June 18, 2025 • 23 mins
Rob and Kelvin share their thoughts on the Buss Family finally deciding to sell their controlling interest in the Los Angeles Lakers, tell us why they have a big problem with all the melodrama surrounding Caitlin Clark, and debate whether this latest off-field incident should be enough for the Cleveland Browns to move on from Shedeur Sanders.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Stop babing her, Stop babing her. She's absolutely going to
get filed. She's gonna get filed hard at times. This
is part of the game. Who's the greatest player ever
to touch a basketball? Michael Jordan? You know what Michael
Jordan got did first a couple of years, two three years,
They got beat up. People will stop flying through the air.
You're not about to embarrass me dunking on people doing
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all this. Put your tongue back in your mouth, all
of that. This is part of the course a little bit.
And yes, she's getting filed hard, and yes, this is
a part of the game. And you know what the
best part about this is. You know who isn't complaining,
Caitlyn Clark. You know who isn't making a big brew
out of this Caitlyn Clark. She gets into it. She
gets chippy by the way. She gets in the middle
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of some of this. She ins to Gates, she talks smack,
she'll bump somebody. So she is a part of this
as well, and she knows this is part of the game.
And she also knows I'm a superstar, I'm young, I'm
the face of the league, and a lot of people
don't like it comes with the territory. It is what
it is. I'm very popular. I love this opportunity to
get to play the game I love. And she's all
right with it more than everybody else. She's the one
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who doesn't make a big deal of it. So to me,
I think we make a big deal of something that
we ask for. What do we say we want? We
want passion and we want people to care. We want tenacity,
we want toughness, we want rivalries. We want that in
our sports. Oh wait, they're getting tough. They're being rivalries.
They're pushing each other, they're shoving. Do you want it
or you don't want it? We say we want it.
We want aggressive, we want people to we have the
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games to matter, and then when they do, they're chippy
they're putting it, you know, they're they're fighting for it.
Then we have issues with it. So to me, we're
making a big thing out of nothing. Every time she
gets touched up, it's a thing. And I think that's
what also adds to the frustration of the WNBA players.
My guys, if we follow her, we can't do anything.
We chip, we get a little chippy with her. It's
a big thing, and I think that adds to why
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they get their extra little push for the you know,
money for the push, push for the money, I should say.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So, I don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't even think she thinks it's a big deal
because they after the game, she goes, are we gonna
talk basketball or what y'all call me up here to
talk some hoops? What are we talking about? All these
technical files and all that about? So to me, stopbabing her.
It's she's a part of it. She's an adjutant at times,
she frustrates people at times as part of the game.
And to me, I thought we wanted that. I thought
we wanted people who cared and passionate. Anymore, Rob, I
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don't see a big deal about this, as like we're
making it a big deal when even the person involved
doesn't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, I just think she's jumped to shark.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The whole Caitlyn Clark thing is now like bigger than life,
and every little thing is Look, oh they hate her,
they're jealous. Even in basketball plays can get she can
be fouled hard.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's everything. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If they're pulling her hair and eye galluging her and
you know and all that, then maybe I'm like, Okay,
something's going on here.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But you can't even be like just pulling hair and
I got it's just.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
O w w E, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like, but the idea that if they do anything was
physical to her, it's it's like Dave Roberts having a
stomach ache because because show hey got hit Oh my god,
all the end of the world, showy old tiny got
hit by a ball.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
What are they doing?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Like this is the people get hit by a ball.
They okay, you're swinging that, Well, I'm a pus. I'm
gonna pitch you inside. I mnna hit you. Let you know,
the back up a little bit. Don't get too comfortable
in the box. Same thing with her. Come on, man,
it's ridiculous everything Caitlin Clark this, we get it. She's
the cash cow, but we can't sell. Are we gonna
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stop playing basketball? Why don't you just suspend anybody who
breathes on her? I mean, it's it's a joke. It
really is getting that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm with you, and I keep bringing up anytime it's
brought up. She's the one like, hey, it's part of
the game. It is what it is right now. I'm
just happy we're playing well and my shots fall like
she moves on like it's she knows it's part of
the game. You know who was the cash cow the
NBA in the eighties, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. You
know it was getting the head taken off Larry Bird
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and Magic Johnson.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So to me, things happen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm not saying you gotta getting clothes line all the time,
but what I'm saying is a hard following. If you
looked at it, the original defender was reaching for the ball.
It just happened to hit her face, and then the
other girl, and then Caitlyn kind of gets to her
chest like, hey, don't be hit me in the face
and then the other girl, of course, defends her teammate.
So to me, we can't do this, you can't clamor
and cry for we want this. We want tough, we
want passion, we want that, we want to feel like
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you really want it. And then when I really want
it and things it chippy And what have we been
happy about? This postseason? In the NBA, they're letting them
play again. The passion is there again. Guys are competing again.
