June 6, 2025 • 23 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether last night’s Game 1 thriller proves that the Indiana Pacers are a team of destiny, tell us why the pitiful Game 1 television ratings were very predictable, and argue whether it’s fair to say that Tyrese Haliburton has already won the postseason whether he winds up getting a ring or not.
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
I want to rename the Indiana Pacers. Okay, all right,
and I got a new name for them. Are you ready?
Come on, Sam, let's play it. I'm going back to
Wendiana Windyana.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Here I come. Okay, Windyana Pacers. I like that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We gotta call them the Windyanna Pacers because that's all
they do. All they do is win when, when when,
and when when they aren't supposed to. And you know
what that brings me to the Indiana Pacers. And you
just gotta be honest with yourself. They are on a
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destiny ride to be NBA champ.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
This is a destiny thing. I see it. I feel
that we can no longer ignore it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know a lot of people picked oh whatever, it
was a nice run by the Pacers. Last night was
a perfect example I mean, rob G had him getting swept.
So rob G, you know on Twitter, was assaulting today,
so I had to put him in his place. But
my point is for real, and you know I picked
him in six. But I feel even better after that win.
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Thin can only play better. They won't have twenty turnovers
in the first half, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Like, seriously, their clunker was in.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Game one on the road in Oklahoma City and they won.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
This is so clear to me.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Nobody go look at the odds at one point, rob Ge,
what was it one in seventy five million that they won?
One is seventy five million that they won the game
that they won, you know, and almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And I'm saying to you, we gotta look at this
team and there are teams of destiny. And that doesn't
mean okay, see or whatever. They have nice run and
don't compare this to oh, well, Denver won Game one
in the same fashion and they bounce back. No, no,
no no. And the other thing is pay attention. When
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the Celtics lost Game one, what everybody say, Oh, they'll
come back, Oh, just one game, they'll bounce back.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They lost Game two at home against the Knicks, when.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The Knicks lost Game one in the same fashion, when
they gave it up at the end fourteen points, two
minutes and thirty eight seconds. Okay, the Knicks will get
it together, They'll win Game two. No, they did not
win Game two. They fell behind two. I'm convinced that
the Indiana Pacers will win Game two at OKC.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And then this will be a six game series, kind
of like it was with the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I do believe that because they didn't play their best
game and they got a W and I was ultimately
convinced before the series that they were gonna win it
in six games. And now I'm convinced this is a
destiny this is where they are supposed to be, because
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you can't explain when a team plays like this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So I get exactly what you mean. We've all watched
this postseason. It's been a very fun ride. They've had
some amazing historic comebacks. They keep beating the odds. But
here's where I would say I don't agree with the
team of destiny, and that you could argue it's the
Oklahoma City Thunder. If you look at what the Oklahoma
City have Thunder have done over the last ten years,
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right that we know they get there some years ago.
They get there with obviously the MVPs, if you will,
James Harden Russell Westbrook KD.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They do that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They had a chance to do a three to one
up on the Warriors, they end up losing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That they've kind of been going through the gault.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Then they reconstructure, refigure this thing out, and now here
they are. So a couple of years ago they get
forty wins. Then last year they get fifty seven wins
and they get bounced, and then this year they get
sixty eight. Them franchise record SGA last year runner up
for the MVP, this year gets the MVP, they get
all the way to the finals. They have all types
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of records wherever you want to go with to talk
about the point differential, which is insane. Right now at
twelve point nine per game, they have now the thread
the record for sixty one wins between the regular and
postseason by double digits, which is absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And you brought it up, and I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're four and oh when they come off of losses
this postseason and they the average margin of victory it's
twenty points. So to me, I totally get what you meant,
as far as it's been fun watching this pacer team
and they have been exciting in it. And again we've
all raised our hand and said we slept on you.
You heard Scott Van Pelt say it to Tyre's Halliburn face,
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My bad dog, I was late to the party. You
and I've admitted no one really talked about them. But
you could say the same thing for the Thunder. This
has been coming from the Kadie Westbrook experiment, to the
then hardened part of the team, to the losing in
the finals there trying to figure this out, to the
Westbrook MVP years they've been this has been a long
time coming to me, and to me now it looks
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as if this is their season of destiny. And again
SGA loses MVP last year, get it. This year they
get knocked out early.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They make it back to me, that's not a destiny,
like like seriously, like you talking about Westbrook and all
that five eight years ago. I don't know how that
factors into this team, like as a destiny I.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Organized, but not a team of destiny.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Let me change the last couple of letters, Deth stenned
mean they were finals to win. This is making sense
on the trajectory of winning. This is exactly where they're
supposed to be to win. So I get what you mean.
