May 20, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it wouldn’t be a ‘choke job’ if the heavily-favored Oklahoma City Thunder don’t wind up winning the championship this season, share their thoughts on the very public (and very personal) beef between Ryan Clark and Robert Griffin III, and debate whether Caitlin Clark or Shohei Ohtani is the more popular athlete in America.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
The NBA Conference Finals are getting kicked off, right, and
we're ready to go OKC in Minnesota. Yeah, and then
tomorrow right the Knicks and the Indiana Pacers and Rob G.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Can you set the table?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Because the OKC Thunder is a young team there, but
the numbers and everything they put up this year, it's
hard to look at them and not think that they
shouldn't be the overwhelming favorites, which they are, right, Robin
and Rob G in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Oh, the overwhelming favorites, and for good reason. According to
Lamar Mitchell BEDMGM, friend of the show, shout out to
Lamar Mitchell everybody over there doing great work. I texted
you guys earlier in the day. This Oklahoma City Thunder
team with no titles, mind, you are according to BEDMGM,
minus won seventy five favorites to win the championship of
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this season. To put into context, the next closest odds
for the number two team is the New York Knicks
at plus four point fifty, which means, according to Vegas,
it's like a forty percent chance more likely that OKC
wins than any other team. Adding more into this, at
(01:43):
some point this week, the expectation is shay Gilgess Alexander
will be announced as the runaway winner for the NBA MVP.
On top of that, in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are we sure about that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Because the Oklahoma City Thunder Because I was sure that
Lamar Jackson, Lamar jacks gonna be the MVP. That worked
out for you. It's a good point, Okay, I'm just
regular all I mean. After he won the first to
All Pro, it was just like, wow, okay, ok C,
somebody trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Set the NBA record for the highest point differential by
any team in the regular season. Yes, including the Steph
KD Warriors, including Jordan's Bulls.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, Jordan's Bulls shouldn't be number one because of the
three point ball, would right you would say?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
With the Warriors?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, like now, all teams should pass that because of that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Less it's a different game.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, twelve point nine points per game, and in the
playoffs it's been more of the same. Another they went
to seven with Denver, but do the first two rounds
the Oklahoma City Thunder are plus one eighty five cumulative score.
For context, they are only forty points behind the Steph
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KD Warriors for the greatest point differential in postseason history. Guys,
when you hear stuff like that, facts not feelings.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Facts would see big facts.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Would it be a choke job if the Thunder don't
get it done? Number one in this series as Minnesota,
but number two at the end of June.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Absolutely not. Reggie Miller is not showing up to the
door with the choke sign.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
And there's a multiple set of reasons why, Rob g
Here's first and foremost, nobody fully expected them to win,
except for maybe them in their room, meaning they weren't
a consensus for everything you just named the record setting franchise,
record setting wins, point differential, MVP likely MVP and SGA.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
There still was a bunch of doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
There still was a bunch of us who went, yeah,
I don't know, I gotta see and a lot of
us felt like they are they gonna earn it, they
gotta bump some bruises. Can they do this? And so
to me, you can't be a choke job when we
didn't expect you to win. And again, there are people
who probably picked them, but they weren't a consensus. This
isn't a k with the Warriors. This isn't a Michael
Jordan ninety six seven eight Bulls if they lost to
(04:05):
the Jets, like, oh, what a choke job. This is
not that where it was a given. And this ain't
the same NBA seven years now running. We're gonna have
a different champion. So this isn't where we had a Bohemith.
This isn't Shaq and Kobe losing to the Nets Mack
and O two or something like that. This is not
that or losing to the Pacers earlier. This is not
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that there's no bohemoth, there's no giving and you could
argue a case for all four teams having a chance
to win. So to me, they're fighting to not be
viewed as in Atlanta Hawks when they won sixty games
and had the number one seed in twenty fourteen twenty
fifteen season, or maybe some of those Derek Bulls teams
that were number one seed in the East and Derek
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Rose was an MVP, but they lost in the playoffs
to Lebron because none of us really thought they were
gonna get to the finals. To me, they would be
more like that where yeah, great team record wise, and
they lost, but we didn't expect them to get to
the finals. All of those Hawk teams, allow some of
those Raptor teams with the Martin Rose and all those
Derek Rose Bulls let Bulls led teams.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I know Rob g doesn't believe in it, and he's
ready to give them the Heimlich maneuver and all that
that they could choke. I just young team without experience.
Could they get there and lose?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes? They could.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The second the round against Denver was more reason why
I could question them, and that's because Denver took them
the seven games without another star, like seriously, right, like
let's be honest, right, Murray was heard a little bit, right, Gordon,
and they it took them seven and I know they
blew them out so you feel better about it, But
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it was a seven game series, the one like they rolled
over Denver, Denver fired as coach. You could have looked
at a couple things and said, they held down the
joker two games, right, So so you could have looked
at it and said, wow, that that that they should
be there. I think that the expectations should be there.
(06:11):
But it wouldn't be a choke job if say, uh,
the Knicks just say I'm just throwing it out, Say
the Knicks with the Brunton who's won two college championships,
and kat and and mckel bridges and they like the
whole Okay, but you know what I'm saying, right, uh,
And and that that team that has been through that
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journey and has won a national championship, as you said
a couple of times with a couple of those guys
could come in and win and and win this thing.
And then you would look and say, Okay, it wasn't
their time the first time, but but that they're close
and that they could get there. So I wouldn't look
at it like that now, you know, I mean, what
do we see when Lebron went to his first championship
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and they got swept if you remember right by San Antonio,
Lebron got swept. I'm not saying that this team is
gonna get swept. I think they're better, yeah, obviously, and defensively,
when you have a defense like that, the number one rated,
you're gonna be in a lot of games and you
have a chance to win most games.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So there's a lot of stuff on the plus side,
rob g. But I choke.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No. I could say if they lose, they weren't fully ready,
not ready for prime time, a little green. But for
a team that's mostly made up of young players and
in this position for the first time, I wouldn't call
it a choke.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Average, the average age is twenty four plus on that team,
the youngest team in the league, and there are college
teams in March Madness that were older than them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Literally.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
First of all, there's some March Madness teams that I
swear went to high school with me. At least you
robbed you. I got some years on you. At least
you They gotta quit playing. I know with some dudes
that I know, I knew a few DeVante's, I'm like, now,
that was Avante for Fifth Street. But this team, to me,
is not built up for the ideal of choking. Now,
can you choke if you're up three to nothing, can
lose a series up three to one and lose a series,
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that would be a choke job. But the idea of
them not going to the finals, No, I don't think
anybody would other than themselves. Who I'm sure they man
with our season, it's our time, Sure they believe it.
Nobody would be shore at this rate, these four teams.
There's not a single team that I'm blown away wins.
I think your choke job can only happen when you
have had the sustained sex sustained success. You could argue
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the Celtics was more of a choke job this season.
You guys have been to a final recent well, and
the two twenty point losses that to twenty point losses
at home. About the reigning finals, MVP, you got one
of the best players in Tatum. You guys have just
won the finals. That to me is more of a
choke job than if OKC were to go down to
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this and this.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Since they were they were able to build those leads.
It's not like the Knicks came in and exactly dominating
the games and you lost. So to me, that would
be a choke job. You gotta have sustained success. So again,
if the Dodgers somehow, you know, we're playing some I
can't even.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Think who's the low right now? The low team in
there right now, and you know it just and you'd
be like, oh, they're prohibited favor. Let's go to Mariners,
prohibited favor. Like then you'd be like, oh, wow, the
Yankees somehow playing the Rockies, you know what I mean,
you'd be like, oh, prohibited okay, And that would be
a choke job. If you go again a Stephen kd
(09:22):
lose to those Toronto Raptors without the de Rozan, not
the Kuhi's, that would be a choke job.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So you're buying into the choke job if they don't
get there.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Right Yeah, And I think you guys kind of made
my point for me, because, as you mentioned, there is
no season grizzled veteran left in this final.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Wait a minute, but there are Just let me say
this one thing and then I want to hear your point.
Two teams went to the conference finals a year ago.
