June 4, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether the NBA would be better served just canceling the All-Star Game altogether rather than pivoting to a Team USA vs The World format, explain why the Oklahoma City Thunder are having a great season in 2025 but they are far from an all-time great team, and tell us why you can’t take athlete-led content from guys like Shaquille O’Neal serious anymore.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
I don't know if you watched the FS one's Breakfast
Ball this morning, but if you.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Did, I never missed it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
If you didn't see, you missed a bombshell dropped by
NBA Commissioned Adam Silver, who said on the show that
in effort to save the fledging NBA All Star Game,
you know, he had the TNT picks, he had the
elam ending at all those things.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
None of them worked.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
People hated the game. They said it was terrible to watch.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They even had the NBA PA come out and speak
to players to say, how can we get you to
play hard? Well, Adam Silver thinks he has just the
and that is starting next season, the new All Star
Game format will be Team USA versus the World.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Thank you, and this is a public service message for
Adam Silver. Hello, is this on, Adam Silver, Do us
a favor. Don't try to fix the NBA All Star
Game and don't show up with this tired ole USA
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versus the world that has been tried and done by
a million people. Adam Silver, you want to do something,
make the right call, do the right thing, and cancel
the NBA All Star Game. You heard me right, Cancel
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the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's a bore. It's outdated. Nobody wants it.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
The players don't even want to play in it. It's
an embarrassment to your league. Stop fiddling. You've been doing
a tinkering with this. You know they say, don't fix it.
If it ain't broke, it's broke, and it can't be fixed.
Even the NFL, which still got ratings with the Pro Bowl,
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realize it's antiquated. It's no good. Nobody wants to watch
it or participate. Guess what they did. They pulled the plug,
Adam Silver, pull the plug. It's okay, things change, times change.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's alright. Nobody wants to play.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
The scores are over two hundred for an NBA game.
Everything is a three point shot or that's embarrassing. He's
sent in two of the greatest players to go talk to.
There's a couple of years ago about playing hard Larry
Bird and Doctor j and what happened. They turned into
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absolutely awful performance after hearing those two legends talk to
them and begged them to play hard for the fans.
These players don't care about the All Star Game enough already,
Adam Silver, finally do something.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You want to fix your legacy.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Be the guy who was a man enough to say,
you know what, we gotta make a change.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And the change has.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
To be real, and a real change would be to
cancel the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I get your sentiment, will you?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And I talked about this this past February. Is disappointing,
it's upsetting, it's confusing in a sense of hey, guys,
or forty forty eight minutes of your life, can you
give it your all? And it shouldn't be difficult to sell,
especially considering out these are the fans, whether they're viewing,
whether they're in public, whether they're at the game, or
the sponsors, by the way, that allow you to have
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these salaries and.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Live the life that you live.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But it ain't going nowhere, and so if it ain't
going nowhere. I think this is the last This is
Custar's last stand Rob.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
This is something I.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Believe that maybe just made me could work, And I'll
tell you my theory on why, because one of the
things you have to play for usually you have to
have some reason, right, And I know it should just
simply be the fans, like, hey, they're doing this for
the fans, but it obviously hasn't been. And I also
believe these young guys, I don't think they don't want
to play.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think they know how.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
To I think they have a zero or one hundred,
meaning they don't know how to give us seventy five percent.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I think they know it's either all in or we're just.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We're letting it go and guys are dunking and were shooting threes.
I don't genuinely think they know how to do the perfect,
but I think this is it. They're hearing that all
the last six seven MVPs have been non American born
and the world has the best players yann Is, Yo kids, Luca, Sga,
and I think this would be the last hope in
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a sense that one thing we call unite about it
wasn't COVID It won't be when the Aliens invade. It
won't be when the big huge rock is coming to
crush earth. The only time we all come together, black, white, Latino, gay, Strait,
Christian Muslim is the Olympics boy for two weeks, America
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comes together like never before. If you failed from Mars,
you would think we are the most united country or
in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
In most countries, they come together for that. And if
you can have a.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
World versus usay, that might be the thing that starts
some little bit of you know, tension, little friction, little
one to prove that we're the best.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You heard Kevin durand Er in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So about Yeah, other countries are putting players in the league,
and yeah they got some MVPs. But we still have
the best talent of the best product, and I think
this would be it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Rob. I echo your frustration.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think all of us do, especially those of us
who have been watching for thirty forty years and seeing
how great it's been and knowing what you could expect
and getting excited about it and it hasn't been the same.
This is the last hope for me that maybe, just
maybe we could get that intensity back in the competitiveness back.
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Speaker 6 (06:39):
App talking about OKC and their dominance and what kind
of year they had in the postseason that they've had,
add a couple of clunkers, but for the most part,
they demolished the opponents.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
You know, I mean, that's what word I would use.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
But I think there's a difference here, And this is
where we're trying to get at.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Is Okay, see.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Having a great season, but they're not a great team.