This has been a magical This the magic moment in
the in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Though we've also seen you know that Detroit Pistons lost
to the Celtics before they won their two championships. We
saw other teams that got it, got there, stumbled in
the finals, and then they finally break through. So this
could be you might be right in some time, but
they might have to wait a year because the the
the Windiana Pacers are truly when you talk about a
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team of destiny. They weren't supposed to beat the box.
That that unbelievable come back. Remember we sat here, we're
almost that we almost.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
We don't looked straight ahead for about thirty seconds we could.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What they were up by seven. Like we looked and
we couldn't believe what was going on. Then we were
we were here when they came back.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
So we've seen them all.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
We saw the calves were we saw the knicks every
time we turned wait wait what so but but here's
my only thing too. This has been great, by the way,
and I told Rob g this, the NBA has to
be so ecstatic because that first half you almost thought
it was like, oh, shoot, here we go another blowout,
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Here we go again, and then you ultimately got what
we all wanted, close game coming down the wire and
Indiana would hit it pretty much a buzzer beater. So
the NBA has to be happy that people go, maybe
this is gonna be more of a series than a thought,
Maybe this is gonna be competitive, and maybe people will
continue to tune in. So they definitely looked out last point.
For me, Rob, I just am having a hard time
going against the numbers because all the numbers favor the
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thunder when you're talking defensively.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But that's where destiny comes in. The numbers don't matter.
And last night was the perfect example in that all
the numbers were in favor of you know, when you
turn the ball over that much and you.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Know that and you don't and you don't lead the
entire game?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Was it forty seven minutes and eighty nine points whatever?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Seven seconds it was seven like until that was point three,
Like that's that's incredible. And so that's the part where
where I bring up to destiny because numbers under, Destined
or destiny for the pacer.
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Speaker 3 (08:32):
Rob G do we have a news because a lot
of people thought it was a great game. So the
NBA was looking at his chops that the number is
going to be through the roof because we had a
great game to watch.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Mark I don't care. Where's Marks don Let's get him
on the line. Get the Stein line, guys.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It was the first time in eight years that game
one of the NBA Finals was decided by two points
or less, so that it was a big game.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It was a good game. It was exciting. We had
the game winner there at the end.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
You're gonna play that in NBA Finals v DVDs, Blu
Rays whatever for years to come. Only problem is not
a lot of people saw it okay. According to Sports Media,
watch game one of pasers, Thunder averaged a four point
seven rating and eight point nine to one million viewers
in ABC, making it the lowest rated and least watch
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Finals opener since they started tracking this thing in nineteen
eighty eight, of course, excluding the two COVID years, which
are totally thrown off.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Right, How shocked are you? How bad it is? We
knew it was gonna be bad, and you know there's
a story. Hang how bad? Bare media? Where? Or quotes
from last night where.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Adam Silver saying, I don't know why everybody's talking about ratings,
like like, you know about this ratings with this league? Yes, yes,
I hate to break it to you because it is nude.
Baseball's been beat up forever about TV rad stop it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Ratings aren't the end, doggy because somebody's paying you billions.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I get it. But they matter, right, you know because if.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They would go the NBA would be out here, if
there was the highest rating, oh my god, they would say,
see small market doesn't matter looking at the ratings. You
would be going around like crazy. Can't have it both ways.
It's like looks in a relationship. It ain't everything. But
if she fine, what you're gonna be doing? Hey, you're
gonna see my new girl. Dad, that's me right there,
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that's your boy right there. Let me see your picture
of real We see it. I'm doing out here, speaking
of it. You still got a screenshot of my wife
and your phone.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, no, I did delete. Okay, make sure shocked there
that bad.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But here, if I had to find an Adam silver lining,
it would be literally the fact that Tyres Halliburt hit
that shot. That would be the line, because it doesn't
matter how many people can I know the first game
is over, but I'm saying how many people went, oh shoot, wait, dang,
they actually won.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I had I had to throw. Here's why I don't
believe it's gonna matter. And I hear what you say
that you got.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Some curiosity now right, Oh shoot, it's a game, he said.
But it's the small markets and people.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, you can't act like it doesn't matter because the
proof positive is the San Antonio Spurs, who are a
fine organization with star players, and people still didn't watch,
so it didn't matter like what the series, if it
was closed or whatever was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's still a small market. And people talk about the
NBA not being regional.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It is because people in New York, who where the
Knicks got knocked out, they're interesting. I'm done, Celtics fans,
I'm done. I mean, you go on Laker fans, rob
g if it wasn't for work, you'd be like, the
Lakers are out, Am I am? I really all into this,
Like like I don't think I think a lot of
fans tune out when their teams get out get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I just I still go back to the old adage
of casual fans need stars.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Most people will just go, oh, man, the Finals, Oh
the Warriors. I'm in.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Tim Duncan was a story. Won five out of six champions.