You know, we talked about steps.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
In the NBA. Indiana was there they lost? Timberwolves were
there they lost?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Like this might be uh, a man's natural step, you know,
what I mean, and then boom, here's his other chance.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So this might be a second chance, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Sure, And that's historically how it happen, So you would
say if you wanted to play that game. OKC losing
last year was in Game seven. I think to Dallas
that was their stepping stone. They had to take their
loss before they could win. But there is no grizzled
veteran champion in their way. And the biggest thing is
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all of the teams that we would have said coming
into the playoffs are legitimate Inner Circle contenders have been eliminated.
Cleveland's gone, Boston's gone in the East. In the Western Conference,
nobody took Houston seriously, so it was Luca Lebron and
the Lakers. Jogic is gone and on an outside chance,
(10:50):
Stephan the Warriors. Who's left. You have to get through
an unproven Minnesota team with Anthony Edwards who has only
been in the playoffs once in his career. And in
the Eastern Conference you're going to the most recent champion
was in the seventies. Like, everybody is playing on the
same level playing field. So when you factor that in,
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how do you not say the team with the best
point differential regular season all time on pace to be
the best best point differential in the postseason all time,
the runaway MVP and you have home court advantage.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'll tell you why, Roger. You bring up great points.
All those points are excellent, but you don't if.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
You don't have a strong two I like Jaylen Williams
think he's a year two away if you don't have
Shaq and Kobe, Kyrie, Lebron, Kevin Durant, Steph Meaning just
Sga does not make just having him alone does not make.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It a choke Look at look at the Joker without
like seriously and that wasn't a choke job then right,
because he is the best player. But I'm just saying,
like you look at it and go man, if they
had a really good like.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
If I pair it up Joker to your point, and
I'm pairing Joker up with Giannis.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And a load, be ridiculous, that would I disagree.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think if Giannis was in the final four and
this was the rest of the quartet, you guys will say,
if you don't get it done, it's a joke.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
So I don't know why he won before because Sga
is just now arriving.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hey yo am I in the party. He been All
NBA First Team for like tight years. He just got
to the conference finals.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Giannis has been in the VIP behind the velvet rope
hold of sampagne.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
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Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
As we talked about earlier this week, that take foul
that Caitlyn Clark did on Angel Reese the other day
has inspired thousands of think pieces on podcast, radio, television,
printed word, what have you, and now it's led to
a very public and a very personal spat between two
former NFL players are currently in the media or to
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get that work together. At one point at ESPN, it
all started when Archie three, longtime nemesis of reportedly of
Rob park even though it thought pretty one sided at
this point, RG three put out a tweet saying, I
know what hatred looks like. Angel Reese hates Kaitlin Clark.
Not basketball rivalry, hate, real hate, and then he later
(13:19):
posted a video elaborating on that tweet with his wife
sitting in the background. For these who don't know, Yes,
for those who don't know, RG three, of course is black.
His wife is white. That's the big part of the
story here. Flash forward. The next day, a video comes
out from Ryan Clark on his Pivot podcast where he
goes on a whole soliloquy about the incident itself and
(13:42):
about Archie Three's video, where he says in it at
one point, quote the one thing we know about RG
three is he's not having conversations at his home about
what black women have to endure in this country, about
what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have
had to deal with being on the opposite side of
Caitlin Clark's rise. That, of course least RG three putting
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out his own tweets getting really upset saying that there's
a line you don't cross in life, and Ryan Clark
sprinted past it. Didn't like my take, Angel Reese, so
we brought up my wife and her skin color, obviously
crossing a line. Ryan Clark is not gonna take that
line down though, either, oh ma, because then he responds
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and this made it the obviously the most personal attack
of all.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Bruh, you know what, it is with me and you.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I saved you the entire season winning a football home
back at ESPN. I urge people to let you be you,
no matter how corny, how bad of a teammate you were.
I had your back.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
What did you do?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Invite someone on your show? You know what I'm fool with,
ask questions about me, and they hit me weeks later
to tell me you're going to challenge one of my takes.
You're a phony, bro, one of the worst teammates I
ever had, both on the field and in TV. You
gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
M hm, Calvin.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then your chimed in as well, But I've actually
missed that. So what happened with Rob g Did you
see Marcellus Why?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Marcellus Wiley chimed in as well as a few other
retired NFL players Bellby.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
On Bell was one of them. I believe Ryan was
one of them this time.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
But just kind of threw a whole grenade in the
whole thing because we thought it was just between these
two guys, and obviously it got personal.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
But according to Marcellus Wiley Levy, I'm balance some others.
What makes this whole thing even more wise? Yes, is
that Ryan Clark who was standing up for black women
everywhere and taking you know from RCHI three says shots
at his white wife, Ryan Clark. One of his baby
mamas is white.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So that was the like the bombshell. That was a
bombshell that is confirmed.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Its not been confirmed, but this has been There's several
NFL players who are speaking of it.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
If it's fact, all right here with a hold up,
hold up, because I do it right now.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Hold up.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
That's a it's a little hold up there. There's a
lot of stuff there, a lot you go. You go first, Rockchester,
I might get, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna take it
to the Abyss.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I might have to get a little deep. Yeah, I
might have to go a little deep. So you go first.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I just think, Yeah, this is this is not even
angel And and Caitlin anymore. This is like this says
they have some other underlying thing. And the whole thing
is people can have differing opinions.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you sure you're allowed to have that? In twenty
twenty five the people do they know that? I still
think to me, you can have a differing opinion. Everybody
doesn't have to be a lockstep and all be on
the same page. We wouldn't have a radio show if
me and you were here today, seriously, and everything I
said you agreed with, we'd probably be off the air
(16:50):
by now, okay, because uh, you want to hear a
different side of the story. If we agree, we don't
fake it. If we agree we agreed on something earlier,
we just we agreed on Okay, See, we agree on it. Okay,
We're not gonna fake it just to make a radio
show and make you believe that we both have different
opinions on everything. But this is definitely across the line
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of being personal. And I think that's where the issue
comes in for RG three, who I of course have
a history with, you know, and I still can't believe
thirteen if you would have told me thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Years ago that when I left my suit and my bag.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
In the conference room for first take in twenty twelve,
we had already done this show, like prepared the ten topics.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I went back in to get my bag and my
suit to go over to do research in the other building,
and Skip and the producer were like, Hey, we really
want to do this topic with RG three, and you know,
can you do this? What would be my reason to
say no, I didn't come up with it. I wasn't
rogue on the broadcast, and nobody knew they had the
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lower third set up.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't a rogue
thing at all.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And that's the thing that made me feel comfortable enough
to even go out and do that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I've been in a million.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You know this, you do production meetings, Rob Ge, a
million production meetings. I've been in where I might say
some funny joke in a production meeting and they go, Rob,
don't say that in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Don't say that on the air. You know what I mean? Yep,
when I said what I said, there was none of that.
There was nobody put their hands up. Oh my god,
please don't say that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Oh god, nothing cause I didn't think if you would
have told me back then, thirteen years ago, that that
term would still be used and still be relevant and
people attached. I can't you tell me I'm trending Like
every so often, friends are just sending me stuff going, dude,
your name is everywhere in every comment on Twitter. It's
(19:01):
mind boggling to me. So I look at it. I
think you try to avoid being personal. You do, but
this is a personal few. This is not a sports debate,
all right.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
The reason why this one disappoints me is because it's
something that I didn't think had to be. And one
of the things we don't need any more of is
more and more brothers coming at more and more brothers,
and the concept that all brothers have to think alike
and all brothers have to be a monolith. Number One,
this got way too personal, way too You start bringing
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up people wise, I don't care if she black, white, Hindu, Christian.
You start bringing up people wives. We've gotten to way
too casual. We're bringing up people's wives and for somebody,
for people who know and who are about that life,
women and children off guards. Did I miss something when
that changed? Because people are bringing wives and children up
way too casually, and dudes are getting way too cute
(19:56):
on social media. I'm gonna leave that at that. Clout
is the new currency. Cloud is the new currency. And
everybody wants to be cute and funny and like to
have to think pieces, as Rob G said, And everybody
wants to make sure everybody knows they're down for the
calls or make sure this is my point of view.
