May 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Tyrese Haliburton’s postseason heroics the last two weeks serve as a sort of indictment on Steph Curry and his lack thereof and argue whether Anthony Edwards has the right mental makeup to absorb criticism and reach his full potential. Plus, former NBA All-Star center Roy Hibbert swings by to discuss the evolution of Tyrese Haliburton, why the Indiana Pacers are up 2-0 on the Cleveland Cavaliers and much more!
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Harker, Hyves Halliburton obviously just the unbelievable story and the
big shot and now this year, are you ready? Yes,
with two minutes or less to play, he's ten for eleven.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Did you hear what I said?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's with two minutes to play on game winners? Right,
ten for eleven. Not only that, now you need to
make the one last night. He made another one the
week before, right the one his dad went out on
the court and all that.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So he has two game winners in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And the first thing I thought of, I'm gonna be
honest a lofside from how in the.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
World did they win that game?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And man, does he have some onions that he's gonna
get fined for because we saw the onion right he
was carrying onions around him for the NBA was not
happy with that. First your dad, and now you got
onions and now we got an issue.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I can deal with the onions, okay, yeah, more so
than this. Those didn't make them cry like that. Those onions.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But my first thought was, rob g how many years
has Steph Curry played?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Fifteen years in the NBA? Is it one five fifteen?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And Steph Curry doesn't have one like that in the postseason.
Tyrese Halliburn has had two in the last week. He's
had two in the last week. It's a further indictment
on Steph Curry. You can't give me any excuses. Oh,
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the timeframe you have just why is it just in
the final fifty seconds or two minutes or whatever it is.
We're talking about making a clutch shot in a big spot.
You can't give me a Steph Curry basket like that?
(02:30):
How can you play that long, win as much as
Steph Curry's won win championships and not be able to
have that shot that people remember you buy. I don't
care what Tyree's haller Burton does going forward.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
People remember that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They will people remember moments and when games end like that,
that's what heightens your awarability?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And people knowing like that guy Robert Rory, nobody could
tell you, But nobody could tell you how many times
he made the All Star team?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Was her starter? Was he on the bench?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But everybody who watches basketball knows, Robert or are you
kidding me? That dude was sensational? You better not leave
him open in a big spot. He'll make your pay.
It is an indictment of Steph Curry, that's all. And
I'm not here to like not talk about Halliburton and
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what he's been able to do. But it's mind boggling
to me that you could play fifteen years, win four championships,
playing a gazillion playoff games. All right, there was only
a handful of years they didn't make the playoffs. And
you don't have a signature moment. How is that possible?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Kelvin, Rob you know I love you like a play cousin,
But this has gone too far. Steph Curry, Kay, He's
sitting up there trying to heal his hamstring right now,
thinking about his team, how they won.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
For him, how they fought for him.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They got a good first game win in that series,
minding his own business with the Curry family, and you're
taking a shot at him. He is sitting there trying
to heal this hammy and you're taking shots to him. Boy,
he trying to heal his hammy while you over here
getting eating your ham sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
When does it come a little.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Bit later later on? Let me let me say this
with cheese. Steph Curry has four rings. We know all
the MVPs. Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of all time.
I agree it's strange that he doesn't have a moment,
but he has these flurry moments.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Matter of fact, Alex, you were here when we discover
with them.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
At any time he springs up, Steph Curry, you know
what's coming. Find on there a whap babba dooo baba
wap bamboo. Please find that it's on there. Mary already
has it for me. That's what I need to hear
right now. But while Alex is getting that, because he
just got back, I'll say you can't find it. No,
you can find it. When you find it, let me
know so I can make my point. I want to
choose to praise Sareez Halliburton you know why. This is
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the second time that he has made a game winning play,
a game winning shot, and the story or the headline
is something else. He beats Milwaukee's sends you on his
home wins one and his pops ruins the situation for him.
So now all we're doing is talking about his pops.
The next time he hits a game winner, we should
be talking about how good he is. Maybe over they
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taught him overrated, maybe he's underrated. But then Rob Parker
decides to talk about Steph Curry, who all he does
is this wop.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Baba loo mom blump bum what I'm talking about? No,
he doesn't. He doesn't hit a game winner, but he
hits you with a Florida wap bah blah loo baba
what ba boom, That's what he does. He doesn't we
wanted again, Alex walk bab mom, that's what he does.
So he doesn't have a three two one game winner.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Little Richard is one of the all time greats and
he had It's like Steph Curry not having any hit records.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Little Richard had hit records.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, he might be in Againness book for the most
album sold then and and albums of the year also
known as MVPs and dad gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Fin us not digress. I don't want to play. This
is about Steph.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Steph Curry has icy hot on his hamstring right now.
This is about Tyreese Halliburton. His daddy stole his spotlight.
Rob Parker's trying to steal his spotlight. Talking about Steph Curry,
you mentioned ten of eleven with nine seconds left or
under whatever it is, sexual minute, two minutes, two minutes,
he was fourteen percent most overrated.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
They voted him he is on a good air from
now to that. We are gonna get that. He's on
a tear for that other topic that we'll talk about.
And lastly, I say it again.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They say, the regular season, you become an All Star,
you play good, that's where you make your name. The
playoffs is where you make your fame. And he's been
doing just that. So it shout out to him. Game winners,
got his team up to and let that boy shine
and stop bringing up Steph Curry. Got all these championships,
all these MVPs, and you worried about that.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I just can't believe it. Every time and time again,
it is unbelievable. Steph Curry the well is dry. There's
nothing there, nothing for those Steph Curry fans to hold
on to and say, oh yeah, I remember when I
got goosebumps because Steph did this or knocked down that shot,
or knocked down this or that.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Nothing zero not all.
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Speaker 1 (07:38):
He's Rob Im Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, and we
have right now Roy Hebbert, former NBA All Star Center
and of course now doing some NBA calling, our talk,
analyzing some games. Get ready to join us now, Roy,
looking forward to getting your thoughts. So what we've been
saying so far and what I believe has been a
pretty fun playoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
What's happening? Roy?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hey, I appreciate you guys having me a big fans,
big fans ready to talk basketball man.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Thank you, Thank you appreciate that a lot, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I want to ask you this as a big fella.
We were just talking about this yesterday. Twofold question for you, Roy,
how special is Jokids just as far as what you've
seen his unique gifts, his talents. And then I do
want to ask you something I had I brought up yesterday.
