March 14, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why DeMarcus Lawrence was spot on in his criticisms of Micah Parsons and the Dallas Cowboys organization, debate whether or not Steph Curry’s lack of a ‘clutch gene’ disqualifies him from being the undisputed Greatest Shooter of All-Time and tell us why the Cincinnati Bengals are playing a dangerous game by paying wide receivers Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins top dollar rather than investing in their leaky defense.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Rob G, We'll bring you in. DeMarcus Lawrence and Michaeh.
Parsons are beefing and it's pretty pretty out in the public.
One thing to be for have some words or saying stuff.
But ever since Lawrence left to what Seattle?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What do you go? Yeah, Seattle.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
He went to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Seattle and Michael Parsons called him a clown or whatever.
Rob G, fill us in because it took another step
on this thing.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well you mentioned it there. DeMarcus Lawrence had been a
lifelong Cowboy. He grew up in the area, so m
playing for the Dallas Cowboys was a big deal and
he wanted to resign this offseason. According to multiple reports,
they didn't even offer him an extension. They'd rather eat
the dead cap than bring him back this season. That's
how they felt about him towards the end, they thought
that his injuries had gotten to a point where he
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was no longer valuable enough on the field to offset
the leadership that he does provide off the field. So
he spoke to a Seahawks blogger one of those video
podcasts that they do, about his decision to leave Dallas
and join Seattle.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And here's what DeMarcus Lawrence said.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Change the scenery is always good, you know, But Dallas
is my home, made my home there. You know, my
family lives there forever going to be there. But I
know for sure I'm not going to win a Super
Bowl there out.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So when that went viral last night, right as this
show was ending, Michael Parsons, as he's been known to do,
went on Twitter fire back saying, quote, this what rejection
and envy look like? This some class blank de Marcus Lawrence,
because he had time, and now, who lives on the
West coast, so it was early for him, came right
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back on Twitter with the tweet of his own saying, quote,
calling me a clown won't change the fact that I
told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting
more time winning, I would not have left.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And you know what, thank goodness for the Marcus Lawrence
really because he just hit it right on the head.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Kelvin. And we've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
People can do whatever they want in their spare time
and the offseason or whatever, but the Cowboys defense hasn't
been good enough, and we've seen what an embarrassing year
it was, especially early on when they were giving up
a forty piece of chicken every week, including that playoff
loss to Green Bay, and Michael Parsons should be At
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one point people were talking about him in the same
vein as a Lawrence Taylor, and I think that was
way premature.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I get it, he got all to a great start,
but he hadn't been close to Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The closest might be walking by him at the Super Bowl,
you know what I.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Mean, when we're in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that's about as close as he is the Lawrence
Taylor at this point.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And it was bad.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And he's done nothing more than to antagonize other players,
insult his own teammates, all kinds of stuff that to
me just doesn't doesn't feel good as far as having
a guy be a leader or somebody there. It just
seems like he's all worried about the future in life
after football, rather than just digging in and putting up,
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you know, and doing your best ten or twelve years
or whatever and going on at it and then from
there you if you make an impact as a player
and you have a personality, you have an opportunity. It's
just that I don't understand why it's now. And Lawrence
isn't the only one.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There were other.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Players who privately said stuff about him doing all the
other stuff. This is not a one guy. People know
your work, habits your teammates. They know who works hard,
who's skating, you know who's not locked in. And I
think that that's where Michael Parson's as I said it before,
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we need to change the name of his podcast to
turn off his micah because that's what needs to happen
in Dallas. If this guy really wants to live up
to his potential, it's disappointing. It really is.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
This dude, DeMarcus Lawrence gave his all to an organization,
and obviously he was paid, so it was a fair exchange.
But he's moving on and it's his right to tell
his story. It's his right to share why he wants
to leave. It's his right, by the way, Rob to
spit facts. And he ain't winning a super Bowl in Dallas.
You know why they ain't won a super Bowl almost
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thirty years. Okay, haven't been to an NFL haven't gone
to an NFC championship in twenty nine years. You know,
they're the only team I have two dudes go owing
three indivisional rounds. That would be Tony Romo and that
would be Dak Prescott. So don't get mad at Jamarsky
Lawrence for spitting facts.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Also keep my name and what I got going on
out your mouth. He said, hey, I always love Dallas.
It'll always be home, but I wouldn't going to Super
Bowl there. He didn't say, by the way, I don't
like Micah and the defense is trash and he ain't
a start.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Or Dak Prescott is a bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Exactly say that.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
So and then it called him. Now this in the
calling man a clown is wild. See that's where it gets.
If he said, hey, man, don't worry about us. We're
gonna be good without you, all right, that would be
already pushing. But it called somebody a clown, not text
messages where y'all had some personal beat, but to put
it out there on the internet, I disrespect. I think
that's very disrespectful and I don't respect somebody who's doing
that for a man who didn't say anything to you.
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And at this point, market Michah Parsons is becoming more
known for defending his tweets and defending his podcast then
he has defensively on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Michael Parsons is more known for that.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
He's more known for backpedaling and having the backtrack and
say different things online and podcasts and social media than
his own defensive stands and back pedaling on the defensive
side of the ball. Like, I'm disappointed again on what
he's become is more of a distraction and more of
like like you know, the teenagers who gossiped are the
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teenagers who get into trouble all the time on online.
That's what he's become. And it's a disappointment because of
how great he is. He is a great player, and
we should be talking about his prowess on the field,
not his prowess with his Twitter fingers.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Matter of fact, even Lawrence Taylor did say something about it.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
He did Lawrence Taylor said less Taylor, he said, less
of the podcasting, more of the footballing. So this is
just getting odd when when a young man has chosen
to become and put his nose in every conversation. And
I'm gonna say this again for those young people who
may be listening to the Odd Couple, just because you
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can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
So, yes, you can have a podcast.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yes you could have responded to DeMarcus Lawrence's uh, you
know his his comments. Yes you can talk about the
top ten quarterbacks. Oh, by the way, you might want
to put yours in there. And yes you can have
your own open discussions about your own negotiations publicly about
your own but you shouldn't and that would be something
I would tell Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I do want to say that. You know, you
talked about calling somebody a clown. A lot of people
wonder why they get blocked on my Twitter, And it's
real simple. When you get into name calling, you get blocked.