You don't have to jump into every argument to prove
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that you were down with the culture. You don't have
to jump into everything to prove that you are you
got boots on the ground and making a change in
your community.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And one of the things I've learned from being.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
In this business long enough, Kelvin Washington, don't have to
jump into everything. And that doesn't mean that I don't care,
And that doesn't mean that I'm not doing things in
my community and to help change things. And what I
say that because people are jumping in and making it
as if I don't speak up, then I don't care
about set calls. If I don't speak up about this,
then I'm not a real one. And I just can't
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believe we got these guys, guys, grown men, going at
each other Twitter fingers. I just didn't think we would
get to this point. Now, tying us back into Caitlin
and Angel Reese, the wa NA enjoys the engagement, enjoys
that people are having these conversations. But this has to
outlast this. And if Angel Rees and Caitlyn Clark are
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the Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, that brings more eyeballs.
Then they have to start getting back to where it's
basketball to keep you glued, because that's what Magic and
Larry did. It involved race, and most things in America
folks are going to involve race. It involved race, and
then it involved coast. You got the East Coast and
the West Coast, and involved style of play blue collar
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versus showtime. But it also involved basketball, good playing basketball
that led to them winning the championship or then winning
the championship. Ultimately, that's what this has to become about
as well, so that you can usherund your Michael Jordan
and take you to the next level like they did
with Juju Watkins, who I believe has that chance.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So you all keeps you going to be better than
Caitlyn Clark basketball wise. Absolutely, I'm talking about it. I
can't see possibly, is what I'm saying. I can't see anybody.
I'm talking about the numbers that cat I really.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Here's why say that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I care why I'll say that if you if I'd
have asked you that nineteen eighty six, you would have
said this magic and nothing gonna ever get bigger than that.
And then you never know. The skinny kid wearing a
chain with his tongue out. You're like, all right, maybe
something different with Jordan. So I say, Juju. She has
real hoop fans, she has dudes, she has women, she
has celebrities.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I don't think she and I'm just some reason why.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The only reason for Caitlyn is because she didn't play
basketball like most you know neither does.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
She doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
She doesn't have that. She's really good. Don't get me wrong,
Jujuy they ain't doing that. Kaitlyn ain't doing juju. No,
but she ain't doing what the logo threes. That's what's separated.
But she can where guys were like what.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I'm noting that novelty aspect of what Caitlan did, and
also that she.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Was because women's basketball. There's been a lot of great
women's basketball players. Hear me, hear but that's but that's
why I never got there.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But she may not be. I just do.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
What I'm saying is if I'm the w NBA, this
is how I view it. She can be we see
what's coming. Juju is huge. She's every every ten minutes,
there's a Juju commercial in front of me right here,
and she can be this.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't see what what Caaitlyn did by with the
numbers on the NCAA and and the other.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just think I always say never because you would
have said she never was gonna happen two years before Kaitlyn,
you would have said she's never gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I just don't see if I told you numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Her compounding on top of after Juju a year or
two later, I hear you don't see that.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
All I'm saying, I'm saying there's a big chance because
of hopefully what they're building, what they're creating, right, they're
creating this thing. But to sum it up with me
again going back to those two dudes, I'm just disappointed
at every time they play, everybody has to get on
their soapbox. Everybody has to say this and r G
three one thing I will say, he didn't consider what.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Why does Anger Reese? If you view that she hates Caitlyn,
Why what is going on? That would make because she
doesn't seem like she doesn't.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But why Because I think it's more than just all
she's good at basketball, well, so is Asia Wilson, and
so is Sabrina.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I ain't Osku, so are other people.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I think a part of it is that Angel Reese
is upset that her basketball identity has to be tied
to Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
She's got a massive idea.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You could argue off the court, she's bigger than Caitlyn
Clark as far as pop culture. But basketball wise, I
think there's a frustration shooting.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Five for eighteen. It ain't basketball wise.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Right, But I'm saying I think she's upset that it's
tied to that. But I'm just blown away that the
conversation of women's basketball would lead men, grown men to
going at in a spa and twitter fingering and bringing
people's wives and kids in. I did not think that
we would get here. I thought we would keep it
on the court. And I'm blown away that this is
where we've gotten to, where these two women are hooping
(24:55):
it up and now were going at your mama, this,
your wife for that, your kids that over that, And
I would say I'm disappointed in.
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Speaker 1 (25:14):
Kelvin, I'll let you start on this thing here, because
this will be one of your low points career on
the Odd Couple. Yeah, just be careful. I just want you, okay,
I want you. You know you want to have a
long career here too. Okay, So go ahead, Rob, g
set this up.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So Kelvin, Yeah, yeah, you you while you were where
you were going, we had some conversation, right Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
We already know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I saw the bad take on that, and I was
glad I didn't work that night.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That was obviously a night I wasn't working.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Okay, Well, just to give you a pull the curtain
back on what happened in the Odd Couple group chat,
Rob Parker, of course, you know I'm a reporter, but
anything baseball, Relady, I'm going to make sure you act
like a public relations officer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wait a minute, do I send you story? It could
be about any sport do I put in a group chat?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes? You do?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Okay, So I don't just put baseball, no no, but
core PR.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Eight fifty seven am. Quiet.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Rob Parker sent a screenshot that he took the night
before and eleven to me, and it's a screenshot of
the Sunday night baseball TV ratings Sundays Mets Yankees game
average two point five four million viewers, the most watching
the night baseball broadcast since August of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That's a big number, that's a long that's great for.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Them, twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
The only problem is Also on Sunday, Caitlin Clark and
the Indiana Fever in their season opener against Angel Reese
and the Chicago Sky averaged two point seven million viewers,
peaked at three point one million on ABC, making it
the largest w NBA audience ever on an ESPN network.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That, of course, now wait a minute, was on ABC.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It was, but ESPN and ABC partnership.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It was on over the air television, Rob Parker, No, no,
get to the point, Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know television. I do know.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Television is spectrum cable, the same as one of the
local stations, uh, over the air channels.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
No, you can't say I'll give you that. No, no, no,
you can't be. And I'm just telling you that's true.
But I give you all numbers because more people have
free TV didn't have.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But I'm gonna give you here's the difference.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Go ahead, just gonna make I will concede that more
twenty years ago. You either have cable or you don't
like everybody's watching. There's no such thing as like I
have TV with you have cable, No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Everybody doesn't have and you can access everything now through online.
So watching something on two four seven SUN based off
it's not the same. Also, numbers are not the same
as KNBC and LOSS. I don't care how many people
have cable. Your numbers do not match up with the
local TV station. I'm talking about the raw numbers of
(28:01):
people watching.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, I'm convinced to the surprise, don't be surprised
bringing some numbers, because here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It ain't just saying cable is never even game.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
This is why this is a great conversation for the NBA. Ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The fact that he has to go to the semantics
of it shows how well this is for the w NBA,
that we have to go to the justifications of the
semantic point.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, this is part of the point.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
So we had the conversation that prior to even this
is prior to those numbers. The impetus was the w
NBA commissioner. She came out and she said, Caitlin Clark
is the biggest American sports most popular American athlete right now,
and she later then clarified and said under thirty. But
initially she said that, so U Krrie Rose and I
(28:50):
had the conversation way, I mean, I know she's very
popular and she top five, and so we came to
she's top five. You got Lebron, you got Steph you
have Patrick Mahomes and then I said she's probably four,
and Rob g brought up Aaron Rodgers. So I was like,
all right, Aaron Rodgers right there, and but we had
her in the five and I said, it's interesting that
neither of us are any of us rob either put
(29:10):
a baseball player ahead of her in popularity not obviously,
finances not obviously, and the key part being domestically because
show hey obviously in the continent of Asia is going
crazy with the numbers, but domestically, And that was our point.
