May 8, 2025 • 34 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether it’s fair to question Jayson Tatum’s postseason legacy following two miserable performances in his series against the New York Knicks and argue about LeBron James going out of his way to praise Anthony Edwards after the Minnesota Timberwolves eliminated his Los Angeles Lakers in round one. Plus, actor/singer and Knicks super fan Leon swings by to discuss New York going up 2-0 over the Boston Celtics, his expectations for the rest of the series moving forward, his mild concerns about the Jalen Brunson-centric offense, what makes the NBA Playoffs the best postseason in professional sports and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Celtics find themselves in a precurious spot, dangerous spot.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You fall down, oh two, you lose two games at home.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know there's a lot there to twenty point blowout losses.
And of course the easiest thing to do the same
with this is sports. We always blame the biggest name,
the biggest guy, and we always praise the biggest name
and the biggest guy, no matter what the situation is.
So now everybody in their uncle thinks Jason Tatum can't
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play and he sucks, and this is he thinks and
all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Kelvin Washington, your thoughts, I.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Think you're oversimplified, and I don't think people think he sucks.
I think people absolutely think he's one of the best players.
But there's always been a little bit of apprehension and
maybe giving him his just due and maybe putting him
where he probably believes he should be. Man, I've went
to the Eastern Conference finals a bunch of times. I've
been to a championship of the finals. I got there
and I lost. But now I got there again and
(01:27):
I made it. And it's always been a little bit
of like apprehension with fully giving him maybe the praise
and credit he thinks he deserved. But this is part
of the reason why Rob you just mentioned it. If
he wants this is a compliment to him. This is
a compliment because if you're as if you're not as
good or as great as you think you are, we
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wouldn't be having these conversations.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It give you a great example.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
James Harden is going to be going in the Hall
of Fame first ballot, one of the best players. But yes,
over the last five to ten years, we've all kind
of just thrown in a tollow him when he comes to.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Playoffs, we just have zero the same, the same guy.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
No, So what I'm saying is, Jason Tatum, it's a
compliment that we're still in this place where we have
hope for you when we expect more from you where
we think you're so good to great that we have
to nitpick at you. And one of the things we
can nitpick is and when it comes down to big moments,
when it comes down to the moments where we want
to see him take over, there have been times where he.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Has fallen short.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And I guarantee you if he was sitting here and
it was the Trio Couple, the Trio of Us, he
would admit it and say the same. When you look
at his performance over the last couple of games. You
are supposedly the best player on your team. You're the
man that's gonna happen if Luka doncis performed as poorly
as as he has and it had been up twenty
points twice, Rob not one bad game, everybody has it.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It happens two times, and two games that matter.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Your team was up twenty and you all faltered and
lost the game, and you try to get the last
shot and you can't and you turn the ball over. Yes,
people are going to criticize him, and yes, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Not about criticizing him. That's not the issue or looking
at the game. It's this unpacking of Jason Tatum. Every
time something goes wrong. He didn't take a million threes.
He took five threes yesterday they still missed. And when
you look at that team last time, I was Brown
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the MVP of the finals last year?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Was it Tatum? It was Brown, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Where was he?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Wait a minute, I'm just looking at was the coaching
up to par?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Was other guys involved? My point?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
My point is people want to undress him like he
hasn't accomplished anything and you can't trust him.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, Rob It's the same way you like to undress
Lebron who has done forty five times things more than him,
or Pat Mahomes who has done forty five more things
than him.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He has gotten to me, I've never I've never un
dressed and said Patrick Mahomes championship doesn't mean anything, or
that Lebron's won the four championship don't mean anything. I'm
talking about. I'm talking about people acting like Jason tATu.
Why you can't trust him, can't trust him? He won
a championship last year and guess what he led his team?
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This is him at twenty six, five time All Star,
four time All NBA, three time first team first up
in playoff points before turning twenty seven, first, not second,
not third before turning twenty second, first in playoff win
since being drafted, first in playoff points since being drafted.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And now an NBA champ.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And every time they fall behind or lose a game,
it's Jason Tatum.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Oh, Jason tayl game. Why we can't trust him? Why
that's ridiculous. Yes, it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's dumb. I promise you you've heard a lot dumber.
It absolutely makes sense because every you just listed is
exactly the reason why people have high expectations for him, and.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They don't mind the loss.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You guess no reason, and there's no reason why nobody.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Every time they lose a game, they didn't even lose
the series yet, and people are undressing Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I hope you're I hope you're including yourself and people
because this.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Is what you do. We do after that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'm not you don't.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Don't you get what they've done. I'm not gonna look
at just Jason Tatum. You're gonna look at the Celtics
and they're coaching.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Stop it, Rob, you do this all the time on
the stars of a team. Patrick Mahomes ain't this, No,
Jason Tatum does not. He has a deer in the
head like look that is unavoidable.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Ain't talking about because it shot gout blocked at the
end of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Did you see the basket that put the Celtics up
after he struggled all night?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Did you see that? I saw? And what would you
see that?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I didn't see that. Now let me continue Jason Tatum.
One of the issues, one of the things that I
think would help him is one of the things I
heard LaMarcus Sodgers talk about when he talked about having
conversation with Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant said, a lot of
you younger guys get two or three moves that are
your go to moves. Jason Tatum is a spectacular player,
but you can tell sometimes when he needs a bucket,
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it's difficult for him to get said bucket. He doesn't
necessarily have that thing that he identifies with this is
my go to and you saw it last night. Now again,
he is an absolutely great player, but he is not
above reproach.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
He is not above.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Nobody said that.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Not I said.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Talking about all the time is that they undress him
like he hasn't accomplished anything. I think that's what's unfair
is that nobody believed in them. Even last year when
they went through the playoffs. He wins a championship, they
lose two games.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And now this is.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Why, oh Jason jail, So ask your Jason, why did
people believe in this?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Because people do that for everybody until they win. My
point is he has won. It's just like you and
the Aaron Rodgers thing. People are undressing Aaron Rodgers every
chance they get. They ask like he never won, like
he never was a four time very repeat never.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It'ss ridiculously no, no, no, no, what I'm talking about.
You choose, no, no, no, you choose to let certain people
off the hook. You want to let off the hook
Aaron Rodgers. The reason why people bring since you want
to bring up Aaron Rodgers, is because for all the
greatness and talent that he has, he is not won
enough playing and simple.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
For all the.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Greatness that Aaron Rodgers in amazing, he's the most great
and I agree, one of the best arm talents he's
ever seen. He's one of the best. Well then why
after all these years to compare to his peers. Does
he only have one Super Bowl A title? And that's
a very fair and valid questions or concern.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and the defenses that Aaron Rodgers don't even let
it go.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Did we talk about it all the time?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Tom Brady never won without a top five defense. Goa
show me the year Aaron Rodgers had a top five
defense at all. Tow me the draft that they drafted
skilled positions in the first round during.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
His career in Green Bay. I can go on and on.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm not excuses, and my only time it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Is stop with the Jason Tatum stinks because I'm saying
that's where a lot of people today woke up and
that was their easy place to go rather than taking
a look at the coach, the other players who misshots.
He didn't put up thirteen shots and go oh for
thirteen for three.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And he only rob Let me say this another thing
I think you're missing. It's not about missshots literally, Michael Jordan,
Larry Bird, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant. It doesn't matter the
persons misshots. What people want to see and feel is
that you're all in, that you're diving on the floor.
If that's what it takes today, the shot ain't falling.
