July 3, 2025 • 41 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if the latest gambling scandal involving Cleveland Guardians pitcher Luiz Ortiz should be enough for the major sports leagues to ban prop betting altogether. Next they explain why LeBron James is no longer worth selling the farm for? Finally the guys look at whether or not the Cooper Flagg hype train gone off the rails!
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
You add that kay you know what I'm saying. I mean,
I just want to be specific, that's all.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
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Speaker 4 (01:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:57):
Sweetie be yeah. Absolutely, let me welcome in my co host,
he is Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Look at the camera. Let me tell you something that's
felt like doing it for no reason. I love that
little pull over you man, when you rock that.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I like that. Man, that's hard.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
This is the one that I keep at the studio
now because it's always cold in here. All right, it's
been it's been pretty warm. Yeah, man up, where are
your polo? Where are your dad? Can we getting ready
to go golf?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Here? Alex?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Can we throw another log on the fire? I know
it's July. It's been nice and warm and here it's
been fine. But I will agree today it's a little bit.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I will agree that most of the times you come
in here and you're like, hold on, wait, it's ninety
six degrees outside here, and.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
You have on basically a bra. What is going on?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
No?
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Not a not a broad what you mean? You mean
a bro? That's what we should call.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
You got on a b a bro. Yeah, I want
to see your son's out gun. I'm just jealous, that's all.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I saw a picture of you with the buns out yesterday.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Oh is that your lady wasn't really good? Oh, now
I'm getting more confused. Rob said, I'd recognize those buns.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I said, Alex, a picture with a chick with her
buns out because the someone, I figured.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Ali, she must be a listener. Yeah, very nice. Did
you check to make sure it wasn't her cheeks out, Alex?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Because Rob has a rolex, I mean a whole I mean,
so a folder full of our ladies pictures.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
He does, actually, what are you? Ain't you in there too?
Your lady in there? To stop it?
Speaker 4 (03:31):
He says, it was just an accident, Okay, Kelvin, it
was an accident. Whatever, And I've deleted wife. He's like, oh,
let me show you the invite to when they honored me. Wait,
and he had a swipe. I was like, my wife,
my wife screenshot that I was looking at something she
had on.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I bet have you deleted it?
Speaker 4 (03:50):
As the question I've asked, it's deleted your wife my phone?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
What's on the cloud.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
Or you know, like when you put them all up
into your role, like twenty of them prison days. Yeah,
let's welcome in the odd couple crew, because we wouldn't
be able to do this fine radio program without them.
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Speaker 3 (04:20):
We heard it.
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of it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yes, Soccer, you've been doing great.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Man. He's give me some hip hop questions. We got
to talk about some stuff. What are we talking about now?
Speaker 3 (04:42):
That was because we had dinner in New Orleans. That's
a great time. I got a man. I really enjoyed
you on. We really did, except for the how to
get some of the price.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, I just told somebody that story because somebody's like, oh,
go to this fancy restaurant, said, let me tell you
about our fancy restaurant.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We went to a fancy and the brother said, may
go on the other side. The food's better over there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We thought our little one hundred and fifty was you
put down the allotment and then you work your way
towards that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now that was a starting point.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
It was like they were basically saying, it's gonna be
three fifty yepes each each, three fifty each.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We said, we're working on a company. Uh, I haven't
done mine yet? What you still haven't done it? You're rich?
Are you cannot join that? Are you kidding me? I'm
joining that. You can't know?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You know what my expensions were done? On the flight
back home? Oh ya, I saw you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yes. I don't play around, no doubt about it. Keep
trying and they locked me out.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I gotta figure out all right, let let's go here. Yeah,
some uh we talked about yesterday. Folks like to gamble. Yes,
And by folks, I don't just mean the average Joe, No,
I'm talking about the players as well, and different sports.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So we got another thing, right, Major League Baseball. Lewis
Ortiz is a picture for the Cleveland Guardians.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Correct, and he's under investigation by Major League Baseball after
betting integrity firm they had flagged a pair of pitches. Now,
this is what makes this very very interesting, and it
goes back to a conversation that we had about Malie Beasy,
which I'm sure we'll get to here again. So essentially
they were alerted about a couple of days when he
was pitching, and this was back in June and the
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sportsbook operations I see three sixty they sent that alert
to the MLB. It was called a non disciplinary paid lead,
which is he is on now. This alert because came
because of a couple of innings back of June fifteenth,
rob against the Mariners and June twenty seventh against the Cardinals.
Now at the bottom of the second inning against the Mariners,
top of the third. Essentially, he threw a first pitch
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that day, Dean. It was a slider in the dene
that was well outside of the strike zone. It was
too wild and it had too much movement, and they
were like, hm, So that was the first one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They watched everything right, I want I want you to know, like.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And then it happened again and they said there was
another time as the first pitch and it was early
and it was wild and it was it had too
much action.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, that's because people can bet on the first pitch
of the game where it's the strike or a ball,
so they're feeling like he's really intentionally trying to miss
right the pitch.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's what they're alleging, which to me is really hard.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
To prove because the ball where go ahead, because this
is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But I just think it's really that, like that is
too hard to prove. It's the same thing when you're
doing these prop bets and you're talking about how many
three pointers right, I'm just saying, like, Okay, today I'm
averaging eleven, but tonight I had eight. Maybe people were
in my face, maybe I didn't feel comfortable. Lad, I
(07:41):
stepped up, like you come up with everything to make
this thing work.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Here's where I want to go.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And I'm not even I'm not even like kidding myself
saying pro sports is going to back away from gambling
because oh my god, look at what's gonna happen. The
money's there, the chest has been opened. They're not putting
the toothpaste back in.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The two two. Okay, it ain't happening. It's out.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
They want all that money, bring it on, and if
they got to sacrifice players along the way, they'll just
do that. Your banned, your ban, but the money train
keeps rolling. We'll ban everybody if we have to but
we're going to take the money from the gamblers and
the gambling houses. Here's my solution, and it's just a partial.
(08:28):
Stop the prop bets. Stop the bets where players can
really impact whether you win or lose on these things
and they can be conscious of it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Take those away.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
If you just want to do the point spreads and
do the games, you know what I mean, where you
gotta do a lot more. But the idea, especially in basketball,
I'm gonna go there, and even the baseball. You just
saw the first pitch a ball or strike is fifty
to fifty right, and then you're gonna come down on
the guy and say the pitch was two outside or
too wild?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You must be you know, got gambling? Did you bet
on it?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Like what are you asking?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So I think if the sports and the Union should
come together and say we can't tempt it. They're tempting everybody.
You can't have it all in the ballpark. When I
go to National Park in DC, the betting place is
like attached, you know, like it's right there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Literally, I walk.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Out of the I don't know if it's BETMGM or what.
I can't remember, but you walk out of it and
you walk right into the stadium like it's right next
to it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So you can't invite everybody to be a part of this.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's all on the television, it's all on billboards and
all over the arena in the stadium. And then tell
a player not you, everybody else not you, and I
get it, you're playing. You shouldn't be betting on the sport.
