June 3, 2025 • 31 mins
Rob and Kelvin share their thoughts on the breaking news that the New York Knicks have fired head coach Tom Thibodeau, and get into a heated debate about why Austin Ainge doesn’t get the same ‘nepo baby’ smoke that Bronny James got. Plus, actor/rapper Ice Cube swings by to preview the upcoming BIG 3 season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Couple and welcome into the Odd Couple on this trash
Talking Tuesday. Except for the first time in Odd Couple
history here in seven years, what's that? It is not
a trash talking Tuesday. It's an ass showing Tuesday. Because
I'm gonna be showing my ass at least for the
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first hour of this radio program to my partner, Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why is that? Who? I told you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Over and over that the Knicks did not over at chieve,
that they underachieved, and that Tom Thibodeau deserved to be fired.
And guess what happened today before we came into this
radio show.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What happened? Tom Thibodau got fired. Fired.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
They call me mister Tibbs is now on the unemployment line.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He is a unemployment line. He is updating his LinkedIn page.
That's without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And I tried to tell you this yesterday. We went
on and on and on about this, but we'll get
to this. Do you feel better? How do you feel
after yesterday? You made your case that they were overachievers
and let let's keep it the way it is and
the Knicks just have to keep building?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I always you know, sitting next to me for weeks
that I personally don't like Tom Thibodau.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You've heard me say that for weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But I still believe the Knicks over achieved that and
you can fire Tom Thibodau.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You can fire your achievement. Does that make sense? I'm
just asking you.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm digitally absolutely the next overachieved. If they believe they overachieved,
why would they fire him. There's coaches who are Coach
of the Year who get fired. You know that sports
too long. I want you to acknowledge, absolutely not. I
want you to acknowledge and accept that you were wrong.
You know you were wrong. Here's the thing I want
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you to say it. Say it was wrong. Here's the
reason why. He's the reason why. Here's the reason why
I won't say it. I said it because you never
say you're wrong?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
What did you?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Guy?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Was that? Ain't ai to me? What is that?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I was?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Number two? I don't care if they fire time to
but no, that's not the point. Point is he got fired,
but they still overachieved.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They did not. Doesn't change. Get off of that big
Who did you pick? Look?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Who told you?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I don't believe in that series?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I told you I don't in the series. Want you
to tell me how a team? No, tell me how
a team that overachieved fire?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Did you pick the series?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Let's welcome into the Odd Couple crew find Radio Programmable.
Who did you pick the win the series?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Rob g is our producer, Alex is our engineer. Who
who did you? Elijah? Social Media? Google? I don't even
remember the picks? Probably the Knicks, probably the next I
don't remember, Rob, I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You said several times, day after day, the Pacers are
gonna win, the Knicks going overright the paces.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So I picked the Pacers. You picked the paper several people. No, No,
But here's a issue. I just want you to know
you called it no not.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't want credit, Okay, I don't you do I
want you?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You do want credit? I want you, And.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
To acknowledge that your argument yesterday ah that achieved.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No, no, no, that the argument that they.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Overachieved was illogical, reckless and dumb.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You just focusing on the Thibodeau because that you said
Thbadau should be fired?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He why did I say? Why?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Why did I say should be fired? I still stand
on the fact they overachieved. All walked into this. We all,
we all walked into this playoff series, including you listening.
When the Knicks, We're gonna lose there. They're not gonna
be Boston. They're not going to do this.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
They're terrible. Precis spent the whole class about.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The Boston, not when they beat Boston and Indiana's in
front of them.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's just you think this up by fourteen.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
This was way less about that, and this was more
about him not getting the most out of out of caps.
This was him about burning No, his guys, That's what
it was.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's about not getting to the NBA finals when that
organization believed.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That they had a shot once they beat Boston. That's
what it is. Stop it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So all of a sudden, he got fired in two
days of course he got fired. Nobody in that nobody
expected the Knicks to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You said he should be fired.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You said he got fired, but you said, that's a
great goal I will get I have no problem saying
now what I want you to say. You're wrong, that
you're wrong about the achievement. No, no, no, I strongly stand
on that. That's the part I stand on. More thing,
and they overachieved. Nobody expected this.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, they did not. Stop saying that. It's illogical what
you're saying. It doesn't make sense, Kelvin. Nobody did not.
The next you beat and the finals, it was the
cell What was beat the self? It was the Cavaliers. No,
you change expectations once they knocked off the defending champ.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Just they were game and a half away from being
in the finals. And now they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, they did not. Beau didn't get there.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You be I give you props. You said Tim should
be fired, he got fired. You got that right, I'm
telling you. You got that right, my man.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But I got that because I was logical about what
had happened, and the franchise looked at it and said,
we just blew a chance to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Tims didn't get it done right, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Not only did you blow Game one with a fourteen
point lead, they didn't even win Game two at home
after they lost that game, that's what happened. That's mediac
person thought. That's mediocre person. Nobody cares about, including Rob Parker.
Nobody cares thought they were going that far. That's why
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you want to be the Dallas Cowboys and all that,
or or the Pittsburgh Steelers talking.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
About you finished for five hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No make changes when things don't go right, and they
may changes.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
And they overachieved. It doesn't matter how much you yelled.
They overachieved. Everybody knows. That's not what I do. That's
not even a question. You know they overachieved. Not a
single person expected them to.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just gonna beat Washington like I told you that doing
just justin fie, just like I told you talking about
the stuff that I told you, Tell me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Who was the MVP? You know, what are you asking
me for? I didn't ask you to tell you? Did
I ask you to? I told you one if I
told you for months? Yeah? Okay? Did you also have
them winning first tea.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I screamed and told you for my first day on
the show that Eli Manning wasn't getting in the Hall
of Fame. Okay, I told you that. I can't even
count up the did you even bring it? I can't
even count up the losses?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Did you even bring in? Rob g Ali? Did all that,
we did all that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You just weren't listening like you weren't yesterday when I
tried to tell you what we were going to see here,
And I just want you to know you could disagree
with my opinion, but it's usually based on experience knowledge.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Stop it, no, hoop it God, I've been covering pro
sports man stop thirty. Ye well know the Knicks overachieve. No,
they did not, absolutely stop it. You didn't pick the
versus the Celtics. You didn't pick and verse the Pacers.
