch
that the Lakers helped him itch, and it's the scratch,
And I think this is something the league is embracing.
I think the league wanted to see this. Listen, you've
been covering this too long and not understand that this
is also entertainment. Sometimes I think we get to where
we act it's to sell any more tickets.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Tonight, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's a story being told, Robin not saying that they
the Lakers, don't need to sell they.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's the same.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, that's like saying the Yankees don't need stars, or
they're the Yankees. No, you still need story, You need stars,
you need story. He's not gonna be playing you keep
telling me.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Wait a minute, I'm asking you if you're telling me that,
But you're sitting here saying he's going to play a
couple of games and then go down to So what.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Does that have to do with that story happened?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Because to night, everybody's tuning in to see this historic moment,
the moment that a father plays with his son, not
in a random game or not. Oh, on the same thing.
On Opening Day, everyone's tuning in. Everyone's gonna be there,
including the Griffies, and this is gonna be a moment,
and the moment will have been had, and then they're
gonna get down to brass sacks and say, all right, Bronnie,
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we need you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
To go get better, and they're gonna send them down
to the G League.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Whether it be tonight or in the next two or
three games, he's gonna go to the G League for
a while and he's gonna get better. And that Lebron
and Bronni can check that box, can say that we
did that, we were able to play together, be the
first to ever do that.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What a cool moment. I don't see the big issue.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I can understand what you're saying, with maybe some other
folks are saying, I don't see the big issue in
this because I looked at the list of the last
twenty years of the number fifty five pick. When I
tell you you will not know a single name on there.
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Like soya got a four year geft fully guaranteed contract.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
How many played Opening Night?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's but my point is, my point is none of
them none of them deserved it. None of them even
really played outside of a year. So I mean none
of them. Like when you look at these names, I mean,
I know the NBA, I love the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I watched.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't know hardly any of these names. I don't
even know. If they walked into me right now, I
wouldn't know. So my point is we got to stop
bacting like them taking a gamble on a fifty fifth pick,
doing a favor for the guy Lebron and doing something
cool that the NBA has never seen happen, and being
a part of that for a game or two.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And then he's going to the G League. What's the
big deal?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Like, I don't get I don't even believe he's going
to the G League. He's not about to sit there
and just be playing every game.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Here's the reason why I don't think so. And here's
the danger if you send them to the league. You
send them to the G league and he doesn't play well,
or doesn't shoot well, or is getting cooked every night
down in the G League.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Because these kids are trying to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And they're like this, yeah they're ready, yeah, okay, they're
ready to go at him every single night, okay, And
and he's not shooting well, he's the airballing whatever, misson lea,
whatever it is. That doesn't bode well for him to
get back into the league. To even make it legit. Oh,
wait a minute, le Broni's shooting thirty two percent, thirty
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percent from the field in the G League. How can
you justify bringing him back up later in the season.
Lebron can make the case he can learn better from
me here with the coaches, with whatever practice against the
best of the best. I'm telling you, I'm not buying
that he's going to the GI. He's going to the
G League because he's gonna go down there. He's gonna
play against these other young cats, whether they be just
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now rookies or guys two three years in the league
competing and trying to get a job in the spot.
He's gonna go down there, he's gonna develop, he's gonna
get better.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
This is Lebron. He has his own personal coaches. I'm
sure if he doesn't play well, there is that help. Well, no,
it doesn't. No, I think you're the only person who
has these high expectations for him at nineteen twenty years old,
who just came off cardiac arrest last year. Nobody's expected
him to be a world beater. So if he's down
in the G League on and off for two years,
who cares? That's what most guys, the fifty fifth pick
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just don't believe that Lebron went through this, got all
these just tonight, this just most of the year. I
don't believe it absolutely. And if the end of the
season the Lakers make the postseason, I don't know. And
then they bring him up and he rides the bencher,
then that's fine. The idea is I wanted to play
with it, and Lebron's not leaving the Lakers, right, we
(23:18):
all agree on that for another couple of years. So
then I got a shot to play with him next
year where he'll play more.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
This year is about playing with him. We did it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
We did something never done before. We had a ceremonial
game or two. I'll see him back in March or April.
