February 20, 2025 • 43 mins
Kelvin Washington & Rob Parker talk about LeBron James being somewhat not clutch. Plus, the guys talk more on Bobby Portis's suspension, Missouri coach Dennis Gates stance on storing the court, and more!
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Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, we got to talk to him about that.
You know, some big NBA news today.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Obviously we'll do that, but let's start here. Uh, Lebron James,
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So, Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know when I told you I was picking the Hornets,
You remember, you gave me the stink eye last night.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I did that. I did, and everybody had them going
to the finals. I'm a hater. Oh my god, what
blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Forget what I was saying, like, Hey, who's gonna play defense?
Who's going to be the rent protector? And guess what,
even the Hornets figured that out. Dude, there's no rint protector, right. Uh.
They went at Luca, they went at him. That every
team's gonna do that, right, Yeah, that that you know
what I'm saying. We all know that from last year.
But they got really exposed in the playoffs. They was like,
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we you.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Might drop sixty on us, we were gonna get Yeah,
we going at you.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Uh so you know, the the crux of it is
that they lost and Lebron had a chance to tie
the game twice in the final law I don't know,
final minute or whatever, right, final thirty seconds or whatever,
and he missed them both, and then all of a
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sudden from the two misses came the stat of the year. Kelvin,
When you saw the stat, what did you think? Off
before I even say what the status? What did you think?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Are you saying if you would have asked me prior
to be ever knowing this that I definitely would have
thought it was better than that. By the way, the
stat were talking about his Lebron's run with the Lakers
and last game winning game time shots.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So he has he's had thirty shots at it right,
which is a game time or go ahead field goal
five seconds left in either the fourth quarter or overtime overtime,
So it's a it's a finite, but it's enough simple size.
Would you say that's fine? Yeah, that's a big novel.
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Some people are like, oh, well, are so specific? Okay,
five seconds I mean and thirty tries at it. That's
a lot of tries since he's been with the Lakers.
That's a very it is very specific.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But because the number, though thirty, is still a lot,
it's not three, not five seconds and five shots?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
All right? You know that wouldn't really move me anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Whoever, anybody who under rock didn't know what the number is.
He's one for twenty nine. That's crazy, not clutch. That
is crazy as far as the Lakers are concerned. And
that is a staggering number, especially since for the most part,
Lebron can take the ball to the basket almost all
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the time and get a foul or what. He doesn't
always have to shoot from the perimeter. I don't care
what defense they got on you. He can just drive
past still go past people for a basket late in
the game. And so obviously the thought was is Lebron
clutch or not? And what do you think now? Your
thought before this was he's clutch yet? Well, because I
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would have been questioned it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, Well the question for me would or the context
would have to be are we saying in a purple
and gold jersey or the duration of his.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Talking about for me, Lebron, they got a championship.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, and his plays had a number of chances here
in LA and it's been an uneven would you admit
it's an uneven Lakers run because they didn't make the
playoffs a couple of times they've got the play in
they've been knocked out early.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's been to the west. It's been a mixed bag
of nuts. But overall, I think even he would agree
it's been disappointing. Right, he got the ultimate thing, which
was a ring, so he's forever Davis. But that's where
you would want more if I told you I had
Anthony Davis in his prime.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's the other key component to this.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Lebron still in the twilight, but still prime ish the
first few years, right, you know what I mean, Because
obviously at this point he's forty. I don't expect him
to be what he used to be. But I got
prime eight, I got prime Lebron and some pieces here
and there. I would think that'd be enough that we
got to the finals again, even if we lost, but
we got to the finals again at least one more time,
so I would expect to that. But as far as
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the clutch factor, So here's the thing with Lebron, I
think overall he has been clutching his career, and the
numbers go that way as well, because when you look
up the numbers, really only it's Jordan, He and Kobe
when it comes to clutch shots in the duration of
their career, and even game winners, so he has Michael
Jordan has the most at nine when you're talking about
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actual buzzer beaters and game winners, which is not surprised.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And when we talk about Michael Jordan at all, people
always talk about, Oh, you're just talking about because he's six,
and oh no, No, it's not because he's just six,
and oh no. That's why I say he led the
league in scoring for ten straight years. Look at all
the defensive awards he won.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's why he is the greatest basketball player of all time.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
If you ask who has the most in their tool belt,
that's Lebron, meaning just the best as far as you
can do all of these things, that's Lebron. But Mike's
the goat. I don't argue that. So here's the Mike.
Let's look at the stats. Michael Jordan has the most
game winning shots in NBA history at twenty eight. He
has nine actual game buzzer beaters. Kobe is second with eight.
When it comes to literally in the game is over,
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Lebron is second with seventeen game winning shots, and he's
tied for third with Paul Pierce for seven actual buzzer beaters,
many seven actual buzzer beats.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
See here's the.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Other thing too, And this is where Lebron gets hurt.
The longer he plays the worst those numbers, because if
you look at that, you say, Michael had nine buzzer beaters,
yeah in thirteen, yeah, thirteen to forty year. The only
other the only counter to that would be the other
two guys in that list. So four, if you took
the four guys, three of the four played a long time.
(09:41):
Paul Piers, Kobe, Bryant, Lebron Jordan is the anomaly and
all that right now. But I'm saying, but the longer
he goes, the longer he goes than anything could potentially
make it where the number sounds skewed right, like he
only went to the only one four when he played
twenty Let's say he goes another two more years, like
twenty four years, twenty four years, the only one four champions,
So that was that's crazy out of context.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's what happens when you play a long time, is
that you start to look and go, is that really impressive?
I'll give you one real quick baseball pitcher Tommy John
pitched twenty five Major League seasons. Yep, of course to
Tommy John left ended pitcher.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Is he is he the underwear too? No? I know
I thought that too, because I might even have some
own right now that y'all cared about my underwear. But no,
who is that? Who's that name? Somebody and some licenses
or something somebody else named Tommy John.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Scared I was gonna have to get a surgery when
I put this underwear on. Patrick, I thought he was
gonna have to. Yeah, you put the underwear on, we
gotta cut your elbow.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Hey, But Tommy John played twenty five years, and then
if you average out how many wins, like eight or
something like, he averaged like eleven wins, he's like so,
so he's not in the Hall of Fame. And he
claims that he thinks he should be as a high
total of wins, but it's just not because he pitched
so long. And that's where people go, well, you should
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have two hundred and eighty wins you played twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, so here's my to put it. To put a
button on Lebron and clutch me. Lebron James is clutch.
There are people I would place above him. Michael Jordan
obviously be one Reggie Miller for me for saying, hey,
last second shot, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird is a handful
of guys. But absolutely I believe Lebron is clutch. The
issue with Lebron has been, and this is key in life,
people's first time, their first perception of you is often
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how they'll then think of.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You, period.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And so he came up short a few times early,
or he didn't even come up short in the sense
if he missed the shot, he just passed the ball
because it was the right basketball play.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
They triple team me. Guy was opening the corner. Why
would I not pass it to that guy? Yeah, that
was always true. I agree. So that hurt him in
the early phase.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But then he had a run that middle two thirds
of his career where he was in buzzer beaters, running
through people in the playoffs. He has five actual buzzer
beaters in playoff games. Another clutch statistic, I mean, And
so he became clutch. But we hold those first few
years against them, and I talked that in life.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Now we got a back end.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But even with Jordan, like Judge, you by like the
peak of your like on George Wizards, Jeordan.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, the longer.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You can't do it like that, And I'm gonna tell
you why, because then are you not counting his points
when he passed Kareem and you're you're counting all the
stats and he's gonna lead in everything, so you count that,
but you're not counting here's one for twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And here's my question, my answer to that. And there's
a certain point.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Even Kobe Bryant, for example, you become a made man
to me, whereas you can only add to the to
the war, you can take away, I can't take away.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Kobe ran out.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If Tom Brady uh, And here's the example, the nine
years he didn't win, if that was the end of it,
you would not look at him the same way because
he won the for the three earlier, would you?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But that's what I'm I'm saying, he couldn't have He's
still still what he only can add is my point.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So what you're missing, No, No, I'm saying. If it's
the same thing. Patrick Mahomes is in the same boat,
great start. If he doesn't win again, doesn't and he
plays eight or nine years, you won't have the same
feel for him if he goes that many years at
the end, where you go, man, Patrick Mahomes really fell off.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
He hasn't won in nine or ten years. I think
that can hurt you.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But the difference is Patrick Gholmes is obviously right now
still so young. I'm saying at a certain point, Michael Jordan, Kobe,
Tom Brady, there' certain people I'm gonna cut you off
and like, all right, I don't need to see anymore.