We saw what happened to Pete Rose his career. But
I think the prop bets have to go. That's where
the league can actually do so something to not put
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players in harms.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Way I unfortunately, I have to agree the prop bets
is what makes this difficult. And I'm gonna elaborate on
a couple of reasons why. Number one, you just talked
about how tempting it is. It's pervasive, it's everywhere. And
if you are a younger person, I'm in a hybrid age. I'm,
you know, younger than you, but I'm older than the
Shades and the Alex and the Martins, So I'm older
than I'm older than you. So I remember when it
(10:23):
felt taboo, right, it still felt weird, like ooh, the gambling,
don't talk about it. It's like this hidden. We all
know what's happening, but it's happening over there, and we
do new that. But now it's everywhere, and it looks
fun and it looks tempting. And they got all the
young rappers and all the Prize Pick commercials, and they
got all the rappers and influencers. I was listening to
Joe Buden podcast driving in and they have a whole
segment where they stopped the show to go it's Top
(10:44):
Prize Pigs and they do a whole prize mix thing.
And my point is, it sounds fun, it sounds alluring,
it's tempting. It's easier than ever. I don't have to
call us bookie, I don't have to go to Atlantic
City or Vegas. It's on your phone. It's easy. It's colorful,
and it looks like a game, looks like a video games.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's real. It's real easy. This is not sleazy going on.
That's what I know exactly. Whisper in the back, Hello,
sitting there heater with the family. When I used to
bet in the old days. Hello, Goldilocks, This is Papa Bear.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know what I'm saying, right, I want two cups
of porridge onto this, you're like, you know what I mean,
this isn't that dude, You're sitting at dinner looking your
wife for kids in the in the face like, yeah,
that's crazy. And you can put seven bucks here, twelve
bucks here, twenty bucks there. So that's why I think
there's some issues. Uh and and and then Rob, I
was looking at some of these numbers, and Martin just
sent me.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
An the thinking I was right, betam GM is at Now.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's what it is. I couldn't remember exactly, but I
know it was close.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So look at look at listen to these numbers, Rob,
do you want to know how much sports betting around
the thirty three marketers that actually reported made just about
generating before we get touched revenue just generated one hundred
and forty nine billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I believe. And you know what the other thing is,
which is crazy, is.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Sixty five popularly and doesn't bet, I know, which means
you know what I mean, like that smaller going on?
You know that. I like that, Like you think everybody's betting. No,
there's plenty of people who've never bet and won't bet.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So of that one hundred and forty nine billion, they
brought in a fourteen billion in revenue, so that's what
they made, and this number represents the growth. Twenty twenty
five is on pace to shatter to twenty twenty four mark,
which was huge.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
What's crazy is I saw this too. New York has
surpassed Vegas.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did you know that?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
You look at it as far as revenue of gambling,
New York is the king, and you know why not Vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Then you know why because we already know there's like
thirty million people in the metro area or whatever you go.
You just said, and if I just have to go
on my phone and go, yo, the Knicks are gonna
I'll take that. I'll take this, and Jalen Brunsts is
gonna do that. That's why. And it's just a sheer
number game. So that's why I don't think we both
agree it's not going anywhere in prop bets is the
only option because that's the one that's alluring, that's the one,
(13:03):
and that's the one that you can control as a
player and as a league or investigators. I can't fully
get you on because you do shoot a lot of threes,
you know, you guys do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
That was a wild pitch and hey, wild pitches happen.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Pat Hey, okay, he threw twenty two attempts this quarterback.
I mean they were down, they needed to throw some attempts.
It gets too difficult. Only reason why I think this
would become more of a thing is if if you
remember Malcolm Gladwell's book The Tipping Point, If there's a
tipping point where too many nineteen to twenty five year
olds are ruining their lives and like going to jail
(13:37):
and just craziness having is a tipping point, then I
think maybe there's some legislation that government tries to pass
or something, and or if am I raise it to
twenty one or right, and I don't think it'll ever
go away.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But it's like we said the exact same time. It's
like the prohibitionion, all right, right, well, all right, it
ain't going nowhere but here. Last point too. Unless it's
a megastar, you name it the Tiger Woods of of an.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Era, it's just a matter it's.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Time because if it he's being middling player, like guys
you barely know John Tay Porter, Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But there's a lot of stars that have have that
been involved in the past. I mean, we just talked
about one of the greatest baseball players ruined his whole
legacy in life over gambling. He couldn't stop and caught him.
But I think that's why I played a role. It
was so taboo because you immediately thought him right. And
the more they make it cool and fun, he got
Kevin Hart doing commercials. And but here's the other thing too,
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when we mentioned this yesterday a little bit, and I
do believe it. If you're a player and you don't
want to try to giving your family money or whatever,
you can't tell me, dude, I'm only gonna shoot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm gonna be under. It's an eight feet three point attempt.
That's so easy to control. That's easy.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
It's like, hey, load up, cause don't ask me for
no bread. But I'm telling you, feeling good, you know, cold,
I'm feeling I'm feeling good. And now I feeling shoulder
hurting a little exactly. I doubt I got the long
ball tonight, you know, whatever it is. And at boom,
I mean, that's that's so harder to take. It is,
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can sports leagues get ahead of all these gambling scandals?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Is it time to do away with prop bets all together?
That's what I'm proposing. You agree with, Yeah, I mean
that's that's the only funny way you can do it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You can't do the games or whatever, spread games all
that's anywhere. We'll continue that conversation next with you. It
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coming up, Ned COLLETTI, that's my guy. Yeah, Natal, you
can form a Dodgers GM. We'll talk some baseball. I
thought there was some snubs in the All Star voting.
Byron Buxton should have been the starting center fielder, not
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Hobby Bias for the Tigers. I'm not he got a
great back. No, come on, really the starting center fielder.
I'm not asking that about that. I think Hobby was
even caught off guard agent called him. He's like me,
starting set of fielder in for the American League.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So we'll talk with Ned COLLETTI can't wait for that
nicest guy in the world. Oh yeah, and shop talk,
so we'll get to that as well. But Kelvin Lebron James,
you want to like this kind of layer?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, so what's.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Happening in all these kind of stories that are NBA
rumors that you know, will he be traded and other
team's interested in him and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So of course he opted in in that fifty two
and a half million dollar player option. And then you
go back to the conversations his boy, his agent Rich
Paul saying, look, Lebron is you know, he appreciate what
the Lakers doing, but Lebron is gonna win now. He's
trying to win. And then you go to a Dave
mcmanhimu of ESPN said, he said that he's here in
the Dallas. I'm told that they would only be interested
in Lebron in a buyout situation. And then it starts
(19:06):
to conversations Lebron wants to you know, do you trade
for him? Do you do the Lakers buy him out
and let him go somewhere, And so that's where these
rumors starts to become.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, he's trying to win out.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
We said this yesterday, even with signing DeAndre Ayton for
the couple of years that didn't move that. I said,
they went from a seven seed to a six and
a half seed. You know what I mean, This isn't
a huge as they're comprised right now. That wasn't a
big jump, big leap. So the conversations becomes, well what
do the Lakers do? And east moment that goes by,
it's kind of a and they're not talking, and you know,
(19:38):
you start to play it around in your head a
little bit. Would they let Lebron go? Would they pay
him out? And look, I believe this new ownership, Rob,
they're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
They're not. They're not.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They're not gonna pay fifty two point six million whatever
buyout for Lebron to go away. I think they value
still what he brings from a notoriety standpoint. I think
they're still The hard thing about Lebron is he's still
an all NBA guy, Rob, he still an all NBA guys,
So it's just letting him go for nothing, or letting
him go for a trade for a couple of guys
who aren't that good. It becomes difficult. He has made
(20:08):
it a very hard thing to balance because he's still
better than ninety five percent of the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
In question his impact. But go ahead, and that's fair.
