May 16, 2025 • 28 mins
Former NFL All-Pro and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Kerry Rhodes is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why Brock Purdy deserved the big payday he just got from the San Francisco 49ers, discuss whether Caitlin Clark is the most popular athlete in America, and take Kevin Durant to task for doubling-down on his take that only other hoopers can critique NBA players.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:25):
Some big news broke not too long ago. Carrie brock
Purdy is feeling pretty good right now. Yes, it is
because he just got the bag a big time payday,
and it's been a conversation people have had now for
really probably a year, year and a half of do
your pay him?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Is he the guy? How do you do it? If
he is? Here's the details of this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's gonna be five year contract extension value that two
hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Here's the real thing that matters, of course, one hundred
and eighty one million guarantee. I get to that part.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And the agreement positions him to basically make around fifth
fifty three million dollars a year, and so way to
go from mister irrelevant to mister fifty something million dollars
a year. So initial reactions from me, Carrie, Rob and
I have been sitting here, you know, the duration of
(01:17):
me doing the show with him joining the odd couple,
and I've said I'm going to pay him. Yes, I said,
he's he's done everything you've asked of him. And now
the best thing to me that happened, believe it or not, Carrie,
is a down season because to me, they could have
been worried saying, all right, we only saw you at
your peak. You kind of came into a good situation.
(01:37):
Maybe you caught while that, you know, struck whether the
iron was hot. We had a bunch of people here
and they got to see him at his low and
it realized, Okay, his low wasn't that low. And it
consisted of us having a lot of issues, right, having
some issues at the line, having some issues with guys
in and out of the lineup. And some people will say, well,
everybody gets people, has teams, guys that are injured. I
would argue, I'd rather you almost be injured for ten
(01:59):
weeks in two weeks here and then out here, because
then we have no fluidy. If you're just out out
then at least we know we can we can switch
it up and now we know what we're gonna do.
When you're in, then you're out, but then he's out.
But then he's in, but he's out. It throws you
off a little bit. So to me, I think they
were able to look at the peak of him, the
low of him, and then find him happy media and say,
(02:19):
all right, if that's his worst, we'll be okay. Because
it's my job, John Lynch, to supply him with everything
he needs around him. It's my job now to find
the new debo, right, It's my job solidify the offensive
line some more, to solidify some of the defenders that
have left.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's my job.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But if I saw him at his low and that
was it last year, which wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'll take that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And in my last point here until I talked to you,
to Kerry, here's some other reasons why I like what
I've seen from him.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
He's still very young. It seems like he's been around
for so long, and.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He's like twenty five twenty six years old, So that
I know what I have now, and this goes through
twenty thirty, so I know what I have for the
next five years. And then obviously could be longer if
we decide to do that again. But I look at
the list of guys who are making the most money.
So let's look at this. The highest paid quarterbacks in
the NFL on a per year base. Have this list, Carrie, Oh,
(03:11):
I know there's only two people that you would absolutely say, okay,
he's they're better than him. The rest of me are debatable.
Some is clearcut, he's better than them. I'm gonna read
this list offten and I'll let you go. My brother
Dak Prescott, as we own, he's making the sixty million.
We all reference, ye, they're equal or if not. And
if you're going based off resume, rock Party's smoking him. Resume, okay.
(03:36):
Joe Burrow is the only person we go okay, well,
I mean the only two. Okay, he's better making fifty five.
Other person next up, Josh Allen making fifty five. Now
Jordan Love is debatable right now rock Party's resume. He
can say, dude, I've been the NFC championship games, I've
in the Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I mean, what do you want? What more do you
want from me? Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And then Trevor Lawrence at fifty five clearly he watches
him Tua at fifty three two US good. I think
he's he's not that. I think it brocked Party. I'm
feeling good looking at him. I die. And then Jared Goff,
which I think is actually more of the perfect comp
you do. Yeah, now that one I don't agree with,
but go ahead, Fenders, go ahead. And that's the list.
(04:15):
So those are the lists of guys making equal or
more money, and I think only two people you can justify. Now.
Obviously Pat Mahomes isn't an exist Lamar Jackson is, and
they'll get paid again. But I'm saying, as of right now,
if I'm brock Party in his agent, I'm saying, why
am I not getting paid?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My resume is better than everybody on this list except
maybe Joe Burrow. And it says that he's been to
a super Bowl. But I used to have a higher
winning percentage of you. So who am I looking at
and saying, ooh, I can't you know?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm worried to that I'm not as good as him,
so that would be my reasoning. I saw him at
as low, I've seen him at his high. I feel
comfortable with that. He's still young. And the money is
about right. You gotta pay quarterbacks, period, and this break
fifty three million.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Everything he say it is correct, except for the comparison
of Golf.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I think Golf is a better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Golf has been to the Super Bowl as well, he
didn't win it, and GoF is in a really good
situation to keep building on that and to you know,
make all of its stuff and everything he's earned valid.
Right when I was saying, I was saying the cop
of career, No, I got liked like both been the
Super Bowl, both FEDS, some winning successful runs for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No, But it's one of those things where you know
what you sound like rock Perty's agent, that's what you
sound like.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You My wife is a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
There you go, know, and everything you said would be
what would be presented to the team. And obviously he's
in a perfect situation, perfect time. It's always perfect time
in place, because if this was another year where there
was other quarterbacks out there that could rival him or
make him expendable, then it's a different conversation. Right now
where we are and where the league is period, there
(05:51):
were no other quarterbacks that you could take anyway. So
if you have a guy that you know, knows your system,
has proven that he can get you to the mountaintop,
obviously hadn't won it yet, right, And then you the
point you just made though this past year where things
weren't perfect. Did he look great? No, but he looked
good at times. Yep, he looked serviceable. And you look
like a guy that, even when things are at its worst,
(06:13):
we can count on this guy to be this guy.
And he is this guy right now, right, And so
that's point blank period, And it's the market.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You can't That's the that's.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The part, right, Like, you can't fight the market when
you're one of the you know, one of the No,
I would say top tier size, Yeah, you know. I
like he's right there, and the market says this is
your value. You got to get paid that way. And
if I was him, if they didn't pay me that way,
I would have left and tried to test that market
(06:44):
to see because somebody would be in need. There are
teams out there that could still use a quarterback, right,
and so you throw all those factors into play and
put him in this situation. You have to pay the man,
and I think it's a good move by servirances, and
I don't even Again, I don't think it's crazy because
typically this happens. And let's say he had even better season.
Let's say they didn't have to even have to go
to the super Bowl. But let's just say they were
(07:06):
twelve and five. Yeah, won the division twelve and five,
maybe they won a first round the playoffs, and then
maybe even then lost. Well, now he will be saying,
look what I've done historically, Look what I did this year.