But they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, Once they beat the Celtics, everything changed. That's that's
the way you look at, don't.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That is the part I strongly I was even show.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Seriously the next not a great season, stopping saying that
total failure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They went out and made a trade. They got a
single person in the final rost round.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Picks or then that was for championship. That wasn't to
be mediocre.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And they and they played the team who had the
best record since the turn of the year other than
the nobody. Nobody cares, and they lost. They had the
best team since the second half. Okay, they they they
they had them down fourteen points with two thirty eight game.
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You better hope that the Knicks, for once in their life,
do something right. They got the guy. He's sitting right
out there, all I gotta do. You better do something right.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Michael Malone. Guess where he's from. He's from Queens, New York.
His dad coached the Knicks. He was an assistant at
the Knicks. He's wanted an NBA championship. It's in his
back pocket, not ten years ago, two years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Mike Malone, Malone, what I'm asking real quick?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
If he's that guy?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
People, it happens all the time. It happens all the
Mike pat Riley also went. Mike went from the Lakers
to the Knicks. Pat Riley went from the Knicks to Miami.
I could talk about a lot of coaches. Can we
compare Mike Malone. You're asking me about leaving what I'm saying,
why did Pat Roley ever leave the Lakers? They were great,
it was a great franchise. Why did he leave because
he wanted Because people move on. And Michael Bolone didn't
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do much with the best player. He got to a
finals and won it and didn't do nothing else. Mike Malone,
Mike Malone is a good coach.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm saying the Knicks better un nicked and hit it
right because everything they do typically doesn't go right. And
you got your owner talking about I don't want to
go do the shiny thing. You got your owner, Jim Dolan.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I think we always go wrong. We go and try
to get something new or bigger and shinier. All right,
And I'm not even a Thibodeau guy, but Tom Thibodau
did break some stability. Tom Thibodeau did get you to
the postseason two years in a row and got you
further than you've been in the last twenty five years.
So just be careful. You got your star player who
wanted them, Jalen Brunson. All right, it's not like Phil
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Jackson was sitting there get over championship in their back pocket.
Then I'm asking. So I'm saying, ask to me Mike Malone,
like there's no other that's the higher that if I
was running the team. I don't run the team. I'm
told you yesterday I would hire Michael Malone. Okay, I
told you that the Lakers should fire JJ Reddick and
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hire Michael Malone doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I told you that they just to sell with their
guy who has not a good coach, who's not a
good coach.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
After years, that's still agree he had a bad year.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No he didn't. You look at a name like, right,
is somebody that coach?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Jay Wright is somebody that that I can see being
tossed around because he.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Jay Wright has a great life. Man, I don't know
what else. What would he want to do? He wants
to coach, coach? No, he don't coaches coach man. He
wait for the right opportunity if he'll go to Bill
Cower as Bill Cower who who went to CBS after
he won a Super Bowl Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Has he been back coaching? Gonna those a lot of
coaches one hundred million? Who goes? You know John Madden?
John Mann was a great coach with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Why can't Jay write coach. I'm just saying, Jay Wright,
if the Knicks called him, you got your guy. Literally,
most people don't get to coach guys. You might get
a guy. Oh I had this one kid back in
the day. You have multiple Villanova guys on a team
that just has made the postseason. A couple of times.
I could see j Wright entertaining that game.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
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Speaker 4 (12:05):
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Speaker 3 (12:11):
What's up. What's happening?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, what's happening with you?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not much, man, it was great. Yeah, good to talk
to you.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
We know, we got the Big Three season eight eight
season and already, man, that's gonna be tipping off June fourteenth,
and uh, how does that feel already?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Eight seasons? We know it's unbelievable. To be honest, hey, man.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It feels great. You know, I think you know, we
can't get enough basketball, to be honest. And we started
the league twenty seventeen. You know, it was a lot
of murmurs about how the NBA was starting to play
their game and I wasn't you know, the defense was
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starting to lack. And you know, we came at the
right time with a sporting basketball player direct you know,
the way that people want to see it played. They
want to see a little more defense, physical. I think
people like the trash talking and letting guys beat themselves.
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Now nobody want to see robots play basketball. So I
just think we hit. We hit at the right time,
and the sports public was craving for, you know, something
great at this time of year when the Finals is
over and right before the NFL starts.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And are you guys back on CBS correct, because you've
been there for a while.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Now back on CBS our games that non CBS games
are gonna be on Vice. So it's great to have,
you know, two broadcasters invested in the Big three UH,
and we're playing in cities this year, so we believe
we're gonna unlock a lot of of UH fans. You know,
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when they started rooting for their cities, so.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Where the cities they got a Detroit went. Now rob
Detroit had to pull up Detroit Amplifiers, right.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Detroit Amplifiers, Joe Johnson and Jeremy Parko and d Block.
You know, they got a great squad were in La
the La Riot. We got the Dallas Power, Chicago Triplets,
Houston rig Hands, Boston Ballhawks, and the Miami three or five.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's just perfect. I mean they're sitting there, Miami three
or five. You could do that one right there. You
guys got a bunch of some big names coming to Yeah,
who's the biggest name of Joe White Howard speaking of
the Big he's literally big going to the Hall of
Fame now, yeah, and the Big Three.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's great, you know, to have him playing in our
league all summer, you know, on the year he's going
into the Hall of Fame and put a lot of
attension on our league. I think people still love Dwighton,
want to see him play and se him play the style.
You know, he's going to be asked to do more
than he was asked to do in the NBA. Uh,
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you got to pull out all you gotta pull out
his whole bag to be successful in the Big Three.
So it's gonna be fun to seek.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Let me ask you this, do you have to in
what I know, people watching games, they're on broadcast, TVCBS,
advice and that. But is it an experience like what
you have to go to like Philly fully like part
of it, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Sometimes you know you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Need to go to the game and then you kind
of get hooked on it where sometimes television doesn't give
you the total field.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Where are you on on that?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well, of course live is it's a great experience. You know,
it's different than the NBA game. Uh, For one, you
can see the whole league, so you can see four
games for the price of one. You get to see everybody.