Tim Duncan was the big fundamental. He was a star
for US basketball fan. That was it, you know what
I mean, Like he was an amazing want. So often
they say people like winners. I'm just saying we like
the market Side nets. The Nets had Jason Kidd and
had good players. They couldn't draw anything that was that
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not a fun team, rob g the Nets, the New
Jersey Nets.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Back at that time, it was over the place. It
was a fun watch. Jason Kidd, a Hall of Fame,
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The issue, right, I'm telling you, I don't disagree the
market size. Never disagree with market side. I mean, if
you have New York and LA and something last year
in the world, just that's automatic. I mean, come on,
you just it's it's just from the sheer people alone
in those markets. You're talking thirty something million in New
Major you know, New York City market, You're talking twenty
something million in the LA market. I mean, you're talking
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about a massive amount of people who are invested in
the Dodgers, or invested in the Yankees or the Lakers,
or would be the next if they could ever get
their butts back there. So uh, I didn't think it
would be that bad. Maybe there's some hope to bring
it back. We'll have to wait and see.
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Speaker 4 (13:12):
Man, we've been talking about it, obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The whole world is talking about Game one of the
NBA Finals and what happened at the end. Tyres Halapa
Lucy Tyre's Halliburton now four for four when it comes
to shots under two seconds. You're talking about game winners.
He is thirteen for fifteen with clutch shots, and the
season he has more than Lebron, more than Kobe, more
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than Jordan already in the playoff season. It is ridiculous.
What Tyrese Haliburton has already done. And I started to
think to myself, Rob Parker, I said to myself, And
after I said that, Tyrese Haliburton has put him in
a self for a position where at this point, after
last night, if they lose four straight, he has still
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won the postseason. He to me, has absolutely taken this
postseason by storm. He is the talk of the postseason.
He went from the most overrated to the most celebrated.
He's had the biggest storylines with all the buzzer beaters.
He even had his pops and the drama there. And
you know you need drama, you need storylines, you need
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juice to make things pop and then resonate and become
pop culture. You got buzzer beaters. He does the choke
sign to Reggie Miller. The way this team has come back.
And then you get to the NBA Finals and you
hit a game winner there, this is coming off again.
Where you played in the Olympics last year, you got
no minutes. So to me, Tyres Helliburton, even if they lose,
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has absolutely won the postseason. And sometimes that happens. I'll
give you an example. We've rest ferenced this game. This
person in this series a lot Lakers two thousand and one,
Lakers win the title and they go on to win,
and Shaq was absurd. He was dominant MVP and Rob
G you were obviously a Laker fan. You were living
here when that happened. No one remembers that series, do they?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You remember Alan Iverson balling out forty one points, stepping
over Tyron Leu And that is the thing from that series.
Now again, Tyres Haliburton is still shooting and playing to
win at the title. I'm not saying that the Pacers
want to win this thing for sure, but he has
won the postseason already. Give the man the crown already
for this he can only add to it. And one
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way Rob he can add to it is having a
Kendrick Lamar NBA version of Kendrick Lamar's rap year of
twenty twenty four into twenty twenty five. Kendrick Lamar was
mine and Thos business and just relaxing and him and
Drake get into it and he beats Drake down in
the beef.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He has the number one song with like that, and
then it becomes not like us.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Then he has the super Bowl performance, and then he
goes on a world tour with Siza and he had
the greatest rap year in rap history. And tyre Sylerburton.
If he were to win this thing and have one
more big moment, don't even have to be a buzzer beat.
But he has another perfect game, you know, thirty five,
fifteen to ten, no turnovers, then he will officially have
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dominated this postseason. It's been remarkable what he has done.
I stand here, I say, I apologize to you. We
ignored you all year. They've been the second best team
since January, first number one being the Thunder, and they've
been on an amazing ride. And Tyrese Saliburton, even in
the loss to me, rob has absolutely won this postseason.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Even if they lose in the finals.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Absolutely not. And this is again crowning people before. As
great as he's been. If they don't win the title,
people don't. They saw those shots, but it ain't the
same as winning and making those shots.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It's always about winning. Sports has a short menu.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've said it a million two times, wins and losses,
that's what people really think about, and and doing everything
leading It's just like the Thunder, all those numbers Oh,
they got the most double digit wins.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh they did this.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Oh they want to tell None of it matters if
they don't finish the job. I'm telling you, nobody talks
about the Warriors. What were they seventy three and nine?