You by the way, it's my Twitter, and I'll block
it by walk to block it, walk to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Block by walk to you would block to if they
tried to dish you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's real simple. So you start with any kind of
names if you want to talk about the top clown
or debate right and disagree, but you have a take,
I'll go with that. But as soon as you start
the name call and you get blocked immediately.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I just can't believe he jumped in another man's business life,
like he literally did not mention him at all. All
he said was, Hey, I love Dallas dallass home from
there letters as if.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He owns the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Did Jerry Jones shy in like like what made you
feel like you needed to chime in on that?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
And again d Lawrence, they spent none but facts, rob
nothing but facts. And if you felt that type of way, Michael,
then you rally up the team and y'all shut everybody up.
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Speaker 5 (08:48):
The hits keep coming for stephen wardal Curry four thousand
career three pointers made in the NBA. That, of course,
is the highest market in ANBA history because he's the
only person who's ever hit four thousand. Just a couple
more numbers for you, Robery and your numbers guy. Steph Curry,
of course, all time leader in three pointers made. He
has been now for over three years. Okay. He ranks
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thirteenth all time at three point percentage, while taking, of course,
exponentially more attempts per game than everybody ahead of him.
He's led the league at three pointers made eight times.
He's responsible for twenty six of the NBA's one hundred
and four games with at least ten three pointers, as
well as five of the league seven seasons with three
hundred three pointers. In short, Steph Curry is that guy
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from Downtown.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Just not the greatest shooter of all time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And that's where we're gonna put this because I'm still
going to say I would take a lot of other
players before I would take Steph Curry in a big moment.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And this is what I'm saying, Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's real simple, and I'm definitely we can open this
up sooner than later because I really want to hear
from people and for them to understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I get you can make all the threes in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But when you ca somebody the greatest shooter, it means
under any circumstance, you would want him to have the
ball when you need a basket. Do you agree with
that or not? Yes, I don't care. What they all
say is well, you know, you know, one on one,
or he can't get open, or you know what.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
No, he's had fourteen looks.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I mean he's had.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Fourteen looks with a chance to tie or win the
game in the postseason, and he hasn't made one of them.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No one's saying.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's got to be eleven for fourteen or some outrageous
for you tell me this.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
If he had all the threes and he was seven.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For fourteen or whatever, then you could look at it
and go, man, you remember those big shots he made
when the game was on the line. And then if
you want to bring up and the biggest threes he
made came in the Olympics, and they don't even count
in the NBA, And only one of those shots was
considered a clutch shot, not by Rob Parker but by
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the NBA. It's the NBA and their definition of a
clutch shot down by five or less, with five minutes
to go or whatever. When he made those shots in
the Olympics, they were up by six and gave him
a nine point lead. If you're up by six, that's
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three baskets they need. Am I right to beat you?
That's not a clutch shot. And that's all I'm saying.
I think he's disqualified from being considered the greatest.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Is he the greatest three point maker? Without question?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I would be lying to him if I sat here
and said he wasn't he is, but the greatest shooter.
It is a difference between the two. I really believe
that I would give Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Michael jew
any of those people the ball would with the game
on the line, then I would give it to Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
All right.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
So I want to be very clear with how I'm
going to distinguish the conversation. For me, if you're asking
if Steph Curry the greatest shooter of all time, Steph
Curry is the greatest shooter of all time to me,
bar none, including everybody big time, not even close. For me,
Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of the basketball I
have ever seen on Earth. Now, if you're asking me
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clutch shot seven eight seconds or less?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who do I want to take a shot?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
He's way on the list for me, because that's not
his game.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Getting off a quick shot is not his game.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Getting him the ball with three seconds or lesson saying
go get us a bucket, that's not his game.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Seven.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So why did he have fourteen opportunities like that? Then?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
No, no, no, he got those opportunities because he is
the greatest shoot.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So well, they thought he's a great shooter.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, right, so that's why you can give the ball
and that if that's not him, And I'll give you
the perfect example. You consider Barry Sanders, the greatest running back. Yes, okay,
why did they take him out at the goal line
because he had too many Because they thought he had
too many losses behind the line of scrimmage and he
didn't have any room to work.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Barry Sanders wasn't in at the goal line.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Barry Sanders idiotic?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, but he wasn't, and so much I can't and I.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Get the idea. All he goes backward. No, that's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, but that's the way they played him. I'm just
telling you they did.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I saw it, you did too. I know, and they
drove everybody crazy. As you know, he came out Curry again.
Steph Curry has made some of the most spectacular shots.
He's the only person if he shot it from the back. Literally,
if another team scored the basket and he just chucked
the ball from there from the in the end, we
all would pause and go, wait, that might go in
before I go get this chips and dip. Hold on, wait,
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let me make it okay, he missed it. He's the
only person that ever made us do that. He's the
only person who started shooting shots rob and would run
the other way because it's going in. So I absolutely
believe he's the best shoot. I don't think you could
be the greatest, bro. You can be the greatest shooter
if that's.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Where my half of my ring my argument is.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
But I'm I'm let me let me throw this on
at that The reason why I like to distinguish, and
I hear you, But the reason why I disagree is
because people will do that with the best player of
all time. They'll go, uh so and so it is
better than Lebron And you go, why because if it
was the last shot, who would you want to take
that is not how I'm defining.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
No, but that's.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
People do that all the tube.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Lebron shoot the last Hey.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But that's not And if you're saying he's the greatest shooter,
you've already identified a skill. He's the greatest shooter, And
there's no way if he was really the greatest shooter
under any circumstance, I want steps to shoot the ball.
That That's what I'm trying to say to you. But
I've talked to him million NBA players and you know
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I'm exaggerating, and I've asked him and nobody picks stuff.
So I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Because I'm saying, that's one here, hear me out. Your
point is very valid, but it's one facet of the game. Meaning, Hey,
I need you to shoot a three. I need you
to shoot the midbrains. I need you to shoot a
left hand lip. I need you shoot a right hand lip.
I need you knocked down ninety plus percent of your
free throws. He does all of that, and but one
it's like thirty seconds or less or if you need
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them to get a quick shot off. That's not his game.
And I will admit that in his old peer group
he's low. I would take. I take Luke over him.
I take Kevin Durant over him. The best. The one
I'd probably take over all of them is Dame Lillard.
I've seen Dave do that a million times. I'd even
take Lebron just based off his size, able to get
a shot off easier.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's just not his game.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
But for that one facet, I won't now say he's
not the best shooter. He's done things shooting the ball
we've never I have never seen off the dribble, off picks.