Now I want why is why can't I look at
Dak Prescott and say I deserve more than him?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And you wouldn't have a case, right, you'd have to go.
So to me, this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Deal actually is team friendly when you're projecting out another
five years. It fits to me about where he is
as far as rankings of quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So it's not an asinine group of money. Now again,
I've argued this with Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Rob. I wouldn't pay him for I'd let him go
out of all. I'm like, dude, quarterbacks don't grow on trees.
Quarterbacks who I can depend on don't go tree quarterbacks.
I never got to worry about drama. Don't grow on trees.
Who shows me he can win a game, because that's
what he did against the Lions in that NFC championship,
and he came back and he led every big first down.
He got it with his legs, with his arm, So
he showed me he can do that in bigs phases
(08:01):
as well. And he's not good, he's not perfect. You
could throw to some games that he wasn't great. No
quarterback is right, and he also was an MVP candidate
the season before last. So to me, it just makes
perfect sense. The money, the timing, the guy, the system
and how you can move forward. You still believe you're
in your window. You only can be in your window
(08:21):
with the quarterback, and you got it. So I think
this is it makes sense. I'm not mad and I'm happy.
I congrats to him a last boy too. What an
amazing story. Literally, your nickname is mister irrelevant now at
the money problems are irrelevant. Nothing's irrelevant now, Yeah you
know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's
one of those things where yeah, it's one of those
racted riches stories. I'm sure I don't know his background,
(08:42):
his backstory, where he came from. I'm sure it's not Raggs,
but when it comes to the bottom of the totem
pole in the NFL, being that guy and working at
your craft and winning the job. That's what the NFL
story is about, right If you wanted to preach it
or tell any young kid out there that they do
have a chance if they do it this way, he
would be the post a child for that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
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Speaker 1 (09:13):
App So this is interesting. I threw this out to
Mike l last hour. If you didn't hear it, go
check out the podcast. We had Mike h as a
guest and we kind of a conversation there. During an
appearance on the Bill Simmons podcast, you got the WNBA commissioner,
Kathy Engelbert, and she had a few things to say.
One of the things she talked about was this, it is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
A balance, but she's a generational talent. No league is
ever about one player, but in this case, Caitlin brought
tens of millions of new viewers into the w and
there's no denying that impact. Not just in the WNBA,
but the world of sports. Adam and I took all
the time about she's the most popular athlete in America.
But again, you do want to balance it because obviously
it saw what happened with Juju Wattin's you know, getting hurt.
(09:51):
You want to balance making sure that you're also promoting
your other stars, like in Asia Wilson. Yeah, like a
Breanna Stewart and a Fisa Collier. That's why this year
sustaining game, sustained the momentum we had last year and
gain even new new viewers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
All Right, I'm gonna we're gonna get to that. We're
gonna work in backwards.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So the first point she made, we're gonna come back
to that talking about the you know, biggest athlete in America.
We'll come back to that in a second. I do
want to have a conversation about sustain and gain. Rob
and I have sat here a few times talking about
his favorite sport in the world, which is a w NBA.
He never misses a game. And for me, I know
that I'm a basketball fan. So I sincerely can look
(10:30):
at you, look at anybody and tell you I actually peak.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I keep it. I'm gonna act like I watch every
game go. I went to the game last year, saw
Kaitlyn Clark came to play the Sparks.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Took my daughters. It was good to see her. She
had a huge shot to put them up five to
pretty much ice the game. It was it was fun.
So I do think there's something that they have an
advantage that I won't say that the NBA doesn't have
in the sense of the NBA obviously is superior right
now as far as ratings and all that and notoriety.
But the fact that you end up knowing their players.
(11:00):
And I was talking about this earlier on the phone
with Rob g Dude, the last two years, you know
more they're the ladies going in the draft going to
the w NBA than you do the players in the
heading two of the NBA. You know Cooper Flagg. That
might be where you can plant your flag. That's about it,
you know what I mean. You might know one or
due that's it. Whereas they're a handful of players coming
(11:23):
from college w into the WNB oh I know her, No,
Page Backer's okay, I know her.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I know her.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And so what happens is there's some sustainability where you
get into you're like, oh, shoot, there's paging. Oh Juju
was gonna get ready to be coming up right. Oh,
there's Andrew Reese. There's obviously Caitlyn Clark, the FISA Collier.
I mean, you start to know some of these players
because you've seen them. Of course, they had competitive games.
Their tournament has been fun to watch as well. So
I think Cameron Brink being another one obviously yep, and
(11:50):
exactly when she comes back, that's another great one. When
she comes back, Breonna Stewart, so on and so forth.
So I think there is a chance to sustain it
as long as one of the points is they have
to fully embrace it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I know you want to make sure you prop it
up everybody, but you have to fully embrace the Caitlin
Clark experience.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And I like it too. Right around nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Eighty nine ish, when you start to realize, I this
Michael Jordan, dude, he might be it. So we might
want to go ahead and say, like Mike Kazak and me,
like Mike ballpark hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You might with gatorade.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You want to get everybody going and get it energizer money,
Spike Lee and the Jordans. We're just gonna ride this
train and it's gonna be the high tide that lifts all.
And I think that's to me, they need to fully
embrace it, and by day I mean everyone, players, commissioners, owners, everyone.
I think the only reason there was even push back
(12:48):
to that idea at first was just the way it
was presented to us. I think on the when you
look at it as a brand and you have these
these women who have lay you know, paved the way
he really went to war and won championships and you know,
starting to get deals, and you know, you had Asia
Wilson and that team that was already winning and you know,
and winning championship, not just balling right, and so you know,
(13:11):
to implement somebody who hadn't taken a shot yet in
that league to the lights that she was at. I
think that was the reason that was so much pushback early.
But as far as what you're saying, and it shouldn't
be that way now because she's kind of put herself
in that culture. She's been just one of the women
and she's down with that and she's letting her play
(13:32):
do the talking. Like we can look at her and
say She's a special player. She's deserving of that, and
I think that's part of why it was a little
pushback early on. Here's the thing, though, yeah, I get them.
The immediate pushback should have been on the court.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What I mean by that is, I don't care if
you Michael Jordan'm Magic Johnson, come step, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm Larry Bird young fellow. We the ones getting these rings.