Nobody talks about that team because they were They were
part of a three to one choke which never happened.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Nobody revers that team. They were unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
They didn't lose more than two games in a row
until the finals, when they did you know what I mean,
when they lost three in a row.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So so you gotta seal the deal. You have to win.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
The only way people will look at Halli Burton and
be like, my god, that dude is a start is
he has to win. If they lose the next four games,
you think people are gonna be talking about the shots that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He made in Game one? Yes, no, they will not
talk about this. They did the choke. He took the
mix out. No, he took the calves or he took
the best team in the East by far, the cast
and even the one moment, even the one moment with
the choke. He stole that from Regi Miller.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It ain't even it was homoe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, but he was paying.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Homage, no homage or homager homage. He was paying homage. No,
but even homage. For the rest of you who want
to say that to Reggie, Why don't you know Regie
Miller was sitting there, rob No.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But even then it's not his. And all I'm saying
to you is people will not celebrate that if they
don't win. You gotta win. Kelvin stopped trying to crown
people without winning. That's what's wrong with society. That's why
we have issues here. And these young people think they're
doing something without winning.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Look, you gotta win. Look at me right now. That
man has won these first three rounds. Now he's where
he's gotten that that that name I gave him earlier,
which one.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Indiana doesn't even work all the way unless they win
the championship. If they win the championship, you could see
right they're thirty for thirty Windyana.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Rogie, do me a favorite Google? How much is going
to cost me the trademark that you better guy? Even
though he did it, I'm a trademark. I'll give him.
Some happens every day somebody's already done it. They listen
to the show. You already listen what you said was cute,
it was adorable, and I'm pinching your cheeks.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was really cute. That is not the case, Rob Parker.
Can we cross the pinch cheek? Yeah, well if you're
on your face and make sure all right, or case
to clench cheek because now he's getting needles and stuff.
I mean, Rob, g optable. People just coming and you stab?
Are you stabbing yourself or is a wife doing it?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No? I stab myself? Do you really? Yep?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's come that far. You said you'd be dang with
the dumbbells a an elliptical that's coming later, going to
work out to it eventually. So how long does it
take for it to take hold of you and then
take pounds off you? Like, what's the I'm already down
a pound and a half in a day. No, you
just took it a good bathroom.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I really the hosted jam on now is so minimal
that it doesn't really do anything. It's not until next
month where I'm really cranking it up. Okay, all right,
anyway back, I'm gonna win this weight last challenge. By
the way, there you are, cheater.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
My point was Reggie Miller robs both of you.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Is Reggie Miller never won a championship, but all we
talk about was that ninety four run with those those
you know, the clutch plays that he was making against
those Knicks. So my point is sometimes SGA might go
on to win finals MVP. I predict that he will.
I predict him to win. But if it ends up
being just a normal series and he wins Finals MVP
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and they win in five or six, we won't think
about all he have ever that Thunder team. But when
I've Rich and Tyree's Halliburton, where I mentioned that that
run twenty twenty five playoffs, you're gonna think about how
he came back and beat the Bucks, how he came
back and beat the Cavs and hit big winners and
game winners, How he's four for four under two seconds,
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how he thirteen to fifteen on the season in crunch time,
clutch minutes, how he did the chokes on, how he
went to the hole said, ah, damn, you deflected. Let
me skirt all the way back and shoot a three,
which he thought was the three in the be the two.
And I just think he has had a remarkable run
with the narrative that he's the most overrated and he's
telling y'all to to shut up overrate this.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What is Pops going crazy about. The scrap with y'all
is when I sent that boy home. Nah, this has
been the tallaries Halliburnus.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
What the hell if he doesn't play well and he's
bad at the end and they lose three, they lose
the next four games. Right, No one's gonna be talking
about this postseason with Halliburton. What they're gonna talk about
r they're gonna talk about They're not. No, they're gonna
talk about Shaye getting a championship, got the MVP. It'll
be about him. It will not be about what Halliburton
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did in a failed run. Now, if they closed the deal,
they win the championship. Now you have a whole storyline, narrative.
You relived that you become a thirty for thirty. There
is no thirty for thirty without the championship.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And that's the point the original insanity. No, they had
the insanity one and he ain't do nothing, but for
two weeks, I was turned the man, got a thirty
for thirty up for two weeks. What they gonna do
with Tyres Halliburton. No, what the hell are they gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They're just making up stuff because it's not It's just like, uh,
what was the Baseball movie?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm always with the a Es. They didn't even want
to check, like they did this whole movie, a full
blown movie, and the best they did with.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm not that stuff doesn't have to be to win
the Midt. No, but they also they had to doctor
that up to make it more appeal. It's gonna be like, Okay,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Let me tell you what if you want to doctor
it and say that he won a championship doing all that,
they got a doctor.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know what, rob g you know what it is.
It's Rocky Rocky one.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
He lost the Apollo Creed and everybody loved Rocky was like, man,
that dude.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He fought Hardy made made a name for himself. Rocky.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, if you I can do it, you can do it,
and we can do it. This will be Tyrese Halabird.
He will be Rocky even if he loses. What the
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
I want to rename the Indiana Pacers. Okay, all right,
and I got a new name for them. Are you ready?