It's not like you're just stuck with two teams. Uh,
seeing seven footers play three on three. It's pretty incredible
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live and you know we keep the party jumping. You know,
we always got performers, we got you know, we're keeping
people in the building for over three hours, so we
want to keep the entertainment coming. So it's just full
of you know, basketball funds, dunkers, dancers, DJs, everything in between.
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And what's cool. If you run up and get an
autograph from Doctor J, nobody gonna tackle you, nobody's gonna
run you out. You're not gonna get bands. You know,
it's a it's a family friendly atmosphere. You'll see a
lot of you know, a lot of families at our
games because it's a nice affordable ticket. You know. Sometimes NBA,
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you know, they price priced people out a little bit
with with you know, the cost of the tickets. But
with us, you're saying the kids, the neighbors, kids, grand kids,
You're saying, everybody from down the street. It's it's just
a fun, fun atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, it's about to I was just telling you Cube,
I took my daughter's there and they had a great time.
Like you mentioned, the atmosphere is fun. You got a
bunch of performances. Just the energy is really high there.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And you know what we talked about at the top
here Ice Cube on with the Akapa Robin Kelvin talking
about the Big Three this season. You all are gonna
have a documentary about this, and I'm really interested because
one of the things I've always respected about you is
the business acumen. Right, you go from rap to to
obviously films, and then you got the Big Three and
you got a bunch of other things that you continue
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to do as a business man. So to me, that's
gonna be fascinating to see just how this all came about.
The documentary. Tell us little bit more about that.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
It's been a crazy journey, you know. I equated to
you know, building an ocean liner with one hand and
fighting off a nine one hundred pound gorilla called the
NBA which the other hand. So it's been you know,
a lot of ups and downs, a lot of drama.
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You know, we've had people try to take the league
from up under us. This has been a lot of
crazy stuff. So it's cool that, you know, we've been
able to capture this with my man Tucker Touley and
his company and be able to bring not only the
history of the Big Three and how do we get
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to season eight, but also follow season eight and follow
the drama of the season in real time. So you know,
it's gonna have that Godfather field Godfather too where it
goes back in time but then it brings you back
to the President. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I'm just saying, and uh, you guys hired a
big time sideline reporter for this coming year, Chris Aynes.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That'll be a nice touch for the Big Three one.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, you know, it's all about credibility, and you know,
we've been able to be fortunate to have some big
names come through this league, you know, like Alan Iverston,
Chauncey Billupson and players like that. But we've also you know,
our Hall of Fame coaches are the staple, you know,
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doctor j Iceman, Michael Cooper, you know Nancy Lebrom.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Nancy I played a one on one you know that
back in Detroit when she was a shot coach.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yep, oh that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, cub I got to keep hearing about this story.
Played the Hall of Famer. Iould talk about it, you right,
I mean, come on.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, you know, I definitely got to talk about that
on your resume. But it's it's you know, having somebody
like Chris Haynes, it goes it goes back to the
credibility of the league that we do have the best
three on three players in the world. If you saw
what happened in the Olympics last year, you'll know that
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our our players should have been there. And you know,
we we got the best people in the business to
kind of evangelize that, you know, So it's gonna be
cool there. Chris on the sidels letting people know what
the Big du is.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
On the top looking forward to a que man. Congratulations
to you the whole team Big Three. You got season
eight tipping off June fourteenth, gonna be in shy Town
at the All State Arena there. If you're in that area,
make sure you go check it out and all the
Big three dot com tickets will be there. You can
get your tickets there. It's gonna be a good one man.
So congrats to you as all those QA you swigging
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by all.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Right, appreciate it much respect.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
On two too, we got a gig one. Yay yay.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Can we get a ya yay uh yay yay.
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Speaker 6 (21:20):
Over the weekend, a Western Conference executive spoke to Athlon
Sports about Bronnie James and during the conversation he said
quote that he expects Bronnie to be a regular in
the rotation next season. Ten fifteen minutes talked about his
off season growth from summer league to start of the season.
At the end of the regular season, so he's expecting
that Bronni is going to be getting regular minutes with
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the big club next year. What's interesting about that is Bronnis,
soon as he was drafted, became the poster child for
nepotism and sports. Well, flash forward to yesterday. Monday, news
broke out of Utah that Danny Ainge, the CEO of
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the Utah Jazz, is hired his son, Austin Ainge, to
be the new president of Basketball ops. You think that
might be a coincidence, except every major basketball related job
that Austin age has ever had in his career has
been with his father. So, guys, here's the question. Why
is it that Bronnie James is the poster child for
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nepotism while Austin Ainge seems to fly under the radar.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
For me, this goes back to the conversation we're having.
When Bronnie was drafted. I completely can understand people's frustration.
You know, he wasn't even that great in college. I
understood that. I got it. But the idea that lebron James,
what he's meant to the league, what he means currently
even to the league, would not help his son get
drafted to me was crazy, And I mentioned then it
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happens all the time. It happens with coaches, it happens
with guys who are behind staffers, you know, in the
executive office. It happens with lawyers. It happens with so
many people. That's just part of life. Literally, it can
be Hey, I went to college with Bob, Bob is
now a lawyer. My son wants to go to a
law firm. Hey, Bob, take care of my son. That's
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just a part of life. They alsen say. Your net
worth is sometimes and most often determined by your net work,
meaning where you're gonna go depends on who you know.
And so to me, I just think that was kind
of par for the course. And if we had the opportunity. Again,
if you're talking about with Briannie, the fifty fifth pick,
which doesn't often amount to anything, why not give him
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a shot if you were the Lakers. So to me,
I didn't quite understand the outrage. If he was a
lottery pick, oh, I totally get all right settled down.
He's not all that. He was a top ten pick,
a top twenty pick, But the fifty fifth pick didn't
really bother me. And again, My point then was Rob,
this happens all the time. No, it doesn't, and it happens.
