June 10, 2025 • 32 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if the New York Knicks are making a mistake by pursuing Jason Kidd to be their next head coach, debate whether Shedeur Sanders has a legitimate chance to earn the Cleveland Browns QB1 job before the season starts, and argue whether DeMarcus Cousins was justified for trying to fight a fan who threw a beer at him during a game in Puerto Rico.
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You talked about it big story over the weekend that
bled over into today. It was reported on Friday evening
by Mark Stein, friend of the show, that the New
York Knicks were planning on reaching out to the Dallas
Mavericks about interviewing Jason Kidd for their vacant head coaching position,
that he's one of the guys that they've targeted to
(00:45):
replace Tom Thibodeaux. Flash forward to Monday morning. ESPN's Brian
Windhor said on television that the feeling is mutual that
if Jason Kidd were to be granted permission to speak
with the Knicks, he would love to have that conversation
about being the next guy in Gotham.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
I got news for you. If you're the Knicks, don't
do it. Don't do it. The Knicks need to be childless.
They don't need a kid on the bench. I'm telling you,
Jason Kidd has had ample opportunity. He's had nothing but
(01:24):
teams filled with stars, the Nets, KG, Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson.
What they get nada? He had Giannis and Milwaukee. What
did he get Nada? In Dallas Luca and Kyrie Nada.
(01:47):
And now you want to send him to the Knicks.
Don't do it, Knicks. He's at fourth, This will be
his fourth team with star players.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
His basket is empty and as a hole in it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Go get you a coach that's a proven winner, Michael Malone.
Go get Michael Malone. Stop hoping and wishing. And if
you're gonna do this, you could have kept Timbs. If
you're gonna do it, he has the.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Same thing kid.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Tims hasn't won. Kid hasn't won. And guess what, Jason
Kidd is a better players in his coaching career. This
would be a mistake. No, kid, I wouldn't do it.
I think the Knicks would be crazy. Kelvin I just
(02:43):
Jason Kid's been around for a long time. I'm not
saying that he can't coach. But if you're gonna make
such a move, go get me somebody who's done it,
been there, done that has a resume that you can
look at and go, dude, this guy knows what it
takes to win a championship and that's what the Knicks
are looking for.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The one area I agree with is the if you're
gonna get rid of Tibbs, you think you're going to
get a super next level up guy. And the only
word a couple of points where I disagree with you. One,
I think you're you're selling Jason kids short. In a
couple areas. You brought up that Nets team that was
a geriatric team. He was the same age as KG
(03:20):
Paul Pierson, all them there. They were as geriatric old team,
well past their Celtic time. That's why they all went
to the Nets. That was the end of the run
for them. Now they should have never traded for them.
But obviously he's not the general manager president of the team.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But so that team was too old to say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He didn't win with them, And then with the Bucks
they were heading in the right direction and they just
chose to get.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Rid of Jason Kidd. Oh he was so good of
him and so to the.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mass and he gets to the NBA Finals, and you're
feeling good about the situation going in this year. You're
feeling like, all right, if guys are healthy, we got
a shot, we got Luca, we got Kyrie and this,
we got some other pieces.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We got Lively.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then they decide to trade him Luca without confront
having consultation with Kid, letting him in on it. So
obviously it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's a coach.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You're not a front office person, right, but you usually
talk to your coach, especially a guy that massive. Maybe
it's a middle of the night eighth man, nineteenth man
on the bench. I get that Lucas superstar. He's in
those conversations. Now, if you're the nixt part of the
reason why you want to go get Jason Kidd is
because you want to go get in because of his
relationship with Jayalen Brunton. You say, all right, they seem
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to be reports are they're still very close for good friends,
and he obviously is a point guard who has worked
with other guards, and you think maybe he can get
the best out of Jaylen Brunston, because Jayleen Brunton at
this point is probably a top ten player and now
you can get the best out of him to work
with Carl Anthony Towns and you say, hey, we've got
some talent in this thing. And I think another reason
why this could work is because the Eastern Conference is
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the lesser conference when it comes to the two. So
I think you're saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
That's the case, you canna suck with Tims whatever with that,
that logic doesn't work for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
They don't I want to stick with Tims. I said
that they could have just stuck with TIBs.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, Tims didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But I don't get where the Jason Kidd fascination comes in.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
But this is not his first job, or you're like
you brought it up, Oh yeah, maybe, or whatever like
you said. It's like Manty Williams when he went to
the Pistons, right, Oh, they paid him a ton of money.
Let's go get Minty Williams. They went to the finals, money,
went to the final. Awful, he didn't want the job,
took the money and it wound up being what a
total disaster. Right, Just because Monty Williams went to the
(05:31):
finals with the Suns, he Actually, if you look at
what went on there, they didn't want him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's why he was available.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
They had gone to the finals, they were up too
oh and they didn't want another game. Right, How did
they go from winning two games the first two games
of the finals to be in Prisada non Grada in Phoenix.
That's all I'm saying, like, don't fall for that. And
no one's gonna be knocking down Minty Williams door right
now at this point, not after one went.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
To that money, he made it effort, didn't do anything
with it. But I think the next you're looking at
Jason Kid again as a really good coach who can
has the ability to have already has a relationship with
Jaylen Brunson, who can maybe get Jaylen Brunson to that
next level. You see what the year two experiment with
Karl Anthony Townsend Jaylen Brunson is. We haven't seen that.
This was the first year they're trying to find their way.
They got all the way to the game in half
of the finals. So now you see what you got there.
(06:16):
And again I mentioned the Eastern Conference final. Boston ain't
gonna be Boston right now. We know that Garland's gonna
be out another four to five months with Cleveland, so
you can you're missing some pieces there. And then obviously
there's some teams that are middling with what will the
Pistons be?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Will the Pacers be this good again?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And you feel like you're right there in the mix
if you're the Knicks, and you feel like he might
be able to be that missing piece as long as
you do your job over the summer and maybe fine
fill out the roster a little bit more so. I
think Jason Kidd is highly interested because I think he
is love is loss with that new ownership, and they're
the Nico Harrison also with the Mavericks. So I see
why Jason Kidd is open to this, this new opperation.
(06:52):
I don't see why the Knicks would be That's what
I'm talking about. The Knicks are the ones that Jon
Jason Kidd. People are always interested, Oh somebody wants me.
Oh there's more money, Oh it's a bigger market. I
understand why Jason Kidd would be interested.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'm just stay in Dallas, Come on, Dallas or New York.
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Okay, that's saying Dallas.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Okay, but that doesn't mean I'm just saying, like somebody
wants you and they're gonna offer you more money in
a bigger contract. Okay, Like that's that's what you do
if you're a coach. He played in New Jersey, he
was a coach.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
At the NATS.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean, he knows what it is is bigger. Everything
is bigger. But if I'm the Knicks, I'm not interested.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But what.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I understand, Mike Malone won a championship. But I don't
get Mike Malone as this amazing coach quite as you do.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
He's a good coach.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I have nothing negative and Jason Kidd is not. But
I'm saying, and Jason, kids, what what give me?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
What I'm gonna tell you?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
If you feel like that's your guy, if you feel
like he has a relationship with Jellen Brunton, if you
feel like he's the one that can get Brunton to
have be locked his step for the next few years.