Come on, Sam, let's play it. I'm going back to
Wendiana Windyana.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Here I come. Okay, Windyana Pacers. I like that.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We gotta call them the Windyanna Pacers because that's all
they do. All they do is win when, when when,
and when when they aren't supposed to. And you know
what that brings me to the Indiana Pacers. And you
just gotta be honest with yourself. They are on a
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destiny ride to be NBA champ.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
This is a destiny thing. I see it. I feel
that we can no longer ignore it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
I know a lot of people picked oh whatever, it
was a nice run by the Pacers. Last night was
a perfect example I mean, rob G had him getting swept.
So rob G, you know on Twitter, was assaulting today,
so I had to put him in his place. But
my point is for real, and you know I picked
him in six. But I feel even better after that win.
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Thin can only play better. They won't have twenty turnovers
in the first half, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Like, seriously, their clunker was in.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Game one on the road in Oklahoma City and they won.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
This is so clear to me.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
Nobody go look at the odds at one point, rob Ge,
what was it one in seventy five million that they won?
One is seventy five million that they won the game
that they won, you know, and almost impossible.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And I'm saying to you, we gotta look at this
team and there are teams of destiny. And that doesn't
mean okay, see or whatever. They have nice run and
don't compare this to oh, well, Denver won Game one
in the same fashion and they bounce back. No, no,
no no. And the other thing is pay attention. When
(02:37):
the Celtics lost Game one, what everybody say, Oh, they'll
come back, Oh, just one game, they'll bounce back.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
They lost Game two at home against the Knicks, when.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
The Knicks lost Game one in the same fashion, when
they gave it up at the end fourteen points, two
minutes and thirty eight seconds. Okay, the Knicks will get
it together, They'll win Game two. No, they did not
win Game two. They fell behind two. I'm convinced that
the Indiana Pacers will win Game two at OKC.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And then this will be a six game series, kind
of like it was with the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I do believe that because they didn't play their best
game and they got a W and I was ultimately
convinced before the series that they were gonna win it
in six games. And now I'm convinced this is a
destiny this is where they are supposed to be, because
(03:33):
you can't explain when a team plays like this.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
So I get exactly what you mean. We've all watched
this postseason. It's been a very fun ride. They've had
some amazing historic comebacks. They keep beating the odds. But
here's where I would say I don't agree with the
team of destiny, and that you could argue it's the
Oklahoma City Thunder. If you look at what the Oklahoma
City have Thunder have done over the last ten years,
(03:59):
right that we know they get there some years ago.
They get there with obviously the MVPs, if you will,
James Harden Russell Westbrook KD.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They do that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
They had a chance to do a three to one
up on the Warriors, they end up losing.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
That they've kind of been going through the gault.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Then they reconstructure, refigure this thing out, and now here
they are. So a couple of years ago they get
forty wins. Then last year they get fifty seven wins
and they get bounced, and then this year they get
sixty eight. Them franchise record SGA last year runner up
for the MVP, this year gets the MVP, they get
all the way to the finals. They have all types
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of records wherever you want to go with to talk
about the point differential, which is insane. Right now at
twelve point nine per game, they have now the thread
the record for sixty one wins between the regular and
postseason by double digits, which is absolutely crazy.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
And you brought it up, and I'm gonna say it.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
They're four and oh when they come off of losses
this postseason and they the average margin of victory it's
twenty points. So to me, I totally get what you meant,
as far as it's been fun watching this pacer team
and they have been exciting in it. And again we've
all raised our hand and said we slept on you.
You heard Scott Van Pelt say it to Tyre's Halliburn face,
(05:10):
My bad dog, I was late to the party. You
and I've admitted no one really talked about them. But
you could say the same thing for the Thunder. This
has been coming from the Kadie Westbrook experiment, to the
then hardened part of the team, to the losing in
the finals there trying to figure this out, to the
Westbrook MVP years they've been this has been a long
time coming to me, and to me now it looks
(05:33):
as if this is their season of destiny. And again
SGA loses MVP last year, get it. This year they
get knocked out early.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They make it back to me, that's not a destiny,
like like seriously, like you talking about Westbrook and all
that five eight years ago. I don't know how that
factors into this team, like as a destiny I.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Organized, but not a team of destiny.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Let me change the last couple of letters, Deth stenned
mean they were finals to win. This is making sense
on the trajectory of winning. This is exactly where they're
supposed to be to win. So I get what you mean.
This has been a magical This the magic moment in
the in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Though we've also seen you know that Detroit Pistons lost
to the Celtics before they won their two championships. We
saw other teams that got it, got there, stumbled in
the finals, and then they finally break through. So this
could be you might be right in some time, but
they might have to wait a year because the the
the Windiana Pacers are truly when you talk about a
(06:37):
team of destiny. They weren't supposed to beat the box.