What do you think it would have been like if
he had to go uf? You were playing an area
and even a little before you where it had true force,
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true fives, meaning you had Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace. You know,
you had Uh, Dirk Nevinsky and Tyson Chandler and Kendrick
and KG, Tim Duncan, David Robinson where it would have
been a lot harder. I believe Uh to to defend
and also have to defend on the other end.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But what do you make a yo kid Jen? How
would you stop him if you were playing.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Man with Joki? Well, first of all, I love his game,
like the ability to you know, have that and I
would say offwards three from deep, but then to be
able to hit that such a good clip and then
be able to drive to the basket. That's what he's
doing against his OKC team. He's putting a lot of
pressure on the on the front court. You know, Chet Holmgrom,
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he had some fouls early, you know, trying to wear
him down. So he's trying to go through his body
as much as possible. But the thing about about Joker
is he had such good complimentary players around them where
he can, you know, make a drive and it he
can just make a behind the back pass to Aaron
Gordon because he's so reliable and you know he's always
in this spot and then you know he just has
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such a good feel for the game. But like he
picks people apart and he's been really aggressive with his
matchup in this playoff series.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think the stat line the other the other day
nobody had ever done in an NBA playoff game, Like,
like Jack, your point about the other centers there is fine,
But the only problem is, like he's taking advantage of
the situation and playing at a level. What do you
have Earlier this year when he had the sixty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I mean, Roy, you see those numbers. It's mind boggling,
isn't it It is?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It is, And you know he had such a good
game and he'll turn the ball over from time to time.
I mean he had seven, but like there's like no
drop in type of play, Like your star player maybe
having a great game, but he may have some turnovers.
Those guys just step up in this play such so well.
I just have to say, Russell Westbrook and Christian Brown,
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they play so well together in the tandem, like on
the fast break as well, put in a lot of pressure.
So I think, you know, Denver, you know they have
championship material on them.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Let's talk about your former team, the Pacers, and I
mean they absolutely just stole the game that they had
no business winning. And I mean, I know the NBA
players voted Halliburn overrated, overrated, but my goodness, he's had
two game winners in ten days in a week.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I should say, how scary are them?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Because I think most people in NBA America fell asleep
on the Pacers during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, I feel like that's just been pretty much how
people feel about the Pacers, you know, throughout my tenure there,
and then you know after I get a lot of
memes about they don't watch us play, but they do
play a good style of basketball where they play with
a lot of pace. Now. Game one, they were really
Chris with their offense and they were able to hit
you know, a lot of threes. Nate Smith played well,
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Matt fill played well. But in Game two, early on
they had a lot of fouls. They had a lot
of fouls. They had twenty six files to twenty one.
They had a lot, and they combined that with a
lot of turnovers, and I felt like the Cavs defense
was really honing in on that second unit in terms
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of them hard and McConnell. They had a little turnovers
and that mixed with some misshots put them in a hole.
But the fortitude of that team had to not give
up in that environment, being down twenty and just keep
chipping away says a lot about who they are. And
the last thing I'll say is, you know, a win's
a win in the playoffs, but at the same time,
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you have to look back at it after and like, man,
it's good to get this win. But the Calves are down,
you know, three key players and Donald Mitchell had such
a good game and they only beat the Pacers by one,
So that to me is a little thing that I'm
a little worried about. But being able to go back
home to Indiana for the next two games, I still
think the Pacers potentially do it in five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you think this is Roy Hibbert our guest, By
the way, former NBA All Star Center All with the
ot couble, do you think they have what it takes
to finish to close the job? I mean, you mentioned
if you're Cleveland, you're saying, man, we were down a
few stars, we'll be fine. We can get back in
this thing. Do you think they have what it takes
to get on and maybe potentially play at Boston or
New York But it looks like it's gonna be Boston.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But do they have that?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I don't know. I think they'll be able to get
past the Cavs. And just to say, just watch Scruce's
post game. He looked, he sounds defeated, and I feel
like maybe the Pacer that that win maybe maybe broke them.
Not sure if they're going to get back now. Now
with the Celtics, I do see some cracks in the
armor potentially, you know, I'm not sure if for Zingis
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is playing right now and what's the issue with him.
But I do see some opportunities with the pace of
which the Pacers play at and they turn whether it's
a live ball turnover or even a mad shot, they
turned it into fast break opportunities. With the Celtics with
a three point shooting percentage, they've been doing if the
Pacers get like two or three fast breaks opportunities, things
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could go their way early.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
How about end of games.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
We've seen teams just cough up games, can't get the
ball in bounds. Don't like I just can't get over it.
When you when you played, aren't those things that you
work on about. You're expecting pressure. They're gonna pressure us
at the end of the game to get the ball
in and you got to figure out is that is
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that the way you do it? Roy, where you like,
here's your first option. You got to do this, You
got to do that. Last night, I can't remember who
threw the ball and bounds, but basically throw it to
the other team.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Just threw it to question.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know at the end of games.
You know, when I played, we'd have a situation where
we'd have the blue team versus the white team, and
you know, we need a bucket. You know, we need
to get the ball inbounds to get this one shot.
So we would do this thing over and over and over,
and we'd have certain times where like the blue team
did not let us get that that bucket. So you know,
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to see that at the end of the game that
maybe that's just a little bit of execution. Maybe that
player has not been in that situation before where you know,
things get a little tight and you throw it away.
So hopefully that player can learn from that and move on.