I'm not even mad at that impact. Winning.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
When you look up and a guy nightly is getting
your twenty five, eight and eight, Well, who the heck
is replacing that? But on the flip side, these teams realize, Rob,
this is an era where they got to be deep,
they have to be young, they have to have a
bunch of players for this, ain't.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
It And it's the first He's not it right, And
we saw it in the playoffs where everybody was banking
on who wouldn't take Lebron and Luca.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And guess what, Minnesota, simmer Mia, we ain't taking it exactly.
I think he's at the first time in his life
where he has to look in the mirror and it's
an unreal thing. Since he's probably twelve years old, you're
not the best. Other teams will pass on you for
the first time. I say, now, we're good. We're gonna
run with our youth movement or roun the squad we
have now. And I think that's an unusual situation now,
(21:04):
and I don't think many teams will bite or you know,
take that bait like he probably thought they would.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I'm with you, and I'm just gonna break it down.
You know, I'm into the clothes and shopping and all that.
I love to go.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yes, you are, and Lebron used to be sax Fifth Avenue.
I know, ifans or but because of all the stuff
you talked about, now he's ross, he's going to ross
and teams as you say, I get the numbers and
all that, but you're not No, I'm not training for him.
He makes too much money. I have to give up something.
(21:38):
I'm not interested in that. And I'm not interested in
just having Lebron for a year or two to sell tickets.
I'm not interested in that either. And I think that
the Lakers A aren't going to give them a buyout
and give them money a going away present so that
some other team can have them.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So I don't see. I don't see where this could happen.
Where he's going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And I understand that Dallas MAVERI sure you want to
take the veterans minimum, come on up five million dollars, right,
and you just want to play a.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Well, we'll do that. Anybody would do that, right, But
he's not worth fifty three million to a team or
giving up players to have them and have to pay
him fifty three million.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Do you see what I'm saying? There's no and this
is one of the all time great players. He's forty
one plus.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I think if you're the Lakers, if he were to
have a farewell season, like let's say, for whatever reason
in the next month or two, it comes out, say hey,
just one of everybody notice to be and this is
my last season. I want that in the Laker uniform.
I want that to be. I don't want to I
don't want to buy him out so he can go
have that for the New York Knicks, the reunited with
the Calves, or you know, with the Warriors, so he
(22:46):
can finally have one year where he plays with Steph.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, if you're gonna have this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I want that farewell just like they did with Cat
Kareem and he was sitting there in a chair and
ever everybody's giving him rocking chairs around different cities and
having fun. I want that in a Laker uniform. I
want that to be what we talked about. I want
that to be a part of you know, a part
of our thing. So if this happened to have been
that last season, now, bro, we're gonna have to have
that last season here. But too many teams right now
in the NBA realize seven years straight different champion, and
(23:16):
I'm sure many feel like we got a shot. I mean,
in the West alone, you probably have legitimately five to
six teams that feel like, why why not US Rockets?
Why not repeating if you're the thunder Minnesota makes a move,
they feel like, hey, we can be in this thing, like.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We're right now. And they've been on the cusp Minnesota, yep.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And the Nuggets, we already know they won a championship
and now they've bolstered a team, got the pieces that
they had lost after they won the championship, bench help
some shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, they're looking like, hey man, the chance the current champs,
we took the seven games and we just got better exactly.
So there's a bunch of teams and then you got
a handful of teams in the East who probably feel
the same way. Hey man, we got a shot to
at least get to the finals. Then we don't beat
everybody in the West, but we got a chance to
get there. So point being this is there. I'm not
a heavy kneed base for him right now. And also
he's not even thirty eight year old version of him.
(24:06):
You say, all right, I'm taking a flyer two three
more years of this. I'm taking a flyer on that,
you know, but to forty one soon to be forty
one year old version. And does Father Time, who was
undefeated now he is Father Time on a bid on
the rose for Lebron. Father Time's been getting beat down
by Lebron, but he's still undefeated. And at some point
I don't want to make that trade. And this is
the year you finally snap a hamstring and you're out
(24:28):
forty games. And now I'm sitting here.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
But it is interesting that people just this was a
couple of years ago, different story, a completely different story.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But dude, you cannot do it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I don't think that under any circumstance you would be interested.
And and all the reporting that I've heard is that
no one's interested, well at Lebron as a player at
fifty three million dollars like that, like that, that's what
they're not for.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And we know now with the second apron, a lot
of teams are looking at all this. This isn't you
know five six years ago he said, all right, screw it,
let's do it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Who cares the second apron? And like I say, everybody's
you need two aprons to cook, don't.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, I'm living unless you got one in the front.
One of the back is that it is that what
you're putting in work in the kitchen. If you need
to ap two aprons right under, yeah, that might be
me tomorrow. People still put aprons on. I can remember
my mom with an apron cooking. My mother when she's
in town, she put ap But my mother is kind
of Martha Stewarty, like she has all the proper cooking.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
She's really into that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So even when she's my mom is a type who
will tell like, I'm gonna order this apron and leave
it in the such and such closet for me. Rob,
nobody's putting on an apron to press three minutes on
the micro that's the problem. And you get you spotted
them something. I'm just asking that you've seen those pictures
of his refrigerator.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Your wife to be, she doesn't cook.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I'm saying, Look, I'm saying, no one puts on an
apron wait three minutes into the microwave.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That's what you coming to me. We all got the
joke on you, Rob. Why is fiance taking up in here.
I'm just asking. I'm asking you too. Does your wife
put an apron on when she cooks? No, okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'm trying to think she might have a seasonal like
a Christmas one on my It depends on what's being prepared. Yeah,
like she might have Thanksgiving jointed fire mistaken, but just
ninety eight percent of the cooking. No, ninety eight percent
of cooking. She got a daughter, you know, pulling on
her leg.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Another one is answer AIRB and because your homework.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm sitting here with you right now, so when I
come in, I'm like, hey, baby, she's looking at me
like you when you were dating.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
She might have put on an apron and you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And Bedman just a apron. But why you get all
excited about that? Why you get all excited about her aprons?
And aprons? Only this what I'll be talking about. I'm
just saying that's what I be talking all right, All
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox will throw out
the number two. Uh but but but nobody Christmas. Bet
that'd be a aprons for my Christmas for me, Bet
(26:53):
not be apron for my wife roblem.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know something it's gonna be a backless apron.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I'm just.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Look out a backless.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Either that you're gonna be trying your wife, Aaron, Aaron
Alex's boot.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Boo as your girlfriend cook Alex, Oh she cooks great? Okay,
what she wouldn't want a backless apron? You know what?
She probably will listen. No, no, no, let me tell
you who don't need a backless apron. Look at shade
like on all Apple aprons backless.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Let me tell you who don't need that Alex in
his lean they they have. There will be no cooking.
There's already barely cooking.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Yes, all right, I'm just because the next one y'all
gonna do is something bacon in the oven.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
And I don't line just haven't cooked anything yet. Here
you go, Yeah, something bacon, all right? All right? Eight
seven seven I'm not even call you about. That's all talk.
That's a bund of the I love that talk.
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Speaker 1 (31:05):
Uh. Well, so we know we talked a little bit
about Lebron earlier and how the MAP said they'd only
be interested in him if he would get a buy
out from the Lakers, so on and so forth. Well,
there's the more conversations we talked about Lakers star and
then Cooper flag Avery Johnson, former coach for the Really
Good Coach Too for the Dallas Mavericks, was on CBS
(31:26):
Sports and he had a conversation about Cooper Flagg and this.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Is what he said.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Quote, man, give me Cooper flag. This is over Luca Doncons.