Maybe he'll make the playoff roster. He don't play in
the NBA this year. Give me your number eight, ish,
rob G. Where are you Laker fan? How many over
under eight? Or just told play four or five early
(23:46):
and then come back towards the end of the season
and be on the playoff roster.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Game you're saying playing as in more than three minutes, right, No,
I was saying just on the total gets. You say
he's gonna get into eight games. No, no, no, I
thought you might be active on the real roster. So
you're saying he's not gonna get in that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
He's gonna get into how many games? He'll probably get
into six or something. I mean he's not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He's gonna play the first couple just to get ceremony.
This is what we have him here for. How many games?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You got four? Yeah, it's not gonna play a lot.
I think he plays tonight and then doesn't play again.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Until maybe end of the season, the clinch, and then
you know they just want to he's I'm not buying
it is not playing in November. He's not playing Christmas Day.
Stop it, Ron, it's gonna be. This's gonna be. I'm
starting for the Lakers on Christmas Day. It's Bronnie and Lebron. No,
he's not a one shot. Yes it is, but it's
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not a one shot deal because he's gonna play next year.
That's what I'm trying to tell you he's gonna go
down the G League on and off for two years.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Don't know about Lebron. Lebron's health and his age. You
don't know how many.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Years he's got left A many years.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
You're saying that of the contract, But that doesn't mean
he's been hurt a lot already here in LA.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But yeah, but that part I can't say, yeah, of
course not.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
But I'm just saying, if you get the odds that
he's been hurt a lot, right, and now he's only
getting older, you can't sit here and go two years
from that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Gonna play unless his knee rips off the shreds. Lebron
is not retiring this year. Why are we safe retiring?
But I'm just saying next year he's gonna play with
Lebrony again. He's on a he's a multi year contract.
They're gonna play more next year.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think I think you guys, don't, you're underestimating Lebron.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think Lebron's gonna get his fixed. We did this
moment now and he's fully aware my son needs to
go get better.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
No, that's why he got the coach that he wanted
to say. He wants JJ Reddick to cheat the coach.
He wants Bronny to learn from his trying to win
a champion. Who's the coach down in the u G League.
Nobody even knows who he is. Lebron's gonna send his
kid there to play for that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Give me thousand people, plus our own private coaches, go
get better while we try to win this championship. We'll
bring you well, how at you in March and April.
We'll bring you back up then
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brusha and Rob Harker.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
But let's start here with the NFL last night, Yeah,
Monday Night football.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Your man Crush.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I have a big one on him because I think
he's that guy. He's something special that we're watching. And
this is what I don't like. Okay, I get it
that eventually we need to tally up see where people
fit in. Right. We've talked about this before, But if
your only focus is about his postseason record and that
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he hasn't won a Super Bowl, I think you're miss guided.
I really do, because you can't win a super Bowl
right now. It's October, so to talk about that doesn't
make any sense because he can't do anything right here.
And what I mean is, have you watched this guy?
You just watched last night?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Five?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
He had as many he had as many touchdowns as
Patrick Mahomes has all year passing. Patrick Mahomes has six
passing touchdowns and Lamar throw for five last night.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That Patt needs to get right with that one is
that unbelievable. Patt needs some get right.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
And did you see that forty nine yard pass down?
So carol in to the sideline chucked it down.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah, beautiful pass. His throwing continues to get better and improve.
We know what a threat he is on the ground
and the moves that he makes and all the other things.
And now he has Derrick Henry in the backfield with him.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Forget about it.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And he even said it on the interview after we're
to pick your poison offense?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Which one? Which one you're gonna take?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I can't believe the league let the Derrick Henry go
to the already John Harbaugh, who wants to run the
ball all the time, whether it's for the quarterback or
running backs. And then you give him arguably the one,
two three best back in the entire NFL, who has
a point to prove, who's on a mission. I don't
know how the league let that happen. He is absolutely remarkable.
(02:24):
And the one thing I hate about this era of sports,
specifically sports conversation is that we have to talk.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
You know, Rob G and I talked about this. I
hate ring talk all the time.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm out about it at times, but when that's the
end of every conversation, he didn't have a ring or
he has twenty rings, he has six rings?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Like, can we just marvel sometimes?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Can I look at Lamar Jackson like, yo, dude is
incredible and he is taking it upon his own shoulder.