It's incredible. So I won't go that far, although I
agree he is not the clutch at all and not
the guy I want to shoot that last week just to.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Me, it's it's an oxymoron. Oxy what am my?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know where we you know what I mean where
you're saying he's the greatest shooter. But I wouldn't want
to give him the ball. It doesn't it doesn't in
that spot. It doesn't make just one no but that,
but that. But that's a big part in calling somebody
the greatest shooter, and that That's what I'm trying to
say to you, is if Steph was that guy and
had made some big shots in his career. We're not
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talking about he's been around for five minuteses been around
for years, yes, okay, And if he was truly the
greatest shooter right and he got those fourteen opportunities, people
would have been like, oh my god. Not only does
he make all the threes of those situations, but he
also is clutch and makes those That to me seals
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the deal is that you can count on Steph to
score or hit that shot that you need.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
You could go look it up yourself. ESPN has compiled
the misses.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It ain't like he's eight guys who are on top
of him and he's missed. He's missed, He's had looks
in big moments and he's on for fourteen.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And that's all I'm saying, Like, I think you have
to take a look.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
At everything when you want to crown somebody the greatest
something of all time.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
I hear you, But again I look at it as
there's facets meaning he's gonna knock down a crazy amount
and crazy high percent of his free throws. He's gonna
make a barrage of threes, and that's his real skill set.
That's what he's done the most. And I talked about
this with you before. He's not a guy three seconds left,
three to two, hit the shot.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
What he is. We're down three, he hits three, four
shots in a row. Now we're up.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
We're up three, and it's other team has made an
incredible comeback.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
They're feeling themselves. Their crowd's going crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
He hits three or four threes and now they're out
the game again. That's what he does. He is the barrage.
He is a flow, hurry, bucket getter. But just singularly, hey,
sec like Kyrie, I would say, go get me a
shot over him.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
That's Kyrie's game.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't think there's so many guys right, But I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Kyrie is a better shooter than Steph Curry. You know
what I'm saying. But yes, a clus shot.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When you talk about somebody as being the greatest something
of all time, it has to encompass everything, and that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And yes, he's the.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Greatest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
He the bestball heat watch you, I mean watch this.
According to you, it's Joe Montana. He ain't the best
thrower of the football. He didn't have the strongest arm.
He wasn't the most mobile like that, but he's It's
all these things that made Joe mont.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's when I talk about greatness, it is about winning
and big moments. Joe Montana won four Super Bowls, lost none.
Two times he had to throw a touchdown to win
the game, not count on the field goal. Two times
he won with Jerry Rice, two times he won without
Jerry Rice. He has the highest quarterback rating of any quarterback.
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I mean, the numbers are eleven touchdowns, no picks, and
he did play well for the forty nine ers during
his career.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I'm not saying he was the greatest.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
The Dan Marino is considered by a lot of people,
maybe the greatest throw of the football Coronados, but that
doesn't make it but that it is because he didn't
have all the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
What Steph lacks is important to be deemed the greatest something.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Tom tom Brady for most people, is the great not all,
not all, that's a fair not all, but for most
Tom Brady did not have the strongest arm.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Tom Brady. For a year, Tom Brady.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Cheated through some dicks and dunks. Tom Brady wasn't running
from nobody, He wasn't running from a grandma in a wheelchair.
But he has deemed the greatest because of all the other.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Attributes put together.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's mostly because the greatest everything put together in the blender.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Even though he's missing the one in the clutch.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But I'm with you, he ain't the person I want
on that last shot.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But I've still never seen anybody shoot the ball like him.
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Speaker 7 (20:20):
Looks like the Bengals receivers are getting the bags, and
big time bags at that tell us a little bit
more about t Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
According to multiple outlets, the Cincinnati Bengals are very near
finalizing deals with both of their wide receivers. T Higgins,
as we know, it's been a long drawn out process
back to back franchise tags. Expectation is he'll be somewhere
between twenty eight and thirty two million dollars a season.
But the big headline Jamar Chase, who not only wants
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to be the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL
has stated through his representation he wants to be the
highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. Miles Garrett just
top forty million now. As a result, according to Diana Reciini,
the expectation is that Jamar Chase will indeed get forty
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plus million dollars a season, which means that these two
receivers will combine to average over seventy million dollars a
year to stay in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Hello, is this on this all? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Do they realize that without defense it ain't gonna matter
for real? Like the idea that you're gonna pay the
quarterback and two receivers that kind of cabbage. Do you
remember last year against the Ravens. Oh yeah, okay, when
Joe Burrow threw nine touchdowns in those two games and
lost both games. He threw nine touchdowns in two games
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against the Ravens and lost both games. And my big
point is you gotta make sure you take care of
the other side of the ball. Is well, you can't
outscore everybody. It can't be done. You gotta get stopped.
You gotta rush the passer, you gotta stop the run.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Hello, yeah, listen, I know they're trying to make Joe
Burrow happy, as they should. Right, that's their guy and
they want to have him for the next decade and
have shots at winning super Bowls. And part of making
him happy is signing his toys, right, his fast you know,
speed cars on the outside. T Higgins, Jamar Chase obviously
a long standing relationship with Jamar Chase. They go back
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to college, so that makes sense. I get it in Jamar
Chase is an actual game changer.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
The issue I had.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
More than anything Rob, is they could have done this
years ago, specifically with T.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Higgins.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
They franchise them, They're gonna franchise them this year again
would have been the second year. And then obviously they've
worked on a deal here, but they could have done
this in advance. And to me or you say, we
ain't letting Jamar go anywhere, the connection between him and
Joel is top notching the NFL. So we're nowhere signing
him for a longer deal. Then let's trade Teagans. Let's
sign him and trade him. Let's get what we can
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get out of him, so we can't secure some defense.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So to me, they had earlier options.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
It was to either get a deal done a year
or two ago so that they can pay him less.
You know, maybe it was twenty million, then maybe twenty billion,
and save a few extra millions on the back end,
and you have a.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Longer deal, you're good to go.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Or like I said, you sign and trade him to
get some the defensive guys, because one of the things
that you just mentioned. Look, you ain't got to be
the Baltimore Ravens or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in
O three to as far as defense, but you can't
be twenty fifth and average points per game that you allowed.
You can't be twenty fifth in total yards per game.