He said he would take him in a heartbeat, give
me Cooper flag. Cooper flag on this team?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
What? Yeah, give me Cooper flag.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
What the Mavericks? What team is he coaching? Now? I'm
just asking you. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
He might be cool his son's team or something like
that of your little peev league or something rec league
or something.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I just I just wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, he said he'd take Cooper flag easily in a
heartbeat over Luca Doncons a Luca doncics.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that they said, you have to talk about the
team they have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
If healthy, you got the Hall of Famers and Kyrie
Klay Thompson a d It's gonna be really exciting the Mavericks.
Their future is bright. So do you agree with my
man who used to call David robertson the ad morale?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Do you agree with him?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And I think this is a combination of two things.
I think we're gonna agree on at least the.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Cooper flag hype, which is ridiculous. Okay, okay, can we stop.
He's eighteen, he played one college season. He wasn't the
greatest college player who ever played. Yeah, Like what, like, seriously,
they're making it like he's better than those two. We
just Bill Russell, We can go on and on and on.
(32:42):
Pistol Pete Maverage averaged forty four points with no threes, Like,
can we stop? Seriously the Cooper flag stuff. Everything that
happened yesterday is not the greatest thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Guys, stop it. Cut it out.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
And number two, I get it. People wanted to poke
Luca in the stomach and have him do the Billsbury dope.
Boycott him exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
what he wanted to do. But you can't, you can't
discount it was all NBA five five of his first
(33:19):
six years. It's like, seriously, really, the guys twenty five
years old, really, you think he's Cooper Flag is gonna
you know how hard it is to be all NBA.
You think he's gonna be all NBA the next twenty years?
Come on, man, Really, that's what was so shocking about Luca.
(33:40):
But but this, obviously, I mean, Avery's just gone off
the deep end because you can you can tout Cooper
Flag without going overboard and without having.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
To disrespect other people.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And to me, that's in Luca's case because what he
was able to accomplish so early in his career was amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Everybody knows that, dude. You all right.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
First of all, Avery Johnson, listen, this is the issue,
and this is one of the times we talk about
this when team, when guys still want to be connected
with the team. Everie Johnson still wants to be able
to come to the Mavericks game, get the floor, scenes,
gets the box, get the free tickets, get the hoodie,
you know, get to be invited to the golf outings
and have his family come to the family day. Because
(34:25):
there's no way that you're saying, I'm taking Cooper Flag,
who's done nothing in the NBA yet, who looks like
a fine player, who we expect good things from, but
you know, also we expect him to grow into being
really good.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Luca came right off.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
The bat, great all NBA multiple times, drag the team
to the five times, drag the team to the finals.
And is Luca perfect? No, do we want him to
get in better shape up? Yes, we wanted to maybe
stop pounding the ball a little bit. Yes, but he's
already done his story. He actually could retire next year
and be in the Hall of Fame. You're saying, Cooper
Flagg is gonna do that immediately? Sounds crazy and it
(35:02):
sounds like what we get back to conversations when people
do this. Magic Johnson talking about deangel l Russell and
Linzo Ball gonna take my records down, and there's gonna
be up in their banners, and I get fanfare and
being excited, But come on, Magic, come on, Avery, Cooper
flag is gonna be nice. I have high expectations for him.
But what Luca was able to do in this league immediately,
(35:23):
immediately was really unprecedented for a guy again who was
his team wasn't crazy loaded. I mean he didn't walk
in like Magic walk right into Kareem and some other
players there, Jamal Wilkes and some other good players.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So you kind of like walked into a great situation.
But he was great. Oh but Magic, come on, its
magic is mad? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Magic and Bird you know my theory, they're starting to
get pushed down these rankings a little too far. Now
hold on, now, these two dudes were insane and y'all
need to go refresh hit the refresh button and refresh
your memory and what Magic and Bird were able to do.
But yeah, so just to say that you would take
it again, he's doing the Homer thing. He's connected to
the team, the organization had a lot of success. There
is coach completely get it. But the expectations because there's
(36:04):
really not many guys period in the NBA. Do you
know how many guys haven't been all NBA more than twice,
two or three times that week? Harold has great all
time greats Martin? Why are you ever are shaking your head?
Alex can get Martin for me, please, because just counterpoint. Sure,
(36:25):
maybe it's true that every johnson Is wants to get
the tickets and where and wave the rally flag and
all of that, But the Mavericks to say they would
rather have Luka Doncices than rather have Cooper flag than
Luka Doncics.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
They already said they'd rather have Anthony Davis than Luca Dons.
But that's the right decision. But they already made that.
Do you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They were just saying they didn't know they were getting
Cooper flag when they made that decision, and they were
so like if you ask them. If you ask them,
they said, I'd rather have Anthony Davis than Luca. Know
the list, the list might be long of the people
they'd rather have than Luca Dodgyes's and let me die.
That's not only is that as your thought, that is
in fact, as far as what happened and what also
(37:11):
happened has been my issue. You traded him for a
dude who's older. If he were this were Anthony Edwards,
I would okay, I get it. Maybe you just felt
like he has a higher ceiling or something or sga
okay round the same age.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You traded him when someone's older, who's often injured and
guess who he did Game one like you couldn't Shakespeare
couldn't write this. I agree that it was a bad trade.
I'm not arguing that fact by any stress, right.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I think it was so bad. It's not a bad trade.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
If you don't want to pay a guy who you
don't believe, I think that's the three hundred and fifty
zillion and he won't work.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Out with you. He was over what like the stuff
that would scare you.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
We talked about it before the Marcus Cousins didn't get
his two oh six in Seattle, he wouldn't fall in
line or be a team guy, you know what I mean,
And you're afraid to give the.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Guy the machinations.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It was so bad that people ignored all of what
Rob just said because it happened in the middle of
the night, and it happened for what seemed to be such.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
A small The only reason it can't be and I said,
it was never about his plug about basketball. It can't
be because of the five All pros right in the
finals with this. It can't be basketball. We know that,
And that's why I go back to Martin.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So the team does the ad move, Luca moves and
they and for the clearly non basketball reasons, or at
least none on the court, because obviously maybe for them
it's he's not doing what we asked for him when
it comes to being in basketball shape. But going back
to the Cooper Flag again, Polo van Carroll, we don't
know if Cooper Flag is gonna better than him and Polo,
(38:41):
who was really nice but hasn't done anything yet you
get what I'm saying, Like he might another couple of years.
There have been plenty of guys who really good rookie.
That takes time, and they haven't done anything yet. We're
just now seeing Carl D. Towns, who was the number
one pick, get deep into the playoffs and make a
little noise. And even then we're still we were a
little bit underwhelmed. Let's not even talk about some of
the other and picks. Ben Simmons, who's all World. Have
(39:04):
you seen him lately? I don't even know if he's
in the NBA markel folks. So my only point is
where Avery is going crazy is saying, oh, man, give
me Cooper flag all day when he might just be
a What if he's just a really good player who
ends up being a five time All Star?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That ain't, Luca, is what I'm saying. And you've just
brought up this.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
It's a different sport, but it tells you about the
All Pro and All NBA. Tom Brady played twenty see
whatever plus is? Yeah, how many times was he All Quarterback?