Like there are people trying to say this is an
all time great team and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I just can't get there.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
I don't care what numbers, how many games they won,
do you know what I mean? The margin of victory,
But could I honestly say that they're having a great
season a season for the ages.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I told you this before. This could very easily be
a one off.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And I'm not saying that, you know what I mean,
We're gonna erase them and they're gonna be bad and
not gonna make that I'm not but I mean, as
well as they've played, everything's going right for them, do
you know what I mean? There's a lot of that
things could change next year with SGA and how referees
officiate him after this whole year, right, they might go, oh,
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giving them too much? Maybe where do you know the
tiki tags? Maybe and maybe not get that because we
saw that with James Harden. Do you remember when they
stopped giving them the foul call in the postseason?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Right, I mean that's what he did all year.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He's like, hold on, wait what get right?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I've been getting this call all year and it changed
to who he was in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah? I mean, well, we don't know what has been
wrong with him over the years.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's just you know what I mean. But I totally
get what you're saying. I want to let you finish
your thought before if you yeah, I think so here.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Season to me, right right?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And I think that's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think what's challenging with what this team is is
that when you just look at the numbers, they are
a great at all time great team. When you look
at the point differential between the regular season and postseason
around twelve thirteen points. I mean, they've set records with that.
When you look at what they've done defensively, they're setting records.
They have MVP who's doing historic things three years, scoring
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thirty plus shooting fifty percent from the field only I
believe Jordan has done that.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So from a literal.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Analytical standpoint, just straight numbers and facts, they are an
all time great team. But to me, and I've mentioned
this before, what makes an all time great team is identifiers, things, moments, names,
and they're not there yet. Some of it's not their fault,
meaning the season isn't over. Maybe they have a great
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finals and then you know, we have some epic finals
where it's up being a six to seven game battle
series battle, and you just there's great moments.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
There's a couple of game winners.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The SGA hits one and Tyree's Helliburton hits one, and
we remember that. But as of right now, I keep
mentioning this them just blowing people out, them just having
guys who are really good at their roles and really
good players as part of their team, but they're not identifiable,
they're not stars. I think that takes away from it.
And so what they're having is a historically great season
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to your point, but it's nothing memorable or identifiable other
than they're really good defensively.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Let men, you interject real cool, say they don't win
a championship.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Uh huh, No one.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Will say they were an all time team, absolutely saying
you see what I'm saying. And that's with all of
the accolades and everything you just mentioned. Nobody would say, oh,
I will only all time great teams. I know they
didn't win a championship, but they were. It would race everything.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And I'm gonna add to that the reason why the
Warriors don't get that as much as maybe people want to.
When they won seventy three games, and obviously the finals
they didn't win, but they could at least say we
won before this, so you go, all right, that was
a great run. And then obviously we would know they
were going to win a couple more. But my point
is they had that in the bag that they could
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at least say we won a championship prior to this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This okay s team.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If they don't win, then you're just saying, oh, well, wow,
they're just continuously on their way. They went from forty
games to uh, I want to say it was fifty
two games, and then they went to of course what
we just saw now and sixty eight games, so they
they have to completely close this thing, win this thing
in order for you it was fifty seven games, I mean,
not short change them. So they went from forty games
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to then fifty seven last year, which is a whole
lot of games, and then obviously sixty eight this year.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So they're on their way.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They need to seal the deal with the championship to say,
look at the run, look at the improvement, look what
we've done, and they can, you know, say now we're
hoisting you know, the Larry O'Brien.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
But I do still think time. We like to. We
like time.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So we can then say, oh, you were either dynastic
or at least you had a very very good run. Right,
so if you good, that's why the Bad Boys are significant.
Even though they didn't three peat, even though they didn't
you know, win as many as other people. They only
got two, but they went to finals in eighty eight,
eighty nine to ninety and they had you know, three
runs five they want to So they had that kind
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of run where now we talk about them, we know
what the Lakers did in the eighties. We know what
the Shaq and Kobe Lakers did. We know what the
Celtics did in the eighties. Uh, we know what the
Chicago Bulls did. So they're gonna have to have a
sustained run because we'd like to lump you in that
you did this for a sustained amount of time.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, I just I just think.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, they're hanging by a string.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And I'm that serious because they have to close the
deal to even have any kind of conversation.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
People will forget about this team overnight. They if they
don't win.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Mass disappointment. Yeah, but that team that had all that
didn't do nothing records, and I believe that.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I think that's how because people are still like about them,
you know, so so, not want so so, but so.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So, and they gotta win.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Winning is the ultimate and that's how you cement your
where people look and say, you know what, they're the
best team.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
All year, they go blah blah, they but playoffs go
they wont.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I would argue ra they got to win a lot more,
meaning maybe not even championship, but they got to win
this year. They got to get to a finals a
game maybe next year or the year, like it has
to be.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A four year run.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I've a lost of you know, sustained like oh wow,
they were really good or they were very very great.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I always say that what happened, what helped the Pistons
in two thousand and four Pistons, is that they went
back to the finals the next year. So people who
wanted to say that was that's what I mean, you know,
like like like they just couldn't say it was a
fluke because they went back the next year. And if
you remember, they beat Shaq and Dwayne Wade, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What I mean to get there. It was in Miami
in the game seven.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Have to mention they went to what six Eastern College
Finals in a row, So I mean they and I.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Said, really really cemented how good that team was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And I think that's why they're more memorable than this
Thunder team would be as of now, as of now,
because they beat an amazing, you know, Laker team with
Shaq and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Kobe and he always frowns to this day, I know,
why are you bringing up old stuff?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Go ahead, that's what they.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Went to vabion him in eleventy thousand years.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's all right talk, but it's I want to get
Shaq and Kobe though. That was the one.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Roger the Pistons, they're not the Lakers or Celtics, but
they've had it for the last thirty years or so.