I know where you are a legacy. You can only
add to that because I'm not gonna judge Wizard. I'm
not gonna charge the last four years of Kobe per se,
I'm not gonna you know what I mean, Like, there's
a certain point where I literally know what you're doing
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at that af people.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Look at those some of those Kobe years that didn't
make the playoffs all the time, when he had those teams,
when he.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Got they gave.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Up a three to one lead.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You remember that to the Son to the Sons, Remember
they had them beat. But anyway, eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, I'm just gonna say no.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So you don't think Ron's you don't view him as clutch.
And there's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
When I think of his career seriously, like you just
talked about earlier his career and just a visual not
looking at stats. Who do I want to have the
ball at the end of the game. It's not Lebron
James for me.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
There are a handful of guys historically over him, but
there's not many modern day I would take.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, So that's the question. You get what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So the sure So we talked about the other day
with Steph. I took the NBA guys and I said,
if you don't need a basket, and everybody does not
pick Steph like they'll say no, no, not Steph. At
the end at the end of a game, do you
want Lebron to have the ball to take the last shot?
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Do you think he's clutched or not. That's what we're
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A long wait.
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Oh, I'm ready? Yeah, all right. We got the NBA
news too, man. We obviously Wemby is the biggest news
out for the rest of the season with the blood clots.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Wishing him the best man.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I really like just his disposition, how much he cares,
plays defense, all that good stuff. So hope fully he'll
be back and better than ever can bounce back next year.
Other NBA news Rob Bobby Porters, who is the heart
and soul outside of Giannis for those Bucks teams, energy
man off the bench giving them thirteen to eight.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, he has been.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Suspended Rob for twenty five games and they have twenty
nine games left left in the season. He's suspended for
violating terms of the NBA NBPA Anti Drug Program by
testing positive for trumadol. The league announced that today. This
is what he had to say Rob about it. He said,
I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an
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NBA approved medication for pain and inflammation. During that time,
I made an honest mistake and took a pain reducing,
anti anti inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel
horrible and recognized that I'm responsible for what I put
in my body.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
From the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I want to apologize to the Bucks organization, my teammates, coaches, fans, family,
you know. Blah blah blah. He said, I'll continue to
work hard get ready for the playoff run. So that's
his coming for him. And then the Bucks said, obviously
is a setback for them because you know, he means
so much of their team, but they won support Bobby
and he's just making as if it was an honest mistake.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
No, I mean, you would think and you would understand,
this is your livelihood, you know what I mean, Like
you have to make sure everything that goes in your body.
I mean, I mean, this is not me or you
and whatnot. There's gotta be you have to make sure
you're not exactly. They're testing people. So you can't allow
that to happen because if that was that mean, people
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make honest mistakes all the time, more than just a
player every so often. Right, it would be ten players
or twenty players exactly, right, if it was just like, oh,
I just took something that I didn't know. So that's
always a little question mark there, you know when you see.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Something like that happen.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And I guess my other thing too, when I think
all the time, is it is there? Because you know
you hear that in baseball too. Oh I was taking
something and they told me is from Maya my throwing arm. Right,
I'm back been hurting. Remember, many were mirrors with the Dodgers,
like a fertility drug. Again he claimed that you know
he was trying he was taking.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
A fertility getn't that be the woman?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, he was trying to an up on the soldiers, Okay,
trying to get more soldiers, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But I just wonder and and and where are you
on this? I mean there have been players who have
been suspended for p d s in the n b A.
Who was it with Shard Lewis? Is that who it
was who's the guy with the Orlando Magic might have
been with Lewis? Can you look that up? Patrick Guy's
NBA players? Who was suspended? I just right off the
top of my head, and I don't want to I
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want to make sure we get that right. But where
are you on that?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was? It was.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Anybody else? I got that one quick. I knew there
was somebody from the Magic. I'm wrong when I said Lewis.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
He was suspended though, Rishard Lewis without paid for the
first ten games of the nine season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Though, okay, hang around he do see. So that was
in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I just wonder where when you whenever you hear something
like this, do you think that there's more to it?
Or the league? I mean, obviously the league would rather
not in the NFL? Dude, do you think people aren't
taking stuff? And for whatever reason, people don't frown upon
NFL guys when they get busted, they miss four games,
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they come back and everybody goes Coomba, y'all, let's get going.
You can still win awards. No career is not tainted.
Nobody looks at you sideways. It's weird, so great. That's
a great question. I think Bobby.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't think that he knew per se like I'm
taking this thing, But I absolutely think he knew. Hey, man,
it's more powerful than what you got. I don't know
if it's you know, good or not.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I just know it works, it's powerful. It might be sketchy,
you can take it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Meaning.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know if he literally knew what he was taking,
but I think he knew it wasn't on the normal
NBA plan, if you know what I mean. I do
believe that, and I do believe guys push it, in
the words of that one song from Back and the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Day, push it to the limits.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think they push it to the limit, like how
far can I go taking whatever is whatever that will
help me?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And you and I talk about this all the time
of the off the mic. Recover.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They're not just to walk around swollen up, and it's
about recovery, about people recovering. They're playing eighty two games,
that's just the games they're practicing all the time. You know,
they got nagging injuries. Some of them have chronic injuries,
meaning it's never gonna get better. Your knees is never
gonna get your back's never gonna get better, Steve Nash
with his back, Tracy McGrady with his back.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So people don't understand.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Like with baseball, it wasn't like, Okay, we're gonna do
this just to hit home runs, because if you can't
hit a home run, I don't care, you know how much,
Just not buff exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It has nothing to do with being bud.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
There's the eye hand coordination, and everybody doesn't have a
home run swing. You knowice pure a sluggers who have
the natural, beautiful swing that can knock the ball out
of the park.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Everybody can't do it. But I always want to recoveries
where you were going.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, the recovery is the same thing in base one
hundred and sixty two, one hundred and sixty two games.
And that's why pictures have been busted as much as
hitters because we talked.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
About the shoulder of the arm. Dude, it's picture man.
It is really really tough. Anybody. You and I have
done this for years, U since nineteen eighty seven, meter
for going on twenty years. Here in a few if
you spend any time with ex athletes, I don't name
the sport outside of maybe golf, but look at Tiger
Wood's beat down batter Man, that stuff takes a toll
(23:33):
on your body.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't care what it is.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Man, this isn't recreational playing every other week.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, they're handy millions. I gotta perform, right, I gotta
show up. My family needs this money. And we talked
about this yesterday, Rob everybody ain't making a guarantee fifty
million years.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You got like, we got the Dodgers network up here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But Jerry Harrison Junior was just, you know, just a
guy on team trying to make it. You think he
can be like, oh hey, guys, I'm probably not gonna
show up a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I don't feel good. I gotta crime jo this thing
or they gonna cutter. In fact, Jerry won the World
Series with the Yankees, and he.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Did for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So my point is, man, these guys got to play
through stuff you never look know about. I'll tell you
when I used to do the show with Marcella's Wiley.