But you know, there's a situation situation. I'm not sure
if you guys can remember, but a team was up
three and I think they went to foul. I think
it might have been the Denver.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah it was. It was the thunder. They filed, They
filed Denver.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
They fell. They fall too quickly, too quickly, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So those just like make you scratch your head and
just be like, oh, this play like solid defense. But
you know, I don't know. But you know, they have
a job in coaching in the NBA and I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So that don't mean you're wrong. I must say. You
know what else you got right? You got eyes? We
all saw it. Yeah, I mean like it ain't rocket side.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I tell people all the time, you don't have to
have played twenty years in the NBA to look at it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Go that's a bad that's a bad file to do that. There.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Hey, let's stay I'm gonna go to the Western Conference
real quick. We saw last night Minnesota I don't know
if they came in tired. I don't know if they
were just arrogant thinking, hey, you know where we just
beat h Lebron and Luke and feeling good. What happened
there with Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And uh?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And what are you making the Warriors ever since they
got Jimmy Butler. Obviously Steph is gonna be out a
week or so, but what do you make of the Warriors?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Man? I feel like the Warriors that have been there,
and obviously it's like trickle down effect in terms of
like how their players play. And obviously with Steph, you know,
potentially being out for a while, obviously that could be
an issue. But I mean they're a tough team. I
don't know if they're gonna win the series, but they're
showing me a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough without him, but
I think getting that first game was huge rob So
even if they were to say they lose two in
a row, he comes back, you're two and one, You're
still in that thing.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, I want to ask you one last thing about
the Lakers and them getting knocked out. I mean, everybody
and their uncle had them going to the finals.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
They ain't call you. I mean, like it was ridiculous, like, oh, oh,
they going to the fire.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was like, the path is clear, They're gonna breeze
into the okay. But anyway, my point would be about
Luca And we heard JJ Reddick talk about players need
to be in championship shape. I don't know who he
was talking about. I mean, who else was not in
championship shape? But when you look at Luca and and
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obviously he's a talented player and offensively a machine, but
defensively he's a liability and they ran plays at him
time and time again. How do you fix that? If
you're the Lakers? Is that something a player can do?
Can you get into him?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You got not to be a stopper Roy, but to
put some effort on the defensive end.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
That's all I mean in terms.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Of getting in shape. You know, I used to say,
you know, during the summer is the time to like
work extremely hard. And I know Luca plays a lot
of basketball throughout the summer internationally. You know, I initially
when I heard of the places you get in shape,
my automatic feeling was, you know, JJ threw him under
the bus, right, But then like obviously I listened to
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a lot more. I think Brian Windhorst said something where
every level that he's played at he has heard the
same thing from the same coaches over the years. You
need to get in better shape, you need to get
in better shape. But his offense, you know, you know,
transcends all of that. So mistakes can be you know,
a race or they're not looked at. But I'm not sure,
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like you know, you hear about Lebron in his million
dollar mentality in terms of like keeping his body right,
maybe that can. But you can't teach your old dog
new tricks. And I think Dallas kind of saw what
you know everybody else is kind of seeing right now.
But Luke is still going to get you points. Maybe
they can maybe put players around him, like a J.
McDaniels who are long. I think the Timberwolves have some
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of the best, you know, defensive players that are long,
athletic Alexander you know, who can fill in that gap
to help him a little bit more, who can also
get a bucket on the other end. So I don't
think he's gonna get one or two percent. Maybe he
can get one or two percent better on the defensive end,
fighting over screens, not arguing with the refs and getting
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back in transition. But I know I'm as along with
an answer. I'm not sure I asked it, but I
feel like it has to come from him or he's
going to have to be filling the gaps with some other.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
With some other players.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Get a bunch of guys who can that's all they do.
Lady Roy, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Appreciate it. Y'all have a good night.
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Speaker 6 (19:14):
So last night, of course, the big story Steph Curry
goes out with the haftring injury, and the Warriors still
found a way to blow the doors off the Minnesota
Tomboys steal game one there of one to zero in
the series. The big reason why they struggled so much,
Anthony Edwards was over in the first half.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
His energy was low. If you don't believe me, listen
to was coach Chris Finch out of the game.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What is there going to talk about? I mean, they're
the leader of the team and you got to come
out and set the tone. You know in all ways
that that happens. And if it's if your SHOT's not
going like you, you still have to carry the energy,
you know. So I don't think there's if I got
to talk to guys about having the right energy coming
into opening around game, opening the second round game, and
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then you know we're not you know we're not on
the same page.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
So now, guys, this might just seem like a one off.
Everybody has a bad game. We all know that no
matter how.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Good you are.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It was bad in the close out game bad against
the Lakers four eleven from three.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
He didn't play that well here. But here's the problem.
This is quietly a kind of a theme with Addey Edwards.
Remember last year they beat Denver in seven. He has
his chest all puffed up. They felt like they were
the kings of the world, gonna win a championship, and
then they got smoked in the next round by Luka
Doncic and at Man's play really slipped from a series
of series flash forward this year. He doesn't play well
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in Game five against the Lakers, but they got the win.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Nonetheless so much so he did the walk of shame
or the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
However, around Crypto mixing up with the fans, I was
all kinds of great.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Believe he was out there doing that, like he was
talking and smack talking all kinds of Maybe that's when
he got tired.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And then he with the no show in game once.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Here's the question, guys, does ant Man have the mental
or emotional makeup to reach his full potential and become,
you know, the face of the league that everyone talks about.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I believe absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I believe there could be no more perfect young person
to be talking about with this because one of the
things that he does I'll explain what I mean. One
of the things that he does that I love is
he's very forthright. He's very takes accountability, and he'll call
his own team out throughout the season. He even called it, coach,
our offense is terrible right now. Offense is Julius Randall
and me taking a bunch of shots. He said, I
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think he has the makeup. Just look himself in the
mirror and say, dude, I did play like trash and
I'm gonna bounce back the next game. He does not
need seem to be sensitive. He doesn't seem to be
a person who's gonna wallow and sorrow and ohe me,
oh mine, they're mad at me? Doesn't strike me? Is
that as well? Plus you look at an example tells
the story well, when he was going to get drafted,
goes to workout for the Warriors who had the number
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two pick, and Steve curR at the end was like, yo, man,
that was a terrible workout. If you have we had
a number one pick, we wouldn't draft you. He was like, dude,
I'm around KD, I'm around Steph, I'm around Jor. I
played around Jordan. He said, I see this guy's workout.
That was not a great workout. And if he gets
in the car with his trainer, he being Anthony Edwards
and says, hey man, we got to turn it up,
we got to step it up, we gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
He didn't get disrespected. I'm a number one pick.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Who's gonna tell me Anthony Edwards absolutely is gonna bounce
back from this, learn for this to be better. And
what I like about this from Finch's standpoint is that
shows me he has a relationship with Anthony Edwards where
he feels comfortable being able to do that. Phil Jackson
can poking pride as players because he knew that they
trusted him. I can say, Kobe, you're a good young player.