All Pro quarterback? We'll go five or six?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Three?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's how hard it is. And Luca did it five
other first six? Do you know what I'm saying? Like
Tom Brady three times? Crazy and over twenty years and
it ain't that easy. So the idea that you think
Cooper Flag's gonna show up and make all NBA might
do it twice in his whole career. Right, I'm just
saying right like like what Luca accomplished is in credible
(40:01):
for a short period of time.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
The guy's twenty five with a thirty five year old body.
That's the issue.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
This is the one time I want to argue with you,
but I ain't gonna lie. When I see Luca walk
Sometimes the only thing that gives me hope is you
know I'm shut up in advance.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm watching Last Dance again for the fifty fifth time.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Shut up, Okay, I need to call your wife and
she needs to set up a VCR with something that.
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Or wait, wait, I got problems. You just said VC you,
I mean you, you with you? Somebody go backwards in time.
You passed, Blu Ray everything you didn't pass. We need
to get you went back to VC. I want you
to get a VCR. And why that's why when your
phone rings, it literally odd couple, it ain't me and you,
it's the actual show because I know you're going home
(40:43):
watching it. You know, Matt locking on it on v
VHS VCRs and all that Perry Mason from there.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Perry but one of them lawyers, no doubt. All right,
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Ali, she must be a listener. Yeah, very nice. Did
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He does, actually, what are you? Ain't you in there too?
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get some of the price.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Well, I just told somebody that story because somebody's like, oh,
go to this fancy restaurant, said, let me tell you
about our fancy restaurant.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
We went to a fancy and the brother said, may
go on the other side. The food's better over there.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
We thought our little one hundred and fifty was you
put down the allotment and then you work your way
towards that.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Now that was a starting point.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
It was like they were basically saying, it's gonna be
three fifty yepes each each, three fifty each.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
We said, we're working on a company. Uh, I haven't
done mine yet? What you still haven't done it? You're rich?
Are you cannot join that? Are you kidding me? I'm
joining that. You can't know?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You know what my expensions were done? On the flight
back home? Oh ya, I saw you.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yes. I don't play around, no doubt about it. Keep
trying and they locked me out.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I gotta figure out all right, let let's go here. Yeah,
some uh we talked about yesterday. Folks like to gamble. Yes,
And by folks, I don't just mean the average Joe, No,
I'm talking about the players as well, and different sports.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So we got another thing, right, Major League Baseball. Lewis
Ortiz is a picture for the Cleveland Guardians.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Correct, and he's under investigation by Major League Baseball after
betting integrity firm they had flagged a pair of pitches. Now,
this is what makes this very very interesting, and it
goes back to a conversation that we had about Malie Beasy,
which I'm sure we'll get to here again. So essentially
they were alerted about a couple of days when he
was pitching, and this was back in June and the
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sportsbook operations I see three sixty they sent that alert
to the MLB. It was called a non disciplinary paid lead,
which is he is on now. This alert because came
because of a couple of innings back of June fifteenth,
rob against the Mariners and June twenty seventh against the Cardinals.
Now at the bottom of the second inning against the Mariners,
top of the third. Essentially, he threw a first pitch
(06:39):
that day, Dean. It was a slider in the dene
that was well outside of the strike zone. It was
too wild and it had too much movement, and they
were like, hm, So that was the first one.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
They watched everything right, I want I want you to know, like.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
And then it happened again and they said there was
another time as the first pitch and it was early
and it was wild and it was it had too
much action.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, that's because people can bet on the first pitch
of the game where it's the strike or a ball,
so they're feeling like he's really intentionally trying to miss
right the pitch.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
That's what they're alleging, which to me is really hard.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
To prove because the ball where go ahead, because this
is where it gets interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But I just think it's really that, like that is
too hard to prove. It's the same thing when you're
doing these prop bets and you're talking about how many
three pointers right, I'm just saying, like, Okay, today I'm
averaging eleven, but tonight I had eight. Maybe people were
in my face, maybe I didn't feel comfortable. Lad, I
(07:41):
stepped up, like you come up with everything to make
this thing work.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Here's where I want to go.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
And I'm not even I'm not even like kidding myself
saying pro sports is going to back away from gambling
because oh my god, look at what's gonna happen. The
money's there, the chest has been opened. They're not putting
the toothpaste back in.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
The two two. Okay, it ain't happening. It's out.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
They want all that money, bring it on, and if
they got to sacrifice players along the way, they'll just
do that. Your banned, your ban, but the money train
keeps rolling. We'll ban everybody if we have to but
we're going to take the money from the gamblers and
the gambling houses. Here's my solution, and it's just a partial.
(08:28):
Stop the prop bets. Stop the bets where players can
really impact whether you win or lose on these things
and they can be conscious of it.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Take those away.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
If you just want to do the point spreads and
do the games, you know what I mean, where you
gotta do a lot more. But the idea, especially in basketball,
I'm gonna go there, and even the baseball. You just
saw the first pitch a ball or strike is fifty
to fifty right, and then you're gonna come down on
the guy and say the pitch was two outside or
too wild?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
You must be you know, got gambling? Did you bet
on it?
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Like what are you asking?
Speaker 4 (09:05):
So I think if the sports and the Union should
come together and say we can't tempt it. They're tempting everybody.
You can't have it all in the ballpark. When I
go to National Park in DC, the betting place is
like attached, you know, like it's right there.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Literally, I walk.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Out of the I don't know if it's BETMGM or what.
I can't remember, but you walk out of it and
you walk right into the stadium like it's right next
to it.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
So you can't invite everybody to be a part of this.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's all on the television, it's all on billboards and
all over the arena in the stadium. And then tell
a player not you, everybody else not you, and I
get it, you're playing. You shouldn't be betting on the sport.
We saw what happened to Pete Rose his career. But
I think the prop bets have to go. That's where
the league can actually do so something to not put
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players in harms.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
Way I unfortunately, I have to agree the prop bets
is what makes this difficult. And I'm gonna elaborate on
a couple of reasons why. Number one, you just talked
about how tempting it is. It's pervasive, it's everywhere. And
if you are a younger person, I'm in a hybrid age. I'm,
you know, younger than you, but I'm older than the
Shades and the Alex and the Martins, So I'm older
than I'm older than you. So I remember when it
(10:23):
felt taboo, right, it still felt weird, like ooh, the gambling,
don't talk about it. It's like this hidden. We all
know what's happening, but it's happening over there, and we
do new that. But now it's everywhere, and it looks
fun and it looks tempting. And they got all the
young rappers and all the Prize Pick commercials, and they
got all the rappers and influencers. I was listening to
Joe Buden podcast driving in and they have a whole
segment where they stopped the show to go it's Top
(10:44):
Prize Pigs and they do a whole prize mix thing.
And my point is, it sounds fun, it sounds alluring,
it's tempting. It's easier than ever. I don't have to
call us bookie, I don't have to go to Atlantic
City or Vegas. It's on your phone. It's easy. It's colorful,
and it looks like a game, looks like a video games.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
It's real. It's real easy. This is not sleazy going on.