One of the things he said to me, you talking
about us fans, He's like, you guys think about acl
tears and you know, major injuries. He said, what about
when a guy steps with his metal cleats? In your
shin and rips meat out your shin. But you get
(24:25):
in there, You're like, hey, normal persons out leg wrapped
up for two weeks. Patrick, They're like, get back in there,
next play, dude, chunks of my shin is out on
the field.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And so it's just they go through so much that
if you can tell them, hey, man, here's a little
something to help with the pain, speed up the process,
right and this, And you know they're always ahead of
the testing, right, So they're on something that we don't
know about that eventually we know about because the testing
catches up. So do I think track stars, Shoot, I
(24:58):
read the Baco book, absolutely, track swimming, cycling, you know,
all these man they're gonna push the limits so that
they can perform so we can love it, we can
enjoy it. And it just doesn't shock me if you
tell me somebody's been using pds considering what it takes
to be good, to be great at that level consistently
all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Now, I think that it's hard to believe, right, that
it isn't more rampant. People don't get you know, and
you've talked about it in the doping world, or drugs
or whatever. In sports, there's masking agents, there's things that
can can hide what exactly you're doing. I just wonder
(25:37):
if this will ever for whatever reason, it doesn't seem
even though they have the rules in place, we don't
see it in the NBA as much. Yeah, and the
NFL we see.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It, but it's not frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I think it's not gladiator sport, like subconscious that we
all know how brutal and violent it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Baseball's totally different.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Like if you get that Fernando to teach, Junior couldn't
have been a bigger star when he came to am
I right, he's like secondary now and he's still he's
playing great.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And he's fortunate is now this was this is your
five oh six, no, right, and and he has twenty years.
He's so young when it happened.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
He has a long way to go that he could
maybe like change people if he stays clean and has
a big you know, put up the numbers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
He had a great year last year.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You think that hell that Barry Bonds that we almost
have two halves of his career, meaning like the first
ten years we didn't assume he was on him and
he's a Hall of Fame player, but bat ten in
the next ten we assumed.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But the writers are different now and are changing. That's
why I think Tatis has a chance. I agree five
three or something. The older writers are the ones. And
Barry Bonds was close remembered seventy five percent. He got
sixty eight. So it wasn't like that was that first
half of his career. I think he's see what I'm saying, right,
It wasn't like people are like, no way, no how,
(26:56):
and he was getting twenty percent or five percent. He
fell off and everybody thought no because everybody knows when
he was the skinny Barry Bonds was a great player
with Pittsburgh. He won three m vps yep, and then
he went to San Francisco and still was great. But
I just wonder, I do I always wonder how widespread
it is and and do and do you think the league,
(27:19):
the league, if they can, would they want to hide it?
Do you think they hide it if there's a higher
profile player?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Do you do? You know what I mean? Like like
I do wonder and now.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Because because Major League Baseball they were they got their
biggest stars. I mean, like like for real like they
just threw the hammer down on some of the biggest
stars of the game. Don't want Hall of Famers. There's
about four or five Hall of famers who are not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Rod because of this, many were mirrors. We said, Barry,
you know, missing a couple off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
But yeah, Roger Clemens, I mean there's four right there,
without even and Mark McGuire, there's five.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
There's five. Would out even think about it?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Those are first ballot Hall of Famers with all the numbers,
all the credentials.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And not only the Hall of Fame part, they had
the relevance part too, you know what I mean, because
you could be quiet and be a Hall of Famer.
Barry Bonds was baseball from like two thousand to two
thousand and four or something.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
She talked about it all the time during the when
we're working for the New York Times. He went to
every The New York Times covered every game, and Chris
would go around every series during that strack.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It was that bit.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And let mean, dude, growing up we weren't necessarily the
biggest baseball fans. Guess what we did when Barry Bonds
was up yeah, what are we doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We're hitting the club?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Hold up, hold up, Barry, let me see why, right, okay,
they struck anyway, what we doing?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like he stopped.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't care what you were doing if you were
at a party, Barry Bonds at the bat shut up,
hold on, and then you have you know what happened
in the summer of ninety eight with Sammy Sosa and
Mark Mark Maguire, which, by the way, what complexion is
Sammy Sosa right now?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think he's beige? No, what is he for? Nancy?
He looked like he's supposed to look like me. He
looking like you?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yes, okay, Mancy, And in fact he had Moncy, you
might be too dark. You dark complexed compared to it.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I was gonna say it might be a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Tan than him.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, it's full on Michael Jackson right now, like
you want to off the.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Wall, Michael Jackson, and he went bad, like wait, what
do you want? He might look a bit like your sweat? Yeah, yeah,
like that, I mean, like it's like racist, what's.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It's the fact?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Go looking back, You'll look it up and you'll be like, what, No, Alex,
have you seen Alex Cogle Right now, Patrick, you.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Know what I'm talking about? Like, no, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Like, Patrick, he looked like your arm right now, Yeah,
I was, he was saying. He was like showing you guys,
it was Rob's complexion. Yes, really in the summer of
ninety eight hitting home runs. Yes he now right now,
shut up.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
All of you to wait and hear the truth. Yes,
all right? Eight seven so look up y'all ninety nine
on Fox. Can't do it? Eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Just your thoughts on how widespread Yeah, Bobby Porters, you know,
said that he took something that he won.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Supposed we got suspended twenty five games. That's a lot
of games. That's a lot of games, well over a
quarter of the season. So just wonder do you think
PD juice whatever you want to use is more widespread
in sports than we really know? Are you cool with it?
If they are using you know what I mean? Does
(30:26):
that bother you if you find out? Because it doesn't
bother football players? And you're right, the gladiated the kind
of thing might be the reason why we want to
hear a good conference. It's just a conversation about this
and Bobby Porters is the one who sparked it with
his suspension.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Where are you? Does this bother? You? Can you live
with it? In sports?
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Nate and I don't know, Patrick, do we have sound
of this? Coach Dennis Gates? Do we have the sound?
Can we get that sound?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
One second? Let's look that up. Yeah, I got you.
He's in. I said it set up. Yeah, so we'll
get the sound. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So to to basically break it on down for you,
you have the Missouri basketball team which is ranked fifteen,
so that's a good rank, you know, fifteenth in the nation.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You'll take that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And they were going up against the Alabama of course
tie Crimson Tide, who were fourth rank.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
So great game. They end up winning one ten. They're
at home Missouri is they win one.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Ten to ninety eight, and the coach Dennis Gates, right
before the game ends, he gets on the mic and
he says, uh, don't please, don't storm the court.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
And he tells that all the fans.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Are confused, you know, hey, which mean we excited we
just beat the number four team. But the but the
rush this thing, and he said, well you can kind
of hear the fans groaning and moaning him kind of
booing hey, and then of course they win, buzzer goes off,
they don't storm the court. So the conversation kind of
went around online is was that cool? Did he kind
of ruin the moment? Or is that the right thing
to do because it's become starting really costly for some
of these universities because you get fined. You got people
(33:07):
tearing down stuff, they breaking stuff, and some universities are
over it. So it's a debate online of how head
coach Gates handled the situation.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It makes no are we serious, like like we've lost it.
How in the world could you do that when your
school just beat the number one seed team in college basketball?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right? Number four? But yeah, I thought there were one
number four? What they did? All right?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So the fourth yeah, all right? And what they they
might be number one in their conference, but they are
number four. Obama's number four, but they're still But but there.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Was the potential against the potential number one seed Alabama. Okay, gotcha.
And my point to this is talking about in the
tournament people feeling like.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
That's one seed.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, that's a huge win. It's a it's a huge win.
Why in the world would a coach. Stop you're in college.
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. It doesn't happen
very often.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You don't want kids to be kids, as long as
you're not hurting anybody or whatever. It's a part of college.
I'm sorry. You want to rope it all off. You
want to put up plexiglass, you want armed guards down
on the floor. Is that where we're going? Seriously, cal
when I thought that was the worst thing. He thinks
he's doing the right thing, even as what he's done
(34:47):
to his team and what that might feel like to
have the whole student body.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Rush down on the court. Lift you up. You just
laid the dragon on your home court.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Right, Why in the world would you be preemptive on that.
It ain't like this happened before and some kids would
trampled and kill.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
College basketball man. Am I right?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You talk about overthinking something, Bruh, Let this one go.