That that unbelievable come back. Remember we sat here, we're
almost that we almost.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
We don't looked straight ahead for about thirty seconds we could.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
What they were up by seven. Like we looked and
we couldn't believe what was going on. Then we were
we were here when they came back.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
So we've seen them all.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
We saw the calves were we saw the knicks every
time we turned wait wait what so but but here's
my only thing too. This has been great, by the way,
and I told Rob g this, the NBA has to
be so ecstatic because that first half you almost thought
it was like, oh, shoot, here we go another blowout,
(07:17):
Here we go again, and then you ultimately got what
we all wanted, close game coming down the wire and
Indiana would hit it pretty much a buzzer beater. So
the NBA has to be happy that people go, maybe
this is gonna be more of a series than a thought,
Maybe this is gonna be competitive, and maybe people will
continue to tune in. So they definitely looked out last point.
For me, Rob, I just am having a hard time
going against the numbers because all the numbers favor the
(07:42):
thunder when you're talking defensively.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
But that's where destiny comes in. The numbers don't matter.
And last night was the perfect example in that all
the numbers were in favor of you know, when you
turn the ball over that much and you.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Know that and you don't and you don't lead the
entire game?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Was it forty seven minutes and eighty nine points whatever?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Seven seconds it was seven like until that was point three,
Like that's that's incredible. And so that's the part where
where I bring up to destiny because numbers under, Destined
or destiny for the pacer.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
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Speaker 3 (08:32):
Rob G do we have a news because a lot
of people thought it was a great game. So the
NBA was looking at his chops that the number is
going to be through the roof because we had a
great game to watch.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Mark I don't care. Where's Marks don Let's get him
on the line. Get the Stein line, guys.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
It was the first time in eight years that game
one of the NBA Finals was decided by two points
or less, so that it was a big game.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It was a good game. It was exciting. We had
the game winner there at the end.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
You're gonna play that in NBA Finals v DVDs, Blu
Rays whatever for years to come. Only problem is not
a lot of people saw it okay. According to Sports Media,
watch game one of pasers, Thunder averaged a four point
seven rating and eight point nine to one million viewers
in ABC, making it the lowest rated and least watch
(09:18):
Finals opener since they started tracking this thing in nineteen
eighty eight, of course, excluding the two COVID years, which
are totally thrown off.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Right, How shocked are you? How bad it is? We
knew it was gonna be bad, and you know there's
a story. Hang how bad? Bare media? Where? Or quotes
from last night where.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Adam Silver saying, I don't know why everybody's talking about ratings,
like like, you know about this ratings with this league? Yes, yes,
I hate to break it to you because it is nude.
Baseball's been beat up forever about TV rad stop it.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Ratings aren't the end, doggy because somebody's paying you billions.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I get it. But they matter, right, you know because if.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
They would go the NBA would be out here, if
there was the highest rating, oh my god, they would say,
see small market doesn't matter looking at the ratings. You
would be going around like crazy. Can't have it both ways.
It's like looks in a relationship. It ain't everything. But
if she fine, what you're gonna be doing? Hey, you're
gonna see my new girl. Dad, that's me right there,
(10:20):
that's your boy right there. Let me see your picture
of real We see it. I'm doing out here, speaking
of it. You still got a screenshot of my wife
and your phone.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
No, no, I did delete. Okay, make sure shocked there
that bad.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
But here, if I had to find an Adam silver lining,
it would be literally the fact that Tyres Halliburt hit
that shot. That would be the line, because it doesn't
matter how many people can I know the first game
is over, but I'm saying how many people went, oh shoot, wait, dang,
they actually won.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
I had I had to throw. Here's why I don't
believe it's gonna matter. And I hear what you say
that you got.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Some curiosity now right, Oh shoot, it's a game, he said.
But it's the small markets and people.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Yeah, you can't act like it doesn't matter because the
proof positive is the San Antonio Spurs, who are a
fine organization with star players, and people still didn't watch,
so it didn't matter like what the series, if it
was closed or whatever was going on.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
It's still a small market. And people talk about the
NBA not being regional.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
It is because people in New York, who where the
Knicks got knocked out, they're interesting. I'm done, Celtics fans,
I'm done. I mean, you go on Laker fans, rob
g if it wasn't for work, you'd be like, the
Lakers are out, Am I am? I really all into this,
Like like I don't think I think a lot of
fans tune out when their teams get out get knocked out.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I just I still go back to the old adage
of casual fans need stars.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Most people will just go, oh, man, the Finals, Oh
the Warriors. I'm in.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Tim Duncan was a story. Won five out of six champions.