I'm seven for twenty two in Game seven in the finals, Kobe, right,
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let me go snatch twenty two rebounds, let me go
lock somebody up, let me push somebody on the floor
and tell my team let's go. You know, And it's
and it's those types of things that that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the bottom line is it's all about winning. Because
if he made that shot yesterday, okay, instead of having
it blocked at the end, you wouldn't be bringing that
up totally.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You wouldn't be, No, it would It would be about winning.
It's about winning and moving on.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is not about winning when you're talking about greatness
and the differentiators between greatness, right, about winning.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's about winning. Winning covers up everything.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
No, that's not true when you're talking about No guys, Nobody.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Says Kobe can't play because he didn't make the playoffs
his last six years. Nobody says Kobe can't play when
he quit on the team against the Suns.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Nobody man, And we absolutely about that. That's exactly my point.
We criticize about that, Yo, Kobe, that was childish.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Kobe.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're better than that you're supposed to be the veteran
on his team. Why would people say he's the gold
and he quit on his team? Nobody ever, he says
that as just like people should. And I'm Lebron's biggest fan,
you know that, and it absolutely should criticize Lebron about
how he showed up against the final boy mass, it happens.
And for Jason Tatum to be the best player on
that team, who has quoted himself as wanting to be
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a Finals MVP, these are the types of games he
has to win.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Just last year he let in every category and didn't
get the MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I got it right last year and every category for
his team, every one.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Well, then Lebron should be the Finals MVP of the year.
Twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They lost.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
If we're going by that just by leading stats, nobody
who loses.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That goes back to my seventies. It's never happened. That's
not lou I said.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That goes back to the seventies. Nobody does that.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And my point is if we're going by just simply.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
One last year and led in every caddy and you're
and nobody could literally can't debate that. But if he
wants to be in the pantheons of where he is
trying to get to, then these are the types of
conversations that he needs to be had. And these are
the types of UH issues people can have with them.
If you're starting to get to the great list, we
have to nitpick at you, Steph Curry, lebron Kdi, this
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is what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
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Speaker 9 (11:21):
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them in round one and before the Wolves lost game
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won the Warriors. To just keep that in context, everybody
says wolves differently. Do you have no Nmber Wolves? Shout
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Speaker 1 (11:48):
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point out every word that Rob says.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
What talk, yeah, wosalk Yeah. I didn't know there was
a WU see you later. What oh god, gawd oh.
But any event, do I sound like that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
You do, Yes you do.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
During the latest episode, obviously, the focus was on the
Lakers getting eliminated a round one by the Timberwolves, and
during the conversation, Steve Nash brought up the viral clip
of Lebron James dapping up at the Edwards African eliminated saying, hey,
go ahead and take the next step. Here's Lebron explaining
what he meant by that conversation for.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Me to just like, you know, telling her to take
the next step. Like, you know, it doesn't always mean okay,
well Western Conference finals and now you've got to be
in the finals. It's like, take the next step and
just you as a person, you as a player, continue
to get better, better and better. You know, your time's
gonna come whatever. I can't decide what that's going to be.
Sometimes we have no control over when that next step
as far as being you know, going to the finals
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and winning.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
You know, we're not always have.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
The opportunity to do that, but like we do have
control over make in the next step in our own
individual journey, you know. And I think that's that's what
it was about, because I love seeing that man. I
love seeing you know. I love seeing Jacy Tatum take
that next step.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
I love seeing you know, you know Nazi and you
know taking that next step. It's just it's a problem,
problem feeling for me, you know, as a player, been
in the league for so long.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Lakers get eliminated, and he's glad handing everybody and saying,
thanks for kicking out butts, thanks for beating us in five.
I'm glad you're moving on. I mean, come on, really,
it's h Is this Lebron trying to take credit like
like he made ant Man and then and I'm sending
my young pup out to go get uh to go
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find his own food. Is that what it is? Cause
I don't know how it would feel. There's no way
after everybody big ja up. You talked about the Lakers.
Oh they're going to the finals. There's no paths. Oh
my god, you got two NBA grades. How are you
not gonna get there? You know, look at the look
at the landscape. Here's another chance. Lebron's gonna win another championship. Now,
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what will they say he's got five? He just one
with Luca and instead it's Aunt Yeah, man, go ahead,
awesome man, I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Go do your thing, you go win a championship. Is
that where we are?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I know, Kelvin people thinking this is where we are
with these guys taking a trading jersey to get beat
down by forty and glad handing everybody. I'm not saying
I have to attack you or be nasty to you,
but there is a separation when we're playing and win.
If I see you in the off season, That's why
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I love Janna so much. I'm serious. Giannis is like,
I'm not having that. I'm not going on vacation with you.
I'm not working out with you. I'm competing against you.
And ant taking the next step means that Lebron took
a step back, applauding you taking a step back. Lebron
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in them weren't the underdogs in the series, they were
the favorites. They got their lunch handed to him. How
does that feel good to see ant Man go forward
when everybody in their uncle not only had you winning
that series, but going to the finals, a lot of
people did, oh wow, they got a free paths. Oh
(15:24):
my god, they got Luca fell on their lap. Now
look they got Austin Reeves.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He's a big.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Three who You're not gonna take those three guys?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Am I exaggerating? Or note that's what we heard, Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I hear you, but I think again, Historically speaking, we
always have the big dogs show the little dogs some love.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Hey, I love to see what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I love to see he's covered up next, he's got next, yo,
I've been mentoring him. Are I love to see these
guys try to come and take the mantle.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
To me, that's just acknowledgement of where you are. Dude.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's forty what about to be forty one this year,
acknowledging that literally this could be the end next year.
And having a relationship with an they just went through
the Olympics together. Anthony Edwards is the guy who comes
in and says, you're my guy. I think you're the best,
but I want to bust your head. Kevin Durant, You're
my favorite player growing up. I can't wait to bust
your head. Lebron I think you're one of the best
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players ever. I can't wait to get your butt out
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You and Luca.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
This is what he's built up, and he's built that
relationship and that respect, and it kind of reminds me
of Kobe Bryant in a relationship he had with Kyrie.
Kyrie was an annoying little nineteen twenty one year old
wanting to play him.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
At the Olympic.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Come on, man, settled down, man, you you come on, man,
play out. I play in one oh one. And Kobe
has such respect for him. Kobe was known for showing
Russ and KD and those guys so much love and praise,
and I think that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He got eliminated by him.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Especially when there's such a gap in the age, like dude,
I'm looking at this next generation. And also when you've
been in the face of the league, you love to
see the fact that the league will be in good
hands when you view it as a no.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Not thinking about that when you're trying to get to
six championship.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Lebron Lebron James has through the duration of his career,
always thought about the league, and you know that he
is It is a.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
League in a better place when Jordan left it compared
to where Lebron has it.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I don't know he left at ninety.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, just asking you, where's the league as far as
is it in a better place than where Michael Jordan
left it?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I don't see the relevance. I mean, I'm just asking you.
I don't think ratings wise, it is.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In the style of play, no, I don't think that's
indigative Lebron. I think Lebron is done, for the most part,
what he's been asked to do. Be a states bothsmen
and statesmen speak up, do this show up there. I mean,
he's done most of mostly everything for twenty plus years.
So I don't have a problem with him showing love
in a podcast to a young person who has shown
love to him, respect to him. They battled against each other.