All these dudes don't trust you right now that you
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don't pass the ball. They need you, you need them,
Michael Jordan, I'm the new coach here. Look, man, you
can have just thirty five thirty seven a game and
you keep winning for thirty forty eight games and never
do anything, or we can start to work this system.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
We can start to work this triangle.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's called pay pill out publicly privately, and so I
think certain guys have that relationship with their players, their
star players, that they're able to do that. And I
believe Finch was able to do that to aunt Ant
or receive the message, and I guarantee you he'll like man, Man,
I play like trash. I gotta step it up. I
gotta be better than that in game two. Whether they
win or lose, the point is I think he's the
right guy. They can receive the message, download the message,
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be better, expect better from himself and his teammates, and
be all right with that, because all that I've ever
seen is him be right. He goes at guys guys
can go at him, but he also shows love and
appreciation to the elders and respect the game. To me,
has the right temperament and to lead a franchise. Now
he can stay off the ig models and all that.
That's another conversation for another day. No, it's not so
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it's a part of this. I mean, you're pooh pooing it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
But he does at time seems distracted and that's an issue,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
What you want.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You want someone think you could have good and bad
games like everybody does. But are you really focused in
and centered in on that where people are going to
respect you having a bad game but knowing you're fully there,
you've put in the work. Like there's a difference people
have bad games and they're shooting is off. But we've
(24:04):
seen this drop a few times because I think maybe
he's been fed the idea that he's the next uh
Michael Jordan too quickly, like way premature last year, Like
like people were I get it, you like his energy
and all that kind of stuff in his game. But
but to say Michael Jordan off the bat like that,
I thought that was a lot. It's like the Michael
(24:24):
Parsons Parsons, Lawrence Taylor. You know what I mean, Like
really way premature. Nobody's saying that anymore, uh, because you
just can't look at that comparison. And that's the only
thing I'm saying. I'm not he's a fine player. I'm
not so sure. I think he's distracted by other things.
I think that could be a problem going forward, the
(24:48):
more fame he gets, or the more distractions he gets
or whatever whatever. But but after coming off a series
where everybody counted you out, how could you be a
note show at home in game one?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Don't like that. That's focused.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
The second part of this though, that I don't I
don't think where is addressing is he absolutely came out
the shots aren't falling, right, So the shots aren't falling
if he if he makes five of those eleven, then
we might be, Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He was balling. It just wasn't you know that the
team So it changes the dynamic.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I like that he bounced back the second half and
ended up with twenty three and balled out.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
He at one point a half twenty three. Yeah, but
the game was out of reach. What I'm saying is,
but you find a carryover, No, but where you score.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I'm just I'm just saying it's it's It's like the
guy who in the first six innings doesn't get any hits,
and then the ninth when you're down ten to one,
he gets a three run home run. Like you gotta
like like when the game was in the balance, Okay,
them on the road coming into your building, you're nowhere
to be found. That's that's the part that that's when
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the game was determined, not when you Okay, we talk
about all the time, somebody's got a score in the
second half.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Somebody got to put up point. No, he wasn't gonna
get skunked though, No, But.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I like his mentality. If you watch that second half,
he went in attack mode. He went in I was
playing like trash in first half. And to me, that's
what we talk about when it comes to coaches and
we talk with players. I like adjustments. I was playing
like trash. Let me step it up, let me quit
shooting D threes. And he got in that hole and
he was attacking out a team as a whole didn't
play the best, and again they have an opportunity to
(26:21):
bounce back. But I liked that he was an attack
mom and again, from everything that I've seen from him,
and Edwards is the type of guy that will address it.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I played bad, I'm about to play better. Yo. I
play like trash. I absolutely can be better.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He has that temperament of shake it off, call myself out,
hold myself accountable, and to do better. So to me,
from what I've seen from him, I absolutely have no
worries that he'll be better. He acknowledges he didn't play
the greatest. He said, my defense was good, he said.
He said that after the game on they brought what
Finch said to bottom to him and he talked about
He said, yeah, the shots won't going, but I thought
(26:53):
I was playing good defense. We just didn't play good
as a whole. But he'll bounce back from that. He's
one of those players strictly when it came those things.
I'm not worried about that. We're seeing Kobe Bryant just
so I mean like Bryant.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Idea that you would like put him in the same
breath of Kobe or Michael is just to me way premature.
You can say that now because you saw Kobe's career,
you know what I mean, Like, like I get it.
You see a young player with some potential. But I
do think no, I'm saying, I think we're quick.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
But we are people, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Everybody last year I thought I and I was like, dude,
stop with the Michael Jordan, not just the look, but
this whole idea.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Oh he's the face of the league now and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Everybody had them going to the championship and then they
got their bucks kicked.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's what happened last year. I think, what we do
that all?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Like, I remember, dude, they were trying to crown the
next Michael Jordan so much so that Harold minor baby,
and we're like, hold on, wait, great Hill just got
in the lead.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Oh he's a new face, he's a new Jordan A.
Did you see this?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It happens Oh my gosh, if geez, that a three
point play he's had about that's just at least basket count.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You got to take a free throw and the next
at least I'm sorry, Yeah, you might be good on
his bet. I told you I took ten and a
half point great, great bet.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I tell you what if not even changed such a
Boston mess around, lose this game.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That is ridiculous. All right, where was I?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But back anyway. I was going to use an example.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Remember when Kobe Bryant was mad because his teammates were
terrashed and they were he needed to pass the ball,
and he took one shot. Robbie, you remember that that
whole second half of the playoff game, he was.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Playing hot potato.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
He quit, and he quit on the It was against
the Son exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The Lakers were up three to one in that series.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And he took like I'm exaggerating, fifty shots in Game
six and was criticized.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And so he said, I'm gonna show you what it
looks like when I don't shoot, And he took one
shot the entire second half. And I say that to say,
this is Kobe, who's already won championships, who's already a
proven vet. And my point is he even had a
bad moment, bad outing, frustrated, being a bread that kind
of a thing to prove a point. So I'm saying
these types of things happen even the guys who are
(29:04):
mentally immaniacal about the game, like a Kobe.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So I'm not you know, it happens with kat who'd
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:24):
Harker, Hyves Halliburton obviously just the unbelievable story and the
big shot and now this year, are you ready? Yes,
with two minutes or less to play, he's ten for eleven.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Did you hear what I said?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's with two minutes to play on game winners? Right,
ten for eleven. Not only that, now you need to
make the one last night. He made another one the
week before, right the one his dad went out on
the court and all that.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
So he has two game winners in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And the first thing I thought of, I'm gonna be
honest a lofside from how in the.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
World did they win that game?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
And man, does he have some onions that he's gonna
get fined for because we saw the onion right he
was carrying onions around him for the NBA was not
happy with that. First your dad, and now you got
onions and now we got an issue.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I can deal with the onions, okay, yeah, more so
than this. Those didn't make them cry like that. Those onions.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
No.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But my first thought was, rob g how many years
has Steph Curry played?