You know, they got they got what five finals appearance
or something like that. I mean, they they've done all
right for themselves compared to a lot of other organizations.
You gotta at least give them that. I'm sorry, I know,
my bad, Robgie, but they got damp.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yourself, y'all, can't help yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's they got the win. They went back against the Spurs,
went to seven with them. They had Eastern Conference battles
versus those you know, those early KG Paul Pierce, the
Big Three, Celtics versus Lebron. Lebron gave him that crazy
twenty five straight moment. My point is they had epic battles.
They had they had a named Detroit Basketball. They had
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identify Ben Wallace with the afro and the flames that
go up and the gong and Rashid Wallace and Chauncey
and Rip so the thunder are missing a lot of
those things, and they got a lot of guys who
just don't know, they don't have a signature thing, a
signature move, and it's just really good basketball. But in
American pop culture, in the lexicon of things, that doesn't
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just cut it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
You being really good at something.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know, any musicians are very talented, amazing at playing
the guitar or.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
The piano, and we go, yeah, they're they're really good.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know how many people have number one records, big
number one records that you go, if I said their name,
you'd be.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Like, well, well but that, but that that could be
this team with the one offs. And I'll give you
the perfect example of we just talked about it. One
hit wonders in music, where somehow somewhere you got the
right song right, you put it together, you put all
your energy. A lot of people do that, and that's
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why it's the consistency is being able to do it
more than once. That's when people really take notice and go, Okay,
they got something. You know, because a lot of people,
for one shot on one try can win. The stars
can align and you can win. Once Tom Izzel won
a national championship twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Rob you did so good.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You went about two months now, Tom telling you man,
he gonna swing on you when he sees you, he
gonna I'm just gonna stand on the He's gonna stand
on the apple box and swing on you. My last
point with this, we did talk about this last week.
I believe it was I do believe they have the
makings to be what we're talking about. In that I
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told you they went from forty wins to fifty seven
sixty eight. Now they're in the finals. They have the MVP.
Jayalen Williams is growing before our eyes. Chit, guys, I
think the West's star quality, oh it is, but all
night there, all the picks they have, all the young
talent they have coming up who just are waiting to
get even more playing time. They have the makings to
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have that that potential to be a team that we
go shoot, you know, ten years from now, twenty year,
remember that Oka see team. But they gotta get a
day too, rob Who we gonna call them? They ain't
the Heatles, they ain't the bad boys. They at the
Showtime Lakers. They ain't the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. Like
where we gonna call them.
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Shaq
has a new show on Netflix that's coming out, and
and it's been very quietly getting boosted out on social media.
Netflix is putting out little teaser videos, and he said
something in the most recent teaser video that raised people's eyebrows.
Not for the reasons you would think. Here's the reason
why this is important. Flash back to March Steph Curry
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in the world years were on TNT, Steph pad phenomenal performance.
Here's what Shaq said about Steph after that game on
March fourth.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
As the supreme leader of the Big Man Alliance, I
demand you fans to start putting Steph Curry in that
greatest of all time conversation. Just start putting them in
the conversation with the conversation toron Kobe Lebron. Start putting
stuff in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So that's one the latest Netflix promo video for his
new show coming out, Shaq decided to give his list
of the ten greatest players in NBA history. I'll go
in to order from ten to one. Number ten, Doctor
j number nine, Tim Duncan number eight, Akeeme The Dream
number seven, Larry Bird number six, Well the Still number five,
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Bill Russell number four, Maggie Johnson number three, Lebron James
number two, Kobe Bryant number one, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Somebody's missing from that lobody Steph Curry on that list.
Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Okay, and this is exhibit A on why you guys
need to stop listening to these athlete podcasts and seriously
because everything is prisoner of the moment, no research, no
being consistent and having I mean, how in the world
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could he beat his chest after a great Steph Curry
performance right on TNT national television talking about he should
be in the greatest of all time conversation, but he's
not in his top ten lists.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It's as a nine. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
This is what you.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Get over and over and over. Where's the consistency, where's
the research? We're stop the knee jerk reaction. How can
we take shack seriously when at one minute he's talking
about how great Steph is and talking about the goat.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Right when you talk about the goat, this is about.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Two or three people. He said he should be in
the Go Conversation, but he's not. Kelvin in the top
ten list on Shack's list. How does that make sense? Guys,
stop it, Turn those podcasts off, put on earphones, on
ear muffs.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Stop listening.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What are they doing? They're just talking. You know why
they have podcasts. I'm gonna tell you why. They're extremely bored.
They have nothing else to do. That's why they're talking.
Because most of it doesn't make sense. Shack makes absolutely
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no sense. How if you were to ask him or
call him on I'm sure he's on the podcast, Rob
g Kevin. I don't know if he has a co
host or anything. I guarantee you guarantee you on that show,
Nobody pushed back or oldbody brought up, Well, Shack, didn't
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you say Stephans should be in the Go Conversation? That's
what you need, You need to be pushed. I'm not
surprised by this at all.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
All right, let me let me go in here.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Listen, we all love Shack for exactly where Shaq is,
but this is what makes me crazy about this.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
First of all, let's break down a couple of things.
Forget steph Curry. Where was Kareem abdul Jabbar.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
How do you not have Kareem abdul Jabbar in the
top ten?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Did I miss something? Southposteros, I read this top ten?
I read it. I heard you say, did I hear Kareem?