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I don't think it's an issue to me.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Looking like in the podcast, it was on the court
after the game, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's what the viral clip was.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, the clip was him saying take that next step,
Like I don't, that's just him. Do you see that
all the time with Peyton Manning loses to some young
bid the game.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Man, keep doing your thing. I love what you're doing. Man,
keep growing.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But Aaron Rodgers loses to some young puppy does it
all the time. Hey, man, love what you're doing. Keep going, man,
the game needs you. You're doing great.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That's no big deal. When when Larry Bird.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Got sixty three on his head put up against Michael Jordan, man,
remember that and he said that wasn't Michael Jordan series,
that was God disguise he did. But to call another
man God. But I'm saying God, this guy that's crazy.
Didn't lose the series though. But my point is the
expectation for the Lakers was bigger. I would have been
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I'm just giving you. I would have been pissed. I
would have been twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I would have been I would know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I would have been no, because the expectations weren't about
him at twenty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's just like I tell you all the time, people
who with the Lions, you could.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Say whatever you want. Oh, their defense was banged up,
all up.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
No, they were nine and a half point favorites at
home again Washington.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
They were expected to win the game.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So you could go ahead and until jayde and Daniels
Man go ahead, yeah, Man, go ahead, yeah, and you
may never get to the super Bowl, never have that opportunity.
Why would you be dapping up a guy and feeling
good in no situation. The Lions are looking for their
first ever Lebron got.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
He's played year. He's chasing Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Chasing Jordan because nobody's gonna let him get Jordan. Anyway,
he ain't chasing Jordan at this point. He's just trying
to He's trying to get to six.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So trying to make an argument he wants six more
than anything.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Listen, Mike, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Run six championships because it's one more than Kobe. He
had six, that's what he wants.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well, I don't even think he I think he wants
won more. I don't think he knows he can't get
the six. That ain't happening.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Why he's gonna play four more years for Bryce?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, Well, let's Rob Polenka is about to do some crazy,
crazy moves this offseason.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
That ain't happening.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Maybe they go crazy enough to get one more, but
that's asking a lot for him to get to six.
And even if he did get to six, he'll be
what six and six or something, so people will say
that mattered lebron Jordan was six and oh, so that's
he's never gonna be able to for those who think
Jordan is better, He's never gonna be able to be
better for them.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So that's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
For the bronze sexuals, it'll be hey, he has six rings,
that's all they care about him.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Him showing love to the young one would be the
same as you being hey man, it's his young pup
coming up reporter sports.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Broad No, it ain't God, No, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Going to mean.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think he's told him to keep doing this thing.
Matter of fact, our entire station is a bunch of people.
You put on, Rob what you got to say to that? No,
but that ain't mean everybody. Hey, you know, Hey, I
like this kid he's doing. He's up next, put him on,
give him a chance. Hey, I love to see his work, ethic,
He's good. That's what you're doing right now, conversation. You're
showing love to who's up next.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Just like I told you with Giannis.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's a reason Yiannis doesn't do that, and it's just
the way that people are cut that's all I'm saying.
And they're not looking to try to take credit for
somebody yells or try to try to hitch their wagon
to the ant man to say like, oh, yeah, you
know the young guy, I want them to go. Dude, No,
we're not after I lose. If I see you on
vacation or see you down the road at some point
(21:13):
and we have that conversation, that's cool. Yo. You know,
I'm not saying to disrespect him or not saying anything
after you lose, But I'm not trying to tell a
guy to take the next step and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Literally like fifteen sixteen years older than him, like absolutely,
that's his response.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're still playing, they're still playing against each other. Are
they competition?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So we shouldn't have want to win anyways, that what
you're telling me, because you know, the kid.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Is seen saying, young, realize who you are, where you
are in this thing, knowing this is coming down to
the very very end. And this dude has another seven
eight to fifteen years in and so you're showing for something.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
You're showing them young fellow. I see what you're doing.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Keep growing the game. That's just really love and respect
for the game. One of the game to stay at
a high, an elevated level. That's what you're getting. So
we don't have to come on here and an eye
couple yell at these young guys because they're not stepping
the game up, they're not playing hard, they're not respecting
the game, because that's exactly what we be doing, as
we were doing several years ago when we didn't feel
like that young crop was taking it seriously. So Lebron
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is trying to continue to grow these guys, help be
there so that the game keeps evolving and Edwards look
like he can be one of those guys who elevates
the game.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Age seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Rob got all
the mentee A seven seven to be a mentor, you
got Seventyes.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I just it's not the same as apples and oranges.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I was just saying.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
Rob's like, hey, you can get any job in the country,
just not mine.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
What that's what.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
That's what Lebron just say, I'm glad you're winning. Just
beat everybody else.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You're not trying to beat me exactly like I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
No, But key point is you're already out.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
No, I'm saying he's out of the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, but the point is you beat me to get
to your next step. I'm you were the favorite, the
the Lakers were the favorites.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
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Speaker 4 (23:13):
Welcome to The Odd Couple once again, our man Leon, actor,
singer and Nick superfan who is probably on a super
high right now with the way his team is up
a couple of games on the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Leon, what's up?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Man? What's up?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Leon?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Oh? Yes, oh yes, Orange, and guys, you all know
about it right now. But I am a common sense negro, okay,
So I'm realistic about it. We've won two games by
total of two points, so it ain't like we're blowing
people out. So and plus going down by twenty for
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three quarters is not a recipe to win games.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right Well, Well, I mean we'll say this, Leon, And
you know you've been on before with Chris and I
and the most of the time it wasn't It was
always bad news for you and things weren't gonna work
out exactly. But I'm not mad at Nick fans for
being thrilled when you win kind of thrilling games, despite
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what the Celtics have done, which is self destruct of
all the stuff you've seen. How shocking is it just
to see the Celtics miss that many threes?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
You know, it's not really that shocking to me because
if you you know, there's a whole saying you live
by the three, you die by the three. And it's
also not shocking to me because the Celtics have blown
big leads all seasons, and they've also lost games at
home all season more than they've lost on the road.
So the real thing is what's going to happen in
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the gardens, because now we have control, and that's the
biggest thing that's going to happen. How we gonna what
are we going to do in the garden? Are we
gonna hold home court or at least get one of them?
Because we do that, we are right the knicks of
five and zero in the playoffs on the roads. So
they've proven they can win.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
On the road.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, Now they just got to take care of business
at home. As you mentioned, they've been in some tight
games all postseason. Feels like they played against the Pistons
and it was nip and tuck most of those games,
and obviously they've had to come back against the Celtics.
Just tell me what you think of Jalen Bronson and
him mister clutch of the Year, and what he's meant
to this team, in that franchise, in that city.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
It's amazing. It's amazing, you know, it's a great We
haven't had a captain in ten years. Now we have
a captain of the team. He's a great leader. I'm
really happy, to be honest with you, though I'm a
little concerned towards the end of the game. They's handling
the ball way too much. I don't believe he should
be dribbling twenty seconds out of twenty four o'clock. I mean,
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I'd like to see Thibodeau and saw some more plays.
Why he is not running kick and roll with cats
almost every time he comes down. I don't understand. Both
can pop outside, both can roll. But I see him,
I see kat Will set a pick and sending rolling
to the bucket. He just stays outside.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, I don't it seems like real quick role. I
was gonna say one thing I was gonna say about
their dynamic. It kind of seems like they can't both
get off at the same time. It seems like Brunson
is having a great game or like this most recent one,
he finished well, but he didn't play great, but then
Kat played well. It's like they haven't been able to
kind of do it at the same time.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Leon, have you noticed that.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
No, but they know, But no, But that's not true.
During the season, they both were doing at the same
I'm saying that was why to do a both All stars.