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Fifteen years in the NBA? Is it one five fifteen?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And Steph Curry doesn't have one like that in the postseason.
Tyrese Halliburn has had two in the last week. He's
had two in the last week. It's a further indictment
on Steph Curry. You can't give me any excuses. Oh,
(02:09):
the timeframe you have just why is it just in
the final fifty seconds or two minutes or whatever it is.
We're talking about making a clutch shot in a big spot.
You can't give me a Steph Curry basket like that?
(02:30):
How can you play that long, win as much as
Steph Curry's won win championships and not be able to
have that shot that people remember you buy. I don't
care what Tyree's haller Burton does going forward.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
People remember that.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They will people remember moments and when games end like that,
that's what heightens your awarability?
Speaker 4 (02:56):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And people knowing like that guy Robert Rory, nobody could
tell you, But nobody could tell you how many times
he made the All Star team?
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Was her starter? Was he on the bench?
Speaker 3 (03:08):
But everybody who watches basketball knows, Robert or are you
kidding me? That dude was sensational? You better not leave
him open in a big spot. He'll make your pay.
It is an indictment of Steph Curry, that's all. And
I'm not here to like not talk about Halliburton and
(03:30):
what he's been able to do. But it's mind boggling
to me that you could play fifteen years, win four championships,
playing a gazillion playoff games. All right, there was only
a handful of years they didn't make the playoffs. And
you don't have a signature moment. How is that possible?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Kelvin, Rob you know I love you like a play cousin,
But this has gone too far. Steph Curry, Kay, He's
sitting up there trying to heal his hamstring right now,
thinking about his team, how they won.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
For him, how they fought for him.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
They got a good first game win in that series,
minding his own business with the Curry family, and you're
taking a shot at him. He is sitting there trying
to heal this hammy and you're taking shots to him. Boy,
he trying to heal his hammy while you over here
getting eating your ham sandwiches.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
When does it come a little.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Bit later later on? Let me let me say this
with cheese. Steph Curry has four rings. We know all
the MVPs. Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of all time.
I agree it's strange that he doesn't have a moment,
but he has these flurry moments.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Matter of fact, Alex, you were here when we discover
with them.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
At any time he springs up, Steph Curry, you know
what's coming. Find on there a whap babba dooo baba
wap bamboo. Please find that it's on there. Mary already
has it for me. That's what I need to hear
right now. But while Alex is getting that, because he
just got back, I'll say you can't find it. No,
you can find it. When you find it, let me
know so I can make my point. I want to
choose to praise Sareez Halliburton you know why. This is
(05:01):
the second time that he has made a game winning play,
a game winning shot, and the story or the headline
is something else. He beats Milwaukee's sends you on his
home wins one and his pops ruins the situation for him.
So now all we're doing is talking about his pops.
The next time he hits a game winner, we should
be talking about how good he is. Maybe over they
(05:23):
taught him overrated, maybe he's underrated. But then Rob Parker
decides to talk about Steph Curry, who all he does
is this wop.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Baba loo mom blump bum what I'm talking about? No,
he doesn't. He doesn't hit a game winner, but he
hits you with a Florida wap bah blah loo baba
what ba boom, That's what he does. He doesn't we
wanted again, Alex walk bab mom, that's what he does.
So he doesn't have a three two one game winner.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Little Richard is one of the all time greats and
he had It's like Steph Curry not having any hit records.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Little Richard had hit records.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Well, he might be in Againness book for the most
album sold then and and albums of the year also
known as MVPs and dad gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Fin us not digress. I don't want to play. This
is about Steph.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Steph Curry has icy hot on his hamstring right now.
This is about Tyreese Halliburton. His daddy stole his spotlight.
Rob Parker's trying to steal his spotlight. Talking about Steph Curry,
you mentioned ten of eleven with nine seconds left or
under whatever it is, sexual minute, two minutes, two minutes,
he was fourteen percent most overrated.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
They voted him he is on a good air from
now to that. We are gonna get that. He's on
a tear for that other topic that we'll talk about.
And lastly, I say it again.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
They say, the regular season, you become an All Star,
you play good, that's where you make your name. The
playoffs is where you make your fame. And he's been
doing just that. So it shout out to him. Game winners,
got his team up to and let that boy shine
and stop bringing up Steph Curry. Got all these championships,
all these MVPs, and you worried about that.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
I just can't believe it. Every time and time again,
it is unbelievable. Steph Curry the well is dry. There's
nothing there, nothing for those Steph Curry fans to hold
on to and say, oh yeah, I remember when I
got goosebumps because Steph did this or knocked down that shot,
or knocked down this or that.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Nothing zero not all.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
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Speaker 1 (07:38):
He's Rob Im Kelvin on a worship Wednesday, and we
have right now Roy Hebbert, former NBA All Star Center
and of course now doing some NBA calling, our talk,
analyzing some games. Get ready to join us now, Roy,
looking forward to getting your thoughts. So what we've been
saying so far and what I believe has been a
pretty fun playoffs.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
What's happening? Roy?
Speaker 5 (07:58):
Hey, I appreciate you guys having me a big fans,
big fans ready to talk basketball man.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Thank you, Thank you appreciate that a lot, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
I want to ask you this as a big fella.
We were just talking about this yesterday. Twofold question for you, Roy,
how special is Jokids just as far as what you've
seen his unique gifts, his talents. And then I do
want to ask you something I had I brought up yesterday.