And another person called and has brought up one other one,
and I said, oh wow, I would put this person
above all too, maybe even brother Caitlin with someone bios.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I said, oh yeah, that some owe bios for sure,
because I just threw up in my mouth. You don't
think Simon bios. No, I don't go ahead, Hold on,
I don't go ahead. I'm not gonna lie. You can't
say that, can or can't?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
No, you can't, you can't someone's definitely big that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
No, I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I mean, you agree with me that you cannot tell
me Simone Biles is not bigger than anyone you'd like
to name an MLB. And it's not even a knock
on MLB as much as it's a compliment to to
how big.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
That is the point.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Okay, your point that Caitlin Clark when we were having
a conversation, and it wasn't But.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
This is typical. Okay, this is prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
She's in the Okay, but she's in the league that
averages nine thousand people, nine thousand and Yes, all the
numbers are great this this time around for her first
year because they were so lousy. They didn't go up
a thousand percent. They went up forty eight percent. Attendance
forty eight When she plays at home or when she goes,
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she doesn't sell out every game that she plays at
at home.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do they sell out? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Just still in the league that has five and six
thousand people the league. No, But I'm talking about her.
This is this is what I'm trying to tell you
is the league was so bad that her influence. You
think that everybody in America is watching a w NBA
or looking at Caitlin Clark and the numbers are astronomical,
(31:02):
They're not. There were even some games in the NCAA
tournament we talked about where the women's game had very
similar numbers. Got she bested them, but they were very similar.
So it's not like it was off the charts or whatever.
And when you talk about show Hey, yes, internationally, but
you cannot discount him nationally. And what Joe Theisman, an
(31:26):
NFL MVP, just talked about is true. We're watching something
we've never seen. There's no way Caitlyn Clark is bigger
than shoe Hail Tani internationally or nationally. There's no way
that Caitlyn Clark is bigger than Aaron Judge. I don't
care that he hasn't won a championship. There's no way.
(31:48):
When you talk about the sales, the ticket sales at
Yankee Stadium, his jersey sales, the numbers. When you talk
about baseball, you always look at the same thing. Well,
the National Game of one sixty two. They played forty
WNBA games and still forty four zero compared to one
(32:09):
sixty two. It's like when people judge a Major League
Baseball game against an NFL game, Well, if baseball had
sixteen or seventeen games, not one sixty two. If I
don't watch Tuesday night's Dodger game, I know I can
watch Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I know I can watch Thursday. If there were.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Sixteen seventeen baseball games a year, you wouldn't be able
to get a Dodger ticket. The reason that the NFL
dropped the blackout rob g. When you were growing up
there were blackouts, right, Why did they drop blackouts? They
can't sell out the stadium. They can't. They used to
have an eighty five percent You grew up in Detroit
who used to have to buy the ticket so that
(32:48):
we could see.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
The Lions games at Van am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thing?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Used to have to buy the tickets because they couldn't
sell out the stadium. And my point is sometimes I
think people get caught up when you look at Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
They sell seventy three million tickets. This is not people.
You gotta buy tickets, go to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You got seventy three million during the summer, when there's
a million things to go and do. When you talk
about the NFL, you have a captive audience. It's wintertime.
Where we going. Let me see, do I want to
go to church or do I want to stay home
and watch football?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
What are my options in the summer.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I have so many different, so many different options to
go see and do in the summer, and they still draw.
It's unbelievable. We've seen these record numbers April and May.
It's not even the best weather of the year, the
best time to go to baseball.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I just don't think are you done? Yeah, I'm not done.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But I'm just gonna tell you the idea that she's
bigger than show hal Tany is laughable.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Said attendance, going to show him Listen, I just said
that I don't disagree that people sell out Dodger State
and people sell out Yankee's saying, you're right. Aaron Judge
can walk around so much of America and a lot
of people wouldn't know who he is, and that's.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Just a cop.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
That's he's six foot eight, Aaron Gordon. They would think
that was Aaron Gordon. Rob Rob nobody's questioning nobody. You're
taking it personal on it as an insult on base It's.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
An insult period. Judge is a star, but you can
substitute him.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, Mike Trout, you can substitute him with Bryce Opera.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You can't baseball, Simply, no, you can.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It is a truth when when you talk about White
King and everybody knows who she is if walking by, no,
they don't.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Her minions know.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Rob Literally the last two to three years, everyone knows
who she is. Because of the controversy, you got grown
men arguing about her.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Argument is not even about her. They would argue plenty
about her, and so they go past it. But you
got people arguing about her. You got people who never
used to watch watching I'm not questioning this. Baseball have
a fan base, That's not the argument. Does baseball have loyalists?
Does baseball enjoyable? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
The question simply was right now we're talking about the
most popular athletes in America. I don't think a single
baseball player is larger than obviously Lebron Obviously, Steph.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You say obviously obviously. Can it sound crazy? You went
to spring training and you saw the crowds to go
show hal Tani?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Did you not?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I just told you, But you're saying most of them
came from No, they did not?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Would you stop?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You're gonna say they came from Japan? Rob I literally
did stories on it. A lot of the people came.
Everybody came.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
They flew in from Japan, and there were literally, like,
I'm asking you, how many passports did you check?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Come on, Calvin, I literally interview people.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I mean, how are you kidding me? How many did
you interview? And they all came from Japan? Now, how
did they speak to you?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
You don't want to talk to me? Okay, they have
an interpreter. Actually, literally some people did what are you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Man? You did? You're kidding yourself? How much everybody was there? See?
This is the word.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Now you're making it personal because now you're saying as
if I wasn't there and talking to people.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't believe that everybody was the percentage I'm asking.
I'm not American.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I know a lot of people literally telling us all
these signs I came from Japan?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
How many? How many? How many people? Did you see?
What the sign said? I came from one hundred and
forty people? There?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You do realize there's not a lot of people there.
It's just instead of there being twenty, there were one
hundred and twenty rob spring training people there to get
ball signed. You acting like it's a thousand people, there
was like one hundred and fifty two hundred, which normally
it's twenty to thirty. So the idea that show Hey
is massive, Yes, especially internationally.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Nobody nobody arguing that.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, you're trying to be little him the same. I
guess you walk because you're using the term internationally. It's
not just internationally.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
He is a huge star in this country. But the
conversation is no, he's no. But and that's the count.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Nobody's questioning you're talking about all you're talking about it.
Oh yeah, internationally because the Asian people like him, So yeah,
because you have a whole state.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He's a huge star.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
When the Dodgers go anywhere, they sell out, they're naming
baseball fans. Nobody's questioning if I buy a ticket to
Kendrick Lamar's concert.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Tomorrow, guess who else gonna be there? A bunch of
Kenjack Lamar fans. Rob, duh, duh, you're literally telling me
the people who are going to a baseball stadium.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Why would they not know hal tany That's not what
I'm saying. That's exactly what you if you say that
they don't know you're going to because they said you
see the game, the conversation baseball, that's no, that's the
point of popularity.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
People know Taylor Swift whether they go to a Taylor
Swift concert or not. Faxert true, Robgi, Robgie, have you
ever been to a Taylor Swift concert?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Negative?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Do you know who Taylor Swift is? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Ask Kelvin rob G. How many Caitlyn Clark games he's
taken his kids, his wife and kids? S I was
the spark to ask you don't see Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Did you guys literally went and saw her play the
Sparks last season?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
How many asking me questions? When I answer many jerseys?
Have you bought your daughters for Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Who's so they don't have a single jersey of anything
of any sport? She's so popular she is.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
But I don't even understand this is debatable, like you're
making it as if this is an indictment in baseball
is the worst thing, This is just a ridiculous comment baseball.
Baseball has not done a masterful job. You totally within
the sport. I totally disagree.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I just don't think that this is a narrative that
people have been saying about baseball forever.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
They've been saying everybody at some point, Baseball's twenty five
years or thirty. I've been hearing it's not this, it's
but it's extraordinarily region.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's it's it's ridiculous, and that's fine. No, it's not,
and that's fine. And India and the and the Indiana
fever or whatever. Nine Clark, nine thousand people. Clark, nine
thousand people. Okay, I don't even know how this is debatable.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The NBA Conference Finals are getting kicked off, right, and
we're ready to go OKC in Minnesota. Yeah, and then
tomorrow right the Knicks and the Indiana Pacers and Rob G.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Can you set the table?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Because the OKC Thunder is a young team there, but
the numbers and everything they put up this year, it's
hard to look at them and not think that they
shouldn't be the overwhelming favorites, which they are, right, Robin
and Rob G in Vegas.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Oh, the overwhelming favorites, and for good reason. According to
Lamar Mitchell BEDMGM, friend of the show, shout out to
Lamar Mitchell everybody over there doing great work. I texted
you guys earlier in the day. This Oklahoma City Thunder
team with no titles, mind, you are according to BEDMGM,
minus won seventy five favorites to win the championship of
(01:22):
this season. To put into context, the next closest odds
for the number two team is the New York Knicks
at plus four point fifty, which means, according to Vegas,
it's like a forty percent chance more likely that OKC
wins than any other team. Adding more into this, at
(01:43):
some point this week, the expectation is shay Gilgess Alexander
will be announced as the runaway winner for the NBA MVP.