You know, they both averaged over twenty five points a
game during the season. They were a great duo. But
it's now in the playoffs is when you really got
to make sure you maximize on that. And that's what
I want to see happen. We got two All Stars
on this team and they needed to play like all stars.
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And I also put this on Brunson and I put
this on Thibodeaux that first game. Yo, Kat can't shoot
nine shots in a game. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Absolutely, you're you're not trying to win with that that
kind of numbers or output. I don't want to rain
on your parade, but I do have to bring this
up because you're a baller and a basketball player.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Ship.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
But the Mitchell Robinson free throw? What was that?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That might have been the worst You want to talk
about the worst free throw I ever saw.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't even know what that was.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
It wasn't really a free throw. I thought he was
passing to the fans.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I thought he was throwing it back to the ref.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Leon When you saw that, did you go like, cause
you should here Reggie Miller on the broadcast were.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Like, oh no, and and and uh Kevin Hall, and did.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
You see did you see Robinson's face? He put his
head down.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I mean, you know, like I've seen people miss free
throws or whatever. They've been some bad free throw shoot,
but that might have been the worst one I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, I just I really understand anyone makes it to
this level and you can't shoot free throws, and you
can't even shoot take a shot. I've never seen him
take a shot, not even in the layup.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Lind that's crazy, that's actually funny. Twelve foot there.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
So what I'm saying is that I've never understood how
you can get to this level. Right right, I have
at least one go to move, like what are you
doing in the gym? One go to move, a little
jump hook, a little fade something.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
When I see guys make it up and they don't
have a shot or they can't be offensively, they're just
it's like, how did you make it all the way
through all the ranks and not get there? All right,
here's a bigger question for you. Will you be at
game three? And are you paying?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Fifty four thousand?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I've seen the tickets, fifty four thousand the cheapest, or
three thousand or six hundred for nose bleeds.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Where are you going to be in a building?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Okay? Now, those you've ever watching Nick games? But if
you have, you've seen me sitting court side. I've seen you, okay,
And that is the reason why I continually work as
an actor to make movies and TVs. Know that people
love so they invite me to sit at the game.
Thank you very much. Okay, when I'm in the building.
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You know I'm in the building, all.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, I'm asking you, are you going to be in
the building verb game three?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
The only reason I won't be in the building for
game three is because I'm in the road with my
band right now and I'm trying to make sure my
flight gets in on time. They're really messing me up
with this three thirty nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Right, Why is that why?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, we were talking about it yesterday, were.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Thirty like that should be a primetime game. I know,
it's Uh, what is that because of the West Coast
games or whatever? What is the reason that Nixon and
Celtics are playing in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I don't know. Maybe they want the kids to come
have hot dogs. I don't know. I can't figure it out.
I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That should be a nighttime game. I'm shocked that that's
a three thirty star.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
It's amazing. Let me tell you that I just posted
the other day, and because I've been saying this for years,
the NBA Playoffs is the best series on TV, and
it's been for years. These games, when it gets the
playoff level, are just intriguing on the watch down to
the wire, and a lot of it is because the
referees are letting the guys play.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I agree with that well, but there were a lot
of blowouts in the first round two.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I mean, that's not you enjoy all the the.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Oh okay, eight minute Leon Leon Leon?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Did you watch okay see win by forty three last night?
It wasn't last month, it was last night. Every game's
not nipping talk. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You watch Listen, No, okay, can't we unfair? Can we
agree that eight or seven out of ten?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Okay, I'm not saying there's been some really good games.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Listen. If there's two games or three games in the
night and two of them are great or one of
them is great out of two, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, I'm just saying, it's just funny you saying that
after that disgusting game yesterday that I mean that.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
That game was over before it started. Yeah, that game
that was that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
So so so let me get here.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So that's up to all m hmm. They have to
win this series, don't they.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Uh well, no one would think.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But you know, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not one
with think.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I'm asking you, as a Knick fan, you're if anything
other than winning this series is a total disaster of
the season.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I don't know what I wouldn't say as a disaster
of the season, but close to give me tell you why,
let me tell you, let me tell you why it hurts.
It hurts because we have not been able to get
past the second round for the last three years. That's
where it's really gonna hurt. And it's gonna hurt because
it's Boston. See if you have to tell us that.
If you're from New York, right, and you ask if
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the Knicks, if the Knicks, what do you want the
Knicks to do? You want the Knicks to win the championship.
If the Knicks don't want to win the championship, what's
the second best thing? Well, the second best thing to
New Yorker is to beat Boston.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I get that. I mean I'm from Jamaica, Queen, so
I get that whole thing. But my point is, once
your team exceeds the expectation, which is going to Boston
and winning two games on the road, if you don't
look at this series and say the Knicks can't, if
the Celtics come back and win four out of the
next five and they advance and beat you, you have
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lost a golden opportunity and you have choked.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Is what you have done.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm sorry, because all you're gonna do is win one
of the next two games and you're in the driver's seat.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Yeah, you know, let me tell you each other. I
agree with you, except for the choke part, because.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Let's be honest, that wouldn't be a choke.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
No, because the champs could actually start playing like the
champs and that could be a problem. They You got
to realize they twenty five or one hundred from the
three point line.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm five.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
At some point the numbers are gonna start. Yeah, but the.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Knicks haven't played great either, Like go look at the numbers.
Jalen Brunson was six for nineteen. He can play better,
like there are other guys. Kelt Bridges didn't have a
point for the first three quarters, you know, like they
can improve and play better.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
We were down twenty three quarters, so you know, we
ain't playing good. But one thing I have to say,
and this is what I love. We are playing good
when he counts. Now, you guys, when the game is
tied and it's either way, we do what we have
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to do.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
You did think did that real quick?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It don't sound confident that this year?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
He did. For a minute, then it changed.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
No, what's changed with Leon? You're not?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
No, No, no, I'm very no. Listen, I'm very confident.
But like I started off the show saying, I'm a
common sense negro, Okay, okay, okay, So you know I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be confident, but I'm not gonna
be over confident.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
All right? I respect it. Lee, real quick, before you go,
get real quick. We got about a less than a minute.
You played in so many classic movies, so many that
are staples, especially with black folks. Let me ask you this,
Serious Temptations or the Five Heartbeats? Which one do you
say people bring up to you the most. Which one
is the one people have questions, they stop you about,
they ask you what they talk to you about?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Wow? Wow, Wow. I would say I would say the
Temptations one because it's more recent than it plays more
but also because of that line that I said, ain't
nobody you know, you know, like if if I don't
hear that every day of my life, I must be dead.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well let's make sure you hear it today. Ain't nobody
trying to see you, ois, But that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Like if you can have a line where people, I
know it's annoying, but it's great that you that that
sticks with people for sure.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Well, yeah, that's why, that's that's why I went to
the problem of trademarketing. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
There you go, smart smart man, smart man for sure. Leon,
We appreciate and talk to you again.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I appreciate you guys too, Nick go Nick,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The Celtics find themselves in a precurious spot, dangerous spot.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You fall down, oh two, you lose two games at home.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know there's a lot there to twenty point blowout losses.
And of course the easiest thing to do the same
with this is sports. We always blame the biggest name,
the biggest guy, and we always praise the biggest name
and the biggest guy, no matter what the situation is.
So now everybody in their uncle thinks Jason Tatum can't
(00:58):
play and he sucks, and this is he thinks and
all that other stuff.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Kelvin Washington, your thoughts, I.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Think you're oversimplified, and I don't think people think he sucks.
I think people absolutely think he's one of the best players.