What do you think it would have been like if
he had to go uf? You were playing an area
and even a little before you where it had true force,
(08:29):
true fives, meaning you had Ben Wallace, Rashid Wallace. You know,
you had Uh, Dirk Nevinsky and Tyson Chandler and Kendrick
and KG, Tim Duncan, David Robinson where it would have
been a lot harder. I believe Uh to to defend
and also have to defend on the other end.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But what do you make a yo kid Jen? How
would you stop him if you were playing.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Man with Joki? Well, first of all, I love his game,
like the ability to you know, have that and I
would say offwards three from deep, but then to be
able to hit that such a good clip and then
be able to drive to the basket. That's what he's
doing against his OKC team. He's putting a lot of
pressure on the on the front court. You know, Chet Holmgrom,
(09:11):
he had some fouls early, you know, trying to wear
him down. So he's trying to go through his body
as much as possible. But the thing about about Joker
is he had such good complimentary players around them where
he can, you know, make a drive and it he
can just make a behind the back pass to Aaron
Gordon because he's so reliable and you know he's always
in this spot and then you know he just has
(09:32):
such a good feel for the game. But like he
picks people apart and he's been really aggressive with his
matchup in this playoff series.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I think the stat line the other the other day
nobody had ever done in an NBA playoff game, Like,
like Jack, your point about the other centers there is fine,
But the only problem is, like he's taking advantage of
the situation and playing at a level. What do you
have Earlier this year when he had the sixty twenty.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
I mean, Roy, you see those numbers. It's mind boggling,
isn't it It is?
Speaker 5 (10:06):
It is, And you know he had such a good
game and he'll turn the ball over from time to time.
I mean he had seven, but like there's like no
drop in type of play, Like your star player maybe
having a great game, but he may have some turnovers.
Those guys just step up in this play such so well.
I just have to say, Russell Westbrook and Christian Brown,
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they play so well together in the tandem, like on
the fast break as well, put in a lot of pressure.
So I think, you know, Denver, you know they have
championship material on them.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Let's talk about your former team, the Pacers, and I
mean they absolutely just stole the game that they had
no business winning. And I mean, I know the NBA
players voted Halliburn overrated, overrated, but my goodness, he's had
two game winners in ten days in a week.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
I should say, how scary are them?
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Because I think most people in NBA America fell asleep
on the Pacers during the regular season.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Well, I feel like that's just been pretty much how
people feel about the Pacers, you know, throughout my tenure there,
and then you know after I get a lot of
memes about they don't watch us play, but they do
play a good style of basketball where they play with
a lot of pace. Now. Game one, they were really
Chris with their offense and they were able to hit
you know, a lot of threes. Nate Smith played well,
(11:26):
Matt fill played well. But in Game two, early on
they had a lot of fouls. They had a lot
of fouls. They had twenty six files to twenty one.
They had a lot, and they combined that with a
lot of turnovers, and I felt like the Cavs defense
was really honing in on that second unit in terms
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of them hard and McConnell. They had a little turnovers
and that mixed with some misshots put them in a hole.
But the fortitude of that team had to not give
up in that environment, being down twenty and just keep
chipping away says a lot about who they are. And
the last thing I'll say is, you know, a win's
a win in the playoffs, but at the same time,
(12:07):
you have to look back at it after and like, man,
it's good to get this win. But the Calves are down,
you know, three key players and Donald Mitchell had such
a good game and they only beat the Pacers by one,
So that to me is a little thing that I'm
a little worried about. But being able to go back
home to Indiana for the next two games, I still
think the Pacers potentially do it in five.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Do you think this is Roy Hibbert our guest, By
the way, former NBA All Star Center All with the
ot couble, do you think they have what it takes
to finish to close the job? I mean, you mentioned
if you're Cleveland, you're saying, man, we were down a
few stars, we'll be fine. We can get back in
this thing. Do you think they have what it takes
to get on and maybe potentially play at Boston or
New York But it looks like it's gonna be Boston.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
But do they have that?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
I don't know. I think they'll be able to get
past the Cavs. And just to say, just watch Scruce's
post game. He looked, he sounds defeated, and I feel
like maybe the Pacer that that win maybe maybe broke them.
Not sure if they're going to get back now. Now
with the Celtics, I do see some cracks in the
armor potentially, you know, I'm not sure if for Zingis
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is playing right now and what's the issue with him.
But I do see some opportunities with the pace of
which the Pacers play at and they turn whether it's
a live ball turnover or even a mad shot, they
turned it into fast break opportunities. With the Celtics with
a three point shooting percentage, they've been doing if the
Pacers get like two or three fast breaks opportunities, things
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could go their way early.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
How about end of games.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
We've seen teams just cough up games, can't get the
ball in bounds. Don't like I just can't get over it.
When you when you played, aren't those things that you
work on about. You're expecting pressure. They're gonna pressure us
at the end of the game to get the ball
in and you got to figure out is that is
(13:58):
that the way you do it? Roy, where you like,
here's your first option. You got to do this, You
got to do that. Last night, I can't remember who
threw the ball and bounds, but basically throw it to
the other team.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Just threw it to question.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know at the end of games.
You know, when I played, we'd have a situation where
we'd have the blue team versus the white team, and
you know, we need a bucket. You know, we need
to get the ball inbounds to get this one shot.
So we would do this thing over and over and over,
and we'd have certain times where like the blue team
did not let us get that that bucket. So you know,
(14:31):
to see that at the end of the game that
maybe that's just a little bit of execution. Maybe that
player has not been in that situation before where you know,
things get a little tight and you throw it away.
So hopefully that player can learn from that and move on.
But you know, there's a situation situation. I'm not sure
if you guys can remember, but a team was up
three and I think they went to foul. I think
it might have been the Denver.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yeah it was. It was the thunder. They filed, They
filed Denver.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
They fell. They fall too quickly, too quickly, you know.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
So those just like make you scratch your head and
just be like, oh, this play like solid defense. But
you know, I don't know. But you know, they have
a job in coaching in the NBA and I don't.