It happens. It just literally just happened, right. That's the
craziest thing I've ever heard. Between working a job where
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people do is bad. So I'm the first one to
say it. What Danny Aingel is doing is bad. Nepotism
is bad.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
A lot of companies won't even allow it because it
is bad. I don't believe the Utah jabsh should hire
Danny Aingel's son, So I'll be the first one on
the record. But when it comes to athletics and you
having to compete to get on the field, the reason
that this country is seventy percent white and the NBA
seventy five percent black is because you have to earn
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your way onto the field. Okay, if NBA owners wanted
to do it and hire just put white guys on
the league and say the country seventy percent white. I
don't care how good black players are. I'm just gonna
hire white players because those are the people who are
buying the tickets and coming to the games.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And I don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
No sports has never been that once they've decided that
they were going to allow black people to compete fairly
and honestly once they broke the color barrier. So it's
a disservice to everybody who puts on their uniform who
has to compete. Michael Jordan owned the damn team. He
didn't put his two sons on the team. He could have.
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Jerry Jones owns the Dallas Cowboys. He could have put
his team, his tongue, his sons on the team and said, what.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Doesn't matter, They're only the last guys on the end
of the bench.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
People would be outraged. It s It's a disgrace anybody
who's ever played sports and had to compete for a
spot for a guy to put their kid on it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
It happens all the time, and it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's wrong in little league, it's wrong in high school,
it's wrong in college, and it's wrong in the.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Pros anybody who's honest.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The only reason that people didn't go out and go
off on Lebron is because he's the star and they
don't want the wrath or be able to say, well,
Lebron stopped me from doing this, or I can't get
a ticket to the Lakers, or you know, like they're afraid.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If this was anybody else, if this was anybody other.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Than Lebron James, he'd be ridiculed trying to get it son.
In the NBA, we saw it down with Irban Meyer
trying to get Tim Tebow a job as a tight
end right his next door neighbor, his friend, and the
player said, f no, he's no good. There's twenty kids
in college who played tight end who deserved that job.
(26:20):
And what happened. Tim Tebow didn't get a job because
it wasn't right. And Brownnie's not right, and he proved
this year he's ready. He's not ready for the NBA.
He's a marginal player at best. I refuse to sit
here and act like it's okay. It ain't the same
thing as a job. If I own a store or
I own something that people hire people all the time,
(26:43):
it still ain't right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I just said that from the jump.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The nepotism ain't right unless you own a family store
and you could hire whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
If it's your business, you can well. First off, the
Lakers are family business. Let's start there. The Lakers are
family run business. So you the best part about it
is you're acting as if you couldn't name me three
four players that came out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Do you know how many players in that draft will
never hear him again? I want you to name me
another player? Put this? You know how wasn't worthy? Name one?
I literally, I just let you talk. Name one. You can't,
you can't, never been done. I'll just let you talk
and yo, you're done.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, thanks, So you can't name me another player in
that draft. Outside of one or two players, the draft
was not good. There were not great players, and especially
in the second round with a bunch of guys who
we will never hear from again. So that happens all
the time, where you get a guy who's not that
great and you're taking him on potential or you're taking
(27:40):
him on some type of connection. That happens all the time.
So to act as if that's some anomaly, it's not.
Do you know how many second round picks are nothing
but hopes. This kid's coming from this country. Well, he's six',
eight we're hoping he might grow he's only, nineteen he
might grow three more, inches and you take him on a.
Whim you never even seen him play, Basketball and it
happens all the. Time so the idea that The lakers
(28:01):
don't do a solid to their star player and go
get a kid who is his son who played locally?
Here that, see that is crazy that on the team
whoa he did not he did play number? One he,
did he didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And he did not play well that Wasn't why didn't?
HE i don't know he came back and. PLAYED i
know he had an, incident but that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
So he had a. Resident so you're, SAYING i know
he's better than what we just. Saw he's getting better
THAT i don't know he's. Better so the fact that
if it's a big, deal but When Danny ings does,
it he ain't the, same.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Exactly the same because, everywhere every for the for the
on the, field you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Know what it's.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Called it's called an, auditions called an, interview have to
audition an.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Interview i'm telling you that different did is. WRONG i
tell you What Jerry jones. Did Jerry jones owns the.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Team he has a right to to hire his family
if he owns the. Business lebron doesn't own The. Lakers
The lakers, business The. Lakers they didn't do.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Right it's.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
DISGRACEFUL i, can't And i'm blown away that you actually
are that bad. Disgraceful there's a million and a half
talk about disgrace in his country or things that go.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
On that's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Nice that's what stopped black people from getting jobbed. Forever
we could never get into places because people were hiring
their countines and their.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Friends i'm talking from, experience, Man and it ain't.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right it ain't. Right you want to go and it
ain't right with lebron And. Bronny it ain't. Right When
Danny aingel and his, kid it ain't. RIGHT i told
you When Bill belichick hired his kid down At North,
carolina it ain't.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Right, Okay so that's gonna happen for eternity because people
hire people they, know, duh just like you get so
many people. Returnships people you, Know, HEY i know a
kid who looks.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Hard do you have a great.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Opportunity you're not related to.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Me they're not. Related my nephew does not work At
Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Radio what you, WANT i don't know what Your they're
not related to. Me it ain't the same.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Thing it's.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wrong part that's why company there's a lot of companies
you can't hire relatives for that, reason.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That's, Fine but why do they do?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
That?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Then if it's, fine why do you think they do?
That i'm asking.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You i'm saying it has happened from the beginning of
why is the? Company explain it to? Me, yes you do.
Not can't you have sex with with? People, No i'm
asking YOU. WHOA i don't know how we got, that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Because you know, what how many people have lost jobs
because they have sex with.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Subordinates it's the same. Thing why is?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
THAT i don't know that the same thing is wielding
your power to have sex with somebody is not the
same is hiring SOMEBODY i know at.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
All it's the reason that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You shouldn't do it because you also alter other people's
lives at the job by doing stuff like.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Fair someone worked their whole life for an opportunity and
you will hire their.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
SON i don't THINK i would BE i would feel
good about.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
That
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Couple and welcome into the Odd Couple on this trash
Talking Tuesday. Except for the first time in Odd Couple
history here in seven years, what's that? It is not
a trash talking Tuesday. It's an ass showing Tuesday. Because
I'm gonna be showing my ass at least for the
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first hour of this radio program to my partner, Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Why is that? Who? I told you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Over and over that the Knicks did not over at chieve,
that they underachieved, and that Tom Thibodeau deserved to be fired.