Put it on the shoulders last season he said, I
gotta get better, and he talked about it. He said,
all I'm caring about is looking the same every game
and he being consistent out ball out every single night.
And he's done that. And a shout out to a
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colleague of ours. Jamiel Hill has a new show, Above
the Fold, and it's on True TV. I happened to
be a guest, the first guest at air today, will
be airon later as well. But that was one of
the conversations was MVP, and she asked, I know you're
Alliance fan Jared Goff even though I'm a Homer. I said,
hold on, Jared looks great, but there's a raining MVP
who looks like he might get another one again in Lamar,
(03:27):
And it's just remarkable to what he's doing. And I
think you and I feel the same way that I
just go into any game going how do you beat him?
And slash them? How do you beat him? You might
beat him, but I can't go in and seeing how
you can beat them. Here's here's some numbers.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Just last night was the fifth career game in which
Lamar recorded five plus passing touchdowns and zero interceptions, the
most such performance in the NFL since he entered it
in twenty eighteen. It was his fifth career game with
one hundred and fifty five plus passer rating, tying him
(04:03):
with Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger for the most such
games in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
This is the stuff we're talking about.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And here's the reason why you can't fully hold up
with uh just it always being postseason talk because somehow,
some way, people used to make a case for Dann
Marino being the great, being the goat quarterback this fight
never winning. He went to the Super Bowl second year
(04:33):
and he never and he didn't win, and he never
went back. But people used to marvel at his numbers.
He was thrown for four or five thousand yards way
before people did that, you know in the old NFL,
and my other poor and and and uh, who who
are you thinking of?
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Rod? Where? Wait? Quarterback or Woodson? I'm sorry Rod Woodson.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
He says that Dan Marino is his goal cout quarterback,
that he was the best he ever saw.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If you're talking about talent, yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That was his guy, and he didn't go well, he
never won, so I can't look at him that way.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
And that's my point.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
And anybody who really thinks that Lamar is not going
to win, I think you're crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I think it's just a matter of top To me,
I'm pretty good at picking a sport and calling out
like okay, this person's gonna win. It might be one year,
one year, ten like okay, this person's gonna win. And
it's a handful as we talk NBA talk as well.
I think there's a few young NBA players they're gonna
win a championship. Like Wemby is going to win a championship.
It's an impossibility that he won't is barring injury. If
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he has a long ten to fifteen year career. Winby
will and Lamar Jackson's going to win because the reason
why he's so gifted, he's so talented, he puts in
the work. He has an organization that believes in him.
He has an organization and a coach that continue to
find ways for him to succeed. And when you do that,
all you keep doing is knocking on that door, knocking
on that door, and eventually the door is gonna open,
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or it's gonna cracker, or you're gonna kick that mug down.
And so Lamar Jackson absolutely is gonna win one. He's
gonna get back there enough times and have a shot
at it to get one. I'm not saying he's gonna
win multiple, but the way in which he plays, the
way in which he prepares, the way in which that
team surround I love that they embody his identity.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, for years teams were going, well, fit what
we do, here's our mold, do this exactly how we
do it, This is how we are, this is how
we structured fit into this John Harball and all of
them said, we got this guy with this unique skill set,
what do we need for him, dude to win? And
I like that about that organization.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I would say that that those are the best coaches
are the ones who alter their race. Because I remember
when Pat Rodley, I thought his best coaching job was
when he left the Lakers came to the Knicks and
made them into a team that vibe, were viable for
championship even though they didn't have the talent that he
had with the Lakers. He knew he couldn't do showtime
(06:56):
with Patrick Ewan and those guys, so he totally changed
his coaching and then again with the Heat, right, And
that's what I'm saying, that's a coach to me, You
look at what do I have here.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
I can't do this. I gotta do this. Let me
make this to put people in the best situation.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
You're able to cook the best meal with the ingredients
you got, and that's what John Harbaugh.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Peanut butter and jelly. You gotta have milk.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No, I don't have those ingredients, but I can still
have the PBNJ with with the water. With the pop
aka and soda, you can still have the people this
gross a soda. With that, you're probably gonna have some
chips with the two. And if you have chips, peanut
butter and jelly, sandwich.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
What's wrong with that? I can't mix, so I didn't realize.