Speaker 4 (15:09):
So that don't mean you're wrong. I must say. You
know what else you got right? You got eyes? We
all saw it. Yeah, I mean like it ain't rocket side.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
I tell people all the time, you don't have to
have played twenty years in the NBA to look at it.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Go that's a bad that's a bad file to do that. There.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Hey, let's stay I'm gonna go to the Western Conference
real quick. We saw last night Minnesota I don't know
if they came in tired. I don't know if they
were just arrogant thinking, hey, you know where we just
beat h Lebron and Luke and feeling good. What happened
there with Minnesota?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
And uh?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
And what are you making the Warriors ever since they
got Jimmy Butler. Obviously Steph is gonna be out a
week or so, but what do you make of the Warriors?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Man? I feel like the Warriors that have been there,
and obviously it's like trickle down effect in terms of
like how their players play. And obviously with Steph, you know,
potentially being out for a while, obviously that could be
an issue. But I mean they're a tough team. I
don't know if they're gonna win the series, but they're
showing me a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, I think it's gonna be tough without him, but
I think getting that first game was huge rob So
even if they were to say they lose two in
a row, he comes back, you're two and one, You're
still in that thing.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Well, I want to ask you one last thing about
the Lakers and them getting knocked out. I mean, everybody
and their uncle had them going to the finals.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
They ain't call you. I mean, like it was ridiculous, like, oh, oh,
they going to the fire.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
I was like, the path is clear, They're gonna breeze
into the okay. But anyway, my point would be about
Luca And we heard JJ Reddick talk about players need
to be in championship shape. I don't know who he
was talking about. I mean, who else was not in
championship shape? But when you look at Luca and and
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obviously he's a talented player and offensively a machine, but
defensively he's a liability and they ran plays at him
time and time again. How do you fix that? If
you're the Lakers? Is that something a player can do?
Can you get into him?
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You got not to be a stopper Roy, but to
put some effort on the defensive end.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
That's all I mean in terms.
Speaker 5 (17:14):
Of getting in shape. You know, I used to say,
you know, during the summer is the time to like
work extremely hard. And I know Luca plays a lot
of basketball throughout the summer internationally. You know, I initially
when I heard of the places you get in shape,
my automatic feeling was, you know, JJ threw him under
the bus, right, But then like obviously I listened to
(17:35):
a lot more. I think Brian Windhorst said something where
every level that he's played at he has heard the
same thing from the same coaches over the years. You
need to get in better shape, you need to get
in better shape. But his offense, you know, you know,
transcends all of that. So mistakes can be you know,
a race or they're not looked at. But I'm not sure,
(17:58):
like you know, you hear about Lebron in his million
dollar mentality in terms of like keeping his body right,
maybe that can. But you can't teach your old dog
new tricks. And I think Dallas kind of saw what
you know everybody else is kind of seeing right now.
But Luke is still going to get you points. Maybe
they can maybe put players around him, like a J.
McDaniels who are long. I think the Timberwolves have some
(18:19):
of the best, you know, defensive players that are long,
athletic Alexander you know, who can fill in that gap
to help him a little bit more, who can also
get a bucket on the other end. So I don't
think he's gonna get one or two percent. Maybe he
can get one or two percent better on the defensive end,
fighting over screens, not arguing with the refs and getting
(18:40):
back in transition. But I know I'm as along with
an answer. I'm not sure I asked it, but I
feel like it has to come from him or he's
going to have to be filling the gaps with some other.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
With some other players.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Get a bunch of guys who can that's all they do.
Lady Roy, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
I appreciate.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Appreciate it. Y'all have a good night.
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Speaker 6 (19:14):
So last night, of course, the big story Steph Curry
goes out with the haftring injury, and the Warriors still
found a way to blow the doors off the Minnesota
Tomboys steal game one there of one to zero in
the series. The big reason why they struggled so much,
Anthony Edwards was over in the first half.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
His energy was low. If you don't believe me, listen
to was coach Chris Finch out of the game.
Speaker 7 (19:37):
What is there going to talk about? I mean, they're
the leader of the team and you got to come
out and set the tone. You know in all ways
that that happens. And if it's if your SHOT's not
going like you, you still have to carry the energy,
you know. So I don't think there's if I got
to talk to guys about having the right energy coming
into opening around game, opening the second round game, and
(20:00):
then you know we're not you know we're not on
the same page.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
So now, guys, this might just seem like a one off.
Everybody has a bad game. We all know that no
matter how.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Good you are.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
It was bad in the close out game bad against
the Lakers four eleven from three.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
He didn't play that well here. But here's the problem.
This is quietly a kind of a theme with Addey Edwards.
Remember last year they beat Denver in seven. He has
his chest all puffed up. They felt like they were
the kings of the world, gonna win a championship, and
then they got smoked in the next round by Luka
Doncic and at Man's play really slipped from a series
of series flash forward this year. He doesn't play well
(20:36):
in Game five against the Lakers, but they got the win.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Nonetheless so much so he did the walk of shame
or the Walk of Fame.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
However, around Crypto mixing up with the fans, I was
all kinds of great.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Believe he was out there doing that, like he was
talking and smack talking all kinds of Maybe that's when
he got tired.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And then he with the no show in game once.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
Here's the question, guys, does ant Man have the mental
or emotional makeup to reach his full potential and become,
you know, the face of the league that everyone talks about.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
I believe absolutely.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
I believe there could be no more perfect young person
to be talking about with this because one of the
things that he does I'll explain what I mean. One
of the things that he does that I love is
he's very forthright. He's very takes accountability, and he'll call
his own team out throughout the season. He even called it, coach,
our offense is terrible right now. Offense is Julius Randall
and me taking a bunch of shots. He said, I
(21:33):
think he has the makeup. Just look himself in the
mirror and say, dude, I did play like trash and
I'm gonna bounce back the next game. He does not
need seem to be sensitive. He doesn't seem to be
a person who's gonna wallow and sorrow and ohe me,
oh mine, they're mad at me? Doesn't strike me? Is
that as well? Plus you look at an example tells
the story well, when he was going to get drafted,
goes to workout for the Warriors who had the number
(21:54):
two pick, and Steve curR at the end was like, yo, man,
that was a terrible workout. If you have we had
a number one pick, we wouldn't draft you. He was like, dude,
I'm around KD, I'm around Steph, I'm around Jor. I
played around Jordan. He said, I see this guy's workout.
That was not a great workout. And if he gets
in the car with his trainer, he being Anthony Edwards
and says, hey man, we got to turn it up,
we got to step it up, we gotta get better.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
He didn't get disrespected. I'm a number one pick.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Who's gonna tell me Anthony Edwards absolutely is gonna bounce
back from this, learn for this to be better. And
what I like about this from Finch's standpoint is that
shows me he has a relationship with Anthony Edwards where
he feels comfortable being able to do that. Phil Jackson
can poking pride as players because he knew that they
trusted him. I can say, Kobe, you're a good young player.