Let the kids be kids. And it's not only the players,
it's also the fans. College is when you're eighteen to
twenty one, twenty two years old. You do stupid stuff,
You have fun, You have memorable moments. Remember that time
our team won and we stormed the court and I
got to hug the players and high five the players.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
These are literally part of the reasons why you go
to college.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know, I'm from Antiram, Michigan. You know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You know, when Michigan does something great, that's like a
big thing. The town, it's all about it. These are
college towns. Sometimes it's the only thing we have. Missouri
doesn't have, you know, much when it comes to professional
like you know NBA as far as far.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
As the NBA, Now you know I went to Missoo too. Yeah,
shout out to Missoo, yes.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
But so yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
To rob them of this moment, I totally agree with that.
And also, now you've made it in trying to protect something,
you've now made it weird for your own players.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We just had a big win, but you know what
just happened.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Robbed our own crowd is booing us, and they're not
necessarily booing you, the players, but they're boying because of
the moment. We're ready to star in the court. Maybe
here we go ten seconds on the kubboot. Hey please
don't throw in the court. Everybody say please say Now
they're kind of grumble if you listen to it's like
they boo they should have booted the coach off the cars.
It's your ruining the moment. Now the players, we are excited,
(36:36):
do we high five?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You wage? What a kill joy? And I only just
said it overthinking it. In the college basketball game, my god,
if they can't come down on the field, then put
plexiglass up, put boards like in hockey where they can't
get in, put a bob wire.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Really, and it's asketball, especially court, okay, and when it's
the college football they do tear down the uprights and
they tear down some so okay, and maybe the fields
get stumping. I don't agree with it, but okay, maybe
you could convince me of that dude. As much as
big as his money as college football is making, y'all
can be all right with the upright, y'all gotta replace
(37:17):
I'm saying. But the basketball court, they literally just on
the court, nothing happens. You high five the players and
you just take a little selfie.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
We won't and you know that.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
In this era with the Instagram and your everybody wants
that moment.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Do you remember we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
We made the number four C we were balling Yo,
that's my team, my favorite era.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Man, I remember when I was in Sophomore Cup exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
That's a moment that he robbed from these college kids.
Come on, man, we gotta stop this.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I couldn't believe when I saw the video. I'm like,
he's so wrapped up. Okay, he came shaking it too.
Should you be shouldn't be worried about the game to
be rather to go over to the Yeah, ANNOUNCERR. It
wasn't the ad the coach really like. I get it
that he won. They were already up by one, ten.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Or twelve or whatever it was yet, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, But to go out of your way to go
do that and be a killed Jode, I know that
was trying to do worse things.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
This is this is what he was trying to do.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He was trying to send the message, I think more
than the storming of the court. This is what we do.
It ain't no surprise that we beat good you know,
we are fifteenth rank. It ain't like we some you
know ten and twenty team were fifteenth rank. Baby don't
need a storm his court, you know what I'm saying.
But this is what he was trying to do. This
is what we do. We beat teams. I expected to
beat them, don't storm the court. That's what he was
trying to do. But sometimes when you're trying to overthinking
(38:43):
to have the message too, there's also a part of sports.
It's just fun. It's just memorable. You know how many
dudes on this team going to the NBA? I don't know.
I haven't looked at up. I guarantee's probably one, you
know what I mean, Like, it's just the way it is.
Probably got a guy on his team that will maybe
go to the NBA, maybe have a couple coffee in
the NBA. Maybe that's a big maybe. So this college moment,
(39:04):
the storm and the courts, the high five, and the
electric moments, that is gonna be the highlight of some
of these guys life and career. I won a state
championship in high school twenty some odd years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Do you know how much I still think about that?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Rob when we storm the court in the President Center
place You've been a million times where Michigan State plays basketball.
I'm grown with three kids, gotta have nice profession, doing
all right in life, and I still think about that
run Now. I couldn't imagine college basketball and let alone
pros and like what that would even feel like. So
don't take this little moment from them. Man, it's just
(39:38):
a little moment. It's a basketball court. What's it gonna happen.
Somebody's gonna be on with some Chuck Taylor's and scuff
the court or something with some Doc Martin's on Patrick.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's all it's gonna happen some tims some times on.
That was a statement win.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That's a big win, that might be your biggest one
of the college basketball season.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And you took.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Away a moment and don't storm the court, head coach, Yes,
you know what. I'd have been on there sea walking
on the court like Serena after halftime show.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I was disappointed that the fans listened.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I was shocked in I mean when I kept watching
the video, Oh, there's gonna be a section that said
screw that.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I cannot believe that they did not, because what could
they do to you. I'm sure you're gonna be arrested
because because your college basketball team won and you ran
on the court after game.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Can your money had to set it off to wasting court.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Time and and and and a police and and uh
donald and what are we here for?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Jamie ran on the court? What did what did he do?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
So on?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
The team had a huge win and Joey beat number
four Alabama and he ran on the court.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What did he do? Well?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
He had his phone in his hand. He was he
was taking a self he was celebrating. Well, what else
did he do?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That was?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
That?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The game was talling, the game was still going on.
He interrupted the game. No, no, the game was over.
He a college student. He pays tuition here. Yeah, and
y'all worried about that. He doesn't do this every week.
It's like a one off, get out of my court case. Dismissed. Right,
Welcome to your Washington Judge, Washington. It to me is
one of I thought you said the best thing. Overthinking it.
(41:20):
We have put ourselves where we're overthinking. We're not letting
sports be natural.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
My god, the idea that you could go to a game,
have some excitement, you don't run on the court.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Every night to come on. Might do that once, right,
but I'm saying like you might.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
You have four years. There might be the only time
ever happened. There's your moment. I went to a college
basketool was that?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yes, you know daddy's stole in the court was no
way dad, And he's showing the picture and yes, me
and him. I got a selfie with a video with him. Yeah,
come on, man, it's just relatte. Relax, gotta relax. Let
the kids be kids.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Like one of the one of the greatest moments, right
and when uh the band ran out Yeah, cow right,
when this band ran out there, like, that's one of
the greatest side the band's out there everything.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
He dumped it right in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Like, but that's one of the greatest all time great
And sometimes when you see fans poured onto the court,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh when the Celtics won. Don't caught me to year.
Maybe it was eighty six or just like that. You
see them storm the court and Larry Bird and it's
just a cool, historic, nostalgic look you know what I mean.
And want to be a part of it. That's what
sports is all about. Nobody's there to hurt the player.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
It's like a great It's just a moment, right, That's
exactly it.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
This is not that. And if we're taking this.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Away from fans, you might as well, like I say,
put up some sort of barrier or bob wire or
something so that people could I mean, is that what
you really want? Because that's what it felt like eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Did the Missouri head coach Dennis Gates do the right
thing by barring or scolding college basketball fans at Massoo
not to storm the court or was he an old
fuddy duddy and took away one of the great moments
you could have in college storming the court after a
(43:26):
big win.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
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You have a chance, Yes, because I thought it came
on ear later and it came on early, So that's okay.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It's all good. But Kelvin remember always to the.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Odd couple was filmed in front of a live.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Sweetie.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, all right, what a show we have for you
today on this TV theme song Thursday, looking forward to it.
Antonio Daniels is back, of course, NBA analyst Pelican analysts
on television.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Oh yeah, it'd be great to talk to him. Got
some NBA news.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
To talk about, yep, Little Sheckle City, Gary Sheffield, junior
host of the Yankees Unloaded podcast. He'll join us in
our number two. That'll be good. A right, right, A
new world contract for Aaron Boom. We'll talk about that,
and of course the reason everybody shows up on Thursday,
Ty Shoot's Tower of Trivia, the Spring Training edition can't
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wait in our number three plus last call.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So we do have a busy, busy show. Uh.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
But first, let's welcome in the odd Couple crew, because
you wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program
without him.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
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say now, racist? Why that's not gonna some sand in
his shorts? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Laying around the bus death all I have to think that?
Think you safe with that one? That's it.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Monty Bolanos is at the anchor desk. She'll keep us
updated throughout the program. And yes, Elijah, he's.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Not so fast with that trigger now he's almost on.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Mini me get it out.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
It almost sounded like it was Manzi. You didn't even
you never heard of Elijah. There you go.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Elijah our social media guru who's one of the best
in the business. So a lot of stuff to get
to again until Odio Daniels in the next twenty five minutes.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
So yeah, we got to talk to him about that.