But I Mike Malone did nothing, want to ring did
nothing like he's done nothing. He doesn't have a reputation
for winning all the time he does. He's not. He
(08:07):
has a ring and that's that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Final. He was below five hundred for quite some time. No,
he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He was.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
He was considered one of the best coaches.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm not I'm not even hating on him, but I'm saying,
you're making like you gotta go get Phil Jackson.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
No, you gotta go get for an organization won a
championship since nineteen seventy three. This is not the place
where I want somebody who maybe might get there. If
I'm already gonna fire a coach who can't get there,
I don't want another coach who's gonna be on his
fourth job who can't get there.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There's somebody available, Okay, there's somebody. I'm okay with.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Somebody the available who's actually won a championship I'm with.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm saying I'm okay with the somebody. He's just you're
stilled in your search. But I don't feel like Mike
Malone is the guy he I don't think.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
He's better than Jason Kidd. There's no if ands or
butts in my mind. Who's a better coach. He ain't
did nothing and he got one ring. Jason Kidd has
done nothing either in three jobs eight seven, seven, ninety
nine on Fox. Not like you had one job and
you're like, oh, you got not enough time. He's had
three jobs already.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The relations on the Bronson, I'm sure is a massive
part of this with them.
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Speaker 4 (09:29):
Shador Sanders, guys, it's much the same as what we
saw in their voluntary mini camp. Because you'll recall we
talked about on this show Day one of Chador during
rookie Mini caamp lit it up seven of nine, three touchdowns,
zero picks. Today, during their first practices of mandatory OTAs
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with the full squad in tow Chador did it again
ten of twelve, two touchdowns, no picks, easily the best
numbers of any of the quarter backs you practice on Tuesday.
The only problem, Ald is a little caveat to that.
What is that one had no point during the voluntary
mini camp or during the mandatory mini camp has Shador
(10:14):
worked with the first unit. In fact, of the four
quarterbacks on their roster Shadoor, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett,
Sanders is the only one who still has not gotten
a single rep with the ones, according to multiple outlets.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
If that doesn't tell you all you need to know,
Like the idea of him, I hear some guys even
on this radio network talking about he usould be to
start from day one. You're not gonna be the start
from day one, Kelvin. If you're not even getting reps
with the first team, let's just let's just be honest, okay.
And this is a clear sign of where the Browns
are thinking, like the idea that he's not getting any
(10:51):
and wasn't it just Flacco didn't even get any reps? Right,
And yeah, he could have got in there or maybe
got a call like like you don't have to go
and get him all around, but no reps at either
one of the voluntary and the involuntary, and not like
no first team reps at all. Like you're not going
to make it as a starting quarterback from there. And
(11:12):
if you're not lighting up the third and fourth string,
then you're in trouble. You better be ten for twelve
with two touchdowns against a lot of guys who'll be
working at all State Farm and different places pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Enterprise. Yeah, Enterprise car Redder.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I'm not knocking a job, but you know what I'm saying,
they won't be in the NFL. Everybody at camp is
not going to be in the NFL. That's not how
it works. So, you know, I think the reports have
been misleading. A lot of people haven't even talked about
who he's facing and who he's playing against, and it matters.
And I think that this is where the Browns are.
(11:51):
This is where they drafted them Kelvin, so this to
me makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
They're not punishing him.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
This is where he was drafted, and this is where
they look at him. As far as progression, He's you know,
getting his reps and then eventually, depending on what happens
with people ahead of him so far into depth draw,
something can happen. I'm not rooting against him at all.
I'm just saying people who are pushing him aren't being
honest with where he is and who is he playing against.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think what we're seeing is the delight from the organization,
from a few of his teammates so far is what
we've been give reporting. And you're getting people who are
extremely excited about I think they're getting a better grasp
of his personality.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
We had some of the players come out.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Some of the folks in the personnel department have already said, man,
he's super confident, but not in the cockyway.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Some other players, Ah, man, he's the joy to be around.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And then he's doing what he's always done, which, if
you remember, he had a seventy four percent completion percentage
last year just to be he's beaten. He is throwing
the ball and throwing it accurately. So really, to me
from the things that we're hearing, personality, great, he's com
he's accurate. To me, it just sounds like Shador Sanders.
And he's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.
(13:05):
He seems to have the right output. He already said,
what's behind me is behind me. I got drafted fifth round.
What are you gonna do? It's already over and my
job is to go out there and compete and play
and put all the noise behind me. So he's checking
off to me, rob every box you can do?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You come in, are you on time? You got your playbook?
Are you studying up?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Check? Are you guys? You know? Like, oh man, he's good,
he's joy to be around. He's a good kid. Check.
Is he accurate as Heck and Dison? These people up?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Check And to me, what you do is you do
your job so that when those ahead of you. Joe
Flacco's vetteran. That's why he's not getting a lot of
reps right now. They already said he's getting very minimal
with the first round because you already know who he is.
You know who Joe Black. This is what seventeenth year
or something like that. You know what Joe Flacco is?
Can he pick it?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do you feel like the Steelers let him go too early?
Is there still something that that. I think that's who
they want their starter to be. So you're saying, let's
really give him the rest because this is who we
think our game one started, Week one start is gonna be.
But I'm looking, if I'm suder, I'm gonna keep playing well,
keep doing my part.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Not because I.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Get what he's doing. The news is that he's not
getting any first team reps.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But this is what I'm going. I'm thinking, I'm thinking
that's coming. I'm thinking you're gonna because Joe Flacco eventually,
I think.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You just literally, all right, we got him. We're good
on that good.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I think if guys keep performing, even if they're
just mediocre, and you keep performing exceptional, even against the
third stringers as you're supposed to, I think they go,
we'll give him a shot. You know, he ain't saying
he start, but just give him a few.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
With the runs, you got people saying he's gonna start
on opening day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then you go, Katy pick is gonna start opening day?
Does he? Does he stay the starter past week three, four,
five seats? We'll see? Can't he pick a day they're
gonna give it?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Really going to be the starter from week one? I
think that's I think.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
A conversation that I don't think misguided is that he
could be your best player, but you're still not going
to start him.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
No, that that makes none That makes no sense. I
totally disagree with that thinking. It makes no sense because
if you're a coach trying to win, you're going to
pick the best player. Stop it. Stop this whole idea. No,
it doesn't. It's just like Matt Flynn with Seattle, Russell
Wilson showed up. They paid Matt Flinn a ton of money,
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and they could have easily said Matt Flinn's the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Russell Wilson could wait.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
They watched the kid Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. Sometimes
somebody shows up and they're good. And if he does,
if you're a coach and you're really running a fair
and accurate and allowing the best players to play, you're
not gonna not play Shador for any other reason.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
If he's better than.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Kenny Pickett right right now, he should be the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just don't think it's that simple. I think, I do,
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think if Kenny Pickett, who was played a couple
more years and who if they're near each other, or
if the Chador is even slightly above, maybe he's had
more of an electric armybe he's been more better completion pits.