Tim Duncan was the big fundamental. He was a star
for US basketball fan. That was it, you know what
I mean, Like he was an amazing want. So often
they say people like winners. I'm just saying we like
the market Side nets. The Nets had Jason Kidd and
had good players. They couldn't draw anything that was that
(12:15):
not a fun team, rob g the Nets, the New
Jersey Nets.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Back at that time, it was over the place. It
was a fun watch. Jason Kidd, a Hall of Fame,
all that stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The issue, right, I'm telling you, I don't disagree the
market size. Never disagree with market side. I mean, if
you have New York and LA and something last year
in the world, just that's automatic. I mean, come on,
you just it's it's just from the sheer people alone
in those markets. You're talking thirty something million in New
Major you know, New York City market, You're talking twenty
something million in the LA market. I mean, you're talking
(12:47):
about a massive amount of people who are invested in
the Dodgers, or invested in the Yankees or the Lakers,
or would be the next if they could ever get
their butts back there. So uh, I didn't think it
would be that bad. Maybe there's some hope to bring
it back. We'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
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Speaker 4 (13:12):
Man, we've been talking about it, obviously.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
The whole world is talking about Game one of the
NBA Finals and what happened at the end. Tyres Halapa
Lucy Tyre's Halliburton now four for four when it comes
to shots under two seconds. You're talking about game winners.
He is thirteen for fifteen with clutch shots, and the
season he has more than Lebron, more than Kobe, more
(13:38):
than Jordan already in the playoff season. It is ridiculous.
What Tyrese Haliburton has already done. And I started to
think to myself, Rob Parker, I said to myself, And
after I said that, Tyrese Haliburton has put him in
a self for a position where at this point, after
last night, if they lose four straight, he has still
(14:01):
won the postseason. He to me, has absolutely taken this
postseason by storm. He is the talk of the postseason.
He went from the most overrated to the most celebrated.
He's had the biggest storylines with all the buzzer beaters.
He even had his pops and the drama there. And
you know you need drama, you need storylines, you need
(14:23):
juice to make things pop and then resonate and become
pop culture. You got buzzer beaters. He does the choke
sign to Reggie Miller. The way this team has come back.
And then you get to the NBA Finals and you
hit a game winner there, this is coming off again.
Where you played in the Olympics last year, you got
no minutes. So to me, Tyres Helliburton, even if they lose,
(14:47):
has absolutely won the postseason. And sometimes that happens. I'll
give you an example. We've rest ferenced this game. This
person in this series a lot Lakers two thousand and one,
Lakers win the title and they go on to win,
and Shaq was absurd. He was dominant MVP and Rob
G you were obviously a Laker fan. You were living
here when that happened. No one remembers that series, do they?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You remember Alan Iverson balling out forty one points, stepping
over Tyron Leu And that is the thing from that series.
Now again, Tyres Haliburton is still shooting and playing to
win at the title. I'm not saying that the Pacers
want to win this thing for sure, but he has
won the postseason already. Give the man the crown already
for this he can only add to it. And one
(15:31):
way Rob he can add to it is having a
Kendrick Lamar NBA version of Kendrick Lamar's rap year of
twenty twenty four into twenty twenty five. Kendrick Lamar was
mine and Thos business and just relaxing and him and
Drake get into it and he beats Drake down in
the beef.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
He has the number one song with like that, and
then it becomes not like us.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Then he has the super Bowl performance, and then he
goes on a world tour with Siza and he had
the greatest rap year in rap history. And tyre Sylerburton.
If he were to win this thing and have one
more big moment, don't even have to be a buzzer beat.
But he has another perfect game, you know, thirty five,
fifteen to ten, no turnovers, then he will officially have
(16:18):
dominated this postseason. It's been remarkable what he has done.
I stand here, I say, I apologize to you. We
ignored you all year. They've been the second best team
since January, first number one being the Thunder, and they've
been on an amazing ride. And Tyrese Saliburton, even in
the loss to me, rob has absolutely won this postseason.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Even if they lose in the finals.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Absolutely not. And this is again crowning people before. As
great as he's been. If they don't win the title,
people don't. They saw those shots, but it ain't the
same as winning and making those shots.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It's always about winning. Sports has a short menu.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
I've said it a million two times, wins and losses,
that's what people really think about, and and doing everything
leading It's just like the Thunder, all those numbers Oh,
they got the most double digit wins.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Oh they did this.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Oh they want to tell None of it matters if
they don't finish the job. I'm telling you, nobody talks
about the Warriors. What were they seventy three and nine?