You know, some big NBA news today.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Obviously we'll do that, but let's start here. Uh, Lebron James,
Lebron James.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
So, Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
You know when I told you I was picking the Hornets,
You remember, you gave me the stink eye last night.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I did that. I did, and everybody had them going
to the finals. I'm a hater. Oh my god, what
blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Forget what I was saying, like, Hey, who's gonna play defense?
Who's going to be the rent protector? And guess what,
even the Hornets figured that out. Dude, there's no rint protector, right. Uh.
They went at Luca, they went at him. That every
team's gonna do that, right, Yeah, that that you know
what I'm saying. We all know that from last year.
But they got really exposed in the playoffs. They was like,
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we you.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Might drop sixty on us, we were gonna get Yeah,
we going at you.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Uh so you know, the the crux of it is
that they lost and Lebron had a chance to tie
the game twice in the final law I don't know,
final minute or whatever, right, final thirty seconds or whatever,
and he missed them both, and then all of a
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sudden from the two misses came the stat of the year. Kelvin,
When you saw the stat, what did you think? Off
before I even say what the status? What did you think?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Are you saying if you would have asked me prior
to be ever knowing this that I definitely would have
thought it was better than that. By the way, the
stat were talking about his Lebron's run with the Lakers
and last game winning game time shots.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
So he has he's had thirty shots at it right,
which is a game time or go ahead field goal
five seconds left in either the fourth quarter or overtime overtime,
So it's a it's a finite, but it's enough simple size.
Would you say that's fine? Yeah, that's a big novel.
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Some people are like, oh, well, are so specific? Okay,
five seconds I mean and thirty tries at it. That's
a lot of tries since he's been with the Lakers.
That's a very it is very specific.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But because the number, though thirty, is still a lot,
it's not three, not five seconds and five shots?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
All right? You know that wouldn't really move me anyway.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Whoever, anybody who under rock didn't know what the number is.
He's one for twenty nine. That's crazy, not clutch. That
is crazy as far as the Lakers are concerned. And
that is a staggering number, especially since for the most part,
Lebron can take the ball to the basket almost all
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the time and get a foul or what. He doesn't
always have to shoot from the perimeter. I don't care
what defense they got on you. He can just drive
past still go past people for a basket late in
the game. And so obviously the thought was is Lebron
clutch or not? And what do you think now? Your
thought before this was he's clutch yet? Well, because I
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would have been questioned it a little bit.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, Well the question for me would or the context
would have to be are we saying in a purple
and gold jersey or the duration of his.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Talking about for me, Lebron, they got a championship.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Yeah, and his plays had a number of chances here
in LA and it's been an uneven would you admit
it's an uneven Lakers run because they didn't make the
playoffs a couple of times they've got the play in
they've been knocked out early.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
It's been to the west. It's been a mixed bag
of nuts. But overall, I think even he would agree
it's been disappointing. Right, he got the ultimate thing, which
was a ring, so he's forever Davis. But that's where
you would want more if I told you I had
Anthony Davis in his prime.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
That's the other key component to this.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Lebron still in the twilight, but still prime ish the
first few years, right, you know what I mean, Because
obviously at this point he's forty. I don't expect him
to be what he used to be. But I got
prime eight, I got prime Lebron and some pieces here
and there. I would think that'd be enough that we
got to the finals again, even if we lost, but
we got to the finals again at least one more time,
so I would expect to that. But as far as
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the clutch factor, So here's the thing with Lebron, I
think overall he has been clutching his career, and the
numbers go that way as well, because when you look
up the numbers, really only it's Jordan, He and Kobe
when it comes to clutch shots in the duration of
their career, and even game winners, so he has Michael
Jordan has the most at nine when you're talking about
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actual buzzer beaters and game winners, which is not surprised.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
And when we talk about Michael Jordan at all, people
always talk about, Oh, you're just talking about because he's six,
and oh no, No, it's not because he's just six,
and oh no. That's why I say he led the
league in scoring for ten straight years. Look at all
the defensive awards he won.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's why he is the greatest basketball player of all time.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
If you ask who has the most in their tool belt,
that's Lebron, meaning just the best as far as you
can do all of these things, that's Lebron. But Mike's
the goat. I don't argue that. So here's the Mike.
Let's look at the stats. Michael Jordan has the most
game winning shots in NBA history at twenty eight. He
has nine actual game buzzer beaters. Kobe is second with eight.
When it comes to literally in the game is over,
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Lebron is second with seventeen game winning shots, and he's
tied for third with Paul Pierce for seven actual buzzer beaters,
many seven actual buzzer beats.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
See here's the.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Other thing too, And this is where Lebron gets hurt.
The longer he plays the worst those numbers, because if
you look at that, you say, Michael had nine buzzer beaters,
yeah in thirteen, yeah, thirteen to forty year. The only
other the only counter to that would be the other
two guys in that list. So four, if you took
the four guys, three of the four played a long time.
(09:41):
Paul Piers, Kobe, Bryant, Lebron Jordan is the anomaly and
all that right now. But I'm saying, but the longer
he goes, the longer he goes than anything could potentially
make it where the number sounds skewed right, like he
only went to the only one four when he played
twenty Let's say he goes another two more years, like
twenty four years, twenty four years, the only one four champions,
So that was that's crazy out of context.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I agree with that.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's what happens when you play a long time, is
that you start to look and go, is that really impressive?
I'll give you one real quick baseball pitcher Tommy John
pitched twenty five Major League seasons. Yep, of course to
Tommy John left ended pitcher.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Is he is he the underwear too? No? I know
I thought that too, because I might even have some
own right now that y'all cared about my underwear. But no,
who is that? Who's that name? Somebody and some licenses
or something somebody else named Tommy John.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Scared I was gonna have to get a surgery when
I put this underwear on. Patrick, I thought he was
gonna have to. Yeah, you put the underwear on, we
gotta cut your elbow.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Hey, But Tommy John played twenty five years, and then
if you average out how many wins, like eight or
something like, he averaged like eleven wins, he's like so,
so he's not in the Hall of Fame. And he
claims that he thinks he should be as a high
total of wins, but it's just not because he pitched
so long. And that's where people go, well, you should
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have two hundred and eighty wins you played twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, so here's my to put it. To put a
button on Lebron and clutch me. Lebron James is clutch.
There are people I would place above him. Michael Jordan
obviously be one Reggie Miller for me for saying, hey,
last second shot, Reggie Miller, Larry Bird is a handful
of guys. But absolutely I believe Lebron is clutch. The
issue with Lebron has been, and this is key in life,
people's first time, their first perception of you is often
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how they'll then think of.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
You, period.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
And so he came up short a few times early,
or he didn't even come up short in the sense
if he missed the shot, he just passed the ball
because it was the right basketball play.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
They triple team me. Guy was opening the corner. Why
would I not pass it to that guy? Yeah, that
was always true. I agree. So that hurt him in
the early phase.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But then he had a run that middle two thirds
of his career where he was in buzzer beaters, running
through people in the playoffs. He has five actual buzzer
beaters in playoff games. Another clutch statistic, I mean, And
so he became clutch. But we hold those first few
years against them, and I talked that in life.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Now we got a back end.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But even with Jordan, like Judge, you by like the
peak of your like on George Wizards, Jeordan.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
No, the longer.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You can't do it like that, And I'm gonna tell
you why, because then are you not counting his points
when he passed Kareem and you're you're counting all the
stats and he's gonna lead in everything, so you count that,
but you're not counting here's one for twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
And here's my question, my answer to that. And there's
a certain point.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Even Kobe Bryant, for example, you become a made man
to me, whereas you can only add to the to
the war, you can take away, I can't take away.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Kobe ran out.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If Tom Brady uh, And here's the example, the nine
years he didn't win, if that was the end of it,
you would not look at him the same way because
he won the for the three earlier, would you?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
But that's what I'm I'm saying, he couldn't have He's
still still what he only can add is my point.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So what you're missing, No, No, I'm saying. If it's
the same thing. Patrick Mahomes is in the same boat,
great start. If he doesn't win again, doesn't and he
plays eight or nine years, you won't have the same
feel for him if he goes that many years at
the end, where you go, man, Patrick Mahomes really fell off.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
He hasn't won in nine or ten years. I think
that can hurt you.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
But the difference is Patrick Gholmes is obviously right now
still so young. I'm saying at a certain point, Michael Jordan, Kobe,
Tom Brady, there' certain people I'm gonna cut you off
and like, all right, I don't need to see anymore.