Maybe he's more uh shows more, the group shows more
excitement with him. I think you're still gonna run Kenny
pick It again. Joe makes no sense to me. And
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I think you're gonna look at Daniel grape Gabriel because
of where they got them, what you had to give up,
where you're drafted him. And I think Shader Sanders, if
i'm him, I want to make your decision difficult.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I want to be the absolute best player.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Does not a single person on this organization doesn't go
over God, he's the best player up there, and I
want to force your hand, but that may start with
that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
If he really was the best player quarterback, I just
get and I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Saying, what happened where a guy's a better Matt Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
They gave him a gazillion dollars off the Lions, right, Seriously,
he was supposed to be there. Oh my god, we
got Matt Flynn from Green Baty. You see him set
the all time touchdown record against the line.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He looked a bit.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Fantastic, and they thought they got their quarterback. And this
kid shows up Russell Wilson and if they didn't flinch,
because you gotta play the best player. If Shador is
the best player, he's gotta play. I don't care what
Kenny picking his first team reps tells you. Where they
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view him, it's all off.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right, and that's just where they view him.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
As we sit here very early in this in the offseason,
and I'm saying, as the off season goes along, I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You're talking about all seasons. It's just practice.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Is it really the end of the world to let
him get a couple of reps with the first team.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They have unusually amount of quarterbacks. Most teams have three.
They got four, maybe five. So I'm saying is as
you work each day to potentially each week, you start
moving up to nine and maybe you get a few.
And I just think, but if I'm him, I'm absolutely
wanting to force your hand to go, Man, this dude,
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh, we tried.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
He looks good, he looks great, the arm is great,
the stronger than we thought. He's accurate, the guys love him.
He's in his playbook, smartest heck. And I'm forcing him
because I don't if I'm looking at that line, I'm
looking at the guys ahead of me, and there's not
a single guy ahead of me that I go you
know what I mean. He's not walking in with Pat
mahomes Lamar Jackson, Josh Edwell, oh shoot, let me go
and get this clipboard. For a few years, I'm walking
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in saying there's not a single dude ahead of me
other than Joe Flacko was his experience.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But I'm not talking about his mindset. You just go
out and play.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm talking about the Browns, but I haven't been able
to find get the right quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They had Baker Mayfield. They ran him out agree on that.
He agreed. I won a playoff game. He beat the
Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
They won like the eleven or twelve games during the
regular season, and then he got hurt and then they
blamed it that he played with an injury, and they
they they got rid of them. I don't even understand it.
I'm saying, there's no reason. If he's lighting it up
and everybody's all his accurate all this stuff, I want
to see some reps against better comp. I don't That's
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what if I'm a coach. I just don't. What am
I waiting for. It's practice. It is, and I'm thinking
it very well could come. I think it's still early now.
I think they have a home that depth. Their depth
of the quarterback is insane right now. They draft they
drafted two guys around two rounds ahead of each other,
apart from each other, like they have so many quarterbacks.
I think it could get there, but I don't see
a guy on that roster that I feel like if
(19:14):
I'm him like that, I can't be better than him.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Apparently they do because they won't give him any reps
because right it's political.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're the fifth round right now, Joe, the veteran I
think is more veteran than you.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Gabriel was drafted ahead of you. You're gonna have to
earn it. I think. I think that's too easy. It's truth.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
It's not the truth because people are fighting for their jobs.
If you're the GM and you're to coach, you kiss it.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And some that I brought this guy in. I traded
for him, I got. I brought picking in. That's literally
the thing. If I if I'm I brought this quarterback,
this point guard, coach, it just happens all the time.
I got to we talked about I got to ride
out this coach. I got to ride out this player
because I brought him in. We drafted this kid first round.
(20:00):
We're gonna ride this see.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Let me see, I gotta I got a great kid
who could finally solidify the quarterback position to be a star,
and I'm not gonna play him.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I don't buy that, Rob. You can watch the sports
too long and don't think that happens all the time.
We got this picture, we went.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We star house up. I don't believe it not a
for star shows up. I don't will disagree. You might
like like he's pretty good, or you think he's good.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm not about to be Patrick Mahomes right now. I
don't think it's too early than any of that. But
we often see where I have to ride someone out
because I drafted him, I hired the coach I hired,
brought this guy, I traded for him.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
We're gonna ride this thing. I just think it was
the fifth round.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Believe that's what they believe, and that's why they're not
giving him any reps.
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Speaker 4 (20:52):
Former NBA All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved
in an ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basket
ball game. He got into a verbal altercation with a
gentleman sitting on the sidelines. During the back and forth,
Cousins grabs at his private areas and said some profanity.
(21:12):
The man on the sideline flips from the bird, DeMarcus
flips the bird back. Things get very heated, very confrontational.
As DeMarcus Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for
this run in, he had several dozens in fact of
Puerto Rican basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him
(21:35):
as he exited the court. At one point it looked
like he tried to get into the stands to go
at these fans, but he was restrained by security before
he was eventually taken it into the locker room. But
had there not been that kind of security, we would
have had Malice in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
You cannot and ot going to the stands and fight fans.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Going in the stands.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
It was bad at the Palace of the Malice of
the Palace when they threw a chair like I always
go back to this into the stands. God forbid it
did hit a three year old or a five year
old who was sitting there, like they dodged a bullet.
Can you imagine if something happened because they threw a
chair in the stands and a kid was hit with it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like, you just can't do it. I get it.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
It's not right, it's not fair when you pay for
a ticket, that doesn't give you a right to be
vulgar and say racist stuff or you know, or or
mean spirit like it doesn't but under any sort that's
just not your place. The same way fan shouldn't come
down on the court. Players should never, under any circumstance,
(23:03):
go into the stands, point them out to security this
guy that guy. We've seen Lebron do that and other
players where they've gotten people put out Russell Westbrook I
didn't agree with because they called him Westbrook like to
me that that that doesn't border that that's sensitive.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like I'm like, I'm sorry, I have a.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Right to say, Westbrook cash out tonight, I hit a
bunch of shots exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
DeMarcus Cousin's trying to get into the stand. That's a
no no under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but that maybe centuries ago.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe it was a gladiator.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh you're not at a tame but I don't know
what happened, where it became, and only that facet of life.
It's okay for me to call you fill in the blank,
N word, uh, sexually explicit word, a homophobic word, a
racist word, call, talk about your kids, talk about your mom.
I'm doing this to your wife. It's it's the crazy, Like,
(24:09):
what other facet of life? You and I do a
show and if somebody called on our show and say, hey,
rob By the Way Blake, we would immediately hang up.
If you and I were doing a live event somewhere
and that happened, no one does that. No one walks
into an office throws popcorn at people, ice from sodas,
beer and people. And so it gets to me where
I get your point, But it becomes complicated where why
(24:32):
are these women, men and women the only people expected
to just take that. You know, I do news in
the morning. I'm not sitting around and nobody just comes in.
I hate the way you do your news and spit
some my face or throws the battery at me, like
football players get batteries and snowballs and things thrown at them.