You ain't did none yet, you did not know you
dropped sixty on us. Yeah, but you ain't winning. So
I that should be and that should consist no matter
what right I'm trying to bust her head to night,
of course. But what happens is and this is why
when Steven A. Smith gets one hundred million dollars, Kelvin
Washington doesn't go, I don't go, oh.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man, he ain't worth it. He ain't that good.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm like great, because now I look at it and
say the barometer like, oh, there's a possibility that you know,
and again, maybe I never get it, but there is
a possibility of that. And what angel Asia Wilson is
absolutely the better player as we sit here and speak today,
without a doubt, was and currently is and we'll see
you up the upcoming year. But I think part of
(14:32):
Caitlyn coming in getting everyone watching, getting everyone talking controversy,
which is good, by the way, right Kevin, we're talking
about it now wall eyes are on. And what happened
was people were staying to your point, hey what about Asia?
And now Asia Wilson's shoes sold out in five minutes
to the two, and that we were looking to maybe
consider against.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Some of my daughters. Oh they're gone house even going. Man,
they got a size ten.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't know what that is, and females that is
like twelve, and women's I don't know what it is,
but I might have to get some and they so out.
My point is it's because of how great Asia is,
first and foremost. But now hey, we got all eyes on.
People are having conversations. They're saying we need to highlight
and you know, maybe we do need to continue the
highlight of the players.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And I just think it all helps, is what I'm saying.
People are watching.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So the other part of that, again she said, was
Kaylor Clark is the biggest UH sports figure in America.
Stop second, age, Ken, I'm not even letting you get
to that point. Let me go First, this is the problem,
and this is why there is so much heat when
it comes to these type of topics. Right, let's just
(15:36):
say she's she's the best woman's player out there, and
she's the most popular. Why do you have to compare it?
The two aren't the same. The NBA has always been
the more popular. And even if you talk about outside
of basketball, you talking about football, she's not more popular
than Tom Brady or I know he's not currently planning it.
She's not more popular than Patrick Mahomes. Like that's not
(15:57):
that part doesn't matter though, Like why are we to compare?
And that's that's why I get upset. Just let her
before I'm tired. Stop signing, red light, stop sign yield everything.
You hit me with all of it. But okay, I
will say this, Yeah, what's the biggest sport in America?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The biggest sport in America? The NFL agreed obviously, Doug.
I don't think you can name me three players that
are bigger than her outside I'll.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Give you two, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. I don't think
Lamar Jackson is more popular than her. What I think
Lamar Jackson is more popular in her for guys who
people who are football people. But to broader America, if
I just took America as a whole, whether you're a
football fan, nonfolk, just to just what if I just
pulled up on people, I think more and I showed
you a picture of them, I think more people would
(16:48):
know Caitlyn Clark than they would Lamar Jacks, Lamar, I'll say, okay,
take out Lamar. Patrick Mahomes, No, you keep him in there.
That's what you feel, Lebron James Curry like about sport.
You right, I don't think you can get past four
or five. But that's but that point is at least
is been debatable, meaning all right, if I'm up in five,
(17:11):
it ain't like she's fifteen. No, Lebron Steph, I'm completely
Patrick Mahomes completely agree.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I didn't think about this one. So I gotta give
credit to Rob g. Robb g. This is me giving
you credit.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted to still it Aaron Rodgers because I just
think he's been around so long and just everybody kind
of knows him. Yeah, outside of that, I mean no,
I think he's really popularing great, So this isn't like
a bashing of that at all. I don't think there's
a baseball player, No, no baseball that is more popular, Oh, Tony, Nope,
you'll think globally what she said in America?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Did it? She did right, rob G. She said America.
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Speaker 1 (18:00):
So, KD, you have Emmanuel Aucho on his show, and
I'm trying to paraphrase, do we want to go back
to son Rober you want to be a paraphrase? Well, paraphrase,
so Aucho basically says, Hey, I think the Celtics are
a better team, not a better team, but they fight harder,
They take the presence, the essence of that leader at
(18:21):
Jalen Brown, tougher, going to the whole more than tATu,
who's more soft spoken, more chill, kind of a more
reserved and gonna shoot a lot of threes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That was essentially what he's saying, paraphrasing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
KD jumps on Twitter and he just basically says, I
actually want to pull it up to make sure I
get it correct, all right, read it for me, rodjer
I want to make sure. I want to quot because
his part is the most important. He says, hot take
artists have ruined the sport football guys. No disrespect Carrie
for y'all. Boys need to stay in your lanes. You
don't know what it's like in between these lines. Give
it a.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Break, which is not true.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But go ahead, go ahead, Kelvin so I said at
that time, all right, first of all, well, actually I'm
gonna get to the double down. Alto comes back today
because obviously that happened after his show, He's had his
opportunity to say something essentially, but he took them shot
to Katie and he says, look, you might have struck
a corps because you weren't the leader. As matter of fact,
(19:14):
twenty seventeen, you said in the publication that, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I don't want to lead. I'm not that kind of leader.
I don't like having people behind me.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
He said, you whenever you try to drive the bus,
the bus crashed, but you hopped on the bus.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And the Warriors won. I mean, he was calling him out.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Kd Ryan Clark says something as well, man, so you're
trying to you know, guys will have to stick to
the sport they know, And Katie said, y'all taking it
too seriously. All I was trying to say is y'all
don't know what it's like to walk in the shoes,
to be an NBA play with so on and so forth.
So here here's my thing, Katie. So many things, by
the way, you're trying to be brief. Number one, Katie
(19:48):
talks about football all the time. He's a big time
commander fans, right. He talks about it to the tune
of jumping on with Kay Adams weekly FanDuel to talk
about what football often. That's right, which is perfectly kad
grew up. Guess where he went a lot? Probably I
would imagine a barbershop.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know what you do.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Soon as you walk in, man so and so way
better than him, so and so, smoke him and you
have conversations. Doesn't matter if you were a barber, if
you were insurance salesman, a dope boy, it didn't matter.
You had an opinion on something, and so so did
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant always has an opinion on music,
you know what I mean? Like, we all do these things.
So I can't be a movie blogger or I can't
(20:26):
be a movie film critic if I never made a film.
I can't write for Bloomberg or Wall Street Journal if
I don't run a business myself like this, These things happened,
and the idea is to say as if they haven't
done the research, to homework to be great analysts as yourself,
and you know others do who played football. And also
my biggest point, Kevin Durant likes to throw his nose
(20:49):
and everything, so much so that he had a burner
account carried because he wanted to have an opinion here opinionaire.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Opinionaire called them out getting the comment section. And lastly,
a man you also has a nice right done well
for himself, doing well, doing well. Yeah, guess what made
this bigger.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
When you jumped in and gave your opinion, Kevin Durant,
you made it a thing. It would have been on
the show, died off the show, nobody would have talked
about it a game. But when you, Kevin Durant, jumped
out made it bigger. Now it's on this show. Ryan
Clark's jumping in, Evaniel's got to come back the next day.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And Carrie Roads and Kelvin Washington are talking about right now,
A couple, Right, So I'm just blown away by that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, No, the KD thing here, man, It's obviously he
only speaks about things that he wanted to speak he
wants to speak about, right. There are plenty of topics
and plenty of things that go over that are hot
takes and hot take culture, and he doesn't respond to.