And guess what happened today before we came into this
radio show.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
What happened? Tom Thibodau got fired. Fired.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
They call me mister Tibbs is now on the unemployment line.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
He is a unemployment line. He is updating his LinkedIn page.
That's without a doubt.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
And I tried to tell you this yesterday. We went
on and on and on about this, but we'll get
to this. Do you feel better? How do you feel
after yesterday? You made your case that they were overachievers
and let let's keep it the way it is and
the Knicks just have to keep building?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I always you know, sitting next to me for weeks
that I personally don't like Tom Thibodau.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You've heard me say that for weeks.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
But I still believe the Knicks over achieved that and
you can fire Tom Thibodau.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
You can fire your achievement. Does that make sense? I'm
just asking you.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I'm digitally absolutely the next overachieved. If they believe they overachieved,
why would they fire him. There's coaches who are Coach
of the Year who get fired. You know that sports
too long. I want you to acknowledge, absolutely not. I
want you to acknowledge and accept that you were wrong.
You know you were wrong. Here's the thing I want
(02:20):
you to say it. Say it was wrong. Here's the
reason why. He's the reason why. Here's the reason why
I won't say it. I said it because you never
say you're wrong?
Speaker 5 (02:31):
What did you?
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Guy?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Was that? Ain't ai to me? What is that?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I was?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Number two? I don't care if they fire time to
but no, that's not the point. Point is he got fired,
but they still overachieved.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
They did not. Doesn't change. Get off of that big
Who did you pick? Look?
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Who?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Who told you?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I don't believe in that series?
Speaker 1 (02:57):
I told you I don't in the series. Want you
to tell me how a team? No, tell me how
a team that overachieved fire?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Did you pick the series?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Let's welcome into the Odd Couple crew find Radio Programmable.
Who did you pick the win the series?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Rob g is our producer, Alex is our engineer. Who
who did you? Elijah? Social Media? Google? I don't even
remember the picks? Probably the Knicks, probably the next I
don't remember, Rob, I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
You said several times, day after day, the Pacers are
gonna win, the Knicks going overright the paces.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
So I picked the Pacers. You picked the paper several people. No, No,
But here's a issue. I just want you to know
you called it no not.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
I don't want credit, Okay, I don't you do I
want you?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
You do want credit? I want you, And.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
To acknowledge that your argument yesterday ah that achieved.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
No, no, no, that the argument that they.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Overachieved was illogical, reckless and dumb.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
You just focusing on the Thibodeau because that you said
Thbadau should be fired?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He why did I say? Why?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Why did I say should be fired? I still stand
on the fact they overachieved. All walked into this. We all,
we all walked into this playoff series, including you listening.
When the Knicks, We're gonna lose there. They're not gonna
be Boston. They're not going to do this.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
They're terrible. Precis spent the whole class about.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
The Boston, not when they beat Boston and Indiana's in
front of them.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It's just you think this up by fourteen.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
This was way less about that, and this was more
about him not getting the most out of out of caps.
This was him about burning No, his guys, That's what
it was.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
It's about not getting to the NBA finals when that
organization believed.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
That they had a shot once they beat Boston. That's
what it is. Stop it.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
So all of a sudden, he got fired in two
days of course he got fired. Nobody in that nobody
expected the Knicks to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
You.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
You said he should be fired.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
You said he got fired, but you said, that's a
great goal I will get I have no problem saying
now what I want you to say. You're wrong, that
you're wrong about the achievement. No, no, no, I strongly stand
on that. That's the part I stand on. More thing,
and they overachieved. Nobody expected this.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
No, they did not. Stop saying that. It's illogical what
you're saying. It doesn't make sense, Kelvin. Nobody did not.
The next you beat and the finals, it was the
cell What was beat the self? It was the Cavaliers. No,
you change expectations once they knocked off the defending champ.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Just they were game and a half away from being
in the finals. And now they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
No, they did not. Beau didn't get there.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
You be I give you props. You said Tim should
be fired, he got fired. You got that right, I'm
telling you. You got that right, my man.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But I got that because I was logical about what
had happened, and the franchise looked at it and said,
we just blew a chance to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Tims didn't get it done right, and that was it.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Not only did you blow Game one with a fourteen
point lead, they didn't even win Game two at home
after they lost that game, that's what happened. That's mediac
person thought. That's mediocre person. Nobody cares about, including Rob Parker.
Nobody cares thought they were going that far. That's why
(06:34):
you want to be the Dallas Cowboys and all that,
or or the Pittsburgh Steelers talking.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
About you finished for five hundred.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
No make changes when things don't go right, and they
may changes.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
And they overachieved. It doesn't matter how much you yelled.
They overachieved. Everybody knows. That's not what I do. That's
not even a question. You know they overachieved. Not a
single person expected them to.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
Just gonna beat Washington like I told you that doing
just justin fie, just like I told you talking about
the stuff that I told you, Tell me whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Who was the MVP? You know, what are you asking
me for? I didn't ask you to tell you? Did
I ask you to? I told you one if I
told you for months? Yeah? Okay? Did you also have
them winning first tea.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I screamed and told you for my first day on
the show that Eli Manning wasn't getting in the Hall
of Fame. Okay, I told you that. I can't even
count up the did you even bring it? I can't
even count up the losses?
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Did you even bring in? Rob g Ali? Did all that,
we did all that.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
You just weren't listening like you weren't yesterday when I
tried to tell you what we were going to see here,
And I just want you to know you could disagree
with my opinion, but it's usually based on experience knowledge.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Stop it, no, hoop it God, I've been covering pro
sports man stop thirty. Ye well know the Knicks overachieve. No,
they did not, absolutely stop it. You didn't pick the
versus the Celtics. You didn't pick and verse the Pacers.
But they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
No, Once they beat the Celtics, everything changed. That's that's
the way you look at, don't.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
That is the part I strongly I was even show.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Seriously the next not a great season, stopping saying that
total failure.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
They went out and made a trade. They got a
single person in the final rost round.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Picks or then that was for championship. That wasn't to
be mediocre.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
And they and they played the team who had the
best record since the turn of the year other than
the nobody. Nobody cares, and they lost. They had the
best team since the second half. Okay, they they they
they had them down fourteen points with two thirty eight game.