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That's not gonna cut it. And we saw that last
year when you had Joe Burrow playing some of the
best football of his life and in accounting for nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And so they gave up a bunch of rushing yards.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
They were nineteenth there, they gave up passing yards, they
were twenty first there. And by the way, the best
defensive player he ain't there, no more, Trey Henderson.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I guess they figured we put up seventy two points,
maybe who will beat you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Hopefully you don't give up seventy three.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And here's the other thing that will tell you all
you need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Joe Burrow had an unbelievable offensive year at quarterback. Yeah,
and got no first place votes in the MVP. And
that's because his defense couldn't win stop people to win
some games, you know what I mean. It affects everything.
So the idea of having this offense and thinking you're
just gonna outscore everybody doesn't make any sense. And I
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get it. You have to really starve wide receiver. You
got to figure it out. Maybe you can't keep both,
you know, like sometimes you can, and you need to
find somebody else and add some defense. That's all I'm saying.
I'm not mad at the guys getting paid. They deserve it.
It just seems weird for Cincinnati, Like that doesn't seem
like a winning proposition to me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It just doesn't win. Three players, yeah, take up so
much of the caps.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think it's fifty percent.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
If I'm not mistaken, fifty percent of the cap is
gonna be to those three players. Again, heck of a
three players right, put fifty percent? And again I just
reiterate my point that you had a chance to take
care of earlier. And one of the things good franchises
do rob their fortune tellers, right, they have great foresight.
They say, hmm, Joe Burrow is incredible. We know he's
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gonna be our guy, hopefully forever the whole you know,
tenure of his career, duration of his career. Jamar Chase
is incredible, has been from the jump. And you know
who else has been really dagone good the whole time
he's been in the league, Te Higgins.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So why don't we sign him early? Okay? Cool? Why
don't we give him a deal? Earth?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Okay, you know what, We're not gonna pay all three
of these guys, so let's sign him and get some
defensive guys around here. Let's tighten up this offensive line.
By the way, that's one of the things that wasn't
that great. They just Joe Burrow was able to make
it look.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Better than he was. So there are the few options
that they had.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And again, this is why the franchise has been one
of the more poorer RAN franchises last thirty years is
because of moves like this.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You gotta see what's coming.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's a mom her hop store. That's the problem.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
No, but you ain't gotta be a bad moment. Some
of our favorite restaurants are Mom and Pops. Right, some
of your favorite places to go get nice boutique clothes
or shoes are Mom and Pops. Just because his mom
and Pops don't mean that to be run wrong or incorrectly.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying like they don't have enough help,
They don't have enough foresight.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You know, it's it's it's run by Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Is Miss Cleo still with us? Rob Gy?
Speaker 7 (26:30):
They better go call it MIT's Cleo. Hey, what do
we need to do? What's happened in the future something?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
My goodness, Well, guys, what makes this even worse? And
you mentioned any other defense is bad? Trey Hendrickson may
or may not be back right now the way that
the free agency will see. But to your point, their
defense was bottom ten in yards, bottom ten in points allowed.
Here's the thing that makes it even worse if you
really want to dive deep into the numbers. Even with that,
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they were top ten in takeaways. As you guys know historically,
say for you know, maybe the Steelers and the Ravens
takeaways are very fluky.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yes, year to year, you.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Cannot always count on to turn the football over. So
let's say they regress to the middle of the pack.
You mean to tell me that they're gonna go from
twenty five points a game defensively down to twenty one
or is it gonna go out from twenty five to
twenty Egels, Here's.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's how real it is. Steve has some breaking news
right there.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Right, So, like, if that's the case, if they become
a normal average takeaway team, that number points per game
and yards per game is only gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, rob okay, here, now, let me play them in
this scenario.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
You're saying, Roggie, let's say you're right, and they even
would concede that point. What they're gonna say is, well,
we're not gonna be that bad defensively again, well we
just missed a few plays last year.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
If there are a couple of flu I'm just.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
That's what they're gonna get, you know, try to convince
themselves of hey, what did it? Just like you said,
we're gonna regress to the means turnovers, Well, we're gonna
regrets to the mean means of giving up you know,
points allowed yards, aliwed, we won't be that the bottom
we'll be in the middle of the pack.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
That's what I heard being when.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I heard from the Lions for twenty years when I
covered all the games.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Man, listen, man, if you don't stop going back to you,
I'm just I'm just stop bringing her up. Do nobody
want to hear about your bringing up your X all
the time in a negative?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But that's what I always heard, is the same. Well,
guess what you're about to hear what I used to
hear all the time. Oh yeah, you're just a Louisiana rub.
Rob Louisiana rubna be very You're gonna be so disappointed
like this will be and then you'll finally be like,
you know what the window did close?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I'm wrong, window. I can't believe you, Robgi, what you
tell this man? I want Louisiana rub and then the
other half. I want the uh Korean barbecue. So I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get eight and eight Louisiana rub
and Korean barbecue and I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And their fries are bombed too, by the way, Robgi,
you wh me on that?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Are you gonna mix that into the bet too?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Like?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Hey, I gotta get a sign of from wing's.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Gotta come with right, I mean that part of the deal.
I assume it's a meal. No, I'll take the ten piece.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No fries, no drinks.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well I want you to be depends on how far
we're taking the diet thing, you know what I mean.
If it's well, we got to the fall, we got
like I'm gonna die to the fall.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yes, it's the winner. Actually got to wait to the postseason.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Mine is going until October.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
This will be further than you being sexy. You'll be
sexual Rob.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
October fifth is when we're going to cheesecake factory right
after the show.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
October.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
They're going to be like, sir, this is ridiculous. You've
eaten us out of house. It will be met dubbin Allison.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I'm already giving up on our healthcake by you know, June,
and Rock's still going to be going.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And then you'll be a well he's got a longer yet.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Mine is just weighs one hundred and sixty nine pounds now, right.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, no, I do go below one seventy. I'm I'm
gonna make it. We're gonna have an intervention and I'm
not believing anything.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm not eating stuff and throwing
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Out no, but I'm saying if you go up below
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Rob G, We'll bring you in. DeMarcus Lawrence and Michaeh.
Parsons are beefing and it's pretty pretty out in the public.
One thing to be for have some words or saying stuff.
But ever since Lawrence left to what Seattle?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
What do you go? Yeah, Seattle.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
He went to.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Seattle and Michael Parsons called him a clown or whatever.