You know, I can't even have my food touching each
other on a plate. Oh you're one of those. Yeah,
my food cannot touch.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
On the polar opposite equal portions. Now, let's say you
have chicken broccoli rice.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
No, I don't.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I have to go chicken broccoli, rice chicken till there's
literally one morsel of each, so that that last bite
is just no.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't want my chicken touching the spinach. I don't
want my spinach touching the corn.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I'm starting to really think you are segregatis whatever I'm
trying to say, you like things segregated.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
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Speaker 1 (08:14):
This is an interesting conversation. We knew it was coming, Rob,
just because eventually the opportunity for Tua to come back
after having his third concussion which looked bad again, and
by the way, the irony of it was having Damar
Hamlin be the one who hit him. And you know
we already know what he went through, Damar Hamlin, So
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two I had that we had sound on this too. It.
This is what two I had to say finally being
asked about coming back into bout the whole.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Cook plays earlier.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sunday's right, he's starting to practice now concussion situation. Here's
what he had to say.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
What would you say to those that are worried that
you might get hurt again? And this is oh that's
going to continue.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this game,
and I love it to the death of me.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
I love it to the death of me. You've been
covering this. I've been covering this is nineteen eighty seven.
We know I've been coming to the NFL since nineteen
eighty seven. Yeah, well, thank you for getting that out
of the way. We know, no, and I've been doing
this for quite some time as well. And anytime you
spend time with these former athletes, specifically NFL players, what
you learn.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Man, they wouldn't trade it for the world.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
They know it. You can ask him, would you let
your son play? I'd rather him not. Would you go back? Ye? No,
Salam will not let his boys. That's what I'm saying
from anybody. I've asked most of them. Now again, they
can't control their they would rather not. And then if
you ask them, well, knowing all of this, knowing CTE possibilities,
and knowing your limping, knowing your fingers are all noted,
(09:42):
how about how many? How about how many NFL players
commit suicide? Knowing how many players have committed suicide? We
see that more and more. We know the data. Now
we know the information. Now would you do it again?
I've not met one yet that has said no. And
it's the glory.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
We all all. They're making mealk.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's not just the money, because when you're a five
year old running in the backyard, running around in your
hometown playing football and the sandlot and the grass and
the field, it ain't about money. It's about being the best,
having fun playing the game you love. And a venue
goes to pee wee League, then it goes to middle
school or high school, then it goes to college. Then
you get the pro and yes, the money's good, and
(10:19):
yes you might get the ladies, and yes you get
all the endorsement. But at the end of the day, man,
they just love the game. They want It's the glory,
it's the locker room, it's the clubhouse. There's nowhere else where,
one of the things always here. There's nowhere else where.
You walk out and seventy five thousand people are screaming
your name, one hundred thousand in college stadiums, they're cheering
(10:39):
for you, the roar of the crowd. That's a hard
thing to get rid of. And so I knew too
it was gonna come back and play.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I don't like to quote where to die for it,
just the whole even to even talk about, you know.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
I think that's a real thing.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I think I know, but I'm just saying to put
it on the line, and if that's what happens, that's
what happens, and you and I that sounds it's crazy,
just the idea.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I understand if you just feel like I I think that,
you know, you feel like I'm just gonna give it
a shot. I still feel like I can play and
stay healthy or whatever. I'd rather hear that than this
to the death of me.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
You know what I think he's telling you, Really, I
think what I heard from that Rob. I've talked to doctors,
I've talked to my counselors, I've talked to my parents,
my family, I've talked to maybe if he's got a
lady or whatever in his life.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I think his point was I know all the inherent dangers,
inherent dangers, I know the possibilities, I know the history
and now that we know more about this medical situation,
ct But at the end of the day, I think
he's like, I'm willing to die for this. This is
what I believe I was put on earth for. And
you and I are like, I can't believe, Like, no
way you would do that. And I just think most
(11:49):
of these players are built that way, and for us,
it's irrational. It doesn't make sense, don't you know, CTE,
don't you know this. I think they're like, man, this
is what I'm here for. I'm willing to die for.
And again, it doesn't make sense per se to us.