Look at guys. It's getting a little tough and a
little chippy out there again. We like that, we want that,
and we're getting that into w NBA. It just happens
to me. She's a star, and stars get beat up,
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stars get iced out of games, stars get filed, stars
get pitched in close.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Stuff happens, right.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I just don't like, Like, I get it, you don't
want to, you don't want you don't want you don't
want her injured or something that's like out of bounds
and I get that, But a hard foul in basketball,
like it's the end of the world. Like, don't make
it like that, because then the players really will resent her,
you know what I mean? That's what I'm saying this, Yeah,
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you don't want to do that. Let her be like
everybody else. You got knocked down, other players getting knocked
down every night. I'm sure all the players are looking going, dude,
are you kidding? That happened to me four times last night.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Nothing happened when Steph Curry started to become Steph Curry
in the NBA, Stefh Curry was getting some hard files
because people were like, all right, you ain't about to
be doing all that shimmy shimmy, shooting threes, biting your
little mouthpiece.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
He was getting hard files. He was running off the screens.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
People were giving a little extra little chip, a little
extra little bump, you know what I mean. When you're
doing something unique and different and and and your game
has a tendency to embarrass people. People ain't trying to
be embarrassed. They're gonna let you know, I'm gonna touch
you up a little bit. And that's part of the game.
And it always has been part of the game. And
she knows that. And I give her credit to me
for not making a big deal not why why is
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it always me?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Why is everybody picking up me?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
She's she's tough, she's out there, she's talking smack and
she's flexing when she's busting threes and her forty feet
out and she's she's enjoying the game. And I like
that about her that even when it went college it
was issues and what was going on.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Andrew, She's like, man, it's a part of the game.
Y'all keep making a big deal.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It reminds me of Larry Bird when now that's stuff,
and when Dennis Robin was like, oh Larry Bird was black,
he'd be just another guy whatever. And Isaiah Thomas kind
of echoed the dot and Larry Burr said, man, y'all
the ones making this a big deal, I'm over it.
Fro you know, I accept their apology. Let's move on.
She's like, can we just talk hoops? And I like
that about her.
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's a sale the owner basically the owner of the Dodgers.
I bought the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But if there is an asterisk though, I must say,
according to ESPN, for the foreseeable future, even with the
new ownership in place.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You could just you could say this and I'm gonna
just toss it away.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Genie bust will remain were governor of the team, She'll
be the governeveral years to come.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
She'll be the governor of Illinois, is what she'll be.
She will not be the governor of the Lakers. Because
that's what didn't they tell us that when Mark Cuban
and then Mark Cuban says, I didn't even know they
would train Luca, Well, how are you running? You claimed
you sold the team and you were gonna be running
in being involved, and then he comes out and says,
I didn't even know what's happening. There's no way they're
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gonna give her and her family ten billion dollars and
then have her run it and have her sign people
the big contracts and run up the expense the American
Express cards and whining dot no no. Once you give
up the ten billion, that's it. All I'm gonna say
on this is it's good news. If you're a Laker fan,
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this is great news. Finally, the the Los Angeles Lakers
will not be run like a mom in pop store,
and that's what it has been run Like all right,
Lebron came in to get gum and they let him
take two bags of potato chips with them like that.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They were supposed to get Ty Lou all these many
years ago when it right, they didn't want to pay
him because they were already paying and want to pay money.
Look at the coaches. There's a reason, there's a pattern.
That's why I was so shocking. Even when they went
after Yukon's coach, you know what a big deal. That
was shocking because they normally don't want to pay just
because you own the Lakers and people think, oh.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
No, this is their only business.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
When you go talk about these other owners, they make money,
Are you kidding? James Dolan family owns a cable vision
or whatever, like they got gazillions of dollars. And we
know the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Steve one or whatever it is billions, the.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Mets owner another got billions like that, like the team
that's for fun something to dude exactly. But this will
be good for the Lakers because finally they'll run it
like a real organization. It's not going to be like
the Dodgers. They're not gonna run out. They can't run
out and spend a gazillion dollars on people. It just
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doesn't it's not the same formula. But I believe they'll
be trying to win, because that's what the Dodgers have
done since they got new ownership. They're trying to win
every year. They're going out. No more Kurt Rambus, no
more Linda Rambus.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And you got the Rambai. You got an issue with
the Rambay.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
We like the movie Rambo, but we don't like the Rambai.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, I think this is kind of a to me,
it's a two it's two headed monster. If you will
on one end, if you're a Laker fan, born and
raised here and just it's just your home, I think
it is sad. I think you've gotten used to the
Bus family, right, I think you've robbed you a great example.
I don't know exactly when you were born, but you've
known nothing but the Bus family. You know, they got
the ownership and I think was eighty and uh, this
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is all they've ever you've ever known is doctor Buss.
And when the doctor Bus era was going, you had
a bunch of success, right, You had a whole lot
of winning through the eighties and the nineties were fun,
but not necessarily but winning Boom, you bounced right back
with the Kobe and Shaq Era and then obviously you
run off with the Kobe and Pow and so on
and so forth to the even.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Lebron six she is with no champion playoff.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
This is why I bring this up wide is while
it is challenging, there's multiple ways of skin and cat in.
This franchise has been run like a mom and pop,
a family owned business, which is what it is, and
this has been the family's bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know why it's good because Rob g got to
see Kobe his entire career. If this was another ownership,
they might have gotten, Hey, he's getting old, he's starting
to get break down, get him out of here.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
We don't care.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The numbers say this, the mask says this, We're not
gonna We're not gonna pay this guy's aging, a guy
who's getting beat down and broken down. But there's loyalty
with the Bus family and they said, you know what,
We're gonna ride out with Kobe and give him money
that some would say he deserves because all he's done.