When it comes to the NBA, he thinks it's a
sacred place and it's a place that you know, only
a few can can can say they've done, which is true.
(21:46):
But most of these players and most of us guys
that have played sports at a certain point in time,
also played basketball, right, so we understand how to play basketball.
We understand what what happens, what needs to happen for
a team to win, because most sports, I would say
every sport, if you're a leader, you know, if you
don't have a leader that's an emotional leader that can
(22:07):
get you to a place of being more physical or
being having a different approach to the game in a game,
in any specific game, then that team isn't gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
There is truth to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now, to say that somebody's better and when somebody's there
or not there, that's an opinion. You don't have to
take that energy or that statement with any validity. That's
a true thing, and you don't have to go back
at it and say you don't know, I know better
because I do it. That's not always the case. And
so for me, it's just that like when you give
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somebody a platform to actually what you just said. When
KD jumped on, that's when it was a real thing,
that's true. Like that, that's the part that throws me
off in any of these conversations. We don't have to
let anybody say anything and have any effect on us
in any way.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's just their thing, Carrie, what I know.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It wasn't about his brother, his mother, or his other
It was about Jason Tatum. It wasn't even about say.
It was about Steph and that's my guy, right, we
played it. It was about Russ that's my brother. I
played with him, Jason Tatum and it wasn't a hot take.
Jylen Brown was taking it to the right, being more
physical and he was saying maybe they want to you know,
and then they show a video of him like what
(23:21):
the timeout they were? He was getting everybody up high
five of them gett him going. It wasn't a crazy take.
You might not agree, but it was always like he
was like, Jason Tatum is not even a top fifty
player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Right, Kevin. I'm gonna say this though, because he even
said Tatum is the better player.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, but I don't I don't agree with this with
a Cho's take at all. I just don't like that
KD jumps into these things and says that somebody's not
qualified to do it because he's not the person to
say that yet.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And that's Joe everything.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And he even took a dig oh talking about toughness
from a guy that would quit the NFL early to
do media dang.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Kde Mike, and I don't even act like I'm like
Aucho's my god.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I don't even know him, but I'm saying but that
was to take the personal dig when he was talking
about Jason Tatum and already said he's the better player
and he's a great player. I was genuinely shocked that
that affected Kadi that much.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
If he was saying.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Kevin Durant is not the top fifteen because he jumped
on the bus with the war. Okay, I defend yourself. Hey,
I was the best player in that team. I'm cool
with that. But that was the take that got you
ribbed up to the tune of everybody jumping in and
now you're trying to no, I wasn't even that serious.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No, I'll do that. We got to know the history here.
That's what I asked, g didn't I said, am I
missing something to him?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And out you have issues because don't now backtrack and
say it wasn't even that serious when you took a
personal shot at him. You said football players who quit
early to do media.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But then it'd be like, oh, it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Same dude again, that has burner accounts to just jump
into everything, jump in this comment section.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Jump dude, this is what you do as well.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And it's so that's okay if you choose a that
and the idea again that because you didn't play that sport,
you can't talk about it. And I would even argue,
and this is coming from a guy who did not
play professionally, I would argue that a lot of the
principles are the same. The work ethic, yes, the camaraderie.
It takes the ability to follow leadership with coaching or
maybe you're just the leader of the team. You know,
(25:19):
some guys have to just absolutely being able to compartmentalize.
Moms sick. But I gotta go drop thirty or I
gotta go throw for three hundred, or I got to
go deflect four passes and make six tackles.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Like, there's a lot of the principles that apply.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I believe yourself can have a conversation about being
a professional. Now, do you know what it's like to
maybe crossover span over a euro step to the you know,
maybe not, I mean not saying you can't do that, brother,
Maybe you're giving them buckets.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
To the YNCA.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm getting I'm giving buckets, yeah for sure, but you
get what I mean, Like the idea that you can
never and again just to give out. It wasn't as
if he was just questioning Tatum's talent or heart. I'm
just blown away by that that that would be the thing. Yeah,
I just blew me away. Yeah, I agree with you.
I'm wholeheartily on the Hey, d should just he should
just let that one go. And for him to say
that somebody's not qualified to talk about something when you've
(26:08):
been hired to talk about that. When he talks about
music all the time, or he talks about football all
the time. We all talk about it. That's the best
part about life. We all have the things we're into, right,
And that's his job. If he wasn't qualified to do it,
he wouldn't be doing it. And by the way, for
a lot of athletes who get mad at people who
do this stuff, I get it now in current day
because we have you all have your own outlets, right,
You got my own. That's why I do my own podcast.
(26:28):
I got my own Twitter, kind of got my own.
I got to Snapchat, Twit, talk, TikTok. You do realize
a lot of what made sports popular is sports media, right,
is also having these conversations given the shows, and if
you don't think inside the NBA had something to do
with helping the game and people being a part of it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I'm not saying it was singularly.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I obviously, at the end of the day, the games
have to be good in the sports, But I'm saying
read it, dude. There are times you couldn't see a
game you just had to read about it, right sports, Right,
you know what I'm saying, You couldn't you had to
hear it on the radio. You had to hear the
sports journalist who was on the weekends, and like, how
much and how much time do we spend having sports
to bait with our friends.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You go to a bar, you're having the wings and
the beer, you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Talk about Oh man, you're crazy, Muhammad, I leave it
to get smoked by Floyd Mayweather.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He was the same way. That's the better. That's a
fun part. So the idea that he can't do that,
or we can't express our opinions from a guy again
who does nothing but that regularly. One, two, three, can't
coon relaxing, can't coon? They get off the.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Phone man, And it's not new, and this is this
isn't new, Like hot takes have been here for the past.
That one year that was a lukewarm one shoot. But
somebody could be a hot tape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
A hot tag?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He said, No, I get they're better off without Jason Tatum.