And my point is, we love sports. It's highly violatle
it's it's impassioned. You're into it as a player, and
(24:54):
you're right on the edge, right it's football violent, you
right on the edge of like organized chaos. You're mad
you blew this player, this team just beat you, and
somebody's booing you, flicking you off, a throw a beer
or a snowballer, And I'm supposed to be the bigger man, Like,
I don't get why that's.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The case, because that's not for you to handle. That's
the same thing in a in a dispute whatever. That's
why you have police. You don't just go handle it yourself. Okay, no,
no you don't. That's not that's not the best way.
But you know what I'm saying. And as a professional,
as a professional representing a city, a league, there's all
(25:33):
kinds of stuff. You sign this, you decide that this
is what you want to do. Your idea of going
in the stands. You can get the situation rectified. I'm
not talking about somebody throwing a bottle or b or
or like trying to injure you that that's that person
has to be dealt with. You have to point that
person out whatever. But you can't be where you're trying
(25:58):
to get in the stands to have an alter care
and open up your your not only yourself team league.
Who you swinging on? Do you really know who that
person is? Do you really know who through the beer you?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Do?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You see what I'm saying, Like, there's a lot that
goes with it. And I don't think that's where you
want to be. And I don't think that's where you
want to be as a league where players are going
in and beating up fans.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
No, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't think that you ever want to be there.
I don't ever want to be there. But I also
want to go to work where I don't have to
deal with that. Right you and I come here, I
expect know what I'm saying, Well, are you be an adult?
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game, call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck whatever. Somebody thrown up because
(26:45):
you said Westbrook that's what I'm saying. That's gonna say.
You're allowed to say Westbrook is what I'm saying. I'm
saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm fine what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I suck. I can buy boo and all that boo.
I'm with all that.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
If it's past that, David Alex, we might have too.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
If you buck, we gotta knock. If you buck.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
If you're throwing batteries at me, Rob, if you're throwing
snowballs at the meat Propt.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
He feels meds. That's right. Look at Rob g you
call him my kids this.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're flicking me off, you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing
sould in my face.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Knock if you buck. I'm not that type of person.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Me Kelvin Washington, However you do you if this is
what I can't be mad at an adult? Yes, you can
want to just watch an adult you throw something at them.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That is.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On me.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
The ones is on me, not the adults.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yes, on you as a professional athlete to go to
security and say that dude right there just did this
or that. That's what you do. You don't have to
go settle it. My daughters do that inchol. I'm a
grown man, Alex. Tell her what I'm doing. My daughter's
gonna get to teacher, Rob, That's what I'm doing. No,
(28:01):
you won't be a profession you won't be a professional
athlete for long, because that's not the way it should
be handled it.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Never Hey, hey, Rod Parker, mister red jacket person who
really ain't here for security. He's just trying to get
some free tickets every now and again. That guy right
there just threw a battery of snowball popcorn beer at me.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
No, I've seen guys.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan.
And we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
You're trying to go in the stands to fight people.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But wouldn't you agree to that? I wouldn't. I'm just
being honest. I don't know, Rod.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I would never go in to fight them. No, I
would just block them on Twitter. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
That you would do that. But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Right I'm block It's my Twitter, and I'll block it
by walk to block it, by walk to block. If
I walk to you would block too, if they tried
to dish you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's what I'm doing. Rob G's with me, Robbi with me.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm sitting here, look at me, minding my business, and
hy do.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
The matter hits me? You may fight, nobody say, just listen.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
The greatest example is the mouse at the Palace run
our test because he was not meta yet try.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To do the best thing ever. Do you not agree?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He didn't. He went like this, walked away from Ben Wallas,
laid on the scorts. No, but Sousa threw a what
a soda at him, a drink a beer?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So on, what do you mean, robb G come in
here and throw that soda you're sipping on right now?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
And Rob's face, Oh, I'm just saying, Oh I would,
I would just I would go get the authorities, and.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I was, you know, it would be more offensive to
me than him actually throwing a soda on me. The
identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Maybe that's why I that would that would be you,
That would be that would bother me more than that
that would be you. I agree with you. That would
you throw a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob? I
can't believe you're trying to sell me on this. I'm
not serious.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I would never Robbie, where are you on this? Please
tell me I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
A professional you can't fight at all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Ever, Rois Oh, I'm with Dub one thousand percent. Rob
one thousand percent. Now, I'm not a violent person. No,
I'm not actively looking to fight somebody. But I'm also
not gonna not defend myself if somebody is gonna throw
objects at me like I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult. It's not a
ten year or twelve ero circus animal.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Cause I'm talking about fighting because somebody threw a drink
on you.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this, Robbie. Watch you if
you and I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited
and we're sitting at cheesecake factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes, hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I hate your.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers. And they throw
a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna be knocking if
he's bucking, and then I gonna go hold my cheesecake
and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What I would do to hear this?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I would call Scott told him that our boss that
he needs to come over the cheesecake factory because we
gotta see You.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Know, these listeners were listening long enough, they don't buy it, right,
and you got a little New York and you.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at all times?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Do you listen to the show. We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on right? Alex?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Where are you come on? My music?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Just tasteful?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Alex? Simple? What you want to squabble of a fact?
So would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets?
You were reason?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I wouldn't even breathe no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction, or I wouldn't even
ask his name.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The best part about this is I know for a
fact that some crazy I hate the odd couple through
a drink in Rob's face at cheesecake Factory.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Rob Parker will go full Queens New York. So you
know what I would dot class.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I would open my mouth to try to get as
much of it as the drink was coming on.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Crazy drop, Rob, Your your good friend fifty would be
very upset with your answer this question.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was a crazy We say what I.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Said your good friend fifty sent We were really upset
with you for this response. All right, Can I just
say this on behalf of double We got young kids
who were both you know, gonna grow up to be fine,
worldly individuals.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
From ten years ago to ten years from now.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
These hands are rated for everyone exactly, exactly
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You talked about it big story over the weekend that
bled over into today. It was reported on Friday evening
by Mark Stein, friend of the show, that the New
York Knicks were planning on reaching out to the Dallas
Mavericks about interviewing Jason Kidd for their vacant head coaching position,
that he's one of the guys that they've targeted to
(00:45):
replace Tom Thibodeaux. Flash forward to Monday morning. ESPN's Brian
Windhor said on television that the feeling is mutual that
if Jason Kidd were to be granted permission to speak
with the Knicks, he would love to have that conversation
about being the next guy in Gotham.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
I got news for you. If you're the Knicks, don't
do it. Don't do it. The Knicks need to be childless.
They don't need a kid on the bench. I'm telling you,
Jason Kidd has had ample opportunity. He's had nothing but
(01:24):
teams filled with stars, the Nets, KG, Paul Pierce, Joe Johnson.
What they get nada? He had Giannis and Milwaukee. What
did he get Nada? In Dallas Luca and Kyrie Nada.
(01:47):
And now you want to send him to the Knicks.
Don't do it, Knicks. He's at fourth, This will be
his fourth team with star players.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
His basket is empty and as a hole in it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Don't do it.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Go get you a coach that's a proven winner, Michael Malone.