On top of that, in the regular season.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Are we sure about that?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Because the Oklahoma City Thunder Because I was sure that
Lamar Jackson, Lamar jacks gonna be the MVP. That worked
out for you. It's a good point, Okay, I'm just
regular all I mean. After he won the first to
All Pro, it was just like, wow, okay, ok C,
somebody trying to tell you.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Set the NBA record for the highest point differential by
any team in the regular season. Yes, including the Steph
KD Warriors, including Jordan's Bulls.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Well, Jordan's Bulls shouldn't be number one because of the
three point ball, would right you would say?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
With the Warriors?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, like now, all teams should pass that because of that.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Less it's a different game.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, twelve point nine points per game, and in the
playoffs it's been more of the same. Another they went
to seven with Denver, but do the first two rounds
the Oklahoma City Thunder are plus one eighty five cumulative score.
For context, they are only forty points behind the Steph
(02:53):
KD Warriors for the greatest point differential in postseason history. Guys,
when you hear stuff like that, facts not feelings.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Facts would see big facts.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Would it be a choke job if the Thunder don't
get it done? Number one in this series as Minnesota,
but number two at the end of June.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Absolutely not. Reggie Miller is not showing up to the
door with the choke sign.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
No.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
And there's a multiple set of reasons why, Rob g
Here's first and foremost, nobody fully expected them to win,
except for maybe them in their room, meaning they weren't
a consensus for everything you just named the record setting franchise,
record setting wins, point differential, MVP likely MVP and SGA.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
There still was a bunch of doubt.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
There still was a bunch of us who went, yeah,
I don't know, I gotta see and a lot of
us felt like they are they gonna earn it, they
gotta bump some bruises. Can they do this? And so
to me, you can't be a choke job when we
didn't expect you to win. And again, there are people
who probably picked them, but they weren't a consensus. This
isn't a k with the Warriors. This isn't a Michael
Jordan ninety six seven eight Bulls if they lost to
(04:05):
the Jets, like, oh, what a choke job. This is
not that where it was a given. And this ain't
the same NBA seven years now running. We're gonna have
a different champion. So this isn't where we had a Bohemith.
This isn't Shaq and Kobe losing to the Nets Mack
and O two or something like that. This is not
that or losing to the Pacers earlier. This is not
(04:28):
that there's no bohemoth, there's no giving and you could
argue a case for all four teams having a chance
to win. So to me, they're fighting to not be
viewed as in Atlanta Hawks when they won sixty games
and had the number one seed in twenty fourteen twenty
fifteen season, or maybe some of those Derek Bulls teams
that were number one seed in the East and Derek
(04:50):
Rose was an MVP, but they lost in the playoffs
to Lebron because none of us really thought they were
gonna get to the finals. To me, they would be
more like that where yeah, great team record wise, and
they lost, but we didn't expect them to get to
the finals. All of those Hawk teams, allow some of
those Raptor teams with the Martin Rose and all those
Derek Rose Bulls let Bulls led teams.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I know Rob g doesn't believe in it, and he's
ready to give them the Heimlich maneuver and all that
that they could choke. I just young team without experience.
Could they get there and lose?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yes? They could.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
The second the round against Denver was more reason why
I could question them, and that's because Denver took them
the seven games without another star, like seriously, right, like
let's be honest, right, Murray was heard a little bit, right, Gordon,
and they it took them seven and I know they
blew them out so you feel better about it, But
(05:50):
it was a seven game series, the one like they rolled
over Denver, Denver fired as coach. You could have looked
at a couple things and said, they held down the
joker two games, right, So so you could have looked
at it and said, wow, that that that they should
be there. I think that the expectations should be there.
(06:11):
But it wouldn't be a choke job if say, uh,
the Knicks just say I'm just throwing it out, Say
the Knicks with the Brunton who's won two college championships,
and kat and and mckel bridges and they like the
whole Okay, but you know what I'm saying, right, uh,
And and that that team that has been through that
(06:32):
journey and has won a national championship, as you said
a couple of times with a couple of those guys
could come in and win and and win this thing.
And then you would look and say, Okay, it wasn't
their time the first time, but but that they're close
and that they could get there. So I wouldn't look
at it like that now, you know, I mean, what
do we see when Lebron went to his first championship
(06:54):
and they got swept if you remember right by San Antonio,
Lebron got swept. I'm not saying that this team is
gonna get swept. I think they're better, yeah, obviously, and defensively,
when you have a defense like that, the number one rated,
you're gonna be in a lot of games and you
have a chance to win most games.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
So there's a lot of stuff on the plus side,
rob g. But I choke.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
No. I could say if they lose, they weren't fully ready,
not ready for prime time, a little green. But for
a team that's mostly made up of young players and
in this position for the first time, I wouldn't call
it a choke.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
No.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
Average, the average age is twenty four plus on that team,
the youngest team in the league, and there are college
teams in March Madness that were older than them.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Literally.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
First of all, there's some March Madness teams that I
swear went to high school with me. At least you
robbed you. I got some years on you. At least
you They gotta quit playing. I know with some dudes
that I know, I knew a few DeVante's, I'm like, now,
that was Avante for Fifth Street. But this team, to me,
is not built up for the ideal of choking. Now,
can you choke if you're up three to nothing, can
lose a series up three to one and lose a series,
(08:00):
that would be a choke job. But the idea of
them not going to the finals, No, I don't think
anybody would other than themselves. Who I'm sure they man
with our season, it's our time, Sure they believe it.
Nobody would be shore at this rate, these four teams.
There's not a single team that I'm blown away wins.
I think your choke job can only happen when you
have had the sustained sex sustained success. You could argue
(08:23):
the Celtics was more of a choke job this season.
You guys have been to a final recent well, and
the two twenty point losses that to twenty point losses
at home. About the reigning finals, MVP, you got one
of the best players in Tatum. You guys have just
won the finals. That to me is more of a
choke job than if OKC were to go down to
(08:44):
this and this.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Since they were they were able to build those leads.
It's not like the Knicks came in and exactly dominating
the games and you lost. So to me, that would
be a choke job. You gotta have sustained success. So again,
if the Dodgers somehow, you know, we're playing some I
can't even.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Think who's the low right now? The low team in
there right now, and you know it just and you'd
be like, oh, they're prohibited favor. Let's go to Mariners,
prohibited favor. Like then you'd be like, oh, wow, the
Yankees somehow playing the Rockies, you know what I mean,
you'd be like, oh, prohibited okay, And that would be
a choke job. If you go again a Stephen kd
(09:22):
lose to those Toronto Raptors without the de Rozan, not
the Kuhi's, that would be a choke job.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So you're buying into the choke job if they don't
get there.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Right Yeah, And I think you guys kind of made
my point for me, because, as you mentioned, there is
no season grizzled veteran left in this final.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Wait a minute, but there are Just let me say
this one thing and then I want to hear your point.
Two teams went to the conference finals a year ago.
You know, we talked about steps.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
In the NBA. Indiana was there they lost? Timberwolves were
there they lost?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Like this might be uh, a man's natural step, you know,
what I mean, and then boom, here's his other chance.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
So this might be a second chance, but go ahead.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Sure, And that's historically how it happen, So you would
say if you wanted to play that game. OKC losing
last year was in Game seven. I think to Dallas
that was their stepping stone. They had to take their
loss before they could win. But there is no grizzled
veteran champion in their way. And the biggest thing is
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all of the teams that we would have said coming
into the playoffs are legitimate Inner Circle contenders have been eliminated.