They don't ever need Jason Tatum again. As matter of fact,
he's not even a top twenty five player. That's a
hot task. Yeah, he said, he's the better player. He's
the better he's a great player. He's the better player
on top five Sox seers in the league. But I
just saw from a leadership standpoint, I thought they responded
to him better. Yeah, got me over here. Like I know, Acho,
(27:56):
I say, you're defending them.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Hey, hold up, all right, ain't know Johnny Cocker going
on right now.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm just simply saying, that's the second time being a lawyer.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Some big news broke not too long ago. Carrie brock
Purdy is feeling pretty good right now. Yes, it is
because he just got the bag a big time payday,
and it's been a conversation people have had now for
really probably a year, year and a half of do
your pay him?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Is he the guy? How do you do it? If
he is? Here's the details of this.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
It's gonna be five year contract extension value that two
hundred and sixty five million.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Here's the real thing that matters, of course, one hundred
and eighty one million guarantee. I get to that part.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And the agreement positions him to basically make around fifth
fifty three million dollars a year, and so way to
go from mister irrelevant to mister fifty something million dollars
a year. So initial reactions from me, Carrie, Rob and
I have been sitting here, you know, the duration of
(01:17):
me doing the show with him joining the odd couple,
and I've said I'm going to pay him. Yes, I said,
he's he's done everything you've asked of him. And now
the best thing to me that happened, believe it or not, Carrie,
is a down season because to me, they could have
been worried saying, all right, we only saw you at
your peak. You kind of came into a good situation.
(01:37):
Maybe you caught while that, you know, struck whether the
iron was hot. We had a bunch of people here
and they got to see him at his low and
it realized, Okay, his low wasn't that low. And it
consisted of us having a lot of issues, right, having
some issues at the line, having some issues with guys
in and out of the lineup. And some people will say, well,
everybody gets people, has teams, guys that are injured. I
would argue, I'd rather you almost be injured for ten
(01:59):
weeks in two weeks here and then out here, because
then we have no fluidy. If you're just out out
then at least we know we can we can switch
it up and now we know what we're gonna do.
When you're in, then you're out, but then he's out.
But then he's in, but he's out. It throws you
off a little bit. So to me, I think they
were able to look at the peak of him, the
low of him, and then find him happy media and say,
(02:19):
all right, if that's his worst, we'll be okay. Because
it's my job, John Lynch, to supply him with everything
he needs around him. It's my job now to find
the new debo, right, It's my job solidify the offensive
line some more, to solidify some of the defenders that
have left.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
That's my job.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
But if I saw him at his low and that
was it last year, which wasn't great, but it wasn't horrible.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I'll take that.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And in my last point here until I talked to you,
to Kerry, here's some other reasons why I like what
I've seen from him.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
He's still very young. It seems like he's been around
for so long, and.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
He's like twenty five twenty six years old, So that
I know what I have now, and this goes through
twenty thirty, so I know what I have for the
next five years. And then obviously could be longer if
we decide to do that again. But I look at
the list of guys who are making the most money.
So let's look at this. The highest paid quarterbacks in
the NFL on a per year base. Have this list, Carrie, Oh,
(03:11):
I know there's only two people that you would absolutely say, okay,
he's they're better than him. The rest of me are debatable.
Some is clearcut, he's better than them. I'm gonna read
this list offten and I'll let you go. My brother
Dak Prescott, as we own, he's making the sixty million.
We all reference, ye, they're equal or if not. And
if you're going based off resume, rock Party's smoking him. Resume, okay.
(03:36):
Joe Burrow is the only person we go okay, well,
I mean the only two. Okay, he's better making fifty five.
Other person next up, Josh Allen making fifty five. Now
Jordan Love is debatable right now rock Party's resume. He
can say, dude, I've been the NFC championship games, I've
in the Super Bowls.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I mean, what do you want? What more do you
want from me? Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (03:54):
And then Trevor Lawrence at fifty five clearly he watches
him Tua at fifty three two US good. I think
he's he's not that. I think it brocked Party. I'm
feeling good looking at him. I die. And then Jared Goff,
which I think is actually more of the perfect comp
you do. Yeah, now that one I don't agree with,
but go ahead, Fenders, go ahead. And that's the list.
(04:15):
So those are the lists of guys making equal or
more money, and I think only two people you can justify. Now.
Obviously Pat Mahomes isn't an exist Lamar Jackson is, and
they'll get paid again. But I'm saying, as of right now,
if I'm brock Party in his agent, I'm saying, why
am I not getting paid?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
My resume is better than everybody on this list except
maybe Joe Burrow. And it says that he's been to
a super Bowl. But I used to have a higher
winning percentage of you. So who am I looking at
and saying, ooh, I can't you know?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I'm worried to that I'm not as good as him,
so that would be my reasoning. I saw him at
as low, I've seen him at his high. I feel
comfortable with that. He's still young. And the money is
about right. You gotta pay quarterbacks, period, and this break
fifty three million.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
It makes sense.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Everything he say it is correct, except for the comparison
of Golf.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I think Golf is a better quarterback.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Golf has been to the Super Bowl as well, he
didn't win it, and GoF is in a really good
situation to keep building on that and to you know,
make all of its stuff and everything he's earned valid.
Right when I was saying, I was saying the cop
of career, No, I got liked like both been the
Super Bowl, both FEDS, some winning successful runs for sure.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
No, But it's one of those things where you know
what you sound like rock Perty's agent, that's what you
sound like.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You My wife is a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
There you go, know, and everything you said would be
what would be presented to the team. And obviously he's
in a perfect situation, perfect time. It's always perfect time
in place, because if this was another year where there
was other quarterbacks out there that could rival him or
make him expendable, then it's a different conversation. Right now
where we are and where the league is period, there
(05:51):
were no other quarterbacks that you could take anyway. So
if you have a guy that you know, knows your system,
has proven that he can get you to the mountaintop,
obviously hadn't won it yet, right, And then you the
point you just made though this past year where things
weren't perfect. Did he look great? No, but he looked
good at times. Yep, he looked serviceable. And you look
like a guy that, even when things are at its worst,
(06:13):
we can count on this guy to be this guy.
And he is this guy right now, right, And so
that's point blank period, And it's the market.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You can't That's the that's.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
The part, right, Like, you can't fight the market when
you're one of the you know, one of the No,
I would say top tier size, Yeah, you know. I
like he's right there, and the market says this is
your value. You got to get paid that way. And
if I was him, if they didn't pay me that way,
I would have left and tried to test that market
(06:44):
to see because somebody would be in need. There are
teams out there that could still use a quarterback, right,
and so you throw all those factors into play and
put him in this situation. You have to pay the man,
and I think it's a good move by servirances, and
I don't even Again, I don't think it's crazy because
typically this happens. And let's say he had even better season.
Let's say they didn't have to even have to go
to the super Bowl. But let's just say they were
(07:06):
twelve and five. Yeah, won the division twelve and five,
maybe they won a first round the playoffs, and then
maybe even then lost. Well, now he will be saying,
look what I've done historically, Look what I did this year.
Now I want why is why can't I look at
Dak Prescott and say I deserve more than him?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
And you wouldn't have a case, right, you'd have to go.