Maybe I reserve? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
How do you not have a list of top ten
and not have Kareem Abdul Jabbar number one. You're a
fellow big man of the big Man Alliance and he
was these big man for years and years and years.
The all time leader is scorer until Lebron in the
last He's probably.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
The greatest basketball player every leave, probably from at college
to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
He has all the MVPs.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He is a Laker whom groomed you. You spend time
with and talking tutelitch. How do you leave Kareem off
when he really in my opinion, you can't go further
than three without mentioned Kareem. I agree if the team
I got some issues. If you go past three, now
you can maybe you put Lebron okay, Kobe okay, get
(22:23):
MJ and Kareem gotta be in the three. Okay. That
that that's just mandatory. Now, that's before I even get
to a Steph Curry conversation. So I didn't hear Kareem.
I'm disappointed in that. Now let's get to the Steph conversation.
Shaq is mixing up most fascinating, most entertaining, or greatest
shooter or more selectrifying with greatest.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
He is not even connessation conversation of the greatest of
all time.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And that's not a knock on him, because you could
argue if you if someone said, hey, he was my
favorite player to watch, I could completely understand that he's
the greatest shooter I've ever seen. Completely would concur if
you said he was the most electric five. I'm right
there with you. I can understand that. But he's not
in the list the greatest of all time. And then
if he was, he ain't even on your list, Shack.
So that just shows me. You're watching the game on
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a Thursday on TNT. You see him hit eight threes
in a quarter or something crazy, and you wish.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You could do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Because Shaq whish is he was a guard. He talks
about it all the time, and I think it's just
to them admiration for what he couldn't do. The handles,
the crazy layups, the shooting, and I think he admires
it so much that it is affecting his real opinion
on what goat is because he knows good and well
Steph knows he can't be in the goat conversation. And
(23:40):
I get mad when people say he's the greatest point
guard of all time because he's still not better than Magic.
And so that's just crazy, robs both of y'all that
he would not you say he's the goat, then he's
not on the goat list. Kareem ain't on the goat list, Shaq.
I just love Shack for who he is, but pure
basketball analytics and analysis, I should say, I'm not coming
(24:01):
to Shack for that. And I love Diesel, the DJ,
the humor, the philanthropy. No, but that's not what he's
doing there.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And this case this ain't that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
But in this case, he's given you his basketball IQ
and and and and information.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
And now.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It to me that that's exactly because now you're because
now you're like Weday, really, Shack just made a list
of top ten and a Kareem's not on it, and
and he said Steph Curry was one of the all
time greats and he's not on it either.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I mean, like none of it makes sense. This is
what I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Talking about, Like like it's it's depending on the day
and prisoner of the moment and all that kind of
crazy stuff. We've heard, rob g how many times where
we have to we shook our heads over the years,
right when these podcasts and people are talking about stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
There's been a couple other where we just were like,
what they played the game supposedly and told us that
we don't know it.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, there's a few people that do that. They have
these moments. You're like, bro, what are you watching?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Did you did you hear Gilbert Arenas today or.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
See what he says?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Part?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
What part he called?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
He called kat the B word and said he talked
about the man's hips really really.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And it was disappointing about that. And I mean it's sincerely,
gil is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
He has his moments.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But what's disappointing about that is I just got done
watching the Shooting Guard documentary. Did you guys see that
or know about what it's about? And it's the gun issues? Yeah,
and he talks about how he felt bad, you know,
because maybe he played a role in the downfall of
Crittington with the whole gun charge, who then will go
off and murder a young lady. And I know he's
(25:51):
just being funny er, but dude, like coming from you,
Karl Anthony Towns already has to deal with this from
everybody opened up his phone first thing you gonna see
all the time. But then from a guy who played
the game, I would imagine at least have had some
interaction of time or two like that's.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Just going too far.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And you see what you do when you bully, when
you tease, and you saw what the Critington situation, and
I just felt like that was going way too far.
You can say he's the worst defender and everybody's going
at him like as he mentioned, cool with that, but
like you started disrespecting the man's anad at me and
all this and how he's building, Like all right, you
going too far now, Carl Anthony Towns is the mess
around and going spiral into some crazy depression like here
(26:30):
we go again kind of a thing. So I just, yeah,
he took that one way too far, because it wasn't
just talking about how bad he was defensively or how
horrible you know, maybe he his athleticism is he took
it way too far.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I was disappointed in that.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Crazy I just told you all right eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. Do you have a problem with
Shaq and some of these athletes podcasts. I'm not saying,
of course, there's some who are put in some work
and think about it and not just.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Throw stuff out, but a lot of them are all
over the place.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
No consistency. I mean just embarrassing. Like seriously, even the
Netflix people who released Shacks list or whatever, like, no
is nobody mind in the store. Seriously, somebody should be
there to say, Shaq, let me say this to you.
I don't think that's the list you want to have.
Do you know why Cowem's not on the list? Like, seriously,
(27:29):
that's why you have write editors and producers. Rob G's
our producer. You know how many times I've been in
the meeting and they said, Rob, don't say that.
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If you didn't see, you missed a bombshell dropped by
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you know, he had the TNT picks, he had the
elam ending at all those things.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
None of them worked.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
People hated the game. They said it was terrible to watch.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
They even had the NBA PA come out and speak
to players to say, how can we get you to
play hard? Well, Adam Silver thinks he has just the
and that is starting next season, the new All Star
Game format will be Team USA versus the World.