It doesn't shock me hearing it from him.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, I agree to a certain extent.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like I said, just the idea that even the term
you know, the death thing.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Right you want to kno, you know, right, all right,
because gods have died on the field like.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Guys and post right you mentioned it. A lot of
guys who have CTE.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
We've seen them struggle and take their own lives or
just struggle with als.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I've heard guys talk about that they've got ringing in
their ears that hasn't stopped for years.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
Jim McMahon, if you've kept up with it, he's going
through the quarterback for the Bears in the eighties. What
he's going through? Bad stuff, man, he said. Man, he'll
come back. His wife will be like, why are you
still here? He'd be like, I don't even remember what
was I supposed to be doing? Where am I going?
Who's the other one? The former Eric Kramer with the Lions,
Eric Kramer? Another going through a lot of who just
got in the Hall of Fame for the Pittsburgh for
(12:55):
the Bears, the Bear I forgot he had als?
Speaker 4 (12:59):
He has als. A lot, man, It's a lot going on.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
But I just think what I've learned, despite all the information,
despite all the doctor's notes and all these new details
and studies, these players would not give it up.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Man.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
It's just something that I think average person can't understand.
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Speaker 3 (13:26):
You know what the big thing is, So I've just
jj Reddick recently told the media that they're going to
get up today that they're gonna get Bronnie in the
game and they're going to try to do it in
the flow of the game, correct, robg right in the
flow of the game. And you just wonder, I get it,
you know, like this whole build up and it's national
(13:48):
television and instead of just letting it happen because there's
that moment on that situation where you could put in
a rookie who it just feels weird that just because
you make a team and you're a rookie done when
you play game one or you get you know, playing time.
That's why the whole thing doesn't feel right because it's
not organic. And even you know, the Griffies are gonna
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be there, Ken Griffy Senior and Ken Griffy Junior. The
difference in the dynamic of that is that Junior was
the star and Dad was the veteran right left handed
bat off the bench. That was a real job for
somebody to have and you could say, yeah, we need
a left handed bat off the bench. Why not to
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be senior, right, he could still hit and go you
know and d H or whatever it is, but he
wanted to start a team.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
This is like so different because the.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Dad, the older guy, is still the star and the
young guy, Bronnie isn't.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
So it doesn't feel organic.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
And that's why it's gonna feel a lot of people
won't embrace this because it doesn't feel organic. And I
totally get that. There are some people who will be repulsed,
actually buy it, saying that.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Is that you because I had you with the you know,
if there wasn't organic with its No, there are there.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
Are people who think that sports is the last place,
especially when you talk about we talk about this all
the time in this country where a country could be
sixty some odd seventy percent white and the National Football
League is seventy percent black, because it's not based on anything.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Other than your talent. You have to earn your way on.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
You can't say that in any other business in this country,
for you know, like management or youtocracy, the.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
True, true, the truest.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
And that's the same thing in baseball where you have
the Hispanic players, the black players.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
It's not a league Japanese.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
They got players from Japan who are who the highest
paid players, not for any other reason other than their talent.
And we don't care what they look like, we don't
care where they come from. Can he play? Can he hit?
Speaker 4 (15:59):
Can he play?
Speaker 3 (16:00):
We're gonnaive him some hundred million dollars? And this is
where people who believe in that and love the idea
of this the best person makes the team has a
hard time with.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It in a vacuum. I don't disagree with anything you
just said. I think there are in anything of life,
there is cause for an exception, There is an anomaly,
There is a exception to the rule, and I just
think you're looking at one because again, this has never
happened before in the NBA. There's a great chance it
never happens unless Wimby has a kid like right now,
(16:35):
and then maybe there's a chance if Wimby plays another
eighteen twenty years, because you know, he looks like he's
going to be a great what have you. This is
just something I think is so fascinating. We heard about
the possibility that is happening maybe four or five years ago,
and it was a far fetched idea. Maybe in a
perfect world. It can happen if the stars aligned, well,
(16:57):
da get Rob Parker.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
The stars aligned.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And this isn't just the only way to make this
happen is you have to be able to contrive. Is
it has to be a little uh not organic in
the sense that it has to be planned out, because
it would be different if Bronni just happened to make
the NBA. Lebron specifically said, and so as Bronnie, I
want to play with my father, I want to play
with my son. And in order to make that happen,
(17:21):
you gotta vocalize it. You gotta talk to the team.