So to me, this.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Deal actually is team friendly when you're projecting out another
five years. It fits to me about where he is
as far as rankings of quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So it's not an asinine group of money. Now again,
I've argued this with Rob.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Rob. I wouldn't pay him for I'd let him go
out of all. I'm like, dude, quarterbacks don't grow on trees.
Quarterbacks who I can depend on don't go tree quarterbacks.
I never got to worry about drama. Don't grow on trees.
Who shows me he can win a game, because that's
what he did against the Lions in that NFC championship,
and he came back and he led every big first down.
He got it with his legs, with his arm, So
he showed me he can do that in bigs phases
(08:01):
as well. And he's not good, he's not perfect. You
could throw to some games that he wasn't great. No
quarterback is right, and he also was an MVP candidate
the season before last. So to me, it just makes
perfect sense. The money, the timing, the guy, the system
and how you can move forward. You still believe you're
in your window. You only can be in your window
(08:21):
with the quarterback, and you got it. So I think
this is it makes sense. I'm not mad and I'm happy.
I congrats to him a last boy too. What an
amazing story. Literally, your nickname is mister irrelevant now at
the money problems are irrelevant. Nothing's irrelevant now, Yeah you
know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's
one of those things where yeah, it's one of those
racted riches stories. I'm sure I don't know his background,
(08:42):
his backstory, where he came from. I'm sure it's not Raggs,
but when it comes to the bottom of the totem
pole in the NFL, being that guy and working at
your craft and winning the job. That's what the NFL
story is about, right If you wanted to preach it
or tell any young kid out there that they do
have a chance if they do it this way, he
would be the post a child for that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
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Speaker 1 (09:13):
App So this is interesting. I threw this out to
Mike l last hour. If you didn't hear it, go
check out the podcast. We had Mike h as a
guest and we kind of a conversation there. During an
appearance on the Bill Simmons podcast, you got the WNBA commissioner,
Kathy Engelbert, and she had a few things to say.
One of the things she talked about was this, it is.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
A balance, but she's a generational talent. No league is
ever about one player, but in this case, Caitlin brought
tens of millions of new viewers into the w and
there's no denying that impact. Not just in the WNBA,
but the world of sports. Adam and I took all
the time about she's the most popular athlete in America.
But again, you do want to balance it because obviously
it saw what happened with Juju Wattin's you know, getting hurt.
(09:51):
You want to balance making sure that you're also promoting
your other stars, like in Asia Wilson. Yeah, like a
Breanna Stewart and a Fisa Collier. That's why this year
sustaining game, sustained the momentum we had last year and
gain even new new viewers.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
All Right, I'm gonna we're gonna get to that. We're
gonna work in backwards.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
So the first point she made, we're gonna come back
to that talking about the you know, biggest athlete in America.
We'll come back to that in a second. I do
want to have a conversation about sustain and gain. Rob
and I have sat here a few times talking about
his favorite sport in the world, which is a w NBA.
He never misses a game. And for me, I know
that I'm a basketball fan. So I sincerely can look
(10:30):
at you, look at anybody and tell you I actually peak.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I keep it. I'm gonna act like I watch every
game go. I went to the game last year, saw
Kaitlyn Clark came to play the Sparks.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Took my daughters. It was good to see her. She
had a huge shot to put them up five to
pretty much ice the game. It was it was fun.
So I do think there's something that they have an
advantage that I won't say that the NBA doesn't have
in the sense of the NBA obviously is superior right
now as far as ratings and all that and notoriety.
But the fact that you end up knowing their players.
(11:00):
And I was talking about this earlier on the phone
with Rob g Dude, the last two years, you know
more they're the ladies going in the draft going to
the w NBA than you do the players in the
heading two of the NBA. You know Cooper Flagg. That
might be where you can plant your flag. That's about it,
you know what I mean. You might know one or
due that's it. Whereas they're a handful of players coming
(11:23):
from college w into the WNB oh I know her, No,
Page Backer's okay, I know her.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I know her.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
And so what happens is there's some sustainability where you
get into you're like, oh, shoot, there's paging. Oh Juju
was gonna get ready to be coming up right. Oh,
there's Andrew Reese. There's obviously Caitlyn Clark, the FISA Collier.
I mean, you start to know some of these players
because you've seen them. Of course, they had competitive games.
Their tournament has been fun to watch as well. So
I think Cameron Brink being another one obviously yep, and
(11:50):
exactly when she comes back, that's another great one. When
she comes back, Breonna Stewart, so on and so forth.
So I think there is a chance to sustain it
as long as one of the points is they have
to fully embrace it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
Now.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I know you want to make sure you prop it
up everybody, but you have to fully embrace the Caitlin
Clark experience.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And I like it too. Right around nineteen.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
Eighty nine ish, when you start to realize, I this
Michael Jordan, dude, he might be it. So we might
want to go ahead and say, like Mike Kazak and me,
like Mike ballpark hot dogs.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
You might with gatorade.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You want to get everybody going and get it energizer money,
Spike Lee and the Jordans. We're just gonna ride this
train and it's gonna be the high tide that lifts all.
And I think that's to me, they need to fully
embrace it, and by day I mean everyone, players, commissioners, owners, everyone.
I think the only reason there was even push back
(12:48):
to that idea at first was just the way it
was presented to us. I think on the when you
look at it as a brand and you have these
these women who have lay you know, paved the way
he really went to war and won championships and you know,
starting to get deals, and you know, you had Asia
Wilson and that team that was already winning and you know,
and winning championship, not just balling right, and so you know,
(13:11):
to implement somebody who hadn't taken a shot yet in
that league to the lights that she was at. I
think that was the reason that was so much pushback early.
But as far as what you're saying, and it shouldn't
be that way now because she's kind of put herself
in that culture. She's been just one of the women
and she's down with that and she's letting her play
(13:32):
do the talking. Like we can look at her and
say She's a special player. She's deserving of that, and
I think that's part of why it was a little
pushback early on. Here's the thing, though, yeah, I get them.
The immediate pushback should have been on the court.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
What I mean by that is, I don't care if
you Michael Jordan'm Magic Johnson, come step, let's go.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I'm Larry Bird young fellow. We the ones getting these rings.
You ain't did none yet, you did not know you
dropped sixty on us. Yeah, but you ain't winning. So
I that should be and that should consist no matter
what right I'm trying to bust her head to night,
of course. But what happens is and this is why
when Steven A. Smith gets one hundred million dollars, Kelvin
Washington doesn't go, I don't go, oh.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Man, he ain't worth it. He ain't that good.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I'm like great, because now I look at it and
say the barometer like, oh, there's a possibility that you know,
and again, maybe I never get it, but there is
a possibility of that. And what angel Asia Wilson is
absolutely the better player as we sit here and speak today,
without a doubt, was and currently is and we'll see
you up the upcoming year. But I think part of
(14:32):
Caitlyn coming in getting everyone watching, getting everyone talking controversy,
which is good, by the way, right Kevin, we're talking
about it now wall eyes are on. And what happened
was people were staying to your point, hey what about Asia?