Speaker 6 (01:08):
Thank you, and this is a public service message for
Adam Silver. Hello, is this on, Adam Silver, Do us
a favor. Don't try to fix the NBA All Star
Game and don't show up with this tired ole USA
(01:28):
versus the world that has been tried and done by
a million people. Adam Silver, you want to do something,
make the right call, do the right thing, and cancel
the NBA All Star Game. You heard me right, Cancel
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the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
It's a bore. It's outdated. Nobody wants it.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
The players don't even want to play in it. It's
an embarrassment to your league. Stop fiddling. You've been doing
a tinkering with this. You know they say, don't fix it.
If it ain't broke, it's broke, and it can't be fixed.
Even the NFL, which still got ratings with the Pro Bowl,
(02:21):
realize it's antiquated. It's no good. Nobody wants to watch
it or participate. Guess what they did. They pulled the plug,
Adam Silver, pull the plug. It's okay, things change, times change.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
It's alright. Nobody wants to play.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
The scores are over two hundred for an NBA game.
Everything is a three point shot or that's embarrassing. He's
sent in two of the greatest players to go talk to.
There's a couple of years ago about playing hard Larry
Bird and Doctor j and what happened. They turned into
(03:10):
absolutely awful performance after hearing those two legends talk to
them and begged them to play hard for the fans.
These players don't care about the All Star Game enough already,
Adam Silver, finally do something.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
You want to fix your legacy.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Be the guy who was a man enough to say,
you know what, we gotta make a change.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
And the change has.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
To be real, and a real change would be to
cancel the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I get your sentiment, will you?
Speaker 1 (03:52):
And I talked about this this past February. Is disappointing,
it's upsetting, it's confusing in a sense of hey, guys,
or forty forty eight minutes of your life, can you
give it your all? And it shouldn't be difficult to sell,
especially considering out these are the fans, whether they're viewing,
whether they're in public, whether they're at the game, or
the sponsors, by the way, that allow you to have
(04:15):
these salaries and.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Live the life that you live.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
But it ain't going nowhere, and so if it ain't
going nowhere. I think this is the last This is
Custar's last stand Rob.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
This is something I.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Believe that maybe just made me could work, And I'll
tell you my theory on why, because one of the
things you have to play for usually you have to
have some reason, right, And I know it should just
simply be the fans, like, hey, they're doing this for
the fans, but it obviously hasn't been. And I also
believe these young guys, I don't think they don't want
to play.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
I don't think they know how.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
To I think they have a zero or one hundred,
meaning they don't know how to give us seventy five percent.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
I think they know it's either all in or we're just.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
We're letting it go and guys are dunking and were shooting threes.
I don't genuinely think they know how to do the perfect,
but I think this is it. They're hearing that all
the last six seven MVPs have been non American born
and the world has the best players yann Is, Yo kids, Luca, Sga,
and I think this would be the last hope in
(05:16):
a sense that one thing we call unite about it
wasn't COVID It won't be when the Aliens invade. It
won't be when the big huge rock is coming to
crush earth. The only time we all come together, black, white, Latino, gay, Strait,
Christian Muslim is the Olympics boy for two weeks, America
(05:38):
comes together like never before. If you failed from Mars,
you would think we are the most united country or
in the world.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
In most countries, they come together for that. And if
you can have a.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
World versus usay, that might be the thing that starts
some little bit of you know, tension, little friction, little
one to prove that we're the best.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
You heard Kevin durand Er in the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So about Yeah, other countries are putting players in the league,
and yeah they got some MVPs. But we still have
the best talent of the best product, and I think
this would be it.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Rob. I echo your frustration.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think all of us do, especially those of us
who have been watching for thirty forty years and seeing
how great it's been and knowing what you could expect
and getting excited about it and it hasn't been the same.
This is the last hope for me that maybe, just
maybe we could get that intensity back in the competitiveness back.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
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Speaker 6 (06:39):
App talking about OKC and their dominance and what kind
of year they had in the postseason that they've had,
add a couple of clunkers, but for the most part,
they demolished the opponents.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
You know, I mean, that's what word I would use.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
But I think there's a difference here, And this is
where we're trying to get at.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Is Okay, see.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Having a great season, but they're not a great team.
Like there are people trying to say this is an
all time great team and whatnot.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I just can't get there.
Speaker 6 (07:18):
I don't care what numbers, how many games they won,
do you know what I mean? The margin of victory,
But could I honestly say that they're having a great
season a season for the ages.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
I told you this before. This could very easily be
a one off.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
And I'm not saying that, you know what I mean,
We're gonna erase them and they're gonna be bad and
not gonna make that I'm not but I mean, as
well as they've played, everything's going right for them, do
you know what I mean? There's a lot of that
things could change next year with SGA and how referees
officiate him after this whole year, right, they might go, oh,
(08:00):
giving them too much? Maybe where do you know the
tiki tags? Maybe and maybe not get that because we
saw that with James Harden. Do you remember when they
stopped giving them the foul call in the postseason?
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Right, I mean that's what he did all year.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
He's like, hold on, wait what get right?
Speaker 6 (08:17):
I've been getting this call all year and it changed
to who he was in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Yeah? I mean, well, we don't know what has been
wrong with him over the years.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It's just you know what I mean. But I totally
get what you're saying. I want to let you finish
your thought before if you yeah, I think so here.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Season to me, right right?