Others will say it makes work all right, But I'm
saying this is why, if you're a fan, you will
love the family aspect of this business. If you're a fan,
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you love the family aspect because of how Magic Johnson
was always around in and out, being a president, not
the president, around part ownership, not ownership, and magic is
just a part of it. And I think you love
that familia that the Bus family created, and I think
that's part of the magic of the Lakers over the
last forty years has been this mystique, this family, in
the aura of it. However, I do think there's an
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element of knowing when to cut ties, knowing when you
have to be pragmatic, knowing when you have to make
moves that a new ownership will be able to do.
And now this new ownership being tied to the Dodgers,
this is exactly what they've done. They let guys go
when they needed to, you know, they didn't they you know,
are you gotta go?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Corey Seeger? Which is you know you want to go? Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yankee now messing? Uh what am I missing with Yankee?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It was, you know what I'm talking about they gonna
come to me and just left me. But when they
got to let guys go, they let guys go. And
so I do think this will be from the business end,
this will be a better run team. But I do
think the mistique the Magic of Lakers. People are gonna
be sad. They gotten used to seeing Genie Bus, they
got used to seeing doctor Bus, they got used to
the relationship that this team had with the city. Absolutely,
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she's gonna still be around kind of how Magic would
just be like around just to kind of be the
you know case Cody Tody Belgium. That's what I was
looking for Magic was you got the ceremonial face of
the team, if you will, face of the franchise. I
think Genie Buss will kind of have that role still
where people are familiar with her, they love her around
the city, and they'll have that feel. But making decisions,
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making business moves, I don't see that at all. They
you know, they're gonna absolutely run things how they want
to run things while keeping a familiar face in a
position to kind of be around the town and be
the ceremonial leader, if you will.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
But this is a yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Got the Mavericks selling the team. You got the Celtics
selling the team. Now you got the Lakers selling. Michael
Jordans sold the team. Michael Jordan sold the team. So Minnesota,
you got Phoenix. Just yep, Phoenix just sold. It's a
bigger thing. And let me tell you, it's a lot
going on right now. And maybe there's a sign of
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good things for the league. Maybe not ratings right now,
but in a larger still financial.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think people are getting out because you're paying people
sixty and seventy million dollars and they don't want to
be a part of it, like that collapse and what
they're doing is taking the money. Michael Jordan doesn't worry
about money. He's got were talking about money. He got out.
Mark Cuban got plenty of money, but he's a billionaire,
got got out. Like That's when you start to see
people like that get out. That worries you. I understand
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the Bus family, they paid sixty seven million dollars ten billion. Yeah,
I mean exactly, I see that. But when I see
Jordan and Mark Cuban loved.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Every minute of being an owner, you know that for
him to give that up told me. I do think though,
But then the other side of that Robb is to me,
people are spending You thought the Lakers be worth five million,
six billion, seven ten billion. People are cashing out crazy money.
And the people who are doing this are exactly what
we were saying. They're great business mind minded folks. They
know numbers, they know how to make this stuff work,
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and they're not cashing out at that high of a
value if they see this going down. No, no, May,
I'm not saying that the guard maybe how it's how
we view.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It, and I'm saying that people are hold when they
start to get out. You always got to question why.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
For for for the bus family, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I mean Cuban got it. Cuban got it for the
low too, though not.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
For no but not even Michael Jordan. But that still
could have been a playtoy for him, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
For him.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No good when you can say they and they got
out before the new TV deal.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that told me something to.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
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Speaker 6 (15:30):
Actually, right before we were going on air, we mentioned
how last week Shador Sanders wrapped up Brown's mini camp
by putting on an absolute show. Finish that work first
week camp for three passing nine touchdowns, one interception, respect
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highest completion percentage, most touchdowns of any of the four
quarterbacks in the competition. But as Rob Parker pointed out,
the only problem is he's also the only quarterback in
Browns Minicham who did not get any reps with the
ones thank you none ze Na to Early Tuesday morning,
at twelve twenty four am, to be exact, my guy
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should Door was sighted for driving one hundred and one
miles per hour in a black Dodge pickup truck through
the streets of Ohio, forty one miles per hour above.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
The speed limits.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Wow, he's either got to pay himself a fine or
he's got to fight this in court like the rest
of us minions.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
All Right, I'll have a serious announcement that I had
to make, and this is serious, Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I love and his wife Aaron.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you for that confession, Rob, We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
If I'm the Browns and I'm seeing this going on
I'm gonna have to pull the plug on the Chador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
He should be cut immediately. Okay, I'm not serious, but
I'm serious and I want to say this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Backup quarterbacks, fifth round picks should be seen, not sighted.
It's the worst thing you can do that, do you
know what I mean? You know, obviously I'm playing about
being cut, but that is not what you want. Because
once you become a distraction and you start doing stuff,
that's when it's easier for people to say, do we
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really want this? This is not came to Cleveland. People
make mistakes. I'm not saying you've got to be perfect,
but this is not what you want. This is just
you could avoid this. You don't need to be driving.