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You better hope that the Knicks, for once in their life,
do something right. They got the guy. He's sitting right
out there, all I gotta do. You better do something right.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Michael Malone. Guess where he's from. He's from Queens, New York.
His dad coached the Knicks. He was an assistant at
the Knicks. He's wanted an NBA championship. It's in his
back pocket, not ten years ago, two years ago.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Mike Malone, Malone, what I'm asking real quick?
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Like?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
If he's that guy?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
People, it happens all the time. It happens all the
Mike pat Riley also went. Mike went from the Lakers
to the Knicks. Pat Riley went from the Knicks to Miami.
I could talk about a lot of coaches. Can we
compare Mike Malone. You're asking me about leaving what I'm saying,
why did Pat Roley ever leave the Lakers? They were great,
it was a great franchise. Why did he leave because
he wanted Because people move on. And Michael Bolone didn't
(09:49):
do much with the best player. He got to a
finals and won it and didn't do nothing else. Mike Malone,
Mike Malone is a good coach.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm saying the Knicks better un nicked and hit it
right because everything they do typically doesn't go right. And
you got your owner talking about I don't want to
go do the shiny thing. You got your owner, Jim Dolan.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I think we always go wrong. We go and try
to get something new or bigger and shinier. All right,
And I'm not even a Thibodeau guy, but Tom Thibodau
did break some stability. Tom Thibodeau did get you to
the postseason two years in a row and got you
further than you've been in the last twenty five years.
So just be careful. You got your star player who
wanted them, Jalen Brunson. All right, it's not like Phil
(10:31):
Jackson was sitting there get over championship in their back pocket.
Then I'm asking. So I'm saying, ask to me Mike Malone,
like there's no other that's the higher that if I
was running the team. I don't run the team. I'm
told you yesterday I would hire Michael Malone. Okay, I
told you that the Lakers should fire JJ Reddick and
(10:53):
hire Michael Malone doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
I told you that they just to sell with their
guy who has not a good coach, who's not a
good coach.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
After years, that's still agree he had a bad year.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
No he didn't. You look at a name like, right,
is somebody that coach?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Jay Wright is somebody that that I can see being
tossed around because he.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Jay Wright has a great life. Man, I don't know
what else. What would he want to do? He wants
to coach, coach? No, he don't coaches coach man. He
wait for the right opportunity if he'll go to Bill
Cower as Bill Cower who who went to CBS after
he won a Super Bowl Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Has he been back coaching? Gonna those a lot of
coaches one hundred million? Who goes? You know John Madden?
John Mann was a great coach with the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Why can't Jay write coach. I'm just saying, Jay Wright,
if the Knicks called him, you got your guy. Literally,
most people don't get to coach guys. You might get
a guy. Oh I had this one kid back in
the day. You have multiple Villanova guys on a team
that just has made the postseason. A couple of times.
I could see j Wright entertaining that game.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
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Speaker 4 (12:05):
Talk to It right now, Cube is all with the Ido,
Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on the Trash Talking Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
What's up. What's happening?
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Yeah, yeah, what's happening with you?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Not much, man, it was great. Yeah, good to talk
to you.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
We know, we got the Big Three season eight eight
season and already, man, that's gonna be tipping off June fourteenth,
and uh, how does that feel already?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Eight seasons? We know it's unbelievable. To be honest, hey, man.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
It feels great. You know, I think you know, we
can't get enough basketball, to be honest. And we started
the league twenty seventeen. You know, it was a lot
of murmurs about how the NBA was starting to play
their game and I wasn't you know, the defense was
(12:52):
starting to lack. And you know, we came at the
right time with a sporting basketball player direct you know,
the way that people want to see it played. They
want to see a little more defense, physical. I think
people like the trash talking and letting guys beat themselves.
(13:14):
Now nobody want to see robots play basketball. So I
just think we hit. We hit at the right time,
and the sports public was craving for, you know, something
great at this time of year when the Finals is
over and right before the NFL starts.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
And are you guys back on CBS correct, because you've
been there for a while.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Now back on CBS our games that non CBS games
are gonna be on Vice. So it's great to have,
you know, two broadcasters invested in the Big three UH,
and we're playing in cities this year, so we believe
we're gonna unlock a lot of of UH fans. You know,
(14:03):
when they started rooting for their cities, so.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Where the cities they got a Detroit went. Now rob
Detroit had to pull up Detroit Amplifiers, right.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
Detroit Amplifiers, Joe Johnson and Jeremy Parko and d Block.
You know, they got a great squad were in La
the La Riot. We got the Dallas Power, Chicago Triplets,
Houston rig Hands, Boston Ballhawks, and the Miami three or five.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
That's just perfect. I mean they're sitting there, Miami three
or five. You could do that one right there. You
guys got a bunch of some big names coming to Yeah,
who's the biggest name of Joe White Howard speaking of
the Big he's literally big going to the Hall of
Fame now, yeah, and the Big Three.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
It's great, you know, to have him playing in our
league all summer, you know, on the year he's going
into the Hall of Fame and put a lot of
attension on our league. I think people still love Dwighton,
want to see him play and se him play the style.
You know, he's going to be asked to do more
than he was asked to do in the NBA. Uh,
(15:15):
you got to pull out all you gotta pull out
his whole bag to be successful in the Big Three.
So it's gonna be fun to seek.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Let me ask you this, do you have to in
what I know, people watching games, they're on broadcast, TVCBS,
advice and that. But is it an experience like what
you have to go to like Philly fully like part
of it, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Sometimes you know you.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Need to go to the game and then you kind
of get hooked on it where sometimes television doesn't give
you the total field.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Where are you on on that?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
Well, of course live is it's a great experience. You know,
it's different than the NBA game. Uh, For one, you
can see the whole league, so you can see four
games for the price of one. You get to see everybody.