I know where you are a legacy. You can only
add to that because I'm not gonna judge Wizard. I'm
not gonna charge the last four years of Kobe per se,
I'm not gonna you know what I mean, Like, there's
a certain point where I literally know what you're doing
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at that af people.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Look at those some of those Kobe years that didn't
make the playoffs all the time, when he had those teams,
when he.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Got they gave.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Up a three to one lead.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
You remember that to the Son to the Sons, Remember
they had them beat. But anyway, eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, I'm just gonna say no.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
So you don't think Ron's you don't view him as clutch.
And there's the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
When I think of his career seriously, like you just
talked about earlier his career and just a visual not
looking at stats. Who do I want to have the
ball at the end of the game. It's not Lebron
James for me.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
There are a handful of guys historically over him, but
there's not many modern day I would take.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Okay, So that's the question. You get what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
So the sure So we talked about the other day
with Steph. I took the NBA guys and I said,
if you don't need a basket, and everybody does not
pick Steph like they'll say no, no, not Steph. At
the end at the end of a game, do you
want Lebron to have the ball to take the last shot?
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Do you think he's clutched or not. That's what we're
talking about here on The Odd Couple on a TV
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Aaron Boone. Two more years for the Yankees. They made
it to the World Series. They didn't win, but they
finally got there.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
A long wait.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Two thousand and nine ers the last time the Yankees
won a World Series or been to a World Series.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
So he'd been I knew that. The winning dang have
been that long. That's that's on Yankee of the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
It's been a long drought for the Yankees right now.
But at least they is why you give the man
a deal, give the men the money.
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He got there, so yes, and shot talk as well
coming up later on in this out.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Yeah, Patrick, you ready for that? Son?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh, I'm ready? Yeah, all right. We got the NBA
news too, man. We obviously Wemby is the biggest news
out for the rest of the season with the blood clots.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
Wishing him the best man.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I really like just his disposition, how much he cares,
plays defense, all that good stuff. So hope fully he'll
be back and better than ever can bounce back next year.
Other NBA news Rob Bobby Porters, who is the heart
and soul outside of Giannis for those Bucks teams, energy
man off the bench giving them thirteen to eight.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Well, he has been.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Suspended Rob for twenty five games and they have twenty
nine games left left in the season. He's suspended for
violating terms of the NBA NBPA Anti Drug Program by
testing positive for trumadol. The league announced that today. This
is what he had to say Rob about it. He said,
I was dealing with an elbow injury and using an
(18:35):
NBA approved medication for pain and inflammation. During that time,
I made an honest mistake and took a pain reducing,
anti anti inflammatory pill that is not approved. I feel
horrible and recognized that I'm responsible for what I put
in my body.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
From the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I want to apologize to the Bucks organization, my teammates, coaches, fans, family,
you know. Blah blah blah. He said, I'll continue to
work hard get ready for the playoff run. So that's
his coming for him. And then the Bucks said, obviously
is a setback for them because you know, he means
so much of their team, but they won support Bobby
and he's just making as if it was an honest mistake.
Speaker 4 (19:09):
No, I mean, you would think and you would understand,
this is your livelihood, you know what I mean, Like
you have to make sure everything that goes in your body.
I mean, I mean, this is not me or you
and whatnot. There's gotta be you have to make sure
you're not exactly. They're testing people. So you can't allow
that to happen because if that was that mean, people
(19:31):
make honest mistakes all the time, more than just a
player every so often. Right, it would be ten players
or twenty players exactly, right, if it was just like, oh,
I just took something that I didn't know. So that's
always a little question mark there, you know when you see.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Something like that happen.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And I guess my other thing too, when I think
all the time, is it is there? Because you know
you hear that in baseball too. Oh I was taking
something and they told me is from Maya my throwing arm. Right,
I'm back been hurting. Remember, many were mirrors with the Dodgers,
like a fertility drug. Again he claimed that you know
he was trying he was taking.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
A fertility getn't that be the woman?
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Well, he was trying to an up on the soldiers, Okay,
trying to get more soldiers, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
But I just wonder and and and where are you
on this? I mean there have been players who have
been suspended for p d s in the n b A.
Who was it with Shard Lewis? Is that who it
was who's the guy with the Orlando Magic might have
been with Lewis? Can you look that up? Patrick Guy's
NBA players? Who was suspended? I just right off the
top of my head, and I don't want to I
(20:39):
want to make sure we get that right. But where
are you on that?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was? It was.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Anybody else? I got that one quick. I knew there
was somebody from the Magic. I'm wrong when I said Lewis.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
He was suspended though, Rishard Lewis without paid for the
first ten games of the nine season.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Though, okay, hang around he do see. So that was
in Orlando.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I just wonder where when you whenever you hear something
like this, do you think that there's more to it?
Or the league? I mean, obviously the league would rather
not in the NFL? Dude, do you think people aren't
taking stuff? And for whatever reason, people don't frown upon
NFL guys when they get busted, they miss four games,
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they come back and everybody goes Coomba, y'all, let's get going.
You can still win awards. No career is not tainted.
Nobody looks at you sideways. It's weird, so great. That's
a great question. I think Bobby.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
I don't think that he knew per se like I'm
taking this thing, But I absolutely think he knew. Hey, man,
it's more powerful than what you got. I don't know
if it's you know, good or not.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
I just know it works, it's powerful. It might be sketchy,
you can take it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Meaning.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I don't know if he literally knew what he was taking,
but I think he knew it wasn't on the normal
NBA plan, if you know what I mean. I do
believe that, and I do believe guys push it, in
the words of that one song from Back and the.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Day, push it to the limits.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
I think they push it to the limit, like how
far can I go taking whatever is whatever that will
help me?
Speaker 3 (22:13):
And you and I talk about this all the time
of the off the mic. Recover.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
They're not just to walk around swollen up, and it's
about recovery, about people recovering. They're playing eighty two games,
that's just the games they're practicing all the time. You know,
they got nagging injuries. Some of them have chronic injuries,
meaning it's never gonna get better. Your knees is never
gonna get your back's never gonna get better, Steve Nash
with his back, Tracy McGrady with his back.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So people don't understand.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Like with baseball, it wasn't like, Okay, we're gonna do
this just to hit home runs, because if you can't
hit a home run, I don't care, you know how much,
Just not buff exactly.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
It has nothing to do with being bud.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
There's the eye hand coordination, and everybody doesn't have a
home run swing. You knowice pure a sluggers who have
the natural, beautiful swing that can knock the ball out
of the park.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Everybody can't do it. But I always want to recoveries
where you were going.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Yeah, the recovery is the same thing in base one
hundred and sixty two, one hundred and sixty two games.
And that's why pictures have been busted as much as
hitters because we talked.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
About the shoulder of the arm. Dude, it's picture man.
It is really really tough. Anybody. You and I have
done this for years, U since nineteen eighty seven, meter
for going on twenty years. Here in a few if
you spend any time with ex athletes, I don't name
the sport outside of maybe golf, but look at Tiger
Wood's beat down batter Man, that stuff takes a toll
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on your body.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
I don't care what it is.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Man, this isn't recreational playing every other week.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
No, they're handy millions. I gotta perform, right, I gotta
show up. My family needs this money. And we talked
about this yesterday, Rob everybody ain't making a guarantee fifty
million years.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
You got like, we got the Dodgers network up here.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But Jerry Harrison Junior was just, you know, just a
guy on team trying to make it. You think he
can be like, oh hey, guys, I'm probably not gonna
show up a few weeks.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I don't feel good. I gotta crime jo this thing
or they gonna cutter. In fact, Jerry won the World
Series with the Yankees, and he.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Did for sure.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
So my point is, man, these guys got to play
through stuff you never look know about. I'll tell you
when I used to do the show with Marcella's Wiley.