Cleveland's gone, Boston's gone in the East. In the Western Conference,
nobody took Houston seriously, so it was Luca Lebron and
the Lakers. Jogic is gone and on an outside chance,
(10:50):
Stephan the Warriors. Who's left. You have to get through
an unproven Minnesota team with Anthony Edwards who has only
been in the playoffs once in his career. And in
the Eastern Conference you're going to the most recent champion
was in the seventies. Like, everybody is playing on the
same level playing field. So when you factor that in,
(11:11):
how do you not say the team with the best
point differential regular season all time on pace to be
the best best point differential in the postseason all time,
the runaway MVP and you have home court advantage.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'll tell you why, Roger. You bring up great points.
All those points are excellent, but you don't if.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
You don't have a strong two I like Jaylen Williams
think he's a year two away if you don't have
Shaq and Kobe, Kyrie, Lebron, Kevin Durant, Steph Meaning just
Sga does not make just having him alone does not make.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
It a choke Look at look at the Joker without
like seriously and that wasn't a choke job then right,
because he is the best player. But I'm just saying,
like you look at it and go man, if they
had a really good like.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
If I pair it up Joker to your point, and
I'm pairing Joker up with Giannis.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And a load, be ridiculous, that would I disagree.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I think if Giannis was in the final four and
this was the rest of the quartet, you guys will say,
if you don't get it done, it's a joke.
Speaker 5 (12:09):
So I don't know why he won before because Sga
is just now arriving.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hey yo am I in the party. He been All
NBA First Team for like tight years. He just got
to the conference finals.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
Giannis has been in the VIP behind the velvet rope
hold of sampagne.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
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Speaker 3 (12:38):
Well.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
As we talked about earlier this week, that take foul
that Caitlyn Clark did on Angel Reese the other day
has inspired thousands of think pieces on podcast, radio, television,
printed word, what have you, and now it's led to
a very public and a very personal spat between two
former NFL players are currently in the media or to
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get that work together. At one point at ESPN, it
all started when Archie three, longtime nemesis of reportedly of
Rob park even though it thought pretty one sided at
this point, RG three put out a tweet saying, I
know what hatred looks like. Angel Reese hates Kaitlin Clark.
Not basketball rivalry, hate, real hate, and then he later
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posted a video elaborating on that tweet with his wife
sitting in the background. For these who don't know, Yes,
for those who don't know, RG three, of course is black.
His wife is white. That's the big part of the
story here. Flash forward. The next day, a video comes
out from Ryan Clark on his Pivot podcast where he
goes on a whole soliloquy about the incident itself and
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about Archie Three's video, where he says in it at
one point, quote the one thing we know about RG
three is he's not having conversations at his home about
what black women have to endure in this country, about
what young black women and athletes like Angel Reese have
had to deal with being on the opposite side of
Caitlin Clark's rise. That, of course least RG three putting
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out his own tweets getting really upset saying that there's
a line you don't cross in life, and Ryan Clark
sprinted past it. Didn't like my take, Angel Reese, so
we brought up my wife and her skin color, obviously
crossing a line. Ryan Clark is not gonna take that
line down though, either, oh ma, because then he responds
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and this made it the obviously the most personal attack
of all.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Bruh, you know what, it is with me and you.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
I saved you the entire season winning a football home
back at ESPN. I urge people to let you be you,
no matter how corny, how bad of a teammate you were.
I had your back.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
What did you do?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
Invite someone on your show? You know what I'm fool with,
ask questions about me, and they hit me weeks later
to tell me you're going to challenge one of my takes.
You're a phony, bro, one of the worst teammates I
ever had, both on the field and in TV. You
gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
M hm, Calvin.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
And then your chimed in as well, But I've actually
missed that. So what happened with Rob g Did you
see Marcellus Why?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Marcellus Wiley chimed in as well as a few other
retired NFL players Bellby.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
On Bell was one of them. I believe Ryan was
one of them this time.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
But just kind of threw a whole grenade in the
whole thing because we thought it was just between these
two guys, and obviously it got personal.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
But according to Marcellus Wiley Levy, I'm balance some others.
What makes this whole thing even more wise? Yes, is
that Ryan Clark who was standing up for black women
everywhere and taking you know from RCHI three says shots
at his white wife, Ryan Clark. One of his baby
mamas is white.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
So that was the like the bombshell. That was a
bombshell that is confirmed.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Its not been confirmed, but this has been There's several
NFL players who are speaking of it.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
If it's fact, all right here with a hold up,
hold up, because I do it right now.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Hold up.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
That's a it's a little hold up there. There's a
lot of stuff there, a lot you go. You go first, Rockchester,
I might get, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna take it
to the Abyss.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I might have to get a little deep. Yeah, I
might have to go a little deep. So you go first.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I just think, Yeah, this is this is not even
angel And and Caitlin anymore. This is like this says
they have some other underlying thing. And the whole thing
is people can have differing opinions.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It's okay.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Are you sure you're allowed to have that? In twenty
twenty five the people do they know that? I still
think to me, you can have a differing opinion. Everybody
doesn't have to be a lockstep and all be on
the same page. We wouldn't have a radio show if
me and you were here today, seriously, and everything I
said you agreed with, we'd probably be off the air
(16:50):
by now, okay, because uh, you want to hear a
different side of the story. If we agree, we don't
fake it. If we agree we agreed on something earlier,
we just we agreed on Okay, See, we agree on it. Okay,
We're not gonna fake it just to make a radio
show and make you believe that we both have different
opinions on everything. But this is definitely across the line
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of being personal. And I think that's where the issue
comes in for RG three, who I of course have
a history with, you know, and I still can't believe
thirteen if you would have told me thirteen.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Years ago that when I left my suit and my bag.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
In the conference room for first take in twenty twelve,
we had already done this show, like prepared the ten topics.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
I went back in to get my bag and my
suit to go over to do research in the other building,
and Skip and the producer were like, Hey, we really
want to do this topic with RG three, and you know,
can you do this? What would be my reason to
say no, I didn't come up with it. I wasn't
rogue on the broadcast, and nobody knew they had the
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lower third set up.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know what I'm saying. Like, it wasn't a rogue
thing at all.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
And that's the thing that made me feel comfortable enough
to even go out and do that.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I've been in a million.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
You know this, you do production meetings, Rob Ge, a
million production meetings. I've been in where I might say
some funny joke in a production meeting and they go, Rob,
don't say that in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Don't say that on the air. You know what I mean? Yep,
when I said what I said, there was none of that.
There was nobody put their hands up. Oh my god,
please don't say that.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Oh god, nothing cause I didn't think if you would
have told me back then, thirteen years ago, that that
term would still be used and still be relevant and
people attached. I can't you tell me I'm trending Like
every so often, friends are just sending me stuff going, dude,
your name is everywhere in every comment on Twitter. It's
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mind boggling to me. So I look at it. I
think you try to avoid being personal. You do, but
this is a personal few. This is not a sports debate,
all right.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
The reason why this one disappoints me is because it's
something that I didn't think had to be. And one
of the things we don't need any more of is
more and more brothers coming at more and more brothers,
and the concept that all brothers have to think alike
and all brothers have to be a monolith. Number One,
this got way too personal, way too You start bringing
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up people wise, I don't care if she black, white, Hindu, Christian.
You start bringing up people wives. We've gotten to way
too casual. We're bringing up people's wives and for somebody,
for people who know and who are about that life,
women and children off guards. Did I miss something when
that changed? Because people are bringing wives and children up
way too casually, and dudes are getting way too cute
(19:56):
on social media. I'm gonna leave that at that. Clout
is the new currency. Cloud is the new currency. And
everybody wants to be cute and funny and like to
have to think pieces, as Rob G said, And everybody
wants to make sure everybody knows they're down for the
calls or make sure this is my point of view.