But there's always been a little bit of apprehension and
maybe giving him his just due and maybe putting him
where he probably believes he should be. Man, I've went
to the Eastern Conference finals a bunch of times. I've
been to a championship of the finals. I got there
and I lost. But now I got there again and
(01:27):
I made it. And it's always been a little bit
of like apprehension with fully giving him maybe the praise
and credit he thinks he deserved. But this is part
of the reason why Rob you just mentioned it. If
he wants this is a compliment to him. This is
a compliment because if you're as if you're not as
good or as great as you think you are, we
(01:48):
wouldn't be having these conversations.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
It give you a great example.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
James Harden is going to be going in the Hall
of Fame first ballot, one of the best players. But yes,
over the last five to ten years, we've all kind
of just thrown in a tollow him when he comes to.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Playoffs, we just have zero the same, the same guy.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
No, So what I'm saying is, Jason Tatum, it's a
compliment that we're still in this place where we have
hope for you when we expect more from you where
we think you're so good to great that we have
to nitpick at you. And one of the things we
can nitpick is and when it comes down to big moments,
when it comes down to the moments where we want
to see him take over, there have been times where he.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Has fallen short.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
And I guarantee you if he was sitting here and
it was the Trio Couple, the Trio of Us, he
would admit it and say the same. When you look
at his performance over the last couple of games. You
are supposedly the best player on your team. You're the
man that's gonna happen if Luka doncis performed as poorly
as as he has and it had been up twenty
points twice, Rob not one bad game, everybody has it.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It happens two times, and two games that matter.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Your team was up twenty and you all faltered and
lost the game, and you try to get the last
shot and you can't and you turn the ball over. Yes,
people are going to criticize him, and yes, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Not about criticizing him. That's not the issue or looking
at the game. It's this unpacking of Jason Tatum. Every
time something goes wrong. He didn't take a million threes.
He took five threes yesterday they still missed. And when
you look at that team last time, I was Brown
(03:22):
the MVP of the finals last year?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Was it Tatum? It was Brown, wasn't it?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Where was he?
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Wait a minute, I'm just looking at was the coaching
up to par?
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Was other guys involved? My point?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
My point is people want to undress him like he
hasn't accomplished anything and you can't trust him.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
No, Rob It's the same way you like to undress
Lebron who has done forty five times things more than him,
or Pat Mahomes who has done forty five more things
than him.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
He has gotten to me, I've never I've never un
dressed and said Patrick Mahomes championship doesn't mean anything, or
that Lebron's won the four championship don't mean anything. I'm
talking about. I'm talking about people acting like Jason tATu.
Why you can't trust him, can't trust him? He won
a championship last year and guess what he led his team?
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This is him at twenty six, five time All Star,
four time All NBA, three time first team first up
in playoff points before turning twenty seven, first, not second,
not third before turning twenty second, first in playoff win
since being drafted, first in playoff points since being drafted.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
And now an NBA champ.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And every time they fall behind or lose a game,
it's Jason Tatum.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Oh, Jason tayl game. Why we can't trust him? Why
that's ridiculous. Yes, it is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
It's dumb. I promise you you've heard a lot dumber.
It absolutely makes sense because every you just listed is
exactly the reason why people have high expectations for him, and.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
They don't mind the loss.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
You guess no reason, and there's no reason why nobody.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Every time they lose a game, they didn't even lose
the series yet, and people are undressing Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I hope you're I hope you're including yourself and people
because this.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
Is what you do. We do after that.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I'm not you don't.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Don't you get what they've done. I'm not gonna look
at just Jason Tatum. You're gonna look at the Celtics
and they're coaching.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Stop it, Rob, you do this all the time on
the stars of a team. Patrick Mahomes ain't this, No,
Jason Tatum does not. He has a deer in the
head like look that is unavoidable.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Ain't talking about because it shot gout blocked at the
end of the game.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Did you see the basket that put the Celtics up
after he struggled all night?
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Did you see that? I saw? And what would you
see that?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:00):
I saw that.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I didn't see that. Now let me continue Jason Tatum.
One of the issues, one of the things that I
think would help him is one of the things I
heard LaMarcus Sodgers talk about when he talked about having
conversation with Kobe Bryant. Kobe Bryant said, a lot of
you younger guys get two or three moves that are
your go to moves. Jason Tatum is a spectacular player,
but you can tell sometimes when he needs a bucket,
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it's difficult for him to get said bucket. He doesn't
necessarily have that thing that he identifies with this is
my go to and you saw it last night. Now again,
he is an absolutely great player, but he is not
above reproach.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
He is not above.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Nobody said that.
Speaker 8 (06:38):
Not I said.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Talking about all the time is that they undress him
like he hasn't accomplished anything. I think that's what's unfair
is that nobody believed in them. Even last year when
they went through the playoffs. He wins a championship, they
lose two games.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And now this is.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Why, oh Jason jail, So ask your Jason, why did
people believe in this?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Because people do that for everybody until they win. My
point is he has won. It's just like you and
the Aaron Rodgers thing. People are undressing Aaron Rodgers every
chance they get. They ask like he never won, like
he never was a four time very repeat never.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
It'ss ridiculously no, no, no, no, what I'm talking about.
You choose, no, no, no, you choose to let certain people
off the hook. You want to let off the hook
Aaron Rodgers. The reason why people bring since you want
to bring up Aaron Rodgers, is because for all the
greatness and talent that he has, he is not won
enough playing and simple.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
For all the.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Greatness that Aaron Rodgers in amazing, he's the most great
and I agree, one of the best arm talents he's
ever seen. He's one of the best. Well then why
after all these years to compare to his peers. Does
he only have one Super Bowl A title? And that's
a very fair and valid questions or concern.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, and the defenses that Aaron Rodgers don't even let
it go.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Did we talk about it all the time?
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Tom Brady never won without a top five defense. Goa
show me the year Aaron Rodgers had a top five
defense at all. Tow me the draft that they drafted
skilled positions in the first round during.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
His career in Green Bay. I can go on and on.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I'm not excuses, and my only time it.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Is stop with the Jason Tatum stinks because I'm saying
that's where a lot of people today woke up and
that was their easy place to go rather than taking
a look at the coach, the other players who misshots.
He didn't put up thirteen shots and go oh for
thirteen for three.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And he only rob Let me say this another thing
I think you're missing. It's not about missshots literally, Michael Jordan,
Larry Bird, Lebron James, Kobe Bryant. It doesn't matter the
persons misshots. What people want to see and feel is
that you're all in, that you're diving on the floor.
If that's what it takes today, the shot ain't falling.
I'm seven for twenty two in Game seven in the finals, Kobe, right,
(09:00):
let me go snatch twenty two rebounds, let me go
lock somebody up, let me push somebody on the floor
and tell my team let's go. You know, And it's
and it's those types of things that that's what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
But the bottom line is it's all about winning. Because
if he made that shot yesterday, okay, instead of having
it blocked at the end, you wouldn't be bringing that
up totally.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
You wouldn't be, No, it would It would be about winning.
It's about winning and moving on.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
It is not about winning when you're talking about greatness
and the differentiators between greatness, right, about winning.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
It's about winning. Winning covers up everything.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
No, that's not true when you're talking about No guys, Nobody.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Says Kobe can't play because he didn't make the playoffs
his last six years. Nobody says Kobe can't play when
he quit on the team against the Suns.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Nobody man, And we absolutely about that. That's exactly my point.
We criticize about that, Yo, Kobe, that was childish.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
Kobe.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're better than that you're supposed to be the veteran
on his team. Why would people say he's the gold
and he quit on his team? Nobody ever, he says
that as just like people should. And I'm Lebron's biggest fan,
you know that, and it absolutely should criticize Lebron about
how he showed up against the final boy mass, it happens.