And now Asia Wilson's shoes sold out in five minutes
to the two, and that we were looking to maybe
consider against.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Some of my daughters. Oh they're gone house even going. Man,
they got a size ten.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't know what that is, and females that is
like twelve, and women's I don't know what it is,
but I might have to get some and they so out.
My point is it's because of how great Asia is,
first and foremost. But now hey, we got all eyes on.
People are having conversations. They're saying we need to highlight
and you know, maybe we do need to continue the
highlight of the players.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
And I just think it all helps, is what I'm saying.
People are watching.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
So the other part of that, again she said, was
Kaylor Clark is the biggest UH sports figure in America.
Stop second, age, Ken, I'm not even letting you get
to that point. Let me go First, this is the problem,
and this is why there is so much heat when
it comes to these type of topics. Right, let's just
(15:36):
say she's she's the best woman's player out there, and
she's the most popular. Why do you have to compare it?
The two aren't the same. The NBA has always been
the more popular. And even if you talk about outside
of basketball, you talking about football, she's not more popular
than Tom Brady or I know he's not currently planning it.
She's not more popular than Patrick Mahomes. Like that's not
(15:57):
that part doesn't matter though, Like why are we to compare?
And that's that's why I get upset. Just let her
before I'm tired. Stop signing, red light, stop sign yield everything.
You hit me with all of it. But okay, I
will say this, Yeah, what's the biggest sport in America?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
The biggest sport in America? The NFL agreed obviously, Doug.
I don't think you can name me three players that
are bigger than her outside I'll.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Give you two, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. I don't think
Lamar Jackson is more popular than her. What I think
Lamar Jackson is more popular in her for guys who
people who are football people. But to broader America, if
I just took America as a whole, whether you're a
football fan, nonfolk, just to just what if I just
pulled up on people, I think more and I showed
you a picture of them, I think more people would
(16:48):
know Caitlyn Clark than they would Lamar Jacks, Lamar, I'll say, okay,
take out Lamar. Patrick Mahomes, No, you keep him in there.
That's what you feel, Lebron James Curry like about sport.
You right, I don't think you can get past four
or five. But that's but that point is at least
is been debatable, meaning all right, if I'm up in five,
(17:11):
it ain't like she's fifteen. No, Lebron Steph, I'm completely
Patrick Mahomes completely agree.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I didn't think about this one. So I gotta give
credit to Rob g. Robb g. This is me giving
you credit.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
I wanted to still it Aaron Rodgers because I just
think he's been around so long and just everybody kind
of knows him. Yeah, outside of that, I mean no,
I think he's really popularing great, So this isn't like
a bashing of that at all. I don't think there's
a baseball player, No, no baseball that is more popular, Oh, Tony, Nope,
you'll think globally what she said in America?
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Did it? She did right, rob G. She said America.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
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Speaker 1 (18:00):
So, KD, you have Emmanuel Aucho on his show, and
I'm trying to paraphrase, do we want to go back
to son Rober you want to be a paraphrase? Well, paraphrase,
so Aucho basically says, Hey, I think the Celtics are
a better team, not a better team, but they fight harder,
They take the presence, the essence of that leader at
(18:21):
Jalen Brown, tougher, going to the whole more than tATu,
who's more soft spoken, more chill, kind of a more
reserved and gonna shoot a lot of threes.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
That was essentially what he's saying, paraphrasing.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
KD jumps on Twitter and he just basically says, I
actually want to pull it up to make sure I
get it correct, all right, read it for me, rodjer
I want to make sure. I want to quot because
his part is the most important. He says, hot take
artists have ruined the sport football guys. No disrespect Carrie
for y'all. Boys need to stay in your lanes. You
don't know what it's like in between these lines. Give
it a.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Break, which is not true.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
But go ahead, go ahead, Kelvin so I said at
that time, all right, first of all, well, actually I'm
gonna get to the double down. Alto comes back today
because obviously that happened after his show, He's had his
opportunity to say something essentially, but he took them shot
to Katie and he says, look, you might have struck
a corps because you weren't the leader. As matter of fact,
(19:14):
twenty seventeen, you said in the publication that, oh.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
I don't want to lead. I'm not that kind of leader.
I don't like having people behind me.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
He said, you whenever you try to drive the bus,
the bus crashed, but you hopped on the bus.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And the Warriors won. I mean, he was calling him out.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Kd Ryan Clark says something as well, man, so you're
trying to you know, guys will have to stick to
the sport they know, And Katie said, y'all taking it
too seriously. All I was trying to say is y'all
don't know what it's like to walk in the shoes,
to be an NBA play with so on and so forth.
So here here's my thing, Katie. So many things, by
the way, you're trying to be brief. Number one, Katie
(19:48):
talks about football all the time. He's a big time
commander fans, right. He talks about it to the tune
of jumping on with Kay Adams weekly FanDuel to talk
about what football often. That's right, which is perfectly kad
grew up. Guess where he went a lot? Probably I
would imagine a barbershop.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know what you do.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Soon as you walk in, man so and so way
better than him, so and so, smoke him and you
have conversations. Doesn't matter if you were a barber, if
you were insurance salesman, a dope boy, it didn't matter.
You had an opinion on something, and so so did
Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant always has an opinion on music,
you know what I mean? Like, we all do these things.
So I can't be a movie blogger or I can't
(20:26):
be a movie film critic if I never made a film.
I can't write for Bloomberg or Wall Street Journal if
I don't run a business myself like this, These things happened,
and the idea is to say as if they haven't
done the research, to homework to be great analysts as yourself,
and you know others do who played football. And also
my biggest point, Kevin Durant likes to throw his nose
(20:49):
and everything, so much so that he had a burner
account carried because he wanted to have an opinion here opinionaire.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Opinionaire called them out getting the comment section. And lastly,
a man you also has a nice right done well
for himself, doing well, doing well. Yeah, guess what made
this bigger.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
When you jumped in and gave your opinion, Kevin Durant,
you made it a thing. It would have been on
the show, died off the show, nobody would have talked
about it a game. But when you, Kevin Durant, jumped
out made it bigger. Now it's on this show. Ryan
Clark's jumping in, Evaniel's got to come back the next day.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
And Carrie Roads and Kelvin Washington are talking about right now,
A couple, Right, So I'm just blown away by that.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, No, the KD thing here, man, It's obviously he
only speaks about things that he wanted to speak he
wants to speak about, right. There are plenty of topics
and plenty of things that go over that are hot
takes and hot take culture, and he doesn't respond to.