You could have a driver. I mean, you can talk
about all kinds of stuff. Don't make yourself a distraction
when you're not in the plans for an organization.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And that's all I'm saying. I think I think it's
just a bad look.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I just think you're you don't have the built in
equity to do this. Lamar Jackson, not that he would
or should, but if he were to get you know, speed,
and we haven't heard much about Lamar getting in trouble
and then for one time he got you know, hey
he got caught going forty one miles over the speed limit.
The Ravens would say, hey, this is our guy's been
a model citizen. Something happened, you know you and we
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all go, right, look at this, Lamar. That's why they
put eracers on pencils. Yeah, and when you're fighting for
your playing career life, you know, you're trying to make
a team. This is something you do deep and let
me add to this, Rob, when you're coming in already,
then more the more so than your play, was the
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noise and the thing surrounding you, right, because anytime you
and I have had an expert on and something, they
all say, look, we know the tape said he was
a first second round pick.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
What is the next perst all.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The tape says he the first time first a first tape,
first round pick. Everyone agrees on that. Effery the people,
and that's what we hear. He's bad interviewing. He thought
he was too arrogant. He took it, he didn't took
it lightly. He didn't do his home, he didn't do
his homework. So that's some of the reporting that was
out there. My point is you can't have these type
of issues when that's what's coming in is the noise,
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just the outside stuff, because we already know, for the
most part, the football stuff's going to be there, and
I think he's going to ultimately end up being the
most talented player on the quarterback roster. Whatever they decide
to do, we'll have to wait and see. But you
can't have this now again, we've all gotten the speeding ticket.
Is it the worst thing ever? No, but you can't
do this when you don't have equity build with the team,
And that's a lesson everybody should know, whatever your job is,
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if you're the new person and you're trying to climb
up this ladder and they can potentially see you as expendable,
you can't come in with any drama and win any issues,
especially when there was concern about outside drama and issues.
So I think he'll be fine. I don't think it's
the worst thing. I think they'll talk to him. I
think they'll actually mention kind of what you said there.
Hey man, we got drivers, we got people just you know,
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work with. If we need something, call us slow down.
But at a end, the last thing he needed was
drama around his name when he's trying to finally separate
himself from that and make it just about the football, right.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Because it's not now and you got another story and
now it's got to be in the news.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
What he's gonna do is he gonna fight it?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know what I mean exactly. It's it's a storyline
and headlines that are going to be out there, and
it just it just didn't need to happen. I mean,
and he didn't just go five miles over the speed limit.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
This is this is Yeah. I don't know if I've
ever one hundred and one or was it one hundred
and one? Robb G?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You said that man that I had you know, I
had to challenge it too. That's a whole Just go
check out my challenge. I wasn't getting up.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
There like robb G. We talked about the Raiders or receiver.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Uh Henry Robs. Yeah, he just he's been doing some podcasts.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
He just he just like.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Apologized to the family and he was driving over one
hundred miles an hour and killed a young woman. Like
like he's in jail for like was it four or
five years or something like that, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He's got out early.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
No, he's trying to get out.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yes, I know it's like to speak to people, but
there's no defense obviously what Henry Ruggs did, because influence
everything like that. But if you wanted to, you know,
play Devil's Advocate Henry Ruggs. According to Nick Saban, Josh
Jacobs was a great guy, stand up guy. Never got
in trouble with anybody. He made one horrific decision according
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to them, and it cost them one in their life.
So Shador Sanders to your point, great kid never did
anything wrong, because all it takes is one bad decision
to really ruin someone's life.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And that's the worst. Why you've heard me say this
off the air because we talked about things. That's one
of the worst things about life is that oftentimes the
one time you did something or that that thing he
did is can kind of derail all the good stuff
all the other times you did it the right way.
That's that's one of the bad you know, kind of suck,
but it is a part of life, it is.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
But that's people make mistakes. There's difference getting behind the
wheel when you're drunk driving like a hundred one hundred
miles an hour where somebody else could be involved. This
is where somebody else, a passer by, a stand by,
you know what I mean, a pedestrian or something I
don't another car can wind up getting hurt or maimed
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or killed. That that's why those things are so dangerous,
and it catches your attention.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Like the person in the car with you sometimes like
you're get an accident, you're find the driver and you're alive. Yeah,
it happens a lot. Yeah, so I gain we were
on the same page. That not the worst thing in
the world. He's whatever, I don't know, twenty one years old,
whatever it is. Two It's just you didn't need this
right now. He shouldn't be doing it period, but you
definitely didn't need it right now if you're trying to
(22:36):
fight for a rock spot on the team, fight for
you know, if he I'm sure he feels he wants
to be a starter. These little things outside noise doesn't.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Help at all.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And it's gonna be interesting just to see, you know
what the hotter Brown's handlers or what their response, robber
you did they even have a response?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, so I don't have no.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
One like probably tomorrow they're working on it. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, and should or I mean, I'm not saying he
should be cut over a speeding ticket. Obviously not, but uh,
how do you handle it?
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Stop babing her, Stop babing her. She's absolutely going to
get filed. She's gonna get filed hard at times. This
is part of the game. Who's the greatest player ever
to touch a basketball? Michael Jordan? You know what Michael
Jordan got did first a couple of years, two three years,
They got beat up. People will stop flying through the air.