And for Jason Tatum to be the best player on
that team, who has quoted himself as wanting to be
(10:19):
a Finals MVP, these are the types of games he
has to win.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Just last year he let in every category and didn't
get the MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I got it right last year and every category for
his team, every one.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Well, then Lebron should be the Finals MVP of the year.
Twenty fifteen.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
They lost.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
If we're going by that just by leading stats, nobody
who loses.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
That goes back to my seventies. It's never happened. That's
not lou I said.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
That goes back to the seventies. Nobody does that.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
And my point is if we're going by just simply.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
One last year and led in every caddy and you're
and nobody could literally can't debate that. But if he
wants to be in the pantheons of where he is
trying to get to, then these are the types of
conversations that he needs to be had. And these are
the types of UH issues people can have with them.
If you're starting to get to the great list, we
have to nitpick at you, Steph Curry, lebron Kdi, this
(11:08):
is what happens.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington week days at seven
pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 9 (11:21):
Because even after they were eliminated in Round one by
the minnesot Timberwolves so much so he was so hurt
he couldn't even go to the met Gala with touches,
but Buddy could go to the park. When do you
do the podcast from home? Shout out to lebron content
is King did the podcast in between the Wolves eliminating
them in round one and before the Wolves lost game
(11:43):
won the Warriors. To just keep that in context, everybody
says wolves differently. Do you have no Nmber Wolves? Shout
out to Monts.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's Monty MONSEYNT Chris, I can't wait and Thomas Our
point out every word that Rob says.
Speaker 9 (11:55):
What talk, yeah, wosalk Yeah. I didn't know there was
a WU see you later. What oh god, gawd oh.
But any event, do I sound like that?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (12:12):
You do, Yes you do.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
During the latest episode, obviously, the focus was on the
Lakers getting eliminated a round one by the Timberwolves, and
during the conversation, Steve Nash brought up the viral clip
of Lebron James dapping up at the Edwards African eliminated saying, hey,
go ahead and take the next step. Here's Lebron explaining
what he meant by that conversation for.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
Me to just like, you know, telling her to take
the next step. Like, you know, it doesn't always mean okay,
well Western Conference finals and now you've got to be
in the finals. It's like, take the next step and
just you as a person, you as a player, continue
to get better, better and better. You know, your time's
gonna come whatever. I can't decide what that's going to be.
Sometimes we have no control over when that next step
as far as being you know, going to the finals
(12:54):
and winning.
Speaker 5 (12:55):
You know, we're not always have.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
The opportunity to do that, but like we do have
control over make in the next step in our own
individual journey, you know. And I think that's that's what
it was about, because I love seeing that man. I
love seeing you know. I love seeing Jacy Tatum take
that next step.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
You know.
Speaker 8 (13:10):
I love seeing you know, you know Nazi and you
know taking that next step. It's just it's a problem,
problem feeling for me, you know, as a player, been
in the league for so long.
Speaker 3 (13:20):
Oh that's nice.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Lakers get eliminated, and he's glad handing everybody and saying,
thanks for kicking out butts, thanks for beating us in five.
I'm glad you're moving on. I mean, come on, really,
it's h Is this Lebron trying to take credit like
like he made ant Man and then and I'm sending
my young pup out to go get uh to go
(13:42):
find his own food. Is that what it is? Cause
I don't know how it would feel. There's no way
after everybody big ja up. You talked about the Lakers.
Oh they're going to the finals. There's no paths. Oh
my god, you got two NBA grades. How are you
not gonna get there? You know, look at the look
at the landscape. Here's another chance. Lebron's gonna win another championship. Now,
(14:06):
what will they say he's got five? He just one
with Luca and instead it's Aunt Yeah, man, go ahead,
awesome man, I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Go do your thing, you go win a championship. Is
that where we are?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I know, Kelvin people thinking this is where we are
with these guys taking a trading jersey to get beat
down by forty and glad handing everybody. I'm not saying
I have to attack you or be nasty to you,
but there is a separation when we're playing and win.
If I see you in the off season, That's why
(14:41):
I love Janna so much. I'm serious. Giannis is like,
I'm not having that. I'm not going on vacation with you.
I'm not working out with you. I'm competing against you.
And ant taking the next step means that Lebron took
a step back, applauding you taking a step back. Lebron
(15:04):
in them weren't the underdogs in the series, they were
the favorites. They got their lunch handed to him. How
does that feel good to see ant Man go forward
when everybody in their uncle not only had you winning
that series, but going to the finals, a lot of
people did, oh wow, they got a free paths. Oh
(15:24):
my god, they got Luca fell on their lap. Now
look they got Austin Reeves.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He's a big.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
Three who You're not gonna take those three guys?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Am I exaggerating? Or note that's what we heard, Kelvin.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I hear you, but I think again, Historically speaking, we
always have the big dogs show the little dogs some love.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Hey, I love to see what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
I love to see he's covered up next, he's got next, yo,
I've been mentoring him. Are I love to see these
guys try to come and take the mantle.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
To me, that's just acknowledgement of where you are. Dude.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
It's forty what about to be forty one this year,
acknowledging that literally this could be the end next year.
And having a relationship with an they just went through
the Olympics together. Anthony Edwards is the guy who comes
in and says, you're my guy. I think you're the best,
but I want to bust your head. Kevin Durant, You're
my favorite player growing up. I can't wait to bust
your head. Lebron I think you're one of the best
(16:18):
players ever. I can't wait to get your butt out
the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
You and Luca.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
This is what he's built up, and he's built that
relationship and that respect, and it kind of reminds me
of Kobe Bryant in a relationship he had with Kyrie.
Kyrie was an annoying little nineteen twenty one year old
wanting to play him.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
At the Olympic.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Come on, man, settled down, man, you you come on, man,
play out. I play in one oh one. And Kobe
has such respect for him. Kobe was known for showing
Russ and KD and those guys so much love and praise,
and I think that's what happens.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
He got eliminated by him.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Especially when there's such a gap in the age, like dude,
I'm looking at this next generation. And also when you've
been in the face of the league, you love to
see the fact that the league will be in good
hands when you view it as a no.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Not thinking about that when you're trying to get to
six championship.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
Lebron Lebron James has through the duration of his career,
always thought about the league, and you know that he
is It is a.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
League in a better place when Jordan left it compared
to where Lebron has it.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
I don't know he left at ninety.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well, just asking you, where's the league as far as
is it in a better place than where Michael Jordan
left it?
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I don't see the relevance. I mean, I'm just asking you.
I don't think ratings wise, it is.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
No.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
In the style of play, no, I don't think that's
indigative Lebron. I think Lebron is done, for the most part,
what he's been asked to do. Be a states bothsmen
and statesmen speak up, do this show up there. I mean,
he's done most of mostly everything for twenty plus years.
So I don't have a problem with him showing love
in a podcast to a young person who has shown
love to him, respect to him. They battled against each other.
(17:50):
I don't think it's an issue to me.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Looking like in the podcast, it was on the court
after the game, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
That's what the viral clip was.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well, the clip was him saying take that next step,
Like I don't, that's just him. Do you see that
all the time with Peyton Manning loses to some young
bid the game.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Man, keep doing your thing. I love what you're doing. Man,
keep growing.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
But Aaron Rodgers loses to some young puppy does it
all the time. Hey, man, love what you're doing. Keep going, man,
the game needs you. You're doing great.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
That's no big deal. When when Larry Bird.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Got sixty three on his head put up against Michael Jordan, man,
remember that and he said that wasn't Michael Jordan series,
that was God disguise he did. But to call another
man God. But I'm saying God, this guy that's crazy.