One of the things he said to me, you talking
about us fans, He's like, you guys think about acl
tears and you know, major injuries. He said, what about
when a guy steps with his metal cleats? In your
shin and rips meat out your shin. But you get
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in there, You're like, hey, normal persons out leg wrapped
up for two weeks. Patrick, They're like, get back in there,
next play, dude, chunks of my shin is out on
the field.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
You'll be all right.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And so it's just they go through so much that
if you can tell them, hey, man, here's a little
something to help with the pain, speed up the process,
right and this, And you know they're always ahead of
the testing, right, So they're on something that we don't
know about that eventually we know about because the testing
catches up. So do I think track stars, Shoot, I
(24:58):
read the Baco book, absolutely, track swimming, cycling, you know,
all these man they're gonna push the limits so that
they can perform so we can love it, we can
enjoy it. And it just doesn't shock me if you
tell me somebody's been using pds considering what it takes
to be good, to be great at that level consistently
all the time.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Now, I think that it's hard to believe, right, that
it isn't more rampant. People don't get you know, and
you've talked about it in the doping world, or drugs
or whatever. In sports, there's masking agents, there's things that
can can hide what exactly you're doing. I just wonder
(25:37):
if this will ever for whatever reason, it doesn't seem
even though they have the rules in place, we don't
see it in the NBA as much. Yeah, and the
NFL we see.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
It, but it's not frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I think it's not gladiator sport, like subconscious that we
all know how brutal and violent it is.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Baseball's totally different.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Like if you get that Fernando to teach, Junior couldn't
have been a bigger star when he came to am
I right, he's like secondary now and he's still he's
playing great.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
And he's fortunate is now this was this is your
five oh six, no, right, and and he has twenty years.
He's so young when it happened.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
He has a long way to go that he could
maybe like change people if he stays clean and has
a big you know, put up the numbers.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
He had a great year last year.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You think that hell that Barry Bonds that we almost
have two halves of his career, meaning like the first
ten years we didn't assume he was on him and
he's a Hall of Fame player, but bat ten in
the next ten we assumed.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
But the writers are different now and are changing. That's
why I think Tatis has a chance. I agree five
three or something. The older writers are the ones. And
Barry Bonds was close remembered seventy five percent. He got
sixty eight. So it wasn't like that was that first
half of his career. I think he's see what I'm saying, right,
It wasn't like people are like, no way, no how,
(26:56):
and he was getting twenty percent or five percent. He
fell off and everybody thought no because everybody knows when
he was the skinny Barry Bonds was a great player
with Pittsburgh. He won three m vps yep, and then
he went to San Francisco and still was great. But
I just wonder, I do I always wonder how widespread
it is and and do and do you think the league,
(27:19):
the league, if they can, would they want to hide it?
Do you think they hide it if there's a higher
profile player?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Do you do? You know what I mean? Like like
I do wonder and now.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Because because Major League Baseball they were they got their
biggest stars. I mean, like like for real like they
just threw the hammer down on some of the biggest
stars of the game. Don't want Hall of Famers. There's
about four or five Hall of famers who are not
in the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Rod because of this, many were mirrors. We said, Barry,
you know, missing a couple off the top of my head.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
But yeah, Roger Clemens, I mean there's four right there,
without even and Mark McGuire, there's five.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
There's five. Would out even think about it?
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Those are first ballot Hall of Famers with all the numbers,
all the credentials.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
And not only the Hall of Fame part, they had
the relevance part too, you know what I mean, because
you could be quiet and be a Hall of Famer.
Barry Bonds was baseball from like two thousand to two
thousand and four or something.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
She talked about it all the time during the when
we're working for the New York Times. He went to
every The New York Times covered every game, and Chris
would go around every series during that strack.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It was that bit.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
And let mean, dude, growing up we weren't necessarily the
biggest baseball fans. Guess what we did when Barry Bonds
was up yeah, what are we doing tonight?
Speaker 3 (28:36):
We're hitting the club?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Hold up, hold up, Barry, let me see why, right, okay,
they struck anyway, what we doing?
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Like he stopped.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
I don't care what you were doing if you were
at a party, Barry Bonds at the bat shut up,
hold on, and then you have you know what happened
in the summer of ninety eight with Sammy Sosa and
Mark Mark Maguire, which, by the way, what complexion is
Sammy Sosa right now?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I think he's beige? No, what is he for? Nancy?
He looked like he's supposed to look like me. He
looking like you?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yes, okay, Mancy, And in fact he had Moncy, you
might be too dark. You dark complexed compared to it.
Speaker 5 (29:09):
I was gonna say it might be a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
Tan than him.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
I mean, it's full on Michael Jackson right now, like
you want to off the.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
Wall, Michael Jackson, and he went bad, like wait, what
do you want? He might look a bit like your sweat? Yeah, yeah,
like that, I mean, like it's like racist, what's.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
It's the fact?
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Go looking back, You'll look it up and you'll be like, what, No, Alex,
have you seen Alex Cogle Right now, Patrick, you.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
Know what I'm talking about? Like, no, but I'm just saying.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Like, Patrick, he looked like your arm right now, Yeah,
I was, he was saying. He was like showing you guys,
it was Rob's complexion. Yes, really in the summer of
ninety eight hitting home runs. Yes he now right now,
shut up.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
All of you to wait and hear the truth. Yes,
all right? Eight seven so look up y'all ninety nine
on Fox. Can't do it? Eight seven, seven, nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Just your thoughts on how widespread Yeah, Bobby Porters, you know,
said that he took something that he won.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Supposed we got suspended twenty five games. That's a lot
of games. That's a lot of games, well over a
quarter of the season. So just wonder do you think
PD juice whatever you want to use is more widespread
in sports than we really know? Are you cool with it?
If they are using you know what I mean? Does
(30:26):
that bother you if you find out? Because it doesn't
bother football players? And you're right, the gladiated the kind
of thing might be the reason why we want to
hear a good conference. It's just a conversation about this
and Bobby Porters is the one who sparked it with
his suspension.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Where are you? Does this bother? You? Can you live
with it? In sports?
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Nate and I don't know, Patrick, do we have sound
of this? Coach Dennis Gates? Do we have the sound?
Can we get that sound?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
One second? Let's look that up. Yeah, I got you.
He's in. I said it set up. Yeah, so we'll
get the sound. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
So to to basically break it on down for you,
you have the Missouri basketball team which is ranked fifteen,
so that's a good rank, you know, fifteenth in the nation.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
You'll take that.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
And they were going up against the Alabama of course
tie Crimson Tide, who were fourth rank.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
So great game. They end up winning one ten. They're
at home Missouri is they win one.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Ten to ninety eight, and the coach Dennis Gates, right
before the game ends, he gets on the mic and
he says, uh, don't please, don't storm the court.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
And he tells that all the fans.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Are confused, you know, hey, which mean we excited we
just beat the number four team. But the but the
rush this thing, and he said, well you can kind
of hear the fans groaning and moaning him kind of
booing hey, and then of course they win, buzzer goes off,
they don't storm the court. So the conversation kind of
went around online is was that cool? Did he kind
of ruin the moment? Or is that the right thing
to do because it's become starting really costly for some
of these universities because you get fined. You got people
(33:07):
tearing down stuff, they breaking stuff, and some universities are
over it. So it's a debate online of how head
coach Gates handled the situation.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
It makes no are we serious, like like we've lost it.
How in the world could you do that when your
school just beat the number one seed team in college basketball?
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Right? Number four? But yeah, I thought there were one
number four? What they did? All right?
Speaker 1 (33:41):
So the fourth yeah, all right? And what they they
might be number one in their conference, but they are
number four. Obama's number four, but they're still But but there.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Was the potential against the potential number one seed Alabama. Okay, gotcha.
And my point to this is talking about in the
tournament people feeling like.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
That's one seed.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Okay, that's a huge win. It's a it's a huge win.
Why in the world would a coach. Stop you're in college.