It's not like you're just stuck with two teams. Uh,
seeing seven footers play three on three. It's pretty incredible
(16:13):
live and you know we keep the party jumping. You know,
we always got performers, we got you know, we're keeping
people in the building for over three hours, so we
want to keep the entertainment coming. So it's just full
of you know, basketball funds, dunkers, dancers, DJs, everything in between.
(16:37):
And what's cool. If you run up and get an
autograph from Doctor J, nobody gonna tackle you, nobody's gonna
run you out. You're not gonna get bands. You know,
it's a it's a family friendly atmosphere. You'll see a
lot of you know, a lot of families at our
games because it's a nice affordable ticket. You know. Sometimes NBA,
(17:04):
you know, they price priced people out a little bit
with with you know, the cost of the tickets. But
with us, you're saying the kids, the neighbors, kids, grand kids,
You're saying, everybody from down the street. It's it's just
a fun, fun atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, it's about to I was just telling you Cube,
I took my daughter's there and they had a great time.
Like you mentioned, the atmosphere is fun. You got a
bunch of performances. Just the energy is really high there.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And you know what we talked about at the top
here Ice Cube on with the Akapa Robin Kelvin talking
about the Big Three this season. You all are gonna
have a documentary about this, and I'm really interested because
one of the things I've always respected about you is
the business acumen. Right, you go from rap to to
obviously films, and then you got the Big Three and
you got a bunch of other things that you continue
(17:53):
to do as a business man. So to me, that's
gonna be fascinating to see just how this all came about.
The documentary. Tell us little bit more about that.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
It's been a crazy journey, you know. I equated to
you know, building an ocean liner with one hand and
fighting off a nine one hundred pound gorilla called the
NBA which the other hand. So it's been you know,
a lot of ups and downs, a lot of drama.
(18:23):
You know, we've had people try to take the league
from up under us. This has been a lot of
crazy stuff. So it's cool that, you know, we've been
able to capture this with my man Tucker Touley and
his company and be able to bring not only the
history of the Big Three and how do we get
(18:44):
to season eight, but also follow season eight and follow
the drama of the season in real time. So you know,
it's gonna have that Godfather field Godfather too where it
goes back in time but then it brings you back
to the President. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I'm just saying, and uh, you guys hired a
big time sideline reporter for this coming year, Chris Aynes.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
That'll be a nice touch for the Big Three one.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Yeah, you know, it's all about credibility, and you know,
we've been able to be fortunate to have some big
names come through this league, you know, like Alan Iverston,
Chauncey Billupson and players like that. But we've also you know,
our Hall of Fame coaches are the staple, you know,
(19:36):
doctor j Iceman, Michael Cooper, you know Nancy Lebrom.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Nancy I played a one on one you know that
back in Detroit when she was a shot coach.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yep, oh that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, cub I got to keep hearing about this story.
Played the Hall of Famer. Iould talk about it, you right,
I mean, come on.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, you know, I definitely got to talk about that
on your resume. But it's it's you know, having somebody
like Chris Haynes, it goes it goes back to the
credibility of the league that we do have the best
three on three players in the world. If you saw
what happened in the Olympics last year, you'll know that
(20:22):
our our players should have been there. And you know,
we we got the best people in the business to
kind of evangelize that, you know, So it's gonna be
cool there. Chris on the sidels letting people know what
the Big du is.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
On the top looking forward to a que man. Congratulations
to you the whole team Big Three. You got season
eight tipping off June fourteenth, gonna be in shy Town
at the All State Arena there. If you're in that area,
make sure you go check it out and all the
Big three dot com tickets will be there. You can
get your tickets there. It's gonna be a good one man.
So congrats to you as all those QA you swigging
(20:59):
by all.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Right, appreciate it much respect.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
On two too, we got a gig one. Yay yay.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Can we get a ya yay uh yay yay.
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Speaker 6 (21:20):
Over the weekend, a Western Conference executive spoke to Athlon
Sports about Bronnie James and during the conversation he said
quote that he expects Bronnie to be a regular in
the rotation next season. Ten fifteen minutes talked about his
off season growth from summer league to start of the season.
At the end of the regular season, so he's expecting
that Bronni is going to be getting regular minutes with
(21:42):
the big club next year. What's interesting about that is Bronnis,
soon as he was drafted, became the poster child for
nepotism and sports. Well, flash forward to yesterday. Monday, news
broke out of Utah that Danny Ainge, the CEO of
(22:02):
the Utah Jazz, is hired his son, Austin Ainge, to
be the new president of Basketball ops. You think that
might be a coincidence, except every major basketball related job
that Austin age has ever had in his career has
been with his father. So, guys, here's the question. Why
is it that Bronnie James is the poster child for
(22:23):
nepotism while Austin Ainge seems to fly under the radar.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
For me, this goes back to the conversation we're having.
When Bronnie was drafted. I completely can understand people's frustration.
You know, he wasn't even that great in college. I
understood that. I got it. But the idea that lebron James,
what he's meant to the league, what he means currently
even to the league, would not help his son get
drafted to me was crazy, And I mentioned then it
(22:52):
happens all the time. It happens with coaches, it happens
with guys who are behind staffers, you know, in the
executive office. It happens with lawyers. It happens with so
many people. That's just part of life. Literally, it can
be Hey, I went to college with Bob, Bob is
now a lawyer. My son wants to go to a
law firm. Hey, Bob, take care of my son. That's
(23:14):
just a part of life. They alsen say. Your net
worth is sometimes and most often determined by your net work,
meaning where you're gonna go depends on who you know.
And so to me, I just think that was kind
of par for the course. And if we had the opportunity. Again,
if you're talking about with Briannie, the fifty fifth pick,
which doesn't often amount to anything, why not give him
(23:35):
a shot if you were the Lakers. So to me,
I didn't quite understand the outrage. If he was a
lottery pick, oh, I totally get all right settled down.
He's not all that. He was a top ten pick,
a top twenty pick, But the fifty fifth pick didn't
really bother me. And again, My point then was Rob,
this happens all the time. No, it doesn't, and it happens.