You don't have to jump into every argument to prove
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that you were down with the culture. You don't have
to jump into everything to prove that you are you
got boots on the ground and making a change in
your community.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
And one of the things I've learned from being.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
In this business long enough, Kelvin Washington, don't have to
jump into everything. And that doesn't mean that I don't care,
And that doesn't mean that I'm not doing things in
my community and to help change things. And what I
say that because people are jumping in and making it
as if I don't speak up, then I don't care
about set calls. If I don't speak up about this,
then I'm not a real one. And I just can't
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believe we got these guys, guys, grown men, going at
each other Twitter fingers. I just didn't think we would
get to this point. Now, tying us back into Caitlin
and Angel Reese, the wa NA enjoys the engagement, enjoys
that people are having these conversations. But this has to
outlast this. And if Angel Rees and Caitlyn Clark are
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the Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, that brings more eyeballs.
Then they have to start getting back to where it's
basketball to keep you glued, because that's what Magic and
Larry did. It involved race, and most things in America
folks are going to involve race. It involved race, and
then it involved coast. You got the East Coast and
the West Coast, and involved style of play blue collar
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versus showtime. But it also involved basketball, good playing basketball
that led to them winning the championship or then winning
the championship. Ultimately, that's what this has to become about
as well, so that you can usherund your Michael Jordan
and take you to the next level like they did
with Juju Watkins, who I believe has that chance.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So you all keeps you going to be better than
Caitlyn Clark basketball wise. Absolutely, I'm talking about it. I
can't see possibly, is what I'm saying. I can't see anybody.
I'm talking about the numbers that cat I really.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Here's why say that.
Speaker 5 (22:00):
I care why I'll say that if you if I'd
have asked you that nineteen eighty six, you would have
said this magic and nothing gonna ever get bigger than that.
And then you never know. The skinny kid wearing a
chain with his tongue out. You're like, all right, maybe
something different with Jordan. So I say, Juju. She has
real hoop fans, she has dudes, she has women, she
has celebrities.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
But I don't think she and I'm just some reason why.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
The only reason for Caitlyn is because she didn't play
basketball like most you know neither does.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
She doesn't.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
She doesn't have that. She's really good. Don't get me wrong,
Jujuy they ain't doing that. Kaitlyn ain't doing juju. No,
but she ain't doing what the logo threes. That's what's separated.
But she can where guys were like what.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
I'm noting that novelty aspect of what Caitlan did, and
also that she.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Was because women's basketball. There's been a lot of great
women's basketball players. Hear me, hear but that's but that's
why I never got there.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
But she may not be. I just do.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
What I'm saying is if I'm the w NBA, this
is how I view it. She can be we see
what's coming. Juju is huge. She's every every ten minutes,
there's a Juju commercial in front of me right here,
and she can be this.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I don't see what what Caaitlyn did by with the
numbers on the NCAA and and the other.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I just think I always say never because you would
have said she never was gonna happen two years before Kaitlyn,
you would have said she's never gonna.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I just don't see if I told you numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Her compounding on top of after Juju a year or
two later, I hear you don't see that.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
All I'm saying, I'm saying there's a big chance because
of hopefully what they're building, what they're creating, right, they're
creating this thing. But to sum it up with me
again going back to those two dudes, I'm just disappointed
at every time they play, everybody has to get on
their soapbox. Everybody has to say this and r G
three one thing I will say, he didn't consider what.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Why does Anger Reese? If you view that she hates Caitlyn,
Why what is going on? That would make because she
doesn't seem like she doesn't.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But why Because I think it's more than just all
she's good at basketball, well, so is Asia Wilson, and
so is Sabrina.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
I ain't Osku, so are other people.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
I think a part of it is that Angel Reese
is upset that her basketball identity has to be tied
to Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
She's got a massive idea.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You could argue off the court, she's bigger than Caitlyn
Clark as far as pop culture. But basketball wise, I
think there's a frustration shooting.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Five for eighteen. It ain't basketball wise.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Right, But I'm saying I think she's upset that it's
tied to that. But I'm just blown away that the
conversation of women's basketball would lead men, grown men to
going at in a spa and twitter fingering and bringing
people's wives and kids in. I did not think that
we would get here. I thought we would keep it
on the court. And I'm blown away that this is
where we've gotten to, where these two women are hooping
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it up and now were going at your mama, this,
your wife for that, your kids that over that, And
I would say I'm disappointed in.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
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Speaker 1 (25:14):
Kelvin, I'll let you start on this thing here, because
this will be one of your low points career on
the Odd Couple. Yeah, just be careful. I just want you, okay,
I want you. You know you want to have a
long career here too. Okay, So go ahead, Rob, g
set this up.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
So Kelvin, Yeah, yeah, you you while you were where
you were going, we had some conversation, right Rob.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
We already know.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I saw the bad take on that, and I was
glad I didn't work that night.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
That was obviously a night I wasn't working.
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Okay, Well, just to give you a pull the curtain
back on what happened in the Odd Couple group chat,
Rob Parker, of course, you know I'm a reporter, but
anything baseball, Relady, I'm going to make sure you act
like a public relations officer.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Wait a minute, do I send you story? It could
be about any sport do I put in a group chat?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yes? You do?
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Okay, So I don't just put baseball, no no, but
core PR.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Eight fifty seven am. Quiet.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Rob Parker sent a screenshot that he took the night
before and eleven to me, and it's a screenshot of
the Sunday night baseball TV ratings Sundays Mets Yankees game
average two point five four million viewers, the most watching
the night baseball broadcast since August of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
That's a big number, that's a long that's great for.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Them, twenty fifteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
The only problem is Also on Sunday, Caitlin Clark and
the Indiana Fever in their season opener against Angel Reese
and the Chicago Sky averaged two point seven million viewers,
peaked at three point one million on ABC, making it
the largest w NBA audience ever on an ESPN network.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That, of course, now wait a minute, was on ABC.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
It was, but ESPN and ABC partnership.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
It was on over the air television, Rob Parker, No, no,
get to the point, Kelvin.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
You know television. I do know.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Television is spectrum cable, the same as one of the
local stations, uh, over the air channels.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
No, you can't say I'll give you that. No, no, no,
you can't be. And I'm just telling you that's true.
But I give you all numbers because more people have
free TV didn't have.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
But I'm gonna give you here's the difference.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
Go ahead, just gonna make I will concede that more
twenty years ago. You either have cable or you don't
like everybody's watching. There's no such thing as like I
have TV with you have cable, No, you don't.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Everybody doesn't have and you can access everything now through online.
So watching something on two four seven SUN based off
it's not the same. Also, numbers are not the same
as KNBC and LOSS. I don't care how many people
have cable. Your numbers do not match up with the
local TV station. I'm talking about the raw numbers of
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people watching.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
All right, I'm convinced to the surprise, don't be surprised
bringing some numbers, because here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
It ain't just saying cable is never even game.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Gee.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
This is why this is a great conversation for the NBA. Ahead.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
The fact that he has to go to the semantics
of it shows how well this is for the w NBA,
that we have to go to the justifications of the
semantic point.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, this is part of the point.
Speaker 5 (28:28):
So we had the conversation that prior to even this
is prior to those numbers. The impetus was the w
NBA commissioner. She came out and she said, Caitlin Clark
is the biggest American sports most popular American athlete right now,
and she later then clarified and said under thirty. But
initially she said that, so U Krrie Rose and I
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had the conversation way, I mean, I know she's very
popular and she top five, and so we came to
she's top five. You got Lebron, you got Steph you
have Patrick Mahomes and then I said she's probably four,
and Rob g brought up Aaron Rodgers. So I was like,
all right, Aaron Rodgers right there, and but we had
her in the five and I said, it's interesting that
neither of us are any of us rob either put
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a baseball player ahead of her in popularity not obviously,
finances not obviously, and the key part being domestically because
show hey obviously in the continent of Asia is going
crazy with the numbers, but domestically, And that was our point.
And another person called and has brought up one other one,
and I said, oh wow, I would put this person
above all too, maybe even brother Caitlin with someone bios.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
I said, oh yeah, that some owe bios for sure,
because I just threw up in my mouth. You don't
think Simon bios. No, I don't go ahead, Hold on,
I don't go ahead. I'm not gonna lie. You can't
say that, can or can't?