Didn't lose the series though. But my point is the
expectation for the Lakers was bigger. I would have been
(18:38):
I'm just giving you. I would have been pissed. I
would have been twenty eight.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
I would have been I would know.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
I would have been no, because the expectations weren't about
him at twenty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's just like I tell you all the time, people
who with the Lions, you could.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Say whatever you want. Oh, their defense was banged up,
all up.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
No, they were nine and a half point favorites at
home again Washington.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
They were expected to win the game.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
So you could go ahead and until jayde and Daniels
Man go ahead, yeah, Man, go ahead, yeah, and you
may never get to the super Bowl, never have that opportunity.
Why would you be dapping up a guy and feeling
good in no situation. The Lions are looking for their
first ever Lebron got.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
He's played year. He's chasing Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Chasing Jordan because nobody's gonna let him get Jordan. Anyway,
he ain't chasing Jordan at this point. He's just trying
to He's trying to get to six.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
So trying to make an argument he wants six more
than anything.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Listen, Mike, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Run six championships because it's one more than Kobe. He
had six, that's what he wants.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Well, I don't even think he I think he wants
won more. I don't think he knows he can't get
the six. That ain't happening.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Why he's gonna play four more years for Bryce?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Okay, Well, let's Rob Polenka is about to do some crazy,
crazy moves this offseason.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
That ain't happening.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Maybe they go crazy enough to get one more, but
that's asking a lot for him to get to six.
And even if he did get to six, he'll be
what six and six or something, so people will say
that mattered lebron Jordan was six and oh, so that's
he's never gonna be able to for those who think
Jordan is better, He's never gonna be able to be
better for them.
Speaker 5 (20:15):
So that's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
For the bronze sexuals, it'll be hey, he has six rings,
that's all they care about him.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Him showing love to the young one would be the
same as you being hey man, it's his young pup
coming up reporter sports.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
Broad No, it ain't God, No, it ain't.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Going to mean.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I think he's told him to keep doing this thing.
Matter of fact, our entire station is a bunch of people.
You put on, Rob what you got to say to that? No,
but that ain't mean everybody. Hey, you know, Hey, I
like this kid he's doing. He's up next, put him on,
give him a chance. Hey, I love to see his work, ethic,
He's good. That's what you're doing right now, conversation. You're
showing love to who's up next.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Just like I told you with Giannis.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
There's a reason Yiannis doesn't do that, and it's just
the way that people are cut that's all I'm saying.
And they're not looking to try to take credit for
somebody yells or try to try to hitch their wagon
to the ant man to say like, oh, yeah, you
know the young guy, I want them to go. Dude, No,
we're not after I lose. If I see you on
vacation or see you down the road at some point
(21:13):
and we have that conversation, that's cool. Yo. You know,
I'm not saying to disrespect him or not saying anything
after you lose, But I'm not trying to tell a
guy to take the next step and all that.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Literally like fifteen sixteen years older than him, like absolutely,
that's his response.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
They're still playing, they're still playing against each other. Are
they competition?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So we shouldn't have want to win anyways, that what
you're telling me, because you know, the kid.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Is seen saying, young, realize who you are, where you
are in this thing, knowing this is coming down to
the very very end. And this dude has another seven
eight to fifteen years in and so you're showing for something.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
You're showing them young fellow. I see what you're doing.
I love it.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Keep growing the game. That's just really love and respect
for the game. One of the game to stay at
a high, an elevated level. That's what you're getting. So
we don't have to come on here and an eye
couple yell at these young guys because they're not stepping
the game up, they're not playing hard, they're not respecting
the game, because that's exactly what we be doing, as
we were doing several years ago when we didn't feel
like that young crop was taking it seriously. So Lebron
(22:12):
is trying to continue to grow these guys, help be
there so that the game keeps evolving and Edwards look
like he can be one of those guys who elevates
the game.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Age seven seven ninety nine on Fox, Rob got all
the mentee A seven seven to be a mentor, you
got Seventyes.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
I just it's not the same as apples and oranges.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
I was just saying.
Speaker 9 (22:36):
Rob's like, hey, you can get any job in the country,
just not mine.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
What that's what.
Speaker 9 (22:39):
That's what Lebron just say, I'm glad you're winning. Just
beat everybody else.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
You're not trying to beat me exactly like I'm not
doing that.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
No, But key point is you're already out.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
No, I'm saying he's out of the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
No, but the point is you beat me to get
to your next step. I'm you were the favorite, the
the Lakers were the favorites.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
Welcome to The Odd Couple once again, our man Leon, actor,
singer and Nick superfan who is probably on a super
high right now with the way his team is up
a couple of games on the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Leon, what's up?
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Man? What's up?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Leon?
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Oh? Yes, oh yes, Orange, and guys, you all know
about it right now. But I am a common sense negro, okay,
So I'm realistic about it. We've won two games by
total of two points, so it ain't like we're blowing
people out. So and plus going down by twenty for
(23:49):
three quarters is not a recipe to win games.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Right Well, Well, I mean we'll say this, Leon, And
you know you've been on before with Chris and I
and the most of the time it wasn't It was
always bad news for you and things weren't gonna work
out exactly. But I'm not mad at Nick fans for
being thrilled when you win kind of thrilling games, despite
(24:13):
what the Celtics have done, which is self destruct of
all the stuff you've seen. How shocking is it just
to see the Celtics miss that many threes?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
You know, it's not really that shocking to me because
if you you know, there's a whole saying you live
by the three, you die by the three. And it's
also not shocking to me because the Celtics have blown
big leads all seasons, and they've also lost games at
home all season more than they've lost on the road.
So the real thing is what's going to happen in
(24:47):
the gardens, because now we have control, and that's the
biggest thing that's going to happen. How we gonna what
are we going to do in the garden? Are we
gonna hold home court or at least get one of them?
Because we do that, we are right the knicks of
five and zero in the playoffs on the roads. So
they've proven they can win.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
On the road.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Yeah, Now they just got to take care of business
at home. As you mentioned, they've been in some tight
games all postseason. Feels like they played against the Pistons
and it was nip and tuck most of those games,
and obviously they've had to come back against the Celtics.
Just tell me what you think of Jalen Bronson and
him mister clutch of the Year, and what he's meant
to this team, in that franchise, in that city.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
It's amazing. It's amazing, you know, it's a great We
haven't had a captain in ten years. Now we have
a captain of the team. He's a great leader. I'm
really happy, to be honest with you, though I'm a
little concerned towards the end of the game. They's handling
the ball way too much. I don't believe he should
be dribbling twenty seconds out of twenty four o'clock. I mean,
(25:50):
I'd like to see Thibodeau and saw some more plays.
Why he is not running kick and roll with cats
almost every time he comes down. I don't understand. Both
can pop outside, both can roll. But I see him,
I see kat Will set a pick and sending rolling
to the bucket. He just stays outside.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, I don't it seems like real quick role. I
was gonna say one thing I was gonna say about
their dynamic. It kind of seems like they can't both
get off at the same time. It seems like Brunson
is having a great game or like this most recent one,
he finished well, but he didn't play great, but then
Kat played well. It's like they haven't been able to
kind of do it at the same time.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
Leon, have you noticed that.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
No, but they know, But no, But that's not true.
During the season, they both were doing at the same
I'm saying that was why to do a both All stars.