Rob G, fill us in because it took another step
on this thing.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well you mentioned it there. DeMarcus Lawrence had been a
lifelong Cowboy. He grew up in the area, so m
playing for the Dallas Cowboys was a big deal and
he wanted to resign this offseason. According to multiple reports,
they didn't even offer him an extension. They'd rather eat
the dead cap than bring him back this season. That's
how they felt about him towards the end, they thought
that his injuries had gotten to a point where he
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was no longer valuable enough on the field to offset
the leadership that he does provide off the field. So
he spoke to a Seahawks blogger one of those video
podcasts that they do, about his decision to leave Dallas
and join Seattle.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
And here's what DeMarcus Lawrence said.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
Change the scenery is always good, you know, But Dallas
is my home, made my home there. You know, my
family lives there forever going to be there. But I
know for sure I'm not going to win a Super
Bowl there out.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So when that went viral last night, right as this
show was ending, Michael Parsons, as he's been known to do,
went on Twitter fire back saying, quote, this what rejection
and envy look like? This some class blank de Marcus Lawrence,
because he had time, and now, who lives on the
West coast, so it was early for him, came right
(02:06):
back on Twitter with the tweet of his own saying, quote,
calling me a clown won't change the fact that I
told the truth. Maybe if you spent less time tweeting
more time winning, I would not have left.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
And you know what, thank goodness for the Marcus Lawrence
really because he just hit it right on the head.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Kelvin. And we've talked about it.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
People can do whatever they want in their spare time
and the offseason or whatever, but the Cowboys defense hasn't
been good enough, and we've seen what an embarrassing year
it was, especially early on when they were giving up
a forty piece of chicken every week, including that playoff
loss to Green Bay, and Michael Parsons should be At
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one point people were talking about him in the same
vein as a Lawrence Taylor, and I think that was
way premature.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
I get it, he got all to a great start,
but he hadn't been close to Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
The closest might be walking by him at the Super Bowl,
you know what I.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Mean, when we're in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, that's about as close as he is the Lawrence
Taylor at this point.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
And it was bad.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And he's done nothing more than to antagonize other players,
insult his own teammates, all kinds of stuff that to
me just doesn't doesn't feel good as far as having
a guy be a leader or somebody there. It just
seems like he's all worried about the future in life
after football, rather than just digging in and putting up,
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you know, and doing your best ten or twelve years
or whatever and going on at it and then from
there you if you make an impact as a player
and you have a personality, you have an opportunity. It's
just that I don't understand why it's now. And Lawrence
isn't the only one.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
There were other.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Players who privately said stuff about him doing all the
other stuff. This is not a one guy. People know
your work, habits your teammates. They know who works hard,
who's skating, you know who's not locked in. And I
think that that's where Michael Parson's as I said it before,
(04:18):
we need to change the name of his podcast to
turn off his micah because that's what needs to happen
in Dallas. If this guy really wants to live up
to his potential, it's disappointing. It really is.
Speaker 7 (04:32):
This dude, DeMarcus Lawrence gave his all to an organization,
and obviously he was paid, so it was a fair exchange.
But he's moving on and it's his right to tell
his story. It's his right to share why he wants
to leave. It's his right, by the way, Rob to
spit facts. And he ain't winning a super Bowl in Dallas.
You know why they ain't won a super Bowl almost
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thirty years. Okay, haven't been to an NFL haven't gone
to an NFC championship in twenty nine years. You know,
they're the only team I have two dudes go owing
three indivisional rounds. That would be Tony Romo and that
would be Dak Prescott. So don't get mad at Jamarsky
Lawrence for spitting facts.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Michael Parsons.
Speaker 7 (05:10):
Also keep my name and what I got going on
out your mouth. He said, hey, I always love Dallas.
It'll always be home, but I wouldn't going to Super
Bowl there. He didn't say, by the way, I don't
like Micah and the defense is trash and he ain't
a start.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Or Dak Prescott is a bomb.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Exactly say that.
Speaker 7 (05:26):
So and then it called him. Now this in the
calling man a clown is wild. See that's where it gets.
If he said, hey, man, don't worry about us. We're
gonna be good without you, all right, that would be
already pushing. But it called somebody a clown, not text
messages where y'all had some personal beat, but to put
it out there on the internet, I disrespect. I think
that's very disrespectful and I don't respect somebody who's doing
that for a man who didn't say anything to you.
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And at this point, market Michah Parsons is becoming more
known for defending his tweets and defending his podcast then
he has defensively on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Michael Parsons is more known for that.
Speaker 7 (06:02):
He's more known for backpedaling and having the backtrack and
say different things online and podcasts and social media than
his own defensive stands and back pedaling on the defensive
side of the ball. Like, I'm disappointed again on what
he's become is more of a distraction and more of
like like you know, the teenagers who gossiped are the
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teenagers who get into trouble all the time on online.
That's what he's become. And it's a disappointment because of
how great he is. He is a great player, and
we should be talking about his prowess on the field,
not his prowess with his Twitter fingers.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Matter of fact, even Lawrence Taylor did say something about it.
Speaker 7 (06:38):
He did Lawrence Taylor said less Taylor, he said, less
of the podcasting, more of the footballing. So this is
just getting odd when when a young man has chosen
to become and put his nose in every conversation. And
I'm gonna say this again for those young people who
may be listening to the Odd Couple, just because you
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can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
So, yes, you can have a podcast.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yes you could have responded to DeMarcus Lawrence's uh, you
know his his comments. Yes you can talk about the
top ten quarterbacks. Oh, by the way, you might want
to put yours in there. And yes you can have
your own open discussions about your own negotiations publicly about
your own but you shouldn't and that would be something
I would tell Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And I do want to say that. You know, you
talked about calling somebody a clown. A lot of people
wonder why they get blocked on my Twitter, And it's
real simple. When you get into name calling, you get blocked.
You by the way, it's my Twitter, and I'll block
it by walk to block it, walk to.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Block by walk to you would block to if they
tried to dish you.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's real simple. So you start with any kind of
names if you want to talk about the top clown
or debate right and disagree, but you have a take,
I'll go with that. But as soon as you start
the name call and you get blocked immediately.
Speaker 7 (08:08):
I just can't believe he jumped in another man's business life,
like he literally did not mention him at all. All
he said was, Hey, I love Dallas dallass home from
there letters as if.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
He owns the Cowboys?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Did Jerry Jones shy in like like what made you
feel like you needed to chime in on that?
Speaker 7 (08:24):
And again d Lawrence, they spent none but facts, rob
nothing but facts. And if you felt that type of way, Michael,
then you rally up the team and y'all shut everybody up.