Go get Michael Malone. Stop hoping and wishing. And if
you're gonna do this, you could have kept Timbs. If
you're gonna do it, he has the.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Same thing kid.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Tims hasn't won. Kid hasn't won. And guess what, Jason
Kidd is a better players in his coaching career. This
would be a mistake. No, kid, I wouldn't do it.
I think the Knicks would be crazy. Kelvin I just
(02:43):
Jason Kid's been around for a long time. I'm not
saying that he can't coach. But if you're gonna make
such a move, go get me somebody who's done it,
been there, done that has a resume that you can
look at and go, dude, this guy knows what it
takes to win a championship and that's what the Knicks
are looking for.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
The one area I agree with is the if you're
gonna get rid of Tibbs, you think you're going to
get a super next level up guy. And the only
word a couple of points where I disagree with you. One,
I think you're you're selling Jason kids short. In a
couple areas. You brought up that Nets team that was
a geriatric team. He was the same age as KG
(03:20):
Paul Pierson, all them there. They were as geriatric old team,
well past their Celtic time. That's why they all went
to the Nets. That was the end of the run
for them. Now they should have never traded for them.
But obviously he's not the general manager president of the team.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But so that team was too old to say.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He didn't win with them, And then with the Bucks
they were heading in the right direction and they just
chose to get.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Rid of Jason Kidd. Oh he was so good of
him and so to the.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Mass and he gets to the NBA Finals, and you're
feeling good about the situation going in this year. You're
feeling like, all right, if guys are healthy, we got
a shot, we got Luca, we got Kyrie and this,
we got some other pieces.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
We got Lively.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
And then they decide to trade him Luca without confront
having consultation with Kid, letting him in on it. So
obviously it's a.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
It's a coach.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
You're not a front office person, right, but you usually
talk to your coach, especially a guy that massive. Maybe
it's a middle of the night eighth man, nineteenth man
on the bench. I get that Lucas superstar. He's in
those conversations. Now, if you're the nixt part of the
reason why you want to go get Jason Kidd is
because you want to go get in because of his
relationship with Jayalen Brunton. You say, all right, they seem
(04:29):
to be reports are they're still very close for good friends,
and he obviously is a point guard who has worked
with other guards, and you think maybe he can get
the best out of Jaylen Brunston, because Jayleen Brunton at
this point is probably a top ten player and now
you can get the best out of him to work
with Carl Anthony Towns and you say, hey, we've got
some talent in this thing. And I think another reason
why this could work is because the Eastern Conference is
(04:51):
the lesser conference when it comes to the two. So
I think you're saying, hey.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
That's the case, you canna suck with Tims whatever with that,
that logic doesn't work for whatever reason.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
They don't I want to stick with Tims. I said
that they could have just stuck with TIBs.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, Tims didn't deserve to be there.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
But I don't get where the Jason Kidd fascination comes in.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 5 (05:08):
But this is not his first job, or you're like
you brought it up, Oh yeah, maybe, or whatever like
you said. It's like Manty Williams when he went to
the Pistons, right, Oh, they paid him a ton of money.
Let's go get Minty Williams. They went to the finals, money,
went to the final. Awful, he didn't want the job,
took the money and it wound up being what a
total disaster. Right, Just because Monty Williams went to the
(05:31):
finals with the Suns, he Actually, if you look at
what went on there, they didn't want him.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
That's why he was available.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
They had gone to the finals, they were up too
oh and they didn't want another game. Right, How did
they go from winning two games the first two games
of the finals to be in Prisada non Grada in Phoenix.
That's all I'm saying, like, don't fall for that. And
no one's gonna be knocking down Minty Williams door right
now at this point, not after one went.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
To that money, he made it effort, didn't do anything
with it. But I think the next you're looking at
Jason Kid again as a really good coach who can
has the ability to have already has a relationship with
Jaylen Brunson, who can maybe get Jaylen Brunson to that
next level. You see what the year two experiment with
Karl Anthony Townsend Jaylen Brunson is. We haven't seen that.
This was the first year they're trying to find their way.
They got all the way to the game in half
of the finals. So now you see what you got there.
(06:16):
And again I mentioned the Eastern Conference final. Boston ain't
gonna be Boston right now. We know that Garland's gonna
be out another four to five months with Cleveland, so
you can you're missing some pieces there. And then obviously
there's some teams that are middling with what will the
Pistons be?
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Will the Pacers be this good again?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And you feel like you're right there in the mix
if you're the Knicks, and you feel like he might
be able to be that missing piece as long as
you do your job over the summer and maybe fine
fill out the roster a little bit more so. I
think Jason Kidd is highly interested because I think he
is love is loss with that new ownership, and they're
the Nico Harrison also with the Mavericks. So I see
why Jason Kidd is open to this, this new opperation.
(06:52):
I don't see why the Knicks would be That's what
I'm talking about. The Knicks are the ones that Jon
Jason Kidd. People are always interested, Oh somebody wants me.
Oh there's more money, Oh it's a bigger market. I
understand why Jason Kidd would be interested.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Whatever.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
I'm just stay in Dallas, Come on, Dallas or New York.
I mean, I don't think.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Okay, that's saying Dallas.
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Okay, but that doesn't mean I'm just saying, like somebody
wants you and they're gonna offer you more money in
a bigger contract. Okay, Like that's that's what you do
if you're a coach. He played in New Jersey, he
was a coach.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
At the NATS.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I mean, he knows what it is is bigger. Everything
is bigger. But if I'm the Knicks, I'm not interested.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But what.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I understand, Mike Malone won a championship. But I don't
get Mike Malone as this amazing coach quite as you do.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
He's a good coach.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I have nothing negative and Jason Kidd is not. But
I'm saying, and Jason, kids, what what give me?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
What I'm gonna tell you?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
If you feel like that's your guy, if you feel
like he has a relationship with Jellen Brunton, if you
feel like he's the one that can get Brunton to
have be locked his step for the next few years.
But I Mike Malone did nothing, want to ring did
nothing like he's done nothing. He doesn't have a reputation
for winning all the time he does. He's not. He
(08:07):
has a ring and that's that's it.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Final. He was below five hundred for quite some time. No,
he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
He was.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
He was considered one of the best coaches.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I'm not I'm not even hating on him, but I'm saying,
you're making like you gotta go get Phil Jackson.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
No, you gotta go get for an organization won a
championship since nineteen seventy three. This is not the place
where I want somebody who maybe might get there. If
I'm already gonna fire a coach who can't get there,
I don't want another coach who's gonna be on his
fourth job who can't get there.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
There's somebody available, Okay, there's somebody. I'm okay with.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Somebody the available who's actually won a championship I'm with.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I'm saying I'm okay with the somebody. He's just you're
stilled in your search. But I don't feel like Mike
Malone is the guy he I don't think.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
He's better than Jason Kidd. There's no if ands or
butts in my mind. Who's a better coach. He ain't
did nothing and he got one ring. Jason Kidd has
done nothing either in three jobs eight seven, seven, ninety
nine on Fox. Not like you had one job and
you're like, oh, you got not enough time. He's had
three jobs already.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The relations on the Bronson, I'm sure is a massive
part of this with them.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
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Speaker 4 (09:29):
Shador Sanders, guys, it's much the same as what we
saw in their voluntary mini camp. Because you'll recall we
talked about on this show Day one of Chador during
rookie Mini caamp lit it up seven of nine, three touchdowns,
zero picks. Today, during their first practices of mandatory OTAs
(09:50):
with the full squad in tow Chador did it again
ten of twelve, two touchdowns, no picks, easily the best
numbers of any of the quarter backs you practice on Tuesday.