You're not about to embarrass me dunking on people doing
(00:49):
all this. Put your tongue back in your mouth, all
of that. This is part of the course a little bit.
And yes, she's getting filed hard, and yes, this is
a part of the game. And you know what the
best part about this is. You know who isn't complaining,
Caitlyn Clark. You know who isn't making a big brew
out of this Caitlyn Clark. She gets into it. She
gets chippy by the way. She gets in the middle
(01:09):
of some of this. She ins to Gates, she talks smack,
she'll bump somebody. So she is a part of this
as well, and she knows this is part of the game.
And she also knows I'm a superstar, I'm young, I'm
the face of the league, and a lot of people
don't like it comes with the territory. It is what
it is. I'm very popular. I love this opportunity to
get to play the game I love. And she's all
right with it more than everybody else. She's the one
(01:30):
who doesn't make a big deal of it. So to me,
I think we make a big deal of something that
we ask for. What do we say we want? We
want passion and we want people to care. We want tenacity,
we want toughness, we want rivalries. We want that in
our sports. Oh wait, they're getting tough. They're being rivalries.
They're pushing each other, they're shoving. Do you want it
or you don't want it? We say we want it.
We want aggressive, we want people to we have the
(01:51):
games to matter, and then when they do, they're chippy
they're putting it, you know, they're they're fighting for it.
Then we have issues with it. So to me, we're
making a big thing out of nothing. Every time she
gets touched up, it's a thing. And I think that's
what also adds to the frustration of the WNBA players.
My guys, if we follow her, we can't do anything.
We chip, we get a little chippy with her. It's
a big thing, and I think that adds to why
(02:12):
they get their extra little push for the you know,
money for the push, push for the money, I should say.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
So, I don't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I don't even think she thinks it's a big deal
because they after the game, she goes, are we gonna
talk basketball or what y'all call me up here to
talk some hoops? What are we talking about? All these
technical files and all that about? So to me, stopbabing her.
It's she's a part of it. She's an adjutant at times,
she frustrates people at times as part of the game.
And to me, I thought we wanted that. I thought
we wanted people who cared and passionate. Anymore, Rob, I
(02:40):
don't see a big deal about this, as like we're
making it a big deal when even the person involved
doesn't think it's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Yeah, I just think she's jumped to shark.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
The whole Caitlyn Clark thing is now like bigger than life,
and every little thing is Look, oh they hate her,
they're jealous. Even in basketball plays can get she can
be fouled hard.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's everything. It's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
If they're pulling her hair and eye galluging her and
you know and all that, then maybe I'm like, Okay,
something's going on here.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But you can't even be like just pulling hair and
I got it's just.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
O w w E, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Like, but the idea that if they do anything was
physical to her, it's it's like Dave Roberts having a
stomach ache because because show hey got hit Oh my god,
all the end of the world, showy old tiny got
hit by a ball.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
What are they doing?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Like this is the people get hit by a ball.
They okay, you're swinging that, Well, I'm a pus. I'm
gonna pitch you inside. I mnna hit you. Let you know,
the back up a little bit. Don't get too comfortable
in the box. Same thing with her. Come on, man,
it's ridiculous everything Caitlin Clark this, we get it. She's
the cash cow, but we can't sell. Are we gonna
(04:02):
stop playing basketball? Why don't you just suspend anybody who
breathes on her? I mean, it's it's a joke. It
really is getting that.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
I'm with you, and I keep bringing up anytime it's
brought up. She's the one like, hey, it's part of
the game. It is what it is right now. I'm
just happy we're playing well and my shots fall like
she moves on like it's she knows it's part of
the game. You know who was the cash cow the
NBA in the eighties, Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. You
know it was getting the head taken off Larry Bird
(04:30):
and Magic Johnson.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
So to me, things happen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm not saying you gotta getting clothes line all the time,
but what I'm saying is a hard following. If you
looked at it, the original defender was reaching for the ball.
It just happened to hit her face, and then the
other girl, and then Caitlyn kind of gets to her
chest like, hey, don't be hit me in the face
and then the other girl, of course, defends her teammate.
So to me, we can't do this, you can't clamor
and cry for we want this. We want tough, we
want passion, we want that, we want to feel like
(04:53):
you really want it. And then when I really want
it and things it chippy And what have we been
happy about? This postseason? In the NBA, they're letting them
play again. The passion is there again. Guys are competing again.
Look at guys. It's getting a little tough and a
little chippy out there again. We like that, we want that,
and we're getting that into w NBA. It just happens
to me. She's a star, and stars get beat up,
(05:17):
stars get iced out of games, stars get filed, stars
get pitched in close.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Stuff happens, right.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
I just don't like, Like, I get it, you don't
want to, you don't want you don't want you don't
want her injured or something that's like out of bounds
and I get that, But a hard foul in basketball,
like it's the end of the world. Like, don't make
it like that, because then the players really will resent her,
you know what I mean? That's what I'm saying this, Yeah,
(05:45):
you don't want to do that. Let her be like
everybody else. You got knocked down, other players getting knocked
down every night. I'm sure all the players are looking going, dude,
are you kidding? That happened to me four times last night.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Nothing happened when Steph Curry started to become Steph Curry
in the NBA, Stefh Curry was getting some hard files
because people were like, all right, you ain't about to
be doing all that shimmy shimmy, shooting threes, biting your
little mouthpiece.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
He was getting hard files. He was running off the screens.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
People were giving a little extra little chip, a little
extra little bump, you know what I mean. When you're
doing something unique and different and and and your game
has a tendency to embarrass people. People ain't trying to
be embarrassed. They're gonna let you know, I'm gonna touch
you up a little bit. And that's part of the game.