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Speaker 5 (08:48):
The hits keep coming for stephen wardal Curry four thousand
career three pointers made in the NBA. That, of course,
is the highest market in ANBA history because he's the
only person who's ever hit four thousand. Just a couple
more numbers for you, Robery and your numbers guy. Steph Curry,
of course, all time leader in three pointers made. He
has been now for over three years. Okay. He ranks
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thirteenth all time at three point percentage, while taking, of course,
exponentially more attempts per game than everybody ahead of him.
He's led the league at three pointers made eight times.
He's responsible for twenty six of the NBA's one hundred
and four games with at least ten three pointers, as
well as five of the league seven seasons with three
hundred three pointers. In short, Steph Curry is that guy
(09:33):
from Downtown.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Just not the greatest shooter of all time.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And that's where we're gonna put this because I'm still
going to say I would take a lot of other
players before I would take Steph Curry in a big moment.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And this is what I'm saying, Kelvin.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
It's real simple, and I'm definitely we can open this
up sooner than later because I really want to hear
from people and for them to understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I get you can make all the threes in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But when you ca somebody the greatest shooter, it means
under any circumstance, you would want him to have the
ball when you need a basket. Do you agree with
that or not? Yes, I don't care. What they all
say is well, you know, you know, one on one,
or he can't get open, or you know what.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
No, he's had fourteen looks.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Yeah, I mean he's had.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Fourteen looks with a chance to tie or win the
game in the postseason, and he hasn't made one of them.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No one's saying.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
He's got to be eleven for fourteen or some outrageous
for you tell me this.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
If he had all the threes and he was seven.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
For fourteen or whatever, then you could look at it
and go, man, you remember those big shots he made
when the game was on the line. And then if
you want to bring up and the biggest threes he
made came in the Olympics, and they don't even count
in the NBA, And only one of those shots was
considered a clutch shot, not by Rob Parker but by
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the NBA. It's the NBA and their definition of a
clutch shot down by five or less, with five minutes
to go or whatever. When he made those shots in
the Olympics, they were up by six and gave him
a nine point lead. If you're up by six, that's
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three baskets they need. Am I right to beat you?
That's not a clutch shot. And that's all I'm saying.
I think he's disqualified from being considered the greatest.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Is he the greatest three point maker? Without question?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I would be lying to him if I sat here
and said he wasn't he is, but the greatest shooter.
It is a difference between the two. I really believe
that I would give Ray Allen, Reggie Miller, Michael jew
any of those people the ball would with the game
on the line, then I would give it to Steph Curry.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
All right.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
So I want to be very clear with how I'm
going to distinguish the conversation. For me, if you're asking
if Steph Curry the greatest shooter of all time, Steph
Curry is the greatest shooter of all time to me,
bar none, including everybody big time, not even close. For me,
Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of the basketball I
have ever seen on Earth. Now, if you're asking me
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clutch shot seven eight seconds or less?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Who do I want to take a shot?
Speaker 7 (12:33):
He's way on the list for me, because that's not
his game.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Getting off a quick shot is not his game.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
Getting him the ball with three seconds or lesson saying
go get us a bucket, that's not his game.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Seven.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
So why did he have fourteen opportunities like that? Then?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
No, no, no, he got those opportunities because he is
the greatest shoot.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
So well, they thought he's a great shooter.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Okay, right, so that's why you can give the ball
and that if that's not him, And I'll give you
the perfect example. You consider Barry Sanders, the greatest running back. Yes, okay,
why did they take him out at the goal line
because he had too many Because they thought he had
too many losses behind the line of scrimmage and he
didn't have any room to work.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Barry Sanders wasn't in at the goal line.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Barry Sanders idiotic?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, but he wasn't, and so much I can't and I.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Get the idea. All he goes backward. No, that's idiotic.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Okay, but that's the way they played him. I'm just
telling you they did.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
I saw it, you did too. I know, and they
drove everybody crazy. As you know, he came out Curry again.
Steph Curry has made some of the most spectacular shots.
He's the only person if he shot it from the back. Literally,
if another team scored the basket and he just chucked
the ball from there from the in the end, we
all would pause and go, wait, that might go in
before I go get this chips and dip. Hold on, wait,
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let me make it okay, he missed it. He's the
only person that ever made us do that. He's the
only person who started shooting shots rob and would run
the other way because it's going in. So I absolutely
believe he's the best shoot. I don't think you could
be the greatest, bro. You can be the greatest shooter
if that's.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Where my half of my ring my argument is.
Speaker 7 (14:12):
But I'm I'm let me let me throw this on
at that The reason why I like to distinguish, and
I hear you, But the reason why I disagree is
because people will do that with the best player of
all time. They'll go, uh so and so it is
better than Lebron And you go, why because if it
was the last shot, who would you want to take
that is not how I'm defining.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
No, but that's.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
People do that all the tube.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Lebron shoot the last Hey.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
But that's not And if you're saying he's the greatest shooter,
you've already identified a skill. He's the greatest shooter, And
there's no way if he was really the greatest shooter
under any circumstance, I want steps to shoot the ball.
That That's what I'm trying to say to you. But
I've talked to him million NBA players and you know
(15:01):
I'm exaggerating, and I've asked him and nobody picks stuff.
So I'm saying.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Because I'm saying, that's one here, hear me out. Your
point is very valid, but it's one facet of the game. Meaning, Hey,
I need you to shoot a three. I need you
to shoot the midbrains. I need you to shoot a
left hand lip. I need you shoot a right hand lip.
I need you knocked down ninety plus percent of your
free throws. He does all of that, and but one
it's like thirty seconds or less or if you need
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them to get a quick shot off. That's not his game.
And I will admit that in his old peer group
he's low. I would take. I take Luke over him.
I take Kevin Durant over him. The best. The one
I'd probably take over all of them is Dame Lillard.
I've seen Dave do that a million times. I'd even
take Lebron just based off his size, able to get
a shot off easier.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That's just not his game.
Speaker 7 (15:46):
But for that one facet, I won't now say he's
not the best shooter. He's done things shooting the ball
we've never I have never seen off the dribble, off picks.
It's incredible. So I won't go that far, although I
agree he is not the clutch at all and not
the guy I want to shoot that last week just to.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Me, it's it's an oxymoron. Oxy what am my?