Speaker 4 (08:40):
And I think that's a fair point.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I think what's challenging with what this team is is
that when you just look at the numbers, they are
a great at all time great team. When you look
at the point differential between the regular season and postseason
around twelve thirteen points. I mean, they've set records with that.
When you look at what they've done defensively, they're setting records.
They have MVP who's doing historic things three years, scoring
(09:02):
thirty plus shooting fifty percent from the field only I
believe Jordan has done that.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So from a literal.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Analytical standpoint, just straight numbers and facts, they are an
all time great team. But to me, and I've mentioned
this before, what makes an all time great team is identifiers, things, moments, names,
and they're not there yet. Some of it's not their fault,
meaning the season isn't over. Maybe they have a great
(09:30):
finals and then you know, we have some epic finals
where it's up being a six to seven game battle
series battle, and you just there's great moments.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
There's a couple of game winners.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
The SGA hits one and Tyree's Helliburton hits one, and
we remember that. But as of right now, I keep
mentioning this them just blowing people out, them just having
guys who are really good at their roles and really
good players as part of their team, but they're not identifiable,
they're not stars. I think that takes away from it.
And so what they're having is a historically great season
(10:00):
to your point, but it's nothing memorable or identifiable other
than they're really good defensively.
Speaker 6 (10:05):
Let men, you interject real cool, say they don't win
a championship.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Uh huh, No one.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Will say they were an all time team, absolutely saying
you see what I'm saying. And that's with all of
the accolades and everything you just mentioned. Nobody would say, oh,
I will only all time great teams. I know they
didn't win a championship, but they were. It would race everything.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And I'm gonna add to that the reason why the
Warriors don't get that as much as maybe people want to.
When they won seventy three games, and obviously the finals
they didn't win, but they could at least say we
won before this, so you go, all right, that was
a great run. And then obviously we would know they
were going to win a couple more. But my point
is they had that in the bag that they could
(10:50):
at least say we won a championship prior to this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
This okay s team.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
If they don't win, then you're just saying, oh, well, wow,
they're just continuously on their way. They went from forty
games to uh, I want to say it was fifty
two games, and then they went to of course what
we just saw now and sixty eight games, so they
they have to completely close this thing, win this thing
in order for you it was fifty seven games, I mean,
not short change them. So they went from forty games
(11:19):
to then fifty seven last year, which is a whole
lot of games, and then obviously sixty eight this year.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
So they're on their way.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
They need to seal the deal with the championship to say,
look at the run, look at the improvement, look what
we've done, and they can, you know, say now we're
hoisting you know, the Larry O'Brien.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
But I do still think time. We like to. We
like time.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
So we can then say, oh, you were either dynastic
or at least you had a very very good run. Right,
so if you good, that's why the Bad Boys are significant.
Even though they didn't three peat, even though they didn't
you know, win as many as other people. They only
got two, but they went to finals in eighty eight,
eighty nine to ninety and they had you know, three
runs five they want to So they had that kind
(12:02):
of run where now we talk about them, we know
what the Lakers did in the eighties. We know what
the Shaq and Kobe Lakers did. We know what the
Celtics did in the eighties. Uh, we know what the
Chicago Bulls did. So they're gonna have to have a
sustained run because we'd like to lump you in that
you did this for a sustained amount of time.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yeah, I just I just think.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Yeah, they're hanging by a string.
Speaker 6 (12:24):
And I'm that serious because they have to close the
deal to even have any kind of conversation.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
People will forget about this team overnight. They if they
don't win.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Mass disappointment. Yeah, but that team that had all that
didn't do nothing records, and I believe that.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
I think that's how because people are still like about them,
you know, so so, not want so so, but so.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
So, and they gotta win.
Speaker 6 (12:56):
Winning is the ultimate and that's how you cement your
where people look and say, you know what, they're the
best team.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
All year, they go blah blah, they but playoffs go
they wont.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I would argue ra they got to win a lot more,
meaning maybe not even championship, but they got to win
this year. They got to get to a finals a
game maybe next year or the year, like it has
to be.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
A four year run.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I've a lost of you know, sustained like oh wow,
they were really good or they were very very great.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
I always say that what happened, what helped the Pistons
in two thousand and four Pistons, is that they went
back to the finals the next year. So people who
wanted to say that was that's what I mean, you know,
like like like they just couldn't say it was a
fluke because they went back the next year. And if
you remember, they beat Shaq and Dwayne Wade, you know.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
What I mean to get there. It was in Miami
in the game seven.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Have to mention they went to what six Eastern College
Finals in a row, So I mean they and I.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Said, really really cemented how good that team was.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
And I think that's why they're more memorable than this
Thunder team would be as of now, as of now,
because they beat an amazing, you know, Laker team with
Shaq and.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Kobe and he always frowns to this day, I know,
why are you bringing up old stuff?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Go ahead, that's what they.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Went to vabion him in eleventy thousand years.
Speaker 5 (14:16):
That's all right talk, but it's I want to get
Shaq and Kobe though. That was the one.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Roger the Pistons, they're not the Lakers or Celtics, but
they've had it for the last thirty years or so.
You know, they got they got what five finals appearance
or something like that. I mean, they they've done all
right for themselves compared to a lot of other organizations.