The team has to figure out a way to make
it happen. It isn't just circumstance that you actually get
to play with him, not just in the NBA, you
play with him. But agreeing that this had to be orchestrated.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
No, but the idea that he even plays on opening night,
on a rookie on a rookie goal didn't even look
good in the preseason. Is the other part that where
people if Ronnie balled out, like who's the.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Other rookie that connect? Don't connect?
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, And like if you balled all that, there would
be no question. There would be none of that. There
would be no hate, no dislike of it, no sour pusses,
sour faces, because he's earned his way on sure, he
should get some playing time. Did you see them ball
out in the preseason? No, but Bronni until the last
game where he finally got some points. Right, he scored
(18:09):
seventeen point but other than that, he didn't look that good.
So people are looking at this as saying, this feels
like a photo op for lebron. This is about Lebron,
not about Bronny. It's about Lebron to have a photo op,
to be able to say, see, I was the all
all right, forget that I lost the most NBA finals
(18:31):
of any other.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Because forget about that.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I want you to know that I'm the all time
leading scorer because I played like thirty seasons. And I
want you to also know that my kid played even
though Michael Jordan owned the Charlotte Bobcats or whatever they
would call the Hornets Bobcat right, and he could have
easily put his two sons on a team if he
wanted to. He own the team, but never did that,
(18:58):
Like that's a feather in his have and that's what
this feels like.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
To But I don't disagree. I think this is a
feather in his cat. I think this is a scratch
that the Lakers helped him itch, and it's the scratch,
And I think this is something the league is embracing.
I think the league wanted to see this. Listen, you've
been covering this too long and not understand that this
is also entertainment. Sometimes I think we get to where
we act it's to sell any more tickets.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Tonight, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
It's a story being told, Robin not saying that they
the Lakers, don't need to sell they.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It's the same.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Okay, that's like saying the Yankees don't need stars, or
they're the Yankees. No, you still need story, You need stars,
you need story. He's not gonna be playing you keep
telling me.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Wait a minute, I'm asking you if you're telling me that,
But you're sitting here saying he's going to play a
couple of games and then go down to So what.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Does that have to do with that story happened?
Speaker 1 (19:51):
Because to night, everybody's tuning in to see this historic moment,
the moment that a father plays with his son, not
in a random game or not. Oh, on the same thing.
On Opening Day, everyone's tuning in. Everyone's gonna be there,
including the Griffies, and this is gonna be a moment,
and the moment will have been had, and then they're
gonna get down to brass sacks and say, all right, Bronnie,
(20:12):
we need you.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
To go get better, and they're gonna send them down
to the G League.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Whether it be tonight or in the next two or
three games, he's gonna go to the G League for
a while and he's gonna get better. And that Lebron
and Bronni can check that box, can say that we
did that, we were able to play together, be the
first to ever do that.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
What a cool moment. I don't see the big issue.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I can understand what you're saying, with maybe some other
folks are saying, I don't see the big issue in
this because I looked at the list of the last
twenty years of the number fifty five pick. When I
tell you you will not know a single name on there.
It is ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Like soya got a four year geft fully guaranteed contract.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
How many played Opening Night?
Speaker 1 (20:54):
That's but my point is, my point is none of
them none of them deserved it. None of them even
really played outside of a year. So I mean none
of them. Like when you look at these names, I mean,
I know the NBA, I love the NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I watched.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
I don't know hardly any of these names. I don't
even know. If they walked into me right now, I
wouldn't know. So my point is we got to stop
bacting like them taking a gamble on a fifty fifth pick,
doing a favor for the guy Lebron and doing something
cool that the NBA has never seen happen, and being
a part of that for a game or two.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
And then he's going to the G League. What's the
big deal?