Speaker 6 (16:09):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
You know where we you know what I mean where
you're saying he's the greatest shooter. But I wouldn't want
to give him the ball. It doesn't it doesn't in
that spot. It doesn't make just one no but that,
but that. But that's a big part in calling somebody
the greatest shooter, and that That's what I'm trying to
say to you, is if Steph was that guy and
had made some big shots in his career. We're not
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talking about he's been around for five minuteses been around
for years, yes, okay, And if he was truly the
greatest shooter right and he got those fourteen opportunities, people
would have been like, oh my god. Not only does
he make all the threes of those situations, but he
also is clutch and makes those That to me seals
(16:53):
the deal is that you can count on Steph to
score or hit that shot that you need.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
You could go look it up yourself. ESPN has compiled
the misses.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
It ain't like he's eight guys who are on top
of him and he's missed. He's missed, He's had looks
in big moments and he's on for fourteen.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And that's all I'm saying, Like, I think you have
to take a look.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
At everything when you want to crown somebody the greatest
something of all time.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
I hear you, But again I look at it as
there's facets meaning he's gonna knock down a crazy amount
and crazy high percent of his free throws. He's gonna
make a barrage of threes, and that's his real skill set.
That's what he's done the most. And I talked about
this with you before. He's not a guy three seconds left,
three to two, hit the shot.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
What he is. We're down three, he hits three, four
shots in a row. Now we're up.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
We're up three, and it's other team has made an
incredible comeback.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
They're feeling themselves. Their crowd's going crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (17:53):
He hits three or four threes and now they're out
the game again. That's what he does. He is the barrage.
He is a flow, hurry, bucket getter. But just singularly, hey,
sec like Kyrie, I would say, go get me a
shot over him.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
That's Kyrie's game.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
I don't think there's so many guys right, But I
don't think.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
Kyrie is a better shooter than Steph Curry. You know
what I'm saying. But yes, a clus shot.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
When you talk about somebody as being the greatest something
of all time, it has to encompass everything, and that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
And yes, he's the.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Greatest quarterback of all time.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
He the bestball heat watch you, I mean watch this.
According to you, it's Joe Montana. He ain't the best
thrower of the football. He didn't have the strongest arm.
He wasn't the most mobile like that, but he's It's
all these things that made Joe mont.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
It's when I talk about greatness, it is about winning
and big moments. Joe Montana won four Super Bowls, lost none.
Two times he had to throw a touchdown to win
the game, not count on the field goal. Two times
he won with Jerry Rice, two times he won without
Jerry Rice. He has the highest quarterback rating of any quarterback.
(19:07):
I mean, the numbers are eleven touchdowns, no picks, and
he did play well for the forty nine ers during
his career.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I'm not saying he was the greatest.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
The Dan Marino is considered by a lot of people,
maybe the greatest throw of the football Coronados, but that
doesn't make it but that it is because he didn't
have all the other stuff.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
What Steph lacks is important to be deemed the greatest something.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Tom tom Brady for most people, is the great not all,
not all, that's a fair not all, but for most
Tom Brady did not have the strongest arm.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Tom Brady. For a year, Tom Brady.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
Cheated through some dicks and dunks. Tom Brady wasn't running
from nobody, He wasn't running from a grandma in a wheelchair.
But he has deemed the greatest because of all the other.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Attributes put together.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's mostly because the greatest everything put together in the blender.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Even though he's missing the one in the clutch.
Speaker 7 (20:02):
But I'm with you, he ain't the person I want
on that last shot.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But I've still never seen anybody shoot the ball like him.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
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Speaker 7 (20:20):
Looks like the Bengals receivers are getting the bags, and
big time bags at that tell us a little bit
more about t Higgins and Jamar Chase.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (20:27):
According to multiple outlets, the Cincinnati Bengals are very near
finalizing deals with both of their wide receivers. T Higgins,
as we know, it's been a long drawn out process
back to back franchise tags. Expectation is he'll be somewhere
between twenty eight and thirty two million dollars a season.
But the big headline Jamar Chase, who not only wants
(20:50):
to be the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL
has stated through his representation he wants to be the
highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. Miles Garrett just
top forty million now. As a result, according to Diana Reciini,
the expectation is that Jamar Chase will indeed get forty
(21:10):
plus million dollars a season, which means that these two
receivers will combine to average over seventy million dollars a
year to stay in Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Hello, is this on this all? Okay?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Do they realize that without defense it ain't gonna matter
for real? Like the idea that you're gonna pay the
quarterback and two receivers that kind of cabbage. Do you
remember last year against the Ravens. Oh yeah, okay, when
Joe Burrow threw nine touchdowns in those two games and
lost both games. He threw nine touchdowns in two games
(21:50):
against the Ravens and lost both games. And my big
point is you gotta make sure you take care of
the other side of the ball. Is well, you can't
outscore everybody. It can't be done. You gotta get stopped.
You gotta rush the passer, you gotta stop the run.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Hello, yeah, listen, I know they're trying to make Joe
Burrow happy, as they should. Right, that's their guy and
they want to have him for the next decade and
have shots at winning super Bowls. And part of making
him happy is signing his toys, right, his fast you know,
speed cars on the outside. T Higgins, Jamar Chase obviously
a long standing relationship with Jamar Chase. They go back
(22:33):
to college, so that makes sense. I get it in Jamar
Chase is an actual game changer.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
The issue I had.
Speaker 7 (22:39):
More than anything Rob, is they could have done this
years ago, specifically with T.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Higgins.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
They franchise them, They're gonna franchise them this year again
would have been the second year. And then obviously they've
worked on a deal here, but they could have done
this in advance. And to me or you say, we
ain't letting Jamar go anywhere, the connection between him and
Joel is top notching the NFL. So we're nowhere signing
him for a longer deal. Then let's trade Teagans. Let's
sign him and trade him. Let's get what we can
(23:07):
get out of him, so we can't secure some defense.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
So to me, they had earlier options.
Speaker 7 (23:12):
It was to either get a deal done a year
or two ago so that they can pay him less.
You know, maybe it was twenty million, then maybe twenty billion,
and save a few extra millions on the back end,
and you have a.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Longer deal, you're good to go.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
Or like I said, you sign and trade him to
get some the defensive guys, because one of the things
that you just mentioned. Look, you ain't got to be
the Baltimore Ravens or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers back in
O three to as far as defense, but you can't
be twenty fifth and average points per game that you allowed.
You can't be twenty fifth in total yards per game.