Nobody talks about that team because they were They were
part of a three to one choke which never happened.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Nobody revers that team. They were unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
They didn't lose more than two games in a row
until the finals, when they did you know what I mean,
when they lost three in a row.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
So so you gotta seal the deal. You have to win.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
The only way people will look at Halli Burton and
be like, my god, that dude is a start is
he has to win. If they lose the next four games,
you think people are gonna be talking about the shots that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
He made in Game one? Yes, no, they will not
talk about this. They did the choke. He took the
mix out. No, he took the calves or he took
the best team in the East by far, the cast
and even the one moment, even the one moment with
the choke. He stole that from Regi Miller.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
It ain't even it was homoe.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
No, but he was paying.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Homage, no homage or homager homage. He was paying homage. No,
but even homage. For the rest of you who want
to say that to Reggie, Why don't you know Regie
Miller was sitting there, rob No.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But even then it's not his. And all I'm saying
to you is people will not celebrate that if they
don't win. You gotta win. Kelvin stopped trying to crown
people without winning. That's what's wrong with society. That's why
we have issues here. And these young people think they're
doing something without winning.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Look, you gotta win. Look at me right now. That
man has won these first three rounds. Now he's where
he's gotten that that that name I gave him earlier,
which one.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Indiana doesn't even work all the way unless they win
the championship. If they win the championship, you could see
right they're thirty for thirty Windyana.
Speaker 4 (19:02):
Rogie, do me a favorite Google? How much is going
to cost me the trademark that you better guy? Even
though he did it, I'm a trademark. I'll give him.
Some happens every day somebody's already done it. They listen
to the show. You already listen what you said was cute,
it was adorable, and I'm pinching your cheeks.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
It was really cute. That is not the case, Rob Parker.
Can we cross the pinch cheek? Yeah, well if you're
on your face and make sure all right, or case
to clench cheek because now he's getting needles and stuff.
I mean, Rob, g optable. People just coming and you stab?
Are you stabbing yourself or is a wife doing it?
Speaker 4 (19:38):
No? I stab myself? Do you really? Yep?
Speaker 1 (19:41):
It's come that far. You said you'd be dang with
the dumbbells a an elliptical that's coming later, going to
work out to it eventually. So how long does it
take for it to take hold of you and then
take pounds off you? Like, what's the I'm already down
a pound and a half in a day. No, you
just took it a good bathroom.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I really the hosted jam on now is so minimal
that it doesn't really do anything. It's not until next
month where I'm really cranking it up. Okay, all right,
anyway back, I'm gonna win this weight last challenge. By
the way, there you are, cheater.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
My point was Reggie Miller robs both of you.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
Is Reggie Miller never won a championship, but all we
talk about was that ninety four run with those those
you know, the clutch plays that he was making against
those Knicks. So my point is sometimes SGA might go
on to win finals MVP. I predict that he will.
I predict him to win. But if it ends up
being just a normal series and he wins Finals MVP
(20:39):
and they win in five or six, we won't think
about all he have ever that Thunder team. But when
I've Rich and Tyree's Halliburton, where I mentioned that that
run twenty twenty five playoffs, you're gonna think about how
he came back and beat the Bucks, how he came
back and beat the Cavs and hit big winners and
game winners, How he's four for four under two seconds,
(20:59):
how he thirteen to fifteen on the season in crunch time,
clutch minutes, how he did the chokes on, how he
went to the hole said, ah, damn, you deflected. Let
me skirt all the way back and shoot a three,
which he thought was the three in the be the two.
And I just think he has had a remarkable run
with the narrative that he's the most overrated and he's
telling y'all to to shut up overrate this.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
What is Pops going crazy about. The scrap with y'all
is when I sent that boy home. Nah, this has
been the tallaries Halliburnus.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
What the hell if he doesn't play well and he's
bad at the end and they lose three, they lose
the next four games. Right, No one's gonna be talking
about this postseason with Halliburton. What they're gonna talk about
r they're gonna talk about They're not. No, they're gonna
talk about Shaye getting a championship, got the MVP. It'll
be about him. It will not be about what Halliburton
(21:50):
did in a failed run. Now, if they closed the deal,
they win the championship. Now you have a whole storyline, narrative.
You relived that you become a thirty for thirty. There
is no thirty for thirty without the championship.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
And that's the point the original insanity. No, they had
the insanity one and he ain't do nothing, but for
two weeks, I was turned the man, got a thirty
for thirty up for two weeks. What they gonna do
with Tyres Halliburton. No, what the hell are they gonna do?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
They're just making up stuff because it's not It's just like, uh,
what was the Baseball movie?
Speaker 4 (22:21):
I'm always with the a Es. They didn't even want
to check, like they did this whole movie, a full
blown movie, and the best they did with.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
No.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
I'm not that stuff doesn't have to be to win
the Midt. No, but they also they had to doctor
that up to make it more appeal. It's gonna be like, Okay,
it's not.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Let me tell you what if you want to doctor
it and say that he won a championship doing all that,
they got a doctor.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
You know what, rob g you know what it is.
It's Rocky Rocky one.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
He lost the Apollo Creed and everybody loved Rocky was like, man,
that dude.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
He fought Hardy made made a name for himself. Rocky.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, if you I can do it, you can do it,
and we can do it. This will be Tyrese Halabird.
He will be Rocky even if he loses. What the
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