All these dudes don't trust you right now that you
(22:38):
don't pass the ball. They need you, you need them,
Michael Jordan, I'm the new coach here. Look, man, you
can have just thirty five thirty seven a game and
you keep winning for thirty forty eight games and never
do anything, or we can start to work this system.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
We can start to work this triangle.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
He's called pay pill out publicly privately, and so I
think certain guys have that relationship with their players, their
star players, that they're able to do that. And I
believe Finch was able to do that to aunt Ant
or receive the message, and I guarantee you he'll like man, Man,
I play like trash. I gotta step it up. I
gotta be better than that in game two. Whether they
win or lose, the point is I think he's the
right guy. They can receive the message, download the message,
(23:14):
be better, expect better from himself and his teammates, and
be all right with that, because all that I've ever
seen is him be right. He goes at guys guys
can go at him, but he also shows love and
appreciation to the elders and respect the game. To me,
has the right temperament and to lead a franchise. Now
he can stay off the ig models and all that.
That's another conversation for another day. No, it's not so
(23:34):
it's a part of this. I mean, you're pooh pooing it.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
But he does at time seems distracted and that's an issue,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
What you want.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
You want someone think you could have good and bad
games like everybody does. But are you really focused in
and centered in on that where people are going to
respect you having a bad game but knowing you're fully there,
you've put in the work. Like there's a difference people
have bad games and they're shooting is off. But we've
(24:04):
seen this drop a few times because I think maybe
he's been fed the idea that he's the next uh
Michael Jordan too quickly, like way premature last year, Like
like people were I get it, you like his energy
and all that kind of stuff in his game. But
but to say Michael Jordan off the bat like that,
I thought that was a lot. It's like the Michael
(24:24):
Parsons Parsons, Lawrence Taylor. You know what I mean, Like
really way premature. Nobody's saying that anymore, uh, because you
just can't look at that comparison. And that's the only
thing I'm saying. I'm not he's a fine player. I'm
not so sure. I think he's distracted by other things.
I think that could be a problem going forward, the
(24:48):
more fame he gets, or the more distractions he gets
or whatever whatever. But but after coming off a series
where everybody counted you out, how could you be a
note show at home in game one?
Speaker 4 (25:00):
Don't like that. That's focused.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
The second part of this though, that I don't I
don't think where is addressing is he absolutely came out
the shots aren't falling, right, So the shots aren't falling
if he if he makes five of those eleven, then
we might be, Oh.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
He was balling. It just wasn't you know that the
team So it changes the dynamic.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
I like that he bounced back the second half and
ended up with twenty three and balled out.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
He at one point a half twenty three. Yeah, but
the game was out of reach. What I'm saying is,
but you find a carryover, No, but where you score.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I'm just I'm just saying it's it's It's like the
guy who in the first six innings doesn't get any hits,
and then the ninth when you're down ten to one,
he gets a three run home run. Like you gotta
like like when the game was in the balance, Okay,
them on the road coming into your building, you're nowhere
to be found. That's that's the part that that's when
(25:49):
the game was determined, not when you Okay, we talk
about all the time, somebody's got a score in the
second half.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Somebody got to put up point. No, he wasn't gonna
get skunked though, No, But.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I like his mentality. If you watch that second half,
he went in attack mode. He went in I was
playing like trash in first half. And to me, that's
what we talk about when it comes to coaches and
we talk with players. I like adjustments. I was playing
like trash. Let me step it up, let me quit
shooting D threes. And he got in that hole and
he was attacking out a team as a whole didn't
play the best, and again they have an opportunity to
(26:21):
bounce back. But I liked that he was an attack
mom and again, from everything that I've seen from him,
and Edwards is the type of guy that will address it.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
I played bad, I'm about to play better. Yo. I
play like trash. I absolutely can be better.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
He has that temperament of shake it off, call myself out,
hold myself accountable, and to do better. So to me,
from what I've seen from him, I absolutely have no
worries that he'll be better. He acknowledges he didn't play
the greatest. He said, my defense was good, he said.
He said that after the game on they brought what
Finch said to bottom to him and he talked about
He said, yeah, the shots won't going, but I thought
(26:53):
I was playing good defense. We just didn't play good
as a whole. But he'll bounce back from that. He's
one of those players strictly when it came those things.
I'm not worried about that. We're seeing Kobe Bryant just
so I mean like Bryant.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Idea that you would like put him in the same
breath of Kobe or Michael is just to me way premature.
You can say that now because you saw Kobe's career,
you know what I mean, Like, like I get it.
You see a young player with some potential. But I
do think no, I'm saying, I think we're quick.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
But we are people, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Everybody last year I thought I and I was like, dude,
stop with the Michael Jordan, not just the look, but
this whole idea.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Oh he's the face of the league now and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Everybody had them going to the championship and then they
got their bucks kicked.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
That's what happened last year. I think, what we do
that all?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Like, I remember, dude, they were trying to crown the
next Michael Jordan so much so that Harold minor baby,
and we're like, hold on, wait, great Hill just got
in the lead.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Oh he's a new face, he's a new Jordan A.
Did you see this?
Speaker 1 (27:57):
It happens Oh my gosh, if geez, that a three
point play he's had about that's just at least basket count.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
You got to take a free throw and the next
at least I'm sorry, Yeah, you might be good on
his bet. I told you I took ten and a
half point great, great bet.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I tell you what if not even changed such a
Boston mess around, lose this game.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That is ridiculous. All right, where was I?
Speaker 5 (28:18):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (28:18):
But back anyway. I was going to use an example.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Remember when Kobe Bryant was mad because his teammates were
terrashed and they were he needed to pass the ball,
and he took one shot. Robbie, you remember that that
whole second half of the playoff game, he was.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Playing hot potato.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
He quit, and he quit on the It was against
the Son exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
The Lakers were up three to one in that series.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And he took like I'm exaggerating, fifty shots in Game
six and was criticized.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
And so he said, I'm gonna show you what it
looks like when I don't shoot, And he took one
shot the entire second half. And I say that to say,
this is Kobe, who's already won championships, who's already a
proven vet. And my point is he even had a
bad moment, bad outing, frustrated, being a bread that kind
of a thing to prove a point. So I'm saying
these types of things happen even the guys who are
(29:04):
mentally immaniacal about the game, like a Kobe.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
So I'm not you know, it happens with kat who'd
had a bad one
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