And it always has been part of the game. And
she knows that. And I give her credit to me
for not making a big deal not why why is
(06:30):
it always me?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Why is everybody picking up me?
Speaker 3 (06:32):
She's she's tough, she's out there, she's talking smack and
she's flexing when she's busting threes and her forty feet
out and she's she's enjoying the game. And I like
that about her that even when it went college it
was issues and what was going on.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Andrew, She's like, man, it's a part of the game.
Y'all keep making a big deal.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
It reminds me of Larry Bird when now that's stuff,
and when Dennis Robin was like, oh Larry Bird was black,
he'd be just another guy whatever. And Isaiah Thomas kind
of echoed the dot and Larry Burr said, man, y'all
the ones making this a big deal, I'm over it.
Fro you know, I accept their apology. Let's move on.
She's like, can we just talk hoops? And I like
that about her.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
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Speaker 1 (07:18):
It's a sale the owner basically the owner of the Dodgers.
I bought the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
But if there is an asterisk though, I must say,
according to ESPN, for the foreseeable future, even with the
new ownership in place.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
You could just you could say this and I'm gonna
just toss it away.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Genie bust will remain were governor of the team, She'll
be the governeveral years to come.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
She'll be the governor of Illinois, is what she'll be.
She will not be the governor of the Lakers. Because
that's what didn't they tell us that when Mark Cuban
and then Mark Cuban says, I didn't even know they
would train Luca, Well, how are you running? You claimed
you sold the team and you were gonna be running
in being involved, and then he comes out and says,
I didn't even know what's happening. There's no way they're
(08:00):
gonna give her and her family ten billion dollars and
then have her run it and have her sign people
the big contracts and run up the expense the American
Express cards and whining dot no no. Once you give
up the ten billion, that's it. All I'm gonna say
on this is it's good news. If you're a Laker fan,
(08:22):
this is great news. Finally, the the Los Angeles Lakers
will not be run like a mom in pop store,
and that's what it has been run Like all right,
Lebron came in to get gum and they let him
take two bags of potato chips with them like that.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
That's what it was like.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
They were supposed to get Ty Lou all these many
years ago when it right, they didn't want to pay
him because they were already paying and want to pay money.
Look at the coaches. There's a reason, there's a pattern.
That's why I was so shocking. Even when they went
after Yukon's coach, you know what a big deal. That
was shocking because they normally don't want to pay just
because you own the Lakers and people think, oh.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
No, this is their only business.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
When you go talk about these other owners, they make money,
Are you kidding? James Dolan family owns a cable vision
or whatever, like they got gazillions of dollars. And we
know the Clippers.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Steve one or whatever it is billions, the.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Mets owner another got billions like that, like the team
that's for fun something to dude exactly. But this will
be good for the Lakers because finally they'll run it
like a real organization. It's not going to be like
the Dodgers. They're not gonna run out. They can't run
out and spend a gazillion dollars on people. It just
(09:45):
doesn't it's not the same formula. But I believe they'll
be trying to win, because that's what the Dodgers have
done since they got new ownership. They're trying to win
every year. They're going out. No more Kurt Rambus, no
more Linda Rambus.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
And you got the Rambai. You got an issue with
the Rambay.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
We like the movie Rambo, but we don't like the Rambai.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
Yeah, I think this is kind of a to me,
it's a two it's two headed monster. If you will
on one end, if you're a Laker fan, born and
raised here and just it's just your home, I think
it is sad. I think you've gotten used to the
Bus family, right, I think you've robbed you a great example.
I don't know exactly when you were born, but you've
known nothing but the Bus family. You know, they got
the ownership and I think was eighty and uh, this
(10:31):
is all they've ever you've ever known is doctor Buss.
And when the doctor Bus era was going, you had
a bunch of success, right, You had a whole lot
of winning through the eighties and the nineties were fun,
but not necessarily but winning Boom, you bounced right back
with the Kobe and Shaq Era and then obviously you
run off with the Kobe and Pow and so on
and so forth to the even.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Lebron six she is with no champion playoff.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
But I'm glad you brought it up.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
This is why I bring this up wide is while
it is challenging, there's multiple ways of skin and cat in.
This franchise has been run like a mom and pop,
a family owned business, which is what it is, and
this has been the family's bread and butter.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
So it's been good.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You know why it's good because Rob g got to
see Kobe his entire career. If this was another ownership,
they might have gotten, Hey, he's getting old, he's starting
to get break down, get him out of here.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
We don't care.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
The numbers say this, the mask says this, We're not
gonna We're not gonna pay this guy's aging, a guy
who's getting beat down and broken down. But there's loyalty
with the Bus family and they said, you know what,
We're gonna ride out with Kobe and give him money
that some would say he deserves because all he's done.