You know, they both averaged over twenty five points a
game during the season. They were a great duo. But
it's now in the playoffs is when you really got
to make sure you maximize on that. And that's what
I want to see happen. We got two All Stars
on this team and they needed to play like all stars.
(26:46):
And I also put this on Brunson and I put
this on Thibodeaux that first game. Yo, Kat can't shoot
nine shots in a game. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, that's that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Absolutely, you're you're not trying to win with that that
kind of numbers or output. I don't want to rain
on your parade, but I do have to bring this
up because you're a baller and a basketball player.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
Ship.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
But the Mitchell Robinson free throw? What was that?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
That might have been the worst You want to talk
about the worst free throw I ever saw.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I don't even know what that was.
Speaker 6 (27:18):
It wasn't really a free throw. I thought he was
passing to the fans.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
I thought he was throwing it back to the ref.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Leon When you saw that, did you go like, cause
you should here Reggie Miller on the broadcast were.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Like, oh no, and and and uh Kevin Hall, and did.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
You see did you see Robinson's face? He put his
head down.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I mean, you know, like I've seen people miss free
throws or whatever. They've been some bad free throw shoot,
but that might have been the worst one I've ever seen.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, I just I really understand anyone makes it to
this level and you can't shoot free throws, and you
can't even shoot take a shot. I've never seen him
take a shot, not even in the layup.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Lind that's crazy, that's actually funny. Twelve foot there.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
So what I'm saying is that I've never understood how
you can get to this level. Right right, I have
at least one go to move, like what are you
doing in the gym? One go to move, a little
jump hook, a little fade something.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
When I see guys make it up and they don't
have a shot or they can't be offensively, they're just
it's like, how did you make it all the way
through all the ranks and not get there? All right,
here's a bigger question for you. Will you be at
game three? And are you paying?
Speaker 3 (28:35):
What is it?
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Fifty four thousand?
Speaker 1 (28:37):
I've seen the tickets, fifty four thousand the cheapest, or
three thousand or six hundred for nose bleeds.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Where are you going to be in a building?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Okay? Now, those you've ever watching Nick games? But if
you have, you've seen me sitting court side. I've seen you, okay,
And that is the reason why I continually work as
an actor to make movies and TVs. Know that people
love so they invite me to sit at the game.
Thank you very much. Okay, when I'm in the building.
(29:08):
You know I'm in the building, all.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right, I'm asking you, are you going to be in
the building verb game three?
Speaker 6 (29:12):
The only reason I won't be in the building for
game three is because I'm in the road with my
band right now and I'm trying to make sure my
flight gets in on time. They're really messing me up
with this three thirty nonsense.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Right, Why is that why?
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Yeah, we were talking about it yesterday, were.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Thirty like that should be a primetime game. I know,
it's Uh, what is that because of the West Coast
games or whatever? What is the reason that Nixon and
Celtics are playing in the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I don't know. Maybe they want the kids to come
have hot dogs. I don't know. I can't figure it out.
I can't figure it out.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
That should be a nighttime game. I'm shocked that that's
a three thirty star.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
It's amazing. Let me tell you that I just posted
the other day, and because I've been saying this for years,
the NBA Playoffs is the best series on TV, and
it's been for years. These games, when it gets the
playoff level, are just intriguing on the watch down to
the wire, and a lot of it is because the
referees are letting the guys play.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I agree with that well, but there were a lot
of blowouts in the first round two.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
I mean, that's not you enjoy all the the.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
Oh okay, eight minute Leon Leon Leon?
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Did you watch okay see win by forty three last night?
It wasn't last month, it was last night. Every game's
not nipping talk. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
You watch Listen, No, okay, can't we unfair? Can we
agree that eight or seven out of ten?
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Okay, I'm not saying there's been some really good games.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Listen. If there's two games or three games in the
night and two of them are great or one of
them is great out of two, come on.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Now, I'm just saying, it's just funny you saying that
after that disgusting game yesterday that I mean that.
Speaker 6 (30:54):
That game was over before it started. Yeah, that game
that was that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
So so so let me get here.
Speaker 5 (31:00):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
So that's up to all m hmm. They have to
win this series, don't they.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Uh well, no one would think.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But you know, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not one
with think.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I'm asking you, as a Knick fan, you're if anything
other than winning this series is a total disaster of
the season.
Speaker 5 (31:20):
Correct.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
I don't know what I wouldn't say as a disaster
of the season, but close to give me tell you why,
let me tell you, let me tell you why it hurts.
It hurts because we have not been able to get
past the second round for the last three years. That's
where it's really gonna hurt. And it's gonna hurt because
it's Boston. See if you have to tell us that.
If you're from New York, right, and you ask if
(31:44):
the Knicks, if the Knicks, what do you want the
Knicks to do? You want the Knicks to win the championship.
If the Knicks don't want to win the championship, what's
the second best thing? Well, the second best thing to
New Yorker is to beat Boston.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
I get that. I mean I'm from Jamaica, Queen, so
I get that whole thing. But my point is, once
your team exceeds the expectation, which is going to Boston
and winning two games on the road, if you don't
look at this series and say the Knicks can't, if
the Celtics come back and win four out of the
next five and they advance and beat you, you have
(32:17):
lost a golden opportunity and you have choked.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Is what you have done.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I'm sorry, because all you're gonna do is win one
of the next two games and you're in the driver's seat.
Speaker 6 (32:27):
Yeah, you know, let me tell you each other. I
agree with you, except for the choke part, because.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
Let's be honest, that wouldn't be a choke.
Speaker 6 (32:35):
No, because the champs could actually start playing like the
champs and that could be a problem. They You got
to realize they twenty five or one hundred from the
three point line.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm five.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
At some point the numbers are gonna start. Yeah, but the.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Knicks haven't played great either, Like go look at the numbers.
Jalen Brunson was six for nineteen. He can play better,
like there are other guys. Kelt Bridges didn't have a
point for the first three quarters, you know, like they
can improve and play better.
Speaker 6 (33:07):
We were down twenty three quarters, so you know, we
ain't playing good. But one thing I have to say,
and this is what I love. We are playing good
when he counts. Now, you guys, when the game is
tied and it's either way, we do what we have
(33:28):
to do.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
You did think did that real quick?
Speaker 3 (33:32):
It don't sound confident that this year?
Speaker 5 (33:34):
He did. For a minute, then it changed.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
No, what's changed with Leon? You're not?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
No, No, no, I'm very no. Listen, I'm very confident.
But like I started off the show saying, I'm a
common sense negro, Okay, okay, okay, So you know I'm
gonna be I'm gonna be confident, but I'm not gonna
be over confident.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
All right? I respect it. Lee, real quick, before you go,
get real quick. We got about a less than a minute.
You played in so many classic movies, so many that
are staples, especially with black folks. Let me ask you this,
Serious Temptations or the Five Heartbeats? Which one do you
say people bring up to you the most. Which one
is the one people have questions, they stop you about,
they ask you what they talk to you about?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Wow? Wow, Wow. I would say I would say the
Temptations one because it's more recent than it plays more
but also because of that line that I said, ain't
nobody you know, you know, like if if I don't
hear that every day of my life, I must be dead.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well let's make sure you hear it today. Ain't nobody
trying to see you, ois, But that's good.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Like if you can have a line where people, I
know it's annoying, but it's great that you that that
sticks with people for sure.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Well, yeah, that's why, that's that's why I went to
the problem of trademarketing. Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
There you go, smart smart man, smart man for sure. Leon,
We appreciate and talk to you again.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I appreciate you guys too, Nick go Nick,
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