It happens. It just literally just happened, right. That's the
craziest thing I've ever heard. Between working a job where
(23:58):
people do is bad. So I'm the first one to
say it. What Danny Aingel is doing is bad. Nepotism
is bad.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
A lot of companies won't even allow it because it
is bad. I don't believe the Utah jabsh should hire
Danny Aingel's son, So I'll be the first one on
the record. But when it comes to athletics and you
having to compete to get on the field, the reason
that this country is seventy percent white and the NBA
seventy five percent black is because you have to earn
(24:27):
your way onto the field. Okay, if NBA owners wanted
to do it and hire just put white guys on
the league and say the country seventy percent white. I
don't care how good black players are. I'm just gonna
hire white players because those are the people who are
buying the tickets and coming to the games.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
And I don't care.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
No sports has never been that once they've decided that
they were going to allow black people to compete fairly
and honestly once they broke the color barrier. So it's
a disservice to everybody who puts on their uniform who
has to compete. Michael Jordan owned the damn team. He
didn't put his two sons on the team. He could have.
(25:10):
Jerry Jones owns the Dallas Cowboys. He could have put
his team, his tongue, his sons on the team and said, what.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Doesn't matter, They're only the last guys on the end
of the bench.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
People would be outraged. It s It's a disgrace anybody
who's ever played sports and had to compete for a
spot for a guy to put their kid on it.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
It happens all the time, and it's wrong.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
It's wrong in little league, it's wrong in high school,
it's wrong in college, and it's wrong in the.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Pros anybody who's honest.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
The only reason that people didn't go out and go
off on Lebron is because he's the star and they
don't want the wrath or be able to say, well,
Lebron stopped me from doing this, or I can't get
a ticket to the Lakers, or you know, like they're afraid.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
If this was anybody else, if this was anybody other.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Than Lebron James, he'd be ridiculed trying to get it son.
In the NBA, we saw it down with Irban Meyer
trying to get Tim Tebow a job as a tight
end right his next door neighbor, his friend, and the
player said, f no, he's no good. There's twenty kids
in college who played tight end who deserved that job.
(26:20):
And what happened. Tim Tebow didn't get a job because
it wasn't right. And Brownnie's not right, and he proved
this year he's ready. He's not ready for the NBA.
He's a marginal player at best. I refuse to sit
here and act like it's okay. It ain't the same
thing as a job. If I own a store or
I own something that people hire people all the time,
(26:43):
it still ain't right.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
I just said that from the jump.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The nepotism ain't right unless you own a family store
and you could hire whoever you want.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
If it's your business, you can well. First off, the
Lakers are family business. Let's start there. The Lakers are
family run business. So you the best part about it
is you're acting as if you couldn't name me three
four players that came out of that draft.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Do you know how many players in that draft will
never hear him again? I want you to name me
another player? Put this? You know how wasn't worthy? Name one?
I literally, I just let you talk. Name one. You can't,
you can't, never been done. I'll just let you talk
and yo, you're done.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Okay, thanks, So you can't name me another player in
that draft. Outside of one or two players, the draft
was not good. There were not great players, and especially
in the second round with a bunch of guys who
we will never hear from again. So that happens all
the time, where you get a guy who's not that
great and you're taking him on potential or you're taking
(27:40):
him on some type of connection. That happens all the time.
So to act as if that's some anomaly, it's not.
Do you know how many second round picks are nothing
but hopes. This kid's coming from this country. Well, he's six',
eight we're hoping he might grow he's only, nineteen he
might grow three more, inches and you take him on a.
Whim you never even seen him play, Basketball and it
happens all the. Time so the idea that The lakers
(28:01):
don't do a solid to their star player and go
get a kid who is his son who played locally?
Here that, see that is crazy that on the team
whoa he did not he did play number? One he,
did he didn't.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And he did not play well that Wasn't why didn't?
HE i don't know he came back and. PLAYED i
know he had an, incident but that's exactly.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
So he had a. Resident so you're, SAYING i know
he's better than what we just. Saw he's getting better
THAT i don't know he's. Better so the fact that
if it's a big, deal but When Danny ings does,
it he ain't the, same.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Exactly the same because, everywhere every for the for the
on the, field you.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Know what it's.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Called it's called an, auditions called an, interview have to
audition an.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Interview i'm telling you that different did is. WRONG i
tell you What Jerry jones. Did Jerry jones owns the.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Team he has a right to to hire his family
if he owns the. Business lebron doesn't own The. Lakers
The lakers, business The. Lakers they didn't do.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Right it's.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
DISGRACEFUL i, can't And i'm blown away that you actually
are that bad. Disgraceful there's a million and a half
talk about disgrace in his country or things that go.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
On that's.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Nice that's what stopped black people from getting jobbed. Forever
we could never get into places because people were hiring
their countines and their.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Friends i'm talking from, experience, Man and it ain't.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Right it ain't. Right you want to go and it
ain't right with lebron And. Bronny it ain't. Right When
Danny aingel and his, kid it ain't. RIGHT i told
you When Bill belichick hired his kid down At North,
carolina it ain't.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Right, Okay so that's gonna happen for eternity because people
hire people they, know, duh just like you get so
many people. Returnships people you, Know, HEY i know a
kid who looks.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
Hard do you have a great.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Opportunity you're not related to.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Me they're not. Related my nephew does not work At
Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Radio what you, WANT i don't know what Your they're
not related to. Me it ain't the same.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Thing it's.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Wrong part that's why company there's a lot of companies
you can't hire relatives for that, reason.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
That's, Fine but why do they do?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
That?
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Then if it's, fine why do you think they do?
That i'm asking.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
You i'm saying it has happened from the beginning of
why is the? Company explain it to? Me, yes you do.
Not can't you have sex with with? People, No i'm
asking YOU. WHOA i don't know how we got, that.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Because you know, what how many people have lost jobs
because they have sex with.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Subordinates it's the same. Thing why is?
Speaker 4 (30:54):
THAT i don't know that the same thing is wielding
your power to have sex with somebody is not the
same is hiring SOMEBODY i know at.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
All it's the reason that.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You shouldn't do it because you also alter other people's
lives at the job by doing stuff like.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
That it's not.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Fair someone worked their whole life for an opportunity and
you will hire their.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
SON i don't THINK i would BE i would feel
good about.
Speaker 5 (31:17):
That
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