When it comes to the NBA, he thinks it's a
sacred place and it's a place that you know, only
a few can can can say they've done, which is true.
(21:46):
But most of these players and most of us guys
that have played sports at a certain point in time,
also played basketball, right, so we understand how to play basketball.
We understand what what happens, what needs to happen for
a team to win, because most sports, I would say
every sport, if you're a leader, you know, if you
don't have a leader that's an emotional leader that can
(22:07):
get you to a place of being more physical or
being having a different approach to the game in a game,
in any specific game, then that team isn't gonna win.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
There is truth to that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now, to say that somebody's better and when somebody's there
or not there, that's an opinion. You don't have to
take that energy or that statement with any validity. That's
a true thing, and you don't have to go back
at it and say you don't know, I know better
because I do it. That's not always the case. And
so for me, it's just that like when you give
(22:39):
somebody a platform to actually what you just said. When
KD jumped on, that's when it was a real thing,
that's true. Like that, that's the part that throws me
off in any of these conversations. We don't have to
let anybody say anything and have any effect on us
in any way.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
That's just their thing, Carrie, what I know.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
It wasn't about his brother, his mother, or his other
It was about Jason Tatum. It wasn't even about say.
It was about Steph and that's my guy, right, we
played it. It was about Russ that's my brother. I
played with him, Jason Tatum and it wasn't a hot take.
Jylen Brown was taking it to the right, being more
physical and he was saying maybe they want to you know,
and then they show a video of him like what
(23:21):
the timeout they were? He was getting everybody up high
five of them gett him going. It wasn't a crazy take.
You might not agree, but it was always like he
was like, Jason Tatum is not even a top fifty
player in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Right, Kevin. I'm gonna say this though, because he even
said Tatum is the better player.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Yes, but I don't I don't agree with this with
a Cho's take at all. I just don't like that
KD jumps into these things and says that somebody's not
qualified to do it because he's not the person to
say that yet.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
And that's Joe everything.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And he even took a dig oh talking about toughness
from a guy that would quit the NFL early to
do media dang.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Kde Mike, and I don't even act like I'm like
Aucho's my god.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I don't even know him, but I'm saying but that
was to take the personal dig when he was talking
about Jason Tatum and already said he's the better player
and he's a great player. I was genuinely shocked that
that affected Kadi that much.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
If he was saying.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
Kevin Durant is not the top fifteen because he jumped
on the bus with the war. Okay, I defend yourself. Hey,
I was the best player in that team. I'm cool
with that. But that was the take that got you
ribbed up to the tune of everybody jumping in and
now you're trying to no, I wasn't even that serious.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No, I'll do that. We got to know the history here.
That's what I asked, g didn't I said, am I
missing something to him?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
And out you have issues because don't now backtrack and
say it wasn't even that serious when you took a
personal shot at him. You said football players who quit
early to do media.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
But then it'd be like, oh, it's not that serious.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Same dude again, that has burner accounts to just jump
into everything, jump in this comment section.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Jump dude, this is what you do as well.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And it's so that's okay if you choose a that
and the idea again that because you didn't play that sport,
you can't talk about it. And I would even argue,
and this is coming from a guy who did not
play professionally, I would argue that a lot of the
principles are the same. The work ethic, yes, the camaraderie.
It takes the ability to follow leadership with coaching or
maybe you're just the leader of the team. You know,
(25:19):
some guys have to just absolutely being able to compartmentalize.
Moms sick. But I gotta go drop thirty or I
gotta go throw for three hundred, or I got to
go deflect four passes and make six tackles.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Like, there's a lot of the principles that apply.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
So I believe yourself can have a conversation about being
a professional. Now, do you know what it's like to
maybe crossover span over a euro step to the you know,
maybe not, I mean not saying you can't do that, brother,
Maybe you're giving them buckets.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
To the YNCA.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
I'm getting I'm giving buckets, yeah for sure, but you
get what I mean, Like the idea that you can
never and again just to give out. It wasn't as
if he was just questioning Tatum's talent or heart. I'm
just blown away by that that that would be the thing. Yeah,
I just blew me away. Yeah, I agree with you.
I'm wholeheartily on the Hey, d should just he should
just let that one go. And for him to say
that somebody's not qualified to talk about something when you've
(26:08):
been hired to talk about that. When he talks about
music all the time, or he talks about football all
the time. We all talk about it. That's the best
part about life. We all have the things we're into, right,
And that's his job. If he wasn't qualified to do it,
he wouldn't be doing it. And by the way, for
a lot of athletes who get mad at people who
do this stuff, I get it now in current day
because we have you all have your own outlets, right,
You got my own. That's why I do my own podcast.
(26:28):
I got my own Twitter, kind of got my own.
I got to Snapchat, Twit, talk, TikTok. You do realize
a lot of what made sports popular is sports media, right,
is also having these conversations given the shows, and if
you don't think inside the NBA had something to do
with helping the game and people being a part of it.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I'm not saying it was singularly.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
I obviously, at the end of the day, the games
have to be good in the sports, But I'm saying
read it, dude. There are times you couldn't see a
game you just had to read about it, right sports, Right,
you know what I'm saying, You couldn't you had to
hear it on the radio. You had to hear the
sports journalist who was on the weekends, and like, how
much and how much time do we spend having sports
to bait with our friends.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You go to a bar, you're having the wings and
the beer, you.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Talk about Oh man, you're crazy, Muhammad, I leave it
to get smoked by Floyd Mayweather.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
He was the same way. That's the better. That's a
fun part. So the idea that he can't do that,
or we can't express our opinions from a guy again
who does nothing but that regularly. One, two, three, can't
coon relaxing, can't coon? They get off the.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Phone man, And it's not new, and this is this
isn't new, Like hot takes have been here for the past.
That one year that was a lukewarm one shoot. But
somebody could be a hot tape, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (27:34):
A hot tag?
Speaker 1 (27:35):
He said, No, I get they're better off without Jason Tatum.
They don't ever need Jason Tatum again. As matter of fact,
he's not even a top twenty five player. That's a
hot task. Yeah, he said, he's the better player. He's
the better he's a great player. He's the better player
on top five Sox seers in the league. But I
just saw from a leadership standpoint, I thought they responded
to him better. Yeah, got me over here. Like I know, Acho,
(27:56):
I say, you're defending them.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Hey, hold up, all right, ain't know Johnny Cocker going
on right now.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I'm just simply saying, that's the second time being a lawyer.
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