Others will say it makes work all right, But I'm
saying this is why, if you're a fan, you will
love the family aspect of this business. If you're a fan,
(11:41):
you love the family aspect because of how Magic Johnson
was always around in and out, being a president, not
the president, around part ownership, not ownership, and magic is
just a part of it. And I think you love
that familia that the Bus family created, and I think
that's part of the magic of the Lakers over the
last forty years has been this mystique, this family, in
the aura of it. However, I do think there's an
(12:03):
element of knowing when to cut ties, knowing when you
have to be pragmatic, knowing when you have to make
moves that a new ownership will be able to do.
And now this new ownership being tied to the Dodgers,
this is exactly what they've done. They let guys go
when they needed to, you know, they didn't they you know,
are you gotta go?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Corey Seeger? Which is you know you want to go? Okay?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Yankee now messing? Uh what am I missing with Yankee?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
It was, you know what I'm talking about they gonna
come to me and just left me. But when they
got to let guys go, they let guys go. And
so I do think this will be from the business end,
this will be a better run team. But I do
think the mistique the Magic of Lakers. People are gonna
be sad. They gotten used to seeing Genie Bus, they
got used to seeing doctor Bus, they got used to
the relationship that this team had with the city. Absolutely,
(12:50):
she's gonna still be around kind of how Magic would
just be like around just to kind of be the
you know case Cody Tody Belgium. That's what I was
looking for Magic was you got the ceremonial face of
the team, if you will, face of the franchise. I
think Genie Buss will kind of have that role still
where people are familiar with her, they love her around
the city, and they'll have that feel. But making decisions,
(13:12):
making business moves, I don't see that at all. They
you know, they're gonna absolutely run things how they want
to run things while keeping a familiar face in a
position to kind of be around the town and be
the ceremonial leader, if you will.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
But this is a yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Got the Mavericks selling the team. You got the Celtics
selling the team. Now you got the Lakers selling. Michael
Jordans sold the team. Michael Jordan sold the team. So Minnesota,
you got Phoenix. Just yep, Phoenix just sold. It's a
bigger thing. And let me tell you, it's a lot
going on right now. And maybe there's a sign of
(13:46):
good things for the league. Maybe not ratings right now,
but in a larger still financial.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I think it's the opposite.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
I think people are getting out because you're paying people
sixty and seventy million dollars and they don't want to
be a part of it, like that collapse and what
they're doing is taking the money. Michael Jordan doesn't worry
about money. He's got were talking about money. He got out.
Mark Cuban got plenty of money, but he's a billionaire,
got got out. Like That's when you start to see
people like that get out. That worries you. I understand
(14:16):
the Bus family, they paid sixty seven million dollars ten billion. Yeah,
I mean exactly, I see that. But when I see
Jordan and Mark Cuban loved.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Every minute of being an owner, you know that for
him to give that up told me. I do think though,
But then the other side of that Robb is to me,
people are spending You thought the Lakers be worth five million,
six billion, seven ten billion. People are cashing out crazy money.
And the people who are doing this are exactly what
we were saying. They're great business mind minded folks. They
know numbers, they know how to make this stuff work,
(14:47):
and they're not cashing out at that high of a
value if they see this going down. No, no, May,
I'm not saying that the guard maybe how it's how
we view.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
It, and I'm saying that people are hold when they
start to get out. You always got to question why.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
For for for the bus family, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
I mean Cuban got it. Cuban got it for the
low too, though not.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
For no but not even Michael Jordan. But that still
could have been a playtoy for him, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
For him.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
No good when you can say they and they got
out before the new TV deal.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
So that told me something to.
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Speaker 6 (15:30):
Actually, right before we were going on air, we mentioned
how last week Shador Sanders wrapped up Brown's mini camp
by putting on an absolute show. Finish that work first
week camp for three passing nine touchdowns, one interception, respect
(15:50):
highest completion percentage, most touchdowns of any of the four
quarterbacks in the competition. But as Rob Parker pointed out,
the only problem is he's also the only quarterback in
Browns Minicham who did not get any reps with the
ones thank you none ze Na to Early Tuesday morning,
at twelve twenty four am, to be exact, my guy
(16:12):
should Door was sighted for driving one hundred and one
miles per hour in a black Dodge pickup truck through
the streets of Ohio, forty one miles per hour above.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
The speed limits.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Wow, he's either got to pay himself a fine or
he's got to fight this in court like the rest
of us minions.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
All Right, I'll have a serious announcement that I had
to make, and this is serious, Okay.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
I love and his wife Aaron.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Thank you for that confession, Rob, We appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
If I'm the Browns and I'm seeing this going on
I'm gonna have to pull the plug on the Chador Sanders.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
He should be cut immediately. Okay, I'm not serious, but
I'm serious and I want to say this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Backup quarterbacks, fifth round picks should be seen, not sighted.
It's the worst thing you can do that, do you
know what I mean? You know, obviously I'm playing about
being cut, but that is not what you want. Because
once you become a distraction and you start doing stuff,
that's when it's easier for people to say, do we
(17:27):
really want this? This is not came to Cleveland. People
make mistakes. I'm not saying you've got to be perfect,
but this is not what you want. This is just
you could avoid this. You don't need to be driving.