It's a once in a lifetime opportunity. It doesn't happen
very often.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You don't want kids to be kids, as long as
you're not hurting anybody or whatever. It's a part of college.
I'm sorry. You want to rope it all off. You
want to put up plexiglass, you want armed guards down
on the floor. Is that where we're going? Seriously, cal
when I thought that was the worst thing. He thinks
he's doing the right thing, even as what he's done
(34:47):
to his team and what that might feel like to
have the whole student body.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Rush down on the court. Lift you up. You just
laid the dragon on your home court.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Right, Why in the world would you be preemptive on that.
It ain't like this happened before and some kids would
trampled and kill.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
College basketball man. Am I right?
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You talk about overthinking something, Bruh, Let this one go.
Let the kids be kids. And it's not only the players,
it's also the fans. College is when you're eighteen to
twenty one, twenty two years old. You do stupid stuff,
You have fun, You have memorable moments. Remember that time
our team won and we stormed the court and I
got to hug the players and high five the players.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
That's cool.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
These are literally part of the reasons why you go
to college.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
You know, I'm from Antiram, Michigan. You know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
You know, when Michigan does something great, that's like a
big thing. The town, it's all about it. These are
college towns. Sometimes it's the only thing we have. Missouri
doesn't have, you know, much when it comes to professional
like you know NBA as far as far.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
As the NBA, Now you know I went to Missoo too. Yeah,
shout out to Missoo, yes.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
But so yeah.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
To rob them of this moment, I totally agree with that.
And also, now you've made it in trying to protect something,
you've now made it weird for your own players.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
We just had a big win, but you know what
just happened.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Robbed our own crowd is booing us, and they're not
necessarily booing you, the players, but they're boying because of
the moment. We're ready to star in the court. Maybe
here we go ten seconds on the kubboot. Hey please
don't throw in the court. Everybody say please say Now
they're kind of grumble if you listen to it's like
they boo they should have booted the coach off the cars.
It's your ruining the moment. Now the players, we are excited,
(36:36):
do we high five?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
You wage? What a kill joy? And I only just
said it overthinking it. In the college basketball game, my god,
if they can't come down on the field, then put
plexiglass up, put boards like in hockey where they can't
get in, put a bob wire.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Really, and it's asketball, especially court, okay, and when it's
the college football they do tear down the uprights and
they tear down some so okay, and maybe the fields
get stumping. I don't agree with it, but okay, maybe
you could convince me of that dude. As much as
big as his money as college football is making, y'all
can be all right with the upright, y'all gotta replace
(37:17):
I'm saying. But the basketball court, they literally just on
the court, nothing happens. You high five the players and
you just take a little selfie.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
We won't and you know that.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
In this era with the Instagram and your everybody wants
that moment.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Do you remember we wanted to.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
We made the number four C we were balling Yo,
that's my team, my favorite era.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Man, I remember when I was in Sophomore Cup exactly.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
That's a moment that he robbed from these college kids.
Come on, man, we gotta stop this.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (37:49):
I couldn't believe when I saw the video. I'm like,
he's so wrapped up. Okay, he came shaking it too.
Should you be shouldn't be worried about the game to
be rather to go over to the Yeah, ANNOUNCERR. It
wasn't the ad the coach really like. I get it
that he won. They were already up by one, ten.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Or twelve or whatever it was yet, but you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (38:11):
Yeah, But to go out of your way to go
do that and be a killed Jode, I know that
was trying to do worse things.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
This is this is what he was trying to do.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
He was trying to send the message, I think more
than the storming of the court. This is what we do.
It ain't no surprise that we beat good you know,
we are fifteenth rank. It ain't like we some you
know ten and twenty team were fifteenth rank. Baby don't
need a storm his court, you know what I'm saying.
But this is what he was trying to do. This
is what we do. We beat teams. I expected to
beat them, don't storm the court. That's what he was
trying to do. But sometimes when you're trying to overthinking
(38:43):
to have the message too, there's also a part of sports.
It's just fun. It's just memorable. You know how many
dudes on this team going to the NBA? I don't know.
I haven't looked at up. I guarantee's probably one, you
know what I mean, Like, it's just the way it is.
Probably got a guy on his team that will maybe
go to the NBA, maybe have a couple coffee in
the NBA. Maybe that's a big maybe. So this college moment,
(39:04):
the storm and the courts, the high five, and the
electric moments, that is gonna be the highlight of some
of these guys life and career. I won a state
championship in high school twenty some odd years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:16):
Do you know how much I still think about that?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Rob when we storm the court in the President Center
place You've been a million times where Michigan State plays basketball.
I'm grown with three kids, gotta have nice profession, doing
all right in life, and I still think about that
run Now. I couldn't imagine college basketball and let alone
pros and like what that would even feel like. So
don't take this little moment from them. Man, it's just
(39:38):
a little moment. It's a basketball court. What's it gonna happen.
Somebody's gonna be on with some Chuck Taylor's and scuff
the court or something with some Doc Martin's on Patrick.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
That's all it's gonna happen some tims some times on.
That was a statement win.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
That's a big win, that might be your biggest one
of the college basketball season.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
And you took.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Away a moment and don't storm the court, head coach, Yes,
you know what. I'd have been on there sea walking
on the court like Serena after halftime show.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I was disappointed that the fans listened.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
I was shocked in I mean when I kept watching
the video, Oh, there's gonna be a section that said
screw that.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
I cannot believe that they did not, because what could
they do to you. I'm sure you're gonna be arrested
because because your college basketball team won and you ran
on the court after game.
Speaker 3 (40:28):
Can your money had to set it off to wasting court.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
Time and and and and a police and and uh
donald and what are we here for?
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Jamie ran on the court? What did what did he do?
Speaker 2 (40:42):
So on?
Speaker 4 (40:42):
The team had a huge win and Joey beat number
four Alabama and he ran on the court.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
What did he do? Well?
Speaker 1 (40:48):
He had his phone in his hand. He was he
was taking a self he was celebrating. Well, what else
did he do?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
That was?
Speaker 5 (40:54):
That?
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Was it?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The game was talling, the game was still going on.
He interrupted the game. No, no, the game was over.
He a college student. He pays tuition here. Yeah, and
y'all worried about that. He doesn't do this every week.
It's like a one off, get out of my court case. Dismissed. Right,
Welcome to your Washington Judge, Washington. It to me is
one of I thought you said the best thing. Overthinking it.
(41:20):
We have put ourselves where we're overthinking. We're not letting
sports be natural.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
My god, the idea that you could go to a game,
have some excitement, you don't run on the court.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Every night to come on. Might do that once, right,
but I'm saying like you might.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
You have four years. There might be the only time
ever happened. There's your moment. I went to a college
basketool was that?
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yes, you know daddy's stole in the court was no
way dad, And he's showing the picture and yes, me
and him. I got a selfie with a video with him. Yeah,
come on, man, it's just relatte. Relax, gotta relax. Let
the kids be kids.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Like one of the one of the greatest moments, right
and when uh the band ran out Yeah, cow right,
when this band ran out there, like, that's one of
the greatest side the band's out there everything.
Speaker 3 (42:12):
He dumped it right in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
Like, but that's one of the greatest all time great
And sometimes when you see fans poured onto the court,
it's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh when the Celtics won. Don't caught me to year.
Maybe it was eighty six or just like that. You
see them storm the court and Larry Bird and it's
just a cool, historic, nostalgic look you know what I mean.
And want to be a part of it. That's what
sports is all about. Nobody's there to hurt the player.
Speaker 4 (42:40):
It's like a great It's just a moment, right, That's
exactly it.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
This is not that. And if we're taking this.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Away from fans, you might as well, like I say,
put up some sort of barrier or bob wire or
something so that people could I mean, is that what
you really want? Because that's what it felt like eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine, nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (43:04):
Did the Missouri head coach Dennis Gates do the right
thing by barring or scolding college basketball fans at Massoo
not to storm the court or was he an old
fuddy duddy and took away one of the great moments
you could have in college storming the court after a
(43:26):
big win.
Speaker 3 (43:26):
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Speaker 4 (43:29):
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