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Like, I don't get I don't even believe he's going
to the G League. He's not about to sit there
and just be playing every game.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Here's the reason why I don't think so. And here's
the danger if you send them to the league. You
send them to the G league and he doesn't play well,
or doesn't shoot well, or is getting cooked every night
down in the G League.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
Because these kids are trying to make it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
And they're like this, yeah they're ready, yeah, okay, they're
ready to go at him every single night, okay, And
and he's not shooting well, he's the airballing whatever, misson lea,
whatever it is. That doesn't bode well for him to
get back into the league. To even make it legit. Oh,
wait a minute, le Broni's shooting thirty two percent, thirty
(22:06):
percent from the field in the G League. How can
you justify bringing him back up later in the season.
Lebron can make the case he can learn better from
me here with the coaches, with whatever practice against the
best of the best. I'm telling you, I'm not buying
that he's going to the GI. He's going to the
G League because he's gonna go down there. He's gonna
play against these other young cats, whether they be just
(22:28):
now rookies or guys two three years in the league
competing and trying to get a job in the spot.
He's gonna go down there, he's gonna develop, he's gonna
get better.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
This is Lebron. He has his own personal coaches. I'm
sure if he doesn't play well, there is that help. Well, no,
it doesn't. No, I think you're the only person who
has these high expectations for him at nineteen twenty years old,
who just came off cardiac arrest last year. Nobody's expected
him to be a world beater. So if he's down
in the G League on and off for two years,
who cares? That's what most guys, the fifty fifth pick
(22:57):
just don't believe that Lebron went through this, got all
these just tonight, this just most of the year. I
don't believe it absolutely. And if the end of the
season the Lakers make the postseason, I don't know. And
then they bring him up and he rides the bencher,
then that's fine. The idea is I wanted to play
with it, and Lebron's not leaving the Lakers, right, we
(23:18):
all agree on that for another couple of years. So
then I got a shot to play with him next
year where he'll play more.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
This year is about playing with him. We did it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
We did something never done before. We had a ceremonial
game or two. I'll see him back in March or April.
Maybe he'll make the playoff roster. He don't play in
the NBA this year. Give me your number eight, ish,
rob G. Where are you Laker fan? How many over
under eight? Or just told play four or five early
(23:46):
and then come back towards the end of the season
and be on the playoff roster.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
Game you're saying playing as in more than three minutes, right, No,
I was saying just on the total gets. You say
he's gonna get into eight games. No, no, no, I
thought you might be active on the real roster. So
you're saying he's not gonna get in that.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
He's not.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
He's gonna get into how many games? He'll probably get
into six or something. I mean he's not.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
He's gonna play the first couple just to get ceremony.
This is what we have him here for. How many games?
Speaker 4 (24:13):
You got four? Yeah, it's not gonna play a lot.
I think he plays tonight and then doesn't play again.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Until maybe end of the season, the clinch, and then
you know they just want to he's I'm not buying
it is not playing in November. He's not playing Christmas Day.
Stop it, Ron, it's gonna be. This's gonna be. I'm
starting for the Lakers on Christmas Day. It's Bronnie and Lebron. No,
he's not a one shot. Yes it is, but it's
(24:39):
not a one shot deal because he's gonna play next year.
That's what I'm trying to tell you he's gonna go
down the G League on and off for two years.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Don't know about Lebron. Lebron's health and his age. You
don't know how many.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Years he's got left A many years.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
You're saying that of the contract, But that doesn't mean
he's been hurt a lot already here in LA.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
But yeah, but that part I can't say, yeah, of
course not.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
But I'm just saying, if you get the odds that
he's been hurt a lot, right, and now he's only
getting older, you can't sit here and go two years
from that.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Gonna play unless his knee rips off the shreds. Lebron
is not retiring this year. Why are we safe retiring?
But I'm just saying next year he's gonna play with
Lebrony again. He's on a he's a multi year contract.
They're gonna play more next year.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
I think I think you guys, don't, you're underestimating Lebron.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
I think Lebron's gonna get his fixed. We did this
moment now and he's fully aware my son needs to
go get better.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
No, that's why he got the coach that he wanted
to say. He wants JJ Reddick to cheat the coach.
He wants Bronny to learn from his trying to win
a champion. Who's the coach down in the u G League.
Nobody even knows who he is. Lebron's gonna send his
kid there to play for that guy.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Give me thousand people, plus our own private coaches, go
get better while we try to win this championship. We'll
bring you well, how at you in March and April.
We'll bring you back up then
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