The only problem, Ald is a little caveat to that.
What is that one had no point during the voluntary
mini camp or during the mandatory mini camp has Shador
(10:14):
worked with the first unit. In fact, of the four
quarterbacks on their roster Shadoor, Dylan Gabriel, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett,
Sanders is the only one who still has not gotten
a single rep with the ones, according to multiple outlets.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
If that doesn't tell you all you need to know,
Like the idea of him, I hear some guys even
on this radio network talking about he usould be to
start from day one. You're not gonna be the start
from day one, Kelvin. If you're not even getting reps
with the first team, let's just let's just be honest, okay.
And this is a clear sign of where the Browns
are thinking, like the idea that he's not getting any
(10:51):
and wasn't it just Flacco didn't even get any reps? Right,
And yeah, he could have got in there or maybe
got a call like like you don't have to go
and get him all around, but no reps at either
one of the voluntary and the involuntary, and not like
no first team reps at all. Like you're not going
to make it as a starting quarterback from there. And
(11:12):
if you're not lighting up the third and fourth string,
then you're in trouble. You better be ten for twelve
with two touchdowns against a lot of guys who'll be
working at all State Farm and different places pretty soon.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Enterprise. Yeah, Enterprise car Redder.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
I'm not knocking a job, but you know what I'm saying,
they won't be in the NFL. Everybody at camp is
not going to be in the NFL. That's not how
it works. So, you know, I think the reports have
been misleading. A lot of people haven't even talked about
who he's facing and who he's playing against, and it matters.
And I think that this is where the Browns are.
(11:51):
This is where they drafted them Kelvin, so this to
me makes sense.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
They're not punishing him.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
This is where he was drafted, and this is where
they look at him. As far as progression, He's you know,
getting his reps and then eventually, depending on what happens
with people ahead of him so far into depth draw,
something can happen. I'm not rooting against him at all.
I'm just saying people who are pushing him aren't being
honest with where he is and who is he playing against.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
That's all.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I think what we're seeing is the delight from the organization,
from a few of his teammates so far is what
we've been give reporting. And you're getting people who are
extremely excited about I think they're getting a better grasp
of his personality.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
We had some of the players come out.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Some of the folks in the personnel department have already said, man,
he's super confident, but not in the cockyway.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Some other players, Ah, man, he's the joy to be around.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
And then he's doing what he's always done, which, if
you remember, he had a seventy four percent completion percentage
last year just to be he's beaten. He is throwing
the ball and throwing it accurately. So really, to me
from the things that we're hearing, personality, great, he's com
he's accurate. To me, it just sounds like Shador Sanders.
And he's doing exactly what he's supposed to be doing.
(13:05):
He seems to have the right output. He already said,
what's behind me is behind me. I got drafted fifth round.
What are you gonna do? It's already over and my
job is to go out there and compete and play
and put all the noise behind me. So he's checking
off to me, rob every box you can do?
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Right?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You come in, are you on time? You got your playbook?
Are you studying up?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Check? Are you guys? You know? Like, oh man, he's good,
he's joy to be around. He's a good kid. Check.
Is he accurate as Heck and Dison? These people up?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Check And to me, what you do is you do
your job so that when those ahead of you. Joe
Flacco's vetteran. That's why he's not getting a lot of
reps right now. They already said he's getting very minimal
with the first round because you already know who he is.
You know who Joe Black. This is what seventeenth year
or something like that. You know what Joe Flacco is?
Can he pick it?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Do you feel like the Steelers let him go too early?
Is there still something that that. I think that's who
they want their starter to be. So you're saying, let's
really give him the rest because this is who we
think our game one started, Week one start is gonna be.
But I'm looking, if I'm suder, I'm gonna keep playing well,
keep doing my part.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Not because I.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Get what he's doing. The news is that he's not
getting any first team reps.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
But this is what I'm going. I'm thinking, I'm thinking
that's coming. I'm thinking you're gonna because Joe Flacco eventually,
I think.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
You just literally, all right, we got him. We're good
on that good.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And I think if guys keep performing, even if they're
just mediocre, and you keep performing exceptional, even against the
third stringers as you're supposed to, I think they go,
we'll give him a shot. You know, he ain't saying
he start, but just give him a few.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
With the runs, you got people saying he's gonna start
on opening day.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And then you go, Katy pick is gonna start opening day?
Does he? Does he stay the starter past week three, four,
five seats? We'll see? Can't he pick a day they're
gonna give it?
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Really going to be the starter from week one? I
think that's I think.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
A conversation that I don't think misguided is that he
could be your best player, but you're still not going
to start him.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
No, that that makes none That makes no sense. I
totally disagree with that thinking. It makes no sense because
if you're a coach trying to win, you're going to
pick the best player. Stop it. Stop this whole idea. No,
it doesn't. It's just like Matt Flynn with Seattle, Russell
Wilson showed up. They paid Matt Flinn a ton of money,
(15:17):
and they could have easily said Matt Flinn's the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Russell Wilson could wait.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
They watched the kid Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. Sometimes
somebody shows up and they're good. And if he does,
if you're a coach and you're really running a fair
and accurate and allowing the best players to play, you're
not gonna not play Shador for any other reason.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
If he's better than.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
Kenny Pickett right right now, he should be the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I just don't think it's that simple. I think, I do,
I hear you.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I think if Kenny Pickett, who was played a couple
more years and who if they're near each other, or
if the Chador is even slightly above, maybe he's had
more of an electric armybe he's been more better completion pits.
Maybe he's more uh shows more, the group shows more
excitement with him. I think you're still gonna run Kenny
pick It again. Joe makes no sense to me. And
(16:09):
I think you're gonna look at Daniel grape Gabriel because
of where they got them, what you had to give up,
where you're drafted him. And I think Shader Sanders, if
i'm him, I want to make your decision difficult.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
I want to be the absolute best player.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Does not a single person on this organization doesn't go
over God, he's the best player up there, and I
want to force your hand, but that may start with
that makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
If he really was the best player quarterback, I just
get and I'm.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Saying, what happened where a guy's a better Matt Matt Flynn.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
They gave him a gazillion dollars off the Lions, right, Seriously,
he was supposed to be there. Oh my god, we
got Matt Flynn from Green Baty. You see him set
the all time touchdown record against the line.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He looked a bit.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Fantastic, and they thought they got their quarterback. And this
kid shows up Russell Wilson and if they didn't flinch,
because you gotta play the best player. If Shador is
the best player, he's gotta play. I don't care what
Kenny picking his first team reps tells you. Where they
(17:13):
view him, it's all off.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right, and that's just where they view him.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
As we sit here very early in this in the offseason,
and I'm saying, as the off season goes along, I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
You're talking about all seasons. It's just practice.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Is it really the end of the world to let
him get a couple of reps with the first team.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
That's That's what I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
They have unusually amount of quarterbacks. Most teams have three.