That's what I know exactly. Whisper in the back, Hello,
sitting there heater with the family. When I used to
bet in the old days. Hello, Goldilocks, This is Papa Bear.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
You know what I'm saying, right, I want two cups
of porridge onto this, you're like, you know what I mean,
this isn't that dude, You're sitting at dinner looking your
wife for kids in the in the face like, yeah,
that's crazy. And you can put seven bucks here, twelve
bucks here, twenty bucks there. So that's why I think
there's some issues. Uh and and and then Rob, I
was looking at some of these numbers, and Martin just
sent me.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
An the thinking I was right, betam GM is at Now.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
That's what it is. I couldn't remember exactly, but I
know it was close.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
So look at look at listen to these numbers, Rob,
do you want to know how much sports betting around
the thirty three marketers that actually reported made just about
generating before we get touched revenue just generated one hundred
and forty nine billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I believe. And you know what the other thing is,
which is crazy, is.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Sixty five popularly and doesn't bet, I know, which means
you know what I mean, like that smaller going on?
You know that. I like that, Like you think everybody's betting. No,
there's plenty of people who've never bet and won't bet.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
So of that one hundred and forty nine billion, they
brought in a fourteen billion in revenue, so that's what
they made, and this number represents the growth. Twenty twenty
five is on pace to shatter to twenty twenty four mark,
which was huge.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
What's crazy is I saw this too. New York has
surpassed Vegas.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Did you know that?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
You look at it as far as revenue of gambling,
New York is the king, and you know why not Vegas?
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Then you know why because we already know there's like
thirty million people in the metro area or whatever you go.
You just said, and if I just have to go
on my phone and go, yo, the Knicks are gonna
I'll take that. I'll take this, and Jalen Brunsts is
gonna do that. That's why. And it's just a sheer
number game. So that's why I don't think we both
agree it's not going anywhere in prop bets is the
only option because that's the one that's alluring, that's the one,
(13:03):
and that's the one that you can control as a
player and as a league or investigators. I can't fully
get you on because you do shoot a lot of threes,
you know, you guys do.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
That was a wild pitch and hey, wild pitches happen.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Pat Hey, okay, he threw twenty two attempts this quarterback.
I mean they were down, they needed to throw some attempts.
It gets too difficult. Only reason why I think this
would become more of a thing is if if you
remember Malcolm Gladwell's book The Tipping Point, If there's a
tipping point where too many nineteen to twenty five year
olds are ruining their lives and like going to jail
(13:37):
and just craziness having is a tipping point, then I
think maybe there's some legislation that government tries to pass
or something, and or if am I raise it to
twenty one or right, and I don't think it'll ever
go away.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
We know that.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But it's like we said the exact same time. It's
like the prohibitionion, all right, right, well, all right, it
ain't going nowhere but here. Last point too. Unless it's
a megastar, you name it the Tiger Woods of of an.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Era, it's just a matter it's.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Time because if it he's being middling player, like guys
you barely know John Tay Porter, Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
But there's a lot of stars that have have that
been involved in the past. I mean, we just talked
about one of the greatest baseball players ruined his whole
legacy in life over gambling. He couldn't stop and caught him.
But I think that's why I played a role. It
was so taboo because you immediately thought him right. And
the more they make it cool and fun, he got
Kevin Hart doing commercials. And but here's the other thing too,
(14:31):
when we mentioned this yesterday a little bit, and I
do believe it. If you're a player and you don't
want to try to giving your family money or whatever,
you can't tell me, dude, I'm only gonna shoot.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
I'm gonna be under. It's an eight feet three point attempt.
That's so easy to control. That's easy.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
It's like, hey, load up, cause don't ask me for
no bread. But I'm telling you, feeling good, you know, cold,
I'm feeling I'm feeling good. And now I feeling shoulder
hurting a little exactly. I doubt I got the long
ball tonight, you know, whatever it is. And at boom,
I mean, that's that's so harder to take. It is,
all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
(15:16):
seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine. How
can sports leagues get ahead of all these gambling scandals?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Is it time to do away with prop bets all together?
That's what I'm proposing. You agree with, Yeah, I mean
that's that's the only funny way you can do it.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
You can't do the games or whatever, spread games all
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coming up, Ned COLLETTI, that's my guy. Yeah, Natal, you
can form a Dodgers GM. We'll talk some baseball. I
thought there was some snubs in the All Star voting.
Byron Buxton should have been the starting center fielder, not
(18:02):
Hobby Bias for the Tigers. I'm not he got a
great back. No, come on, really the starting center fielder.
I'm not asking that about that. I think Hobby was
even caught off guard agent called him. He's like me,
starting set of fielder in for the American League.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
So we'll talk with Ned COLLETTI can't wait for that
nicest guy in the world. Oh yeah, and shop talk,
so we'll get to that as well. But Kelvin Lebron James,
you want to like this kind of layer?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, so what's.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Happening in all these kind of stories that are NBA
rumors that you know, will he be traded and other
team's interested in him and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So of course he opted in in that fifty two
and a half million dollar player option. And then you
go back to the conversations his boy, his agent Rich
Paul saying, look, Lebron is you know, he appreciate what
the Lakers doing, but Lebron is gonna win now. He's
trying to win. And then you go to a Dave
mcmanhimu of ESPN said, he said that he's here in
the Dallas. I'm told that they would only be interested
in Lebron in a buyout situation. And then it starts
(19:06):
to conversations Lebron wants to you know, do you trade
for him? Do you do the Lakers buy him out
and let him go somewhere, And so that's where these
rumors starts to become.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
You know, he's trying to win out.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
We said this yesterday, even with signing DeAndre Ayton for
the couple of years that didn't move that. I said,
they went from a seven seed to a six and
a half seed. You know what I mean, This isn't
a huge as they're comprised right now. That wasn't a
big jump, big leap. So the conversations becomes, well what
do the Lakers do? And east moment that goes by,
it's kind of a and they're not talking, and you know,
(19:38):
you start to play it around in your head a
little bit. Would they let Lebron go? Would they pay
him out? And look, I believe this new ownership, Rob,
they're not doing that.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
They're not. They're not.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
They're not gonna pay fifty two point six million whatever
buyout for Lebron to go away. I think they value
still what he brings from a notoriety standpoint. I think
they're still The hard thing about Lebron is he's still
an all NBA guy, Rob, he still an all NBA guys,
So it's just letting him go for nothing, or letting
him go for a trade for a couple of guys
who aren't that good. It becomes difficult. He has made
(20:08):
it a very hard thing to balance because he's still
better than ninety five percent of the guys.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
In question his impact. But go ahead, and that's fair.
I'm not even mad at that impact. Winning.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
When you look up and a guy nightly is getting
your twenty five, eight and eight, Well, who the heck
is replacing that? But on the flip side, these teams realize, Rob,
this is an era where they got to be deep,
they have to be young, they have to have a
bunch of players for this, ain't.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
It And it's the first He's not it right, And
we saw it in the playoffs where everybody was banking
on who wouldn't take Lebron and Luca.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
And guess what, Minnesota, simmer Mia, we ain't taking it exactly.
I think he's at the first time in his life
where he has to look in the mirror and it's
an unreal thing. Since he's probably twelve years old, you're
not the best. Other teams will pass on you for
the first time. I say, now, we're good. We're gonna
run with our youth movement or roun the squad we
have now. And I think that's an unusual situation now,
(21:04):
and I don't think many teams will bite or you know,
take that bait like he probably thought they would.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I'm with you, and I'm just gonna break it down.
You know, I'm into the clothes and shopping and all that.
I love to go.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Yes, you are, and Lebron used to be sax Fifth Avenue.
I know, ifans or but because of all the stuff
you talked about, now he's ross, he's going to ross
and teams as you say, I get the numbers and
all that, but you're not No, I'm not training for him.