You could have a driver. I mean, you can talk
about all kinds of stuff. Don't make yourself a distraction
when you're not in the plans for an organization.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And that's all I'm saying. I think I think it's
just a bad look.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I just think you're you don't have the built in
equity to do this. Lamar Jackson, not that he would
or should, but if he were to get you know, speed,
and we haven't heard much about Lamar getting in trouble
and then for one time he got you know, hey
he got caught going forty one miles over the speed limit.
The Ravens would say, hey, this is our guy's been
a model citizen. Something happened, you know you and we
(18:14):
all go, right, look at this, Lamar. That's why they
put eracers on pencils. Yeah, and when you're fighting for
your playing career life, you know, you're trying to make
a team. This is something you do deep and let
me add to this, Rob, when you're coming in already,
then more the more so than your play, was the
(18:34):
noise and the thing surrounding you, right, because anytime you
and I have had an expert on and something, they
all say, look, we know the tape said he was
a first second round pick.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
What is the next perst all.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The tape says he the first time first a first tape,
first round pick. Everyone agrees on that. Effery the people,
and that's what we hear. He's bad interviewing. He thought
he was too arrogant. He took it, he didn't took
it lightly. He didn't do his home, he didn't do
his homework. So that's some of the reporting that was
out there. My point is you can't have these type
of issues when that's what's coming in is the noise,
(19:06):
just the outside stuff, because we already know, for the
most part, the football stuff's going to be there, and
I think he's going to ultimately end up being the
most talented player on the quarterback roster. Whatever they decide
to do, we'll have to wait and see. But you
can't have this now again, we've all gotten the speeding ticket.
Is it the worst thing ever? No, but you can't
do this when you don't have equity build with the team,
And that's a lesson everybody should know, whatever your job is,
(19:28):
if you're the new person and you're trying to climb
up this ladder and they can potentially see you as expendable,
you can't come in with any drama and win any issues,
especially when there was concern about outside drama and issues.
So I think he'll be fine. I don't think it's
the worst thing. I think they'll talk to him. I
think they'll actually mention kind of what you said there.
Hey man, we got drivers, we got people just you know,
(19:49):
work with. If we need something, call us slow down.
But at a end, the last thing he needed was
drama around his name when he's trying to finally separate
himself from that and make it just about the football, right.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Because it's not now and you got another story and
now it's got to be in the news.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
What he's gonna do is he gonna fight it?
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
You know what I mean exactly. It's it's a storyline
and headlines that are going to be out there, and
it just it just didn't need to happen. I mean,
and he didn't just go five miles over the speed limit.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
This is this is Yeah. I don't know if I've
ever one hundred and one or was it one hundred
and one? Robb G?
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You said that man that I had you know, I
had to challenge it too. That's a whole Just go
check out my challenge. I wasn't getting up.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
There like robb G. We talked about the Raiders or receiver.
Speaker 4 (20:39):
Uh Henry Robs. Yeah, he just he's been doing some podcasts.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
He just he just like.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Apologized to the family and he was driving over one
hundred miles an hour and killed a young woman. Like
like he's in jail for like was it four or
five years or something like that, Like.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
He's got out early.
Speaker 5 (20:57):
No, he's trying to get out.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
Yes, I know it's like to speak to people, but
there's no defense obviously what Henry Ruggs did, because influence
everything like that. But if you wanted to, you know,
play Devil's Advocate Henry Ruggs. According to Nick Saban, Josh
Jacobs was a great guy, stand up guy. Never got
in trouble with anybody. He made one horrific decision according
(21:20):
to them, and it cost them one in their life.
So Shador Sanders to your point, great kid never did
anything wrong, because all it takes is one bad decision
to really ruin someone's life.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And that's the worst. Why you've heard me say this
off the air because we talked about things. That's one
of the worst things about life is that oftentimes the
one time you did something or that that thing he
did is can kind of derail all the good stuff
all the other times you did it the right way.
That's that's one of the bad you know, kind of suck,
but it is a part of life, it is.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
But that's people make mistakes. There's difference getting behind the
wheel when you're drunk driving like a hundred one hundred
miles an hour where somebody else could be involved. This
is where somebody else, a passer by, a stand by,
you know what I mean, a pedestrian or something I
don't another car can wind up getting hurt or maimed
(22:10):
or killed. That that's why those things are so dangerous,
and it catches your attention.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Like the person in the car with you sometimes like
you're get an accident, you're find the driver and you're alive. Yeah,
it happens a lot. Yeah, so I gain we were
on the same page. That not the worst thing in
the world. He's whatever, I don't know, twenty one years old,
whatever it is. Two It's just you didn't need this
right now. He shouldn't be doing it period, but you
definitely didn't need it right now if you're trying to
(22:36):
fight for a rock spot on the team, fight for
you know, if he I'm sure he feels he wants
to be a starter. These little things outside noise doesn't.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Help at all.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
And it's gonna be interesting just to see, you know
what the hotter Brown's handlers or what their response, robber
you did they even have a response?
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Yeah, so I don't have no.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
One like probably tomorrow they're working on it. I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
Yeah, and should or I mean, I'm not saying he
should be cut over a speeding ticket. Obviously not, but uh,
how do you handle it?
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