They got four, maybe five. So I'm saying is as
you work each day to potentially each week, you start
moving up to nine and maybe you get a few.
And I just think, but if I'm him, I'm absolutely
wanting to force your hand to go, Man, this dude,
I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Oh, we tried.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
He looks good, he looks great, the arm is great,
the stronger than we thought. He's accurate, the guys love him.
He's in his playbook, smartest heck. And I'm forcing him
because I don't if I'm looking at that line, I'm
looking at the guys ahead of me, and there's not
a single guy ahead of me that I go you
know what I mean. He's not walking in with Pat
mahomes Lamar Jackson, Josh Edwell, oh shoot, let me go
and get this clipboard. For a few years, I'm walking
(18:09):
in saying there's not a single dude ahead of me
other than Joe Flacko was his experience.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
But I'm not talking about his mindset. You just go
out and play.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
I'm talking about the Browns, but I haven't been able
to find get the right quarterback.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They had Baker Mayfield. They ran him out agree on that.
He agreed. I won a playoff game. He beat the
Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
They won like the eleven or twelve games during the
regular season, and then he got hurt and then they
blamed it that he played with an injury, and they
they they got rid of them. I don't even understand it.
I'm saying, there's no reason. If he's lighting it up
and everybody's all his accurate all this stuff, I want
to see some reps against better comp. I don't That's
(18:52):
what if I'm a coach. I just don't. What am
I waiting for. It's practice. It is, and I'm thinking
it very well could come. I think it's still early now.
I think they have a home that depth. Their depth
of the quarterback is insane right now. They draft they
drafted two guys around two rounds ahead of each other,
apart from each other, like they have so many quarterbacks.
I think it could get there, but I don't see
a guy on that roster that I feel like if
(19:14):
I'm him like that, I can't be better than him.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Apparently they do because they won't give him any reps
because right it's political.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're the fifth round right now, Joe, the veteran I
think is more veteran than you.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Gabriel was drafted ahead of you. You're gonna have to
earn it. I think. I think that's too easy. It's truth.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
It's not the truth because people are fighting for their jobs.
If you're the GM and you're to coach, you kiss it.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And some that I brought this guy in. I traded
for him, I got. I brought picking in. That's literally
the thing. If I if I'm I brought this quarterback,
this point guard, coach, it just happens all the time.
I got to we talked about I got to ride
out this coach. I got to ride out this player
because I brought him in. We drafted this kid first round.
(20:00):
We're gonna ride this see.
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Let me see, I gotta I got a great kid
who could finally solidify the quarterback position to be a star,
and I'm not gonna play him.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I don't buy that, Rob. You can watch the sports
too long and don't think that happens all the time.
We got this picture, we went.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
We star house up. I don't believe it not a
for star shows up. I don't will disagree. You might
like like he's pretty good, or you think he's good.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I'm not about to be Patrick Mahomes right now. I
don't think it's too early than any of that. But
we often see where I have to ride someone out
because I drafted him, I hired the coach I hired,
brought this guy, I traded for him.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
We're gonna ride this thing. I just think it was
the fifth round.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
Believe that's what they believe, and that's why they're not
giving him any reps.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
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Speaker 4 (20:52):
Former NBA All Star big man DeMarcus Cousins was involved
in an ugly scene in a Puerto Rican League basket
ball game. He got into a verbal altercation with a
gentleman sitting on the sidelines. During the back and forth,
Cousins grabs at his private areas and said some profanity.
(21:12):
The man on the sideline flips from the bird, DeMarcus
flips the bird back. Things get very heated, very confrontational.
As DeMarcus Cousins is getting escorted off the floor for
this run in, he had several dozens in fact of
Puerto Rican basketball fans throwing beer, throwing food at him
(21:35):
as he exited the court. At one point it looked
like he tried to get into the stands to go
at these fans, but he was restrained by security before
he was eventually taken it into the locker room. But
had there not been that kind of security, we would
have had Malice in the Palace Part two.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
That's how bad it was.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And DeMarcus Cousins, I get it, you're not happy with
what went on in the arena, but you can't I don't.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
You cannot and ot going to the stands and fight fans.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
You can't. That's for security.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
That's for the people who it's their job to maintain that.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
Going in the stands.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
It was bad at the Palace of the Malice of
the Palace when they threw a chair like I always
go back to this into the stands. God forbid it
did hit a three year old or a five year
old who was sitting there, like they dodged a bullet.
Can you imagine if something happened because they threw a
chair in the stands and a kid was hit with it?
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Like, you just can't do it. I get it.
Speaker 5 (22:40):
It's not right, it's not fair when you pay for
a ticket, that doesn't give you a right to be
vulgar and say racist stuff or you know, or or
mean spirit like it doesn't but under any sort that's
just not your place. The same way fan shouldn't come
down on the court. Players should never, under any circumstance,
(23:03):
go into the stands, point them out to security this
guy that guy. We've seen Lebron do that and other
players where they've gotten people put out Russell Westbrook I
didn't agree with because they called him Westbrook like to
me that that that doesn't border that that's sensitive.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Like I'm like, I'm sorry, I have a.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Right to say, Westbrook cash out tonight, I hit a
bunch of shots exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I mean, but.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
DeMarcus Cousin's trying to get into the stand. That's a
no no under any circumstance, any situation, you can't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
This is why it's a complicated conversation for me, because
I don't know if it was one hundred and fifty
years ago, two hundred years ago, but that maybe centuries ago.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Maybe it was a gladiator.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Oh you're not at a tame but I don't know
what happened, where it became, and only that facet of life.
It's okay for me to call you fill in the blank,
N word, uh, sexually explicit word, a homophobic word, a
racist word, call, talk about your kids, talk about your mom.
I'm doing this to your wife. It's it's the crazy, Like,
(24:09):
what other facet of life? You and I do a
show and if somebody called on our show and say, hey,
rob By the Way Blake, we would immediately hang up.
If you and I were doing a live event somewhere
and that happened, no one does that. No one walks
into an office throws popcorn at people, ice from sodas,
beer and people. And so it gets to me where
I get your point, But it becomes complicated where why
(24:32):
are these women, men and women the only people expected
to just take that. You know, I do news in
the morning. I'm not sitting around and nobody just comes in.
I hate the way you do your news and spit
some my face or throws the battery at me, like
football players get batteries and snowballs and things thrown at them.
And my point is, we love sports. It's highly violatle
it's it's impassioned. You're into it as a player, and
(24:54):
you're right on the edge, right it's football violent, you
right on the edge of like organized chaos. You're mad
you blew this player, this team just beat you, and
somebody's booing you, flicking you off, a throw a beer
or a snowballer, And I'm supposed to be the bigger man, Like,
I don't get why that's.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
The case, because that's not for you to handle. That's
the same thing in a in a dispute whatever. That's
why you have police. You don't just go handle it yourself. Okay, no,
no you don't. That's not that's not the best way.