(23:45):
That's not gonna cut it. And we saw that last
year when you had Joe Burrow playing some of the
best football of his life and in accounting for nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
And so they gave up a bunch of rushing yards.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
They were nineteenth there, they gave up passing yards, they
were twenty first there. And by the way, the best
defensive player he ain't there, no more, Trey Henderson.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
So I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 7 (24:05):
I guess they figured we put up seventy two points,
maybe who will beat you.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Hopefully you don't give up seventy three.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
And here's the other thing that will tell you all
you need to know.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Joe Burrow had an unbelievable offensive year at quarterback. Yeah,
and got no first place votes in the MVP. And
that's because his defense couldn't win stop people to win
some games, you know what I mean. It affects everything.
So the idea of having this offense and thinking you're
just gonna outscore everybody doesn't make any sense. And I
(24:35):
get it. You have to really starve wide receiver. You
got to figure it out. Maybe you can't keep both,
you know, like sometimes you can, and you need to
find somebody else and add some defense. That's all I'm saying.
I'm not mad at the guys getting paid. They deserve it.
It just seems weird for Cincinnati, Like that doesn't seem
like a winning proposition to me.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
It just doesn't win. Three players, yeah, take up so
much of the caps.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
I think it's fifty percent.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
If I'm not mistaken, fifty percent of the cap is
gonna be to those three players. Again, heck of a
three players right, put fifty percent? And again I just
reiterate my point that you had a chance to take
care of earlier. And one of the things good franchises
do rob their fortune tellers, right, they have great foresight.
They say, hmm, Joe Burrow is incredible. We know he's
(25:24):
gonna be our guy, hopefully forever the whole you know,
tenure of his career, duration of his career. Jamar Chase
is incredible, has been from the jump. And you know
who else has been really dagone good the whole time
he's been in the league, Te Higgins.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
So why don't we sign him early? Okay? Cool? Why
don't we give him a deal? Earth?
Speaker 7 (25:39):
Okay, you know what, We're not gonna pay all three
of these guys, so let's sign him and get some
defensive guys around here. Let's tighten up this offensive line.
By the way, that's one of the things that wasn't
that great. They just Joe Burrow was able to make
it look.
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Better than he was. So there are the few options
that they had.
Speaker 7 (25:54):
And again, this is why the franchise has been one
of the more poorer RAN franchises last thirty years is
because of moves like this.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
You gotta see what's coming.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's a mom her hop store. That's the problem.
Speaker 7 (26:05):
No, but you ain't gotta be a bad moment. Some
of our favorite restaurants are Mom and Pops. Right, some
of your favorite places to go get nice boutique clothes
or shoes are Mom and Pops. Just because his mom
and Pops don't mean that to be run wrong or incorrectly.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Yeah, I'm just saying like they don't have enough help,
They don't have enough foresight.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
You know, it's it's it's run by Mike Brown.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Is Miss Cleo still with us? Rob Gy?
Speaker 7 (26:30):
They better go call it MIT's Cleo. Hey, what do
we need to do? What's happened in the future something?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
My goodness, Well, guys, what makes this even worse? And
you mentioned any other defense is bad? Trey Hendrickson may
or may not be back right now the way that
the free agency will see. But to your point, their
defense was bottom ten in yards, bottom ten in points allowed.
Here's the thing that makes it even worse if you
really want to dive deep into the numbers. Even with that,
(26:56):
they were top ten in takeaways. As you guys know historically,
say for you know, maybe the Steelers and the Ravens
takeaways are very fluky.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yes, year to year, you.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Cannot always count on to turn the football over. So
let's say they regress to the middle of the pack.
You mean to tell me that they're gonna go from
twenty five points a game defensively down to twenty one
or is it gonna go out from twenty five to
twenty Egels, Here's.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's how real it is. Steve has some breaking news
right there.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Right, So, like, if that's the case, if they become
a normal average takeaway team, that number points per game
and yards per game is only gonna get worse.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
Well, rob okay, here, now, let me play them in
this scenario.
Speaker 7 (27:40):
You're saying, Roggie, let's say you're right, and they even
would concede that point. What they're gonna say is, well,
we're not gonna be that bad defensively again, well we
just missed a few plays last year.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
If there are a couple of flu I'm just.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
That's what they're gonna get, you know, try to convince
themselves of hey, what did it? Just like you said,
we're gonna regress to the means turnovers, Well, we're gonna
regrets to the mean means of giving up you know,
points allowed yards, aliwed, we won't be that the bottom
we'll be in the middle of the pack.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
That's what I heard being when.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I heard from the Lions for twenty years when I
covered all the games.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
Man, listen, man, if you don't stop going back to you,
I'm just I'm just stop bringing her up. Do nobody
want to hear about your bringing up your X all
the time in a negative?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
But that's what I always heard, is the same. Well,
guess what you're about to hear what I used to
hear all the time. Oh yeah, you're just a Louisiana rub.
Rob Louisiana rubna be very You're gonna be so disappointed
like this will be and then you'll finally be like,
you know what the window did close?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
I'm wrong, window. I can't believe you, Robgi, what you
tell this man? I want Louisiana rub and then the
other half. I want the uh Korean barbecue. So I'm
gonna get I'm gonna get eight and eight Louisiana rub
and Korean barbecue and I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And their fries are bombed too, by the way, Robgi,
you wh me on that?
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Are you gonna mix that into the bet too?
Speaker 3 (28:57):
Like?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Hey, I gotta get a sign of from wing's.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Gotta come with right, I mean that part of the deal.
I assume it's a meal. No, I'll take the ten piece.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
No fries, no drinks.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Well I want you to be depends on how far
we're taking the diet thing, you know what I mean.
If it's well, we got to the fall, we got
like I'm gonna die to the fall.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Yes, it's the winner. Actually got to wait to the postseason.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
Mine is going until October.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
This will be further than you being sexy. You'll be
sexual Rob.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
October fifth is when we're going to cheesecake factory right
after the show.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
October.
Speaker 7 (29:30):
They're going to be like, sir, this is ridiculous. You've
eaten us out of house. It will be met dubbin Allison.
Speaker 5 (29:36):
I'm already giving up on our healthcake by you know, June,
and Rock's still going to be going.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
And then you'll be a well he's got a longer yet.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Mine is just weighs one hundred and sixty nine pounds now, right.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
No, no, I do go below one seventy. I'm I'm
gonna make it. We're gonna have an intervention and I'm
not believing anything.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I'm not eating stuff and throwing
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Out no, but I'm saying if you go up below
one seventy seventy five
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