You gotta at least give them that. I'm sorry, I know,
my bad, Robgie, but they got damp.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yourself, y'all, can't help yourself.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's they got the win. They went back against the Spurs,
went to seven with them. They had Eastern Conference battles
versus those you know, those early KG Paul Pierce, the
Big Three, Celtics versus Lebron. Lebron gave him that crazy
twenty five straight moment. My point is they had epic battles.
They had they had a named Detroit Basketball. They had
(15:00):
identify Ben Wallace with the afro and the flames that
go up and the gong and Rashid Wallace and Chauncey
and Rip so the thunder are missing a lot of
those things, and they got a lot of guys who
just don't know, they don't have a signature thing, a
signature move, and it's just really good basketball. But in
American pop culture, in the lexicon of things, that doesn't
(15:25):
just cut it.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
You being really good at something.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
You know, any musicians are very talented, amazing at playing
the guitar or.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
The piano, and we go, yeah, they're they're really good.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
You know how many people have number one records, big
number one records that you go, if I said their name,
you'd be.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
Like, well, well but that, but that that could be
this team with the one offs. And I'll give you
the perfect example of we just talked about it. One
hit wonders in music, where somehow somewhere you got the
right song right, you put it together, you put all
your energy. A lot of people do that, and that's
(16:00):
why it's the consistency is being able to do it
more than once. That's when people really take notice and go, Okay,
they got something. You know, because a lot of people,
for one shot on one try can win. The stars
can align and you can win. Once Tom Izzel won
a national championship twenty five.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Rob you did so good.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
You went about two months now, Tom telling you man,
he gonna swing on you when he sees you, he
gonna I'm just gonna stand on the He's gonna stand
on the apple box and swing on you. My last
point with this, we did talk about this last week.
I believe it was I do believe they have the
makings to be what we're talking about. In that I
(16:46):
told you they went from forty wins to fifty seven
sixty eight. Now they're in the finals. They have the MVP.
Jayalen Williams is growing before our eyes. Chit, guys, I
think the West's star quality, oh it is, but all
night there, all the picks they have, all the young
talent they have coming up who just are waiting to
get even more playing time. They have the makings to
(17:08):
have that that potential to be a team that we
go shoot, you know, ten years from now, twenty year,
remember that Oka see team. But they gotta get a
day too, rob Who we gonna call them? They ain't
the Heatles, they ain't the bad boys. They at the
Showtime Lakers. They ain't the Shaq and Kobe Lakers. Like
where we gonna call them.
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
I don't know if you guys saw this, but Shaq
has a new show on Netflix that's coming out, and
and it's been very quietly getting boosted out on social media.
Netflix is putting out little teaser videos, and he said
something in the most recent teaser video that raised people's eyebrows.
Not for the reasons you would think. Here's the reason
why this is important. Flash back to March Steph Curry
(17:59):
in the world years were on TNT, Steph pad phenomenal performance.
Here's what Shaq said about Steph after that game on
March fourth.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
As the supreme leader of the Big Man Alliance, I
demand you fans to start putting Steph Curry in that
greatest of all time conversation. Just start putting them in
the conversation with the conversation toron Kobe Lebron. Start putting
stuff in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
So that's one the latest Netflix promo video for his
new show coming out, Shaq decided to give his list
of the ten greatest players in NBA history. I'll go
in to order from ten to one. Number ten, Doctor
j number nine, Tim Duncan number eight, Akeeme The Dream
number seven, Larry Bird number six, Well the Still number five,
(18:44):
Bill Russell number four, Maggie Johnson number three, Lebron James
number two, Kobe Bryant number one, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
Somebody's missing from that lobody Steph Curry on that list.
Rob Parker.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
Okay, and this is exhibit A on why you guys
need to stop listening to these athlete podcasts and seriously
because everything is prisoner of the moment, no research, no
being consistent and having I mean, how in the world
(19:17):
could he beat his chest after a great Steph Curry
performance right on TNT national television talking about he should
be in the greatest of all time conversation, but he's
not in his top ten lists.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
It's as a nine. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
This is what you.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
Get over and over and over. Where's the consistency, where's
the research? We're stop the knee jerk reaction. How can
we take shack seriously when at one minute he's talking
about how great Steph is and talking about the goat.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Right when you talk about the goat, this is about.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Two or three people. He said he should be in
the Go Conversation, but he's not. Kelvin in the top
ten list on Shack's list. How does that make sense? Guys,
stop it, Turn those podcasts off, put on earphones, on
ear muffs.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
Stop listening.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What are they doing? They're just talking. You know why
they have podcasts. I'm gonna tell you why. They're extremely bored.
They have nothing else to do. That's why they're talking.
Because most of it doesn't make sense. Shack makes absolutely
(20:42):
no sense. How if you were to ask him or
call him on I'm sure he's on the podcast, Rob
g Kevin. I don't know if he has a co
host or anything. I guarantee you guarantee you on that show,
Nobody pushed back or oldbody brought up, Well, Shack, didn't
(21:02):
you say Stephans should be in the Go Conversation? That's
what you need, You need to be pushed. I'm not
surprised by this at all.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
All right, let me let me go in here.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Listen, we all love Shack for exactly where Shaq is,
but this is what makes me crazy about this.
Speaker 4 (21:21):
First of all, let's break down a couple of things.
Forget steph Curry. Where was Kareem abdul Jabbar.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
How do you not have Kareem abdul Jabbar in the
top ten?
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Did I miss something? Southposteros, I read this top ten?
I read it. I heard you say, did I hear Kareem?