But you know what I'm saying. And as a professional,
as a professional representing a city, a league, there's all
(25:33):
kinds of stuff. You sign this, you decide that this
is what you want to do. Your idea of going
in the stands. You can get the situation rectified. I'm
not talking about somebody throwing a bottle or b or
or like trying to injure you that that's that person
has to be dealt with. You have to point that
person out whatever. But you can't be where you're trying
(25:58):
to get in the stands to have an alter care
and open up your your not only yourself team league.
Who you swinging on? Do you really know who that
person is? Do you really know who through the beer you?
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Do?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You see what I'm saying, Like, there's a lot that
goes with it. And I don't think that's where you
want to be. And I don't think that's where you
want to be as a league where players are going
in and beating up fans.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
No, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't think that you ever want to be there.
I don't ever want to be there. But I also
want to go to work where I don't have to
deal with that. Right you and I come here, I
expect know what I'm saying, Well, are you be an adult?
You paid your ticket, come injoy the game, call me Westbrook,
say boo, say you suck whatever. Somebody thrown up because
(26:45):
you said Westbrook that's what I'm saying. That's gonna say.
You're allowed to say Westbrook is what I'm saying. I'm
saying now, I'm fine with that. I'm fine what you're saying.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
I suck. I can buy boo and all that boo.
I'm with all that.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
If it's past that, David Alex, we might have too.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
If you buck, we gotta knock. If you buck.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
If you're throwing batteries at me, Rob, if you're throwing
snowballs at the meat Propt.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
He feels meds. That's right. Look at Rob g you
call him my kids this.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You're flicking me off, you're grabbing my shoulder, you're throwing
sould in my face.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
Knock if you buck. I'm not that type of person.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
Me Kelvin Washington, However you do you if this is
what I can't be mad at an adult? Yes, you can
want to just watch an adult you throw something at them.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That is.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
On me.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
The ones is on me, not the adults.
Speaker 5 (27:36):
Yes, on you as a professional athlete to go to
security and say that dude right there just did this
or that. That's what you do. You don't have to
go settle it. My daughters do that inchol. I'm a
grown man, Alex. Tell her what I'm doing. My daughter's
gonna get to teacher, Rob, That's what I'm doing. No,
(28:01):
you won't be a profession you won't be a professional
athlete for long, because that's not the way it should
be handled it.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Never Hey, hey, Rod Parker, mister red jacket person who
really ain't here for security. He's just trying to get
some free tickets every now and again. That guy right
there just threw a battery of snowball popcorn beer at me.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
No, I've seen guys.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
There was a guy, a famous one where a guy
at the Giants came through a snowball. They had the camera,
they found out it was him and everything, and he
was ejected or whatever. I'm not saying that they shouldn't
be disciplined if they break the rules of being a fan.
And we've seen that, but that's not for every situation.
You're trying to go in the stands to fight people.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
But wouldn't you agree to that? I wouldn't. I'm just
being honest. I don't know, Rod.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
I would never go in to fight them. No, I
would just block them on Twitter. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
That you would do that. But I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Right I'm block It's my Twitter, and I'll block it
by walk to block it, by walk to block. If
I walk to you would block too, if they tried
to dish you.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
That's what I'm doing. Rob G's with me, Robbi with me.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I'm sitting here, look at me, minding my business, and
hy do.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
The matter hits me? You may fight, nobody say, just listen.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
The greatest example is the mouse at the Palace run
our test because he was not meta yet try.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
To do the best thing ever. Do you not agree?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
No?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He didn't. He went like this, walked away from Ben Wallas,
laid on the scorts. No, but Sousa threw a what
a soda at him, a drink a beer?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
So on, what do you mean, robb G come in
here and throw that soda you're sipping on right now?
Speaker 3 (29:45):
And Rob's face, Oh, I'm just saying, Oh I would,
I would just I would go get the authorities, and.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
I was, you know, it would be more offensive to
me than him actually throwing a soda on me. The
identity threw a ten dollars drink and wasted it.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Maybe that's why I that would that would be you,
That would be that would bother me more than that
that would be you. I agree with you. That would
you throw a ten dollars soda on somebody? Rob? I
can't believe you're trying to sell me on this. I'm
not serious.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
I would never Robbie, where are you on this? Please
tell me I'm not crazy. I'm not saying every single
thing in life, but there's a certain point where.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
A professional you can't fight at all.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Ever, Rois Oh, I'm with Dub one thousand percent. Rob
one thousand percent. Now, I'm not a violent person. No,
I'm not actively looking to fight somebody. But I'm also
not gonna not defend myself if somebody is gonna throw
objects at me like I'm some circus animal.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Right, that's the crazy. You're an adult. It's not a
ten year or twelve ero circus animal.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Cause I'm talking about fighting because somebody threw a drink
on you.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yes, yes, I'm okay. Watch this, Robbie. Watch you if
you and I you back on your cheesecake. You're excited
and we're sitting at cheesecake factory and you're at the bar. Hey,
by the way, let me get up. What are you
drinking with Cosmo? Whatever you're thinking? You get your Cosmo
and some guy goes, hey, Rob Parker, I hate your takes.
Speaker 3 (31:07):
I hate your.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Show, and I really hate Aaron Rodgers. And they throw
a drink at you. Rob Parker's gonna be knocking if
he's bucking, and then I gonna go hold my cheesecake
and I gotta go help you.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
What I would do to hear this?
Speaker 5 (31:22):
I would call Scott told him that our boss that
he needs to come over the cheesecake factory because we
gotta see You.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Know, these listeners were listening long enough, they don't buy it, right,
and you got a little New York and you.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Still because I represent Fox Sports Radio at all times?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Do you listen to the show. We barely represent Talk
Sports right, we barely hanging on right? Alex?
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Where are you come on? My music?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Just tasteful?
Speaker 1 (31:48):
How dare you think of scrimmaging and throwing these barbaric
hands on people for things that are just so trivic?
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Alex? Simple? What you want to squabble of a fact?
So would you like to disdain over tea and crumpets?
You were reason?
Speaker 5 (32:02):
I wouldn't even breathe no reason that you're not going
to give that god a satisfaction, or I wouldn't even
ask his name.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
The best part about this is I know for a
fact that some crazy I hate the odd couple through
a drink in Rob's face at cheesecake Factory.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Rob Parker will go full Queens New York. So you
know what I would dot class.
Speaker 5 (32:21):
I would open my mouth to try to get as
much of it as the drink was coming on.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Crazy drop, Rob, Your your good friend fifty would be
very upset with your answer this question.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was a crazy We say what I.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Said your good friend fifty sent We were really upset
with you for this response. All right, Can I just
say this on behalf of double We got young kids
who were both you know, gonna grow up to be fine,
worldly individuals.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
From ten years ago to ten years from now.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
These hands are rated for everyone exactly, exactly
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