Speaker 4 (29:44):
No, you can't, you can't someone's definitely big that.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
No, I'm agreeing with you.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
I mean, you agree with me that you cannot tell
me Simone Biles is not bigger than anyone you'd like
to name an MLB. And it's not even a knock
on MLB as much as it's a compliment to to
how big.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
That is the point.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Okay, your point that Caitlin Clark when we were having
a conversation, and it wasn't But.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
This is typical. Okay, this is prisoner of the moment.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
She's in the Okay, but she's in the league that
averages nine thousand people, nine thousand and Yes, all the
numbers are great this this time around for her first
year because they were so lousy. They didn't go up
a thousand percent. They went up forty eight percent. Attendance
forty eight When she plays at home or when she goes,
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she doesn't sell out every game that she plays at
at home.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Do they sell out? Absolutely?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Just still in the league that has five and six
thousand people the league. No, But I'm talking about her.
This is this is what I'm trying to tell you
is the league was so bad that her influence. You
think that everybody in America is watching a w NBA
or looking at Caitlin Clark and the numbers are astronomical,
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They're not. There were even some games in the NCAA
tournament we talked about where the women's game had very
similar numbers. Got she bested them, but they were very similar.
So it's not like it was off the charts or whatever.
And when you talk about show Hey, yes, internationally, but
you cannot discount him nationally. And what Joe Theisman, an
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NFL MVP, just talked about is true. We're watching something
we've never seen. There's no way Caitlyn Clark is bigger
than shoe Hail Tani internationally or nationally. There's no way
that Caitlyn Clark is bigger than Aaron Judge. I don't
care that he hasn't won a championship. There's no way.
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When you talk about the sales, the ticket sales at
Yankee Stadium, his jersey sales, the numbers. When you talk
about baseball, you always look at the same thing. Well,
the National Game of one sixty two. They played forty
WNBA games and still forty four zero compared to one
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sixty two. It's like when people judge a Major League
Baseball game against an NFL game, Well, if baseball had
sixteen or seventeen games, not one sixty two. If I
don't watch Tuesday night's Dodger game, I know I can
watch Wednesday.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I know I can watch Thursday. If there were.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Sixteen seventeen baseball games a year, you wouldn't be able
to get a Dodger ticket. The reason that the NFL
dropped the blackout rob g. When you were growing up
there were blackouts, right, Why did they drop blackouts? They
can't sell out the stadium. They can't. They used to
have an eighty five percent You grew up in Detroit
who used to have to buy the ticket so that
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we could see.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
The Lions games at Van am I right or wrong?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Thing?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Used to have to buy the tickets because they couldn't
sell out the stadium. And my point is sometimes I
think people get caught up when you look at Major
League Baseball.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
They sell seventy three million tickets. This is not people.
You gotta buy tickets, go to the ballpark.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
You got seventy three million during the summer, when there's
a million things to go and do. When you talk
about the NFL, you have a captive audience. It's wintertime.
Where we going. Let me see, do I want to
go to church or do I want to stay home
and watch football?
Speaker 3 (33:29):
What are my options in the summer.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I have so many different, so many different options to
go see and do in the summer, and they still draw.
It's unbelievable. We've seen these record numbers April and May.
It's not even the best weather of the year, the
best time to go to baseball.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
I just don't think are you done? Yeah, I'm not done.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
But I'm just gonna tell you the idea that she's
bigger than show hal Tany is laughable.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Said attendance, going to show him Listen, I just said
that I don't disagree that people sell out Dodger State
and people sell out Yankee's saying, you're right. Aaron Judge
can walk around so much of America and a lot
of people wouldn't know who he is, and that's.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Just a cop.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
That's he's six foot eight, Aaron Gordon. They would think
that was Aaron Gordon. Rob Rob nobody's questioning nobody. You're
taking it personal on it as an insult on base It's.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
An insult period. Judge is a star, but you can
substitute him.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
No, Mike Trout, you can substitute him with Bryce Opera.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
You can't baseball, Simply, no, you can.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
It is a truth when when you talk about White
King and everybody knows who she is if walking by, no,
they don't.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Her minions know.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
Rob Literally the last two to three years, everyone knows
who she is. Because of the controversy, you got grown
men arguing about her.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Argument is not even about her. They would argue plenty
about her, and so they go past it. But you
got people arguing about her. You got people who never
used to watch watching I'm not questioning this. Baseball have
a fan base, That's not the argument. Does baseball have loyalists?
Does baseball enjoyable? Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (35:22):
The question simply was right now we're talking about the
most popular athletes in America. I don't think a single
baseball player is larger than obviously Lebron Obviously, Steph.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
You say obviously obviously. Can it sound crazy? You went
to spring training and you saw the crowds to go
show hal Tani?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
Did you not?
Speaker 5 (35:42):
I just told you, But you're saying most of them
came from No, they did not?
Speaker 3 (35:46):
Would you stop?
Speaker 5 (35:47):
You're gonna say they came from Japan? Rob I literally
did stories on it. A lot of the people came.
Everybody came.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
They flew in from Japan, and there were literally, like,
I'm asking you, how many passports did you check?
Speaker 3 (36:03):
Come on, Calvin, I literally interview people.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I mean, how are you kidding me? How many did
you interview? And they all came from Japan? Now, how
did they speak to you?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
You don't want to talk to me? Okay, they have
an interpreter. Actually, literally some people did what are you
talking about?
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Man? You did? You're kidding yourself? How much everybody was there? See?
This is the word.
Speaker 5 (36:21):
Now you're making it personal because now you're saying as
if I wasn't there and talking to people.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
I don't believe that everybody was the percentage I'm asking.
I'm not American.
Speaker 5 (36:31):
I know a lot of people literally telling us all
these signs I came from Japan?
Speaker 3 (36:35):
How many? How many? How many people? Did you see?
What the sign said? I came from one hundred and
forty people? There?
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You do realize there's not a lot of people there.
It's just instead of there being twenty, there were one
hundred and twenty rob spring training people there to get
ball signed. You acting like it's a thousand people, there
was like one hundred and fifty two hundred, which normally
it's twenty to thirty. So the idea that show Hey
is massive, Yes, especially internationally.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Nobody nobody arguing that.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
No, you're trying to be little him the same. I
guess you walk because you're using the term internationally. It's
not just internationally.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
He is a huge star in this country. But the
conversation is no, he's no. But and that's the count.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Nobody's questioning you're talking about all you're talking about it.
Oh yeah, internationally because the Asian people like him, So yeah,
because you have a whole state.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He's a huge star.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
When the Dodgers go anywhere, they sell out, they're naming
baseball fans. Nobody's questioning if I buy a ticket to
Kendrick Lamar's concert.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
Tomorrow, guess who else gonna be there? A bunch of
Kenjack Lamar fans. Rob, duh, duh, you're literally telling me
the people who are going to a baseball stadium.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Why would they not know hal tany That's not what
I'm saying. That's exactly what you if you say that
they don't know you're going to because they said you
see the game, the conversation baseball, that's no, that's the
point of popularity.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
People know Taylor Swift whether they go to a Taylor
Swift concert or not. Faxert true, Robgi, Robgie, have you
ever been to a Taylor Swift concert?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
Negative?
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Do you know who Taylor Swift is? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Ask Kelvin rob G. How many Caitlyn Clark games he's
taken his kids, his wife and kids? S I was
the spark to ask you don't see Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Did you guys literally went and saw her play the
Sparks last season?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
How many asking me questions? When I answer many jerseys?
Have you bought your daughters for Caitlyn Clark?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Who's so they don't have a single jersey of anything
of any sport? She's so popular she is.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
But I don't even understand this is debatable, like you're
making it as if this is an indictment in baseball
is the worst thing, This is just a ridiculous comment baseball.
Baseball has not done a masterful job. You totally within
the sport. I totally disagree.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
I just don't think that this is a narrative that
people have been saying about baseball forever.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
They've been saying everybody at some point, Baseball's twenty five
years or thirty. I've been hearing it's not this, it's
but it's extraordinarily region.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
It's it's it's ridiculous, and that's fine. No, it's not,
and that's fine. And India and the and the Indiana
fever or whatever. Nine Clark, nine thousand people. Clark, nine
thousand people. Okay, I don't even know how this is debatable.
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