He makes too much money. I have to give up something.
(21:38):
I'm not interested in that. And I'm not interested in
just having Lebron for a year or two to sell tickets.
I'm not interested in that either. And I think that
the Lakers A aren't going to give them a buyout
and give them money a going away present so that
some other team can have them.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
So I don't see. I don't see where this could happen.
Where he's going anywhere.
Speaker 4 (22:00):
And I understand that Dallas MAVERI sure you want to
take the veterans minimum, come on up five million dollars, right,
and you just want to play a.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Well, we'll do that. Anybody would do that, right, But
he's not worth fifty three million to a team or
giving up players to have them and have to pay
him fifty three million.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Do you see what I'm saying? There's no and this
is one of the all time great players. He's forty
one plus.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I think if you're the Lakers, if he were to
have a farewell season, like let's say, for whatever reason
in the next month or two, it comes out, say hey,
just one of everybody notice to be and this is
my last season. I want that in the Laker uniform.
I want that to be. I don't want to I
don't want to buy him out so he can go
have that for the New York Knicks, the reunited with
the Calves, or you know, with the Warriors, so he
(22:46):
can finally have one year where he plays with Steph.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, if you're gonna have this is it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
I want that farewell just like they did with Cat
Kareem and he was sitting there in a chair and
ever everybody's giving him rocking chairs around different cities and
having fun. I want that in a Laker uniform. I
want that to be what we talked about. I want
that to be a part of you know, a part
of our thing. So if this happened to have been
that last season, now, bro, we're gonna have to have
that last season here. But too many teams right now
in the NBA realize seven years straight different champion, and
(23:16):
I'm sure many feel like we got a shot. I mean,
in the West alone, you probably have legitimately five to
six teams that feel like, why why not US Rockets?
Why not repeating if you're the thunder Minnesota makes a move,
they feel like, hey, we can be in this thing, like.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
We're right now. And they've been on the cusp Minnesota, yep.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And the Nuggets, we already know they won a championship
and now they've bolstered a team, got the pieces that
they had lost after they won the championship, bench help
some shooting.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Yeah, they're looking like, hey man, the chance the current champs,
we took the seven games and we just got better exactly.
So there's a bunch of teams and then you got
a handful of teams in the East who probably feel
the same way. Hey man, we got a shot to
at least get to the finals. Then we don't beat
everybody in the West, but we got a chance to
get there. So point being this is there. I'm not
a heavy kneed base for him right now. And also
he's not even thirty eight year old version of him.
(24:06):
You say, all right, I'm taking a flyer two three
more years of this. I'm taking a flyer on that,
you know, but to forty one soon to be forty
one year old version. And does Father Time, who was
undefeated now he is Father Time on a bid on
the rose for Lebron. Father Time's been getting beat down
by Lebron, but he's still undefeated. And at some point
I don't want to make that trade. And this is
the year you finally snap a hamstring and you're out
(24:28):
forty games. And now I'm sitting here.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
But it is interesting that people just this was a
couple of years ago, different story, a completely different story.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But dude, you cannot do it.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I don't think that under any circumstance you would be interested.
And and all the reporting that I've heard is that
no one's interested, well at Lebron as a player at
fifty three million dollars like that, like that, that's what
they're not for.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And we know now with the second apron, a lot
of teams are looking at all this. This isn't you
know five six years ago he said, all right, screw it,
let's do it.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Whatever.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Who cares the second apron? And like I say, everybody's
you need two aprons to cook, don't.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
No, I'm living unless you got one in the front.
One of the back is that it is that what
you're putting in work in the kitchen. If you need
to ap two aprons right under, yeah, that might be
me tomorrow. People still put aprons on. I can remember
my mom with an apron cooking. My mother when she's
in town, she put ap But my mother is kind
of Martha Stewarty, like she has all the proper cooking.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
She's really into that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So even when she's my mom is a type who
will tell like, I'm gonna order this apron and leave
it in the such and such closet for me. Rob,
nobody's putting on an apron to press three minutes on
the micro that's the problem. And you get you spotted
them something. I'm just asking that you've seen those pictures
of his refrigerator.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Your wife to be, she doesn't cook.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
I'm saying, Look, I'm saying, no one puts on an
apron wait three minutes into the microwave.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
That's what you coming to me. We all got the
joke on you, Rob. Why is fiance taking up in here.
I'm just asking. I'm asking you too. Does your wife
put an apron on when she cooks? No, okay, I don't.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'm trying to think she might have a seasonal like
a Christmas one on my It depends on what's being prepared. Yeah,
like she might have Thanksgiving jointed fire mistaken, but just
ninety eight percent of the cooking. No, ninety eight percent
of cooking. She got a daughter, you know, pulling on
her leg.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Another one is answer AIRB and because your homework.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
I'm sitting here with you right now, so when I
come in, I'm like, hey, baby, she's looking at me
like you when you were dating.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
She might have put on an apron and you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (26:32):
And Bedman just a apron. But why you get all
excited about that? Why you get all excited about her aprons?
And aprons? Only this what I'll be talking about. I'm
just saying that's what I be talking all right, All
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox will throw out
the number two. Uh but but but nobody Christmas. Bet
that'd be a aprons for my Christmas for me, Bet
(26:53):
not be apron for my wife roblem.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know something it's gonna be a backless apron.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
I'm just.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Look out a backless.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
Either that you're gonna be trying your wife, Aaron, Aaron
Alex's boot.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Boo as your girlfriend cook Alex, Oh she cooks great? Okay,
what she wouldn't want a backless apron? You know what?
She probably will listen. No, no, no, let me tell
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Speaker 1 (31:05):
Uh. Well, so we know we talked a little bit
about Lebron earlier and how the MAP said they'd only
be interested in him if he would get a buy
out from the Lakers, so on and so forth. Well,
there's the more conversations we talked about Lakers star and
then Cooper flag Avery Johnson, former coach for the Really
Good Coach Too for the Dallas Mavericks, was on CBS
(31:26):
Sports and he had a conversation about Cooper Flagg and this.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Is what he said.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Quote, man, give me Cooper flag. This is over Luca Doncons.
He said he would take him in a heartbeat, give
me Cooper flag. Cooper flag on this team?
Speaker 3 (31:39):
What? Yeah, give me Cooper flag.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
What the Mavericks? What team is he coaching? Now? I'm
just asking you. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
He might be cool his son's team or something like
that of your little peev league or something rec league
or something.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I just I just wanted to make sure.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah, he said he'd take Cooper flag easily in a
heartbeat over Luca Doncons a Luca doncics.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
And that they said, you have to talk about the
team they have.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
If healthy, you got the Hall of Famers and Kyrie
Klay Thompson a d It's gonna be really exciting the Mavericks.
Their future is bright. So do you agree with my
man who used to call David robertson the ad morale?
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Do you agree with him?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (32:17):
And I think this is a combination of two things.
I think we're gonna agree on at least the.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Cooper flag hype, which is ridiculous. Okay, okay, can we stop.
He's eighteen, he played one college season. He wasn't the
greatest college player who ever played. Yeah, Like what, like, seriously,
they're making it like he's better than those two. We
just Bill Russell, We can go on and on and on.
(32:42):
Pistol Pete Maverage averaged forty four points with no threes, Like,
can we stop? Seriously the Cooper flag stuff. Everything that
happened yesterday is not the greatest thing that ever happened.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Guys, stop it. Cut it out.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
And number two, I get it. People wanted to poke
Luca in the stomach and have him do the Billsbury dope.