Maybe I reserve? Maybe?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
How do you not have a list of top ten
and not have Kareem Abdul Jabbar number one. You're a
fellow big man of the big Man Alliance and he
was these big man for years and years and years.
The all time leader is scorer until Lebron in the
last He's probably.
Speaker 6 (21:56):
The greatest basketball player every leave, probably from at college
to the NBA.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
He has all the MVPs.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He is a Laker whom groomed you. You spend time
with and talking tutelitch. How do you leave Kareem off
when he really in my opinion, you can't go further
than three without mentioned Kareem. I agree if the team
I got some issues. If you go past three, now
you can maybe you put Lebron okay, Kobe okay, get
(22:23):
MJ and Kareem gotta be in the three. Okay. That
that that's just mandatory. Now, that's before I even get
to a Steph Curry conversation. So I didn't hear Kareem.
I'm disappointed in that. Now let's get to the Steph conversation.
Shaq is mixing up most fascinating, most entertaining, or greatest
shooter or more selectrifying with greatest.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
He is not even connessation conversation of the greatest of
all time.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
And that's not a knock on him, because you could
argue if you if someone said, hey, he was my
favorite player to watch, I could completely understand that he's
the greatest shooter I've ever seen. Completely would concur if
you said he was the most electric five. I'm right
there with you. I can understand that. But he's not
in the list the greatest of all time. And then
if he was, he ain't even on your list, Shack.
So that just shows me. You're watching the game on
(23:13):
a Thursday on TNT. You see him hit eight threes
in a quarter or something crazy, and you wish.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You could do that.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Because Shaq whish is he was a guard. He talks
about it all the time, and I think it's just
to them admiration for what he couldn't do. The handles,
the crazy layups, the shooting, and I think he admires
it so much that it is affecting his real opinion
on what goat is because he knows good and well
Steph knows he can't be in the goat conversation. And
(23:40):
I get mad when people say he's the greatest point
guard of all time because he's still not better than Magic.
And so that's just crazy, robs both of y'all that
he would not you say he's the goat, then he's
not on the goat list. Kareem ain't on the goat list, Shaq.
I just love Shack for who he is, but pure
basketball analytics and analysis, I should say, I'm not coming
(24:01):
to Shack for that. And I love Diesel, the DJ,
the humor, the philanthropy. No, but that's not what he's
doing there.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And this case this ain't that.
Speaker 6 (24:10):
But in this case, he's given you his basketball IQ
and and and and information.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
And now.
Speaker 6 (24:18):
It to me that that's exactly because now you're because
now you're like Weday, really, Shack just made a list
of top ten and a Kareem's not on it, and
and he said Steph Curry was one of the all
time greats and he's not on it either.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
I mean, like none of it makes sense. This is
what I'm.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Talking about, Like like it's it's depending on the day
and prisoner of the moment and all that kind of
crazy stuff. We've heard, rob g how many times where
we have to we shook our heads over the years,
right when these podcasts and people are talking about stuff.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I can't remember.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
There's been a couple other where we just were like,
what they played the game supposedly and told us that
we don't know it.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, there's a few people that do that. They have
these moments. You're like, bro, what are you watching?
Speaker 5 (25:08):
Did you did you hear Gilbert Arenas today or.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
See what he says?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Part?
Speaker 4 (25:12):
What part he called?
Speaker 6 (25:13):
He called kat the B word and said he talked
about the man's hips really really.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And it was disappointing about that. And I mean it's sincerely,
gil is hilarious.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
He has his moments.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
But what's disappointing about that is I just got done
watching the Shooting Guard documentary. Did you guys see that
or know about what it's about? And it's the gun issues? Yeah,
and he talks about how he felt bad, you know,
because maybe he played a role in the downfall of
Crittington with the whole gun charge, who then will go
off and murder a young lady. And I know he's
(25:51):
just being funny er, but dude, like coming from you,
Karl Anthony Towns already has to deal with this from
everybody opened up his phone first thing you gonna see
all the time. But then from a guy who played
the game, I would imagine at least have had some
interaction of time or two like that's.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Just going too far.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
And you see what you do when you bully, when
you tease, and you saw what the Critington situation, and
I just felt like that was going way too far.
You can say he's the worst defender and everybody's going
at him like as he mentioned, cool with that, but
like you started disrespecting the man's anad at me and
all this and how he's building, Like all right, you
going too far now, Carl Anthony Towns is the mess
around and going spiral into some crazy depression like here
(26:30):
we go again kind of a thing. So I just, yeah,
he took that one way too far, because it wasn't
just talking about how bad he was defensively or how
horrible you know, maybe he his athleticism is he took
it way too far.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I was disappointed in that.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Crazy I just told you all right eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox. Do you have a problem with
Shaq and some of these athletes podcasts. I'm not saying,
of course, there's some who are put in some work
and think about it and not just.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Throw stuff out, but a lot of them are all
over the place.
Speaker 6 (27:05):
No consistency. I mean just embarrassing. Like seriously, even the
Netflix people who released Shacks list or whatever, like, no
is nobody mind in the store. Seriously, somebody should be
there to say, Shaq, let me say this to you.
I don't think that's the list you want to have.
Do you know why Cowem's not on the list? Like, seriously,
(27:29):
that's why you have write editors and producers. Rob G's
our producer. You know how many times I've been in
the meeting and they said, Rob, don't say that.
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