Boycott him exactly, you know what I'm saying, Like that's
what he wanted to do. But you can't, you can't
discount it was all NBA five five of his first
(33:19):
six years. It's like, seriously, really, the guys twenty five
years old, really, you think he's Cooper Flag is gonna
you know how hard it is to be all NBA.
You think he's gonna be all NBA the next twenty years?
Come on, man, Really, that's what was so shocking about Luca.
(33:40):
But but this, obviously, I mean, Avery's just gone off
the deep end because you can you can tout Cooper
Flag without going overboard and without having.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
To disrespect other people.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
And to me, that's in Luca's case because what he
was able to accomplish so early in his career was amazing.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Everybody knows that, dude. You all right.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
First of all, Avery Johnson, listen, this is the issue,
and this is one of the times we talk about
this when team, when guys still want to be connected
with the team. Everie Johnson still wants to be able
to come to the Mavericks game, get the floor, scenes,
gets the box, get the free tickets, get the hoodie,
you know, get to be invited to the golf outings
and have his family come to the family day. Because
(34:25):
there's no way that you're saying, I'm taking Cooper Flag,
who's done nothing in the NBA yet, who looks like
a fine player, who we expect good things from, but
you know, also we expect him to grow into being
really good.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Luca came right off.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
The bat, great all NBA multiple times, drag the team
to the five times, drag the team to the finals.
And is Luca perfect? No, do we want him to
get in better shape up? Yes, we wanted to maybe
stop pounding the ball a little bit. Yes, but he's
already done his story. He actually could retire next year
and be in the Hall of Fame. You're saying, Cooper
Flagg is gonna do that immediately? Sounds crazy and it
(35:02):
sounds like what we get back to conversations when people
do this. Magic Johnson talking about deangel l Russell and
Linzo Ball gonna take my records down, and there's gonna
be up in their banners, and I get fanfare and
being excited, But come on, Magic, come on, Avery, Cooper
flag is gonna be nice. I have high expectations for him.
But what Luca was able to do in this league immediately,
(35:23):
immediately was really unprecedented for a guy again who was
his team wasn't crazy loaded. I mean he didn't walk
in like Magic walk right into Kareem and some other
players there, Jamal Wilkes and some other good players.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
So you kind of like walked into a great situation.
But he was great. Oh but Magic, come on, its
magic is mad? Right?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Magic and Bird you know my theory, they're starting to
get pushed down these rankings a little too far. Now
hold on, now, these two dudes were insane and y'all
need to go refresh hit the refresh button and refresh
your memory and what Magic and Bird were able to do.
But yeah, so just to say that you would take
it again, he's doing the Homer thing. He's connected to
the team, the organization had a lot of success. There
is coach completely get it. But the expectations because there's
(36:04):
really not many guys period in the NBA. Do you
know how many guys haven't been all NBA more than twice,
two or three times that week? Harold has great all
time greats Martin? Why are you ever are shaking your head?
Alex can get Martin for me, please, because just counterpoint. Sure,
(36:25):
maybe it's true that every johnson Is wants to get
the tickets and where and wave the rally flag and
all of that, But the Mavericks to say they would
rather have Luka Doncices than rather have Cooper flag than
Luka Doncics.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
They already said they'd rather have Anthony Davis than Luca Dons.
But that's the right decision. But they already made that.
Do you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
They were just saying they didn't know they were getting
Cooper flag when they made that decision, and they were
so like if you ask them. If you ask them,
they said, I'd rather have Anthony Davis than Luca. Know
the list, the list might be long of the people
they'd rather have than Luca Dodgyes's and let me die.
That's not only is that as your thought, that is
in fact, as far as what happened and what also
(37:11):
happened has been my issue. You traded him for a
dude who's older. If he were this were Anthony Edwards,
I would okay, I get it. Maybe you just felt
like he has a higher ceiling or something or sga
okay round the same age.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
You traded him when someone's older, who's often injured and
guess who he did Game one like you couldn't Shakespeare
couldn't write this. I agree that it was a bad trade.
I'm not arguing that fact by any stress, right.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
I think it was so bad. It's not a bad trade.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
If you don't want to pay a guy who you
don't believe, I think that's the three hundred and fifty
zillion and he won't work.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Out with you. He was over what like the stuff
that would scare you.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
We talked about it before the Marcus Cousins didn't get
his two oh six in Seattle, he wouldn't fall in
line or be a team guy, you know what I mean,
And you're afraid to give the.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Guy the machinations.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
It was so bad that people ignored all of what
Rob just said because it happened in the middle of
the night, and it happened for what seemed to be such.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
A small The only reason it can't be and I said,
it was never about his plug about basketball. It can't
be because of the five All pros right in the
finals with this. It can't be basketball. We know that,
And that's why I go back to Martin.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
So the team does the ad move, Luca moves and
they and for the clearly non basketball reasons, or at
least none on the court, because obviously maybe for them
it's he's not doing what we asked for him when
it comes to being in basketball shape. But going back
to the Cooper Flag again, Polo van Carroll, we don't
know if Cooper Flag is gonna better than him and Polo,
(38:41):
who was really nice but hasn't done anything yet you
get what I'm saying, Like he might another couple of years.
There have been plenty of guys who really good rookie.
That takes time, and they haven't done anything yet. We're
just now seeing Carl D. Towns, who was the number
one pick, get deep into the playoffs and make a
little noise. And even then we're still we were a
little bit underwhelmed. Let's not even talk about some of
the other and picks. Ben Simmons, who's all World. Have
(39:04):
you seen him lately? I don't even know if he's
in the NBA markel folks. So my only point is
where Avery is going crazy is saying, oh, man, give
me Cooper flag all day when he might just be
a What if he's just a really good player who
ends up being a five time All Star?
Speaker 3 (39:19):
That ain't, Luca, is what I'm saying. And you've just
brought up this.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
It's a different sport, but it tells you about the
All Pro and All NBA. Tom Brady played twenty see
whatever plus is? Yeah, how many times was he All Quarterback?
All Pro quarterback? We'll go five or six?
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Three?
Speaker 4 (39:38):
That's how hard it is. And Luca did it five
other first six? Do you know what I'm saying? Like
Tom Brady three times? Crazy and over twenty years and
it ain't that easy. So the idea that you think
Cooper Flag's gonna show up and make all NBA might
do it twice in his whole career. Right, I'm just
saying right like like what Luca accomplished is in credible
(40:01):
for a short period of time.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
The guy's twenty five with a thirty five year old body.
That's the issue.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
This is the one time I want to argue with you,
but I ain't gonna lie. When I see Luca walk
Sometimes the only thing that gives me hope is you
know I'm shut up in advance.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
I'm watching Last Dance again for the fifty fifth time.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Shut up, Okay, I need to call your wife and
she needs to set up a VCR with something that.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Or wait, wait, I got problems. You just said VC you,
I mean you, you with you? Somebody go backwards in time.
You passed, Blu Ray everything you didn't pass. We need
to get you went back to VC. I want you
to get a VCR. And why that's why when your
phone rings, it literally odd couple, it ain't me and you,
it's the actual show because I know you're going home
(40:43):
watching it. You know, Matt locking on it on v
VHS VCRs and all that Perry Mason from there.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Perry but one of them lawyers, no doubt. All right,
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